Stabbings to Show Trials: 9 Simple Steps to Criminalize Free Speech
Take away your peoples' right to free expression, and watch them thank you for it.
Kit Knightly
In the wake of the Southport attack and ensuing riots, we wrote that the agenda had become clear – it was about attacking free speech.
Little did we suspect how quickly they would move, and how brazenly authoritarian they would become, culminating in quite literal show trials for facebook posts:
All while the so-called “liberals” are applauding and spouting phrases they don’t realise they’ve been hypnotised into believing through endless repetition.
“Tolerating intolerance just leads to more intolerance in the end.”
“Free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences”
“It was never an absolute right”
If it wasn’t obvious from the outset, it’s quite clear now that this entire situation has been a contrivance.
As it turns out it was a masterfully played hand that has perfectly set up the template for other governments who may want to crackdown on free expression in the future.
- Violent Incident – A terrorist attack, bomb threat, violent murder or some such hits the headlines. The incident can be real or staged, it makes no difference.
- Push “Misinformation” – Publish an intentionally falsifiable narrative of the above via anonymous accounts or non-mainstream sources, and use bots and shills to spread this “fake news”.
- Foment violence – Again using sock puppets and your bought-and-paid-for “alternative voices”, encourage disorder. Use undercover agents on the ground to direct and gradually inflame this situation until it becomes violent.
- Debunk “Misinformation” – Release the “real story” of the inciting incident, contradicting the initial “misinformation” you deliberately seeded (see #2).
- Blame Social Media – Through your controlled media, broadcast the idea that social media “amplified” the original “misinformation” (that you planted) and it is therefore to blame for the violence.
- Arrests – Begin arresting people for online comments (again, these can be real or fake, it makes no difference), but ensure the comments are unpleasant or stupid enough most people won’t defend them.
- Show trials and sentencing – Sentence people to prison for posting jokes and opinions on social media. Whether this is performed or actual, the desired effect will be the same.
- Legislation – Push through new legislation on hate speech etc. (or, in the UK’s case prepare to “revisit” legislation passed last year).
- Enjoy your precedent – Bathe in the adoration of people who should know better, enjoy your precedent and be ready to re-use it whenever you want.
That’s the base plan. You can tweak it to add specifics to suit your agenda, for example, today in the UK they are trying rehabilitate the reputation of the police, attempting to rebrand them as “those brave boys who faced down the far-right”, rather then “those tools of the state who locked us down for no reason”.
But the great thing about this template is it can be adapted for any situation, all you need to do is plan the attack and riots accordingly.
Right now the UK has a new “Labour” government, eager to prove its “leftist” bona fides, so the stoked unrest was anti-immigration protests, allowing for a clamp down on the “far-right”.
Next time, in the US, maybe a cop allegedly shoots a black suspect who is reportedly unarmed, sparking BLM riots – but oh no, it turns out the cop was black too and the suspect WAS armed, “leaked” CCTV proves it.
Cue arrests of “far-left” BLM supporters calling for attacks on police or tweeting “All Cops Are Bastards” or anyone who spread the “misinformation” that the suspect was unarmed.
…you get the idea.
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As is the way of things in the modern media landscape, even the opposition to the crackdown is heavily controlled, with a fake binary set-up between Starmer’s government and Elon Musk’s X.
An authoritarian globalist stooge or an oligarch military contractor. Do you think either of them is on our side?
Twitter/X is no bastion of free speech, and labelling it thus is just a way of controlling dissent….but we’ll talk about that more next time.
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the difference between them and us is they are organized, armed, in charge of the technology and they own and can use the media.
Presumably, then, the following events are entirely unconnected?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13776651/ISIS-Germany-festival-knife-terror-attack.html
ISIS claims responsibility for Germany terror attack which killed three people after knifeman ‘said ‘I’m going to stab everyone” before ‘targeting victims’ necks’
By Dan Woodland and Sabrina Penty
Published: 19:43, 24 August 2024 | Updated: 00:44, 25 August 2024
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13777625/Israel-launches-pre-emptive-air-strikes-against-Hezbollah-Lebanon.html
Israel launches ‘pre-emptive’ air strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon amid plans for large-scale attack: Netanyahu vows ‘whoever harms us, we harm them’ as region teeters on the brink of all-out war
By Arthur Parashar
Published: 07:33, 25 August 2024 | Updated: 07:42, 25 August 2024
Perfect summation of the current authoritarian UK state. People rush to blame Starmer, and they are correct to do so.
But.
The legislation he has zealously activated was put in place, tip toe, bit by bit, by previous Tory governments. The social and identity politicising of the police and judiciary were, again, gradually evolved to the current Orwellian level by Tory governments.
All ready for this latest incarnation of the Uniparty that we all all now already suffering from.
As you rightly say, the so called liberals and ‘socialists’ are ecstatic, blindly assuming this only affects their political opponents.
George Orwell was correct apart from the date..
Orwell was from the same uni party
brilliant piece, Kit. you nailed it perfectly
`The subtitle of this article above reminds me of a memorable one by the late Joe Bageant from 15 years ago on the “healthcare fracas” of that year:
“The Entertainment Value of Snuffing Grandma: ~ a nation of children roots for the Mafia”
I don’t want to get myself into trouble re Southport (a place I know well), nor Sailintg(only limited experience) nor Coincidences of Very Rich British people found innocent of Fraud in the USA….both dead within a few days – Coincidences do happen…
I have however spent 2 hours this afternoon watching and listening to James Delingpole and Mike Yeadon re an interview in June, with very high quality and sound, which nearly changed my mind (at least I am thinking about it) that virus’s do not exist.
I wasn’t expecting this. I suggest you watch all it. Not just the bit about ivermectin – highly toxic from Team A “Ivermectin is “one of the most violent anti fertility toxins I’ve ever come across” – Dr Mike Yeadon
It was pushed on us jab refusers, as it’s a tool for genocide.
Always keep your wits about you, and beware cures for diseases that don’t exist”
Delingpole is Good, Yeadon is Brilliant
https://rumble.com/v5ba9jx-delingpod-live-mike-yeadon.html
The “assassination attempt” on Trump fits perfectly in your template. Thanks.
I await the template’s playout at the DemoNatConvention later this week. A staged event most likely.
I try to follow whatsup in UK but I can barely keep up w US and Canada! 💖
Twitter is no ‘bastion of free speech’, so endless globalist attempts to close it down must be illusory. Knightly’s claim makes little sense. Looks like he’s protecting a precious narrative against reason and evidence.
digital id so you can have the blue tick and pay 160$ for the pleasure.
At least there are now some people calling out Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of Blood” speech as a psyop.
https://delingpole.substack.com/p/rivers-of-blood-first-they-showed
Rivers of Blood: First They Showed Us Our Future; Then the Gaslighting Began…
James Delingpole
Aug 16, 2024
The ‘Rivers of Blood’ psyop was a key element in [a] brainwashing programme. . . . In order to achieve [their] goal, the Powers That Be first had to fake up the outrage and drama surrounding Powell’s speech, in much the same way that their modern equivalents did recently over those three children allegedly murdered by an immigrant in Southport. The corrupt media played a major part in this: so, for example, the Times – edited by the ineffably rank and compromised Cabal lackey William Rees Mogg – did its bit with an editorial declaring it ‘an evil speech’ and saying ‘This is the first time that a serious British politician has appealed to racial hatred in this direct way in our postwar history.’ And the tabloids did theirs by bigging up the supposed increase in racial hate incidents which had allegedly resulted from Powell’s speech.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech
The “Rivers of Blood” speech was made by British Member of Parliament (MP) Enoch Powell on 20 April 1968, to a meeting of the Conservative Political Centre in Birmingham, England. His speech made various remarks, which included strong criticism of significant Commonwealth immigration to the United Kingdom and the proposed Race Relations Act, which made it illegal to refuse housing, employment, or public services to a person on the grounds of colour, race, ethnic or national origins in the country. It became known as the “Rivers of Blood” speech, although Powell always referred to it as “the Birmingham speech”. The former name alludes to a prophecy from Virgil’s Aeneid which Powell (a classical scholar) quoted:
As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood’.[1]
The speech caused a political storm, making Powell one of the most talked about and divisive politicians in the country; it led to his controversial dismissal from the Shadow Cabinet by Conservative Party Leader Edward Heath.[2] According to most accounts, the popularity of Powell’s perspective on immigration may have been a decisive factor in the Conservatives’ surprise victory in the 1970 general election, although he became one of the most persistent opponents of the subsequent Heath ministry.[2][3]
The Gallup Organization took an opinion poll at the end of April and found that 74 per cent agreed with what Powell had said in his speech;[26][27] 15 per cent disagreed. 69 per cent felt Heath was wrong to sack Powell and 20 per cent believed Heath was right. Before his speech Powell was favoured to replace Heath as Conservative leader by one per cent, with Reginald Maudling favoured by 20 per cent; after his speech 24 per cent favoured Powell and 18 per cent Maudling. 83 per cent now felt immigration should be restricted (75 per cent before the speech) and 65 per cent favoured anti-discrimination legislation.[28] According to George L. Bernstein, the speech made the British people think that Powell “was the first British politician who was actually listening to them”.[29]
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Enoch Powell Responds to Being Called A Racist
The Dick Cavett Show
Jan 11, 2021
Live from London, British politician Enoch Powell responds to reports that claim him to be a racist.
