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Romania – The first “post-election” democracy?

Kit Knightly

In December 2024, a Romanian court cancelled the second round of the planned Presidential election and annulled the completed first round, citing (totally theoretical) “Russian interference”.

This caused massive protests in Romania, as you can imagine. The first round had been won by right winger Călin Georgescu following a social media-based campaign, and he was predicted to quite easily win the second round as well.

The Romanian opposition – denied a likely victory – took their case to the European Court of Human Rights.

Then, earlier today, the ECHR threw the case out without even hearing it. Apparently, the Romanian courts were perfectly within their rights to simply indefinitely postpone their election on the basis of unproven allegations, and all those people who already voted and wanted to vote again can just go to hell.

This is the ECHR, which lectures the world on rights and democratic norms on the regular.

And everyone is apparently just fine with it. It’s crazy.

Imagine the outrage in the media if Putin or Trump had suddenly cancelled elections they looked like losing because “they weren’t going to be fair”.

Anyway, now Călin Georgescu has been arrested, and his supporters are taking to the streets, while  the Romanian government is set to crack down on “conspiracy theories” and other “misinformation”.

This anti-election narrative is growing outside of Romania too.

Ukraine, of course, hasn’t had any elections in years either. They also outlawed certain political parties, religions and television channels. Meanwhile, laundering billions of dollars/pounds/euros through the Ukrainian government to boost the bottom line of arms manufacturers is considered “defending democracy”.

Last month, former EU chairman Thierry Breton remarked that they had already had to cancel the Romanian elections, and might have to do the same in Germany. (As it happens the “right side” won in Germany, so I guess that election was fair).

To a smaller extent, nine local elections across the UK have been “postponed” for at least a year for unknown reasons.

This is not about controlling the result because they could accomplish the same thing by just rigging it. We know they rig elections all the time.

No, this isn’t about controlling the votes it’s about controlling the language. Taking words and tearing them away from their old-fashioned definitions. Even inverting those meanings.

Seeding the idea that democracy doesn’t necessarily have to include voting and that, in the right circumstances, voting is actually anti-democratic and cancelling elections is more “democratic” than holding them.

“Democratic” can become a free-floating concept removed from real-world application. It’s just a nice thing, something that we and all the people on our side just are, and all the meanies on the other side are not.

We have “democracy”, and it doesn’t matter how many elections we cancel or political parties we ban, or religions we outlaw or journalists we lock up or outlets we censor…we still have democracy. Because now it means whatever we want it to mean.

Years ago, I reviewed a terrible documentary by David Dimbleby about Russia. At one point David essentially argues that just having elections does not mean you live in a democracy.

In my review I made the point that if they argue an election doesn’t make a democracy, they could eventually argue that you can be a democracy without having an election.

At the time I was mostly joking. More fool me.

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Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Mar 17, 2025 5:39 PM

Hitler came to power through the electoral system, Kit. You wouldn’t want Hitler taking power, would you?

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:01 PM

Fuck the system.
Whenever it’s stopping evil they always have excuses why they can’t use their power.
But for evil, they’re gung ho.
Cunts

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 15, 2025 10:44 AM

Democracy is an illusion, politics is just theatre and elections change nothing. Yet ruling elites will do just about anything to prevent nationalists winning. Weird.

daz
daz
Mar 11, 2025 7:41 AM

well i agree with dimbleby – voting definitely does not mean you have a democracy. just look at britain, canada, australia, etc. etc.

but if they’re now cancelling elections when results don’t go their way, that should be a huge wake-up call to those who still think their once every five year vote actually means something.

It doesn’t; ‘you have owners..’

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 15, 2025 10:46 AM
Reply to  daz

If the owners must cancel elections which ‘don’t go their way’, then voting must mean something to them.

James
James
Mar 11, 2025 3:57 AM

When are the British public going to revolt & get rid of their Revolting Politicians who are leading them to an unwinnable War with Russia? The same Politicians who are are taking away your right to free speech. There’s a lot to Revolt against.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 15, 2025 10:49 AM
Reply to  James

UK politicians, even those leading Reform, seem to be of one mind concerning Russian evil and the dangers of free speech. To whom should dissenting British voters turn?

Gladius
Gladius
Mar 10, 2025 11:06 AM

Some pictures from the disturbances on the evening of March 9 in Bucharest. Broadly, the challengers were inspired by a 1990 scenario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2hLnTsXSj0
p.s
Here’s an interesting photo from March 1st with a “protester” 🙂
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The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
Mar 8, 2025 10:03 PM

The big one that they’re building up to is the re-defintion of ‘sovereignty’ (both personal and national) to mean something else.

