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Welcome to 2025: Where Your Freedoms Go to Die

John & Nisha Whitehead

“There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice.”
Montesquieu, Enlightenment philosopher

Wondering what to expect from the government in 2025?

So far, it looks like it will be more of the same ill-advised, costly, greedy, taxpayer-funded, dunderheaded power grabs, saber-rattling, graft, corruption, and make-works programming that leaves us no better off than where we started.

Indeed, we’ve been down this road so many times before that there should be no surprise when, no matter who occupies the White House, we find ourselves subjected to more of the same when it comes to the erosion of civil liberties and the increasing power of the government and its corporate partners-in-crime.

Digital prisons. Unceasingly, the government and its corporate partners are pushing for a national digital ID system. Local police agencies have already been given access to facial recognition software and databases containing billions of images, the precursor to a digital ID. Eventually, a digital ID will be required to gain access to all aspects of life: government, work, travel, healthcare, financial services, shopping, etc. Before long, biometrics (iris scans, face print, voice, DNA, etc.), will become the de facto digital ID.

Precrime. Under the pretext of helping overwhelmed government agencies work more efficiently, AI predictive and surveillance technologies are being used to classify, segregate and flag the populace with little concern for privacy rights or due process. All of this sorting, sifting and calculating is being done swiftly, secretly and incessantly with the help of AI technology and a surveillance state that monitors your every move. AI predictive tools are being deployed in almost every area of life.

Mandatory quarantines. Building on precedents established during the COVID-19 pandemic, government agents may be empowered to indefinitely detain anyone they suspect of posing a medical risk to others without providing an explanation, subject them to medical tests without their consent, and carry out such detentions and quarantines without any kind of due process or judicial review.

Mental health assessments by non-medical personnel. As a result of a nationwide push to train a broad spectrum of so-called gatekeepers in mental health first-aid training, more Americans are going to run the risk of being reported by non-medical personnel and detained for having mental health issues.

Tracking chips for citizens. Momentum is building for corporations and the government alike to be able to track the populace, whether through the use of RFID chips embedded in a national ID card, microscopic chips embedded in one’s skin, or tags in retail products.

Military involvement domestically. The future, according to a Pentagon training video, will be militaristic, dystopian and far from friendly to freedom. Indeed, all signs point to the battlefield of the future being the American home front. Anticipating this, the government plans to have the military work in conjunction with local police to quell civil unrest domestically.

Government censorship of anything it classifies as disinformation. In the government’s ongoing assault on those who criticize the government—whether that criticism manifests itself in word, deed or thought—government and corporate censors claiming to protect us from dangerous, disinformation campaigns are, in fact, laying the groundwork now to preempt any “dangerous” ideas that might challenge the power elite’s stranglehold over our lives.

Threat assessments. The government has a growing list—shared with fusion centers and law enforcement agencies—of ideologies, behaviors, affiliations and other characteristics that could flag someone as suspicious and result in their being labeled potential enemies of the state. Before long, every household in America will be flagged as a threat and assigned a threat score. It’s just a matter of time before you find yourself wrongly accused, investigated and confronted by police based on a data-driven algorithm or risk assessment culled together by a computer program run by artificial intelligence.

War on cash. The government and its corporate partners are engaged in a concerted campaign to shift consumers towards a digital mode of commerce that can easily be monitored, tracked, tabulated, mined for data, hacked, hijacked and confiscated when convenient. This push for a digital currency dovetails with the government’s war on cash, which it has been subtly waging for some time now. In recent years, just the mere possession of significant amounts of cash could implicate you in suspicious activity and label you a criminal.

Expansive surveillance. AI surveillance harnesses the power of artificial intelligence and widespread surveillance technology to do what the police state lacks the manpower and resources to do efficiently or effectively: be everywhere, watch everyone and everything, monitor, identify, catalogue, cross-check, cross-reference, and collude. Everything that was once private is now up for grabs to the right buyer. With every new AI surveillance technology that is adopted and deployed without any regard for privacy, Fourth Amendment rights and due process, the rights of the citizenry are being marginalized, undermined and eviscerated.

Militarized police. Having transformed local law enforcement into extensions of the military, the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the FBI are moving into the next phase of the transformation, turning the nation’s police officers into techno-warriors, complete with iris scanners, body scanners, thermal imaging Doppler radar devices, facial recognition programs, license plate readers, cell phone extraction software, Stingray devices and so much more.

Police shootings of unarmed citizens. Owing in large part to the militarization of local law enforcement agencies, not a week goes by without more reports of hair-raising incidents by police imbued with a take-no-prisoners attitude and a battlefield approach to the communities in which they serve. Police brutality and the use of excessive force continues unabated.

False flags and terrorist attacks. Almost every tyranny being perpetrated by the U.S. government against the citizenry—purportedly to keep us safe and the nation secure—has come about as a result of some threat manufactured in one way or another by our own government. This has become the shadow government’s modus operandi regardless of which party is in power: the government creates a menace—knowing full well the ramifications such a danger might pose to the public—then without ever owning up to the part it played in unleashing that particular menace on an unsuspecting populace, it demands additional powers in order to protect “we the people” from the threat.

Endless wars to keep America’s military’s empire employed. The military and security industrial complexes that have advocated that the U.S. remain at war, year after year, are the very entities that will continue to profit the most from America’s expanding military empire abroad and here at home.

Erosions of private property. Private property means little at a time when SWAT teams and other government agents can invade your home, break down your doors, kill your dog, wound or kill you, damage your furnishings and terrorize your family. Likewise, if government officials can fine and arrest you for growing vegetables in your front yard, praying with friends in your living room, installing solar panels on your roof, and raising chickens in your backyard, you’re no longer the owner of your property.

Overcriminalization. The government has increasingly adopted the authoritarian notion that it knows best and therefore must control, regulate and dictate almost everything about the citizenry’s public, private and professional lives. Overregulation and overcriminalization have been pushed to such outrageous limits that federal and state governments now require on penalty of a fine that individuals apply for permission before they can grow exotic orchids, host elaborate dinner parties, gather friends in one’s home for Bible studies, give coffee to the homeless, let their kids manage a lemonade stand, keep chickens as pets, or braid someone’s hair.

Strip searches and the denigration of bodily integrity. Court rulings undermining the Fourth Amendment and justifying invasive strip searches have left us powerless against police empowered to forcefully draw our blood, forcibly take our DNA, strip search us, and probe us intimately. Individuals—men and women alike—continue to be subjected to what is essentially government-sanctioned rape by police in the course of “routine” traffic stops.