Date aired – May 14th, 1971 – Enoch Powell and Jonathan Miller
The globalist agenda to destroy national identity and the nation state has been a long time in planning. For instance, the differences between Lennon’s “Imagine” and Arthur Jensen’s “there are no nations” are only presentational.
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechnetwork4.html
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality — one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.
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Yes, let’s imagine that big house being shared by several migrant families and the grounds being compulsory purchased for low-income housing!
Several migrant families, only? The housing I saw in the barrios on the west side of Long Beach, CA, John and Yoko_s spread there would house a village of migrants.
I met one pious family there, Mexican immigrantes, 40 were living in a smallish studio 20x20ft, sleeping in shifts, 8 hours for each group of 12, enough time to cleanup and sleep, then off you go to work. It was adequate.
But I am far from judging John & Yoko by conventional measures. They each had unique profiles. He was quite young, just starting to figure it all out. I have come more and more to give him huge props.
His arrow was always pointing up, no doubt why the 4th Reich took him out.
No sweat, there’s always Heaven to finish a good work, onc well begun.
History demonstrates a systematic and clear response to governments that ignore the will of the people and employs the judicial system and law enforcement mechanisms not to maintain law and order but to suppress the will of the people and to keep them servile through intimidation and fear. The end result is not in question, the only question is how long it takes. The amount of blood shed will depend upon many factors, but the elites always pay, the only question is it a trickle or will the streets drown in blood. I think a review of Kipling might be in order for these young apparatchiks.
Well, too true, it’s just that the old frameworks have been expanded so, almost exploded. Many hats are being changed, and it proceeds into our living rooms following the dictates of military strategy and stratagems.
Seeing it from that perspective explains all the bizarre recent tectonic shifts in ideologies, in the small, such as rightist stances suddenly embracing what were once strictly democratic goal agendas, and often just as much vice versa.
Rather than really critiquing any, I have just thought that all bets are off.
I would add “until the dust settles” but it won’t.
I accept that most everything is being weaponized on certain levels, so I think I’ll just mosey on over to another level…. when it’s an option!
How can we be certain the off-guardian isn’t infiltrated, or even set up by cops ?
By keeping a finger to the wind? [And discreetly not as half a peace sign.]
An unsettling landscape, as far as the eye can see, but with real ops for growth. That’s what gives these times and travels an exhilarating savor, if youre sure to pack a sense of humour, no matter what.
“Don’t leave home without it.”
Try reading what it publishes.
Well that’s a good comeback, but it’s no longer enough, in and of itself.
Anywhere.
“Viewer discretion advised.“
How can we be certain as to whether you are just incredibly naïve, as regards Submission.Programming.Warring. factions & fractions of 77 guises infiltrating these columns, routinely , or an Agent Provocateur for Globo-cop, aligned with Intel & HQ-TEL Aviv 😂 WPP & OMNICOMMS. Controllers, like PR King Preston Rabl ?
What a baited question Moshe ! I’ll nibble , so which “cops”, seriously ?
FYI: howsoever you respond, your response will be Profiled.
How’s the Weather Forecast quality been recently, where you live ?
Rather than talking jibberish, can you speak plain English ?
Weather Forecast Quality & which “Cops” ?
you saying there mossad connected.?
or Cia or Mi6..?
or all.
Most of the alt media is Military intelligence outfit connected.
Could be worse they could be selling Viagra and end of the world Armageddon food pollinates packs..
Most? More like 99% Well, virtually all closely surveilled and fed to AI.
these show trials are illegitimate
there’s also some evidence that many of the ‘trialists’ have history in the covid pandemic actors guild
is any any of this real?
where were the defence lawyers?
where were the juries?
starmer thinks he’s stalin
watch him when he speaks, he’s full of fear and angst
what have they got on him?
this is communitarianism without doubt
Why has there not been a trial for Ricky Jones as yet or would such a thing send the wrong message.
He has been remanded in custody for a preparation hearing set for the 6th September.
You say
And what message would that be – that the institutionally racist Police are somehow soft on blacks?
Aston Walker BCU Steamhouse researcher and convicted 2011 riot looter Shia Sunni riots 2024 analysis – https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382887039_UK_RIOTS_2024_SATANIC_SUNNI_SHIA_OF_ABU_BAKR_AND_UMAR_AND_AISHA_AND_THEIR_PROPHET_MURDERING_ARAB_COLONISER_RACIST_ENSLAVEMENT_RAPE_AND_CASTRATION_OF_BLACK_AFRICA/comments
From the article:
The above is unlikely to happen so long as the left and far-left continue to be the enablers and useful idiots for the globalist narratives and agendas.
Climate change, equality, SDGs and the wooly, feel good wording of Agenda 21/2030 appeal to the young and ideological leftist brains of the sheeple who through decades of Marxist/Leninist indoctrination in schools, colleges and universities have come to believe and accept it as gospel. This indoctrination would not happen by chance as Yuri Bezmenov warned in 1980’s.The education system was the target.
“You will own nothing….” would not work from a right wing perspective. Hence, the need to demonize anyone who does not agree with the Establishment agendas by using derogatory terms such as ‘far-right’ or ‘climate denier’.
The MSM never uses the term ‘far-left’ anymore as far as I am aware. It has been dropped from the lexicon, since it nows serves the controllers interests.
When the plan involves stealing people’s assets including their homes, pensions and life savings, it is better to get the people to give these things up voluntarily through coercion for the ‘greater good’ (used during the Plandemic too) and to also use those ‘tools’ who are ideologically far-left, who resent their fellow citizens who own anything, to help the process along.
Another Pseudo-Event
Piers Corbyn was NOT prosecuted for the public incitement to “burn down MP’s offices”. Moreover, the release of the video was timed by the Home Secretary (Priti Patel) so as to smear anti-lockdown protests. That is, the video was recorded on Wednesday 15 Dec 2021, but released on Saturday evening!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Corbyn
Corbyn attended another large demonstration against the UK government’s proposed COVID restrictions on 18 December 2021 in Parliament Square. There, he featured in another music video, this time alongside rapper Remeece, in which they walk through crowds of protestors whilst repeatedly calling for viewers to refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.[111] In a later speech at the demonstration, Corbyn’s comments on these proposals to enforce guidelines to combat the spread of the Omicron variant of the virus were met with widespread backlash. He had urged the crowd “to hammer to death those scum, those scum who have decided to go ahead with introducing new fascism”, as well as suggesting that the offices of MPs who had voted for the restrictions should be burned down. Home Secretary Priti Patel responded to online footage of Corbyn’s speech, describing it as “sickening” and called for the police to take action against him.[112] On 19 December, Corbyn was arrested for his comments.[2][113]
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The first tweet is dated Dec 15 (Wednesday); so Corbyn’s speech wasn’t at the Saturday protest as reported (implied) by Priti Patel, the Daily Mail, Guardian, etc.
https://twitter.com/DazeJohnby/status/1471179169006596100
6:03 PM · Dec 15, 2021
Piers corbyn here asking people to burn down mps offices, why is this man allowed on our streets. @metpolice @kierstarmer @jeremycorbyn @BorisJohnson @pritipatel lock this man up fgs
[Video clip: 2:09]
https://twitter.com/pritipatel/status/1472314280754176004
9:14 PM · Dec 18, 2021
The Piers Corbyn video is sickening.
I back the police to take the strongest possible action against him.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10325319/Priti-Patel-says-police-investigate-Piers-Corbyn-kill-MPs-comments.html
Piers Corbyn is arrested after telling anti-vax mob to ‘hammer to death’ MPs and ‘burn down their offices’ in shocking video from London lockdown protests – just weeks after David Amess was stabbed to death
Hundreds of anti-vaccine demonstrators congregated around Whitehall, Downing Street and Westminster
A group called Together Declaration claimed responsibility for Saturday’s protest against vaccine passports
Some of the demonstrators were involved in scuffles with police officers, who reported ‘minor injuries’
Home Secretary Priti Patel has meanwhile urged police to take action against Piers Corbyn, 74
The conspiracy theorist told anti-vaxxer supporters ‘hammer to death those scum’, referring to MPs who voted for vaccine passports, comparing the law to ‘new Fascism’
By Darren Boyle and William Cole For Mailonline
Published: 01:48, 19 December 2021 | Updated: 02:02, 20 December 2021
Ms Patel last night urged police to take ‘the strongest possible action’ against Mr Corbyn.