Here’s one of the technocratic communitarians called Jordan Hall (currently – he’s changed his name more than once) pointing to what may be in store:
“Sovereignty is the capacity to take responsibility. It is the ability to be present to the world and to respond to the world — rather than to be overwhelmed or merely reactive. Sovereignty is to be a conscious agent.”

Self-determination? Phooey – that’s old hat.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Mar 8, 2025 9:51 PM

Exceptionally unpopular Australian Prime Minister Albanese (Labour) has thankfully had tropical Cyclone Alfred make landfall on the northern New South Wales and south east Queensland coast, throwing his plans for the April federal election into disarray: “This is not a time for politics”, he said.

eman
eman
Mar 8, 2025 3:38 PM

Democracy has been kidnapped. The kidnappers are using the facade of democracy as a means to control, separate the people trapped within the borders entire nation state system (basically the whole world). Several nations have objected to kidnapper control: notable among them is Russia, China, Syria, Brazil, Palestine and several members of the global south.. but nearly all of the nation states are owned, controlled, and ruled by the kidnappers..

Governed humanity has been slow to understand so their imprisonment within the nation state system continues unabated.. The nation state system makes it easy for a few with guns to control the entire population of the world.. The only answer is to develop, provision, and equip a 2nd government with purpose and authority and to endow it with a justice system capable to govern those who govern us.. Such a 2nd government would mean that all of those who are governed would police those who govern us.

The rule of law to which those who govern would be held accountable to and to conform to would be the law that protects human rights.. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and the personal right to self-determination. That law is God’s law.

Until something like the 2nd government is created and made capable to perform its functions nothing is going to change.. Just a different bunch of kidnappers will occupy the state houses and governments. These kidnappers in power will use the nation state to differentiate humans everywhere,. Those in each nation state will be taught to fear or hate or both those humans caught in the other nation states. That makes starting wars easy. War is one of the mpost efficient methods there is for the kidnappers to keep the governed divided. The kidnappers govern to conquer, control, abuse and use the governed while the governed are busy fighting each other.

thanks for the article..

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:02 PM

Musk suggests substituting any use of ‘democracy’ by the current ruling and media classes with the term ‘bureaucracy’. It immediately becomes clear who and what they are defending so hysterically.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 8, 2025 10:23 PM

Heil Musk!

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daz
daz
Mar 11, 2025 7:43 AM

actually the sign that he WAS making there is far worse than the imaginary nazi salute you think it was.

Binra
Binra
Mar 8, 2025 11:27 AM

Democratic accountability is a process of lawful communication and relationship. Insofar as our acts impinge on others and on shared or common basis for life we are rightly accountable.
Corruption of language distorts law to become a commodity of ‘market forces’ operating as power with impunity.
Competition for mindshare as sustenance and status aligns within the gain of fiction as is a fact of life. Hence the presented PR for the ‘market forcing’ of a predatory cannibalism by stakeholder investors over farmed and captive human assets who are fenced and managed by lies given power to run with impunity.
Lies by definition undermine, distort and destroy communication and relationship while claiming function by attacking the selection and projection of sins accused in the other.
Hating the lie can thus pass off as if a love or fidelity to truth – claiming virtue as moral right set over the ‘othered’ by denying them a voice or hearing. Polarised conflicts are set against healing or resolving to underlying truth, such as to seek gain of function by deceits that ‘listen’ only to gather the means to better attack and ‘see’ only the ‘evidences’ that support the case for war.
Grievance and conflict are then protected and invoked to stamp the ‘meanings’ on the face of the present.

Language and meaning are currency by acceptance and usage – but true exchange is the nature of communication and relationship. False currencies buy and sell gain of fiction within arbitrary and competing ‘controls’.
To a significant extent humanity is contracting to a self-reinforcing paralysis of ‘control’ set in structures that are blind to life, love or joy of fulfillment in being – ie ‘Living!’ It’s systemic denial runs in the name of ‘virtues’ generated from guilting narratives of fear and threat.

Rather than say ‘you are being lied to’ (as if a great ‘truth’), why not look at the lies by which we take on guilt (gaslighting) in place of living true or integral responsibility at heart?
Guilted or masked fears run an ‘operating system’ for the mind that contracts to engage in gain of fiction as its overriding or prioritized function.

