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The Armchair Rioters – Part 1

Iain Davis

Building on my previous Substack post, where I discussed how the “Great Replacement conspiracy theory” is exploited, and the recent article on my website, where I discuss the real reasons for the civil unrest in the UK, over the next four posts, including this, I will continue to explore the febrile propaganda environment surrounding the UK’s so-called “far-right riots.”

I hope all of these articles will collectively outline the evidence which poses some serious questions about what happened and who was really shaking the jar that led to the unrest. A forthcoming deep-dive article will explore the jar-shakers in some detail.

Following the outbreak of disorder, the propagandists introduced us to a new concept: the armchair rioter.

Obviously, from every perspective, this is totally absurd. It is akin to the “underwater skydiver” or “rubber chisel.” It is nonsensical, self-contradictory and blatantly ridiculous. But for propagandists that doesn’t matter. All that matters is that they can create a narrative that will lead enough people to imagine the preposterous credible.

The legacy media coined terms like “armchair rioter” or “armchair thugs” to encapsulate their propagandist argument that social media users can cause civil unrest by posting content online.

For example:

An armchair thug who stirred up racial hatred on TikTok is among dozens in court over their part in violent riots.

Or:

Armchair rioter gets 20 months in jail for his Facebook posts

On 8th August 2024, the BBC reported:

The violence, in towns and cities across England and in Northern Ireland, has been fuelled by misinformation online, the far-right and anti-immigration sentiment. [. . .] [S]ocial media posts falsely speculated that the suspect was an asylum seeker who arrived in the UK on a boat in 2023, with an incorrect name being widely circulated. There were also unfounded rumours that he was Muslim.

The widely read London newspaper, the Metro, wrote:

Racist riots spread across the country after misinformation spread on social media.

Following the funeral of one of the reported Southport stabbing victims, Alice da Silva Aguiar, EuroNews which is the outlet for the European Broadcasting Union, blankly stated:

The riots were fuelled by social media users.

Again, the BBC’s Kara O’Neill, also reporting on the unrest, said:

There have been widespread riots across the country since the Southport knife attack, which has been blamed on misinformation shared online.

The Sun “newspaper” wrote:

The fake news about the Southport suspect sparked a week of far-right riots across the UK.

Sky News stated:

The riots across the UK were – in part – fuelled by a series of digital deceptions which spread like wildfire on social media. They have raged for a fortnight but were sparked by false claims online that an asylum seeker had carried out the Southport stabbings. [. . .] The pace of the spread of disinformation, and the ease at which some believed it, is a major concern for the government and law enforcement.

Cheshire Constabulary’s Chief Superintendent Alison Ross said:

We have all seen the violent disorder that has taken place across the UK over the past week, much of which has been fuelled by malicious and inaccurate communications online. It’s a stark reminder of the dangers of posting information on social media platforms without checking the accuracy. It also acts as a warning that we are all accountable for our actions, whether that be online or in person.

Assistant Chief Constable Alex Gross from Merseyside Police said:

There has been much speculation and hypothesis around the status of a 17-year-old male who is currently in police custody and some individuals are using this to bring violence and disorder to our streets. We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.

In response to the civil unrest, the new UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer said:

[. . .] let me also say to large social media companies and those who run them [. . .] violent disorder [was] clearly whipped up online. That is also a crime.

None of us should be in any doubt. According to the UK establishment, including the prime minister and senior police officers, “real” riots were sparked by people posting “misinformation” or “disinformation” on social media. This narrative is consistent and has been promoted by the entire UK legacy media.

To give yet another example, the Guardian published an article titled Online Safety Act not fit for purpose. We’ll discuss the Online Safety Act in more detail in Part 3.

Referencing the comments of the London mayor Sadiq Khan and supporting his calls for further online “regulation,” the Guardian alleged that “a week of disorder across the country” was “whipped up by far-right activists online, who falsely claimed that a Muslim immigrant was behind the mass stabbing in Southport.”

The Guardian added:

The Guardian understands that more sentences are expected on Friday for people who have admitted online incitement linked to the riots.

The Guardian either doesn’t understand much at all or is deliberately seeding a false narrative. No one has been, or indeed can be, sentenced for “incitement.” Furthermore, we shall see, there is no evidence that civil unrest was “whipped up by far-right activists online.”

Framing the armchair rioters

The initial claim, first establishing the idea that people using social media and communicating online provoked mass protests that turned to riots, was based upon a very specific assertion.

The reported story was that so-called “fake news,” from unknown sources, reported by an amateurish website, was picked up and amplified on social media, notably on ‘X,’ by alleged conspiracy theorists and so-called “far-right influencers.” This purported “disinformation” allegedly caused riots.

The Southport murders, attempted murders and aggravated assaults, on the children and their adult supervisors, were said to have occurred at approximately 11.45 on 29th July 2024. Merseyside Police declared the attack a major incident and Chief Constable Serena Kennedy issued a public statement at 19:18 on 29th July:

A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, had been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder.

The so-called Southport riot happened the following day on 30th July, after Merseyside police stated the suspect was born in Cardiff.

Earlier, on the 29th, a few social media accounts posted false rumours about the suspect. This alleged “disinformation” and “misinformation” became the focus of the legacy media and the UK government. If, however, we examine the timeline of events, it is clear that these rumours did not contribute to the disorder in Southport, nor anywhere else.

Marianna Spring is the BBC’s first social media and disinformation correspondent. On 8th August 2024, the BBC published Spring’s article The real story of the news website accused of fuelling the riots. This piece was met with great fanfare and Marianna was widely congratulated for her fantastic, if largely inaccurate, investigative journalism.

Spring’s piece focused on an article from the website Channel3Now that Spring alleged the source of false claims “widely blamed for contributing to riots across the UK.”

The Channel3Now article was posted on 29th July and incorrectly stated that “17-year-old Ali Al-Shakati from Banks” had been arrested in connection with the murders and that this individual “was on the MI6 watch list and known to Liverpool mental health services.”

Channel3News subsequently posted an apology on 31st July 2024 and stated they had removed the erroneous information from the updated article. Offering contrition to their readers, the site owners did not reveal who told them “Ali Al-Shakati” was thought responsible or that this presumably fictitious character was known to MI6.

In her article about the Channel3Now claims, Spring hinted strongly that a man she named only as Farhan wrote the Channel3Now piece. Subsequently, the BBC reported that Farhan Asif had been arrested in Pakistan for alleged cybercrime offences.

The BBC initially said Farhan Asif had been charged and then issued an apology because that information was also incorrect. The BBC stated Pakistani investigators told them that Farhan Asif had essentially misled Spring and the BBC—without referencing Spring’s report directly—and implied much of Spring’s report was wrong as a result.

The UAE outlet Gulfnews cited “Pakistan’s English daily The Dawn” as reporting where the “Ali Al-Shakati” claims had originated. Gulfnews said “the disinformation was first published on July 29 by kossyderrickent[.]com.” In turn, the Dawn reported that investigators in Pakistan had informed them “the disinformation was first published by kossyderrickent[.]com, a little-known tabloid on July 29th.”

The Pakistan-based Express Tribune, which is a partner of the International New York Times, said, when he was arrested, Farhan Asif claimed “he had simply reposted a tweet from another account titled Bernie.”

The corresponding post on Kossyderrickent cited the rumours posted by Bernadette Spofforth—Bernie or @Artemisfornow—as the origin of the false claims although Kossyderrickent reported the claims as factual.

Kossyderrickent stated:

Information reaching Kossyderrickent has it that [a] Father 17-year-old Knife stabber, Ali-Al-Shakati, stabbed 30 kids with fatal wound at holiday club in Hart Street, Southport. According to information, Ali-Al-Shakati is a Muslim terrorist suspect.”

