No one cares if the boots exist…
1984 is MUCH more relevant than the more simplified versions we see in movies.
Catte Black
What struck me last time I read 1984 was how much I had missed in it. It’s much much more than the images of brutal repression we tend to remember.
I was struck by how familiar the Party’s mind control methodology now seems – with the emphasis on invented, irrational narrative and willing suspension of critical faculties.
The war doesn’t need to actually happen…
It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist.”
Emanuel Goldstein, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism (George Orwell’s 1984)
No one cares if the boots exist…
…The Ministry of Plenty’s forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at a hundred and forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than a hundred and forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all….”
Reality is whatever the Party says it is, as O’Brien tells Winston…
We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation—anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wished to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of nature. We make the laws of nature.“
You see, the Party has divined that events don’t need to have any physical reality in order to be effective as propaganda, they just need to exist in the minds of the people as a believed consensus reality.
In fact, O’Brien is aware that manipulating people into accepting a fictional ‘reality’ gives the Party even more control, since it divorces them from any possible check or balance. In this world O’Brien can float off the floor like a soap bubble, victories can happen and un-happen again, chocolate rations can get bigger while decreasing, boots can be created – just by saying so.
And even the subversives are lost in the matrix.
O’Brien is the real author of Goldstein’s book. Winston was ‘permitted’ to read it, while being watched all the while. His ‘rebellion’ carefully managed, monitored and eventually extinguished.
So, even the anti-establishment narratives are based solely on the fictions generated by the Party and can therefore only take the people reading them ever deeper into helpless delusion. They live and die without ever contacting veridical reality. They are all lost, even those who think they aren’t.
How close are we to living in this world? How many of our rebellions are already managed and cultivated?
Simpleminded binary narratives are now the currency of so much debate, a lot of them contrived so that both “sides” end up promoting the same establishment agendas. It’s increasingly hard to navigate them and more and more people seem not to even try, succumbing to the lure of that pre-packaged outrage and the easy sense of virtue and comradeship acquired by adopting the flavour of your choice.
Will there be a point of no return, where objective truth is finally snuffed out of everyone’s awareness and all we have is O’Brien’s curated “alternative news”, served up to us as a harmless little virtual reality entertainment for contrarians?
What must we do to hang on to those precious threads of real, organic resistance and real, unpolluted independent thought?
The narrative managers probably don’t intend to make that easy for us that’s for sure.
I think a small first step might be to go read Orwell’s book again.
If you’re like me you might find it surprises you and resonates more with you now, post-2020, than it ever did.
First published on Catte’s Corner on Substack
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Kamala makes perfect sense then
people spend their whole lives being directed by the consuming morass of persuasive conditioning, the mesmetic power that’s studiously cultivated for the requisite abandon that concedes movements to the influence of the fabricator.
“…real, unpolluted independent thought”. It’s a darling concept, but I strongly doubt that there is such a thing. From the day we are born we are subject to deliberately nuanced narratives and state propoganda, whether via institutions such as education, health or media, or simply through second hand, unwitting versions set down in fiction, and even from dissenting, alternative voices unaware of their own captured intellectual antagonism. Nothing is real, and no one is to be trusted. Critics will call me dark, negative and antihuman. Fair enough.
A line from Sillitoe’s Saturday Night & Sunday Morning comes to mind: ‘whatever people say I am or think I am, that’s what I’m not’. It’s got a satisfying Cartesian resonance to it.
At the beginning of the ovid psyop there was a new hugely advertised series called Brave new world.
Rubbing it in our faces.
“The war doesn’t need to actually happen.”
I remember thinking this at the beginning of the Russian SMO in Ukraine.
In those first few days/weeks, Lira’s on the ground reporting (& others) seemed to show a much quieter Kiev than the MSM was purporting to exist.
Not suggesting that the conflict wasn’t happening at all, or that it hasn’t subsequently developed into a full blown nightmare, just that there was a significant divergence between the situation as it was on the ground & the situation as it was being reported at that time.
The deluge of blatantly manufactured/fake news on the MSM was stunning, almost comical,,, as shown in this compilation from those early days,,, as if the perception of an all out war actually preceeded an all out war:
https://rumble.com/v10nvlj-us-ukraine-part-5-fake-news.html
Everyone can agree that 1984 is one of the most important Books written in the past century. It contains a lot of truth about how «the system» works. But who was this man? Was Eric Arthur Blair some sort of visionary random nobody? Far from it, it would seem. Peerage connections all over the place. This man wrote 1984 as an insider.
https://mileswmathis.com/orwell.pdf
Interesting.
“Which brings us in full circle back to that. That short novel is still sold as anti-Stalinist, but do you really think that is why the CIA bought it and pushed it after the war? No. The book has been promoted so much for so long because it is. . . anti-Revolutionary. The moral of the story seems to be not to bother having a revolution, since it will just makes things worse. Or at least more of the same. The leaders of the revolution are sure to devolve into the same sort of pigs as the old rulers, so why bother? With pigs in charge after the revolution, you will wish you had the men back to run things, since at least they have the capital to get things done. If that isn’t the lesson of the book, what is?”
The pigs are ourselves.
We become pigs when we get the power and see ourselves, who we really are.
just that humans are vulnerable and can be broken Ithink
https://www.reddit.com/r/MathisianHaven/
< O’Brian could float off the floor like a soap bubble >
Nothing new here. Prof Perry, in his History of Civilization, recounts how ancient peoples used to gather in the town square to watch the town councillors float up into the heavens.It’s called superstition, and has been a major driving force in history.
I keep telling people to “read the book”. The movies are great stories but the miss the point entirely almost as if they were made with the explicit purpose of diluting the message.
Orwell’s other works are well worth reading as well. Not just his books but his papers on language and political thought (“1984” can be thought of a way of making what many would have thought a dry, academic, message accessible). What he was saying then is as relevant today as it was then.
For those of us who are of a nihilistic persuasion I’d recommend “The Road to Wigan Pier”. Understanding the context — the geography and history of the area he’s talking about, both of that period and today — and the notion that the ‘pier’ mentioned in the book’s title has become tourist attraction, sort of, will go a long way towards explaining why politics is both relevant and important.
The inverse of parasitic government is not elimiinating government. Anarchy is informal rule by the biggest local thugs. Look beyond the provincial propaganda and heavy censorship of the outside world.
One part of Mexico governs itself independently, keeping the government out. There is a message in that for the fate of oligarchic parasites.
That’s not true. We haven’t been convinced. We don’t know how to get rid of the govt
Watch the movie The Jones plantation on Rumble.
Let’s not forget the suggestion Orwell puts in the mouth of Julia, Winston’s love interest – that the war isn’t actually happening and the Party is dropping bombs on its own people to keep them scared and believing the conflict is real
There’s only one thing worse than a binary; and that would be a unitary. One world, one ruling body calling all the shots, one set of do’s and don’t’s. The one world of O’Brien can exist nowhere else but inside Britain where believing reality is illusory is almost second nature. In that regard Samuel Johnson stubbed his toe on a rock in vain, for Bishop Berkeley’s dismissal of any such thing as a rock carried the day.