Caption: After the footage sparked fury on Twitter last night, Ms Patel tweeted: ‘The Piers Corbyn video is sickening. I back the police to take the strongest possible action against him’
Does anyone else get the feeling that Piers is working for the state, or is he just unwittingly making anyone who questions things look stupid ?
I sometimes wonder about Piers. Is he a little naïve or is he part of something more?
Another example being the sting operation filmed by those two pranker Hooray Henrys who pretended to be Astra Zeneca shareholders in order to ‘bribe’ Piers with what he thought was £10,000 to not criticise the AZ’s jab. The money turned out to be Monopoly money anyway.
The publicity in the aftermath would have damaged the freedom/truth movement and may have caused some people to dismiss Pier’s warnings about the safety of the jabs.
Piers ‘state asset’ Corbyn. Both him and his brother are – notice how for all his brothers supposed progressiveness, he stay loyal to the Labour Party.
Both Piers and Jeremy are state assets.
evidence for Jeremy !
What are you asking for evidence of ?
Are you the poster, Labour Party is dead en ?
Hugo Talks discusses the real protest, here:
https://hugotalks.com/2021/12/18/huge-turnout-london-protest-real-report-unlike-fake-gb-news-hugo-talks-lockdown
In addition to examining some media coverage (GB News) he also discusses the staged agitation outside Downing Street. This can be seen here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/R0j7RwI22W9G
At 25 secs into the Downing Street video we see the lamppost which Corbyn stands next to when giving his speech. The tree momentarily comes into the shot a second later. Presumably, Corbyn and the camera person were given permission by the police to stand in that spot; being right outside the entrance to Downing Street. The main road is clearly open while Corbyn gives his speech (a bus is going past) and there can be no more than a handful of people standing on the pavement.
Conclusion: the Downing Street incidents were staged for the cameras.
They have been caught red-handed colluding to smear “our side” – senior politicians (Tories and Labour), the police, and the corporate media. Would somebody please explain why this has not gone viral?
Conclusion: There is no “our side”!
This is another one which would have gone viral had there been an “our side”; and which I’ve also posted several times before.
NYC Police torched their own vehicle!
Jun 4, 2020
879 views
Raw footage by Lincoln Karim
tommy stone the crows cockles robinson richi sunak a very queer starmer margaret thatcher ted heath tory blair and gordon browns bottom rabbi jack straw david i will do anything for a dollar lammy all work for the same firm the synagogue of satan back stopped by the mossadicks and the chabad
Quite a tongue-twister!
Just say it all rapidly ten times for therapy. It’ll get better.
Rowan Atkinson (“Mr Bean”) on the Right to Free Speech
Alas, people like him know better than to run for election.
Problem reaction solution.
Sheep will be lining up soon for MPox jab.
Hard to believe an billionaire trillionaire who works and runs 100000000 different company’s
travels the world meeting some of the most important people in the most security zones
can twit all day constantly.
He probably comments whilst on the toilet, like you do.
He must spend a lot of time on the shitter.
Good one, Pa.
Easy. Just add a Twitter person to your staff, to convey your wondrous thoughts to the world. The other staff member traveling with you conveys the messages to the former.
< Nearly 6.5 million refugees from Ukraine have been recorded globally (as of February 2024) >
Many of them fled to Russia. Where did the rest flee? And why are these riots and protests only against Muslims?
I smell Anglo Zio-Nazi Capitalism at work.
Perhaps you would enjoy living in a muslim country
Strangely enough, people aren’t lining up, breaking laws and risking their lives to go to those countries; I wonder why? For some reason, the traffic only runs one way.
There are cogs whirring !!
Yeah why don’t people want to go to Gaza? It’s a mystery!
Rest assured. After Israel has finished “mowing the grass” in Gaza, the remnants will find their way to our Western countries, and Boy!, won’t they be grateful to be here!
Jesus! You really typed that? These Palestinians are being slaughtered and what worries you is what they might do to us if they have the temerity to set foot in our wondrous Western land where their biggest crime is to show insufficient gratitude for how we “improved” them?
All of which confirms my suspicion that this Islamophobia is truly a mask for the old viciously arrogant imperialist supremacism. The inner core of the West is Nazism.
Can’t believe you just suggested Islamophobia (groovy name, bro) is on a par with Nazism. How do you feel about antisemitism? Perhaps that is an ungroovy manifestation of western imperialism and it is a cover for zionist oppression? Perhaps the real (German) Nazis never met with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to discuss combatting zionism…or was it simply to push what the imperialist supremacists now call antisemitism? Hitler simply an anti-zionist, perhaps.
You mean the British appointed Grand Mufti. Get it right.
There is no such thing as “Islamophobia.” It’s a weapon word, designed to let self-hating non-Muslims bludgeon themselves to death with.
There is, however, survival, the First Law of Nature. Do you suggest that we of the West immolate ourselves because of the choices imposed upon us by our ownership class/rulers?
Here’s a dilemma: I don’t support what Israel is doing in Gaza, nor our government’s support of it. I’ve never supported any of our shenanigans throughout the Muslim world, most of which were unjustifiable, or overkill. Neither do I support bringing hordes of Muslims into our countries, especially ones that are justly angry and objectively wronged. I have a great deal of sympathy for them, but their ways are not our ways, and I make no apologies for preferring the ways of my own people/s and culture, however imperfect they may be. There must be other ways of making amends to them.
Islam takes a back seat to no one in terms of “viciously arrogant imperialist supremacism”; it’s been aggressively expansionist since its inception. As for the “inner core of the West being ‘Nazism,'” I’d offer Altruism as a more accurate descriptor. It — at least the pathological variety — would explain the short-sighted, self-destructive, suicidal behaviors regarding immigration and multiculturalism the Western countries have been engaging in, things no genuine “Nazi” country would countenance for an instant. Indeed, no healthy country would countenance them.
likewise it is getting hotter for the khazharian ashkanazim the followers of sabbattai zvi and jacob frank moshiec moloch baal baphomet
oded yinon new khazharia projects are rotting and being burned away day by day
Not really. Gazans, and Palestinians in general, would much rather live in their homeland – Palestine.
They will. I hear the real estate market there is booming.
I’ve actually backpacked through some of those countries 40 years ago before I knew anything about them.
Without exception, the low points on my travels.
Follow the money. Now that China has become rich again, Chinese-Americans are returning to “the mother country”.
If England were to become rich again, many Anglo-Americans would line up for A Passage to England.
I don’t see England ever becoming “rich again”. It likely goes one of two ways: 1) It ceases to be “England” in a religious, ethnic, and cultural way and sinks to a lower position globally than Spain, Portugal or Greece, or 2) is destroyed by Russia.
It’s not that England isn’t rich. It’s that those who own the wealth don’t share it out.
The crown and the city of London hold huge wealth.
Yeh, funny that because some of the countries the West has bombed, invaded and looted in the last 20 years or so are Muslim too.
I do. I live in a country that has mainly Muslims and Jews, with a fair amount of Christians, Agnostics.and Atheists. Its modern name is Israel; for 2000 years before that it was called The Holy Land — and will be so again. It has always been called Palestine. And I count Muslims, Jews, Christians and a Buddhist nun among the people here whose friendship I enjoy.
What I do not enjoy is the way British and U$ Capitalists are constantly starting oil wars in the Middle East, flooding the Holy Land with weapons and encouraging an ongoing (year long) genocide of Muslims and Christians by the current Zio-nazi regime in Israel.
The Koran never mentions Palestine; it does name Israel many times though.
Ok, meanwhile actual historical writers, like Herodotus, talked about a Palestine. Josephus and Jesus were Palestinian Jews, not an Israelis. Palestine is a broad and inclusive geographic descriptor, while Israel is narrow, exclusive and tribal.
The Qur’aan refers to the land of Shaam, Palestine and Masjid al Aqsa, as “Holy Land”, “blessed land,” and a land “blessed for the nations”
As for Israel is mentioned many times you really mean Bani Israel is mentioned in the Qur’aan.
‘Bani’ means ‘descendants’ in Arabic, while ‘Israel’ is a name or title given to Prophet Ya’qub (Jacob) Israel meaning bound to Allah by covenant.
So the children of Jacob are mentioned not the land of Israel. But i am sure you really know that?
https://youtu.be/60voY2Qn0lk
What, like England?
There might be something to this:
The Hidden Forces Behind the UK Race Riots
Once again, OffG is stuck within a highly simplistic binary of “them and us”. That Starmer and Musk are part of a unified, singular, monolithic “them” (the 1%); and all the plebs of the world form an equally monolithic “our side” or “us” (the 99%). If only the “us” side were to all stand up together and overturn the table on the monopoly-playing “them”, humanity would finally be free.