Kossyderrickent, is a Google News-approved blog. This means it has received Google approval because it adheres to Google’s news content policies. For example, Google has judged that Kossyderrickent does not publish “hateful content.”

In her Channel3Now piece, Spring turned her attention to those who shared the rumours online. She claimed these people have “a track record of posting disinformation.” Spring alleged this “disinformation” included questioning the “the pandemic, vaccines and climate change.” Her insinuation combined distinct opinions on separate issues under one “disinformation” umbrella.

The United Nations’ (UN’s) definition of “disinformation” deems it “information that is false and deliberately created to harm a person, social group, organization or country.” Therefore, Spring was asserting that some accounts shared the false rumours to “deliberately” cause “harm.”

Marianna Spring also claimed that questioning vaccine safety or official state narratives about the pseudopandemic and climate change also supposedly amount to deliberately causing harm.

In particular, Spring alleged that the ‘X’ account run by Spofforth had “been accused of making the first post featuring the false name of the Southport attacker.” Indeed Spofforth was accused, notably by Spring herself.

Spring wrote:

One profile – belonging to a woman called Bernadette Spofforth – has been accused of making the first post featuring the false name of the Southport attacker. [. . .] The false claim that Ms Spofforth posted about the Southport attacker was quickly re-shared and picked up by a loose group of conspiracy theory influencers and profiles with a history of sharing anti-immigration and far-right ideas.

Spring’s claims were false. Spofforth was not the first to post the rumour.

Had Marianna Spring bothered to look, she would have seen that Spofforth shared a LinkedIn post from a man from Latham—eleven miles from Southport—who apparently said he was the father of children who attended the community centre where the murders are said to have occurred.

While the Latham man’s LinkedIn post has also been removed, the same account also shared a go-fund-me page for the family of one of the victims.

The false claim that Spofforth was the first to discuss the Ali Al-Shakati rumour was also pushed by Stephanie Lamy. Lamy is the co-founder of Danaides, a government contractor and “information broker.”

Lamy also contradicted Spring’s reporting:

FYI channel3NowNews is not the original source. It’s far worse than that. Spoof news website generates text (AI) from X data. That data originates from an anti-vaxx/far-right account [of] Bernie Spofforth.

Lamy’s allegation, that Spofforth used AI to spoof content and was the original source of the false information, also appears inaccurate.

A number of other accounts, some with reasonably large numbers of social media followers, shared the same Ali-al-Shakati rumours, citing the same Latham man’s post, before Spofforth. The Latham man’s account appears to be authentic and, given the other posts he shared in relation to the attack, it is distinctly possible that he made the original post about the Southport murders that Spofforth and others later re-posted.

As noted by the Sun, Spofforth added an important caveat at the beginning of her post. She said “if this is true.” Spofforth was not stating a fact. She acknowledged that the information may not be true. Spofforth was spreading rumours but seemingly clarified that’s all they were.

Advisories such as “I cannot verify this” were a common feature of many of the posts, preceding Spofforth’s, that shared the same rumours. This does not meet the UN definition of “disinformation,” contrary to the legacy media’s claims.

After clearly stating that she could not substantiate the rumours, and while she wasn’t named by police, on 8th August, the UK legacy media widely reported that Spofforth had been arrested and was being questioned by Cheshire Police for suspected “false communication” offences under the Online Safety Act 2023 (OSA). Spofforth said she had “first received this information from somebody in Southport.” We might speculate this is the presumed father from Latham whose LinkedIn post she shared. This comports with the claim on Kossyderrickent that the information came from a “father.”

On 29th July—the day before the unrest—the BBC was among the legacy media outlets that reported the police did not consider the attack terror-related and the 17-year-old suspect was from Cardiff. Yet, the day after the outbreak of disorder, the BBC alleged that people “rioted” because they believed social media posts that had already been contradicted by the police and, indeed, by the BBC and other legacy media outlets.

On 31st July 2024, Spring posted an article titled Did social media fan the flames of riot in Southport. Completely ignoring the fact that the BBC were among the many legacy media outlets that had already clarified the suspect’s personal details before the outbreak of any unrest, Spring wrote:

The fact that some of those at the rally decided to target Southport Mosque suggests that they may have been influenced by the unfounded online accusations that this had been an Islamist terror attack.

It is possible that “unfounded online accusations” led to the attack on the Mosque but it is extremely unlikely. By the end of the day, on 29th July, practically everyone knew the rumours were not true.

So, writing after the so-called “riots,” what evidence did Spring, or any other legacy media outlet, politician, police officer or state officials—who all made the same allegations—provide to substantiate their assertions that those involved in the violence were inspired by the “fake news” allegedly “spread” on social media?

What, other than assumption and insinuation, has anyone offered to substantiate any of these allegations?

The answer, to all of the above, is nothing at all.

While analysis by Lynn.global correctly identified that the man from Latham was the likely source for the false claims, the behavioural science researchers, led by CEO Shayoni Lynn, went on to allege:

The aftermath of this tragedy [the Southport murders] led to one of the most prolific disinformation campaigns that the UK has seen, leveraged particularly by far-right groups and individuals. [. . .] By the time the alleged killer was named as Axel Rudakubana, the disinformation had already taken a grip of the nation. [. . .] High-profile far-right figures amplified these false narratives. [. . .] These false narratives triggered a series of violent riots across the UK.

There isn’t a scrap of evidence to support this interpretation of events. There is no evidence of any “disinformation,” merely unsubstantiated rumours. Nor is there any evidence that these rumours took “a grip of the nation” nor that they “triggered a series of violent riots.”

In order to substantiate this leg of its narrative, Lynn.global falsely claimed the police clarified the correct personal details of the suspect at lunchtime on 30th July. Lynn.global added a completely groundless theory that the damage was already done and that it was too late for government to “get a handle on it to fact check and debunk.”

To reiterate and to be clear: The rumours had already been “debunked” by the police and the legacy media on the 29th Julythe day before the unrest.

Are we supposed to believe that only the government can establish the facts? Everyone knew the suspect was born in Cardiff and was not a first-generation immigrant, and that the incident was not terror-related, on the 29th July.

These facts alone are enough to suggest the whole “disinformation” narrative is complete rubbish. Furthermore, the alleged “research” from groups like Lynn.global indicates a deliberate attempt to manipulate public opinion and convince people otherwise.

Not only is the idea of the “armchair rioter” completely idiotic, there isn’t a scrap of evidence to substantiate the claim that anyone spread “disinformation” that “caused” any civil unrest.

Clearly there is an agenda at play here. Which is what we will start to explore in Part 2.

Iain Davis is an independent journalist a researcher from the UK. You can read more of Iain’s work at his blog IainDavis.com (Formerly InThisTogether) or follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his SubStack. His book Pseudopandemic, is now available, in both in kindle and paperback, from Amazon and other sellers. You can claim a free copy of his new book “The Manchester Attack” by subscribing to his newsletter.

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iterate jin
iterate jin
Oct 18, 2024 5:42 PM

This the same Iain? who supported Richard D Hall?
if so, Hats of to you.

Dan
Dan
Oct 14, 2024 5:35 AM

The UK is so deep in out now, there is probably no way out.

While this article is an excellent piece of journalism, it’s mired in the quicksand of this poisoness process that has engulfed all of or societies. That people have not yet woken up, signals to me that they won’t. Best run for the hills Iain. While you still can. Like the rest of us who already have.

There is no resistance to anything
Just compliance ..

titled2
titled2
Oct 13, 2024 1:19 PM

I’ve been called a keyboard warrior and armchair terrorist is now upon us.

