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Oh! Give it a rest!

Iain Davis

Recently the Telegraph published “I’d Like to believe the Moon landings were fake – the alternative is far bleaker.” It’s an anonymous editorial, posing as a movie review. The former Telegraph journalists, who has now been officially labelled a “conspiracy theorist,” James Delingpole, observed:

Telegraph does limited hangout on fake moon landings so that 77th can then swarm over the comments and put moon landing deniers in their place.

Delingpole’s jibe at the UK Army’s online hybrid warfare unit, 77th Brigade, probably wasn’t too far removed from the truth. Though they are perhaps more likely to be hoovering up “intel” from the replies to Delingpole’s tweet—yes “tweet” I say—than the virtually dead comments section in the Telegraph.

Whether you believe humanity has been to the moon or not, the Telegraph piece wasn’t really about that, nor was it a movie review. It made some interesting points about demise of the productive economy in the West and the “Age of Entitlement” theories of Christopher Caldwell, etc., but that wasn’t it’s real subject matter either.

It was subtle, but pure propaganda. In fact its subtlety made it particularly pernicious and, as is often the case, more effective propaganda.

By placing Moon landing scepticism within the context of a disillusioned public malaise, the article offers understanding and, at times, acceptance of the reasons why people might doubt that Armstrong et al., wandered around on the Lunar surface. The Telegraph reader is invited to develop some empathy for the poor deluded souls who question the Moon landing story because they “exist in oblique relation to empirical reality.”

The problem is, you see, that these unfortunate fools are “conspiracy theorists” and if there’s one thing we know about conspiracy theories is that “they make most sense when understood not as factual claims but as emotional stories – allegories.”

The Telegraph explains:

[. . .] a great deal of effort has been expended over the decades trying to use evidence to dispel the conspiracy ­theories. But attempting to debunk them logically is to misunderstand what such claims are communicating. [. . .] Why won’t we all just accept the facts? Perhaps because most people aren’t ­interested in or persuaded by facts alone.

Interesting, hmm? So what are the facts that reveal the “empirical reality”?

Well, with regard to the Moon landings, according to the Telegraph, we can be absolutely certain it happened for the following reasons:

Humans first landed on the Moon on July 20 1969. More than half a billion people watched on tele­vision as Neil Armstrong and Aldrin took their first steps on the arid surface. They left behind an American flag, a patch honouring the fallen crew of Apollo 1, and a plaque that read: “We came in peace for all mankind.” The sixth Apollo mission to land humans on the Moon concluded three years later. The Moon has not been visited by astronauts since December 1972.

There we go. Facts established, say no more.

Of course some people might wonder why NASA claims it has yet to overcome the tricky problem of getting people through the Van Allen radiation belt alive when it did so repeatedly more than fifty years ago. Perhaps others wonder why there is video of the Apollo astronauts faking imagery of a distant Earth while in low Earth orbit, at a time when they should have been 125,000 miles away. Why can’t we “see” the flags or indeed the rest of the debris they supposedly left up there? How did they get the batteries to work in Lunar conditions, who took the photographs, why does the LEM look like the Clangers made it?

Personally, I think the idea that the Apollo Moon Landings were all—OK, mostly—a resounding success about as plausible as the notion that bricks make good kites. But as I said, the Telegraph article isn’t really about that and who cares what I think?

What the Telegraph wants its readers to believe is that facts are established by consensus. Everyone saw the Moon landings on the telly, loads of people say it happened and, most crucially of all, esteemed members of the epistemic authorities say it happened. No one needs to think anything else. Just trust whatever authority tells you.

Expanding on its unhinged opinions about the nature of evidence, facts and knowledge, the Telegraph ploughs ahead with, what James Corbett called, “the factchecker trick.”

Using a composition fallacy, you take the most absurd claim you can find, insist it is representative of a whole swath of opinion—even when it isn’t—debunk it and then, Voila! Every other argument is “debunked” by association. It doesn’t matter that there is no actual association, you just claim there is and the job’s a good’n.

I’ll let the Telegraph demonstrate:

Among the many conspiracies that circulated concerning the Covid vaccination programme, one common claim was that vaccines were really a covert programme to inject each of us with a microchip that would allow Bill Gates to track our whereabouts or even control our minds. This is, we can safely say, not true.

Well, we can certainly say there is no evidence to suggest Bill Gates was putting mind-controlling microchips in the jabs. Equally, we can say there is no evidence that this was a “common claim.” In fact, those of us with a more sceptical bent might wonder just who it was that ever suggested the daft story in the first place.

But it is certainly easy to “debunk.”

And moving on to the necessary association:

Conversely, though, the vaccination programme really was accompanied by the international rollout of digital “vaccine passports”, which link vaccination ­status to other biomedical data, as well as official state identifiers. And while it’s no longer in active use, this architecture now enables states potentially to track individuals’ movements, and to index freedoms previously taken for granted – such as travel or access to public spaces – to co-operation with who-knows-what future mandatory medical interventions. However, this probably isn’t a ­sinister plot, whatever the conspiracists may say.

Now I distinctly remember people pointing this out when it was happening. I was one of them. Indeed, I remember quite a few of us wacky conspiracy theorists banging on about the construction of a bio-security state of exception and how this wasn’t a very good idea. Well, not for human beings anyway.