Everything comes home.
To a mind set in denial the reintegration of its own denied self may appear as attack, retribution and subjection to experience of being denied. While the framing judgements and definitions remain invisibly internalized as ‘normal’ or ‘reality’.

Look within (the living moment or movement of being) to regain communication and relationship in the Living.
Or persist in the magical projections of attempts to distort reality as the belief you can, and HAVE!

To be at war with reality can only be an error of the mind in its own thought.
What Is, Is.
But are we not heavily invested in and conditioned by our ‘stories’?

T.S.
T.S.
Mar 7, 2025 10:14 PM

this thing called democracy is the ruling of the mostly dumb crowd anyway, and since most of the so called first world has shown that 80 % are too dumb for life (they showed it by falling for the scam called co(n)vid) it is a moot point anyway if elections are “fair” or not.

Am I a cynic ? hell yes, that’s by now the only way to deal with this whole garbage.

Unfortunately the toxic goo was another downer, it didn’t kill all the sheeple and the world is still full of these totally useless dumbasses

Binra
Binra
Mar 8, 2025 11:37 AM
Reply to  T.S.

As above so below?
You could be ‘Them’ in the ideas and values you are teaching here.
Not that ‘They’ can ‘rule’ without a botnet mindshare of ‘dumped out’ conflict.
Garbage in; garbage out – is to the point that as you sow, you reap.
There is no thing ‘democracy’ but masking agenda runs vice as virtue, and then claim all is vice, but to be administered by the elite – not the ‘dumbass sheeple’.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:16 PM
Reply to  Binra

Yep and some of the biggest group thinkers are cults that pretend to be pro truth but ignore key truths in favor of their fantasies.
It can be hopium or obsession over the afterlife, it’s delusion.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Mar 8, 2025 12:57 PM
Reply to  T.S.

Hoping that the public vote sensibly is far less ridiculous than hoping that the ruling class act benevolently. Western nations are being deliberately destroyed right now, things couldn’t be much worse (though EU politicians are hell bent on WWIII, so…)

I would truly prefer to have a school dinner lady run my country than a politician. The leader doesn’t need to be expert at anything. They just need to be humane and choose decent policies, then delegate the how-tos to the machinery of government. Oh, and death penalty for any apparatchiks who refuse to obey.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:05 PM
Reply to  T.S.

A post oozing hate. Would globalist ruling elites regard us plebs any better than this?

unwashed
unwashed
Mar 15, 2025 7:45 AM
Reply to  T.S.

 💯 

Howard
Howard
Mar 7, 2025 9:25 PM

The word “democracy” is just the tip of the dictionary, so to speak. There’s something going on which is far more than simply “Doublespeak.” There is a wholesale abandonment of language itself – not just a few carefully chosen words which are useful for TPTB to switcho-chango.

It’s taken awhile for people to become so used to these fluid meanings that have gobbled up traditional meanings that they barely notice the flimflam. This is precisely what Cancel Culture is all about. While everyone was busy being distracted by cross dressers and trans people and the silly like, the real work of canceling the culture was being carried out deep in the library.

And while those of us old enough that our lives do not revolve around texting are horrified by what’s happening, the text generation – regardless their age – are perfectly oblivious to anything wrong going on. And they, I’m sorry to say, are the future.

Johnny
Johnny
Mar 7, 2025 10:40 PM
Reply to  Howard

We need a new word for them Howard.
WWWombies?
Xombies?
Fombies?
Walking Deadheads?
Tiktokians?

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Mar 7, 2025 11:11 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Useless eaters. they’ve already been tagged and targeted for elimination but don’t know it.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Mar 8, 2025 1:03 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

We don’t need to be ‘useful’ to justify our existence.

Never forget that it is the elites describing us as useless, and they mean we are useless TO THEM.

Well guess what. THEY are useless to us too. They should be viewed as disposable first, since they are parasites.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Mar 11, 2025 12:30 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

You’re right, we don’t.

But having to justify our existence is where we are heading if we don’t wake up.