Michael Bolton
Michael Bolton
Oct 13, 2024 6:14 AM

The violence, in towns and cities across England and in Northern Ireland, has been fuelled by misinformation online, the far-right and anti-immigration sentiment….

How strange then that the ‘mis’ information spread by the evil Nick Lowlife of Hate Not Hope who stated that ‘far right thugs’ had thrown battery acid on an Asian woman, which brought armed muslim thugs onto the streets in Middlesborough was never prosecuted. But then he’s a government spreader of mis/dis/mal info so that’s OK then is it not?

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 12, 2024 7:54 PM

Those AI illustrations are so ugly

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 11, 2024 9:10 PM

You bet there’s an agenda here! They want to censor the internet so that they can regain control of The Narrative(TM).

Michael Bolton
Michael Bolton
Oct 13, 2024 6:17 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Look no further for the answer Seamus:

Killary Clinton warns ‘We lose total control’ without social media content moderation….

suzaloop
suzaloop
Oct 11, 2024 7:57 PM

The new conspiracy nut jobs =  Armchair Rioters Terrorists are now people who have a tone.
and what that now means to another person or corporation.
Notice that since BS19, posters everywhere on all voice calls etc etc
everywhere I go visit has similar signs up
and if you politely disagree like sorry not wearing a mask or telling you my personnel status
they will use I have found your tone aggressive.

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rickypop
rickypop
Oct 11, 2024 12:21 PM

Im sitting in my armchair wondering if stating the obvious and telling the truth is a criminal offence. I may be right and I may be wrong but I can surely state my opinion without fear. Anyone is free to argue the points against me but I will not accept an ism without factual evidence to state I am prejudiced against any group.
It’s my opinion the Zionists by control of the banking system now control, governments, The justice system, Big tech, major corporations, security services, and over 80% of the media.
How else would slaughter and genocide be allowed? In fact the West is actively cooperating in the bombing of helpless people and the security of the aggressor.
To be a leader of any Western country or the EU you need to be a Zionist supporter or you won’t get out of the traps.
The Jewish people are being made scapegoats for a criminal elite hiding behind the anti-Semitism trope to ride roughshod over everything good in this world. To question any of the above is fine and to show that the percentage of Zionists compared with other groups in leadership positions is balanced should be obvious, but Im afraid that even by hiding their positions and using puppets to be the face of their corporate interests they massively outnumber other groups. Just watch Bloomberg or check the high flyers in the US government to get an idea. Then there is the friends of Israel. (Why would anybody be involved in that unless it’s the only way to the top).
Muslim extremists get the blame of many terror attacks. Yet scrutiny of the facts again points at Israel for example the Dancing Israelis in New York on 9/11, and then there is lucky old Larry Silverstein.

paul
paul
Oct 11, 2024 7:52 PM
Reply to  rickypop

You are not wrong. However I take issue with your opening statement, specifically “criminal offence”. It’s a non-sequitur. Because these freaks don’t have a right to dictate what’s lawful and what isn’t. How can they, when they are themselves criminals by their own laws? Operating under fraud. They do not have the right, any more than they have the right to steal the fruits of your labour. Or keep you from your loved ones.
It’s ALL a fraudulent scam system, please do not give it power and legitimacy by citing their ‘criminal offences’ as being real.

Paul
Paul
Oct 16, 2024 4:08 AM
Reply to  paul

The harsh treatment of the so called keyboard warriors, worked, it made many within the UK to simply shut up, or self censor, but it did not stop people outside of UK pointing out this fact, that the HMG had been harsh and freedom of speech in the UK had been damaged

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 11, 2024 9:12 PM
Reply to  rickypop

Hear, hear!

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 11, 2024 9:35 AM

A great piece about Zzzombies:

https://winteroak.org.uk/2024/10/11/the-zombie-trance/

For the Zzzombie free zone (Off G)

Anne
Anne
Oct 11, 2024 12:36 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Rudolf Steiner in series of lectures over 100 years ago talked of a time when they would create a vaccine to cut one’s connection to their soul and God.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 3:51 PM
Reply to  Anne

This moment has arrived and are here to stay, and the amount of zombies will be more and more and more, and the ones with soul and God connection will be less and less.

For some strange reasons this theme shows up in art and many films from the Zionists, saying they see them selves as “the narrow road” and the minority (500 mio) who will survive the majority and gain eternal life.

Anne
Anne
Oct 11, 2024 8:39 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

So as i am starting to hypothesise it’s one big test and those that take the less traveled and indeed harder path in terms of comforts (don’t opt into the coming digital gulag and all it’s bio medical consequences etc) will also find themselves on that narrow path.
Something i have been pondering of late

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 11, 2024 11:38 PM
Reply to  Anne

Yes but Christ and the Devil cant walk the same narrow road right? There must be some illusion and lie(s) from the Devil’s side in this game.
The Devil pretend he is the good guy and pretend and present Christ as the Devil.
Confusing for us, but in our heart we know and can feel who is who yes?
I am so f…… happy I found the heart of the Bible, so happy, it was so relieving not to bother anymore about what is what. Notwithstanding whatever the final personal judgement will be. We have sinned!

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 11, 2024 11:16 PM
Reply to  Anne

Are humans even capable of ‘cutting’ a soul connection?

I think not. The physical cutting the spiritual?

What Steiner was probably suggesting had more to do with blocking or burying the soul connection under ignorance.

In that sense, humans have succeeded.

Anne
Anne
Oct 12, 2024 12:14 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I agree can humans working for the adversary cut Gods created connection ?
Prior to 2020 i would argue not and i still land in the unlikely camp however i do believe we are witnessing a metaphysical shift in people when considering your zombie reference.
What i have observed in people these last few years and the shift right down to their personal energy fields and detachment can’t be just brought about through propaganda and mind control
Seems that something more esoteric is at play.
Steiner also talked of the fact that people were increasingly becoming so overtaken by negative spiritual influences that one doesn’t always know who or what they are conversing with.
I have faith that regardless of what has been done medically/ spellcraft/frequency (whatever other buttons and levers they can use ) that whenever God wishes he can turn the light back on.
We wait patiently and in hope we get to see a restoration of those we feel we have lost during this time.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 12, 2024 10:14 PM
Reply to  Anne

2 Corinthians 4:4 
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”

Romans 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Romans 1:26For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 12, 2024 5:45 AM
Reply to  Anne

These are people obsessed with money, especially gold, who have no interest in religion.

“They will create a virus, and sell the antidotes. Vaccine and medicine factories are working with the intelligence services.” -Muammar Kaddhafi, speech at UN, 2009

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 11, 2024 5:28 AM

I will continue to explore the febrile propaganda environment surrounding the UK’s so-called “far-right riots.”

The propaganda environment which most needs to be demolished is that which uses the term “far-right”; as though believing in sovereign nations is now “far-right”. Please stop using this concept. Don’t use it even in a “so-called” form. It functions as a shibboleth. That is, it’s usage immediately gives you away!

The important classification is between those who believe in the sovereignty of nation states and those who believe globalist governance. I suggest using the terms “globalism” and “nationism” – reserving “nationalism” for a belief in a particular nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
A is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing or single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another.[3][2][4] Shibboleths have been used throughout history in many societies as passwords, ways of self-identification, signals of loyalty and affinity, ways of maintaining traditional segregation, or protection from real or perceived threats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_system
In 1999, British Prime Minister Tony Blair gave a speech in Chicago where he “set out a new, post-Westphalian, ‘doctrine of the international community.'” Blair argued that globalization had made the Westphalian approach anachronistic.[26] Blair was later referred to by The Daily Telegraph as “the man who ushered in the post-Westphalian era”.[27] Others have also asserted that globalization has superseded the Westphalian system.[28]

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 4:10 PM

Agree we should avoid to use the word “far-right”. For what is far-right?