If you actually believe this “them and us” binary to be valid (i.e. a “true binary”), please state your position explicitly. For instance, who are you referring to with the pronoun “our”? Alternatively, the “99%” idea should be seen as manufactured psyop.
No, there are multiple agendas from several centres of power; and “attacking free speech” is only part of it!
Pretty much spot on. Knightly and the other people who set the tone on this website really do need to state what they actually believe.
At the moment nearly every regular contributor on here is playing, consciously or unconsciously, a sort of game of “ding dong ditch”. On the one hand, they are constantly declaring to their readers that “nothing is real” – or, as Knightly puts it in this article, that “an incident can be real or staged, it makes no difference”. On the other, it’s clear to anyone who reads their articles regularly that there are plenty of things that Knightly and co. unquestioningly assume are real. You will not find a single article printed in OffGuardian in the past year that has questioned a single detail of the Hamas/Al Jazeera narrative regarding dead children in the Gaza Strip and so on.
I can certainly sympathize with Knightly’s super-sceptical attitude. 2020-22 was a turning point in human history because it showed how a “reality” could be manufactured ex nihilo and actually become reality for the overwhelming majority not just of a national but of the global population. And OffGuardian was absolutely impeccable during that period and on that issue. Articles by Knightly and Catte Black stood out from almost everything else that was produced by the “anti-lockdown” movement in insisting on this one crucial fact about what was happening: that the thing was indeed being invented ex nihilo; that it wasn’t a matter of “exaggerating” or “not letting a good crisis go to waste” but rather a matter of making hundreds of millions of people believe in something for the existence of which absolutely no evidence existed.
Sadly, it’s been pretty much downhill for OffGuardian ever since 2022. Since all the core OffGuardian people came from a background on the left (they were, after all, frustrated Guardian readers) they have had enormous difficulty giving up the articles of leftist faith they lived by for years. People as acute as them should have noticed long ago that these articles of leftist faith are now effectively one and the same with the articles of faith of globalist tyranny: “we are all equal…” (“…and therefore all exchangeable”); “no human being is illegal…” (“and therefore the parachuting of the entire population of Nigeria into the small island of Britain is nothing that any reasonable or decent person can object to”). But I suppose there is a vanity and anxiety in human beings that makes it difficult to recognize the falsity, indeed the effective evil, of the beliefs that had made up one’s very identity and personality for so long. The saddest thing is that the genuine process of enlightenment and awakening that people like Knightly went through during the years of the COVID imposture has been seized upon by this vain and anxious part of their personalities as a way of lulling themselves into a deeper sleep, and even fonder, more childish dreams, as regards all those progressive-liberal convictions of theirs that don’t directly relate to COVID. From the point of view of most OffGuardian writers and readers the “pandemic years” demonstration of how hard it is to know what is real or not has served above all to halt the process of debunking and disintegration that their precious progressive-humanist beliefs had been undergoing for thirty or forty years. To borrow the example with which Knightly unintentionally “shows his political hand” here:
We can’t believe the “mainstream” narrative that a black man shot by an American policeman was an armed and dangerous gang-member…it’s likely just a “psy op” pursuing a “hidden agenda”…But fortunately for us we can’t believe the narrative that he was armed and dangerous either…That too is likely a “psy op” that promotes the same “hidden agenda” in a different way….So, given that no “facts” are to be trusted on either side why don’t we just stick to the set of standard left-liberal-progressive beliefs we held back when we were Guardian-readers and assume that “all human beings are equal”, that a young negro recently released from prison and driving a pimp-mobile is likely as decent a person as – indeed likely a better person than – a young white man pursuing a career in law enforcement and so on and so on.
But no, Mr Knightly. Even after all we’ve learned from the “pandemic” hoax about the limits, or lack thereof, human deceit, some things are still real and other things are not real. The three little girls who were killed in Southport really were killed, and the several others who were scarred for life really were scarred for life. And the man who killed and scarred them really did not belong to this country, regardless of what some piece of paper he was issued might say. And it does make a difference whether we say that these things were “staged” or whether we accept them as having really occurred. For you to claim that it doesn’t betrays an attitude toward the people are being sentenced, daily, right now to long prison sentences – who, for all their flaws, are “the heroes we have” when it comes to an actual fightback against globalism – that is hard to distinguish from the attitude taken to them by a Starmer.
Your analogy with BlackLIvesMatter collapses because – once again even after all we’ve learned about the difficulty of telling the difference between fake and reality since the “pandemic” hoax – BlackLivesMatter isn’t and was never real. Every one of the “new generation of Medgar Everses and Rosa Parks” that BLM has tried to create has indeed been instantly glaringly exposed as a dangerous thug whose death was more than amply justified.
I know that you do not believe this, Mr Knightly. The false reality that you have chosen to live by all your life has surely been the false reality that people with darker skin than you are saints and eternal victims. I too doubtless have my false reality. But I think I can make a very good case that your false reality bears a strikingly greater resemblance to the false reality being pushed by our schools, our media, our governments – or government – all over the globe than mine does. So what side does that put you on?
It is considered offensive by ‘left’ and ‘right’ alike to call black people ‘negroes’ and has been for years, as you doubtless know. If you consider this a further example of ‘progressive-liberal values’ by ‘frustrated guardian readers’ then so be it, but I think striking such an attitude would make you look out of touch and rather undermine your point (more so than you have already). I doubt you’d use such a phrase in front of any person of colour, old or young, big or small, therefore don’t use it here. You’re tipping your own hand, and it’s not a good look. That’s the last time I’ll warn you about that. Any quibbling or further use of that phrase I’ll bin. Make your criticisms, sure, but use appropriate language. It’s basic stuff. A2
has this reply been factchecked?
As you doubtless know, the obsession with alleged perceived meanings of words stripped of any context of usage in every single case is the stuff of totalitarian speech-policing.
Nothing the commenter said was actually racist. They may indeed be a racist for all I know; they just didn’t say anything racist. Apparently, people like you would call my mother racist because she says the word negro without any moral implications whatsoever, simply because that is something she has grown up with being normal. I guess I just became a racist, too.
Hiding behind “other people think” is just refusing to argue your position based on any principles of your own; Yet, there you are, threatening the banhammer. Why no proper explanation? Also, your claiming to be concerned on the commenter’s behalf about how they will be perceived seems highly disingenuous, IMO.
While we’re on the subject of your anal tone-policing, would you mind explaining why you are banning my posts (I am 99% sure it was you) just because I call someone a moderately naughty word, while clearly stating as my reason that he falsely accuses me of ad hominem arguments as an excuse to avoid my quite serious questions, and also asking him to cite a single specific example? Apparently, this is not allowed by you and incurs immediate banhammer.
Meanwhile, adjacently, someone else is calling me and others a certain objectively worse and more insulting word without any kind warnings from you to be found. I guess some people are just more equal than others, huh?
It’s not tone policing bringing people up to speed on basic acceptable English. Don’t like social norms, go elsewhere and say/do as you please. Not here though. If you’d skipped lecturing me and telling me my job maybe I’d be better disposed, but hell I’m just petty and human, and frankly i don’t give the slightest fuck about troubleshooting your problem. Make do or get lost. Either is fine with me. A2
Sam, Martin Luther King was fine with that “n” word you seem to think is unacceptable. I wonder what happened in the meantime. Oh, I see. Social norms changed. Actually, back in the day, my granny took a Starmanesque attitude to the “f” word that floats so easily off your keyboard, and would have boxed my ears if I’d used it in the house. But again, social norms have changed, and cussing is now perfectly acceptable in public and in print.
Moderate other people’s comments all you want. I’m sure you will eventually get precisely the sort of commentariat you are happy with, like a gardener who prunes their shrubbery eventually gets a well-pruned shrubbery.
I personally wouldn’t use any word that upsets other people because I was raised in a more reasonable, polite, amiable and less oversensitive era, and that includes words beginning with “n” or with “f”. If at a loss for words as a result, I prefer instead to make humming noises.
But I will make one prediction: Whatever words are acceptable to describe non-Caucasians these days will be considered anathema in Oceania within twenty years. Someone will be offended. And the progressive woke Borg will declare these words unacceptable and come up with new ones, as his been the case for the past couple of hundred years. So, please enjoy mandating the current version of Newspeak while you can.
“Scott Ritter Exposes NATO’s Plot to invade Russia!
EU$A Proxy Army Wiped out in Kursk”
https://youtu.be/1Q9Gfkp4Wp0?si=6BaTPIdMbqW3EQLV
It’s deja vue — with a difference:
1943 The Nazi Army invades Kursk and gets chewed up by the Russian bear. Next stop for the Russian Army, Kiev. And after that, Berlin.
