What’s Next for Battlefield America? Israel’s High-Tech Military Tactics Point the Way
John & Nisha Whitehead
“I did not know Israel was capturing or recording my face. [But Israel has] been watching us for years from the sky with their drones. They have been watching us gardening and going to schools and kissing our wives. I feel like I have been watched for so long.”
Mosab Abu Toha, Palestinian poet
If you want a glimpse of the next stage of America’s transformation into a police state, look no further than how Israel—a long-time recipient of hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid from the U.S.—uses its high-tech military tactics, surveillance and weaponry to advance its authoritarian agenda.
Military checkpoints. Wall-to-wall mass surveillance. Predictive policing. Aerial surveillance that tracks your movements wherever you go and whatever you do. AI-powered facial recognition and biometric programs carried out with the knowledge or consent of those targeted by it. Cyber-intelligence. Detention centers. Brutal interrogation tactics. Weaponized drones. Combat robots.
We’ve already seen many of these military tactics and technologies deployed on American soil and used against the populace, especially along the border regions, a testament to the heavy influence Israel’s military-industrial complex has had on U.S. policing.
Indeed, Israel has become one of the largest developers and exporters of military weapons and technologies of oppression worldwide.
Journalist Antony Loewenstein has warned that Pegasus, one of Israel’s most invasive pieces of spyware, which allows any government or military intelligence or police department to spy on someone’s phone and get all the information from that phone, has become a favorite tool of oppressive regimes around the world. The FBI and NYPD have also been recipients of the surveillance technology which promises to turn any “target’s smartphone into an intelligence gold mine.”
Yet it’s not just military weapons that Israel is exporting. They’re also helping to transform local police agencies into extensions of the military.
According to The Intercept, thousands of American law enforcement officers frequently travel for training to Israel, “one of the few countries where policing and militarism are even more deeply intertwined than they are here,” as part of an ongoing exchange program that largely flies under the radar of public scrutiny.
A 2018 investigative report concluded that imported military techniques by way of these exchange programs that allow police to study in Israel have changed American policing for the worse. “Upon their return, U.S. law enforcement delegates implement practices learned from Israel’s use of invasive surveillance, blatant racial profiling, and repressive force against dissent,” the report states. “Rather than promoting security for all, these programs facilitate an exchange of methods in state violence and control that endanger us all.”
“At the very least,” notes journalist Matthew Petti, “visits to Israel have helped American police justify more snooping on citizens and stricter secrecy. Critics also assert that Israeli training encourages excessive force.”
Petti documents how the NYPD set up a permanent liaison office in Israel in the wake of 9/11, eventually implementing “one of the first post-9/11 counterterrorism programs that explicitly followed the Israeli model. In 2002, the NYPD tasked a secret ‘Demographics Unit’ with spying on Muslim-American communities. Dedicated ‘mosque crawlers’ infiltrated local Muslim congregations and attempted to bait worshippers with talk of violent revolution.”
That was merely the start of American police forces being trained in martial law by foreign nations under the guise of national security theater. It has all been downhill from there.
As Alex Vitale, a sociology professor who has studied the rise of global policing, explains, “The focus of this training is on riot suppression, counterinsurgency, and counterterrorism—all of which are essentially irrelevant or should be irrelevant to the vast majority of police departments. They shouldn’t be suppressing protest, they shouldn’t be engaging in counterinsurgency, and almost none of them face any real threat from terrorism.”
This ongoing transformation of the American homeland into a techno-battlefield tracks unnervingly with the dystopian cinematic visions of Steven Spielberg’s Minority Report and Neill Blomkamp’s Elysium, both of which are set 30 years from now, in the year 2054.
In Minority Report, police agencies harvest intelligence from widespread surveillance, behavior prediction technologies, data mining, precognitive technology, and neighborhood and family snitch programs in order to capture would-be criminals before they can do any damage.
While Blomkamp’s Elysium acts as a vehicle to raise concerns about immigration, access to healthcare, worker’s rights, and socioeconomic stratification, what was most striking was its eerie depiction of how the government will employ technologies such as drones, tasers and biometric scanners to track, target and control the populace, especially dissidents.
With Israel in the driver’s seat and Minority Report and Elysium on the horizon, it’s not so far-fetched to imagine how the American police state will use these emerging technologies to lock down the populace, root out dissidents, and ostensibly establish an “open-air prison” with disconcerting similarities to Israel’s technological occupation of present-day Palestine.
For those who insist that such things are celluloid fantasies with no connection to the present, we offer the following as a warning of the totalitarian future at our doorsteps.
Facial Recognition
Fiction: One of the most jarring scenes in Elysium occurs towards the beginning of the film, when the protagonist Max Da Costa waits to board a bus on his way to work. While standing in line, Max is approached by two large robotic police officers, who quickly scan Max’s biometrics, cross-check his data against government files, and identify him as a former convict in need of close inspection. They demand to search his bag, a request which Max resists, insisting that there is nothing for them to see. The robotic cops respond by manhandling Max, throwing him to the ground, and breaking his arm with a police baton. After determining that Max poses no threat, they leave him on the ground and continue their patrol. Likewise, in Minority Report, police use holographic data screens, city-wide surveillance cameras, dimensional maps and database feeds to monitor the movements of its citizens and preemptively target suspects for interrogation and containment.
Fact: We now find ourselves in the unenviable position of being monitored, managed, corralled and controlled by technologies that answer to government and corporate rulers. This is exactly how Palestinian poet and New Yorker contributor Mosab Abu Toha found himself, within minutes of passing through an Israeli military checkpoint in Gaza with his wife and children in tow, asked to step out line, only to be blindfolded, handcuffed, interrogated, then imprisoned in an Israeli detention center for two days, beaten and further interrogated. Toha was finally released in what Israeli soldiers chalked up to a “mistake,” yet there was no mistaking the AI-powered facial recognition technology that was used to pull him out of line, identify him, and label him (erroneously) as a person of interest.
Drones
Fiction: In another Elysium scene, Max is hunted by four drones while attempting to elude the authorities. The drones, equipped with x-ray cameras, biometric readers, scanners and weapons, are able to scan whole neighborhoods, identify individuals from a distance—even through buildings, report their findings back to police handlers, pursue a suspect, and target them with tasers and an array of lethal weapons.
Fact: Drones, some deceptively small and yet powerful enough to capture the facial expressions of people hundreds of feet below them, have ushered in a new age of surveillance. Not even those indoors, in the privacy of their homes, will be safe from these aerial spies, which can be equipped with technology capable of peering through walls. In addition to their surveillance capabilities, drones can also be equipped with automatic weapons, grenade launchers, tear gas, and tasers.
Biometric scanners and national IDs
Fiction: Throughout Elysium, citizens are identified, sorted and dealt with by way of various scanning devices that read their biometrics—irises, DNA, etc.—as well as their national ID numbers, imprinted by a laser into their skin. In this way, citizens are tracked, counted, and classified. Likewise, in Minority Report, tiny sensory-guided spider robots converge on a suspected would-be criminal, scan his biometric data and feed it into a central government database. The end result is that there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide to escape the government’s all-seeing eyes.
Fact: Given the vast troves of data that various world governments, including Israel and the U.S., is collecting on its citizens and non-citizens alike, we are not far from a future where there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. In fact, between the facial recognition technology being handed out to law enforcement, license plate readers being installed on police cruisers, local police creating DNA databases by extracting DNA from non-criminals, including the victims of crimes, and police collecting more and more biometric data such as iris scans, we are approaching the end of anonymity. It won’t be long before police officers will be able to pull up a full biography on any given person instantaneously, including their family and medical history, bank accounts, and personal peccadilloes. It’s already moving in that direction in more authoritarian regimes.
Predictive Policing
Fiction: In Minority Report, John Anderton, Chief of the Department of Pre-Crime, finds himself identified as the next would-be criminal and targeted for preemptive measures by the very technology that he relies on for his predictive policing. Consequently, Anderton finds himself not only attempting to prove his innocence but forced to take drastic measures in order to avoid capture in a surveillance state that uses biometric data and sophisticated computer networks to track its citizens.