Censorship. First Amendment activities are being pummeled, punched, kicked, choked, chained and generally gagged all across the country. Free speech zones, bubble zones, trespass zones, anti-bullying legislation, zero tolerance policies, hate crime laws and a host of other legalistic maladies dreamed up by politicians and prosecutors have conspired to corrode our core freedoms. The reasons for such censorship vary widely from political correctness, safety concerns and bullying to national security and hate crimes but the end result remains the same: the complete eradication of what Benjamin Franklin referred to as the “principal pillar of a free government.”

Taxation Without Any Real Representation. As a Princeton University survey indicates, our elected officials, especially those in the nation’s capital, represent the interests of the rich and powerful rather than the average citizen. We are no longer a representative republic. With Big Business and Big Government having fused into a corporate state, the president and his state counterparts—the governors—have become little more than CEOs of the Corporate State, which day by day is assuming more government control over our lives. Never before have average Americans had so little say in the workings of their government and even less access to their so-called representatives.

Clearly, the year 2025 presents a crossroads: we can passively accept the ongoing erosion of our freedoms, or we can rise to the challenge and defend the principles that have made America great.

History has shown that even in the darkest of times, the flame of liberty can never be truly extinguished.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, the choice is ours.

Originally published via the Rutherford Institute

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]. Nisha Whitehead is the Executive Director of The Rutherford Institute. Information about The Rutherford Institute is available at www.rutherford.org.

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samson
samson
Jan 20, 2025 10:36 AM

Please view: ShatterTheSwarm.com

Themo
Themo
Jan 17, 2025 11:22 PM

The homosexual, anal-pervert (a German-American found this out and made it public!), deranged self-proclaimed “nationalist”, fraudster and money-sucker, the psychopath “dr” Quackory Schlongson (civil name “Greg” Johnson) repeats his worship of a Japanese suicide every year, yet every non-American with only three brain cells knows that this Japanese MAN would have made Schlongson into Japanese-style meat salad with his sharp sword! And that would be exactly the right thing to do! S.C.U.M.! What does this arrogant faggot/tunte/SCHWUCHTEL/SCHWULETTE think she is!!! IT’S ENOUGH, “dude”/”comrade”!

https://counter-currents.com/2025/01/remembering-yukio-mishima-16/

Lordy, now everything is quite clear
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Emil
Emil
Jan 17, 2025 5:39 PM

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2025/01/17/white-dreams-and-the-politics-of-cold-turkey-the-internecine-proclivities-of-white-people/

For example, I have regularly suffered from nightmares for about two years (after very drastic events in my life, separation from descendants, death of family members). My influence on this is zero. Sometimes it is better, sometimes more “traumatic” (Traum means Dream in German).

In dreams, I am basically a loser who is deprived and denied everything. My dreams are a horror scenario concerning human relationships. My waking state is a paradise in comparison.

I can’t explain how or why this happens, because in my waking state I am a relatively carefree person (although there would be endless reasons for others in my position to worry).

There are also people for whom this is the exact opposite: Waking is a nightmare, while sleep is the only salvation.

A Jewish “psychoanalyst” would probably conclude that I had successfully learned to repress my “fears”, whereas in my sleep they would just pop up again like a ball that you can’t keep permanently under water without it escaping to the surface.

I suppress “fears” by denying them completely! I negate them! I deny them any nourishment, I starve them. I make them ineffective by denying them their existence, in which they can first manifest and spread until they end up taking over and occupying the whole mind.

When fear takes hold of the mind, this manifests itself in very unpleasant physical symptoms. Fear (die Angst) is feminine in German, courage (der Mut, the overcoming of fear) is masculine. Which means that fear is an insidious disease of the soul, based on the feminine principle of shying away from a fight and withdrawing as a loser.

Then these fear-mongers try to persuade you that “your” fears do exist, that you should finally take note of them. They simply don’t exist, for the sole reason that fears are “transmitted” to us by our fellow human beings. However, I refuse to accept the pernicious package of these diaper-soft panic and alarm letter carriers.

If you take a closer look at the subject of fear, it is a nebulous word that conveys powerlessness, despair and helplessness. One literally pokes around in the “fog”, while the fog is the feminine-unconcrete, indirect, indefinable. Fear is alarmism in the face of a permanent threat.

It is also important to know that fear is the opposite of freedom. Fear (Angst) has the same word root as narrowness (Enge) in German. Linguistically, fear is related to Furcht, which is a little more concrete than the bad “German Angst”.

If you ask someone what exactly they are afraid of, they can react by activating their Geist and verbalizing their “irrational” fear and taking precautionary measures. For example, someone suffering from a fear of flying can avoid flying and instead use a ship as a means of travel.

The fear of a plane crash, for example, is the lack of trust in the competence of other people or their “absolutely reliable technology”. Some people need ground under their feet to feel safe. The fear of great heights is probably the fear of losing control or an unconscious longing for death that one could give in to.

If you do not stand up against fearful thoughts or thoughts of fearful content, which are always directed towards the future, they will take hold of you and bring you down. Fatalism, defeatism, pessimism, doomsaying. This is capitulation to supposed fate.

One must also be aware of the following mode of action: What I focus my mind on will grow and increase. This is a natural law. If I occupy myself daily with negative content, listen to depressive music etc., this content will lead to a loss of inner freedom. Something always sticks with you and rubs off on you.

That is why the Roman Juvenal’s statement that “one should beware of one’s dreams” is idiotic at best. Dreams are the unconscious emptying out its garbage bag in a motley and unsorted manner, nothing more. No countermeasure is possible except an active and fundamentally self-confident way of life.

That brings us to the subject of affluent waste. The Germans are notorious for their recycling mania. The Jews claim that they, too, have been sorted out and separated, even recycled as lampshades, hair mattresses and soap. The innate collective Jewish psychopathy, which is also expressed in ahistorical Hollywood horror cinema, presumably plays an important role here.

“Buried alive”: The consumerist “hording disorder” (German “Messie-Syndrom”) is an expression of mental/physical weakness und impotence. https://counter-currents.com/2025/01/hoarders/

Holistically speaking, no digestion takes place here, neither physically nor mentally, in which the useful is separated from the garbage. Like a fat body that can no longer keep up with the elimination of solids in the face of further food intake. This is probably why many overweight Americans are also messies.