Far-right is violent men who has suppressed women in thousands of years in their self invented heterosexual prison called marriage.

To obstruct women to gain their own money and own personal freedom, these cruel men made women pregnant and used their children as their personal slaves and garcons.

Further these far-right men were anti-Semitists, homophobic, white work alcoholics, and many are self-hating doos, against any improvement of the environment, against the colour green, and they do always walk around mostly in brown and black shirts signalling to their secret societies where they belong.

Ultra-radical ultra- far far ultra-right Nasi-Doos would be a far more precise language to use of this despicable animal among us we the others who believe in democracy!!

p.s.
p.s.
Oct 11, 2024 4:16 AM

Henrik from Redice says that over ten years ago he interviewed a certain Scott F. Wolter (Low German surname). However, the latter seems to spread a lot of nonsense, such as “the idea that the Kensington (fake) Runestone is evidence that the Knights Templar sailed to America about one hundred years before Columbus’s voyage.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_Unearthed

https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/the-kensington-runestone-the-hooked-x-and-templars-in-america

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dy500HTyKI

Vicky is a comic character who is largely unknown in America. In the broadest sense, these are Nordic seafaring sagas. Despite the somewhat overly feminine hero, women do not seem to play a central role in the story. However, the adult men are often portrayed as fools, probably to serve the “anti-authoritarian” zeitgeist. So it can only be recommended to a limited extent, and only because of the lack of alternatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicky_the_Viking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZH9JgKvoI8

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLJmAN3iVW-6fgT_otxr82qqqs4cyp6PT

suzaloop
suzaloop
Oct 11, 2024 7:59 PM
Reply to  p.s.

Henrik from Redice from conspiriacys to rightwing poltics.
shill.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Oct 11, 2024 2:54 AM

So you got a painting of me on the header, big fucking deal !

White angry guy, fuck you !

Eat shit !

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Oct 11, 2024 2:36 AM

Iain is the best !

I don’t know if he knows it (like all the best thinkers), but he is Rome at its finest.
Fight to stop the thoughts, they come at night, mostly.
We can explain it by the something tiny percent we can see.

Great stuff !

ariel
ariel
Oct 11, 2024 9:27 PM

You can stop them by conscious breathing, but it takes practice, literally, Place your attention into the actual breathing process in the chest. When you find yourself thinking, go back to it.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 11, 2024 2:11 AM

I mean did anyone ever really count the # of people the piper lead to the river?

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Oct 11, 2024 1:23 AM

Over my next ninety hundred posts I will detail this shit, like my youtube friends never quite laying it bare.
What are we talking about ?
Doesn’t matter, to an extent.
This is wrong but most people don’t care.
Well this is where we are.
Where, haven’t got a good answer,
Neither do you.

blindsided
blindsided
Oct 10, 2024 7:50 PM

Didnt the allege killer end up on a TV advert.

sandy
sandy
Oct 10, 2024 6:55 PM

The PTB are just trying to squelch any and all dissent. Rumors are not allowed. Research, discussion and vetting are not allowed. Protests are not allowed. The only thing that is allowed is the autocratic disinformation bullsh*t the SYSTEM generates and obedience to it. It’s happening in the US too.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 10, 2024 5:53 PM

The War on the Mind
If we can make this ONE presentation go viral, we shall have struck a crippling blow to the global pestilence. As you listen, the topic becomes broader & broader. The entire world-goal of the psychopaths is laid bare. And so persuasively for so many people.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/this-is-a-war-on-the-mind

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 12:31 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Agree. Military Agencies are making and organising all these psy-ops, all of them;

Corona, 9/11, Muslims, Clima bs, LGBT, Riots, White Hats, ISIS, Gladio, Brevik Norway, Ukraine bs, Israel/Gaza bs. What is their purpose?

Control. MIC has since 1948 tried to find a way on how to manipulate people into doing what is against their interest.

Then wars could be won without the cost of expensive bullets and bombs. Big Industry took the ideas up to “win” and increase their sales figures.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 11, 2024 12:59 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Its a toothless organization that could have now, not only run out of other peoples money, but now have to resort to taxation w/o representation to make it continue to work for them.

Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf
Oct 10, 2024 5:22 PM

ANNIHILATION OR SALVATION
YOUR CHOICE
 
The world’s Governing Structures have been irredeemably corrupted by unknown forces that are now poised to effect a World Takeover under the deception of averting a climate, pandemic, or financial apocalypse. Evidence for this is set out in UN Agenda 21/30, the UN’s ‘Pact for the Future’ leading to the Great Reset and a New World Order.
 
In the present reality, there is nothing we can do to STOP THIS because we are powerless to act, with the majority unaware of the ENEMY’s existence or that they are under covert attack.
 
No ’Talking Head’ Freedom Movement, high profile Alt Media outlet, personality or podcaster or newly elected President is going to save us. JFK was the last to attempt it. They are just too powerful given their unlimited financial resources.
 
Whilst we hold the ultimate power, by virtue of numerical superiority, the ENEMY has ensured we remain isolated, divided and weak thus incapable of launching an effective counter-attack.
 
The knowing Minority calls for UNITY, but how do you actually establish unity, or apply it without a strategy?
 
THERE IS BUT ONE SOLUTION

 

https://icedrive.net/s/8A7z58gxD8RTkWfuSN8S513PFNT2

If we are going to defeat this ENEMY, we must reconfigure the WORLD in a way that effectively neutralises THEM and unites US.
 

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 10, 2024 4:21 PM

Total hoax as usual, the entire charade, obviously planned, orchestrated and deployed by Strong Cities, Strong Towns network (UN – Rockefeller Strong Cities, Strong Towns, Resilient cities, 15 minute cities, SMART cities) MI5/MI6, Scotland Yard, the Home Office, 77th brigade (online Twitter posts) the fake media, and local “police”. Ie: a bunch of lying Freemasons performing another drill.

Hired agents provocateurs, hired crisis actors, organized and choreographed “protests”, fake deaths of imaginary victims and fabricated imaginary suspects.

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 5:22 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I used to have not much time for your POV, Researcher, but I’m starting to come round to it.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 10, 2024 4:18 PM

“Over the weekend, the Commander of the US Central Command (CENTCOM), General Michael Kurilla, arrived in Israel to “coordinate” with the Israeli military and plan a military strike against Iran. Think about that for a moment: one of the highest-ranking officers in the US military is planning a war in a foreign country against another foreign country which will be fueled by American weapons, American intelligence, and American tax dollars.”

Iran responded to an Israeli missile attack on Teheran; the Israelis started it!

“Has Congress declared war on Iran or even authorized the war? No. Has this Administration explained to us why Americans suffering after the catastrophic Hurricane Helene are on their own because we need to spend billions on a war that is none of our business?”
–Ron Paul
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/10/ron-paul/american-neocons-get-their-iran-war-as-congress-sleeps/

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 5:32 PM
Reply to  Penelope

I’m starting to think these recent “wars” are as fake as everything else

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 12:37 AM
Reply to  Penelope

You guys told me the Great Israel plan with 7 wars in 5 years was obsolete. That Neocons now wanted bigger fish, Going Global Government GGG. You told me that.

But what is the above? Precisely the 7 wars in 5 years. So Papa WAS right!