Fact: Precrime, which aims to prevent crimes before they happen, has justified the use of widespread surveillance, behavior prediction technologies, data mining, precognitive technology, and snitch programs. As political science professor Anwar Mhajne documents, Israel has used all of these tools in its military engagements with Palestine: deploying AI surveillance and predictive policing systems in Palestinian territories; utilizing facial recognition technology to monitor and regulate the movement of Palestinians; subjecting Palestinians to facial recognition scans at checkpoints, with a color-coded mechanism to dictate who should be allowed to proceed, subjected to further questioning, or detained.
Making the Leap from Fiction to Reality
When Aldous Huxley wrote Brave New World in 1931, he was convinced that there was “still plenty of time” before his dystopian vision became a nightmare reality. It wasn’t long, however, before he realized that his prophecies were coming true far sooner than he had imagined.
Israel’s military influence on the United States, its advances in technological weaponry, and its rigid demand for compliance are pushing us towards a world in chains.
Through its oppressive use of surveillance technology, Israel has erected the world’s first open-air prison, and in the process, has made itself a model for the United States.
What we cannot afford to overlook, however, is the extent to which the American Police State is taking its cues from Israel.
As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, we may not be an occupied territory, but that does not make the electronic concentration camp being erected around us any less of a prison.
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Telling the same pathetic propaganda bullshit over and over again does not turn it into a bit of truth… a lie stays a lie, however brainless useless and worthless fuckheads like you and your scum friends will never get it!! You fucking morons are infesting the country and must be removed by any means necessary!!!
I thought all the members of staff in major U.K supermarket shops now wearing camera was for our own protection and not surveillance…
Ideological battlefield America: Google tweaks rules for office guest speakers after row over controversial Indian historian Rajiv Malhotra
Perhaps the last 24 hours in Cuba might be worth a mention – even if you have to be almost as old as Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders to remember the 1962 crisis…
Russia repeat its provocations against the free and civilised world.
4 Russian military ship hereof 2 nuclear subs armed with Tsar bombs ready to fire against any threat to the Red Palace, and any threat against all their red Commies infiltrated and hidden under innocent American beds, arriving in Havana to buy banned Fidel cigars and threaten America in a new Cuba crisis. https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/6/14/the-russian-military-in-cuba-a-crisis-then-and-maybe
But Russia forget Americans are Spartans. This summer is going to be hot folks.
I would guess that it’s a mystery to some why many why (so-called) ‘highbrows’ of the modern era have a tendency to root for Hamas:
Oxford University exams cancelled after pro-Palestinian protests
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/13/oxford-university-exams-cancelled-pro-palestinian-protests/
My guess would be that such people are actually too lowbrow to have made any connection between Hamas and BLM… completely obvious to anyone with any kind of religious inclination.
A contrast between the quality of the Oxbridge education of the ’80s and that of the modern day?
If you were capable of rational thought, it might occur to you that people aren’t supporting Hamas, they are opposing a colonialist apartheid state on that basis. Hamas have nothing to do with it. Of course they are repugnant, that is why they are the only thing low lives like you ever talk about.
Your proud support of racial supremacism tells any and al woth a brain precisely what you are.
Morally bankrupt, intellectually vapid scum.
British education began to rot from the inside as soon as Maggie T. noticed that it actually cost money.
Oxbridge didn’t emerge from that nightmare unscathed either, and the job was finished off for our youngest, most impressionable minds by Mrs. Thatcher’s “Incomprehensible Schools”…
That’s how it became possible for utter tripe to be submitted to media intended for intelligent adults.
NOBODY “roots for Hamas”. They were born out of unimaginable desperation.
Scrolling through comments below, for me, it recalls immages of North Korea rows of copied like girls crying for the death of their belovered Kim Jung-il. -on command- on the same rithme and in perfect harmony.
Most probably picturing and therefor expressing their own misary.
Writers are fun when the dwell on impressions of others.
(It takes one to know one)
Back to the redline: facial recognition
The way I see this: America as extension of Zion is ahead of China by about 50 times of camera’s per head.
For me it is like automated tomato harvesting: you’re plucked from society when you look ripe.
Pegasus or AI are the woodsticks the primates use in order to get their favorate snack.
Facial recognition does not rely on AI. Download open source facial recognition software and have a look.
The danger in spending as much time as I do reading convincing literature by actual intelligent humans, is that one begins to take it for granted that other people are doing the same, and that former propaganda victims are gradually learning to change their minds on many urgent issues.
Now and then I happen upon a standard mainstream media news outlet, but I am crushed to see little evidence that any uncomfortable truths are leaking through the plastic.
And plastic has a pretty long half-life…
I suppose what we are enduring right now is pretty much like death: One of the later stages of our final days – after denial and anger – is reportedly resignation. Is that really all we have left?
But for now, I’ll stick to my basic philosophy: I will devote all the energy I can muster to what is essential for me, and to what is possible for me,
Regarding the things that I cannot, with the best will in the world, change, well, they will just have to be ignored until a later date.
Wish you all the best in your commendable effort. Allow me to assist with a wise man’s advice:
“The first peace, which is most important, is that which is found within the souls of men when they realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us.” -BLACK ELK
What a load of bollocks. lol. New Agey touchy-feely rubbish.
Its because you as a materialist only see all falsehood and hypocrisy within the movements who claim they are spiritual: Meditation, mindfulness, organised religions, sects, hula hula, but they are not.
Black Elk is the real stuff. Seek the real stuff and it will come to you. here a little soul. https://youtu.be/pz4sNdMMKX8
Yesterday I even logged on to Insta to observe the legacy of the dead Vince Clarke wife. In my opinion, this woman had an insatiable death wish. Whether stomach cancer should have been her first choice of method of death is debatable. https://www.instagram.com/tracyhmartin/
You have to know that his LP Chorus grew to a not inconsiderable extent on my participation, Vince lived in Amsterdam at the time, but used Norbert Pape’s studio in Hamburg (Chateau du Pape), where I happened to be present. In principle, we worked out his principle of the Kraftwerkian synchronization of analog sound generators together, which he would keep for the rest of his life.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/real-estate/erasures-vince-clarke-sells-5-9m-brooklyn-townhouse/
Genius Vince has been promoting homo-propaganda for decades, suddenly he copies Tangerine Dream. The video hints at a desperate search. Is it the search for white men in English cities?
Genius Vince has been promoting homo-propaganda for decades, suddenly he copies Tangerine Dream. The video hints at a desperate search. Is it the search for white men in English cities? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeRnH2FLA4
Dont you have your clubs and secret societies where you can do your stuff?
??? Thank God no, not in the sightest! I’m not as knowledgeable about such “explicit things” as you are. (I don’t visit gay venues as a matter of principle.) That’s why it’s best to bring up your tendencies there, because you’re sure to find countless confidants and insiders. Best wishes!
I just like to party, drink a beer in town, and visit discos and bars.
Here I happen to frequently meet bars who tells me me they are only for gays.
So you have your LGBT organisations which are the same. Only for pink people. Normal people are OUT.
So what you tell me here is you know nothing.
PS: Secret society for those interested in music? What is this supposed to be? I’ve never heard of it either, a very strange invention or institution that you’re talking about as if you had an enormous amount of background knowledge about such things. Very strange, I must say. It is also completely unclear which “stuff” you mean that I should “do”.
https://thecradle.co/articles/has-israel-considered-a-loss-to-hezbollah
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/14/politics/biden-netanyahu-israel-iran-response/index.html
😅
Looks as if implosion for Israel not far away politically with the dual mess in Northern Israel as well as Gaza. They had no answer for Hezbollah last time and are clearly floundering now.
Just watching another episode of political debate.
Remember when you go to the polls, wherever you are, and whoever you vote for, is a bankers puppet and an enemy of the people.
is ra hell has the data base for all london train and tube networks like on the ritual 7 and 7 the ability to turn stuff off and onable
tip of the city of london wall street and the rise of hitler and the bolshevik revolutions
gladio daddio
you dig
Other than my former situation up until a year or two ago when all my comments went into pending (because of my only available ISP type available) I always assumed that their computer had a list of probable unacceptable words or phrases that were indicative of unacceptable statements that kicked the comment into pending for inspection by a human curator. Chief among them appeared to be anything associated with the Israeli government.
I can, to some degree, be sympathetic to curating, as there are always enemies of a controversial blog that hope to make its comment section unusable. It is difficult to delegate to a computer which comments are valid free speech and which are designed to make the comment section essentially unusable.