We certainly did allow the state to construct the “architecture” that will enable it “to track individuals’ movements, and to index freedoms previously taken for granted.”

But I don’t recall anyone who highlighted this self-sacrificial folly simultaneously claiming that Bill Gates had spiked the jabs with brain chips. That little asserted association from the Telegraph appears to be bullshit.

And may I freely state that restricting travel, curtailing our freedom of association, locking us in urban silos and removing our right to bodily autonomy, based on unsubstantiated claims made about a cold, sounds like a pretty bloody “sinister plot” to me.

But that’s must be because I’m a conspiracy theorist.

Apparently, according to the Telegraph, while people were pointing toward the evident fact that the state was using Covid to erect a technocratic enslavement grid, and while that is all now freely admitted, to have warned people about it at the time was to engage in conspiracy theory.

Furthermore, if we follow the Telegraph’s . . er . . logic, the people who were all completely right—the conspiracy theorists—should never be heeded again because they are a bunch of loonies who actually think Bill Gates is a lizard demon.

This is all true because the Telegraph says it is true. So, as it increasingly dawns on the population that a stringent system of bio-security “state iden­tifiers” is actually going to be used to control them, it is important to remember that this is not evidence of a “sinister plot.”

It might feel a bit oppressive but, according to the Telegraph, that’s just the “discomfiting sense” that comes when technological innovations “increasingly intrude into our physical, embodied lives.” So just accept it, and don’t worry about it Telegraph readers. There’s nothing to see here and if you suspect there is you are a conspiracy theorist and all your friends will think you’re an idiot.

Capiche!

The Telegraph’s propaganda is subtle because it is inserted into an article that provides the reader with seemingly rational analysis, but there’s nothing rational about it. The propaganda is covert and mendacious. You might call it “sinister.”

Rounding off its propaganda sandwich, despite the “fact” that today’s technological capability makes the technology of the the 1960’s look like a stone cartwheel, the Telegraph explains that the reason we can’t get to the Moon now is because “the achievements of mid-20th-century America were the achievements of a different civilisation, one now as distant and mysterious as the Moon.”

But the Moon is not mysterious is it?

According to the “official story,” people were playing golf on it and driving around the Moon in chuffin’ beach buggies more than half a century ago. We just can’t do that today because NASA has lost all the telemetry data and archive material of mankind’s “greatest ever achievement” and says it has forgotten how to fly to and, more importantly, land on and then fly back from the Moon.

Oh! Give it a rest!

Iain Davis is an independent journalist a researcher from the UK. You can read more of Iain’s work at his blog IainDavis.com (Formerly InThisTogether) or on UK Column or follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his SubStack. His new book Pseudopandemic, is now available, in both in kindle and paperback, from Amazon and other sellers. Or you can claim a free copy by subscribing to his newsletter.

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Edwige
Edwige
Jul 13, 2024 1:58 PM

The Van Allen belts aren’t the only or even the main danger from radiation in space according to the official narrative.

Radiation from the sun is more dangerous, not least because it is entirely unpredictable when the sun will emit solar flares. The period of the Apollo missions was a time of quite high activity.

I’m not sure if it’s still true but until quite recently it was certainly the case that no Apollo astro-naught had died of cancer despite the exposure to radiation they should have experienced.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Jul 13, 2024 11:20 AM

Very good article. Regarding Bill Gates and micro chips I ridiculed the idea a while ago.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/06/11/lies-youre-told-about-the-covid-vaccine-nhs-approved/

Human values
Human values
Jul 13, 2024 1:49 AM

”We just can’t do that today because NASA has lost all the telemetry data and archive material of mankind’s “greatest ever achievement” and says it has forgotten how to fly to and, more importantly, land on and then fly back from the Moon.” NASA hasn’t said anything like that and hasn’t lost any data. Why are you lying? This article was embarrassing, but most comments are even worse. What’s fake is the picture attached to the article and all those silly youtube videos proving only ignorance or deliberate misinformation. You seem to be so certain that all space flights have been fake, you don’t care to research any actual science or even read replies to comments on those youtube videos. Practically every question that you pose has been answered over and over. The NASA engineer doesn’t say what you think he says. The title of that video is misleading. Radio… Read more »

Chris Gwynne
Chris Gwynne
Jul 13, 2024 5:29 AM
Reply to  Human values

Thank you. A comment of reason in a sea of nonsense.

Dr Mike Yeadon
Dr Mike Yeadon
Jul 13, 2024 10:23 AM
Reply to  Human values

So, there are no official images of the surface of the moon showing clear evidence of two sources of light, then?
Because if there are such images, they must be faked, and why include any faked images if we’d been there?

David McBain
David McBain
Jul 12, 2024 8:05 PM

They’ve maybe discovered oil up there.

Claret
Claret
Jul 12, 2024 5:56 PM

Don’t let the length of this video put you off….the first 5 or 10 minutes are painful,tense,nervous and uncomfortable enough for most of us to understand that these men have not been anywhere near the fckin moon.

Apollo 11 Press conference 1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI

There used to be loads of youtube channels with much shorter versions which all seem to have vanished.

Ort
Ort
Jul 12, 2024 7:49 PM
Reply to  Claret

FWIW, a long while ago I did watch that cringe-inducing press conference.

I don’t know if this comment appears in your linked version, but I still remember someone scathingly dismissing the interpretation that the alleged astronauts were manifestly uncomfortable and unsuccessfully scrambling to give plausible accounts and answers to questions.

