Careful, talk of “weather modification” could be a trap
Kit Knightly
Last week, category 4 Hurricane Helene hit the eastern coast of North America causing massive flooding and devastation across the region, leaving people stranded and homeless.
This week, Hurricane Milton – a category five hurricane – is predicted to hit Florida’s west coast after forming in the Gulf of Mesico and moving eastwards.
Two such storms in less than ten days have fueled online talk of “Weather modification” from Republican politicians and alternate media personalities:
Yes they can control the weather.
It’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.
— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) October 4, 2024
Whistleblower, 9 year Air Force Veteran, shares the truth about weather modification.
Share this everywhere for the people who keep saying it’s a big conspiracy pic.twitter.com/8l5k1YoE7n
— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) October 6, 2024
Personally, I see reason to be cautious here.
Does the ruling class have access to such technology?
Very possibly. I’m extremely positive they’ve spent billions in research trying to create it anyhow.
Would they use it if they had it?
Of course they would. Obviously they would have no moral objections to causing death and destruction in pursuit of their agenda.
No, my caution is simple – the claim of “weather modification” can easily be used as a backdoor into accepting the reality of “climate change”.
After all its premise is the same – that the weather we experience is unusual, strange, unnatural – and we need to do something about it.
When we talk about “weather modification” we are tacitly accepting this truth, or at least can easily be maneuvered into seeming to do so.
So we need to be really really careful about what arguments we are endorsing. We can’t just take every climate scare story at face value suddenly because we can attribute it to “weather modification”. We need to do some research, get some data, take each case on its merits.
For example –
It’s being claimed storms “never” behave like Hurricane Milton, forming in the gulf and moving east.
But is that true?
It’s certainly unusual, but meteorological data says 14 of the 146 hurricanes to form in the Gulf of Mexico since 1851 moved eastwards.
So it’s rare, but hardly unprecedented.
There’s no need to invoke either climate change or weather modification as an explanation.
And please don’t forget that the vast majority of weather experienced on this planet is NOT statistically unusual, despite the hysterical claims to the contrary.
If we start embracing every unverified, exaggerated or patently false claim of “climate change” and simply slap the additional claim of “weather modification” on it to make it our own then whose game are we actually playing?
Like the “lab leak” theory, it can appear to be a radical anti-establishment claim, but end up endorsing everything important about the establishment narrative.
I mean if you start with…
“This weather is freakish and dangerous and the result of secret weather modification technology, and we need to do something about about it.”
Then all they have to do is discredit the idea that secret weather modification technology exists – by disproving some of the weaker claims being made in its behalf – and we’re left with this…
“This weather is freakish and dangerous…and we need to do something about it.”
If you doubt it – then here is the bait and switch being enacted before your eyes…
Okay, but if “they” control weather, then the next logical extreme is that humans caused climate change. She really didn’t think this talking point through.
— Alex Cole (@acnewsitics) October 4, 2024
“Alex Cole”, btw, is a Kamala bot account. So, this is not a statement anyone can afford to ignore.
Could not be more obvious – “weather modification” claims are going to be weaponised to weaken the climate sceptic position.
Yes, “weather modification technology” has the potential to be the “early treatment protocol” of climate change.
Just as the doctors pushing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for Covid actually supported the “pandemic” narrative by reinforcing the idea there was a new disease that required treatment, so the claim “they are messing with the weather” endorses the premise of climate change by suggesting our weather is weird, unnatural and a problem we need to “fix”.
No, this doesn’t mean every claim of weather modification is some kind of shill in action. But we need to be aware that shills are already colonizing it for obvious agenda-related purposes.
SUPPORT OFFGUARDIAN
If you enjoy OffG's content, please help us make our monthly fund-raising goal and keep the site alive.
For other ways to donate, including direct-transfer bank details click HERE.
Hurricanes and Geoengineering
interesting take, somewhat along the same lines, the decrying of FEMA’s lack of intervention in NC, can be turned into a call for more .gov funding/intervention…
Turkey’s talking tough:
https://www.winterwatch.net/2024/10/end-of-the-line-for-israel-and-their-enablers/
Or is it all piss and wind?
They’re worldwide, and apart from the deaths and injuries, they’re bad for business: Destroying homes, crops, businesses, infrastructure and tourist resorts.