Control of pro and con narratives will all come to a crashing end when an asteroid is flung out of the Asteroid Belt to remind people that reality really is real after all.
How about a unitary masquerading as a binary? That’s worse than anything. That is Orwell’s vision.
Yes it can, and does. The whole point of the novel is that all three power blocks are essentially the same.. The system is global. The conflicts are ideologically meaningless and are generated by a type of mutual agreement by all sides in order to maintain the power structure.
Sounds increasingly familiar doesn’t it.
Don’t forget: the world of “1984” is a world in which one man working in an office can re-write all the news that’s fit to print to make it look as he wishes. O’Brien did not, and in 1948 could not, conceive of a world in which millions of people working their phones can write or re-write the news as it’s happening. Unless all these people are operatives of the globalists, it must be assumed that Eastasia really is at war with Eurasia and Oceana. And if they’re all three working together, chances are those being killed didn’t get the memo.
Excellent. We are living the book now. Everything can be invented, changed, molded at their whim. An inconvenient fragment tweaked, or removed altogether. One current example: world’s largest obituary database (Legacy.com) quietly removes 2.3 million deaths overnight on 6/6/24. They did it to hide the carnage their database was revealing about the rollout of the jabs. I have been monitoring this database since February of this year. My recorded stats show this database has erased 500,000 deaths in each of the post injection years 2021, 2022 and 2023. This is my article about discovering this:
https://csofand.substack.com/p/if-a-tree-falls?r=1ldnqe
I was able to find some smoking gun corroboration for this at the Wayback Machine:
https://csofand.substack.com/p/before-you-cannot?r=1ldnqe
I have written Legacy.com a letter to ask for an explanation of why 5% of their data simply disappeared onernight:
https://csofand.substack.com/p/letter-to-goliath?r=1ldnqe
We’ll see if I get the time of day.
The very terrifying feel of the story is conveyed perfectly in the 1956 British b+w film version by Michael Anderson with Edmond O’Brien as protagonist Winston Smith, and Donald Pleasence, Jan Sterling, and Michael Redgrave. The five fingers segment is unforgettable. I saw it as a little kid and thought it was the most terrifying story I’d ever experienced.
Orwells that ends well.
Perhaps the WWW is like one of those giant Super Liners. Too big and too slow to turn around in a hurry.
By the time it has turned the smaller, more mobile ‘craft’ have come to the rescue.
Another Winston;
Churchill was another O’Brien.. If you think the world is being taken over by Marxists, here’s another bubble to float on.
Churchill’s bio is worth looking up. His signature contribution is that unlike many of his contemporaries he wasn’t enamored of fascists but aside from that he was Establishment through and through.
(Signature achievements include Gallipoli, Sidney Street and chemical warfare against annoying Iraqis.)
The last sentence is said with irony I presume?
)n a Saturday night, in a small town in the USA in 1938, some men huddled in fear with their families in their cellars, while others grabbed their pitchforks and shotguns and went to help
the US Army repel invading Martians… None were aware that the fight to repel The Martians
was a radio play, enhanced by very effective sound effects and authoritative reporting broadcasts…
It was an early example of how effective the mass media could be used to induce people to believe a non-event was actually taking place – just like the mass media’s ‘covid’ fear campaign…
We are much better educated now, better than those country yokels, surely ?
During a foggy 1938 night in Poland, the gods quietly and quickly lifted a mountain of German owned silver to be relocated in a place of their choosing, forcing the Germans to invade Poland in a quest to recover both trust and financing they once thought they had.
The event fueled what later became known as WW 2.
Dear Catte,
thank you for another very apt comment. I recommend reading a book called “The Managerial Revolution” by James Burnham. It was published in 1941, a few years before Orwell’s dystopia. Orwell borrowed some ideas from Burnham’s book, such as the idea of dividing the world into three major power blocs – Oceania, Eurasia and Asiania.
Today, but this is surely only a coincidence, we have basically three power blocs: the USA or the Anglo-American bloc, the EU and the BRICS bloc. I repeat: that’s all just a coincidence, and the “multipolar world order” will save us all …
What is also very interesting about Burnham’s book is that, in his opinion, “many more wars” would have to be fought after the end of the Second World War to prepare the world for the “managerial revolution”. These conflicts are not “classical” or conventional wars in the sense that they have only territorial, political/ideological or religious reasons or are only about resources, but are a “managed” transformation of the world towards the desired end state: the world is to be placed under the control of a “superclass” (Rothkopf) of managers who will administer all the planet’s resources. This concept was given a new label by the World Economic Forum: “global public-private partnerships”. What characterises this is that a closer fusion is taking place between state power and big business, in other words, a corporatism is being built in which the “managers” use the state as a tool of control.
Cynthia Chung once published a very revealing article on this subject: “The Life of James Burnham: From Trotskyism to Italian Fascism to the Father of Neo-Conservatism”:
“Effective class domination and privilege requires control over the means of production, but it need not be exercised through individual private property rights. It can be exercised through so-called corporate rights, which are not held by individuals as such, but by institutions: as was strikingly the case in many societies where a priestly class was predominant […] […] If there are no individuals in a managerial society who possess comparable property rights, how can a group of individuals form a ruling class? The answer is relatively simple and, as already mentioned, not without historical analogies. The managers will exercise their control over the means of production and be favoured in the distribution of the products, not directly through property rights that they hold as individuals, but indirectly through their control over the state, which in turn will own and control the means of production. The state – that is, the institutions that make up the state – will, if you will, be the ‘property’ of the managers. And that is quite enough to put them in the position of the ruling class.”
In any case, the extent of narrative control today is truly frightening. And this applies not only to the mainstream press; in the alternative media, too, political influencers have been artificially constructed on a massive scale in order to achieve better control over the circulating narratives. That’s why I was so pleased when Whitney Webb and some colleagues announced the “Independent Media Alliance”. It’s time to counter the constant attempts at control.
Whitney is a treasure!
The problem with dissenters, subversives or Winston Smith is not that they dissent, are subversive or rebel, but that they participate with contemporary society as it is presented to us . Participating is like if you put your hand on the electric fence, or plugging into a socket and then not expecting to get shocked. You will get shocked.
So my solution to this little problem is to not participate at all, although I do have some problems some times with this goal as following contemporary events through the screens is addictive.
I threw away 1984 years ago, there are much better books that explain contemporary society. Try, fi Zamyatin’s ‘We’
As for following the news, I follow Ed Harris/Christoff’s advice that ‘We accept reality as it is presented to us, it is that simple.’ – Yet it was not so according to the film, as Truman stepped out of the movie set (he no longer participated with society as it was presented to him), yet it took him 30 years. It took me much longer. Some people will never know and remain in the fake brace new world. – What can I say?
vrijheid, blijheid.
Willem I would love to hear in what ways practically ,physically and emotionally you have been successful in not participating. I think this is an endeavour many of us are trying to grapple with.