Nonsense! this apologist asserted. Anyone familiar with the “Top Gun” military mindset understood that the crew’s attitude and tone arose because they were understandably insulted and pissed off at being dragged into a stupid public-relations press conference instead of doing useful post-mission work.

In other words, supposedly their demeanor was not a “tell” for guilt and conflicted mendacity– they were just determined to push through the onerous appearance without openly losing their tempers.

Now pull the other one!  🃏  🤨

Jagat
Jagat
Jul 12, 2024 3:19 PM

The telegraph piece reads like a Chatgpt generated one

Joe
Joe
Jul 12, 2024 11:32 AM

Anyone ever notice that NASA claims that the module surface reached 5000 degrees Fahrenheit, but the interior cabin remained at 75F?

The walls were only about 6 inches thick, with materials such as aluminum , stainless steel and glass (window). Does that not seem absurd?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2024 7:58 PM
Reply to  Joe

No. Its all about electromagnetic shields and atomic chemical interactions.
Nano-bots electric loaded with Freon molecules surround the Apollo ships and reject both the heat and the toxic waves. It works like vaseline against its surroundings.

For people like me who have basic knowledge and understanding of Einstein and atomic physics, it is a simple matter.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jul 12, 2024 9:25 AM

NASA’s greatest ever achievement, forgetting how they did it. Totally unbelieveable.

Syppie
Syppie
Jul 12, 2024 7:46 AM

Which materials to use?

‘Thermosphere
The thermosphere is located above the mesosphere. The temperature in the thermosphere generally increases with altitude reaching 600 to 3000 F (600-2000 K) depending on solar activity’
https://www.albany.edu/faculty/rgk/atm101/structur.htm

Only titanium is in: https://fractory.com/melting-point-of-metals-chart/

And what about a vacuum next to gas?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 12, 2024 6:34 PM
Reply to  Syppie

Thermosphere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermosphere

“The highly attenuated gas in this layer can reach 2,500 °C (4,530 °F). Despite the high temperature, an observer or object will experience low temperatures in the thermosphere, because the extremely low density of the gas (practically a hard vacuum) is insufficient for the molecules to conduct heat. “

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 12, 2024 6:25 AM

See here is a studio production of The First Steps On The Moon. The rack of Studio Lights falls down and smashes into the lander and the film crew step into view to fix the problem to do another take. https://youtu.be/LCuhsvUAwdU?si=MDTm_NgoOCqZrNZB So who made this bit of footage and why? How does anyone know it is fake beyond conjecture and a musing speculation? Or “real”? Why does a discussion regarding the attempted manipulation using a faker faking a faked fake fakery get shut down? Why is a one worded comment considered to be of any value when there is absolutely zero evidence supporting the commenter’s one worded claim? Yes, it is blindingly obviously that the one worded comment is a suggestion that the footage is a fake made to cast doubt upon the sceptic’s credibility. Duh! But where is the actual evidence that this is the case. Who made this… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 12, 2024 12:15 PM
Reply to  David Ho

It was filmed in a London studio in Spring 2002; director Adam Stewart. Moontruth themselves wrote a subsequent disclaimer:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030611002037/http://moontruth.com/how.htm

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 12, 2024 3:51 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Thank you very much for this perl. I really do appreciate this.

NickM
NickM
Jul 12, 2024 6:04 AM

Delingpole has form. He denied that flight MH17 from Holland to Australia was shot down over Ukraine by NATZO and its proxy Ukro-nazi regime. So does the Dutch regime. And the Australian regime.

They’re all in it together.

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Jul 12, 2024 1:25 PM
Reply to  NickM
SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Jul 12, 2024 1:47 PM
Reply to  NickM

Those orbs making crop circles in the 80’s (30 seconds)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

The Langoliers might be involved (3 hours)

cyberusurpia
cyberusurpia
Jul 11, 2024 9:12 PM

So what are they going to do? Smoke out all the Moon Landing Deniers?

Gaslight the Gaslighters.

gordan
gordan
Jul 11, 2024 8:52 PM

i cannot r e m remember i cannot
eye saw a rock in a museum when i was a kid
i said it looks normal like a rock from the desert.
i went up to the man overlooking the thing.
i said excuse me mista how do we nose it from der moon.
he said look dere eye said where he said dare
i said what the label he said yer

i looked at the label and it said moon rock property of nasa
and so it goes

gordan
gordan
Jul 11, 2024 8:33 PM

why would they lie
watch the interview buzz lightyear aldrin and neil streych armstrong did after they got back

the one where they said they did not see any stars

look at the faces the collusion peter hyams directed capricorn one and 2010
arthur c clark was a 33 degree

check out magnus magnussen the mastermind guy in a studio with carl sagan and stephen hawkins and arthur c clarke

everything is bogus init

SevereleyRegarded
SevereleyRegarded
Jul 11, 2024 7:44 PM

Now do WW2

Tommy
Tommy
Jul 11, 2024 7:36 PM

They always spin this boring, predictable story about how every opinion that disagrees with orthodox wisdom exists only to satisfy people’s need for comfort and security and certainty. This is probably at least plausible in every case; They just never mention the fact that the exact same “argument” could be made about literally everything that anyone believes anywhere ever.