James Corbett used to do a weekly series called “Propaganda Watch.” After several years, though it may have been somewhat instructive to newbies on his site, he realized that it was not worth the effort, so he change the series to “Solutions Watch” which needs a lot more in-depth brain power to construct. I don’t read the Whitehead’s stuff anymore, not because I disagree with it, but rather I already know it so it is not a learning experience or worth the time. Maybe it is time for them to start their own Solutions Watch and I might start reading them again.
I think the opposite. Propaganda is ongoing and ever morphing in sophisticated ways. It was (and continues to be) a disappointment to me that Corbett stopped doing Propaganda Watch. “Solutions Watch” is – most often in my view – not worth watching; they end up being paeans to DYI-ers, “solutions” that may make you feel like one is doing something, but will never have the slightest effect on the PTB.
Drones are fine for overhead surveillance. Not much good in telling you what’s going on underground in tunnels.
When the IDF went into Gaza they found literally hundreds of kilometers of tunnels. Equivalent to a capital city’s metro system.
In Dante’s Inferno (a medieval view of the underworld), the underground / underworld was divided into 9 circles. Each circle reserved for the punishment of a particular category of sin. Circles being further divided into rings, dealing with subcategories of sins of a particular nature. Circle 7 dealt with sins of ‘violence’ and had 3 rings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)#Seventh_Circle_(Violence)
Since the word ‘hamas’ is synonymous in Hebrew with ‘violence’ and also with ‘wrong-doing’ aka ‘sin, where exactly should the sins of Hamas be best placed… in Circle 7’s ring 1 (violence against neighbour) or in ring 3 (inhuman violence)?…
At first glance, Ring 1 would seem more appropriate – ‘violence against one’s neighbour’. A desire to wipe out Israel, one’s physical neighbour. BUT this would be ignoring the wholly unnatural nature of Hamas’ violence on Oct. 7th+; its unspeakably inhuman acts (particularly against women). These would seem to place its sins firmly into ring 3. Hence the conundrum.
Perhaps some kind of a Venn diagram intersect of sorts? Or even a 4th ring combining features of rings 1 & 3.
The IDF have made little to no attempt to explore and destroy the Gaza tunnels. That is why they cannot win the war and insterad resort to murdering the civilian population of Gaza as “revenge” for October 7th instead.
They never “found literally hundreds of kilometers of tunnels”. They postulate that the tunnels are that size but they have no precise idea because the IDF have not gone into the tunnels in a concerted way.
I would expect such an avid cheerleader as yourself to at least have some idea what is actually happening but apprently you prefer to engage in infantile fantasies completely detached from reality. How could you possibly be so pathetic?
3-4 months ago, they were threatening to flood the tunnels with seawater. That quickly fizzled out when they remembered the hostages. Yet, they have managed to kill some hostages through direct gunfire, bombings, starvation, disease. Of these4, many will never be found as they have been flattened by hills of rubble, like Palestinians.
So let me get this straight. When the IDF went into Gaza they found Dante’s Inferno and therein found a clue to the truly supernatural (fantastical) events of Oct 7 which, though “unspeakable”, have found endless spokespeople to speak about them.
Truly phantasmagorical.
The word IS-RA-EL is a pending word. You are 100% clueless, as usual.
You continually insist there’s no conspiracy (when it’s obvious in all government, military, NGO and think tank publications, presentations and white papers) yet you blame the unwitting, powerless, nescient slaves for every evil and criminal action the controllers and privately owned governments take without the consent or knowledge of the slaves.
Duh! re the technology acknowledged in “Blue Thunder”.
THEY HAD THE TECHNOCRACY READY TO LAUCH IN 1930.
It seems certain words are triggers in WP. Although, WP is (or was 8 -10 yrs ago) programmable at the backend by site administrators who could create a whitelist and/or a list of banned words plus pending based on user names etc.
Yesterday, I was kicked into pending for three comments in a row. Each did contain links. I suspect WP or some other plug-in does not like certain links for either their content or the source website.
In fairness to Off G admin I was released from purgatory very quickly.
On the subject of tecnocracy, the North American ‘Technocracy Inc’.was very active in early 1930’s in US, along with US eugenics movement, whereas eugenics in Britain was a la mode at the end of 19th century.
The technocracy movement went out of fashion due to its links to eugenics at the end of WWII. As a result, it has sat on the back burner until recently for an attempted re-run.
Yeah. Exactly. There’s an army of cyber warriors writing polarizing “race” divide and conquer memes, to divert attention away from the central planners and privately owned government services corporations.
Technocracy was rejected in the 30’s by the population so the controllers orchestrated WWII instead. Which worked by convincing the slaves that their faux nation states are/were independent. The “wars” suck in everyone. I’m constantly surprised people are so naive.
Then the central planners implemented their technocracy incrementally, and it’s already a done deal. The internet is the digital panopticon.
There is obviously a whitelist that the good admin has not told us about, but because they use a plugin commenting system developed by a google drone, it randomly puts comments into “pending” to remind everyone that the internet is not yours.
Also, it automatically pends comments containing the J word because it was programmed by a dehumanised slave.
Didn’t pend you did it. Clearly some people think this site has an obligation to run its tongue around the open sewer they wanna stand ankle deep in as they angry wank about their latest peeves. And that won’t change, no matter how open Offg comments are.
And I know why you’re all kicking off about it now. Because you all talk. Don’t you.
Or perhaps you’re mostly the same person 😅 who even knows any more.
Anyway, have fun hating us. Sorry not sorry.
The only thing worth reading on this site are the comments. But not yours.
Try a different forum then
I said I like reading the comments here (other than your dismal authoritarian missives which I despise) so why would I do that?
Idk, I guess I hoped for your sake you had somewhere of more value to go to. Or is this how you refer to the places you value?
I guess you just really like the commenters. Which commenters in particular are your favourites btw?
Have you thought about asking them to go off and comment somewhere else, away from offg? You could you know. You’re welcome to. I don’t want anyone to feel they need to stay here if they don’t want to.
What keeps you here, I honestly really want to know. A2
Edwige stands out but there are many good ones, I am not immersed to the point where I know all their names.Seems like you are having a bad day. I hope that you are feeling better later.
The only person that needs to “go off somewhere else” is you.
So you have neither the wherewithal or ambition right now to change the arena, it seems. You just come here for the forum, despite how vile everything else is. Got it. (This forum is managed by me, btw, so I don’t know quite how your logic stacks up there, but maybe it’s not about making sense? Or are you under the impression this place would just run itself if I wasn’t here sticking my nose in? Bless your little cotton socks!)
Since, according to you, “The only thing worth reading on this site are the comments”, if I did leave, offg would still be run by the same people. So… according to you I’m certainly not the only person who needs to ‘go off somewhere else’.
As I say, maybe it’s not about making sense.
Since I’m having a ‘bad day’, which I’ll accept for the sake of this exchange, do you mind if we travel back in time and I ask you to quote me one ‘dismissive authoritarian missive’ of mine in the past 6 months? I’ll gladly clarify, retract or apologise if your point is reasonable. Quote multiple posts of mine, please do. That’s a genuine offer. Go on, embarrass me 🙂
You are aware my job is quite difficult yeah? And I’m actually quite good at it. I run this forum mostly by myself. And it keeps you coming back… I take pride in that.
Perhaps you’re having a bad day too. You certainly seem to be acting like a rude jerk. I do hope you feel better soon too.
You know, joking aside, I’m actually quite a nice, generous, fair guy with a good sense of humour, I think. I don’t believe for a second you’re threatened by my wit, intelligence or writing flare, so I really can’t figure out why you’re being quite so rude. Did we fall out in some former life? A2
PS. If you’d like to invite Edwige to comment somewhere else, please be my guest. The idea that you’re stuck in this vile place makes me feel just sick.
You misquoted me, it wasn’t “dismissive” it was “dismal”.
You kind of have a point, it isn’t what you say that is generally appalling, it is your decision to simultaneously juxtapose being a commenter with being a censor/moderator that is galling.
To me it is completely unethical, you should do one or the other, or one at one time and the other at another time.
Not that it is important at all in the greater scheme of things, but that is the galling thing, compunded by the fact that you are utterly oblivious (and frequently gloat and exalt in) what is to me unethical conduct
As far as an example to support my claim, I don’t know whether it was in the last six months or not but relatively recently you proudly boasted of censoring comments relating to the shape of the earth in a completely offhand way.