Howard
Howard
Mar 8, 2025 8:54 PM
Reply to  Johnny

I have the perfect word for them: humans.

suzaloop
suzaloop
Mar 7, 2025 7:40 PM

Imagine the outrage in the media if Putin or Trump had suddenly cancelled elections they looked like losing because “they weren’t going to be fair”.

errr You sold the 2020 steal which was a fake as fuck alt media shilly to pretend donald lost.
Never seen just a fake outrage and stupidity regarding suppose selection which you and your types sold as was real thief of a election process.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 8, 2025 3:04 PM
Reply to  suzaloop

If you’re accusing Kit of ignoring the 2020 election steal, you’re very wrong. Off-Guardian was on top of that one from the beginning: https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/16/6-factors-which-point-to-a-rigged-election/

flirt
flirt
Mar 9, 2025 9:22 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Just read the link provided,
Kit actually thinks it was stolen.
So selling the fake narrative of rigged.
Poor trump got cheated. zzzzzz

Was not on top of anything just selling the fake binary narrative.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:14 PM
Reply to  flirt

I’m not a trump fan but it was stolen.
Same when they fucked Bernie Sanders in the primary.
Notice how neither party will bring up the fact that electronic voting machines are easily rigged without hacking? The companies that make them have full access to the source code and parameters.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Mar 7, 2025 7:17 PM

Great article…and so far, removed from the latest scourge of TDS hit pieces. Stay on track OG…!

sandy
sandy
Mar 7, 2025 6:32 PM

Off topic… kind of… but how does an elite create vindication of fascist authority thru manufactured mass hysteria? Well the LOCKDOWN was an archetypal model of this ideological warfare upon us, in an excellent overview by Joshua Stylman here…

https://stylman.substack.com/p/empty-gestures

sandy
sandy
Mar 7, 2025 5:34 PM

Apparently, the stakes have risen to fascism or authoritarianism or totalitarianism by any ruling group to put the brakes on commoners acting for a change in the ruling order. We do have a globally aware world with instant information access, informing the universal level of fraud and corruption that all the ruling classes are prosecuting regardless of public concern. The pendulum now swings right in Europe. Trump’s swing right has gone over to autocratic authoritarianism, just as the Liberal swing to dictating behaviors have done. Trump threatening an end to free speech and protest on campuses mirrors Liberal fines and police state controls against oppositional speech or protest in Europe. Censorship and punishment from either side for speech or protest is fascism. Mass arbitrary firings and policy dictates unvetted by democratic decision making is also fascist. So both sides are clearly illuminating themselves as fascist. Do they not see that the public sees this clearly and wants it to stop? In denial, as they say.

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 8, 2025 4:51 AM
Reply to  sandy

instant information access, informing the universal level of fraud and corruption
This is irrelevant as most people are functionally illiterate. They keep to gossip, the “latest” to buy, communal hatred or just survival. It could not be better for the rulers.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:09 PM
Reply to  sandy

Some polls suggest that US citizens are delighted with DOGE and want as many bureaucrats fired as possible. Leftists disagree, obviously. They worship big brother, so long as he’s their brother.

Howard
Howard
Mar 8, 2025 8:59 PM

Trump/Musk have convinced their followers that the bureaucrats ARE the infamous Deep State. By firing them en masse, the Trump Team can say they finally “Drained The Swamp.” Re-branding always works with those looking for easy answers to tough questions.

sandy
sandy
Mar 9, 2025 2:32 AM

“Some polls”? Do you believe in the results published by polls? “Leftists”? And what would those be? Liberals? No. You’re stuck in the name calling modality my friend, the false binary. The left, the real left, is anti-authoritarian. Those who believe in ruling over others without consent, are not Left. Even if they are John Zerzan, who is has self disclosed as a covid nazi. Unfortunately.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Mar 7, 2025 5:29 PM

I knew an aid worker who was in Romania at the back end of the 80’s. His job was to deliver food, medicine and toys to an orphaned children’s refuge. He stated a lot of the kids had deformities the likes of which he and other aid workers had never seen before. One child had skin like a crocodile he told me. All were malnourished and living in filthy conditions.
He witnessed hardened grown men break down in tears having to deal with it all.
Truly haunting stuff…

Today in the Russian media. It’s alleged Invading forces vaxed kids with unknown substances while in captured Russian territory recently.

The pattern is the same all across the world. Kill, kill, kill.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Mar 7, 2025 6:07 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

“My mommy always said there were no monsters – no real ones – but there are, aren’t there?”

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Mar 7, 2025 7:30 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Everywhere sadly, Jonathan.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Mar 8, 2025 3:18 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Newt!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Mar 7, 2025 4:35 PM

Its hilarious how many still think the judiciary will save them in the end.
All the nasty ppl one will all face justice!!
What was in Nuremburg 2!
Face it folks- its all rotten, from top to bottom.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Mar 7, 2025 4:36 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

*one day will all face justice

suzaloop
suzaloop
Mar 7, 2025 7:41 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Donate for lawyers grift to take it to freemason court,

Binra
Binra
Mar 8, 2025 11:53 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

What is being ‘saved’?
What is saved – and from what or for what?
‘Plastic meanings’ can run a mind-show of Self-evasion while loveliness unseen is all about you.