This talking point seems to serve entirely to discourage and distract from any serious factual analysis of the respective opinions. It is one of the most boneheaded and transparent non-arguments I have ever seen, and it frustrates me to no end how people always believe it is somehow relevant just because they have gotten some officially designated ‘expert’ to say it.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 11, 2024 6:04 PM

And yet somehow the dream remains:

For All Mankind (1989)

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 11, 2024 5:31 PM

I believe this dynamic is central to all societal relations and to the basic human nature of most people: In spite of “…the evident fact that the state was using Covid to erect a technocratic enslavement grid….all now freely admitted, to have warned people about it at the time was to engage in conspiracy theory. Furthermore,…the people who were all completely right—the conspiracy theorists—should never be heeded…”, or ever acknowledged as having been right or given the benefit of the doubt in future because they were and usually are right. This is every single time about every single thing. Regardless that it’s either known for certain or the most plausible of all possibilities that all the major mainstream narratives range from incorrect to, usually, pure fabrications, the starting reference point never changes for the vast majority of people. From the legend of ‘Shakespeare’ to central banking and the World Wars… Read more »

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 11, 2024 1:57 PM

RE: …if there’s one thing we know about conspiracy theories is that “they make most sense when understood not as factual claims but as emotional stories – allegories.”

Thing is, the exact opposite is true. Mainstream propaganda narratives succeed because they are emotional stories.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 11, 2024 4:54 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

“if there’s one thing we know about conspiracy theories is that “they make most sense when understood not as factual claims but as emotional stories – allegories.””

Note how this “thing we know” totally bypasses the troublesome possibility of considering the conspiracy theory as being true. Such a possibility is ruled out in advance.

TFS
TFS
Jul 11, 2024 1:11 PM

I believe the story came out on the 7th, which is interesting because I’m sure this should have been in the medias eye…..

http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/

With the moon landing, and correct me if I’m wrong, most of the data, design specs, original films of the landings are found to have been accidentally deleted?

As shame if true, with relation to the Moon Landing films and even footage around 9/11 (build 7 collapse) etc, I believe there is some mileage in using technology invented 10+ yrs ago by MIT to run over the images.

Applied to the Moon Landings I think one way or the other they ‘may’ show if they were fake or not.

Applied to the images of Building 7, may detect explosions going off prior to collapse.

SevereleyRegarded
SevereleyRegarded
Jul 11, 2024 9:15 PM
Reply to  TFS

Nice link, would read if I hadn’t watched 7/7 Ripple Effect already

Cloudster
Cloudster
Jul 11, 2024 1:09 PM

What I do find interesting is the level of conspiracy theorist. “I can clearly see the government tyranny and harmful vaccines but lizards and microchips are crazy conspiracy theories that give us all a bad name”. So for the “normies” government tyranny is beyond belief and for others microchips are. However James Corbett himself on his piece on Bill Gates discussed the research on microchips that have been going on for decades. Mind control? Well that is very feasible also – have you noticed how demented some of the vaccinated are? Here is an example anecdote (it’s not direct mind control mind but where does one draw the line?): https://x.com/harryfisheremtp/status/1811154723942322258?s=46&t=-FXpclzcHjgbMEJ-wQ4CHQ Sadly mind control takes less than magnetic graphene in the system to be subjected to it, all that’s needed these days is social media and a phone. Curious to continue watching this unfold. If not via the vaccine the chips… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 12, 2024 8:09 AM
Reply to  Cloudster

Many research papers confirm mental harm from the jab, days or months later and lasting for a long time. There were already many mentally ill people governments were evading responsibility for. We are a long way from manipulation through chips.

No government has explained (a) declared and covert additives (b) bizarre microscopic changes, e.g., rectilinear construction (c) magnetism (d) mass infection (with known diseases), injury and death. Instead, governments have suppressed or deflected from these matters.

judith
judith
Jul 11, 2024 1:08 PM

Oh my God, “this probably isn’t a sinister plot”.!!!!

I’m surprised it didnt’ read “this prob’ly isn’t a sinister plot”, since it sounds like something a three year old would say when caught sneaking a cookie from the tin.

Jesus Lord.

Great article, Mr. Davis. Thank you.

,

Simon D
Simon D
Jul 11, 2024 1:06 PM

Until the end of last month it was a conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was suffering from an advanced case of senile decay. Then someone in the DNC decided he had to go, put him up on telly against The Orange One, and now the American chatterati are all conspiracy theorists too.

This saying is getting traction out there: ‘What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? Ooh, about three months.’

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 11, 2024 1:11 PM
Reply to  Simon D

The only curve Hollywood is ahead of is _ _ _ $

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 11, 2024 12:09 PM

what about the new film with scarlett johanson?

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 11, 2024 2:00 PM
Reply to  sabelmouse

What !!!
Scarlett is part of the inner circle?
I’m devastated.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 11, 2024 3:17 PM
Reply to  Johnny

i’m just wondering if anyone has seen it. what they’re actually saying.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 11, 2024 5:04 PM
Reply to  sabelmouse

I’ve seen it. Good film. Very funny in parts (without spoilers). Faked moon landings act as a ‘backup’ for a real parallel mission to the moon.

In terms of themes it’s (perhaps) about how fakery and reality work in parallel and sometimes seemingly benefit one another (fiction benefiting reality and vice versa, or do they?). Also whether lies or truth ultimately dominate.