That is your right of course but it is equally my right to be appalled and to see you as an ignorant authoritarian know all who doesn’t know that much at all. Or at the very least knows a lot less than you think you know.
The pride you take in censorship is something I find very distasteful indeed.
My comments about the work on this site were also slightly unfair.
Firstly this website deserves eternal credit for being the best site on the internet during the pandemic. I will always be grateful for that.
Since then, the stuff on Ukraine was very solid, very respectable, but there has not been anything of real value on the topic during the entire 8 months of renewed Israel-Palestine conflict and that is disappointing.
All of the regular writers are very decent, lovely people but their work isn’t great, other than Kit and Catte, whose offerings are either rare or very short.
(Iain Davis is tremendous but rarely published here lately)
I actually love this site but when you go from being the absolute best and completely wonderful to being a lot less than that, people will understandably be somewhat disappointed and express their disaffection..
So you’ve got nothing concrete there. Ok. So why jump on my back? You think it’s easy moderating a site with bullshit wordpress plugins? It’s not.
This is is YOUR community, James Robertson. If you don’t want admin intervention, you start pulling people up. This community could run itself if there was a bit more courage in the comments to support Offg.
Offg is fucking rare, and you know it. It’s not owned by the cia or mossad, it’s a tiny little site based on the Uk that was at fhe centre of the resistance for the world’s biggest psyop in 2020.
Since then, everyone’s had trauma responses and has been dumping on offg ever since. It’s not good enough. Where’s the loyalty? Everyone here works damn hard just so smug cunts can insult us every day.
Screw that. This is your community. Take some damn pride in what you’re a part of, James Robertson. Thanks for listening, A2
“So you’ve got nothing concrete there.” No, you simply chose not to read what I wrote, just read the start and cherry-picked your empty point based on nothing at all. which is fine, but why respond at all?
I have no idea whom I am supposed to be “pulling up ” or for what?
I will try again just in case. Since you clearly just straiight out ignored what I said, this relates to your remarks regarding loyalty.
“Firstly this website deserves eternal credit for being the best site on the internet during the pandemic. I will always be grateful for that.
Since then, the stuff on Ukraine was very solid, very respectable, but there has not been anything of real value on the topic during the entire 8 months of renewed Israel-Palestine conflict and that is disappointing.
All of the regular writers are very decent, lovely people but their work isn’t great, other than Kit and Catte, whose offerings are either rare or very short.
(Iain Davis is tremendous but rarely published here lately)
I actually love this site but when you go from being the absolute best and completely wonderful to being a lot less than that, people will understandably be somewhat disappointed and express their disaffection.”
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That didn’t make sense at all!
I made the informed assumption that you (off-g staff) did not develop the commenting system but that it came from a dehumanised google drone.
My comment that was automatically pended because of the J word was only 2-3 lines, and it is in a previous article. There was nothing in the comment other than the J word that could conceivably have been a cause and there was no hate as normal people understand the word in the real world (it does not mean “dislike” or “reject” as teenagers think).
Of course the controllers of thought will continue redefining “hate speech” until you will be forced to shut down the comments altogether and censor yourself to impotence.
There have been countless and persistent complaints about the “pending” thing since 2020. I assure you if there was a forum that was not an obvious limited hangout ( such as the Daily Skeptic forum) we would be there because this here platfrom is no good for discussion- pending bollocks aside, people do not follow a comment thread as we cannot see what we have posted and if anyone replied.
Exactly, you admit it, this is the best you’ve got. You said it.
I won’t be glib and say you get what you pay for (this is an utterly free resource btw), but you do get out what you put in. This is your community.
You could take some pride in it. You could respect the fact that Offg has held out longer than all the others.
You could help steer this community, nurture it, render admin’s role here almost redundant by working with us, not constantly railing against us. We’re not your jailers or your teachers. We’re human beings just like you.
You could help protect our core values by calling out the bigots and trolls instead of giving them a free pass (and attacking admin instead). We wouldn’t need to flag any words, because admin wouldn’t be a skeleton team standing alone in a sea of animosity, we’d all be on the same team, the whole community.
We’d all pitch in and be aware of own agency and take responsibility for ourselves.
We wouldn’t always agree, we’d often disagree, but we’d do so with camaraderie and good grace, because we all knew that this place is something rare (you just admitted it, it is rare!)
Sadly, since 2020 there’s been very little loyalty to this site or respect for the staff in these comments. I’ve been called disgusting things while all the so-called fierce freedom fighters here stood mutely by. People have said disgusting things and been left alone, while I’ve been shredded because I dare venture a polite opinion.
As I say, it’s your community. You get out what you put in. If you can’t do anything but piss and moan about us, really, who the fuck here do you think should care?
Maybe it’s time we all grow the fuck up, folks. A2
I’ll call out bigots and trolls, but admin will not, they’ll call me a troll or accuse me of being the sockpuppet they swore they could call out definatively, a couple of years back . . go figure. Who’s calling who and whose mmory is shorter, lol, AI arse.
No OG, you have merely exposed your meagre self.
we will find you all in due course, frauds.
stop defending your nefarious conduct.
and why am I not alowed to vote against admin comment?? THERE IT IS.
maybe you can roll out mr “hamas did it” as your cheif editor again, ffs.
No one can stop anyone from voting. The votes are mostly rigged because of it. I just think it’s sad that your level of animosity is considered the norm around here.
Oh brave freedom fighters, perhaps you let the 77th Brigade win a long time ago.
“If you were all these things then you’d just attack me now, so some of you are still human”. The Thing, 1982.
Yet you are all attacking me. Or standing by. There we go.
you are lieing fuckers Sam, that’s the rub. See if you can get geo to influence otherwise ; ) hahahahahah
FRAUDS
Whatever mate
not sorry? you should really gove(sic) the non-apolgetics a bye Sam,
Four years on and them same glitches keep occurring OGadmins? what ye expect us to think of your selective pending, eh? especially the pending to oblivion for those posts that admin just doesn’t like? stfu Sam, ye are a liar, pants on fire.
How can you contextualise the tolerated trolls or stalker opmoc at the same time, e.g. Sophie? Why are they not pended into the ethernet?? do explain oh wise administrative ones ..
how stupid do you think we are (all 3 of us lol), as if there’s more than half a dozen of you jokers! “same person” hilarious remarks given obvious writing styles repeatedly shown here under a few nom de plums.
grow up. treating the “clientele” as fools shows the real fools, all 77 of them.
suck it up. We know. Cards are marked, nooses roped. reap as you sow, jokers.
: )
You’re not a real person though, you comment as other identities. You know I know this, and I know you know I know. This exchange, this charade, is entirely cynical but I’m guessing you think it’s doing some good. It comes across as killing time, like you’re stuck here. Maybe you’re stuck because this is the only comment forum worth coming back to. Perhaps you’re tasked with sucking the joy out if it. Or maybe you’re just angry and lost and can’t help projecting your own self hatred onto the things you love.
I don’t know. And I don’t care really. It’s all gone round too many times. All the best to you, whoever you are. We’ll do this again. A2
I KNOW you are a liar, I know you are a liar as Sophie called Tonyopmoc and his IP addresses out years ago.. did you forget that? So was Sophie lieing or are you? you know fine this is the same poster.
Hence I know you know that I am the same person/poster. So you are lieing through your teeth pretending to be some credible admin character. that’s despicable Sam. Are you the same cunt talking about goosegrass the other day or do you just take turns under the same e-name.
We could do with some truth here, but you’ll be incapable. SOPHIE DECLARED BACK IN 2021 THAT OG KNEW IP ADDRESSES, COULD DETERMINE WHERE POSTS CAME FROM; HERE YOU ARE LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH SAM, saying I am multiple posters. Utter bullshit, a damned fucking malicious LIE – that is you sam, oh dear, poor sylvia and todd, having enjoined this fraud.
That makes you a sick cunt lying fuck Sam. And you believe the clientele will roll with your admin deceits? A FUCKING LIAR. IS SAM admin.
This poor limited hangout, is just that. and will diminish as befits its sad purpose.
I only visit here as there are some interesting articles and some informative remarks, and “once upon a time” this site had credibility, even a purpose.