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 11, 2024 9:20 PM
Reply to  Penelope

The sad fact is: if it ever came down to it, getting a declaration of war against Iran out of the US Senate would not be hard at all, given that the whole congress is ‘Israeli-occupied territory’ anyway. Fifty-three standing ovations for that genocidal freak Bibi Netanyahoo! That’s why, in this case, Ron Paul’s constitutional arguments against war just won’t work.

antonym
antonym
Oct 10, 2024 2:21 PM

October 09, 2024, Israel: “A stabbing attack in Hadera today has left six people injured, with two in critical condition and three in serious condition. The attack occurred across four different locations in the city, with the assailant targeting civilians before attempting to flee on a scooter.
The attacker, identified as Ahmad Jabarin, a 36-year-old Israeli-Arab from Umm al-Fahm, was neutralized by armed civilians and police after they cornered him on Herbert Samuel Street”

LOL
LOL
Oct 10, 2024 3:53 PM
Reply to  antonym

neutralised!

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 4:16 PM
Reply to  antonym

These type of “accidents” are described in the Bible to have happened 2000 years ago too, against Roman occupiers.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 10, 2024 1:25 PM

NYC Police torched their own vehicle!
Jun 4, 2020
Raw footage by Lincoln Karim

Muppet Show
Muppet Show
Oct 10, 2024 1:08 PM

I confess to being an armchair rioter, imagining people setting police riot vans on fire, riot coppers fleeing in disarray before a massive angry mob equipped with helmets, gas masks and big sticks, to the sound of hardcore punk music, all without leaving the plush comfort of my non-vegan leather armchair!

It may not win the war, but it’s better than youtube!

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Oct 10, 2024 1:02 PM

It’s notable that ‘the truth’ has no place in a conversation about information identities.

By now the internet is almost entirely a wreck, a hall of mirrors, loops and instantly generated fake/sham websites which give the appearance of having been pre existing to the search query.

The pattern is predictable

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 11, 2024 5:58 AM

Once digital ID for Internet is enforced, any comment that is “disruptive”, false (“disinformation”), seditious, libelous of the oligarchy or hurtful (e.g., “anti-semitic”) will result in an efficient police visit to make an example of you. I see no solution except mass dissent, i.e., all social media platforms and even blogs will have to collapse through withheld usage. Start by dropping parasites who bar encrypted e-mail because they want to read the e-mail for their masters.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Oct 10, 2024 12:54 PM

Impressive and thorough analysis of piles and piles of mainstream media rubbish pushing ridiculous Hegelian dialectic agenda. It might be just as effective to say: ‘turn off and tune out.’

The British government knows better than anyone how to measure the tolerance threshold or their tortured sheeple and lead them down the primrose path.

Scapegoating intellectuals and free-thinkers is the sine qua non of keeping the lid tight on the restive hordes; but, as warned before, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

Skooshny
Skooshny
Oct 10, 2024 12:32 PM
Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 9:30 AM
Reply to  Skooshny

His name was Mr. Last and this was not a coincidence! This guy had his last chance……and lost it.

GR-watch
GR-watch
Oct 10, 2024 11:58 AM

i saw some statistics that covered the year before the UK riots. the number of arrests for unapproved online posts made by the UK government is many times more than the number of arrests made in Russia.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 10, 2024 11:35 AM
Muppet Show
Muppet Show
Oct 10, 2024 12:22 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Seems to be about a year old…. let me guess, it didn’t get anywhere?

Matt Black
Matt Black
Oct 10, 2024 11:20 AM

imho this is what its about:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/us-immigration-policy-should-take-cue-from-biblical-principles

[immigrants] must accept the Seven Noahide Commandments, a set of universal moral laws.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 11, 2024 12:52 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Yes, and not only must they adhere to Dooish Law, they must also be due shepherds.

Joseph instructs his brothers to emphasize their expertise as shepherds to the Pharaoh, thus presenting themselves as shepherds as the Egyptians was too stupid to be shepherds over their own sheeple, thus filling a gap in the Egyptian economy.

The Pharaoh responded positively, even asking that the most “capable men” among them be given authority over his personal livestock. See? Directly from the Holy Scriptures!

THIS is the real cause of the many many Riots in US and the Armchair Rioters.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 11, 2024 9:24 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

There’s nothing even biblical, let alone universal, about Noahide Law. It’s found in the Babylonian Talmud, not in the Bible.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 11, 2024 11:21 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Let us test your comment:

The Seven Laws of Noah include prohibitions against worshipping idolscursing Godmurderadultery and sexual immoralitythefteating flesh torn from a living animal, as well as the obligation to establish courts of justice.

Sorry Seamus, you have to pass Ground School again. Your comment is NOT due nor approved. Minus 3! (you can scream censorship all you want).

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Oct 10, 2024 11:09 AM

Dis-information isnt the problem, government lying and cover-ups is !

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 10, 2024 10:47 AM

Apart from the evil mis-, dis-, shis-, whatever- info kicked off by the Southposrt stabbings and the unutterably evil infinitely far right anti vax bloodthirsty protests, punch ups, slaughter on the streets possibly involving poor defenceless trans children needing their genitalia cut up and also microwaved beheaded babies (or am I getting my news stories mixed up?), has there been any info update on the Southport stabbings themselves?

Jeremiah Bullfrog
Jeremiah Bullfrog
Oct 10, 2024 2:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Should our first question be – were there any real stabbings?

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 10, 2024 9:00 PM

Always.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 10, 2024 4:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think the court case has been set for January.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 10, 2024 9:00 PM

January which year?

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 11, 2024 9:10 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The January after we’ve forgotten.

judith
judith
Oct 11, 2024 12:32 PM

That’s hilarious.

Sad, but hilarious.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 10, 2024 8:54 AM

The spread of misinformation and disinformation to create a deranged reaction?

No wonder the corporate media are so upset – that’s their job!

antonym
antonym
Oct 10, 2024 8:47 AM

Actually dangerous for society are armchair bureaucrats; too many woke/ marxist ex-hippies with short grey hair now and a fat sure income who think they can’t be fired from power whatever happens. That’s why Covid lockdowns were not affecting them.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 10, 2024 8:23 AM

Following the outbreak of disorder, the propagandists introduced us to a new concept: the armchair rioter.

Other than perhaps in Belfast, where the indigenous working class united across the traditional divide, there were no such riots – neither armchair nor otherwise. Instead, there were a series of theatrical productions involving the police and teams of bussed-in crisis actors. It seems that a few locals got caught up in these pseudo-events – videoed lobbing a brick, pushing a flaming wheelie-bin, or passing something combustible to be thrown on a fire – but these were just useful idiots who got lured into a psyop.

Hele
Hele
Oct 10, 2024 7:31 AM

News media as Chorus:

“The chorus speaks directly to the audience. Their purpose is to underscore the moral themes, actions, character development, and messages of a story to the audience.”

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 10, 2024 6:50 AM

‘Mariana Spring: you are a scientifically unqualified arts graduate who has never had a scientific job in her life, is that correct?’

‘Yes, but I have a superior analytical mind due to my excellent education.’

‘Is that so: does your superior analytical mind lead you to the conclusion that politicians in the UK are in general corrupt little wastrels on the make and on the take?’

‘No comment’.

‘Ah, so you have no comment about the people whose actions and inactions can cause the greatest changes to UK life, but you are extremely voluble about the little people who can apparently ’cause riots’ and ‘intentionally cause harm through misinformation’?

‘I comment on matters of importance to the British public’.

‘Oh really: who decides what is important to the British public, then?’

‘In my case, the superior and more successful members of UK public life’.

‘Ah: so you are saying that being successful in an absolutely corrupt UK public life is a mark of ‘superiority’, no?’