Professor Sunic notes that the “fine” British saying “Be careful what you wish for” lacks a continental European equivalent. To be honest, I’m not surprised at all, because the saying is totally pointless and idiotic.

You should not be careful of your wishes, because all poor people wish for wealth. Rich people, however, are convinced that they are entitled to wealth. What you expect will come true, so adjust your expectations positively and always expect the best! “Wishful thinking” is anything but confidence.

The only thing that works is structured, realistic thinking and action, and achieving goals step by step through perseverance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Kondo

Emil
Emil
Jan 17, 2025 11:35 PM
Reply to  Emil

I’m aware that our lives end with a surrender to the inevitable. I have experienced this many times with loved ones who, after a lifetime of independence, were finally at the mercy of total dependence and lost their will to live for that very reason.

I am prepared for this. “Life is not a pony farm” (German proverb). The somewhat worn-out term resilience means not being discouraged despite defeats and disappointments. “Humor means laughing anyway,” is a German proverb.

“Und ihr habt doch gesiegt!” (“And yet you won!”) is a slogan from National Socialism. Even if they were only given 12 short years, they were worth it. These people, who experienced terrible things, got more out of life than our segregated culture of losers.

So it’s not about “wishing, waiting, wondering”, or “fake it til you make it”, but about the conscious attitude, the mindset of still snotting in the face of death with the words “And yet it’s worth living!” Until then, I’m dancing on the edge of the volcano! For this very reason!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jan 16, 2025 11:19 AM

What about the Police State and the brutal Policemen who are suppressing you guys and your freedom. What about them??

yo-man
yo-man
Jan 16, 2025 5:25 AM

We’re not talking about Dr. Quackory Schlongson aka Gregory Johnson, we’re talking about an extremely repulsive “American” with a German last name. I must preface this by saying that I was not aware of the extent of homoerotic perversion.

https://www.them.us/story/tom-of-finland-co-founder-durk-dehner-dropped-international-mr-leather-judge-nazi-regalia

iskratov
iskratov
Jan 15, 2025 7:06 AM

”Autrement dit, si l’émancipation de chacun est la condition de l ’émancipation de tous, l’émancipation n’est pas pour autant un plaisir solitaire. Et si l’on peut échapper à la servitude volontaire en chassant le tyran de sa tête, on ne peut briser assujettissement involontaire au despotisme du capital que par la lutte des classes.”
Daniel Bensaïd, Le spectacle, stade ultime du fétichisme de la marchandise : Marx, Marcuse, Debord, Lefebvre, Baudrillard, etc

iskratov
iskratov
Jan 14, 2025 10:05 PM

the world zionist power, the one at the helm of financial capitalism. the supreme power. Wars, wars and wars that will reshape the world. The end of democracies and Constitutions. Digital slavery, slavery and that’s it.

Joe
Joe
Jan 14, 2025 4:44 PM

From Alpha To Omega: The American passport is now as valuable as the Lithuanian. Only the Venezuelan has lost more value. The question arises as to 1. how this is evaluated, and 2. where you want to travel with an American passport when the whole world wants to go to America. https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2025/01/08/worlds-most-powerful-passport-2025/

entitlement
entitlement
Jan 14, 2025 4:36 PM

THEE gayest band Lol. It’s amazing what Maga Repub pseudo Populist Ko£hChri$tian Conservatives will agree with as long as it is Trump doing it.

5 thousand dollars + for a ticket

But the Trannie Gay Lezza LTBG Pride Armageddon screamers now ok as there Savior says it is OK.

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Emil
Emil
Jan 14, 2025 4:08 PM

https://substack.com/home/post/p-154546185

Lost in the woods, lost in translation? There is no doubt that we are dealing here with a highly complex, evidence-based and empirically validated finding. Keith Woods translated into Indo-Aryan is Keshav Woodacharya.

“Goa Goa” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7IGiBJU4c

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_trance

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwUc-inTFq4oeRyHdsa09-pZw0Hw7nA-Y

https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/is-robert-sepehr-jewish
https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/robert-sepehr-following-the-money-6fc

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-robert-sepehr-jewish-NVRf4oEcTjWGIPvBRSlDfw

“The ‘film’ is an cynical, infamous, malicious piece of Indophobic racism that focuses on overemphasizing the dark side”, goes the unanimous verdict of the thought surveillance. But the facts it exploits cannot be completely dismissed.

https://rumble.com/v5qx3k8-codex-pajeet-ii-india-the-worst-country-on-earth.html

Let’s argue, it is not entirely unfunny in places due to the abuse of an AI voice of “Sir David Attenborough” pretending to be the serious narrator, although the laughter sticks in your throat in horror at the fact that the West intends, as Peter Scholl-Latour put it, “to import (not only) all of Calcutta”.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jan 14, 2025 3:31 PM

“Freedom’s just another word, for nothin’ left to lose.”

There’s still a lot left to lose.

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 14, 2025 7:04 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

But yet then again, there is still a lot to gain.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jan 14, 2025 11:02 AM

A very good reason for Europe to break up NATO, end diplomatic relations with the US and denounce every dystopian value listed in this statement of US human disgustingness.

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 14, 2025 7:06 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Square up financially first naturally, then cut um loose.

bob
bob
Jan 14, 2025 10:37 AM

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 10:04 AM

Here are some of the names of the Turds at the top who are sucking the Life out of humanity:

https://winteroak.org.uk/2025/01/14/impact-imperialists-eye-big-opportunities-in-india/

Colin T
Colin T
Jan 14, 2025 11:13 AM
Reply to  Johnny

And as for public health in India essential reading courtesy of the aptly named Awaken India Movement because, as in other countries, much of the population remain asleep India’s Covid-19 Task Force & “Experts” Exposed: Conflicts of Interest in Our Public Health System – Awaken India Movement

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 11:33 AM
Reply to  Colin T

Two excellent pieces.
Thanks Colin.

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 2:27 PM
Reply to  Colin T

From September 2021, the same response as all over the globe, copying the PR C.
People have learned since. Again singling out India, not a word about the source of Covid or the lockdown regime, the CPC party. Par for this limited hang out.

Let's be Frank Joshua
Let's be Frank Joshua
Jan 14, 2025 4:23 PM
Reply to  antonym

So, why are you always here, like a stuck record?

Lu1
Lu1
Jan 15, 2025 12:00 AM

anto is a big forehead with nothing behind it.

Cannot, therefore, connect dots (or anything else).