ADMIN have ruined all credibility, deleting at will, denying lies and willfully deceiving and slandering the commentators. Where is Sophie’s great IP identifier in the sky these days eh? I am allegedly, as per OG Admin and their tools (notably GeoMc, aka bungle) Ekologistika, or Dungroanin or whatever other names the anti-ad-hominen-super special-OG admins say I am, allegedly.
PATHETIC.
to have geo accuse me of being dungroanin said very much about your collective memory, ya fukwits. try harder next time.
YOU ARE LIARS. admit it and shut your shit show down (seems it is headed that way anyway once the 77 funds dry up.
(now, if I put this in bold and change my user name – admin will allow, maybe I should use one of their many names too, then it’ll get pinned to top LOL!!)
fuck off ya .gov scum.
I don’t like your constant fucking moaning, but each to their own. 😅 And how dare you suggest admin are paranoid with all your utterly paranoid accusations here. What a hypocritical person you must be. You clearly have anger issues, so deal with them or leave this site. And I’m not deleting you Sonny Jim, have no fear. This eloquent poetry of yours is staying right where it is.
OK, now you’re being weird, I get it now. LOL dude. You might not be a limited hangout but you just showed this place, and you, aren’t worth the fucking time and you’re nothing but a hypocrite. Go ahead and pend me but print that, dude. Jesus, what a fucking crock. Spread the word on this fake ass shit.
What’s fake. Tell me.
Don’t get too fit or you might start growing a tiny moustache too!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/getting-fit-could-turn-you-into-a-rightwing-jerk
Graun commenters still vile.
The few posts I made here on Off-G a few days ago all went into ‘pending’, automatically… including my note to the Admin. team about it! I think it’s some sort of glitch in the system causing it.
I literally have no idea why you went into pending. Maybe it’s retroactive karma because you’re being an asshole about it now.
Life really has these occasions.
Three days ago I got a strange noise in my car, Driving around with it in an hour I decided to make a mechanic look at it. Arriving at the mechanic workshop, entering the shop, getting a mechanic out to look at it, turning the car on, no noise. The mechanic drove the car around for 5 minutes, no noise.
Today no noise. The noise simply disappeared when entering the mechanic shop.
The same with doctors. You have some place where it hurt in several days. You visit a doctor, and the moment you want to demonstrate the place to the medic, its gone.
And there is the strange phenomena for us men about the 3-4 single socks in the closet where their counterparts simply just disappeared. No one knows where.
There is more between heaven and earth…………and so on.
Interesting you replied.
‘asshole’?
That ain’t English.
It’s not. You’re very correct. Did you like study English or something? 😯
I just find the USification of our language annoying.
What else annoys you? The constant trolling trying to undermine the comments section? How do you stand on that? Do you think offg is controlled? Do you think we censor? Do you think we’re actually Jews? Do you think I’m a circumsized intelligence cuck? Do you think the only worthwhile thing are the glorious commenters? Do share. What else annoys you?
As we get older and set in our ways I think we become more easily annoyed.
It goes with the ‘territory’.
Funny though, I think some of us also become more tolerant of Folks with unusual or strident views.
I can’t remember ever downvoting anyone. That’s what’s going through their heads, so who am I to judge?
My morning www routine is local weather, national headlines and then Off G. Thank goodness for Off G!
We know the Jewish lobby has a disproportionate amount of influence in the world, but I don’t regard them as THE enemy. It’s always about following the money isn’t it?
I wouldn’t worry about the Trolls. Most Folks can see through them. Let em vent.
Censoring blatantly sick comments is legitimate as far as I’m concerned.
I enjoy most of your writers and the commenters.
They are my kind of people.
Thoughtful, kind, curious and trying to make the world a better, fairer place.
As for the state of your ‘appendage’ Sam, that is entirely your business.
There’s no way I was gonna let any doctor butcher my son with that ridiculous tradition.
May I say, Johnny, with the greatest of respect, you could afford to be a little more thoughtful, kind and curious yourself.
Please be thoughtful about who you’re associating with when you make seemingly harmless quips. Admin gets quite enough stick as it is. I think some of these trolls that we needn’t worry about could do with some quips too. This will help keep things balanced BTL without the need for admin intervention.
Please be kind to this site and its staff. It provides you with an outlet you appreciate, and many others too, but we’re not the Great Pyramids of Giza. We’re not some eternal monolith in alt. media, we’re a small outfit and we have feelings! This is your community, so please be mindful of sharing the responsibility of keeping things nice here.
Please also be curious about why so-called ‘trolls’ want to undermine confidence in our comments section so frequently. What possible function could that serve? It’s like reviews on Amazon: you look at the product but it’s the reviews underneath which ultimately inform your decision as a consumer. Our comments sections holds a lot of power to influence. Therefore, be curious about why people criticise our motives here and throw shade. Challenge these people, ask them to justify their views. Help make this forum a self-sustaining organism, without the need for outside intervention. That’s what everyone wants, ultimately, but they lack the coordination to do it.
Thanks, A2
Your probably right Sam.
My only excuse; It’s an Aussie thing, sarcasm, when faced with obvious ignorance and haughtiness.
We inherited it from our Irish convict ancestors.
I stand admonished.
Stand proud, Johnny. This is your community. I’ve been here for a long time, and I’m not playing around here. Offg needs a community who aren’t afraid to champion what it stands for, what it has achieved. Next time someone accuses offg of being a limited hangout, don’t just stand by saying nothing like all the other ‘freedom fighters’ criticising offg for not doing enough to help them. Be fucking proactive, Johnny 🙂 Challenge these trolls to justify their opinion. This is your community. No one wants admin intervention, and this community could run itself with just a few more people like you. Thanks for listening. A2
I understand your point of view, but I don’t think that you are thinking things through.
All that happens when someone challenges someone on something like that is they will put you under the same umbrella. So, they will respond “So you are part of the limited hangout too” etc.
It doesn’t achieve anything.
You are clearly proud of the site and in many ways, justifiably so, it might be best to just let that criticism wash over you and not even worry about it .
In “conspiracy world” everyone who deoesn’t agree with the person on a certain topic might catch those type of labels. I don’t give it much credence at all in general.
I completely agree, I absolutely cringed when I read that. But please, leave Admin2 alone Johhny. It is having a bad day as the hilarious response you received underlines!
You little creep. Answer my damn comment or shut it 😅
There is no need to call people names, especially when I did respond to your comment. WTF is wrong with you?
I so agree with you. I am always so exasperated when non-Americans use Americanisms in their speech/writing.
Some years ago, my eldest niece (now 35) used the word ‘bad’ to me, when the word she should have used was ‘mistake’ (you’ll no doubt be aware that, for some strange reason, Americans use the word ‘bad’ for the latter). When I chastised her over her word usage, she said “Oh, sorry, we watch too much U.S. TV…”.
You keep saying that, I think it’s bullshit. Every one of my comments, no matter if I say one word, goes to pending and stays there for hours. And you have no idea why? Does it happen to everyone? And if not, why does it happen to me? I have to think I’ve been targeted/marked for some reason. I like participating in commenting here and am pretty well in consonance with the sentiments expressed, but all of my comments go directly to pending and usually spend 6-8 hours there or more, completely deflating the chance for any interaction with others on that particular article. In other words, what is the use of my commenting? Maybe I did something to piss you off, Sam, but this is a final attempt at some sort of explanation before I just give up on this blog. I have to think, Sam, that has been the purpose of all my comments going directly to pending for hours, to discourage my commenting. I don’t think I’m being an asshole here, Sam, in asking for an honest explanation so I can ascertain whether to waste my time commenting here at all.
All you do is try to embarrass this place. So why should I look into your problem? Do you even like offg? All you do is complain and criticise? You say your comments don’t get seen, but they do, and you know that. Stop this campaign against us, and start helping this community regulate itself. You won’t need admin intervention if you have the decency to show this site some basic respect. We don’t have to agree, we don’t have to be best friends, but you do have to show this site respect. This cimmunity is built on trust, and if you are always attacking the foundations that this community is built on, with absolutely no loyalty to the resource offg provides, you have no right to act so entitled. A2
Check out the 1983 film “Blue Thunder.”
Now two pendings in a row.