2024 NATZO’s proxy Ukro-Nazi Army invades Kursk and gets chewed up by the bear. Next stop Berlin?
No, this time the Russians will stop at Kiev. They know that they got no thanks for liberating Eastern Europe from under the Jackboot of Fascism in the 1940s. So they surely would get no thanks for liberating the EU$A from under the Iron Heel of Anglo Zio-nazi Capitalism in the 2020s.
The problem is that Anglo Zio- nazi Capitalism are determined to destroy Russia as the West has been attempting to do for nearly a millennium and will not stop even if it invokes WWIII. The reasons are manyfold, however, one of the main drivers is the immense resources of the Russian Federation plus the insatiable greed of Anglo Zio – nazi capitalism.
What they are doing in Ukraine, would be repeated, if they won this conflict , in the Ukraine.
Alexander Soros, son of the infamous American financier George Soros, reportedly agreed with Ukrainian officials to allocate 400 square kilometers of Ukrainian land for the disposal of hazardous chemical waste.
The deal between Alexander Soros and the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andrei Ermak was reported by French journalist Jules Vincennes, who cited data from an anonymous source from the Ministry of Agriculture of Ukraine. The agreement was reportedly reached at the meeting held on November 7.
Kiev Sold Ukrainian Land For Disposal Of Hazardous Chemical Waste Of US Companies – ReportSouth Front
Ukraine farmland, and its grain production that fed the world, is now owned by mega-corporations based in the US and EU, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management. Several large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country.
Ukraine Grain Is Owned by Vanguard, Goldman Sachs, Pension Funds and More (needtoknow.news)
“Ladies and gentlemen. OUR Occupy Movement is gathering momentum. We have occupied the minds of most of the Useless Eaters with so many narratives that the majority of them don’t know their arses from their elbows!”
(Sound of raucous laughter, cheering and clapping).
Who else misses the good old lockdown days when people poked head out window to clap the NHS some even rattled pots an pans !
Yes those brave cops facing down the far right deserve same ,, some riot cops even literally de platformed old lady .,those boys go the extra mile to show how what tolerant society we are
“Tommy Robinson went online broadcasting to thousands calling for riots, he’s now desperately backtracking as he tries to avoid prosecution and jail.”
As it turns out, Robinson has ties to the IDF. “Anti-Muslim fervor that has torn through Britain in August is being stirred up by unseen spectral actors in service of the Zionist entity’s ideological, political, and military interests.”
It would appear the riots were not totally “organic,” but deliberately planned as a way of both exacting revenge on the anti-genocide protesters while simultaneously stirring up Islamophobia. In any event, its created the conditions for heightened censorship and political repression.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/tommy-robinson-zionist-agenda-hidden-forces-behind-uk-race-riots/288108/
Go check the France riots videos posted by the alternative media then put go check the same U.K riots videos reposted by the same alternative media.
Then play them on – 0.25 speed and watch them.
Go watch millwall verse chelsea on YT where rival fans are fighting, then your see real riots smashing up of pubs, fights with police and police horses. not some staged fake orchestrated internet riots where the same orchestrated videos are repeated by MIC alternative media.
My friend lived in an area where there was suppose to be this massive riots happening between moslems and the rightwing. 💤
A couple idiots turned up to ‘watch’ and they closed the working people shops down for the afternoon. There was NO ONE THERE!
Media hype by both sides of the media including the fake independent.
https://aje.io/x336z5
Al-Jazerra is a mainstream globalist propaganda site. On selected stories it will go with the other side of the false binary. On this story it went with the standard MSM narrative, since that appeals to its core audience demographic.
The rent-a-mob is employed to agitate and encourage ordinary protesters to join the fray. Those ordinary people have now had the book thrown at them, if we are to believe the length of prison sentences which have been doled out, including just for anti-social media posts.
There’s no doubt that many protests are “not” organic and paid provocateurs do exist. That being said, Richard Medhurst did a segment on the riots and so did George Galloway. Medhurst pointed out Robinson’s connection to the IDF, Galloway did not.
Btw, the US mainstream media hardly covered that story. They currently inundate the airwaves either pushing Zionist Kamala, or mocking the Orange idiot.
It does not surprise me in the slightest that the US MSM hardly mentioned it.
By US standards the UK events were not riots but mere cosplay. A police car on fire here and there, a few broken windows and some stone throwing. Even by UK standards the recent events were a tea party in comparison with the Brixton, Notting Hill, Toxteth, St Paul’s and Moss Side riots of the early 1980’s. They also were less extensive than 2011 UK riots.
In comparison, when the US riots, numerous city blocks get torched, if not whole city neighbourhoods. Property damage runs into the billions and ten of billions of dollars.
Maybe, there should be a new reality show styled after the “Hunger Games” where nation-states compete over who has the most ferocious riots. 😁
😂
Miri Finch saw the same – ie nothing- in Huddersfield, reinforcing the experience of your friend.
https://miri.substack.com/p/riot-or-ruse
She even wrote to Kirklees Council to complain at their fear-mongering, sowing discontent and promotion of the ‘riots are coming’ narrative. She has yet to receive a reply so far.
https://miri.substack.com/p/follow-up-letter-to-local-council
I recommend Miri’s articles. No riots happening where she lives in spite of headlines in the local papers claiming ‘right wing extremists’ out of control.
No need to stir up islamaphobia. islam is pretty good at doing that itself
As you are probably aware “islamophobia” is an invention of, I think, of the Iranian revolutionists to silence their own dissenters.
To conflate a fear if islam with a hatred of islam is a triumph for linguistic gymnastics and the word is now spuriously used to silence opposition to islam’s expansionist and supremacist core values.
You are absolutely right about the term Islamophobia, any term that seeks to conflate antipathy towards a specific group with mental illness is sinister and wrong and that is the case whenever phobia is used like that.
If you have a source for it’s invention by “Iranian revolutionaries to silence their own dissenters I would be very interested to see that.
On face value your claim makes absolutely no sense as that term would serve no useful purpose in the context you described but if the evidence is there I will be very happy and interested to see it.
https://newrepublic.com/article/81178/the-invention-islamophobia
You didn’t like that one, then ?
From this smug New Republic rant:
“…The term “Islamophobia” serves a number of functions: it denies the reality of an Islamic offensive in Europe all the better to justify it; it attacks secularism by equating it with fundamentalism.”
See that? “Denialism” is afoot here. What is denialism? It is the blasé assertion of a highly questionable proposal which, through that very blasé assertiveness, is quietly presumed to be true and therefore denial of which is taken to be blasphemy, apostasy, and worthy of witch hunting.
Cf.
It’s very strange.
Mentioning islam always evokes hysterical hyperbole.
Just weird.
Am I missing something ?
The claim is simply repeated without any attempt whatsoever to provide evidence to substantiate it,so I can only conclude that you parrot ideas that reinforce your worldview and are not overly concerned about evidence.
I am not refuting the claim, I do not know the origin of the term but there should be some evidence to support it, just repeating something does not constitute evidence.
Wikipedia provides an account that is at the least linked to specific claims that can be checked.
“According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word means “Intense dislike or fear of Islam, esp. as a political force; hostility or prejudice towards Muslims”. It is attested in English as early as 1923[42] to quote the French word islamophobie,found in a thesis published by Alain Quellien in 1910 to describe “a prejudice against Islam that is widespread among the peoples of Western and Christian civilization“.[43]
The expression did not immediately turn into the vocabulary of the
English-speaking world though, which preferred the expression “feelings
inimical to Islam”, until its re-appearance in an article by Georges
Chahati Anawati in 1976.[44] The term did not exist in the Muslim world,[a] and was later translated in the 1990s as ruhāb al-islām (رُهاب الإسلام) in Arabic, literally “phobia of Islam”.
So, according to Wikipedia, the term is of French origin inthe early 20th century and entered the English lexicon in the mid 1970’s courtesy of Georges Chahati Anawat,, a Doninican Islamic scholar with ties to Egypt. Iran’s revolutionaries do not make an appearance.
Perhaps they have been deliberately written out? Perhaps they were deliberately written in?
At any rate without substantiation, the claim cannot be supported.
”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia
Your point is?
Most words are made up from former constructions.
The thing is with islamophobia is that there is no Christian equivalent.
Islam gets a free pass with liberals.
I wonder why ?
Interesting that Wikipedia is your main source.
The main problem I have with defenders of islam is their absolute conviction that islam can do no wrong.
ALL religions have caused/cause harm, and maybe some good.
The whitewashing of horrific acts in the name of religion is, to most people inexcusable.
In all religions.
That includes the middle east today.
“Interesting that Wikipedia is your main source.” I did 2 minutes research, you did none. You have no sources worthy of the term and have demonstrated that you have no idea what evidence even is. Congrats!
You’re really trying a teeny bit too hard.
So you don’t challenge my assertions of the core values of islam ?
Have you read the Bible? My very own devout Christian stepmother once told me if I want to read about violence to read the Bible. You’re correct that ALL organized religions have used violence so why keep hammering on Islam as if it’s the only one?