“The truth is still the truth even if nobody believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it”
~ Scarlett Johansson, “Fly Me to the Moon (2024)”

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 12, 2024 2:32 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

thanks. i’m just wondering how much i is to cover for the ” no real ” discussions. …

gordan
gordan
Jul 11, 2024 8:36 PM
Reply to  Johnny

scarlet invested in soda stream israel factories

he is a very odd looking boy the older it gets

a pretty young boy in that film in japan with bill murray

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 12:08 PM

‘Fly me to the Moon’… “a sparkling rom-com”.

On the side of every other bus round here at the moment.

Not much chance of any rest being given.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 11, 2024 3:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

i love that song, especially by juile london. makes sense that they’d use it, sinatra’s version to enhance the experience, back in the 60s.
idk what this film is saying exactly.

James Robertson
James Robertson
Jul 11, 2024 7:23 PM
Reply to  sabelmouse

The movie is about the unlikely romance between a PR flack (Johannsen) and a NASA fellow(?) in the 1960s at the time of the Apollo program. Just in case something might go wrong with the mission, the PR flack persuades the NASA guy to film a fake version of the mission on a studio set.
Haven’t seen it but that is the gist of it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1896747/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Fly%2520Me%2520to%2520the%2520Moon

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 12, 2024 2:32 PM

thanks. i’m just wondering how much i is to cover for the ” no real ” discussions.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 11, 2024 10:36 AM

Stephen Fry:

For me, the clinching one is that America’s enemy at the time, in the space race, was the Soviet Union. And not once did they make a suggestion that they thought America hadn’t done it.

This is not just stupid, this is boomer stupid!

Unwittingly, he probably got the placebo:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/stephen-fry-covid-vaccine-westminster-abbey-b923282.html

Ort
Ort
Jul 11, 2024 9:54 PM

FWIW, for a long time I shared Fry’s objection– i.e., it seemed obvious in retrospect that Russian space scientists would easily see through the fraud, and that exposing it to the world would be an irresistible coup for the Soviet leaders.

Put slightly differently, I couldn’t imagine any circumstances that would cause the USSR to refrain from exposing the fraud, thereby tacitly colluding with the fraudsters. I can’t affirm that this article presents the truth of the matter, but now I can at least imagine those counter-intuitive circumstances:  Illusory Apollo: the Ultimate Mega Show.  🤔 🚀 🌔 ☭

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 12, 2024 2:13 AM
Reply to  Ort

It was all fake – the Cold War, the arms race, the space race, etc. The Soviets got most of their tech from the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Racey_Jordan

From Major Jordan’s Diary
federalexpression
May 30, 2011
Speech from the 1960s. Major George Racey Jordan was responsible for fascilitating the transfer of American Arms and Technology to the USSR during WWII under the Lend Lease Program. He kept a detailed diary including Primary Source documentation.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 12, 2024 2:18 AM
Reply to  Ort

Thanks for that Ort. An excellent analysis.

illiterate goblin
illiterate goblin
Jul 11, 2024 10:19 AM

The resent manufactured General consensus got England football team into the semi’s and then finals.
The General consensus (on twitter & MSM believed that Southgate format was wrong)
The General consensus got the England manager to change the format and England won.
That is how it has been spun by the twitter & MSM mob.

General consensus is a very dangerous thing.

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Jul 11, 2024 10:08 AM

The moon landings, seen in through the prism of ‘liberal democracy as a civil religion’ is, as Iain points out, a kind of high point of the culture. The religious symbolism alone should tell us enough : man raised to heaven on a plume of fire through the power of technology, to stake his claim upon the celestial orb of the feminine.
What, though about the European civilisation’s low point ? What is the narrative there ? What is the ‘hell’ to the moon landing’s ‘heaven’ ?
Do we take a critical look at that, or stick to the safer (and less consequential) ground ?

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 10:04 AM

?????
How do you know you’re not interacting with AI ?
How do you know The Offguardian mob have not been whisked
off to a ‘quarantine camp’ somewhere – under some pretext –
and AI has taken their place ?

Debunking has long been a propaganda tactic, and recently you
might have read, the authorities are going to weaponise
prebunking… Now why did They want us to know that ?

Tryfon
Tryfon
Jul 11, 2024 9:57 AM

So, electrical & computer engineer here with an MSc in space science from the International Space University, Strasbourg, France and extensive experience in space systems engineering.
The Apollo moon landings where faked and undoubtedly so. There is no way they did it back then, for a number of reasons.
The best analysis of the subject I’ve read is “Wagging the Moondoggie” by Dave McGowan. It is freely available here and is a must read for anyone interested.
Also the documentary “American Moon”, which can be watched for free here.
As for who was the mastermind behind the filming this is quite convincing.

gordan
gordan
Jul 12, 2024 12:59 AM
Reply to  Tryfon

many years ago in the 80s i read something in an old book by a guy called van allen
as in van allen belts in the early 1960s he said water could be used as a shield from radiation
the problem was you would need to get swimming pools into space
heavy lift indeed

so i assume it was decided to steal hundreds of billions and spend a few million on swimm ing pools on the ground places in chile canada and boeing jets doing weightless dives

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 9:46 AM

This angle (“aren’t you glad of all our fake narratives because your life would be so dull without them”) was pushed in the film ‘Interstellar’. It’s also the line in The Beatles’ film ‘Yesterday’. My favourite NASA excuse for why they’ve never gone back is probably the one about needing new space suits. Space is a difficult and dangerous environment, dontcha know? It’s not like they had a working space suit half a century ago that kept every moon-venturing astronaut safe and healthy…. The one attempt to test their space suit in a vacuum chamber had to be stopped when the test subject reported his spittle was boiling. At least one sometimes sees the footage of Armstrong trying to test-land the lunar lander and having to bail out because it was so unstable. They went to the moon and never lost anyone with all these equipment that was never successfully… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 12, 2024 8:22 AM
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Besides sterilising the astronauts’ skin, they also got them to swallow barium sulphate to clear their bowels of all those dangerous microbes. Today, that sounds hilarious. No one can live long or function normally without the symbiotic microbes.