Colin T
Colin T
Jan 14, 2025 5:20 PM
Reply to  antonym

Then go elsewhere! Or change the record

antonym
antonym
Jan 15, 2025 1:20 AM
Reply to  Colin T

Same for you Colin Todhunter.

Let's be Frank Joshua
Let's be Frank Joshua
Jan 15, 2025 4:37 AM
Reply to  antonym

You are complaining about this site almost every day while skulking behind anonymity. Evolve from trolling or just move on.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 11:29 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Thanks Colin.
Keep up the good work.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 11:34 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Oops.
Should be below Colin’s reply.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 9:35 AM

Just stumbled across this on You Tube (as one does).
Some of you have probably seen it.
Van Morrison speaking out against the theft of freedom during the $camdemic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6UQTLg91GU

He looks angry, and he had every fucking right to be angry.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 14, 2025 9:16 PM
Reply to  Johnny

This video comes from three years ago. So early ’22 and about 18 months after these little nuggets from the sulphurous swamps of the first big covid rush:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54194408
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54239511
The memes are all in place, not least the bald faced reversal of
“Mr Swann said the songs were “dangerous”, challenging Sir Van to present his own scientific facts.”
And this customary hypocrisy:
“Mr Swann said the songs are a “smear” on those involved in the public health response to the virus.”
Those “involved in the public health response” were those ordered to shovel the shit or lose their jobs. And, once coerced, anyone who points out the shit is “smearing” the shit shovelers!
Meanwhile “However, Mr Swann urged people to “listen to the health advice coming from the professionals – the chief medical officer and the chief scientific adviser. They are the people who see the dangers.”” i.e. they are the people who see the danger of being fired if they don’t point to the king’s new clothes.  

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 9:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Thanks George.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 15, 2025 2:25 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Hopefully, Mr Swann has had his swan song, while Van plays on.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 14, 2025 6:14 AM

Speaking of Death–

Meryl Nass publishes a summary of the newest evidence that the clotting mechanism was deliberately inserted into SARS-CoV-2.
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-sars-cov-2-spike-protein-was

judith
judith
Jan 14, 2025 12:34 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Thanks for this link.

Lu1
Lu1
Jan 15, 2025 12:11 AM
Reply to  Penelope

How could you possibly know that all the co-n-vid “deaths” were not asympomatic SARS-CoV-2 and co-infected symptomatic one of those pre 2019 (similarly bullsh*t) viruses that they still haven’t got a test for.

What a spidersweb clotting crock of bolix.

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 14, 2025 5:23 AM

Bank RFID cards – debit or credit – in your pocket can be read using cheap devices, unless you have shielded it. Crooks in a car outside a retail outlet can monitor transactions indoors. It gets more insane by the day.

Howard
Howard
Jan 14, 2025 2:55 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Normally I wouldn’t air my personal woes in a forum; but I think this is apropos of your comment.

My woe is this: given all the hacking and spying techniques, just about anyone can get into my online banking account. Except for one person: me. The stupid – and totally meaningless – “secure banking code” that has to be entered is no longer sent via email. Only phone and text. I don’t text nor do I care to have to sit by the phone awaiting a call from my bank’s AI – which has yet to update to my new phone number. So I can’t even close my useless online bank account. It’s just lucky I have so little money or I might be a target for crooks/spies/feds.

BTW, I contacted my bank and asked how a text was more secure than an email. I never got an answer back.

entitlement
entitlement
Jan 14, 2025 4:35 PM
Reply to  Howard

It is for your own protection and prevention of fraud.

MartinU
MartinU
Jan 14, 2025 5:23 PM
Reply to  Howard

Technology tends to be for the convenience of a provider. I ran into another example recently with the request to sign a for ‘on line’. I’ve worked with signature verification technologies and with the possible exception of those small signature pads you see in banks, the ones that rarely produce a facsimile of your paper signature, their technology is Voodoo. That is, it relies primarily on secret sauce and belief. It persists because its good for the provider — cheaper and a lot more convenient than snail mail or similar — but its security is dubious because the assumption that is founded on just doesn’t hold true.

But ‘they’ have the power, ‘you’ don’t, so your place in life is to put up and shut up. And — if a fraud is perpetuated on you then its the very devil to unwind what its essentially their mistake.

Ort
Ort
Jan 14, 2025 7:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

Geez, I compulsively air my personal woes in Internet forums– to each his own, as they say.

I’ll try to forgo a self-expanding massive screed making the case that computer technology seems designed, consciously or not, to destablize end-users’ sanity and well-being with the death of a thousand cuts. It’s all the more vexing because these cuts are masked with a Rhetoric of Technical Benevolence that insists that they are all continuous improvements in service of User-Friendly Progress. Bah! Humbug!  😠

Whoops, I’m already “self-expanding”. For the moment, I only wanted to commiserate by mentioning that I’ve owned a basic smartphone for several years, purchased for very occasional use– mostly to keep in touch with iPhone addicted relatives to coordinate travel plans, etc. Perhaps foolishly, I entered my mobile number on various commercial websites, including doctors’ offices, often because I was sick of being electronically or virtually pestered to “complete my contact information for better service and security’.

Two gripes: although I was/am always careful to select my so-called “landline”* number for contact purposes, over the years I’ve noticed a “creep” in which venues like doctors’ offices unilaterally switched to using my mobile number for contacts. I usually find out about this when I turn it on after weeks of inactivity, and discover old VM or texts. No human has ever satisfactorily explained just how this unauthorized switch happens.

And then there’s the “secondary verification” nonsense. Sites that don’t use telephone or e-mail confirmation force me to dust off and turn on my smartphone to receive security code texts. Yet in almost every case, when the webpage tells me a code has just been sent to the phone, it doesn’t arrive; I just sit there waiting for a while before attempting a second request. 

If I’m lucky, eventually the code-bearing text will arrive. Sometimes the third request will produce the unsent previous codes to appear in a belated bunch. I’m sure that HAL 9000 would sternly inform me that I am to blame– that no matter how long I waited for that first code to arrive, I just screwed things up by sending additional requests “too soon” or somesuch.

* Tangent: I adjusted to the word “landline”, but it still sounds nautical to me and sticks in my curmudgeonly craw: secure the landline, Mr. Christian! Avast, matey! ⚓

How I do go on! Well, by my prolix standards it arguably isn’t a massive screed. 