? but there were policemen who were going to arrest you if you left your hosue for more than 1 hour during the lockdowns. What choice did we have not to participate?
It depends on your particular circumstances. In our part of the world nobody bothered you if you left your house, there were no regulations or anything like that.
This is important for several reasons, one being your particular circumstances guide your perceptions so its easy to fall into the trap of assuming that how you experience the world is how everyone else does.
? Really so why was there all the furore about Bojo and the parties?
Bojo & the Parties was blown out of all proportion to distract from the numerous, much bigger scandals and evidenced corruption. To name a few: Excess mortality, PPE procurement contracts, Nightingale Hospitals, Furlough payments to businesses and individuals, the disappearance of Influenza, the sweetheart deal with the nma (news media association). There are probably others too, but dumping Bumbling Boris for any of the above would perhaps cause too many questions to be asked. Parties was the most benign and innocuous, producing an “outrage and indignation” that was going nowhere.
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that you are the spokesmand of ryoiur part of the world
Winston and Julia tried not participating and they ended up dead and tortured. Pretty realistic I think.
Indeed. The opportunities for opting out are limited and and in most cases, illusory. Opting out only can work as long as it is not a threat to the dominant system.
Its a nice idea but we all have to bear in mind that while you may not be interested in society, society itself may be very interested in you. The only reason why you can live unmolested seemingly outside society is that you’re not big enough, important enough or possess resources enough to be worth bothering. For now.
Some people care. That’s why Orwell wrote the book!
https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/looking-back-on-the-spanish-war
I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, ‘History stopped in 1936’, at which he nodded in immediate understanding. We were both thinking of totalitarianism in general, but more particularly of the Spanish Civil War. Early in life I had noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories, and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’. . . .
This kind of thing is frightening to me, because it often gives me the feeling that the very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. After all, the chances are that those lies, or at any rate similar lies, will pass into history. . . . Yet, after all, some kind of history will be written, and after those who actually remember the war are dead, it will be universally accepted. So for all practical purposes the lie will have become truth.
I know it is the fashion to say that most of recorded history is lies anyway. I am willing to believe that history is for the most part inaccurate and biased, but what is peculiar to our own age is the abandonment of the idea that history could be truthfully written. In the past people deliberately lied, or they unconsciously coloured what they wrote, or they struggled after the truth, well knowing that they must make many mistakes; but in each case they believed that ‘the facts’ existed and were more or less discoverable. And in practice there was always a considerable body of fact which would have been agreed to by almost everyone. If you look up the history of the last war in, for instance, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, you will find that a respectable amount of the material is drawn from German sources. A British and a German historian would disagree deeply on many things, even on fundamentals, but there would still be that body of, as it were, neutral fact on which neither would seriously challenge the other. It is just this common basis of agreement, with its implication that human beings are all one species of animal, that totalitarianism destroys. Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as ‘the truth’ exists. There is, for instance, no such thing as ‘science’. There is only ‘German science’, ‘Jewish science’ etc. The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, ‘It never happened’ – well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five – well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs – and after our experiences of the last few years that is not a frivolous statement.
History no more exists than does The Future…
Except maybe as ideological prisms through which we view The Present…
(Which means – all History is Interpretation)…
I’m pretty sure history exists, since I did live through part of it — albeit a very small part.
So, basically, “No such thing as objective reality.”
Got it.
Brilliant. This is what sets OG apart
“Experience is, for me, the highest authority. The touchstone of validity is my own experience. No other person’s ideas, and none of my own ideas, are as authoritative as my experience. It is to experience that I must return again and again, to discover a closer approximation to truth as it is in the process of becoming in me. Neither the Bible nor the prophets — neither Freud nor research — neither the revelations of God nor man — can take precedence over my own direct experience.”
Carl Rogers
Ultimately, my own experience is all I really have left anymore. The number of sources I can trust just continues to shrink and shrink …
Same here!
Orwell’s famous dystopia, along with the parable “Animal Farm”, were part of the curriculum at my high school in Cold War era America
presumably they decided to include these texts to demonstrate to us impressionable youngsters the moral superiority of the “free world”, in sharp contrast to the turpitude of our adversaries behind the Iron Curtain, spawn of that loathsome figure here symbolized by Napoleon the pig, there by Big Brother, that is, the great Satan Joseph Stalin
the possibility that we might see some parallels between the system we lived under here and the nightmares Orwell depicted, and draw from that some unwelcome, subversive conclusions, does not seem to have occurred to any of the patriotic educational apparatchiks who compiled the reading lists back then
in retrospect though one of the most powerful warnings from “1984” already was relevant to a phenomenon that we were witnessing right in front of us at home, namely, the co-opting of counterculture
the characterization “totalitarian” was conceived of, I think, by political philosophers like Hannah Arendt who wanted to call attention to the way in which societies like Nazi Germany were subjected to an ideological regimentation not merely in traditional ways, having to do with the formation and functioning of the government itself, but expanding instead to engulf all spheres of citizens’ activities
there could no longer be neutral clubs of numismatists, chess players, bird watchers, no! now they had to be National Socialist bird watchers etc
Orwell with merciless logic and great wit saw the logical and inevitable extension of this principle to the underground opposition as well! there can be a cell of revolutionaries dedicated to the overthrow of the Party, but they must be Party-approved revolutionaries!
of course, it wasn’t a complete flight of fancy, agents provocateurs had already been infiltrating and even heading up anti-government movements even in imperial Russia
the mass marketers though of Madison Avenue in the 60s and 70s turned yippie-style protest into a fashion choice, Che Guevara morphed into the icon for a designer line of t-shirts and other apparel
another moral I suppose of our high school Orwell catechism was perhaps the tremendous virtue of the victors of WWII, our country, self-evidently, first and foremost, whereby we all just assumed that “1984” was portraying a sort of alternate reality which we by dint of supreme will escaped, when in fact the book says nothing about how the world order we see in it came to pass, and is even more plausibly compatible with a historical analysis that excludes any interpretation of the end of that war as a break in the global drift toward alienation, immiseration, surveillance and subjugation that began before 1945 and carried on smoothly also after
The boots and chocolate numbers which were fudged in 1984 are exactly what we have today. The stock market can go up and you can lose. It’s all a scam to keep people working harder for less and less in order to feed the “party” (wall street, military industrial complex, etc)
Humanity didn’t see it before, but Orwell wrote 1984 about his own experiences in british intelligence.
We are in whatever book comes after the system in 1984 is exposed to many.
Perhaps we will end up with a brave new world.
All they need to do is stop giving us crap toxic drugs. People will be happier and stop the incessant corruption of the middlemen bullshit jobs.
People well fed with entertainment and enjoyment of life. That’s how you control people….
Plundering public wealth and resources, and undermining competition (even in information), is the essence of capitalism. There are anointed winners, others being losers. Many major announcements – economic, military, etc. – are timed for insider trading.