Mr. and Mrs. America, upon hearing all about the lengths the government is going to in its surveillance of its “citizens,” has but one reaction: “Well, it’s about time! Thank God someone’s doing something to keep us safe!”
The real, true villain here is neither the US nor Israel but the stupid security obsessed American people with its insane mantra of “If you’ve done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear!”
The world will end with neither a bang nor a whimper – but with a desperate plea to “Protect us! Keep us safe!”
(BTW, the 1983 movie “Blue Thunder” presented the very technology noted in this article – and at the end of the movie, said that everything in the move was already operative.)
It is not an American thing, it is a compliant slave thing and it is global.
Most eastern european and meditarranean cultures ( where many Americans come from) have normalised police brutality through decades of CIA/KGB imposed martial law just as violence towards children was previously normalised in the interests of “discipline” in most christian cultures.
If anything, there is a larger segment of the US population that still cares about freedom/liberty than you’ll find in most countries.
Nobody thinks that except complete idiots and government employees. The same lot rolling up their sleeves for poison injections to keep them safe from invisible, never found viruses.
Indeed. Makes me wonder if he lives his whole life online…
Yeah. Brainwashing. Mind control. It’s deeply engrained in the majority. They can’t snap out of their programming.
RE: Toha was finally released in what Israeli soldiers chalked up to a “mistake,”
Facial recognition or other AI technologies don’t have to be accurate to be effective as the goal is not “fighting crime” but terrorizing the population.
Are you forgetting the fat profit from claiming AI works in every other thing, and from eliminating jobs?
No, but I did not mention it. In weapons manufacturing the MIC didn’t even have to build weapons systems that even functioned and would still glean massive profits (e.g. the F35). But this is a feature of capitalism, so it is likely the same with AI.
According to Aussie journalist Brendon O’Connell, Israel it taking over control of more of the world’s tech, at the same time continuing to destroy what is left of the USA.
https://rumble.com/v511zj5-patreon-video-82-the-secret-israeli-teams-that-run-america.html
Its been doing exactly the same here and the West generally through both tech and the ‘financial oligarchy’ who were its founders.
That elite have spent the last 80 years hollowing out the West ensuring that these ZOG entities are all that’s left of what passed for ‘liberal democracy’
Within the first couple of minutes of his talk O’Conell mentions “israeli nuclear bomb” when in fact he has no real evidence that anyone has any. All he has is military propaganda.
This is all propaganda so people don’t figure out the central control mechanisms. Or that their “nations” aren’t even legit. Just a bunch of privately owned corporations masquerading as governments, all centrally controlled: Unlawfully farming, taxing, brainwashing and enslaving their populations for profit and control. Then culling them at will using orchestrated wars, drugs, iatrogenesis, starvation, poisoning, radiation etc.
Obviously the Israel/Palestine “war” isn’t delivering enough Zionist outrage so ….
https://x.com/YaariCohen/status/1800594820228157499
Note how this Yaari Cohen has been posting more than once on this and is even giving nested posts of his own posts.
It looks most impressive, does it not?
Until you look at the original IDF tweet:
https://x.com/IDF/status/1800594304856953043
Yes, that’s right. The terrifying explosions come not from Hezbollah but from Israel’s very own “aerial defense systems” supposedly responding to “Hezbollah rockets”.
But here’s the thing: if those Hezbollah rockets themselves were so terrifying, don’t you think we would be getting video of them? Clearly the Hezbollah attack (assuming that it even happened) couldn’t have amounted to much. So the Israel “aerial defense system” had to be called in to really scare the shit out of the Israeli population.
I think that it is a good idea to research a topic before offering an opinion upon it.. Your comment reveals that you have absolutely no knowledge of the events that are taking place in Lebanon and Palestine.
In the real world, Hezbollah releases videos of their attacks on Israeli military sites every day.
Hezbollah have struck Israeli military bases in the past week with hundreds of missiles, including massive bombs that have all but destroyed Israeli military bases, or at least the part above ground.
The aftermath of some of those attacks can be seen here:
https://thecradle.co/articles/blind-and-deaf-how-israel-lost-the-north
Thanks James good link. So the Nazis are at it again. Bombing 33 small doo villages, sending 666 rockets over the civilian population in a holy land.
“SKYSTAR 330 by drone-striking its Battalion 869 operator.”
“62 missiles”
I can’t even… Lol! 100% Gematria. 😂
Ooh get you. Well if you had done some research and looked at the tweets I was accessing you’ll see that my point only had to relate to the internal logic as highlighted by this nice little propagandist exchange I was illustrating. One post contradicted the other.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPAbRsGWAAAccLz?format=jpg&name=large
No doubt it is not the first time. “iron dome” and other such fairy tales.
Western Ant-Ballistic Missile tech. is and has been a total fraud. With Russian advances (hyper-sonic missiles and electronic warfare) after the “superpower” scrapped the ABM treaty, it is a joke. The MSM is given the task of concealing this.
“We’re all in this together !” – Socialist slogan.
“Every man is an Island (aka – an Individual)!” – Capitalist slogan.
“Every man for himself !” – also Capitalist slogan
“Women and Children last !” – Anon**
(** Though i’ve a good idea who it was.)
With all that surveillance it is a wonder how there could be a surprise attack on October the 7th. Mean while different color eye contacts , fake noses and many other ways can be used as well as easily forged documents and false information. But one easy way to usurp
the dystopian state is to obey all the rules to the letter. Union’s worked out that if they wanted to force the management to agree to a pay rise they would force a work to rule ,
the system grinds to a halt when all rules are strictly obeyed by a significant proportion of the population. Some times it only takes the key workers. When the garbage men , the cleaners , those that deliver . cooks or those that serve the food obey in a non functional way and the rules become self defeating.
Considering how that Oct 7 attack came as such a surprise, the answer to outwitting surveillance is obvious: Make sure you’re in a paraglider at all times!
Stealth para-glider?
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Which explains the constant tales of “savagery among the savages”. Were the bison savage too?
As far as I know the only animals with an agenda is us.
‘are’ us.
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Well, this implies that Al Gore’s movie is the “truth.” Most of the narratives that are used to scare people from climate change to contagion are false.
Very good point, Tom, which also occurred to me. I am afraid that Al Gore, fraudulently as it is, owns that phrase. Perhaps the cartoonist might have used a similar phrase such as “the aggravating truth.”
See my comment below. The original cartoonist supported Al Bore’s movie.
Al Gore’s extravagant lifestyle proves he doesn’t own that phrase.
People in glass mansions _ _ _ _
He doesn’t have to own it (not my claim anyway) that the cartoon is a clear reference to the movie…
That cartoon was created by Clay Bennett for The Christian Science Monitor. He was a climate alarmist and it was in support of Al Bore’s movie ‘The inconvenient truth’. Hence, the the use of a movie theatre to make the point.
Since, he made it available for syndication once he left CSM, it was picked up for memes including the one you posted, meaning something very different to the original.
“People will believe what the media tells them they believe”, (George Orwell).
Literally, this.
Aerial surveillance the article mentions is insignificant. Only the increasing compulsion to carry the phone is necessary. A popular navigation app comes from Israhell.
Brilliant except for one point…
“…They’re (?) also helping to transform local police agencies into extensions of the military…” Yes but it’s not through “…thousands of American law enforcement officers frequently travel for training to Israel”
They trave there (and elsewhere) to engage in recorded activities that ensures their loyalty…
Otherwise thanks!
No worries, because Portland Is Teaching Kindergarteners to Join the Intifada
“Hey I’ve got to make sure I sound super sarcastic all the way through ’cause if I slip with the dry in-yer-face slimy sarky tone even for a second my Zionist masters may think I side with the Palestinians and I’ll never work again.”
must really suck to be an Israeli muppet.
We are all in a pot of water on a stove slowly
being brought to the boil…
Nameless Dread stalks us…
People wearing masks are appearing, again –
without any ‘encouragement’ (‘cept ‘nudge’);
at a local national supermarket chain store some
staff are now wearing ‘stay 6 ft apart’ yellow vests.
The next Jabs, when offered, will truly be voluntary…
Only just saw one yesterday wearing a mask, it’s unreal that some people are still buying into this hores manure.
Horse manure….or even whores manure😉.
It’s interesting, and noticeable.
As yet, however, it seems to me that there is only one masked ostrich in a typical social gathering – at least where I live.