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red lester
red lester
Jan 14, 2025 8:26 PM
Reply to  Howard

It enables them to tie a mobile phone to an address,bank account and an email. This data earns them money.

Big Al
Big Al
Jan 14, 2025 4:13 AM

Freedom. I don’t think we can be reminded enough or talk about it enough. To me, that’s what it’s all about. So fuck it, thanks Whiteheads. All those that already know everything fucking thing should come up with the “remedies”. Put up or shut up.

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 14, 2025 10:53 AM
Reply to  Big Al

You cross a plateau up there where suddenly the ones on top, say there really are no remedies, then they tell you to simply shut up and live your life.

0use4msm
0use4msm
Jan 14, 2025 3:44 AM

It’s the return Debbie Downer.

entitlement
entitlement
Jan 14, 2025 4:40 PM
Reply to  0use4msm



Joe
Joe
Jan 14, 2025 3:17 AM

None of this happens if enough people say No

iskratov
iskratov
Jan 14, 2025 10:28 PM
Reply to  Joe

I think it will happen anyway, with a nuclear threat at the gates, they will take us with hunger, no one wants these things, we just suffer them. It is the law of the strongest, the Greeks and the Latins had millions of slaves, no one wanted to be a slave, they were forced, they had been degraded to objects. Spartacus gathered an army of slaves, gladiators, to fight, but they had weapons. We proles are all unarmed.

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 2:04 AM

Ok, putting this post in “pending” proves my point about this site.

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 5:01 AM
Reply to  antonym

Limited Hangout

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 5:02 AM
Reply to  antonym

Off Guardian is a

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 5:05 AM
Reply to  antonym

Listen to Michael Shellenberger here after 1.30

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 5:05 AM
Reply to  antonym

entitlement
entitlement
Jan 14, 2025 4:48 PM
Reply to  antonym

Antonym, your energy is so strong.
They ban everyone who message is powerful. Gandi, Trump < Alex Jones, Tommy and now even Je$u£ and you.
Researcher got keyed. £$circus got the boot.
I left the left had everyone of his comments deleted except the 1000 still up.
Dung was sacked.
pending is not banned.
pre pending is not banned.
Even tonyopmoc has some comments allowed.
It is important to have the dummies all in one place echo chambering the repeats to make the site/author feel important.

Like an asbo wear it with honor that you’ve scared them enough to deem you a terrorist comment threat.

 💪  🕎 

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 14, 2025 5:53 PM
Reply to  entitlement

Researcher got keyed. £$circus got the boot.
I left the left had everyone of his comments deleted except the 1000 still up.

Well, tbh, atm I’m thinking all these identities might just be you lol

Otherwise you keep remarkable track of who hasn’t posted in a hot minute.

However, none of these people were banned or suffered mass deletion of any posts, we can assure you (as perhaps you know very well 😉).

This is all anonymous anyway, who will ever really know who’s who?! I could actually be Bill Gates. Perhaps I really am. A2

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jan 13, 2025 11:58 PM

yeh, if you get the propaganda slot, you can make lots of money on the internet by promoting FEAR…whilst my girlfriend and me, from Lancashire moved to London…from the occasional steam train to Blackpool Oldham Wakes Week for me…I asked her will you Marry me…She said you ain’t going to London without me…So I guess it was pretty scary on her first day at work in the City of London….and so I came with her, walked over the Bridge from St Margarets ( much prettier than Skelmersdale ), and we got the train together from Richmond to Waterloo….Now we have to take the Underground..and walk over London Bridge and walk a bit…to your New Place of Work…

Smile – I just know they are going totally f’cking love you.

Prle
Prle
Jan 13, 2025 11:21 PM

Freedom only dies for those who allow this to happen to them.

iskratov
iskratov
Jan 14, 2025 10:36 PM
Reply to  Prle

The Greeks and the Latins had millions of slaves, no one wanted to be a slave, they were forced, they had been degraded to objects. Spartacus gathered an army of slaves, gladiators, to fight, but they had weapons. We proles are all unarmed.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 13, 2025 11:18 PM

Speaking of dying:

From the destruction of the Aral Sea to the destruction of Boreal forests around the Northern Hemisphere, the ceaseless and insane quest for profits at any cost will continue:

Bored now
Bored now
Jan 14, 2025 10:52 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Thank goodness for the world bank, UNESCO and WWF eh?
The cause of and solution to all the world’s problems both real and imagined.

Nick
Nick
Jan 13, 2025 10:03 PM

John Whitehead doesn’t really investigate the identity of ‘the rich and powerful’ he blames for waging war on the American people, those who have ‘fused big business and government’ into a corporate state. I’m unsure why, but relieved that more and more voices on Twitter and elsewhere, with a formidable grasp of history, evidence and logic, are now openly identifying those collectively responsible for the evils listed here, and for having long planned the ongoing destruction of the West. Begins with ‘Z’…

les online
les online
Jan 13, 2025 9:30 PM

A profile of Queen Lizzie still adorns Australia’s $5 note, a profile of
Queen Lizzie showing her to be around 40 years younger…
Some newly minted Australian coins have a profile of Queen Lizzie’s
son, KfC3. It, too, portrays him as much, much younger…
Am not sure if this is Fake (Royal Fakery) or Dis-information…
(A Picture of Dorian Gray – in reverse)…

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jan 13, 2025 7:36 PM

Man, this always happens when we are allowed out of the pen.
You would think they would know by now.
Trained to cycle thoughts every month.
Prefer AI cgi
So it goes, mind control, eg. kurt, dick, or well, there is a 1984
£2 coin

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jan 13, 2025 8:55 PM

I had to wank of the cat to feed the fucking dog,
and
I had to wank of the dog to feed the fucking cat

The Fall – Greenway

Bruce
Bruce
Jan 13, 2025 7:23 PM

Excellent analysis, thanks! May I suggest, though, that every time you have an urge to use the word “pandemic” to describe what we have all lived through these past few years, you use the word “event” or “operation” instead? Seems like either of these words would be a much more accurate description.

judith
judith
Jan 14, 2025 12:44 PM
Reply to  Bruce

I refer to it as “the nightmare”. I refuse to say the Cvid word. I will not honor that big fat lie.

So, I just say “When all the gyms closed during the nightmare….”. People seem to know what I’m talking about.

Ort
Ort
Jan 14, 2025 7:15 PM
Reply to  Bruce

I settled on “scamdemic” fairly early. I’m OK with “plandemic” too.