“In every stock-jobbing swindle, everyone knows that a crash must come. Yet, everyone hopes that it will fall on his neighbour’s head after he himself has caught the shower of gold.” -Karl Marx, Das Kapital 1867
“!984” is indeed visionary, I think. It is about a total loss of reality, for almost everyone. The only ones “having” some kind of “reality” still are the people of The Party – but their “compass of reality” is power. It is the means and the end in itself.
The only chance I see is reconnecting with our selves – our humble human selves, not the magnificent, almost godlike ones we (almost) all have been “sold” to in the past decades. The more we are distanced from our innate humanness and the direct experience through our senses, the more we are susceptible to any manipulation, to any version of “reality” that is “sold” to us: It then doesn’t matter which “side” we pick – we are “taken” anyway …
So let’s all rehumanise – as Erich Fromm (and others) put it, come back to the mode of being instead the one of having. The clue seems to be in the mode of (general) consciousness, or to put it with Iain McGilchrist: Let’s again cherish connected, direct experience (right brain-hemispheric) over the dominant left-hemispheric, re-presented way of seeing the world and ourselves.
More critical than “reconnecting with ourselves” is disconnecting the parasites feeding on us.
Well, as I see it, we regain the ability to disconnect from the forces feeding on us by reconnecting to ourselves. It is this rooting in our deeply human existence preventing us from being fed “their” version of reality. It’s no either/or but a shifting of important balances …
“The polls are even, but Trump is gaining because he sounds more insane every day, and Harris is circling the drain because she sounds more stupid every day. Early votes are favoring Trump, but that demographic is surely for Harris because she’s black, or something. It’s going to be close, the polls say, maybe a few hundred thousand votes, that’s all, which is kind of amazing considering there are about 280 million eligible voters. The main thing is, just vote. It doesn’t matter for whom, what matters is that you vote. Because of democracy or something like that. The more people that vote, the better the democracy, man.”
Because if you vote, they got ya.
In other news, the war OF terror continued today, because there is still terror, because they create it.
I don’t think I need to read the book again, we are now living it. Truth is always stranger than fiction.
If she wins, Harris is going to make sure ‘What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been’ by imposing warp speed part deux.
Personally, I think Harris is so far out of her depth she knows herself she shouldn’t be there. Pure acting, poorly at that, with no substance. Relatively speaking, I would be more worried about Trump because he’s so far down the zionist’s pockets and in such an insane mental state, he is prone to do anything for them, including an insane war with Iran/Russia/China.
Just remember that even Joe Biden got through 4 years and enriched himself greatly
👍
She’s not black, but she’s definitely ‘or something.’
“I KNOW NOTHIN !!”, that memorable exclamation by loveable Sergeant Shultz
is often brought to mind these days when talking to a Normie…
They Thought They Were Free. The Germans 1933-1945… Historian Milton Mayer:
https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
via
https://truthcomestolight.com/brace-yourselves-a-tsunami-approaches
I feel that there is something unreal about the Uktaine/ Russia war. However I feel sure that the massacres in Palestine are happening
In the 21st Century, you know a “war” is fake when there are hardly any images, still or moving. Where are the frontline images from Ukraine/Russia ? And so many still images are historical or photoshopped.
I remember being incredulous when viewing live images from the helmet cam of an Apache helicopter gunner as he strafed a bunch of Iraqi trucks/soldiers on a mountain pass – a real war from a manufactured threat
Look through these posts to see what is not shown.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-101424-russia-tightens-ring
‘Military Summary’ on YouTube.
The casualty numbers are way higher for Ukraine, as the line of contact is much longer and the weapons on both sides much heavier.
All irrelevant in the woke neo-marxist hive mind, captured by the Islam=victim trope.
Fact free far away from the fronts.
”It’s increasingly hard to navigate them and more and more people seem not to even try, succumbing to the lure of that pre-packaged outrage and the easy sense of virtue and comradeship acquired by adopting the flavour of your choice.” That was the only part of the article I disagreed with it. i am pleasantly surprised by the number of people who realise exactly what is happening and despair about the fact that we don’t know what to do to stop Big Brother.
1984 and Brave New World are two parts of a whole.
1984 describes the awakened soul that can see how
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of [their] own choosing.”
Brave New World describes the normies on their daily dose of Soma”:
“The world’s stable now. People are happy; they get what they want, and they never want what they can’t get.”
Though both books end in the defeat of the disobedient that’s just the authors’ take on the situation.
Can awareness and rebelliousness ever be truly stamped out?
Maybe rebellion can be stamped out if you manage to persuade the potential rebels that the evil people in this world are being defeated by the good guys / the resistance / the white hats and in a few days / weeks / months good things will come to those who wait – the patient (non-violent) rebels. That’s what a lot of people I have read online truly believe and quite frankly they might as well. What’s the use of worrying? If bad things are coming it doesn’t help to have wasted the better times worrying. And if they aren’t- same thing. Doom-mongering never helps.
The only true rebellion is voting.
But why are all of you so obsessed with rebelliousness and revolt against the Government and the system?
This planet is full of empty and deserted spaces where you can revolt all that you want.
Why do you have to walk directly into the most populated centre of the Capitol and walk around with a poster telling us that you revolt and are against EVERYTHING we do.
In the evening you are here on OffG and Twitter and Faecesbook crying out everything we made should have been done in a different way.
https://youtu.be/tbbrapmedUQ Walk a mile in your shoes and be happy.
Rebellion can happen without waving posters and chanting or storming the bastille.
Rebellion to me is living in accordance with my inner voice of what’s right and wrong. And I get to decide what is good for me and what is not.
Any Historical Event, such as super-duper hurricanes in The
Past that dont agree with The Science of Global Warming
(human-caused, that is) are dis-information…
Wikipedia has been tasked with updating such entries to
conform them with current The Science (TM) claim that
Things Are Getting Worser !!
But worry not, if Wiki is not up to the job, there’s always that
reliable stand-by Historical Amnesia (It’s very popular !)
Remember, Remember, The 5th of November ?
The grim reality of Reiner Fuellmich’s predicament.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/reiner-fuellmich-persecution-prison%E2%80%A8/5870070
Thank you very much for the post.I think I had heard of this guy before (funny surname! Fullmilk!). Poor bloke. hope he and Assange know it isn’t in vain. At least peole like them who are very brave let us know we are alive
The human spirit will always prevail !
It’s all a projection of mind. To imagine that there is anything outside the mind is pure delusion. All that has ever been and will be experienced is a thought. NOW what is a thought and where does it come from and go to?
My recently bought hard-copy dictionary contains the updated meanings
of ‘vaccine’, ‘pandemic’, ‘medical doctor’, ‘war’, ‘dis- and mis-information.’
‘terrorism’, etc… Helps me understand what’s really going on… The entry
for ‘democracy’ really threw me ! How wrong i was !! I thought the
description it gives was for an ‘oligarchy’ (There’s no entry for ‘oligarchy’
or ‘plutarchy’ – clearly i was dis-informed by conspiracy peddlers !!)
When disposing of the books left by those who pass away, we could save hardcopy dictionaries.
Precisely.