One on a bus, one in a dentist’s waiting room, one in a small concert audience, one in an actual orchestra, one walking down the street…
God be praised, I don’t know a single one of them – perhaps they’re from Venus.
“Who the hell do you think you are?”, would be my gut reaction, but of course I’m too well brought up actually to say that, since I suppose they may have a serious auto-immune disease or something, which would make me look like an evil berk…
“A man is talking on the telephone behind a glass partition; you cannot hear him, but you see his incomprehensible dumb show: you wonder why he is alive“.
This discomfort in the face of man’s own inhumanity, this incalculable tumble before the image of what we are, this “nausea”, is also the absurd.
Likewise the stranger who at certain seconds comes to meet us in a mirror, the familiar and yet alarming brother we encounter in our own photographs is also the absurd.
Note the word “lucidity”, and the phrase “before the image of what we are”.
They show that Camus considers the alienated attitude—the alienated value-judgments—that he describes in this passage to be somehow the truest or best or most honest way of experiencing the world.
Camus is fascinated with Sisyphus repeated walk down the hill with the stone he has pulled up, as man’s main purpose in life.
Albert Camus, The myth of Sisyphus.(enjoy)
Mass protests and marches dont get a political response or
solution now…Though they did in The Past…
Then everything was Granted – to buy-off, to incorporate, to
recuperate any major opposition…
But everything Granted is now being withdrawn, even our
Granted ‘rights’…
It’s always been feudalism for the Working Class, always
having to “tips me hat to The Man” !
Slaves to the Industrial Machines, slaves to technology…
(The Luddites didnt stop The Machine Age).
Horses are allowed to run free (to consume) in the paddocks –
until again they’re needed for work (then, until they’re sent to
the knackery)…
(At my local, the new young barman says to me he’s “lucky”
this week as he got two 5-hour shifts…He doesnt talk about
The Future (or Gaza, Ukraine, or his ‘rights’)…I wonder what
he thinks about us regulars – mostly over 40s, in either full time
work, or retired on ‘generous’ pensions)…
Worse than Big Brother.
It’s BIG MUTHA;
https://dissidentvoice.org/2024/06/we-do-need-those-stinking-badges/
Muscles mean madness. Apparently;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/getting-fit-could-turn-you-into-a-rightwing-jerk
Well, the Groan would know…
Where do you stand, Wardropper? Do you tend to agree with the apparent consensus that Offg has serious problems? Do you think the comments are ruined by the admin team? Do you think we’re a limited hangout? Please, give your feedback. Any thoughts?
I think you misunderstand the comments.
I see no serious consensus against OffG other than the usual self important sheeple small talk which no one should take seriously.
I find your Moderation very free, your comments are normally educated (not here), and the few we see you remove are fully justified. We are after all only humans. So keep on.
You’d be wrong. Try doing my job in this toxic atmosphere for 24 hours and you’d see.
I know it from other areas.
A friend realize his dream of opening a cafe with cheap drinks, well prepared snacks, real fruit juices and good atmosphere, music and interesting people. But most of his customers show to be gays, alcoholics, social outcasts, crybabies, bad language.
Politicians with visions, but his voters show up to be only interested in “getting more”, titles and look “fino”, and give a fuck about visions.
Whatever, I find there are valuable pearls in between in OffG set up, and thus worth it and hope you find these too..
Many are tired of weirdos and empty sheeple. But we will have to live with it until the divine force want it different.
What else annoys you about the comments, Johnny? Any suggestions?
Never you mind Mr Whitehead, Taylor Swift is gonna save your violent, warmongering nation:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/taylor-swift-the-anti-hero-of-the-us-presidential-race/103427190
Wanna meet some born again ex ‘conspiracy’ thinkers?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-12/conspiracy-theory-believers-on-how-they-got-out-of-rabbit-hole/103907258
Funny, no mention of “The Commies are coming” (Vietnam, Korea, South America), the “WMDs in Iraq”, the “Terrorists attacks everywhere” and of course, the “Tens of millions of Covid deaths” CONSPIRACIES perpetrated by governments to enrich their masters. Funny that.
Do you think Offg is run appallingly badly? Do you think everyone BTL is right? Has offg lost it? What do you think, Johnny?
I’ve answered some of your questions on another thread Sam.
We can only do the best we can with what we have.
BTL has a few meanings.
Not sure of yours Sam.
In some ways the Scamdemic has been a good thing.
It has sorted the seers from the believers.
The free from the followers.
Off G is in a good place.
Then help take responsibility for that. No one wants admin intervention, yet no one challenges critics or has any defence for offg and the service they provide when it counts. Where’s the loyalty to what offg provides? Where’s the courage? Offg is in a ‘good place’, YES, yet everyday the community is dragged down by people making unfounded accusations that go unchallenged.
Challenge them. That’s the new rule. THIS IS YOUR COMMUNITY. BE BRAVE. Thanks for listening, Johnny. 😉 A2
PS. You have no idea how good a place offg is in, btw. I could take that as a bit complacent and patronising of you, but I shan’t lol
The Australian Parliament has recently passed its Digital I.D. Bill into law. They say it will be “voluntary” (just like the covid jab). Most of the horrific technologies described in this article will need people with an I.D. – it is the gateway to digital slavery.
Will a picture of your rear end suffice? I mean, if you were born with a facial disability that resembles and arse who is going to argue with you? Just scream discrimination if you aren’t taken seriously. It seems to work for everyone else. Failing all this I would ask the Aboriginies for forgivness and follow them to Utopia.
Let’s give THEM the ‘digit’ May.
The middle one.
You are blaming the civil Police for what the Military is doing, thus creating chaos and misconception in the civil society. Bad joke. 😖
No Police force has ever been civil and they were never about protecting the public. US police originates in runaway slave hunting crews and UK police has a similar origin, dealing with the wage slaves. The checkerboard pattern that both forces like to use comes straight from the masonic lodges.
funny how across the “developed” world, police forces have used the same 50’s american style uniform with the same ridiculous polygonal cap in different drab colours, and now they are all turning to black with american style bill caps and military tactical gear… i guess the pursuit of total power leads to increasingly narrow options!
The black uniform puts fear into the Sheeple, nothing more. Most modern Cops won’t engage with the Public or even walk the streets because their bosses tell them the general public are the enemy to be finanicially fleeced and kicked in the face at any cost.
Bs. The uniform is there to tell people here is Authority educated to handle an emergency situation.
In all emergency situations you must follow an order, because it can cost lives not to do it.
Its blowing up to storm in front of your sail-yacht. The captain in black uniform order you to reap the sails. In case you start crying you have your socialist rights or another opinion and he is a fascist because he has a black uniform, you risk the sail yacht will go down and people will drown.
The fire inspector outside the building on fire scream ” ALL MEN OUT”, then all men inside the building must follow the order, because only the Fire Inspector outside can see the roof is about to break down, or the staircase is empty of oxygen and therefore in a few minutes will be set on fire in a click with people inside.
The people inside is occupied with their own jobs.
As the Police is educated to handle an emergency situation, you should follow their orders immediately if you are an educated person who knows how your society is organised. Well, you so just revealed you are not. Sad.
You never fail to amuse me, Erik. 👁
Yes, I already know you find emergency situations amusing.
All Liberals do if we should go ideological.
Here is another Leftist Democratic amusing situation:
When the Police clean up these organisations, they are fascists yes?
I won’t bite, Erik 😘
Thats why we have the Police.
Most people wont bite. Meaning they would never handle any of the above people if we didnt have the Police.
Thats why I find it a bit too cheap to blame the Police for what the military do of bad things.
Nothing personal. I think its a general bad behaviour among the public using the Police as scapegoat..
Tell me. Would you blame the Military if a Cop manhandled you? We’re takling modern Policing here, Erik.
The Police work among civilians and thus have to have a minimum of civilised manner.
Police officer notwithstanding the situation could generally speaking never arrive at the level of atrocity that the military is able to.
I have a general rule of thumb: If you cant convince a police officer that you have a good case, you are the problem!
I mean how will you ever be able to convince the military, oligarchs, capitalists, rich people, politicians, the sheeple, if you cant even convince an educated police officer?
Say there are black sheep in there, but out here are even more of those yes? Or no?
You’re trolling. It’s what you do.