Of course, I admit that deliberately ironic or snarky pejorative terms will be offensive and even inflammatory to Megadeath Virus of Doom True Believers; I am selective in using them if I think it will upset my interlocutor(s).

Still, they’re far more accurate than the Big Lie term “pandemic”. 😠

Duckman
Duckman
Jan 13, 2025 7:20 PM

If “covid 19” was the school fire alarm going off… and most of those here were already hanging out the back o the bike sheds, smoking fags n being all "alt"...
and if those who as a result of hearing the fire alarm ran, but strangely never made it past the foyer and are still in perilous doom, then why should the back o the bike sheds be any different?

do endlessly varying attempts to conceptualise, inteligenisise, disseminate and autopsy ante mortem really move the game any further ahead?

Most have a hunch "its all a bit bigger than We think", yet fall short of the mark by consitently evaluating whatsappenin using outmoded, redundant concepts that no longer suit a “reality” that is most assuredly in flux

i dont have solutions for ~Your, or mine own apathy, impotence and frustration, yet should You care to look, i can advance Your studies

Ok, the frog thing, its relevance in kabbalah and where some of this sh*t is headed:

https://odysee.com/@CJBbooks.com:8/2025-01-01-11-46-55:3

So? You want something short n snappy, in a nutshell, a bitesize morsel, manageable, yet revelationary, them ol` dots joined, Ok:

https://mothman777.substack.com/p/the-jew-and-the-german-people-by

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Jan 13, 2025 6:29 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2025-01-11. Heart failure, related deaths caused by “cardiotoxin” found in CV mRNA jab. Mild dementia doubled (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).

Thom
Thom
Jan 13, 2025 6:20 PM

And now here in the UK, is the news that George Orwell is going to be commemorated on a new £2 – which has an eye design in the middle and the slogan ‘Big Brother is Watching You’! Is that a threat or an admission?

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 13, 2025 7:43 PM
Reply to  Thom

Christ. That isn’t a joke, it’s real.

They are really rubbing our noses in it and laughing at us.

Apparently the “eye” is actually a camera lens. I assume they mean it’s an image of a camera lens, not a functional spy camera. But who knows?

les online
les online
Jan 13, 2025 9:37 PM
Reply to  Thom

George Orwell was an alias, so maybe a it’s a commemoratory note/coin
of how They Got Away With It – Again? (aka – We Fooled The Masses Again !!)

DavidF
DavidF
Jan 13, 2025 6:14 PM

Every road leads to your book (and its fictional counterpart).
Relentless but brazen marketing.
Let’s hope it doesn’t go into reprint.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 13, 2025 6:02 PM

I don’t think people fully understand how government wants to micromanage every aspect of our lives AND lower our quality of life for no good reason. The ultimate aim is permanent rationing of everything, even walking too far without approval.

It is deliberate policy to keep even the favoured groups somewhere near the brink of hardship, because a general state of scarcity increases the importance of small privileges and thus magnifies the distinction between one group and another.

– 1984

Nick
Nick
Jan 13, 2025 10:06 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Globalists have no reason for imposing Agenda 30?

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 14, 2025 11:52 AM
Reply to  Nick

They do, and have oft stated them. Maybe he means no reason that he, Jonathan, considers good? 🤔

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 14, 2025 2:42 PM

They obviously have selfish reasons for wanting god-like power and wealth.

But the annoying thing is they don’t actually NEED to impose hardship and misery on the public to achieve those things. They are doing that out of spite as an objective in and of itself, because they are sociopaths.

Ergo no good reason; not even necessity from their own perspective.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 15, 2025 5:28 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

You’re right, no rational reason at that level, among the functional psychopath leadership or the sociopaths that help them enforce their vision and quest for power, but much of the heavy lifting for their agenda is done by ostensibly ‘well-intentioned’ bureaucrats and public servants, philanthropic groups/NGOs, and community groups, all believing fully in their purpose and the official narrative, whatever it is, and about whatever issue.

They believe they are serving the general welfare and greater good, doing the Lord’s Work, and they have reasons for days.

sandy
sandy
Jan 13, 2025 5:06 PM
Jonas Carling
Jonas Carling
Jan 13, 2025 1:51 PM

This is a very concised and well-written plot of the future to come, although I wished it had been a bit better sourced.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 13, 2025 1:22 PM

“Indeed, we’ve been down this road so many times before that there should be no surprise when, no matter who occupies the White House, we find ourselves subjected to more of the same when it comes to the erosion of civil liberties and the increasing power of the government and its corporate partners-in-crime.”

And no surprise either that the Whiteheads keep chronicling it on a weekly basis without ever discussing specific solutions, only vague notions like, “we can rise to the challenge and defend the principles that have made America great.” He’s a constitutional lawyer, Offer some legal advice, already.

I like, respect and appreciate OG more than about any other non-mainstream news and commentary site I’ve ever read, but I the routine inclusion, reposting of the Whiteheads’ articles is feeling a bit counterproductive at this point (and OG’s not the only site doing it).

The Rutherford Institute and their articles are probably a great resource for people newly awakening and needing a summary of what the American system was said to be (but never was), how it started out, and what it’s become, but the endless repetition of the list of corruptions doesn’t feel constructive for the already and long ago awakened. Feels like arrested development, actually, and I have to wonder about the person sitting down to write basically the same litany every single week, and how he does not feel the need to move on, add on. Don’t trust that.

Having made comments about the Whiteheads a few times now here on OG, I won’t make any further about them, lest I become guilty of the redundancy I’ve accused them of, and will just skip the Whiteheads articles in future, knowing already what they will contain, but I hope the OG admin will consider the ongoing utility and value of the RI reposts.

I think 60+ years since JFK was killed and almost 25 years since 9/11 occurred that discussion of remedy should be prioritized, become an intrinsic part of the dialogue, particularly on such a mostly enlightened and civil site as OG.

Sal P
Sal P
Jan 13, 2025 4:25 PM

Yes. Totally agree.

Howard
Howard
Jan 13, 2025 4:52 PM

I look forward to the Whitehead articles because they give me a forum for expressing my own ideas of what’s insane about America. There actually are very few other types of articles at OffG which specifically reference American derangement.

As to solutions, there are none. The solution to everything the Whiteheads ever posted is always the same: The American People. I’ve said over and over that if the people would stop letting the few trinkets that trickle down from America’s exploitation warp their thinking, they might begin to understand how these trinkets are actually destroying their own freedom.