They started doing that decades ago, so I keep 1996 and 2011 Concise Oxfords handy so I can check if and by how much meaning(s) have ben altered or eroded.
Question – is Substack the digital age ‘Winston’?
SUBSTACK: A Ministry of Truth ProductionHow did SUBSTACK get away with not censoring?
How is it that when every other news and social media platform was forced to censor all negative Covid and Covid vaccine articles and comments, Substack was able to tell the Ministry of Truth to shove there censorship up their ass?
When the DOD runs an operation and their minions at the Ministry of Truth politely ask media owners to censor, you damn well censor, unless you have an army bigger than the DOD’s. If you refuse the asking becomes a demand, then a threat. They have the power to end your venture.
With respect to Substack, there is no advertising so the Ministry of Truth can’t demand that advertisers pull their banners. However Substack does use payment gateways accepting credit card payments, so the site is extremely vulnerable.
The Ministry of Truth could have easily justified shutting down Substack on the grounds of publishing disinformation related to Covid resulting in the sheeple not injecting the deadly life-saving Rat Juice and endangering public health.
Kind of how like they stripped doctors of their licenses if they advised patients not to inject the experiment. We are talking serious power, total power.
Why is Substack Necessary?
I picked this up in the comments section of an article on Substack the other day:
Janet
Jun 17
Sometimes I scream in my car. Substack plus that and prayers are all I have.
Substack serves multiple purposes.
It provides a platform for Anti Vaxxers to form a community and blow off steam ensuring that they never take any action that might upset The Extermination Plan. Rather than turning to violence, which is what one would expect when your government is hell bent on killing and maiming you, Substackers instead hang out chatting on Substack and high-fiving every time a new study drops demonstrating the Rat Juice is deadly.
They do nothing because they are lead to believe that the Vaxxers surely must be waking up given the deluge of studies. But the Vaxxers remain fast asleep because they are not seeing the studies. The Ministry of Truth knows that there is no danger of these truths infecting the Vaxxers because they trust only bbccnn. If they are sent links to Substack articles they delete them and howl ‘conspiracy theories!!!’
Substack is a pile of dog shit attracting all Anti Vaxxers who are then corralled into into a holding pen. The Ministry of Truth logs the IP addresses and opens a file on every user of this site. They monitor every single key stroke and watch for signs that a member is contemplating violence or organizing what might be an effective form of protest.
Fortunately nobody has attempted anything that gets on the radar of the Ministry of Truth because that would result in the anti terrorist squads being mobilized.
Who wants to be shot in the head or thrown in a Super Max prison when you can just moan and complain on Substack believing this will result in a revolution.
Ministry of Truth Agents on Substack
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/substack-a-ministry-of-truth-production
Sub no longer accepts subscription payments using de identified gift cards
Clearly it’s one big data harvest
Very interesting! I have a rubbish dumbphone. Bluetooth is on it. Apparently it tracks us all the time even when off ( if I understood a talk given by Tom Oliver Regenauer on his ‘ the Truman show’ talk recently). I was looking at mobile phones in a big dept store today. There was only one dumbphone and you have to speak to the salesadviser if you want it; I reckon it’s all the better to track us.
In Oz they r talking about needing ID to use the internet so i guess we will have a choice soon whether to keep handing over the data harvesting
You do have a choice. You have a choice to learn how to use the internet to your advantage, or follow the herd into the blue light.
Plus I had a dvd player that didn’t work recently. Brought it back to big dept store hoping to get a new one. Had to use their new service and have it sent off somewhere. Was told they would refund me my money. Was asked to log on to bank online and somehow connect up to the refunder account. Explained I ddin’t do online banking and asked for a credit in the big dept store. They did give me the amount as a credit…but the pressure to do everything online and give these big outfits financial info is huge.They all seem to be linked up to I hope u no who!
Get a very good VPN.
The fact that Orwell was so accurate in his predictions … makes me wonder if Orwell was not in The Club…. and if 1984 was a collaboration between him and the Ministry of Truth.
Kinda like …
The Utopia TV SeriesWere they hinting at what was to come?https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-utopia-tv-series
? It’s so obvious Orwell loves humans and individualism and freedom.
Not only Orwell but also I am in The Club.
Everyone on this planet are in The Club and against YOU Eddy. WE in The Club are EVERYWHERE. Why?
Because The Club is yourself. The fight against The Club is against yourself.
“Why Mr. Anderson, why, why, why??”. https://youtu.be/ztABYog5x3o
By the Numbers
Russia had 360,000 ground troops before the war and has suffered 315,000 killed and wounded since February 2022, according to newly declassified intel shared with Congress. Source
Start Date of the War: February 22, 2022 (less than 2.5 years)
Population of Ukraine: 36,744,636
The U.S. National Archives shows that 58,220 U.S. soldiers were killed in action and 150,000 were wounded in the Vietnam War Source
Start and End Dates US Troop involvement Vietnam War : 1965 – 1973
Population of the USA in 1968: 195,743,427
Summary: Ukraine, with a population 1/5 the size of the US population during the Vietnam War, has suffered 360,000 casualties in 2.5 years of war vs what the 58,000 that US endured in 8 years of fighting in Vietnam.
I call bullshit on the Ukraine numbers. If their numbers are accurate then this is a slaughterhouse like no other in the history of warfare. It would be impossible to convince or force Ukrainians to fight. And there would be nobody left to fight, and no work force left to operate the country.
Does anyone think Ukrainian men would be willing to fight and die for this clown?
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-war-is-fake
I make a point of reading 1984 every so often.
As Catte says, it is more scary each time.
Actually, I found it a bit clunky when I first read it some 40 years ago and a bit of a stretch of the imagination.
Why did Winston love BB at the end ?
I’ve never undersood that line.
Was it just a powerful line to end the novel or did Winston own nothing but was happy ?
Was the clunkiness due to trying to get the message over rather than writing great literature ?
If you want to go full on, you could mention that Huxley was Eric Blair’s French teacher and both were contempories, and possibly friends, with H.G Wells, the author of “The Time Machine”
Just saying………
Contemporaries
I find it a bit annoying that you cant be “friends”, join a party with, or talk frequently with someone you dont agree with.
I have several friends I like, but think they are far out childish in their political views and lack insight in the intellectual basics of life. Nevertheless I like some sides of their personalities: It means:
“I forgive them because they dont know what they are doing”, “I Love my neighbour as much as myself”.
“Mohammed Ali shake hands with the President of Zimbabwe why Mohammed Ali is also in favour of Dictatorships”???
Winston love BB in the end because he was subdued and conquered. The Stockholm syndrome was not labelled at that time, so Huxley had to explain the phenomena in another way.
You make a good point.
Did Eric describe Stockholm syndrome ?
Who Eric, Eric Fromm? I havent read that much of Fromm.
But the Stockholm syndrome is contested, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome .
But whatever we call it, it is known that tortured people similar can develop a dependency emotional relationship with their tyrant.
So I just think that Orwell was quite precise in his description about Winston in the end of the book, which just make it an even better classic.
Eric Blair = George Orwell.