Jos
Jos
Jul 11, 2024 9:33 AM

Doesn’t the footage of the lunar module leaving ‘the moon’ as the camera pans up to follow its trajectory say it all?

Jos
Jos
Jul 11, 2024 9:48 AM
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Simon D
Simon D
Jul 11, 2024 12:59 PM
Reply to  Jos

“Comments are turned off” – LOL.

gordan
gordan
Jul 11, 2024 8:42 PM
Reply to  Jos

space maybe the final fronteir but it was made in the basement of freak actor jared letos
home in the hollywood hills
not far from weird scenes from canyon the laurel canyon valley

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 12, 2024 6:40 PM
Reply to  Jos

Remotely controlled from earth apparently. Third time lucky since it didn’t work in Apollos 15 & 16

https://www.universetoday.com/117331/how-nasa-filmed-humans-last-leaving-the-moon-42-years-ago/

Gerard
Gerard
Jul 11, 2024 9:30 AM

…”Well, we can certainly say there is no evidence to suggest Bill Gates was putting mind-controlling microchips in the jabs.”

SO.., why is it then that the shot contains Luciferase, a bioluminant patented by Bill, and (proven!) to contain a whole lot of self-assembling “nano-tech” ‘pollution’.

Only to be silent on the FACT that the gene-injected people send out bluetooth IP-Mac-adress signals… It can’t have anything to do with the Five-Gee NWO digi-network roll-out, could it?!

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 11, 2024 7:37 AM

Comment just gone pending.

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 7:12 AM

Within a few days reports that the sub-human inmates of the Gazan prison had slaughtered many unarmed, innocent, young Israelis at a Rave Music Festival…
The slaughter provided a perfect incident providing a cover story for, and would
justify, Israel revenging itself on those Gazan sub-human animals…
Instead Israel chose to launch a massive Atrocity Propaganda Campaign, almost
totally made up of lies…
Why didnt Israeli propagandists not use the Rave mass slaughter as their
centerpiece for justification of its revenge slaughter ?
Did they not want to bring attention to what occurred at the Rave ? If so,
Why Not ?

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 8:54 AM
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Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 11, 2024 6:49 AM

Now, now, Mr Davis, you are sounding like an annoying little bright spark at the back of the room, who doesn’t do what teacher tells him to. You clearly don’t enjoy football, or you would have been writing a similar article about how Gareth Southgate is now the greatest football coach in the history of mankind, depite not overcoming a variety of challenges in te past 8 years than millions of unqualified fans pointed out again and again. Nothing we say is true because we called ‘taking the knee’ a load of old cobblers and we pointed out that we didn’t spend good money to watch football only to have black racist bilge forced upon us against our will by a bunch of multimillionaires who had been told that they wouldn’t be allowed to win a tournament unless they become woke. Now they’ve given up on the taking the knee… Read more »

Seth
Seth
Jul 11, 2024 5:16 AM

Thanks, Iain.

Seth
Seth
Jul 11, 2024 8:42 AM
Reply to  Seth

“All that you touch
And all that you see
All that you taste
All you feel
And all that you love
And all that you hate
All you distrust
All you save
And all that you give
And all that you deal
And all that you buy
Beg, borrow or steal
And all you create
And all you destroy
And all that you do
And all that you say
And all that you eat
And everyone you meet (everyone you meet)
And all that you slight
And everyone you fight
And all that is now
And all that is gone
And all that’s to come
And everything under the sun is in tune
But the sun is eclipsed by the moo-oooon”

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 9:07 AM
Reply to  Seth

The engineer on ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ was Alan Parsons who started putting out his own releases under The Alan Parsons Project. One of them was ‘I Robot’, a concept album based on the Asimov novel. The song ‘Breakdown’ appears to be a celebrtaion of liberty with the chorus chanting “Freedom” and “take these walls away”. However the song is presumably from the pov of a robot and the “walls” facing robots in Asimov are his Laws of Robotics which say robots mustn’t harm or disobey humans. Therefore the somg is in reality a creepy call for robots to have the power to harm and disobey humans. The Brookings Institute, an important NWO think-tank, cared enough to put out an article rubbishing Asimov’s Laws: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/isaac-asimovs-laws-of-robotics-are-wrong/ This opened th door to drone warfare. This isn’t to say Asimov was a good guy (just look at his son!) – more likely… Read more »

Raoullo
Raoullo
Jul 11, 2024 3:41 AM

At the time of the Apollo missions, scientists were concerned astronauts would catch nasty bugs on the moon and they had to be quarantined upon their return to Earth. The Telegraph must certainly know that the Apollo spacecraft wasn’t designed to prevent lunar organisms from being exposed to the Earth’s environment. Clearly, the capsule’s cabin had to immediately be opened to let astronauts out, after splashing down in the Pacific Ocean. The air inside the module also had to be vented into the atmosphere as the craft reentered, so that the crew wouldn’t suffer from CO2 poisoning. Could it be that the astronauts caught COVID-19 on the moon and brought it back to Earth? In which case we’re really dealing with COVID-69, and that thing could potentially contaminate the entire solar system and destroy the galaxy–which explains why benevolent scientists refuse to go back there and visit other planets: they just… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 9:12 AM
Reply to  Raoullo

The idea of space viruses was popularised by ‘The Andromeda Strain’ by Michael Crichton.