Nick
Nick
Jan 13, 2025 10:12 PM
Reply to  Howard

Suppose you could eliminate either the America people or the American state, in their entirety. Which action would most likely provide ‘the solution to everything’?

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 14, 2025 4:41 AM
Reply to  Howard

I’m sure you’re their target audience then. They give voice and vent to your dissatisfaction, which you see no solution to, and thus need the outlet, that being all you have now and expect to be able to look forward to in future, no remedy in sight.

I don’t share that outlook, and that seems a futile pursuit for both writer and reader, but good for you if you find value in their writings.

Howard
Howard
Jan 14, 2025 3:14 PM

There’s no solution because, as I noted, there is a solution – and that’s for the people to start taking their well being more seriously than their social standing. Somehow the vast majority seem to think that if they are successful at the few things their society values (career, marriage, family, savings for retirement) then all is well.

So if one by one each right protected in the Bill of Rights gets axed, that’s okay with them so long as they can get one more job and keep their social standing going. And that precious standing of theirs is going to hit the fan sooner rather than later as the American empire crumbles.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 15, 2025 5:15 PM
Reply to  Howard

You’re right about what is acceptable within the herd members’ minds, in general.

They are compelled to conform and remain a part of the group, and to pursue and expand their own interests to the extent that the system permits any given interest at whatever given time (stock market IRA: ok; alternate currency: not ok). When that element changes, so do they, and a natural law level of personal freedom doesn’t enter into it and is of no importance to them. If they are reduced to competing for a good bunk at the gulag, they won’t think twice about it. That will be instantly legitimate for them.

So, within that framework, and with any notion that a solution is only to be manifested via the enlightened awakening of a large % of the herd who will then use the system to modify rules back in the right direction, you’re right, there is no solution. That almost certainly would never happen, and likely never could. The system isn’t set-up to be fixable, only to appear to be so.

In that light, the Bill of Rights is not an enforceable set of rights, we can’t insist or effectively demand any of those enumerated rights be observed, and have no actual recourse when they are violated, which is the observed norm now. We are already now not protected by it.

I think the freedoms people expected in the West since the Enlightenment were merely customary, and expected by a large % of pretty well educated and civil people for a couple hundred years (my parents’ generation, certainly), and it would have been a diminished returns hassle, in the Machiavellian sense, for the ownership class to overcome and openly violate at that point, particularly, say, from 1800 to 2000. That relative Golden Era is long past now, and open tyranny is not only easily possible now, but has been gradually and openly being implemented since the autumn of 2001.

My assessment is that there’s another possible solution independent of that enmeshment with the unreachable herd: Disassociation with it. Scary and inconvenient, and very possibly ineffective, but I don’t see ever fixing the system with the system, and there’s a major natural law moral component to this which is even more fundamental, but this comment is already long enough.

les online
les online
Jan 13, 2025 9:54 PM

They dont want to overthrow The System, they just want to clean it up…
Moral Outrage rarely changes anything…
But there is a danger… Corruption is endemic to The System, so the System could
collapse if its corruption was cleaned-up…
(Workers Working To Rule bring production to a standstill)…And if every driver
obeyed all the Rules of The Road, imagine the Traffic Chaos !!)…

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jan 14, 2025 4:33 AM
Reply to  les online

If they do want to clean it up, they never say how, which is my point.

Yours is another matter. We don’t know what would happen if it got cleaned up, but I don’t believe it ever could be, Too big, too complex, but am not, anyway, supporting something foul and ugly because we don’t know what would happen if we tried to make it not foul and ugly.

In any case, regular people have no leverage to insist on their rights and freedoms, which are purely customary and without teeth.

The system could, though, perhaps, be shunned and departed from. Only possible road open that I can envision.

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 1:56 AM

Yes, this stuff is almost as repetitive as Colin Todhunter’s. Better to have days without a new article than this echoing.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 5:57 AM
Reply to  antonym

I’m glad your comments have that unique sparkle of originality Antonym.

antonym
antonym
Jan 14, 2025 7:34 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Speaking from experience?

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 14, 2025 8:42 AM
Reply to  antonym

🤪

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jan 13, 2025 1:09 PM

A line was crossed when they assassinated Peanut…

Bambino La Costa
Bambino La Costa
Jan 13, 2025 12:51 PM

Please do not allow yourselves to be confused by the extremely Jewish faces of the two well-informed and highly competent experts or their almost unbearable mode and style of presentation and expression, because this is a deadly serious world threat that has so far been concealed by the secret Nazi elites in order to achieve total world domination!

The campaign, which is vital for the survival of the world, was not sent from the psychiatric ward in the Kremlin, but from the “Center for Global Disinformation”, which is based in Haifa. Both subjects are sitting in the same apartment on the 13th floor of a residential complex, separated only by a closed wooden door (like the one in the “gas chamber”).

https://rumble.com/v4s5ybt-nazi-germany-used-a-global-network-of-tunnels-to-create-a-4th-reich-with-fl.html

“10-point plan to save America’s whiteness” https://counter-currents.com/2025/01/preserving-the-white-majority-in-the-united-states-my-10-point-plan/

Do white Europeans indeed exist in America? To date, it has
been impossible to answer this crucial question conclusively.
https://www.nationalists.org/data/european-population-by-country.html

Bambino La Costa
Bambino La Costa
Jan 13, 2025 10:36 PM

Note also the large L on the forehead of the exopolitician. At first I deduced that it could have been the result of a bloody accident when “PhDr” Anfalov unexpectedly hit the edge of his heavy safe door on the head while he was absent-mindedly counting thick bundles of shekels of black money.

https://rumble.com/v4e7lj9-exposing-earths-ancient-symbiont-underground-and-space-terrestrial-nonhuman.html

But then it struck me like a flash in the night: the L stands for Lubavitcher, and was carved into his skin with a shechita knife for kosher camel meat as punishment for interfering in their shady dealings. In Israel, this is a clear, unmistakable warning:

“We have stamped you with the mark of Cain for life, and you will not get a foot on the ground anywhere, at best as a pseudo-expert on Nazi UFOs for an esoterically stultified goy audience!”

Dr. Joseph P. Farrell (aka Mr Giza Death Star), who is considered the most sought-after authority in the field of extrasensory Nazi technology, will never leave the house from embarrassment and fear for the continued guaranteed “credibility” of his bestsellers!