Thanks, I were searching in my brain but couldnt find it. It was familiar but I couldnt remember from where…………LOL. Off course.
if you read the details of the botched bank robbery in Sweden that gave rise to this bit of jargon, “Stockholm syndrome”, as well as the case of the kidnapped Hearst heiress, one of the first to which the label was applied by media pundits, you have to be struck by the insight that this is yet another example of the mainstream branding as “insane” any genuine human sympathy for rebellion against authority
the hostages in the original incident, over the course of the siege by the police, came to see things from the point of view of the bandits, little guys with quixotic hopes of re-expropriating riches from that vault of fat cats’ deposits and ultimately at the mercy of the behemoth of the forces of order, subjected to veritable torture tactics by the SWAT teams surrounding them
and naturally any offspring of the ruling class whose eyes have been opened to the revolutionary strivings of the oppressed, like that young woman choosing to throw in her lot with the SLA zealots, must have been brainwashed in some sinister, mysterious manner, explicable only by recourse to high-grade psychotherapeutic gobbledygook
I dont find your case justified.
In Sweden no one goes hungry to bed. The system takes care of you if you dont find work or establish your own business, in contrary to a lot of other countries.
You have a case and right to be angry at multi billionaires if many people goes hungry to bed, sleep on the streets, do not have a home, m.m., but not in the Sweden case.
So the Bank robber stole average people’s money from the bank, took female hostages and raped them, were violent against the Police (the oppressors tools), and the sheeple hostages think he was a hero because he was against the government and the rich.
So what was it, this socialist guy wanted himself? He wanted to be rich too…. but the quick way.
Unfortunately this is the romantic daydream of most socialist ideologies…….LOL.
He loved him at the end because he had been completely destroyed. Bleak. I think we’re all gonna love BB pretty soon. We’re at the stage where we’re drinking in the café where the reprobates go. Next step is …torture and death when they can be bothered to get round to us
BB wasn’t a person, though. It was the system.
I would like to think that I would never love the system.
I appreciate that some people do.
I wonder if I could be forced to love it.
I wonder if I could be forced to love anything.
Hmmm…
Ofcourse he doesn’t really love him. His mind was destroyed. The whome point of the book in my opinion was about the vulnerability of the individual. Winston and Julia were brave but they were smashed by the system. I’m pretty sure we’d allbreak after the torture described in the book
In that line Orwell told us that Winston’s spirit was broken, he had lost the wil to resist, he conformed. The system had ground down his individualism, his soul if you like. Early in the bok Orwell writes “freedom is slavery.”
In that final line we learn that he has accepted the truth of the opposite statement, slavery is freedom. Once we surrrender to tyranny and conform we are freed from having to recognise injustice and oppose it.
Surely reality of today surprises more than Orwell
History is critical to understanding what is happening in the world today because those who controlled the past now control the present.
But history doesn’t provide a SOLUTION to a world being systematically driven into a cul-de-sac of submission by a force that has prevailed since Roman Times and before. This force (the ENEMY) is attacking us on all fronts (P5) primarily facilitated by technology.
Zbigniev Brezinski (co-founder of the Trilateral Commission) stated in 1970 (P41), that the Technotronic Age (to paraphrase) would ultimately control life on Earth. He failed to mention transhumanism which incorporated the ability to control our minds.
50 years on we are now experiencing the fulfilment of Brezinski’s prophecy. Our controllers, the ENEMY, are now closing in for the kill. The ENEMY’s well-publicised intent on eliminating 90% of the world’s population has only been awaiting their complete electronic control over us, thereby assuring we can be dispatched without the fear of them encountering undue resistance or relatiation.
My basic question is why has humanity seemingly failed to generally recognise the underlying threat that has been creeping up on them for 50 years? Many, assume 10%, can see what’s going on and have immersed themselves in the endless analysis of the latest ENEMY manoeuvres – but none of these erudite media practitioners have produced a tenable solution in the form of an effective Counter Attack Strategy.
Without such a STRATEGY we are doomed. Unless we coalesce as a species to fight and defeat this Force of Evil, there can only be one outcome.
I can only suggest one option, based on historical and contemporary evidence, that is capable of saving us from eradication, this option provides a solution that enables everybody to play a part.
https://icedrive.net/s/8A7z58gxD8RTkWfuSN8S513PFNT2…
Note One: Imagine a world where EVIL was kept under strict and vigilant control – a world where peace and cooperation prevailed between all Nations and people. This is the ultimate objective of the proposed strategy, something that enlightened leaders from Benjamin Franklin to Kennedy aspired to achieve but were thwarted by the evil forces in play against them.
Note Two: No one individual can deliver the complete package, it requires everybody to recognise the ‘Theatre of War’ that has enveloped them and that their strength and survival rely upon their ability to create a sense of unity in pursuit of a common objective and outcome which hopefully should inspire ALL.
Is that the same Kennedy who gave approval for operation ranch hand?
Sounds fascinating. Plse tell me more
I don’t know. I think there was a big,sudden change.There was freedom before. I have read some very convincing stuff by some German writers/ thinkers which I find very impressive. Particularly persuasive for me is a bloke called Ernst Wolff. There’s another bloke called Rugemann or Rugemeyer. They’re both economists I think. It seems that Bill Clinton changed the way financial instituions were regulated and as a consequence shadow banks were able to accumulate unlimited wealth ( and power). E.g. Blackrock and Vanguard.This bloke Ernst Wolff does podcasts in English too as far as I am aware. I really recommend him. Trouble is..he has no solutions!!
What if “simpleminded binary” is a simpleminded binary :-)?
This aspect of 1984 would seem to address the main thing that I believe allows all of it to exist, persist and grow, i.e., the mindset and temperment of the vast majority of regular people. The mindset and aims of the ownership class aren’t all that interesting or mysterious, but hose of the thundering herd, even those that have stepped out of the column and are watching it pass back and forth now, are fascinating and, I suspect, the key to everything.
Even among the freedom and truth communities, which largely and increasingly overlap, the people sincerely seeking those goals with open minds and civility, which are found here at OG in both the writers and the commenters in greater ratio than I’ve ever found on any any other site or news source, remedies are rarely discussed. The latest evidence of the phenomenon and problem is stated and commented on, bemoaned and elaborated on, but that’s it and on to the next story.
There are always newcomers to the info, but many open minds looked behind the curtain without flinching a LONG time ago, some because of the American assassinations in the ’60’s, some because of Vietnam and subsequent and several recent imperial military actions, a huge number because of 9/11, others because of a dawning awareness of fiat currency and the generally irrational and corrupt basis of finance and taxation and then the related 2008 financial implosion, and most recently a big group has peeked back because of the c19 social experiment, still ongoing.
That’s a long time, and a lot of stuff. The jury came in a long time ago. So we also know now that no matter how much evidence is presented and verified, people can’t bring themselves to the next step of what they would and could do, have done about it (and excluding the verifiably futile actions of voting, lawsuits, street marches, et al).