Hollywood immediately made this into a film – unlike Crichton’s ‘State of Fear’ which allowed for the possibility some of the climate nonsense was fear-based propaganda (Crichton still believed in man-made global warming – the book isn’t that radical). Crichton promptly ended up dead from one of those turbo-cancers.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Jul 11, 2024 3:17 AM

I prefer to refer to myself when discussing events as a conspiracy analyst. I like to point out that over 50% of US federal indictments are for conspiracy to blah blah blah. Those are the real conspiracy theories. Assange pled guilty to a conspiracy theory. I won’t say categorically that no humans visited the moon in the last hundred years, but I would bet the farm on the contention that no humans visited the moon on any Apollo vehicle, or for that matter, any vehicle powered by chemical combustion. IMO, the most valuable and best video analysis of the moon landing theory is titled American Moon by Italian photographer and film maker Massimo Mazzucco. It is available for a free download on the internet, or at least it was a couple of years ago.  American Moon is 3 hours long, and I wouldn’t call it a debunking. Rather it more resembles a trial where you are the jury. Massimo takes the prosecutors… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 11, 2024 7:48 AM
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a scientific and technology idiot
These were people planning and spending money to nuke USSR completely. They nuked the Van Allen “belts” more than once, in part to “blast a hole” through them; the protective region has still not fully recovered.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 11, 2024 7:49 AM
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Reply gone pending.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Jul 11, 2024 3:16 AM

Gus Grissom, Apollo 1. He knew the real story and he was not going to put up with their crap at all. The taped recordings of his frustration as he sat strapped to a tin can on the launch pad only to be incinerated seconds later says much. I suggest you all listen to them.

Moon rocks that are not from the moon.

Nope it’s not about that, it’s about all the idiots that still believe before they can reason anything fro themselves. The truth is the answers are out there, well less than before but they are still there.

The only conspiracy is the one that makes you think theres something wrong with asking simple questions.

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 2:55 AM

Emotional traumas are produced when there is no way out of
emotionally oppressive situations or relationships, that’s why
childhood traumas are common…
The current multi-crisis situation is traumatising and recent elections
show that voting is not a way out of it…
(The New York Times et al are right when they claim “Voting is bad
for democracy” ?)
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/banana-replubicsteria-best-election

“Everything Is Broken.” (1960’s folksinger)…

“Thankfully the Stockholm Syndrome kicks in to make the trauma of
schooling tolerable,” … (anon) …

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 3:06 AM
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les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 3:13 AM
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antonym
antonym
Jul 11, 2024 2:04 AM

On April 12, 1961, Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin became the first human to venture beyond Earth’s atmosphere into space. The achievement rocked the world, sending the U.S. scramble to even the score. Despite never sending a cosmonaut beyond low Earth orbit, the former Soviet Union and Russian Federation have a rich history regarding human spaceflight, contributing a great deal to human space exploration overall, including the Artemis mission. Why did the Soviets never send any men to the Moon? I believe it was not a technical issue but more a strategic decision. Those Van Allen belts can even be avoided over the Poles. Humans on board take up too much weight and volume that can better used for mechanical workers, robots. Common sense over showing off from Moscow. Whether the US suddenly ‘leaped over’ the USSR with men on the Moon becomes more of a timeline and film analysis. The… Read more »

Bored now
Bored now
Jul 11, 2024 9:22 AM
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I thought Vladimir Ilyushin was the first cosmonaut in space?

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jul 11, 2024 2:22 PM
Reply to  antonym

My understanding is that the folks who’d supposedly been disappeared (I forget the names) were cut and pasted INTO photos with Stalin. The touched-up photos were then presented as the Before versions. The original images could then be labelled as After the fiendish manipulation of history.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
Jul 11, 2024 1:27 AM

American Moon proves the moon landings were faked https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-most-important-documentary-ever

How did they charge the Mars Ingenuity helicopter?Batteries do not charge in cold weather…
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/how-did-they-charge-the-mars-ingenuity

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 12:57 AM

‘Germ Theory’ is a Conspiracy Theory – a most pernicious
Conspiracy Theory… No amount of evidence seems able to
debunk it…

(An ideological expression of deep nagging anxiousness.)

Andrew F
Andrew F
Jul 11, 2024 2:44 AM
Reply to  les online

How long will it be without sight nor sound from Julian Assange before it will be an acceptable “conspiracy theory” to ask if he may have been “Skripalled”?

les online
les online
Jul 11, 2024 3:25 AM
Reply to  Andrew F

The local corporate propaganda media (aka – msm) has moved on –
‘Julian Assange’ is yesterday’s “news”… But they’ll revive interest in
‘him’ in tomorrow’s “news” if they consider such serves their
(propaganda) purpose… (‘Julia Assange’ is a media propaganda asset.)…

Andrew F
Andrew F
Jul 11, 2024 11:35 AM
Reply to  les online

And the man himself? Where do people think he is? Why so quiet for a man who always (prior to March 18 2018) had lots to say about everything, and has not said anything in public since – even though he is now “free”, without any conditions?