For this extremely serious problem there is only one blatant method in the original style of the real and documented Nazi conspiracy: the Russian-Israeli opponent, who exposes all of Farrel’s theories to comedy-ripe ridicule, must be eliminated as an unwanted intruder in the established SS alien community!

He has been unreachable for months and has even taken down the contact form on his website. Now it also explains why he was even forced to go to weirdo Brian Ruhe’s “show” and patiently watch him stroke his homosexual tomcat. But Farrell is a fighter and won’t give up. He has announced his big comeback!

This time he unpacks the whole unvarnished truth and will shock the community until they fly out of their gamer seats. Farrell is certain that Hitler not only survived in Antarctica, but has already bred a hyper-Aryan UFO clan there with the help of the big Farma companies, which are of course in cahoots with the CIA and Xi Jinping!

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 13, 2025 12:20 PM

What Labour’s “investment in public services” was always going to mean:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/12/mainlined-into-uks-veins-labour-announces-huge-public-rollout-of-ai

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 13, 2025 6:11 PM
Reply to  Edwige

A.I. stands for Automated Incompetence.

Just wait until the justice system is run by AI. (Remember how they planned that for Ukraine?)

When the AI wrongly finds you guilty and you want to appeal? “The computer says no!”

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 13, 2025 8:06 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Wait and see.
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mgeo
mgeo
Jan 14, 2025 6:07 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

For some time (at least 5 years), US courts before sentencing have depended on AI as to whether the convict was likely to commit a crime again.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 14, 2025 2:46 PM
Reply to  mgeo

A convict is less likely to commit a crime again while he is locked up. I hope the AI has this rule dialled in.

CaptainSpock
CaptainSpock
Jan 13, 2025 10:39 AM

In amidst the seemingly inescapable net which is being cast.. Remember that True Freedom is to be found within.. But of course we want and need to be free to express ourselves in the external world also..

It’s inevitable that these bodies we inhabit shall die and if we can die to the lie of who we think we are before we die, then we have won the game of life.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 13, 2025 10:47 AM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

A game without a beginning or an end.

antonym
antonym
Jan 13, 2025 10:59 AM
Reply to  Johnny

The end of that game is when the ego dies; the soul takes over.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Jan 13, 2025 6:17 PM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

I comfort myself with the fact that life has always been hard and unfair, and mostly much,much worse than we have it today.

But that won’t stop me being angry af about the deliberate and needless degradation of Western civilisation.

les online
les online
Jan 13, 2025 9:10 PM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

The bars to our prison are also found within us (emotional armouring),
which would explain why after every revolution (aka – prison break) the
revolutionaries build new prisons… Having been institutionalised they
cant handle being free (institutions being ‘frozen’ behaviour patterns)…
Civilisation or barbarism, There Is No Difference (aka – TIND) ?

Chris_Mr
Chris_Mr
Jan 13, 2025 10:29 AM

The answer to the question of “why does hot air rise” is inconsistent with the suggestion CO2 “traps” heat.

.. As air heats, the molecules / atoms move around faster causing them to increase their interactions with each other making the distance between them increase. The increased distance makes warmer air less dense and so the colder, more dense air around it, makes it boyant. As the warmer air rises it finds cooler air above which it passes its heat onto, finding an equilibrium temperature before it reaches space.

Hot air includes CO2. Any energy reflecting from the earth (which comes from the sun) heats up the air which becomes less dense, so there is no “trapping”. CO2 mainly absorbs 15 micometer radiation but immediately interacts with other atoms and molecules as explained above.

Ergo, there is no “greenhouse” effect

Given that’s wrong then so is all the rest.

Howard
Howard
Jan 13, 2025 1:00 PM
Reply to  Chris_Mr

It’s a bit difficult to understand how exactly CO2 mixing with surrounding atoms differs from CO2 being “trapped.” In either case, CO2 becomes part of the atmosphere. Science, ultimately, is plagued by the same limitation as every other discipline: semantics. Some call it mixing, Some call it trapped. The result is the same either way.

Chris_Mr
Chris_Mr
Jan 13, 2025 3:34 PM
Reply to  Howard

The “science” says CO2 “Traps” (or absorbs) heat, not that CO2 is trapped.

Howard
Howard
Jan 13, 2025 9:01 PM
Reply to  Chris_Mr

But wouldn’t anything that increases the density of the atmosphere prevent more heat from escaping back into space? They say there are now 419.3 parts per million of CO2. This sounds minuscule, but a million molecules perhaps covers an area of one square inch or so – not the entire volume of atmosphere.

Again, there are two meanings for “trap”” 1) catching and holding something in a grip; or 2) preventing something from going past a barrier. If “trap” as used to refer to CO2 falls under the second meaning, then the heat doesn’t have to be absorbed, just prevented from escaping back into space.

Chris_Mr
Chris_Mr
Jan 14, 2025 5:38 PM
Reply to  Howard

Increase the density = colder. Look on the weather map, low pressure = colder. High pressure = warmer. Higher pressure = fewer particles (atoms / molecules) per volume (lower density; which is why hot air rises).

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 13, 2025 10:22 AM

And don’t forget futile scratching posts for attempted protest.

Twitter is now steeped in shadow bans, mocking porn bots, and self aggrandising posturing from Elon. A perfect trap for would be dissidents. And I walked into it.

les online
les online
Jan 13, 2025 10:01 AM

It cant be otherwise. They are not doing it for pleasure, They are
doing it because They Are Frightened. And now They have a technology…

Should we send Them flowers and reassure Them ? Tell Them we are not
gonna rob Them, rape Their wives, drink all Their very expensive booze ?
It wont work !! They dont Trust us !!
Even after They have us fully trussed up, Their spy-eyes on us 24/7, dumbed
down by fluoridated water, or Soma, They will still be frightened…
We are not the cause of Their fears & anxieties, or Their dis-trust, but
They are not gonna take any chances…
They’ve done a Risk Assessment, and it’s too damned risky to let us live
freely… Reducing our numbers wont ease Their Fear, but They are gonna
get on with it, anyway…

Who Are THEY ? The Hierarchy Enslaving You **
** (lifted this from the Real Left site. )

Blessthebeasts
Blessthebeasts
Jan 14, 2025 1:41 PM
Reply to  les online

The saddest thing is that the majority of the population is NO threat at all. They are content to bow down to consumerism and endlessly argue about which party is running the better liar…..

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 13, 2025 9:07 AM

The War on the USian People?
No.

A war on the world.

All in the name of Mammon.