They are a drain on the economy (the Capitalist’s wet dream) and distract from the ‘real enemies’, the Russians, the Chinese the terrorists and ‘viruses’.
Most hurricanes and cyclones happen over open ocean.
Oops, missed their ‘targets’.
https://www.diffen.com/difference/Cyclone_vs_Hurricane
Well, that’s a good point regardless of what the hell is really happening. That Marjorie Taylor Green (I thought only serial killers went by all three names?) is a real smart one though. I think she’s a Roadkill scholar or something and has three PH testing kits for her pool, which she evidently can read. That’s something in my book. I mean, green, yellow, sometimes it’s dang hard to tell.
Another example of this phenom is elections, in this case the U.S. presidential election. I see it all the time where pundits on alternative blogs will bring up how the deep state is doing this or that to Trump (like, ahem, trying to kill him), he’s being cheated, etc., while out the other side of their mouths they say that elections mean nothing, that anyone in that position is only there because the deep state lets them, and whoever elected is simply going to follow the oligarchy/deep state orders anyway.
Good point.
There is another possibility that could be used to underpin the anthropogenic climate change narrative by using weather modification but in a different way to that stated in the article. Rather than discrediting weather modification to reinforce climate change as the reason for extreme weather events (or at least the perception of them), weather modification could be blamed for worsening it.
Perhaps, a narrative will be created, where governments and their agencies will admit that in trying to improve weather conditions eg avert droughts, floods etc. and/or to tackle climate change that their experimentation went wrong and has made things worse. A mea culpa but one where the stated intentions were good. Therefore, as a result, the crisis is now more acute and needs action sooner to tackle and reverse it. The narrative need not have an truth to it, or it could be based on partial truths, however it needs to be marketable to the public.
There has been a slow, drip, drip of articles and news stories more recently admitting weather modification including some mention of stratospheric aerosol injection (chemtrails). There has to be a reason for the information release at this time.
Although, anthropogenic climate change has been indoctrinated into the young, generally older people, 40 plus years old are more resistant to it. So a new angle, such as botched weather modification experiments could be blamed to justify us ‘all being in it together’ to do our part to reverse the ‘accidental damage’.
In other words, adding these two narratives together rather than subtracting one from the other.
They are promoting growth in a bad climate environment, talk about questionable economics.
It’s possible these 2 cyclones hitting the US east coast are part of some conspiracy but if that was the case wouldn’t Kamala Harris and co demonstrate at least a basic ability to gain some political capital from the events? With a month to go to the election there would be votes to be won by appearing compassionate and in control, but the mainstream perceptions are the opposite.
I don’t believe our masters have to create weather events to support the fabricated environmental crisis narrative. Human memory and perception is malleable enough to simply do that through the usual propaganda channels.
Its just the wrath of nature, I would not over think this.
The assassinations by that Middle East Rogue State of its ‘enemies’
leaders shows how you too can be tracked via your Big Tek devices,
and can even have your brains blown out too…
Can you please stop blatantly missing the point of this piece and acting as if weather modification is at all contentious to the point of the article. Please stop doing this. Any more is going in the bin and I’m temporarily placing you in premod. A2
More scare tactics from the $uiturd$.
“The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming ! And they can control the Earth’s completely chaotic, and almost unpredictable weather patterns!!”
I think you are spot on that we need to be wary of the trap laid out for us with regard to climate change / weather extremes being man-made.
It’s not us, our “carbon footprint,” that’s causing these events. It’s their deliberate high-tech meddling and their intent on destruction that’s the cause. THIS is what we should focus on and spread information about far and wide, while we still can.
It’s up to us to suss out their intent through their own documents, such as “Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025“, and disseminate them for the doubters.
And show that they’ve been meddling with the weather for decades: https://www.nsf.gov/nsb/publications/1965/nsb1265.pdf
Also revealing their intent through patent applications, such as here .
You initially agree with the author, but then you appear to completely contradict yourself by falling into exactly the reasoning trap highlighted in the article. A2
Weather modification is undeniably a real phenomenon. There is evidence they’ve been testing and perfecting this since the 1940s. It is very reasonable to think they are using this technology not only for depopulation, land grabs, 15-minute Smart Cities, etc. but also to create catastrophes which they then claim are proof of a “worsening climate” to perpetuate their whole manmade carbon/climate change hoax.