Here’s a “conspiracy theory”: Under Australia’s various National Security laws, particulalry the “ASIO Act”, he could be held indefinitely incommunicado for questioning without charge and without even necessarily being actually suspected of anything. After all, the last time he was seen in public he was in Canberra, home to the security services.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2024 8:07 PM
Reply to  les online

He is in Australia. Maybe he will be transferred to the complex in Antarctic where also Elvis and Hitler live. I doubt he will issue more books.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 11, 2024 12:18 AM

I wish people would stop believing and start finding out. Pretty much anything our politicians, the oligarch-created organisations, the global corporations and the MSM tell us are lies. We surely have so much evidence for their deceit, outright lies and ill will towards the great masses of human beings that the default position for any thinking human being should be to doubt. And then do your own research.

Big Al
Big Al
Jul 10, 2024 10:27 PM

It is rather humorous to watch the years go by and still no “return” to the moon. When you point out the incongruous nature of such a thing, most people don’t know what to say other than what they’re trained, i.e., to call you names and say you’re a consp. theorist. I can’t wait for another 1000 years to go by and see what they say then.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 11, 2024 9:19 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Their “the moon turned out to be quite dull and valueless” explanation is now contradicted by all the stories about mining outer space for valuable minerals. (I typed “miming” originally by mistake – but it’s accurate!)

It’s all about building up a scarcity narrative so people happily immiserate themselves and their children.

gordan
gordan
Jul 11, 2024 8:46 PM
Reply to  Big Al

on the radio they say to the vaccinated why not leave money in your will to help cure cancer the in joke is they have an actor that sounds like regi kray cockney sounds like a threat
name me 1 charity that stopped because they solved something or cured something : )

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 10, 2024 9:11 PM

Always a treat to read Iain Davis …
For accuracy’s sake, it’s “Capisci”, unless you’re referencing New York Italian immigrants who banded together to get ahead in the New World in the most recognized fashion, in which case, “Capiche” is a slur against the millions who were not “made” … capisci?

Rueben
Rueben
Jul 10, 2024 9:05 PM

In the spirit of heterodoxical contextualization I must ask the OffG community if and why/how they “know” that the moon is a physical object to be visited in the first place? (e.g. that it’s not a plasma phenomenon) I’m not making this argument but I enjoy testing the (true) cognitive autonomy of my fellow narrative dissidents – because, in an effort to sidestep logical hypocrisy … ….the same rationale and logical framing used to decompose this Sesame Street grade Telegraph article applies to the next set of corollary meta-questions can we keep going – to challenge the next set of “facts that remain” after we’ve done our handy work in dispelling and exposing the absurdity of traveling to the moon successfully – on the first attempt – with significantly less processing power than a Blackberry phone? and before people get nervous that I’m walking you into a Flat Earth fun… Read more »

Jos
Jos
Jul 11, 2024 10:45 AM
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I remember watching the moon landings as a 15 year old and not believing it. It felt fake. Now I know it was and with that certainty comes the question of why they would fake it. The obvious answer is that they can’t go there for a reason that they don’t want to tell us about: no space travel is possible. All the sci-fi space travel tv series and films of the 60s and 70s were to programme us to believe whatever fakery they could cobble together to stop us realising that fact. I have no doubt the earth is flat and no doubt we can’t travel into ‘space’ and the more they mock and try to shut down the evidence, the more obvious the lies are. If they let us live long enough to be told the truth, we will be shown the biggest con ever perpetrated on humanity.

ariel
ariel
Jul 11, 2024 12:13 PM
Reply to  Jos

‘The moon is plasma.’ There are several versions of this interview of various lengths and info/detail. There is also one on an airport. All 1965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCNGcbwxWg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIwZuPGfss

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 11, 2024 2:23 PM
Reply to  Rueben

Seems to me that anything beyond first order observation may or may not be reliable. That’s where I start…

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 10, 2024 9:03 PM

Surprisingly Good Match

I was the fullback – Almost identical to Oldham and Barnsley where they fllmed it our Secondary Moderns – We had both Boys and Girls.. What did you have in your Boar
ding School or Convent?

“Kes- football match with the childish P.E. teacher”

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 10, 2024 7:40 PM

Iain Davis – Confess?. I have bought your book…How did you find out all that, and write it all in Book – Structured like an Encyclopdeia after getting bits of it – published – on OffG and appearing on TV?having a complete rational argument with the bloke with a camera (live) – and also get the sound right – dressed as a Biker from Blackpool. That is Class – Even The Presentation Skills… Psuedopandemic: New Normal Technocracy Paperback – 21 Jun. 2021 by Iain Davis (Author) I bought this its brilliant Center of an Informed America blog was state of the art – way ahead of its time. I think Dave McGowan even wrote the raw html himself…. I bet you read everything he wrote too. I thought Dave McGowan – not only a nice bloke – but total genius. I was very sad when he died…His daughter reconstructed his… Read more »