There is a recognition of the false as false – and if seeing through a false lens all that proceeds from it must share the error – however intensely invested with ‘solutions’.

The judgement of true from false is a gift of discernment within the living.
A mind set over and apart from life as if to be saved from feared truth by attack is blind by its own election. It worships vengeance as justice.

underground poet
underground poet
Mar 8, 2025 12:33 PM
Reply to  Binra

Nice word salad, but perhaps he didnt want to admit that the thing that was in danger of not being saved, were his teeth, or his hide, maybe he wanted you to figure out the meaning.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:11 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

i disagree; a fish rots from the head down, as the popular Russian saying goes. Russian plebs should know, after decades of communist horror and corruption.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:12 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Yes and these sociopathic judges will also be on trial for their subhuman immorality.
Ignorance or following orders is not an excuse.

Gladius
Gladius
Mar 7, 2025 4:15 PM

Lol Calin Georgescu is a lesson for the EU. If they had let the ” grey eminences” of the SRI (Romanian Intelligence Service) raised by the Securitate take care of compromising and dismantling him, the EU would not be in such a ridiculous position today. Instead, Ursula von de Lenyn and the gang of Eurocrats panicked and demanded CG’s elimination from the presidential race. It was all rushed and improvised, the Brussels’ fault. It was all poorly staged, kinda like the Trump shooting Trump in the ear scene. A world of dilettantes :))
p.s
You have heard that Napoleon Micron would like to bring French troops to Romania in case Russia moves further away from Ukraine. Many Romanians are demanding that the French be stationed at the Hungarian border and are also demanding that European states make a passage exclusively for the French. And the Brits to wait for them at Dunkirk with all the UK boats to evacuate them safely :))

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Mar 7, 2025 8:17 AM

The Left are experts at describing themselves with ‘positive’ words with totally different meanings: democratic, progressive, tolerant, etc.

Substitute “corruption” for “democracy”, and the picture becomes clearer.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Mar 7, 2025 4:37 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

The thief only comes to steal, kill and destroy and that includes the truth.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Mar 7, 2025 7:19 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

1984 had a lot to say about how doublespeak works…

Johnny
Johnny
Mar 7, 2025 6:58 AM

Not a problem for the two major parties in Australia.
They’ve just changed the rules to make it almost impossible for minor political parties to win a seat in the parliament.

All done underhandedly of course:

https://redfireonline.com/2025/03/02/no-to-the-labor-liberal-stitch-up/

tuah
tuah
Mar 7, 2025 8:45 AM
Reply to  Johnny

As George Galloway would say: “Two cheeks of the same arse”.

It would be a struggle to fit a cigarette paper between ALP and LNP policies.

Sandra Locke
Sandra Locke
Mar 7, 2025 8:50 AM
Reply to  tuah

Gore Vidal, I believe, used to say, “A bird of prey with two right wings.”

Lu1
Lu1
Mar 7, 2025 12:58 PM
Reply to  tuah

George’s perspective on the scamdemic:

Lets not lose grip on reality. The Coronavirus Death toll in the U.S. is enormous

He must’ve made a clean fortune from RT.

There’s a similar paper breadth between Vlad/Don etc etc and their handlers.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Mar 7, 2025 7:21 PM
Reply to  tuah

I would still like to try…with a baseball bat however!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 7, 2025 2:11 PM
Reply to  Johnny

But on the other hand we may set a lower limit. Other wise the idiocy never stops.

In some minor countries with only 5-10 mio inhabitants they have 22 different political parties engaged in eternal quarrels about trifles.

If you cant do it with 4-5 different political parties in the Parliament it already shows the ability of your shitty population……… 😆 .

ariel
ariel
Mar 7, 2025 4:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

‘Disability’

Johnny
Johnny
Mar 7, 2025 9:54 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Like Heinz soup:
57 varieties- one flavour.