‘I’m saying that people with a decent education who are well-to-do are best placed to understand what’s important for Britain.’

‘Really: so mass uncontrolled immigration of young male migrants, none of whom are here for any reason other than being handed out money for contributing nothing is ‘important for Britain’, is it?’

‘What’s important for Britain is that hate speech does not corrode the sense of well-being for British people’.

‘Do you consider supporting Israel in genocide to be ‘promoting wellbeing of Palestinian people’? There’s masses and masses of intentional misinformation on the topics of Gaza and ‘Israel’s right to defend itself’ out there, you know.’

‘The Middle East is a highly complex topic, which makes adjudication a very difficult matter’.

‘Is it made simpler for you by rich Jews telling Starmer to sack you if you came out highlighting Israeli misinformation about the 7th October 2023?’

‘I didn’t agree to talk about Israel when agreeing to give this interview’.

‘Ok….so tell me about your qualifications in climate science, in atmospheric physics and chemistry, in oceanic studies, in agriculture and forestry. Do you have any?’

‘No.’

‘So why does an unqualified 28 year old, whose sole career experiences were working for a while for the Guardian and on Newsnight, suddenly become the wisest woman on earth concerning climate science, its complexities and corruption, its politics and its criminality?’

‘I received important training in how to interrogate evidence.’

‘If you claim that the BBC is capable of interrogating evidence rigorously, I’m afraid you are in need of some re-education, young lady. The BBC swallows lies wholesale, regurgitates propaganda with the best of them and has been complicit in more misinformational scandals and -scams than King Charles has had hot dinners, since its foundation in the 1920s.’

‘Says who’.

‘Says people who aren’t paid by Keir Starmer and don’t do what rich Jews tell them to do’.

‘So people who deliberately spread misinformation, then?’

‘You really are a numpty, you know, Spring. Rigorous analysis comes from the independent-minded, not from Establishment hucksters like you. What’s your salary as the BBC’s misinformation guru, by the way?’

‘That’s none of your business.’

‘On the contrary, it is absolutely everyone’s business. You claim to be the Popess of misinformation, a source of infallible wisdom and truth. The taxpayers are forced to pay your salary upon pain of criminal charges. They have an absolute right to know what they have to pay for you to misrepresent truth on behalf of Keir Starmer’s government, the BBC’s paedophile-appeasing Establishment, the billionaires’ cabal of grand larceny, warmongering and criminality.’

‘I don’t like the way that this interview is going.’

‘Really, well I don’t like snooty, unqualified, greasy-pole climbing sycophants creaming far too much money for being an Establishment fraud. Let’s talk about your qualifications in biomedicine, your technical knowledge of vaccines. Got any whatsoever?’

‘That’s not fair, I care about the UK passionately.’

‘No you don’t. You care about greasy little Marianna Spring’s status in London and the South East, you care about the size of your monthly pay cheque and you care about doing the Establishment’s bidding so that you get an even more highly paid job doing their bidding in the future. What’s the role of IgG4 in the immune response?’

‘I’d have to go look that up, I’m afraid.’

‘I know you would, that’s why I asked – to prove you are an immunological ignoramus. Tell me the implications of repeated Covid19 vaccinations inducing allergenic reactions, not immune reactions’.

‘I’d have to read up on that….’

‘Not good enough, grifter. You have to know these things if you claim to be Popess of disinformation. Induction of allergenic reactions means that vaccinations cannot be effective, irrespective of whether they are safe or not. That’s the most fundamental requirement of proving that the vaccines are useless, after all. Repeated use causes the body to adapt to their presence, not eliminate them. Before you say I’m spreading disinformation, think carefully about the numerous peer-reviewed studies proving precisely what I’ve just said.’

‘I don’t think this interview continuing serves any useful purpose.’

‘You mean, you’re getting ratty that I’m showing you up for the Establishment fraud that you are, eh?’

‘Do you know who you are talking to?’

‘Yes, a 28 year old ignoramus that sucked enough political cocks to be granted the role of highly paid useful idiot.’

‘SECURITY!! Escort this repulsive old man off the premises. NOW!!!!’

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 10, 2024 9:12 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

What a coup Rhys.
Securing an interview with Her Royal Whineness!

To be fair, I think your questions were a tad rhetorical and mischievous, but she took them in her strutting stride and rose to the occasion.

Well done both of you.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 10, 2024 9:46 AM
Reply to  Johnny

igG4?

That’s another story:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Oct 10, 2024 11:20 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Very well done, Marianna Spring, the ‘expert’ misinformation spreader.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/10/17/marianna-spring-and-bbc-disinformation/

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 10, 2024 11:35 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Excellent. Sums it up nicely.

Fran Crowe
Fran Crowe
Oct 10, 2024 11:39 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Brilliant 👍.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 10, 2024 4:56 AM

“Everybody’s doin’, just what they’re told to, and
nobody wants to go to jail.”

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 10, 2024 1:37 AM

Clearly there is an agenda at play here. Which is what we will start to explore in Part 2.

Labeling everyone a terrorist, introduction of Digital ID’s and a further clamp down on free speech in a bid to win the losing war of the narrative. (See H Clinton’s recent remarks)

Let us not rule out a fake alien invasion Hollywood style as the grand finale.
But before that we might have to endure Divoc-91 part deux as early as 2025.
Nearly forgot the CBDC’s. in 2028 (reading between the bankers lines)

Muppet Show
Muppet Show
Oct 10, 2024 12:53 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

Fake nuclear attacks (“nukes” don’t actually work) are becoming their most likely next psy-op. Martial law and lockdown due to invisible “fallout”, quarantine of “contaminated” persons or entire groups, “contaminated” food and livestock destroyed leading to shortages, etc…

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 10, 2024 4:13 PM
Reply to  Muppet Show

Ah… of course. “Contamination”. Lol.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 11, 2024 9:47 PM
Reply to  Muppet Show

That’s when all the vaxxers suddenly drop at once. They’ll blame it on ‘radiation sickness,’ no doubt.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 11, 2024 11:55 PM
Reply to  Muppet Show

I thought they had already tried the nuke psyop with Russia threatening to take out the rat’s in London first. In my view the contamination can only come from what “They” are doing to the food, water and surroundings. And only hell knows what is in those “weather modifiers” aerosol containers.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Oct 10, 2024 1:29 AM

Marianna Spring is the BBC’s first “disinformation correspondent”? really? because it seems to me that just about EVERY correspondent I’ve seen or heard on their programs for years now has been a disinformation correspondent

it’s really useful to have an objective picture of the sequence of events here, but, not to quibble too much, the conclusion that “everyone knew” something on the 29th of July simply because it was reported in the legacy media does not seem particularly justified, considering how little credibility these souces have anymore among large numbers of Brits

we probably all remember the scandal touched off by Orson Welles’s radio adaptation of “The War of the Worlds”, which apparently prompted hordes of listeners to flee their homes because they were brought to believe that an invasion from outer space was imminent! it seems incredible if you actually listen to this show, which is so obviously not like a real news broadcast that you’d have to be an utter bumpkin to be duped! nowadays audiences ought to be a bit more sophisticated, oughtn’t they? what absurdity that some random blog post should be convincing anyone of anything, let alone serving as a reason to go off and commit acts that could cause death or lead to arrest

by the way, is this UN definition the basis of the UK’s censorship policy? it would be a major challenge, I imagine, to prove intent to harm in any legitimate court of law, particularly if, as here, the person communicating something explicitly cites a source and expresses doubt about that source’s validity

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 10, 2024 1:25 AM

Another ‘enemy’ to fear, when the real enemies of Truth and justice are in our faces, on our screens and standing in line waiting for the next big scare campaign.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 10, 2024 2:36 AM
Reply to  Johnny

The Proletariat need to attack something within reaching distance and preferably unarmed.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 10, 2024 3:08 AM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

The best attack is to endeavour to live a good Life, by not letting the bastards grind you down.