We must be careful of falling into exactly the trap highlighted above though. A2
Took 2 seconds
I can’t help thinking the fact it’s so easy to find means it could be a breadcrumb to make it easier for people like us to claim “hurricanes can be steered” and so look quite crazy to our normy friends.
Or maybe I am just getting paranoid
Most people are never going to even look. The few who do are easily marginalized.
The author never denies such technology does/could exist. Did you read the article, Veri Tas?
We should start with these people are not the sharpest tools in the shed, proceed w/skepticism
Regarding: “Last week, category 4 Hurricane Helene hit the eastern coast of North America causing massive flooding and devastation across the region, leaving people stranded and homeless.”
No, it wasn’t Hurricane Helene that hit the “eastern coast of North America”. It was Tropical Storm Helene. The hurricane was downgraded to a tropical storm before it reached Georgia.
Florida is on North America’s eastern coast. Yes, it was Hurricane Helene that struck that state, then proceeded northeast.
‘Weather control’ or ‘Weather influencing ?’
Back in the 1950s Dr Wilhelm Reich claimed to be able to influence the
weather, to make it rain, with a simple contraption called a ‘cloud buster’…
Trevor James Constable (NZ) claimed many successes of his application
of Reich’s cloud busting device…
So too Dr James DeMeo. DeMeo claimed to carry out successful efforts
in Ethiopia at the request of the Ethiopian government…
However their experiments were about influencing the weather, rain-making,
not about controlling the weather…
K, here’s a question. What if they are using weather mod to “sell” climate change? They augment storms to make them more extreme, which they most certainly have the technology to do, and people are then lead to believe it’s all just climate change? It appears to me to be a lot of that, and just look at the doubt that causes? We argue whether “they” can do it while they are doing it. Works like a charm. Considering they’ve been studying this since 1996 it’s not as loony as it sounds. At all. And no, I’m not a green deal shill thanks.
They’ve been studying this since at least the 1960s.
Then I’d say there’s a potential catch 22 there. Can it be actually demonstrated that weather is outside normal averages? Is a 10/1 chance of a storm moving east from the Gulf of Mexico all that persuasive in that conversation? Is there data out there? I don’t know. But of course, that’s not the point of the article, which is flagging a potential bait and switch to further a climate change agenda. A2
https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/white-supremacist-bird-names-slated
The triracial Kalergi-mutant Kama-
la H. with her circumcised master.
Certainly, the planet is gay.
Anyway, thanks for the report, that’s one of the conspiracy theories I’m signed up for !
It’s not my main one, just supporting cast. My conspiracy reading is A920B.
I thought it was your mood that made the weather how it is, before that internet.
Should have said that is my current conspiracy reading (@notashill), people change.
I used to believe things then got bored.
Here’s one again I saw on that Stolen History forum black cube thread, sure you have seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRBZDmf1jSw
Don’t agree with everything there, you never do, but still..
We know roughly what the current limits of weather modification are from the Bejing Olymipics when there was an attempt to keep adverse weather away from the area by seeding clouds some distance from the capital. Its all rather small scale stuff compared to even a minor hurricane.
The problem with these Gulf hurricanes is that they’re doing exactly what climate scientists predicted they would do — warmer air carries more moisture, warmer seas promote rapid intensification of storms and so on. This can’t be explained away as some conspiracy, humans are just not capable enough to do this — and even if we could, what would be the point? To add to fuel to the fire the mean sea level has risen inexorably over the last decade or two. Its not risen by a whole lot but then it doesn’t need to rise that much to cause low lying coastal communities problems.
As for hurricanes tracking west t east in the Gulf, that’s also a bit predictable. They tend to ride just south of the Jet Stream so if this is looping south through the Continental US they’ll run along the Gulf coast and so hit Florida. This is no different from regular storms, the ones that come down from the Gulf of Alaska in winter.
Anyway climate change is like any other natural phenomena. Its something we’ll have to learn to live with. Its not something we can wish away or pass laws against and it can’t be managed by pretending that it will be all right if we all return to some mythical Golden Era when either we were ignorant of it or we all lived in some kind of Arcadia. Climate science has been around for some time now, the difference between then and now is that back then we didn’t have the data points so a lot of estimations were educated guesses. We now have enough data to know that this is for real and we should be smart enough to be able to deal with it. (…and I don’t mean by buying and selling bogus ‘credits’!)