Just about all firemen are 9/11 liars, cowards and traitors to their country. Just about all cops are “Sandy Hook” liars, cowards and traitors to their country. What the “COVID” psyop demonstrated was the corruption and cowardice of most doctors, nurses and medical professionals. There is no “mystery” to be unveiled. Just the degenerate rottenness and corruption of the “professionals” we somehow expected to “protect” us and “take care” of us and “heal” us. No rocket science required to grasp that essential reality. Welcome to post-modern technocratic Stalinism.
At the same time we are all humans. We all lie to some extent. It is not only the others.
When I read books or philosophers from 100 years and older, its exactly the same themes as of today:
Hard work rolling the stone up to the hill top, wars and conflicts to kick the stone down the hill again, starting all over again, building back better.
Because people dont know what else they should do down here. There is nothing new under the sun.
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2024-06-10. WHO backtracks: man in Mexico did NOT die bcoz of bird flu. GMC also holds investments jab makers (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).
As the “World Wide Web” draws tighter, the masses are being even more distracted by “political theatre”.
Do you think it really matters who is placed in charge of your government?
Consider all the non-elected agencies working against humanity (WEF, UN, WHO, and the dark money funded NGO’s)
If there is no real pushback soon the ‘authoritarian bio-surveillance police state” will be completely entrenched and there will be no escaping “the net”.
Run you may, hide you will not…
Those who don’t know about it can’t fight back against it. And those who know about it can do little but try and push back in relative silence.
Some well known e-commerce sites are trying the face login as a test to see how many sheeple bite, but you can reject it for now and log in manually with a username and password. Soon it will be mandatory or you won’t be getting your retail therapy.
For starters use cash as much as you can never mind the inconvenience, if a retail outlet or other non-essential service only excepts digital payment methods then we must boycott those businesses otherwise the end result is going to be:
“No Cash=No Freedom”
When someone you know shrugs at that comment, ask them how will they pay for things when the power/internet is out for days, weeks, months etc?
It maybe triggered by an act of sabotage (hacking etc), or war or even our sun.
ex. The Carrington Event
https://www.space.com/the-carrington-event
Many folk I’ve met know about the trap being laid while some couldn’t care less and will switch off if you mention CBDC’s. Are those of us willing to push back pissing in the wind if the walking dead couldn’t care less? It’s looking that way but I remain slightly optimistic.
I guess it’s up to all of us who are aware of the digital prison being built to contain us, to “lead by example”, “be the change you want to see” etc. etc.. Our energy and spirit focused on the ultimate prize “freedom” will have the positive effect we seek and will ripple through the rest of the world. In solidarity with you Thom Crewz and with everyone out there zeroing in on the golden prize.
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It will be the same outcome as the Covid case. We will be divided into two groups and those who jump on the plastic train will end up in the mud.
We will have inconvenience in the first period, buy we will win ourselves when their synthetic system becomes dysfunctional.
Remember cash is a flexible system adapted to organic life, and e-money is a rigid high risk system for ordinary people, even if they benefit from it in the first period.
Israel among its other satanic operations also trains police forces around the planet in Krav Maga, which is an israeli developed dumbed down kung-fu stripped of the martial spirit and energy balancing exercises and simplifed with the most damaging techniques, so that any meathead can quickly learn it with a few months of training.
The basis of the training is in paranoia: you assume your opponend can kill you and you anticipate his attack, learning to reflexively react to the slightest movement with totallhy ruthless strikes to the neck, groin, gouging eyes, and kicks to the head once the opponent is down (this is not taught to civilians).
The knee to the neck that killed George Floyd is straight krav maga. The training infuses the Israeli soldier mentality (kill or be killed) where everything is a potential lethal threat and targets must be “neutralised” with overwhelming force before they can do anything. Everyone may be carrying a weapon, etc.
Only people trained in brazilian jiu jitsu or other advanced martial arts practitioners or powerful boxers have a chance in unarmed combat against someone with police / military training in krav maga.
The tell- tale sign of someone trained in this is that they will hold their arms up at the beginning of a confontation as if to do the “calm down” gesture. Or they will loosely cross the arms across their chest, maybe one hand under their chin or under their vest ( UK Police do this). This put their arms closer to the attack/ defend position so they can strike out faster than having their arms down.
if you see this, they are getting ready to attack, so get out of there.
The ‘stars’ are falling.
Must be the gravity of Truth.
As above so below…
US war ops are 50% geopolitical (economic (capitalist)) DISRUPTION of the “other” and 50% live experiment on military personnel and the occupied populations. US reservations of the indigenous a model for the Nazi concentration camps, and Gaza, an open-air prison archetype for the bottom 90% of Humanity. All become a remote control, unmanned containment formula prison, thru AI, IoT, 5G, GM, micro-particle, digital panopticon sold to us as “convenience”. It all won’t work and isn’t working of course, but the dopes that go along with it can’t even see that. Like those who are voting for war-empire-serfdom or war-empire-serfdom-with-a-digital-cherry-on-top.
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For many years Mr. Whitehead, and for awhile Mrs. Whitehead along with him, has/have been sounding the alarm about, marking the many and relentless steps of degeneration of the American republic towards totalitarianism.
Not that the information is incorrect, and it’s valuable information for the open-minded uninformed, but I don’t recall any or many solutions, recommendations for actions being offered, suggested, other than maybe vague exhortations to ‘get involved’ along the lines of the Peter Finch as ‘Howard Beale’ Mad As Hell speech in the movie Network.
What, specifically, do the Whiteheads think we should all do, beyond being fully informed about the ongoing degeneration? As Lee Gaulman (https://www.patreon.com/TheQuash) a lawyer, aka, ‘Legalman‘ puts it, is it thought we should continue to jump up and down, write checks, vote harder, write letters, demonstrate, petition, or litigate our way out of this spiraling situation?
Besides the obvious reality that none of those things work, I don’t think the Whiteheads mention remedies much, if at all. If they do, then rarely and briefly, and only along the general lines of getting involved, informed. They’re not writing whole articles about them.
Gaulman’s message is stark, as well, but he does offer a couple of suggested remedies, the main one being, by way of Lysander Spooner’s writings, the use of jury nullification, which sounds like a worthwhile tack to try, and something fairly straightforward to learn about: https://the-quash.captivate.fm/episode/spooner-trial-by-jury-pt-1
That aside, my question stands: What do the Whiteheads suggest we do now? We have more than enough chronicling about the fall, and I think it becomes redundant and demoralizing now without accompanying solutions.
I’m also not endeared to the Whiteheads never responding to comments or messages, not so far as I’ve ever seen, and never to mine, and I’ve emailed them, as well. I don’t trust that, particularly in combination with the nature of their writing, i.e., alarm sounding without remedy or suggestion.
He is focused on the Middle Kingdom or the centre of the world. This reflects the rest of his country. There is evasion of history, geography, culture or other knowledge from elsewhere. Any foreign reference gets brief publicity only when that is politically or commercially necessary. We cannot expect any broader view.
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Thanks for the quote Johnny, kudos to you and Bukowski!
quite, this is the raison d’être of ‘alt media’ whilst the ship is sinking, debate its cargo.
Yeah. The Quash. I’ve promoted him numerous times on this site. Jury NULLIFICATION is a solution.
I’ve delved slightly further than “legalman” goes with regard to how the US (and world) legal control systems were erected and maintained. And the truth is worse than people realize. Yet paradoxically, it’s much better, because all powers governments claim to hold over populations are fraudulent and criminal.
There’s no lawful governance of the people in any nation. All the so-called governments; republics, parliaments etc., are defrauding citizenry by 1. diminishing their legal status, 2. using an ALL CAPS name of each “citizen” by creating the Cestui Que Vie-Birth Certificate Trusts to 3. unlawfully tax the populations, 4. *and* back all currencies *and* 5. unlawfully conflate the living man and woman with a piece of paper, trust, or ID owned by “the State”.
The State being, an estate of the Crown Temple, controlled by the Holy See. VATICAN. UN. BIS. IMF etc.
All “legal” and corporate roads lead back to Rome. Is-Ra-El being a satellite of Rome.
I have a pending comment, which I suspect is pending due to my having included url links. How long do comments take to get reviewed? Thinking I’ll just repost the comment without the links….
Randomly having your messages “pended” is a reminder that the internet is not the public domain, it is a US military psy-op.