They will all self destruct psychologically and die empty and unloved: Victims of their own wilful ignorance and avarice.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 11, 2024 11:45 PM
Reply to  Johnny

👍

mersay
mersay
Oct 9, 2024 9:24 PM

good collections of articles Iain, your the only real journalist on the site to be honest.
may I also add…
Wasnt just the normal media selling it as bad the normal alt media MSM lot did the usual and reposted stage fake riot photos/videos that looked so staged.

There was no riots. it was another version of internet manufactured hysteria and since then we now have new terminology’s like 2 tier policing.

I dont believe people where being arrested at home for reposting or tweeting.
this is another version of adl type scare tactics to keep people worried and at the same time glued to the digital prison now called alt news.

as another pointed out there was more hysteria about the southport thing than there was about English white children being forced to wear masks and get tested 3 times aweek and this manufactured hysteria also fits the middle east israhel gen)cide and helps sells the migrant dingy psyop.

Rutabaga
Rutabaga
Oct 9, 2024 9:52 PM
Reply to  mersay

your(sic) the only real journalist on the site to be honest.

I have to say that upsets me, but I guess I have to respect your right to say it, even if it seems very rude to exploit their respect for free speech in order to insult them.

I also disagree with you completely. I like Ian Davis a lot, but to say he’s the only real journalist here is just shocking.

Lemme tell you OffGuardian saved my sanity during covid, and I know a lot of other people feel the same. They were calling out the BS back before almost anyone else. Their analysis was way ahead of anyone else in the game. A lot may have caught up now but OG was out front all the way. They called out the lab leak story as being phony as soon as it happened and boy that was a surprise to me as I was falling for it.

I have been reading them now for more than four years and I have literally never known them to take an easy line or throw out a lazy thought.Their takes are always intelligent, principled and even if I don’t agree with them they make me think. They have opened my eyes to fresh thinking and new perspectives a dozen times at least, probably more. I can’t think of another alternative media platform I have more respect for.

Just wanted to say that, without wanting to take anything away from your opinion.

Hengist
Hengist
Oct 9, 2024 10:02 PM
Reply to  Rutabaga

Well said.

mersay
mersay
Oct 10, 2024 9:09 AM
Reply to  Rutabaga

New icon, anyone conspiracy minded would think it was an member of the inhouse team like the reviews you get about company’s what seem unreal.;0)
Your allowed your opinion and I am allowed mine.

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 10:23 AM
Reply to  mersay

I’ve been a regular here since 2016 and I’m sure Rutabaga has been posting for at least a year. Don’t remember seeing you around before though.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Oct 10, 2024 12:03 AM
Reply to  mersay

I share many of your suspicions and appreciate the endorsement. There are many dilligent researchers and journalists published at OffGuardian, including Kit and Catte, and it is very important outlet for all of our work. So, while I am glad that you think me among them I am just one of many journalists found at OffGuardian. I am somewhat surprised you dismiss their work. Personally, I think your dismissal is misplaced.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 10, 2024 12:55 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Deftly handled, sir. And you’re right, while the OP is entitled to their opinion, perhaps if they gave other authors here more of a chance they’d appreciate the huge array of talented analysts we are lucky enough to host at Offg. Blessings to you, Iain, and your brilliant work. A2

mersay
mersay
Oct 10, 2024 9:42 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Iain,
I do regularly dismiss there work.
There not journalist, they repeat twitter accounts and couple of newspaper articles then throw a few words together and pretend to be knowledgeable on a subject and the chemtrails article yet again showed that.
Fake binary is another name for controlled op.
there is nothing new they have done which is journalistic and your being professional as they publish you and I very much doubt your allowed to not have another stance..?
I am allowed to have my go to author on a blog and give basic reasons why.
Banning people for having an different opinion yet screaming mainstream censors is another reason.

People can easily debate you Iain without the threat of being censored or being placed in forever pending unlike the rest of them who cant defend there weak position without 3 armed adx with the trigger censor button.

Repeating MSM articles who they say are untrustworthy then reposting twitter posts with a little bit of Christydoom Conservative mishmash MSM alternative word salad is not journalism.

what ever next..? getting banned for saying they was not my favorite sounds like a dictatorship!

Rosy
Rosy
Oct 10, 2024 10:06 AM
Reply to  mersay

what ever next..? getting banned for saying they was not my favorite sounds like a dictatorship!

You aren’t banned though, you’re here splurging badly spelled random abuse on the site giving you free space to do it in. I wish they would ban a few trolls.

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 10:57 AM
Reply to  mersay

There not journalist,

Where not journalist? (pace Young Frankenstein)

they repeat twitter accounts and couple of newspaper articles then throw a few words together and pretend to be knowledgeable on a subject

You mean they quote sources and text from different places and then add their own commentary?

Isn’t that what a great deal of journalism amounts to? It’s definitely what Ian D is doing in this article.

Fake binary is another name for controlled op.

No, it isn’t.

there is nothing new they have done which is journalistic and your being professional as they publish you and I very much doubt your allowed to not have another stance..?

Sorry, can’t comment on that as I don’t know what it means

I am allowed to have my go to author on a blog and give basic reasons why.

Yes you are. Though you didn’t actually do the last part.

Banning people for having an different opinion yet screaming mainstream censors is another reason.

Another reason for…? Feels like an unfinished thought. Who’s been banned? You? Obviously not, you’re right here.

People can easily debate you Iain without the threat of being censored or being placed in forever pending unlike the rest of them who cant defend there weak position without 3 armed adx with the trigger censor button.

Again, you’re not censored are you. And let’s be honest the comments here are full of trolls and others bashing the site from dawn till dusk. It gets a bit annoying wading through them. I think this site could do with a little more monitoring not less. Good critiques of articles are always worth reading, but generic abuse of the site or other commenters is a waste of space imo. Ditto people posting uncensored complaints about being censored! Do you think we’re too stupid to see what you’re doing?

Repeating MSM articles who they say are untrustworthy then reposting twitter posts with a little bit of Christydoom Conservative mishmash MSM alternative word salad is not journalism.

Are you sure you’re not getting this site confused with GB News or somewhere? Like I said I’ve been reading OffG regularly since 2016 and I can’t recognise anything they put out as being anything like any of that. They don’t repeat MSM articles or post Christian stuff. Word salad?

what ever next..? getting banned for saying they was not my favorite sounds like a dictatorship!

Except you haven’t been banned. So, what are you talking about?

mersay
mersay
Oct 10, 2024 3:54 PM
Reply to  MLS

Thanks admin for the critique.
my above comment did get placed in needing thought approval pending by the approvers.
Thank you for allowing it.

This all started as I said Iain was the only real journalist on the site (get over it) and the usual appeared out of no where names come in force screaming how dare you.
reposting twitter and newspaper article is cheap new media it is not real journalism.
it is regurgitatism.

If that is a sackable offence then grow up.
I like Iain as he is a journalist and the rest are limited in scope with there level of research and knowledge on topics and fake binary with it controlled op is not new.
New lick of paint on someone else concept faking it as your own creation.

And let’s be honest the comments here are full of trolls and others bashing the site from dawn till dusk. It gets a bit annoying wading through them.

.according to other sites this is the adx commenting with there many handles as the above is either one of the authors or one of the adx hiding behind it.

I also have to wade through fake comments about how amazing the author or articles is. when in fact it is poor.
I like the commentator more than the authors and have donate to the site for the commentators comments in why I come hear..