I would suggest that governments and others don’t throw billions into researching this stuff if there is zero chance that it would work.
It would be lovely, though, to live in your world for a bit.
Like when my Mum used to read me nice stories so I didn’t worry about the wolves under my bed.
Never heard of grifting? Money laundering? Some government programs seem to be created for the purpose of funneling money to politicians and their patrons or for laundering money.
… such as NASA’s space explorations.
“I would suggest that governments and others don’t throw billions into researching this stuff if there is zero chance that it would work.”
That’s quite funny, straws. Nah, governments never throw billions into researching stuff that won’t work. #1 — they don’t know it has zero chance of working until they try it. #2 — they don’t give a rip about wasting our money. #3, as V. Dominique points out, many get rich when billions are thrown around.
Yeah, I phrased it wrong maybe.
Probably not governments.
The people who control governments.
Back in the 1960s we knew it was all those rockets that the (USA & USSR)
governments were firing up into the sky wot was causing the inclement weather…
We didnt need The Science (TM) to tell us so !
The climate IS changing, we can’t deny that, “weather modification” or not. The expression “human induced climate change” should alert us. In every article about the climate change in the Grauniad (they have a special section) this carefully crafted expression is inserted at least a couple of times. It is possible that some of the changes are human induced but not by driving petrol cars or eating steaks, it’s more like deforestation to make room for gigantic photovoltaic panels (one example but I can think of many).
On the morning of 9/11, USA weather stations featured a satellite image of a hurricane off the northeast coast of America adjacent to NY. When the dust had settled over NY, the hurricane image disappeared.
High-pressure conditions ensured the images of the collapse were not shrouded by clouds.
Sorry Kit, I have to disagree.
The claims for man made climate change stem from a global attempt to control us by limiting our access to natural resources.
The claims that the weather is being manipulated stem from a concern that science has been hijacked by big biz and is being weaponised against us.
I really don’t see the correlation.
So you can’t see the potential for a lab-leak-style bait and switch? The correlation is clearly explained in the article. It’s flagging up a potential trap, it’s not making any hard statements about the practicalities of weather modification, and hence doesn’t contradict anything you’ve said. What’s unclear there? Let’s make sure we don’t talk past each other. A2
I agree with you Kit. That the corporate technocracy has decide to deal with those who would make weather modification a hot topic of discussion by flooding the legacy and social media with “nutter talk” so as to discredit them and those who would oppose the “cLIEmate change agenda”.
Ben Davidson from Suspicious Observers released a dispatch a couple of days ago related to this topic and the reality surrounding it. Runs 6 mins…
“HAARP, Weather War & Spraying the Sky”
Ben has a great way of saying what needs to be said in just a few minutes.
Stella and her actual-meteorologist-friend Jeff break down Hurricane Milton here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9SlDH3wCU. Jim Lee at ClimateViewer News did a great video about the usual not-quite-truthful geoengineering fearmongers, in2thinair and Dane Wigington — but it’s 2 hours long so I won’t link it. Here’s the Cliff’s Notes from X: https://x.com/i/status/1843408099354521767
IT’S THE SUN.
Isn’t interesting that all the IPCC models downplay or are completely oblivious to the sun’s direct and indirect effects to our planets weather cycles and anomalies.
Solar forcing, connectivity is the driving force behind weather, geothermal, tectonics and seismology yet somehow it gets lost in the shuffle. Without their global warming scam they would have a hard time justifying their carbon reduction scam.
They can’t control it and they can’t monetize it, so the sun doesn’t figure in the models. It’s completely obvious, and yet, mostly ignored. As Ben says, as the magnetic excursion continues, they’re going to have to acknowledge the sun’s role in everything on this planet. Did you watch David Drew’s Thunderbolts Project video (on YT) about the peer review process as a way of gatekeeping what’s “true”? Posted this past Sunday.
i will have a look thanks!
That’s not the point of the article. The article is suggesting that, even if there are legit conversations to be had about tampering with the climate, there’s a danger of an ivermectin-style bait and switch in order to further a climate change agenda. A2