Erm…..
As a Christian, my focus is on the New, rather than Old Testament. Not much violence by followers of Christ in there. (in terms of violence the OT is a different story)
Off the top of my head, Jesus blights a non-bearing fig tree, sends a demon filled swine over a cliff, chastises the money changers desecrating the Temple, and Peter, I believe, cuts off someone’s ear. There might be more, but that’s what comes to mind. Most generally, it’s the Christians on the receiving end of the violence.
FWIW, in the first two centuries of Christianity, until co-opted by Constantine, it spread by evangelism, that is, through preaching. Islam, from day one, spread by the sword and conquest. I believe Islam comes in for criticism for styling itself as the religion of peace, when its history very much argues against that.
The New Testament is about love and redemption !
You’re now conflating the Old Testament with the New one. Guess what? The Old Testament wasn’t written by Moslems or Christians!
I asked you for evidence regarding the claim you made you made about the origin of the term Islamophobia. You supplied a source that offered no evidence and then tried to change the subject completely!
What on earth does any of that have to do with either the defense or condemnation of Islam?
You may well be a decent human being or whatever, but intellectually you fall a long way short and that is the kindest way of putting it.
“Islam” was the designated enemy cooked up in the wake of 9/11 to fill in the old Commie bogey. To be sure, it was one of the “back burner” issues being juggled as possible scary scaries. But the whole “war being waged by Muslims …against rationalists and true liberals” is another phony theatre generated by propaganda merchants. Naturally it can swing in different ways by coming up with that “Islamophobia” label which can also be used to fuel this polystyrene “debate”.
If we are talking “rationalism” then we have to query “The Science” as it has been presented over the covid years. But even before that e.g. Dawkins and his “Selfish Gene” – the biggest oxymoron since “virgin birth”.
Or are we really to believe that The Evil Muslims have wreaked more havoc than the Western imperialist forces?
I never talk about moslems, only islam.
The ideology has a number of characteristics that make it difficult to assimilate with both the 21st Century and with other religions.
Unlike Christianity, it hasn’t gone through a reformation. This is a problem when dealing with texts written 700 years ago and 21st Century mores.
As noted in another post I made on this topic, The core values are expansionist and supremacist, not exactly compatible with religious co-existence.
“Expansionism” and “supremacism” were the core values of our “enlightened” and “rational” West.
But if you’re going to determine what some idealist vision of any particular creed means then you can say what you want. How anything actually works for actual people in the real world is what matters.
Tariq Ali has described how his “Muslim” upbringing looked a lot like any non-Muslim’s religious upbringing and has a very familiar ring to it.
Are “fundamentalist Muslims” more dangerous than fundamentalist Christians? One thing for sure as that they are currently infinitely more useful. Or, at least, stooges who will behave in a suitably impressive “fanatical” way are useful.
And what about this “rationality” of our wondrous “West” that has now been so brutally revealed via the scams since covid?
Cf. Chesterton’s apt comment that those who don’t believe in God will not believe nothing. They will believe anything.
Religeous equivalence is an argument often used when comparing islam and Christianity.
It’s like equating chalk and cheese.
Their concept of the false prophet, being annihilated by their own at the end of days is surely something to look at. He is false, although manages to heal, and demonstrate miracles, his flaw as prophesied in a tour of countries, was by avoiding to visit mecca.
The prophet comes down in a cloud to destroy the false prophet.
Islam was always a standby enemy. After the plunder of Russia began, it was promoted to the top spot. Now, it is back to second or third place.
Especially when fanatical groups on both sides are deliberately funded by intelligence agency provocateurs.
Ah! So much so, deserves more exposure. Impossible to overexpose it.
Aka AlCIAduh
(thanks to Lori Price at legitgov.org for that clarification)
Criticism of islam is one of the holy cows on OFF-G which guarantees red arrows.(pun intended)
Not quite sure why.
Most of the other topics seem fair game !
There you go !
I know it looks like I rigged that.
Promise I didn’t !
You don’t mean “holy cows” since that would mean Off-G love to criticize Islam. No, criticism of Islam is one of your holy cows.
Wrong way round.
The British deep-state is well practiced in the art of the pseudo-event!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Kitson
Kitson wrote widely on gangs, counter-gangs and measures of deception, the use of defectors, and concepts such as pseudo-gangs and pseudo-operations.[40][41]
Kind off topic,
I knew they’d do it one day:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/08/12/inej-a12.html
“The right-wing attack on Algerian boxer Imane Khelif”
Yup “right-wing”. You can feel a sense of impending tumescence as our Trotties get themselves lathered up for the match!
“A mob of far-right social media commentators, politicians and even some of Khelif’s opponents, piled on following her astounding 46-second victory….”
Two howlers here: “her” obviously, but also “astounding 46-second victory”. If a bull were to be unleashed over a cat, do you think the Trotters would still call it “astounding”?
“Anti-trans bigot and children’s book author J.K. Rowling”
Oh the gloves are well and truly off now! And it’s a bit of a relief really. The old WSWS no longer need to pretend. They are now openly totally fucking barking.
“fascist former president Donald Trump …..Mussolini-admiring Prime Minister Georgia Meloni…. fascist oligarch Elon Musk….”
Yeah go boy go!
“Khelif, from an impoverished rural part of….” Fully erect prole wanking mode now!
Khelif – she her she her she her etc.
It is however heartening to note that some of the BTL commenters are actually experiencing a little tension in their craniums as the frothing psycho manure of this trans bilge spills over and threatens to open their eyes to the true nature of this Trotter tripe tartuffery.
From above article:
“Arrests – Begin arresting people for online comments (again, these can be real or fake, it makes no difference), but ensure the comments are unpleasant or stupid enough most people won’t defend them.”
Even with a smallish sample size, I’ve had up close personal experience with how this plays out, in remarkable ways.
I suggested at a major local tv website (KTLA) that basketball planetary superstar Kobe Bryant (a parishioner at my local church in Newport for twenty years) did not die, with 8 others, by accident.
I suggested at the site that all evidence of the flight indicated the Sikorsky chopper computer had been jammed after clearing the ridge in Calabasas (interestingly, quite near where Francis Gary Powers news chopper had crashed on the eve of his scheduled appearance at HSCA in DC, 1977) and locked into a crash mode. All evidence suggests that, but it would take an OK at highest levels to do that, I would assume.
The OP who was heckling me as a theorist intriguingly replied “PROVE IT!” in caps and bold. (That reply also suggested duplicitous trollery at a very high level.)
I was disgusted, paused a half hour to get some coffee, and when I came back, our several comments and replies to each other had all been deleted!
Just ours, nobody else’s. I’d never seen that happen on such a popular & public permalink thread.
Meanwhile, the only, solo, lone, singular youtube (or any other) presentation that Mr. Bryant had been murdered, was by some absolute whack job who had put up some ridiculous theory. It stayed up quite a while, but no others. [Wikipedia the night of Kobe’s death listed listed his date of death as “assassination” and it was up quite awhile, then edited.]
So it happens that GooGoo, and ALL other search engines I know of, had “curated” the discussion to only post the absurd whacky conspiracy scenario, and not any others like mine which were more carefully reasoned.
Same with Robin Williams’ murder and next day cremation, 99% unreported ashes, at the time. Silent on that for over a year, then stealthfully a few news items were retro-fitted, to cover past tracks. Meanwhile, I posted about it at Quora a couple years ago, where I usually get a few replies, tops. For my insinuation that RW was murdered, I got over a 100 replies, assailing me for shamefully suggesting that Williams didn’t take his own life (Williams had become best friends with neighbour Mort Sahl since 2000, the latter was deputized by Jim Garrison during the JFK trial).
I even got a number of threats for suggesting stubbornly Robin Williams didn’t commit suicide!? Ridiculously amazing. One was pithy: “Why don’t you do us all a favour and return yourself to Sender?’ [My neighbour and friend since grammar school, Terence Levitt, with a then recent music school degree from USC, had been RW’s break pianist at the Laff Stop here. In 1977!]
And, growing up around Hollywood and BH, I’ve had other brushes with infamous star murders by star whackers, as Randy Quaid calls them, also someone targeted and disgraced extravagantly by MSM, like Polanski etc etc. My father was Bob Crane’s attorney, and he himself was whacked four years after “Hogan’s Hero” was found bludgeoned, in 1978 both covered up to this day, as something other than how they were publicly filed away. [Then we have all the Manson Helter Skelter, also completely bogus stories, albeit “best selling true crime” history book of all time, by that troll Bugliosi.
The net result is that there is a whole cesspool of ‘(longtime) coverted’ censorship online, a growing véritable subterranean lake, that seeps more and more through the ground floor of public discourse.
Expect a lot more, huh?
I can give a lot of other personal evidence, but my index finger is suddenly numb. So maybe it’ll just start pointing.