Now throwing your toys out the pram because someone thinks your not as good as you think you are.

like I am not the best writer.
I am sure I want get woke with it or lose sleep.

Unless you got your feeling hurt as your not my favorite.

and yes this at times this site does have GBnews feel to it and Iain articles give the site some realness as other think it is a dassom unit masquerading as alt media.

unlike the rest of them who cant defend there weak position without 3 armed adx with the trigger censor button.

Point above shows this to be true.

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 5:19 PM
Reply to  mersay

I think you might be genuinely disturbed. I’m not gonna engage any more. Too weird. I think the mods should block you tbh

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 10, 2024 5:21 PM
Reply to  mersay

That wasn’t admin, admin operates openly, which we get a lot of flak for.

In fact Admin really can’t win, can we? Either we’re too handsy or we’re pulling strings under assumed identities. My granddaddy always said, beware anyone putting you between a rock and a hard place.

If we’re really playing this undignified game, YOU could easily be one of many disgruntled regulars. Some people here clearly don’t enjoy seeing this community regulating itself and taking pride in itself, for whatever reason.

I’d be surprised if questions regarding your true identity hadn’t occurred to others already, who are perhaps more delicate than to point this out in public.

I suggest we don’t go down that road.

Since we reserve the right to deal with trolls who make evidence free claims to undermine trust in this community, you will now be placed on premod. You will be released if you demonstrate you’re posting in good faith, which is a negotiation in trust and entirely at admin’s discretion. A2

PS. You’re of course entitled to your POV about our authors. We never limit opinions, if they’re expressed decently and don’t resort to evidence free accusation. I can assure you, our amazing and experienced authors have heard much, much worse, especially during Covid times. They might take note, for instance, that you clearly have a divisive agenda and opt to filter your opinion accordingly.

Rutabaga
Rutabaga
Oct 10, 2024 7:44 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I began reading this site March 2020 after the world went nuts. It was reading your takedowns of the lunacy that kept me from feeling like I was losing it given I live in a retirement community in eastern USA where folks have been lining up to get masked and jabbed. My own wife among them.  I owe you a heck of a lot, sure do.

If you don’t mind me saying I think you are too lenient with people coming here and disrespecting what you do. I don’t see any comparable latitude given for rudeness and disruption on any other site. Free speech is one thing but this person is a bottom feeder with nothing to contribute but spite and abuse.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 10, 2024 7:59 PM
Reply to  Rutabaga

Thank you Rutabaga that means an incredible amount, and it’s an honour and privilege to have been able to help. Really, truly, you’re very welcome and thank you again. I will take your suggestion to the rest of the admin crew, you may have a point. All the very best to you, Sam.

mersay
mersay
Oct 10, 2024 8:01 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

case and point.

banned for saying Iain is the only journalist on the site.

I wont donate again.

Prehaps moving forward tell people like you did in the weak article next day how to comment.

what ever next..? getting banned for saying they was not my favorite sounds like a dictatorship!

Except you haven’t been banned. So, what are you talking about?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 10, 2024 8:40 PM
Reply to  mersay

No you’re not banned, you get held in premod until admin clears your comment (which you haven’t been until now). Given your behaviour, this is lenient compared to most sites. May the record show, we publish comments without prejudice. However, we owe it to this community not to let discussion be ruined by those who wish ill. If you can nominate a better alternative news site forum, please do so. It’ll be published, you have my word. Now, all other discussion on this theme is closed. You’ve had your say, and we’ve been more than tolerant. A2

Muppet Show
Muppet Show
Oct 10, 2024 12:57 PM
Reply to  mersay

THEY ARE, NOT THERE
YOU ARE, NOT YOUR

MLS
MLS
Oct 10, 2024 2:41 PM
Reply to  Muppet Show

Yes! I was going to say that but my post was already long enough!

Emily Durron
Emily Durron
Oct 9, 2024 8:29 PM

Like hurricane Milton, the politicians and media have a pre-prepared narrative that tells you what they want you to believe and what they expect you to do. Milton is all about climate change – all lies – and the Southport killings required immediate intervention to ensure that the legitimate public anger could be dismissed righteously.

News management and maintenance of control is the entire agenda.

Fran Crowe
Fran Crowe
Oct 10, 2024 11:45 PM
Reply to  Emily Durron

News management and maintenance of control is the entire agenda.
This x 1 billion. Worldwide.

Jax
Jax
Oct 9, 2024 8:24 PM

Anyone who’s paid the slightest bit of attention knows that so-called “misinformation” or “disinformation” is anything the cabal doesn’t like. Furthermore, it will be the justification for mass censorship on a scale we’ve not yet seen in the west.

Expect to see Digital ID – a “driving license for the Internet” as some war criminals have put it – to be rolled out in the not-too-distant future. Without which, you won’t be able to access the internet and all internet activity will be tightly monitored and controlled.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 10, 2024 1:40 AM
Reply to  Jax

The internet will still be accessible despite a Digital ID, we just won’t be able to rant as we once did for fear of the gulag.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 11, 2024 11:13 PM
Reply to  Jax

Like Faecesbook?

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 9, 2024 5:57 PM

What the official world doesn’t seem to understand is that all this unrest isn’t just someone stirring the pot for nefarious purposes but rather its a symptom of deep unhappiness among large sections of the population. Sure, it might be exploited, rumor mills are probably working overtime (as usual) and so on but trying to address the symptoms without addressing, or even acknowleging, the underlying causes is just joining in the same game.

I could say that “You made this bed so you’ll have to lie in it” which is certainly true but hardly constructive. I watched the steady drift towards neoconservatism 40-50 years ago, the steady drumbeat in the media, the attacks on people who dared to speak out against it and decided that for me, at least, the best course was to run for it. (I ended up in the US where some might say it was more frying pan to fire but that’s my problem.) The naysayers’ predictions did come true, though, and this collision between what was promised (“Sid, the stakeholder”, “You’re all going to be rich!”) and reality has likely caused a lot of internal unhappiness as people finally come to grips with the idea that the lottery tickets they were given in exchange for national wealth were mostly worthless. Now we have the search for scapegoats (immigrants, the EU, the Chinese, the Russians and for all I know the Martians) and a sort of “MAGA” like nostalgia for a time when everything was better (it wasn’t but that’s the beauty of nostalgia, its selective). As for the people charged with sitting on top of this heap, they’re OK so naturally they don’t see why there’s so much complaining going on, its just got to be agitators. Obviously.

(What was that song again?

Banana Republic
Septic Isle
Screaming in the Suffering sea
It sounds like crying
Everywhere I go
Everywhere I see
The black and blue uniforms
Police and priests

Boomtown Rats, 1980.)

Let's be Frank Joshua
Let's be Frank Joshua
Oct 9, 2024 6:43 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

I couldn’t have said it better –

The naysayers’ predictions did come true, though, and this collision between what was promised (“Sid, the stakeholder”, “You’re all going to be rich!”) and reality has likely caused a lot of internal unhappiness as people finally come to grips with the idea that the lottery tickets they were given in exchange for national wealth were mostly worthless. 

I remember it well… (‘the shareholder democracy’)

https://youtu.be/-bv_wYwJ_6Y?si=drV_cwI91qVSJ2ZU

LOL
LOL
Oct 9, 2024 5:28 PM

testing for “pending” censorship

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 9, 2024 6:02 PM
Reply to  LOL

How often do you intend on doing this? It could get a little annoying for others.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 10, 2024 8:53 AM
Reply to  LOL

The more Comments you make, the more you’ll go into ‘Pending’….

A bit like covid testing in fact.