We’re at the Solzhenitsyn line, and got there a long time ago. The problem is minutely and starkly defined, but the logical next step, and possibly the only available remedy, of widespread non-compliance and withdrawal of material support is just not palatable to almost anyone, no matter how much they know or how ineffective the accepted ‘remedies’ of voting, demonstrating and litigating.
Ultimately, I think the problem as outlined by Orwell and Solzhenitsyn may come down to this factor.
Great comment. I agree. The thing is we’ve passed the point of the enemy being definable and approachable. If we could line up against them, fields of Bannockburn style, I think millions upon millions of us would, as evidenced by the incredible numbers of protestors globally during the scamdemic.
The problem why we can’t and don’t and possibly never will, is twofold. The masterminds are embedded into the system of our modern world, hidden and insulated behind myriad layers, many of which we ourselves are entangled. And secondly, even if they were right before our eyes, lined up and clearly labelled, they aren’t directly physically attacking us. Our decorum and humanity and sensibilities tell us that we can only resort to violence and complete revolution if compelled as a last resort by their overt violence and oppression. They are using that against us.
A very smart and kind man I know says a lot these days that he has no idea how people aren’t running on their capitals, tearing the buildings down, and forcibly restructuring and renewing the fabric of our societies and economies. I wonder the same. But I think the answer is in the ideas I’ve proffered above. We are all too soft, too distracted, too entrenched.
I hold my hands up in this regard. I am staunchly against tyranny. I did not lockdown, wondering happily around a deserted central London during April to June 2020. I did not wear a mask, including on flights. But do I have an iPhone? Do I have a Tesco club card because I need the savings afforded by it? Do I not not shop at all the mainstream supermarkets that have now rolled out the cameras on each till, even though I’ve tried speaking several times to shop managers, asking where my data goes, seeing if according to GDPR, I can instantly have my data deleted, which I can’t, obvs. You get my point.
The only option a person would have left to completely and utterly disengage from the system would be to go and live in the hills. But this isn’t 1,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago. This is 2024. Every blade of grass is tracked and known and governed. And even if at best, a few of us could go and live as outcasts, what good would that do? Everything would still roll on, and once full tyranny was unmasked and unchecked, we’d just be hunted down and eradicated anyway.
So I think you’re spot on. I think we’ve passed a threshold some time ago.
However, the one caveat is this. This is no way means I’m convinced the only end destination is doom for us all. That would be completely arrogant and presumptuous. I believe in God. I believe in love and light. I believe that often we need to be pushed right to the brink before we come to our senses. Maybe that is what it is going to take with the trajectory we’re on. Perhaps it will take things getting really really dark before a critical mass of the world will say, hang on a second, no no no, and commence the revolution. Who knows.
Thanks, and for the reply.
Going to live in the hills isn’t my suggestion, though some sort of voluntary physical separation of community might be wise and will probably be a natural outcome of pushing remedy to the front of the conversation, which is my suggestion and part of my main point, and aspects of such remedy will surely involve the mass withdrawal of compliance and material support by those that have looked without flinching behind the curtain. The waking up part happened a long, long time ago for many of us. So, now what?
I’m certain that it is counter-productive at this point to simply be noting and lamenting the perpetual avalanche of bad and dire news with almost no talk of remedy. In the absence of that, to what end are we all writing about, sharing and commenting on all the profound news and developments? Remedy should be the main focus now.
Anyone tracking all of this even just from 2020 knows the score. Those tracking it from JFK’s assassination are long drowning in redundant proofs of the general situation. The restaurant is filthy, the service rude and the food bad, but we continue to pay for it and pointlessly argue with each other about how we think the place should be run, while begging the completely indifferent and uncontrollable management and ownership to make changes it will never make, and we can never compel it to make. That’s obviously irrational, and we should stop doing it. And then, do something else constructive. Begin discussing what that might be, at the very least, which will likely turn out to be many things.
The foe is definable, in general, if not in particular down to each person, though some are known. The basic scenario surely is, i.e., that there is an ownership class (OC), has always been one, and which owns states, states that do its bidding and enforce its will, extend and maintain its interests. That those two entities are joined and inseparable. That the latter does not check the former, but rather enhances it, and is in its employ, and cannot help but be.
We can start there as a backdrop with all comments, with all suggestion and consideration of remedy and noting of each new piece of news. We can stop, for example, all discussion of Parliament, Congress or like bodies doing anything lasting or profound about any of it, since the OC will not allow that, those institutions being fully and probably always captured. Andrew Bridgen and Ron Paul are the exemplars for the fate and efficacy of men of integrity, anyone telling any fundamental truths, within those captured bodies. We can stop sounding amazed or outraged or despairing of that reality, and we can get to the business of rejecting the paradigm.
We can and should stop merely tracking and commenting on the endless tsunami of news, and start keeping the notion of remedy in mind at all times so that all the thoughtful minds that write for and visit sites like OG might develop and share positive, concrete ideas for same and get used to regularly doing so, and so that newcomers find haven in the writings and comments at such places. Finding OG in mid ‘20 comforted me greatly. Not only the writings and tone of the news reporting and perspective, but in the amazingly thoughtful and civil commenting.
I did not feel alone because of OG. I was relieved and comforted to find many other people that clearly saw the madness, even just at the noting of the news level of things. What happens when such thoughtful minds move up a level, and turn their attentions to remedy, also? Good things, I expect, and that would be something to build on.
Imagine living in physical community with other such like-minds? Does that not sound like an obviously good idea? It does to me.
The other part of my point is that I believe part of the remedy is also widely noting and accepting that we’ve reached the Solzhenitsyn line in the sand that no one wants to cross, knowing instinctively both where it is, and that crossing it will forever change one’s life.
We’re definitely there. Time to acknowledge and come to grips with that, factor it in. Scary, but no avoiding it anymore.
I’m afraid I only woke up when Trudeau called the Canadian convoy antisemitic. I was pretty alamred and baffled before then . Had noticed that freedom of speech was disappearing in Europe since ..not sure beginning of the noughties. Do tell me when you woke up please. I can’t believe how slow I was
Whenever you woke up, it’s a fine thing that you did, and that you could (most can not, and would not even want to).
I was early to that partial state of mind, being persuaded in my 20’s (I’m 62 now) that the JFK story was a lie, and so probably, too, the stories about the deaths of his brother & MLK, and then further when the Cold War got immediately turned into the War on Terror after the Berlin Wall fell. Smelled a rat there.
But the 9/11 story, the contradicting research which I became aware of in about 2005-06, was what woke me up completely and permanently.
I also went to college late, in my 40’s, around that same time, and read a lot of the philosophers responsible for our current political systems and ideologies, and things made much more sense after that, as well.