Yes, Kobe was scheduled to testify in his lawsuit against a subsidiary of a pharmacuetical company a week or so after he was assassinated.
I did do some digging into that but quite frankly became a little nervous.
I think there are rabbit holes that we are not allowed to pursue. (Like your comments being deleted).
OK for us to comment away on substacks et al and continue fighting amongst each other about the latest scare tactic lie they come up with.
But some subjects are taboo.
I’m with you on everything you mentioned.
That’s the really scary stuff.
This Musk thing interests me greatly.
He is obviously bating Starmer but is it real or not ?
Why is it not real ?
All of us “owners of the truth” on here are human beings with views about justice, freedom etc, and we respect each other’s views to an extent.
Or we disagree and have a bit of a downvote spat.
Or call each other twats.
Why is Musk any different ?
If I were a multi billionnaire I’d still have an opinion about things. Maybe no different to my existing one.
Maybe Musk is just a regular guy with an obscene amount of money and has our interests at heart.
I’m willing to give it a punt.
If you have a better idea, please let me know.
Elon Musk who took 2 covid vaccines to be able to access his own manufacturing plant in Germany or is it his on off girlfriend Grimes a crowley lover who;s clearly not christian.
maybe the neurolink and DOD contracts makes him a outsider.?
You wouldn’t have exotic/esoteric interests ?
I’m playing devil’s avocado a bit but, you know…..
Everything I believed in is now dead. I have been living in a lie.
I know just how you feel. 😥
Or, perhaps as Timothy Dalton says [in his Nazi blimp over Griffith Park, Hollywood, directly above PRS] at the end of “The Rocketeer”~
“No, not lying, my dear, I was ACTING”
We are living in The Theatre State.
And it has become a global Cineplex.
Watch out, the popcorn is pricey and keeps getting more so. And the official scripts are all psyops written in advance.
But we don’t really have to accept their premiere invitations, or buy their tickets. To their “pseudo-reality” [kudos to David Martin at d Dave for a nifty phrase].
I’ll admit that it can be mind numbing when surrounded by so many who (still) think we do.
David Martin’s admirable “wide spectrum” psyop-debunking website, out of DC:
dcdave.com
https://dcdave.com/
[3rd try’s the charmer!😱]
Musk is World History’s biggest Troll, if nothing else so historic.
[In the same sense as how Igor Stravinsky classified Richard Strauss, “He is certainly the biggest composer of the Twentieth Century.” (Inside gag for those who can fully savor the repertoire.)]
Hopium is one helluva drug!
As I said, if you have a better idea
….
Ignore Musk, that is my better idea.
It is fairly rampant in the comments here at OffG.
It is pretty surprising since OffG has done a good job of exposing the duality and the hypocrisy of the ‘saviour’ individuals, nations, block of nations.
Wait until the controllers switch from the duality to the singularity as they must. A lot of punters are going to be sucked in. Certain segments of the alt-media have already hooked their fish, just ready to reel them in.
Thesis + antithesis = synthesis.
If anyone reading this does not know what I am talking about with the above statement, do some research and understand the thinking behind it. There is a reason the floor of all Masonic lodges have a symbolic black and white chequerboard pattern.
. Yes, very well said.
Musk is trying to pull ‘the saviour of the people’, before he launches himself into politics at home.
They’ve Musk has normalized digital id to post and sending them paying 150$ for a verification ID check which has more id checks than applying for a mortgage then rewarding the with blue tick.
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For a ‘farrrrrright-winger’, have you ever noticed how completely globalist all of Elon Musk’s businesses really are? I mean: electric cars, Skynet, putting microchips in people’s brains, etc. Why would any true, principled right-winger engage in such pursuits? It really only makes sense if you assume that he’s just another part of the psy-op.
All those we can see and I D are all actors. Mostly bad ones, it appears. What else?
The control on online comments seems to be happening everywhere now. Absolutely everywhere.
VPN and dark web then.
Problem is, that makes it much more difficult to police.
That’s why they won’t censor X.
It’s been happening for awhile now. I remember about ten years ago I found the threads at Truthout closed down, impossible to post. Then not too long after that it’s firebrand editor, Will Rivers Pitt died suddenly of a heart attack, he was only 50.
Hey, it could happen.
Mostly, though, there’s no need to censor, there is control now that is so redundant l. I’ve seen this schtick played out in variations, since I first started an underground magazine 57 years ago. We were all 15, but they merely absorbed and corrupted my staff. Me they expelled.
No loss, I focused on music. Much happier, at least when all is in tune.
Well, actually, it’s also about pretending there is free speech in the first place. Just look down any BTL stream in the Guardian and you’ll see that whole sections of opinion are missing, with only a very few heavily sanitised alternative viewpoints permitted, and even then deleted or trolled out of existence. How is that allowed in a what is supposed to be a newspaper that the only views allowed are the ones of the editors? And when anything really thorny involving government domestic and foreign policy comes up, the Guardian and other British newspapers go even further and close down or openly censor opinions of readers.
The g is tiger balm for ‘liberals’
That’s why I stopped reading the Graud in 2004; when they began to suppress any remarks which were opposed to Bush/BLiar and their Coalition of the Killing in Iraq.
Kit Knightly knows. After all, the rampant censorship over at The Graun is the very thing that forced him to set up the Off-Graun.
The Satanic Cabal has turned free speech into some kind of virtual piñata that the lefty mindset can continually whack at to pacify their tormented selves with.
Boy Howdy ! What Tom,
Thats me,
edgelord kid, not really
I’m old
just trying to breathe
like rem in the 80s
when everything was great
course
was young
then
so didn’t
care
still
don’t
Turns out the Americas invaded us, bit like now
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/collecting-historical-clues-for-calendar-manipulation.6316/
Let’s not get sucked into their binary trap and misunderstand the ruling class, claiming their current platform is “left” or “liberal” or heaven forbid “communist” or “socialist”, as is the knee jerk mindset of the right in the US. Our great overlords spent over 100 years deconstructing any real left in the US until the 80’s and 90’s, with the FAKE “liberal” Dims switching sides, to join Repugs in a consolidated mainstream deregulated war empire. Oklahoma City kicked off the villainization of a patsy “right”, that now somewhat replaces the 60’s/70’s left movements as patsy du jour. Conservatives and Tea Party types, John Birch Society, survivalists and everyone short of Nazis have been rolled into the new scapegoat “right”. Once left enemy, now right enemy.
The ruling class has no ideology, except wealth and authority to themselves. Using anyone as a scapegoat, is their strategy. Ideology now puts a target on your back for the predator 1%. To identify one ideological group or another as a fraudulent group with a fraudulent ideology, is to play into the overlords hands. Like BLM, “they” whoever they are, is irrelevant. That BLM provides a vehicle for humanity venting racial anger against killer cops, is the significant truth and not something that should be condemned. Government entities like the FBI create ersatz orgs of it’s nature, to destabilize, sometimes preemptively, any “movement” that threatens ruling class authoritarianism and profit flow.
Look at how recent proof of FBI setting up Nazi/violent right group activities, including Proud Boys, as social conflict provocateurs, to establish “evidence” of “our new enemy” du jour. In the 50’s thru the 90’s the enemy du jour was the “left”. Just watch this 35 minute short on FBI provocateurism from that period. All of the same tactyics used on today’s right is there. And Cointelpro still exists, even without JE Hoover.
https://youtu.be/59nXASbd0XQ
Thank you!
RE: Our great overlords spent over 100 years deconstructing any real left in the US…
Indeed! And you have right wing pundits like James Lindsay on how we are being taken over by Marxism and that (finally after 150 years) the global communist takeover is finally here! I see both Lindsay and the WSWS (Troskyists) working for the same bosses.
You got that right. Whoever steps in to run these sell orgs on the left make a mockery of left thinking and socialism. When the US Communist Party endorsed Obama, it kinda was a lead sinker for any “organization” making a difference in the future. Whatever happens will be outside any “orgs”. It’ll come from grassroots cooperation.
The military will trample the grass of the so-called grassroots orgs and all In plainclothes.
I actually worked, very briefly, for a thing called grassrootscampaigns.org ten years ago. A year later I went by to pay them a visit and just look around. A soldierly type told me sternly at the door, “That organization is no longer here, this is a military operation now.”
I asked him for their new “20” and he ended the conversation in a soldierly way. Abruptly.
Thanks for the report. Good to know. Now, getting into their heads…
< The ruling class has no ideology, except wealth and authority to themselves. >
That’s it! In a nutshell.
Wealth, authority, and Caligulan orgies… they seem to have a thing about pushing the boundaries of sexual deviency, along with their apparent Transhumanist quest to live for ever in some kind of intergalactic Olympus.
Yep, it’s like talking about Al Capone’s “ideology”? Taught with a baseball bat.
That’s what’s wrong with the NATO West, simple worship of the Golden Calf mostly, with a bit of window dressing thrown over it Pope Francis has called it out that way, too.
Apart from those you mentioned – vigilantes, anarchists or militia whom the enforcers tolerate for just such an occasion, other participants include
– destitute local people, especially for looting
– those volunteering or hired for an “emergency exercise”, e.g., with simulated injuries; UK government has used specialist businesses for this in the past
– stooges
– convicts promised leniency
– a mob transported from elsewhere
– enforcers themselves, in plain clothes or retired.
This is similar to organising a false-flag.
Anyone or any situation they can find appropriate to provocateur, facilitate or just let happen, happens. I have seen hundreds of Oakland PD riot cops stand down and literally watch/allow rioting, broken windows, graffiti and burning dumpsters happen in their presence. On other occasions, unwarrantedly provoke, without notice, of any kind, firing gas cannisters, flash bangs, rubber bullets and baton-beating, non-rioting peaceful protesters and cause major physical harm. The rioting that causes property damage only, the system calls “violence”. The unprovoked assault on human beings with criminal injuries and criminal jailings by cops, is called “establishing order” from “violent protesters”. A friend of ours was jailed with $200k bail for throwing harmless tree seed balls at cops. You can’t make this shit up. You have to see it for yourself.
I advise everyone out there that’s curious, go to protests and just watch what happens. It is not illegal to watch and be a legal observer. You may need to do this for years to get an accurate sense of the kind of corrupt behavior unleashed by the government and it agencies of all kinds. Watch for the provocateurs that just show up out of nowhere, doing things totally out of character, looking out of character, even carrying hidden hand guns. You can smell ’em.
As long as we buy into and bounce around in the system’s false binaries, that can only exist thru media total falsehoods, we will continue to lose authority over ourselves, staying trapped in their Matrix of illusions.
True. The labels are essentially about fighting over the money and fighting over sexual propriety and in-group allegience. You can change the latter two to some extent by controlling the former – the money lever, and that seems to be what the elites are up to/
Our goal should be to force the state into savagery, to make them look ridiculous in the eyes of more and more people and to compel them and their media to attempt to justify the incongruesness of their position. And to get the public laughing at them. We ARE succeeding…
< Our goal should be to force the state into savagery >
“Be careful what you wish for; you might get it”. — Proverb
So yer told dirty lies at school.
Where you live.
What you are
What happened only 300 years ago
Resets, that was one
During covid we saw people allegedly arrest.
Looking back the videos where staged as hell.
they dont need laws to imprison or arrest people.
this is based on Fear and like the Adl they dont want people to post repost
or have a difference of opinion.
They have enough laws to smashed your door in.
They were welding peoples doors shut to keep them inside in China, I thought it was over the top but it looked as real as real could look.
The welding of doors (more likely, collapsible gates) story got wide coverage in the “Free World”, like the “lab leak” story and the “people collapsing on the streets” story. Was any of it true? Why no publicity for the mass protests that finally and belatedly ended the curfew (“lockdown”) in China?
I actually met a real Chinese person who confirmed the excesses of the state.
She was grateful to them for protecting her.
Really !
I can top that: back in February of 2022 at Schipol Airport in Amsterdam — nowhere near China! — I actually saw a whole family of Chinese people wearing bunny suits, as though they were working on the line at an Intel factory! Insane. I mean, here I was thinking that the masking thing was crazy … just wow!
The ones — arrests — I saw looked real. How about that Canadian preacher? Remember that ordinarily powerless people, when given power, frequently turn into petty tyrants, and the police just follow orders.
Also, to assume that all or most of the Convid arrests were “fake” is to accept that no one was actively opposing their rights and civil liberties being violated.
Pity the judges in the International courts of Justice are not as quick to pass sentence on genocidal nations who murder thousands of innocent people. One law for them etc etc………
300 years ago
THIS is the way how your neighbour next door will treat you and do to you when and if he find you in the middle of a dark forest…………..alone. https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2022/9/18/photos-grim-exhumations-continue-at-mass-grave-in-ukraine .
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The beast lurks in all of us; not only in our next door neighbours but also deep in our own hearts.
“True civilization is not gas nor electricity nor AI; true civilization is to diminish the traces of Original Sin. — Baudelaire.
Baudelaire knew AI. Now I am going to call Quote Detective for sure!
Thanks for deleting my post t’other day, was on fake stonehenge built in 1956, now wiped from the web, here.
Back of the net !
Cashback !, sort of…
google translates fake history
https://gorojanin–iz–b-livejournal-com.translate.goog/89184.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB
Tried posting again, with links,deleted again thus far, they really don’t want you to know this
2 “Futility of futilities,” says the Teacher, “futility of futilities! Everything is futile!”
3 What does a man gain from all his labor, at which he toils under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.
9 What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there a case where one can say, “Look, this is new”?
It has already existed in the ages before us.
11 There is no remembrance of those who came before, and those yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow after.
You are damn right dear Bible, nobody will be remembered……………….LOL.
Absolutely right. Absolutely nobody and nothing will be remembered……………..LOL.
bot boy
Huh. yer not a bot, Sorry.
The Bible, (not read), ‘discovered’ in ca 1530.
Written ca. 1700 ?
I challenge #9 (apologies to Beatles) in that we are seeing some curious novelties only seen now, but never before in history.
Media is no doubt to blame.
So we have a very relevant 2020 film by Polanski (“J’accuse!’) that NATO won’t touch with a barge pole, but rather than ban it, or censor it, its been instead “internationally cancelled” (Armond White’s choice phrase about RP, in Nationale Review).
Banned, without being expressly, overtly banned.
That’s something new under the sun.
That is where the fissure lies.
More to follow.
“Freedom of speech, not of reach.”
Pertinent point.
‘Reach’? As in ‘the long arm of the law’? 😉
Reach as in, “we’ll let you post that, but shadow ban you so that no one can actually see it.”
The WEF stooge at Twitter said it.
That’s exactly how QUORA functions. Whenever you downvote, up pops a banner (green colored, what’s not to just love about that?):
“Thanks, this comment will be seen by fewer people.”
Ludicrous. Covert censorship, hilarious.
Does it really say that?
The verbatim prompt at Quora:
“This comment has been downvoted and will be shown to fewer people.”</em
If based on that alone, I would be too embarrassed to admit I post there, but It's frequented by the entire spectrum of suffering humanity: some brilliant types, amidst hordes who are not the sharpest tools in the shed, including yours truly 🤔😱✅
That’s absolutely pathetic.What a stupid business model.
One of the most trafficked sites in US etc etc.!
Billions of visits, but stats inflated too. I go there to get a broader view of the turfs, and some there are sizzling brilliant.
Really savvy Alt truth must be very robo~downvoted there, since it’s trolled heavily by Reich spooks.
But just WHAT is to keep ANY site from robo~voting, and shadow,~throttling or btl banning of different kinds ?!? Visitor trust?
One admitted or soi-disant spy replied that it’s a dumping ground for former C 👁️A and their other affiliated frat members.
Rings true. But I learn a lot of curious and useful factoids about spooks there, so it’s worth all that. But just a Caveat Lector big-time.
I’ve been answered by several very highly placed diplomats [not truly self-confessed, but I did searches, quite amazing profiles, if believable.
…yet at least they talk a good game].
Spooks = Spies, as most know, but I have Black confidantes who don’t like that word used.
What to do? It’s suggestive, but maybe operatives or spies is better. Yup.
A good synopsis.
Ah yes, the police…
They’re always there to enforce lockdown “rules”, or root out “hate crimes” on Fakebook, or engage in inane “woke” virtue-signalling, but they’ve more or less given up on policing. Try to get them to tackle, say, thieving from your shop, or noisy speeding in your street, or vandalism of a property, and they don’t want to know. You’ll be given an incident number and that’ll be it.
Most people who’ve had any dealings with the police these days will say they are useless. They just cruise idly around in their gleaming new cars, all paid for by us, the tax-cattle. The only time one ever sees them on foot is when they stop at Tesco to buy their lunch, before quickly scuttling off again.
Clearly they do not work for us.
Meanwhile…
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1824035633917984832
Do you actually believe that the police turn up to half famous people online houses asking them not to post..?
The FBI turned up at Scott Ritter’s house, took away his computers and warned him that Ritter that he was under suspicion of being the unregistered agent of a Foreign Power. Simply because Ritter is exercising his right as U$ citizen to protest against his country supporting a proxy Ukro-Nazi war against Russia in Ukraine, and also against the U$A supporting against a Zio-Nazi genocide in Palestine.
“When it comes to Anarchy, the police can play your head off in that game.” — Bernard Shaw, circa 1890.
The police do what they’re told.
Well, yes, but that depends. Often. How can you know the chain of custody?
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2024-08-12. Japan Declares State Emergency After ‘Nanobots’ Found in 96M. Heart failure risk surges 4,900% post-jab (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).