Thanks. Could you point me to an article about the contradictory research on 9/11 plse? ( I don’t need it for proof about the general state of affairs here in the ‘ free West’. I am just interested as a matter of interest.) It’s not a subject I understand much about. However the war on terror always seemed like a load of bull to me and just a way of taking away our freedoms. Infact in a way it seemed to me it was a precursor for the Covid scam not just for the reasons people have rehearsed on here but because of all the goody two shoes in the queues at the airports who wer DYING to snitch on you if you tried to smuggle on lipstick/ summat ‘ forbidden’ on to the aircraft. It was the same blind faith in people in powere who are bad/ won’t explain the rationale properly for certain measures
Here are some links to articles and videos:
Thank you
Well said, and I think you’re spot on. Eventually the only thing that remains is to intentionally and unitedly work for solutions.
Hear, hear. The sooner the better on that.
Well yes but unless I am mistaken he hasn’t offered any!!
I have.
Hear, hear to each of your opinions/statements!
Such a well thought-out comment..
Thank you.
Love the reference to Bannockburn!! You must be a Jock.!! Al I right?
Haha I am indeed, well by heritage! Naturalised Londoner of many years now though.
Sorry mean to say Am I right? in my last post ( after ” you must be a Jock” ( Nothing pejrative intended. I like Jocks and was delighted to find out recently that I am maybe one quarter Jock)
The position we find ourself in is by no means unique.
The population have risen from tyranny, for that is what we face, many times in history.
I would say the difference with the ‘elite’ this time is they’ve learnt from their mistakes.
We would had a revolution probably 15 or 20 years ago but for their indulgences.
The average person now has an unbelievable lifestyle compared with 100 years ago.
How many if us are going to risk that ?
All of this is monitored, of course, to make sure they don’t push us too far.
In fact, you’re now reading their main source of feedback ! Social and alt. media
They’re clever bastards.
But they’re still bastards.
Technology is also very different now, and more conducive to the Huxlian easy-sell dystopia he wrote about (and predicted would carry the day, versus Orwell’s vision), and the ease of lifestyle is part of that.
But my thinking now and experience is that there’s only a small % of people that have the capacity to contemplate or even care about most of what gets discussed on a site like OG, and the large % that doesn’t is never, ever going to step out line, and would never want to.
Yup.
Therein lies the problem.
I fear we must ride this bus until either there is a critical mass event or we have a proper 1984/BNW dystopia.
My money ?
The former.
I agree. Thinking to depart the bus, though, before the CME.
My lifestyle is absolutely sh**. No freedom of speech. Govt propaganda wherver you look, wherever you go. No freedoms of any kind really ( can’t demonstrate, was almost forced into being vaxxed)
Where are you ?
France. Macron and Lepen are awful. I think they are actually even worse than the WEF crew elsewhere in the ‘ free West’. The amount of Muslim bashing that goes on in Fra nce is just awful
We were living in France for18 years until 2023.
The catalyst to leave was the Austrian/ German vaxx mandate that looked likely and we feared it would spread to France so we sold up and moved back to UK.
At least the last time in UK there were no attestations to leave the house !!
We still have Cartes de sejours for another 4 years s we are lucky that we have the choice. Frying pan and fire ?
This today. Scary :
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1846927617804415198
Seems to be pretty terrible everywhere in the ‘ free West’
But you found freedom in UK, despite all.
Away from Hitler, Robespierre’s Guillotine, a degenerated Hapsburg Family and Italian speghetti.
Dont worry, Starmer is just kicking Gates and Fink around in the British Empire’s circus.
I agree with everything you said. Would banning political parties and the interet/ monitoring be a possible solution? They’ll never let us. They’ll just kill us ofcourse…but one can dream
Well, no, that’s what we have to get away from, a centralized power that can ban things, and with which we must affiliate or be jailed, killed or impoverished. Who would be in charge of the banning? That’s the same system we have now.
No one can be entrusted with such power, and none of us can delegate rights to an entity like the state which none of us has ourselves. I can’t ‘ban’ anyone from doing anything, therefore I can’t delegate that right to the government.
I only own my own life, so if people want to form political parties and vote for leaders within organizations and associations that they voluntarily belong to that I’m not required to be a member of and pay for, then I have nothing to say about that.
The beginning of a solution would include those of us that see and recognize the scope of the problem stepping away from the paradigm. We know this thing is irreparably broken and flawed, so we turn the page now.
I don’t really see how it would work. There have to be some laws to have some order don’t there?
You already conduct almost your entire life on a voluntary basis, so it already works. It’s just your association with the state that is involuntary. There can be agreements among and between people voluntarily associating with each other about dispute resolution, getting roads built.
But, public power always gets captured and corrupted, so if we continue to hold that we must all remain members of a verifiably corrupt association to which we delegate rights that no one of us has ourselves, then we will always have what we have now.
I didn’t say centralized power . I’m not sure it would have to be
Banning means enforcement, enforcement means policing, which is an expression of centralized power. Maybe it could work on a very small scale, so long as one can always opt-out once corruption has been identified and it becomes clear that it cannot be corrected.
Thanks for the competent article and advice.
I read 1984 when I was in the 20’es, surely it would give it a completely new perspective to read it today. today experienced. The answer:
Are you old and experienced, Have you ever been experienced, not necessary stoned, but beautiful? https://youtu.be/b3ckZD7I4yI Go out in nature be eaten by what exist man.
A qualified quote from the present confirming your quotes from the past. Thumbs up.
We also have the power to create reality for ourselves.
I kid you not,, my response to the lockdown announcement was to download an audiobook of 1984. I listened to it at work the next day, wearing blue overalls.
It seemed so much more real than when i read it as a teenager.
What’ s the significance of the blue overalls plse?
Obedient worker.
Thanks!!! Don’t remember that
And from the dream team:
Well if we can’t get folk to get jabbed to protect against a non-existent bug, perhaps a miracle cure for fatness will provide an incentive:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxgqp1nd1jo
I confidently predict that the next move will be a jab to increase the size of your dick.
All to sneak something else entirely into your system.
The next move have already been here George. A plastic Lolita for your tiny, and a big dildo for your female. You didnt catch the 1984 train either. Hopelessly living in the past.
:-D.https://youtu.be/3WK8B5Y1Wmc
Talk about invented, irrational narratives… like scam psyops to promote more military police state because $800B is not enough to protect us from Costco drone spys or even 20 ft long drones flying over Langley for two weeks? They must think we are so gullible we cannot add 2 + 2… Ya can’t make this stuff up… Only THEY can…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mystery-drones-swarmed-a-us-military-base-for-17-days-the-pentagon-is-stumped/ar-AA1saqAu
I read it too a couple of weeks ago again after about 20 years. The part about the war in Goldstein’s book struck me as well.It’s a real eye opener and I cannot believe how well it corresponds to the current events.
I first read 1984 in what was then called the ‘Fourth Year’ of High School back in the late 70’s. The book intrigued me then in my mid-teens and I borrowed a copy from the library a couple of years after leaving school. I eventually bought my own copy and have read it several times, April 2020 was the last time I read it because actual current events at that time reminded me of it and still do. I’m off up to my attic now to retrieve and read it yet again. It seemed like a futuristic, dystopian novel in 1979 and scarcely believable back then, now it seems like a modern government manual, who’d have thought it!
To think we were made to read this in school in the seventies !