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 7, 2025 5:17 AM

having elections does not mean you live in a democracy
The official gospel being hawked is that 1.4 billion people in China live under dictatorship or fascism (depending on the convenient verbiage), not that China has “democratised governance” (policy and administration) itself. For the bewildered destitute serfs of the Free World (TM), the divergence from reality will grow more stark in the coming years.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 7, 2025 5:24 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The reason why they won’t call China a ‘democracy’ is because they may need to go to war with them in future, and according to NYT know-it-all Thomas Friedman, it is impossible for two democracies ever to go to war against one another. Got it? 😂

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:10 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Friedman is just another fascist boomer.
Does anyone trust him anymore besides the brown shirts?

Hornbach
Hornbach
Mar 7, 2025 4:54 AM

Dear Kit,
The links in the article are to the good old bbc, how accurate could the information be ?
There are much more illegal things in this soup but they are not mentioned in the legacy media:

  • the elections should have been in September but they were suddenly moved to December (second round), very close to the date when the former president’s mandate was to expire (Dec.22) by “Emergency Rule” (this is the favourite Government method, instead of going through the Parliament)
  • there is no text in the Constitution that the Constitutional Court (9 people, placed there by political parties and by the President and who are not even judges) can disqualify a candidate or cancel elections in progress – and they did both
  • the secret documents issued by the intelligence services stating the foreign interference were just published, not fully or legally disclosed and they are notes, not evidences
  • the Constitution says that the President can have maximum 2 mandates, of maximum 5 years each and that the mandate can only be extended in case of war or calamity, voted by the Parliament. The same Constitutional Court extended ilegally the former President’s mandate and from that position he appointed the new Prime Minister (the same as before). When the opposition party started the impeachment procedure and was about to be voted, the former President resigned, his place taken by the Senate leader, carefully prepared (promoted as Party leader less than a month before, without internal elections)
  • The Constitutional Court is the only institution without possibility of appeal so no real Court of law can overturn its decisions or indict its members
  • Although the censorship was already very tough, the Government (by Emergency Rule, of course) is preparing something tougher, maybe above the recent UK on-line laws
  • All the other candidates (new elections will be in May) have the same message : “I am the only one who can beat that guy”. That guy might be prevented to run, there are kafkian legal actions involving members of the French Foreign Legion, retired generals (one of them 101 years old) and all that crazy stuff

I don’t usually have such long posts, I thought that a bit of detail on this matter would be relevant. They are writing now the handbook and perhaps many pages from it will be used in other countries.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 4:30 AM

Imagine 38 million people holding a referendum and voting (overwhelmingly) to form a sovereign state; and doing so without any violence. Then, a few years later, that state decides to give up one of the largest stockpiles of nuclear weapons; and all it asks is for its existing borders to be recognised and respected. Imagine a world where, in order to have respected borders, we don’t need to spend 5% of GDP on the military or to have nuclear weapons. I wonder if you can?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

As I said, bring it on!

Sandra Locke
Sandra Locke
Mar 7, 2025 8:54 AM

I don’t know the exact percentage, but I believe the military share of the US budget is quite a lot bigger than 5%. If the British military share is only 5%, well, that sounds pretty good, actually.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 9:19 AM
Reply to  Sandra Locke

There’s not many at 5% or above:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

I doubt European spending will get that high. Maybe it will reach 3.5% – the current US level. But we will then have a US-like MIC – and sometime later it will go and find wars to fight.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 9, 2025 3:51 AM

If the only hammer you have is a tool, then you need also an umbrella….ehh?

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 8, 2025 5:04 AM
Reply to  Sandra Locke

The US military allocation does not include nuclear armaments and development, satellites, military aid, subversion (CIA, NED, killing by drone), etc. The untouchable military has never passed an audit. The cumulative sum of “missing” or misspent money is $21 trillion [Mark Skidmore & Catherine Fitts 2017], though there was an attempt to involve HHS in this.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Mar 7, 2025 6:17 PM

Ukraine NEVER had nukes.
The USSR did, and had them stationed in a place that they later gave away and was named as Ukraine.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 9:16 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

By the same logic, NEITHER did Russia!

Scoobis
Scoobis
Mar 7, 2025 7:22 PM

Channeling Lennon out of your ass I see…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 9:17 PM
Reply to  Scoobis

It’s called “irony”!

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:17 PM

Ukrainians took their chance to vote for statehood, but they had no chance of stopping the CIA take-over and the subsequent horror.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 8, 2025 10:18 PM

You’re just another wing of Putinista crap!

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:09 PM

Wow the people here are total morons for downvoting you.
Imagine these cunts dislike the idea of world peace.
Crack heads

MartinU
MartinU
Mar 7, 2025 3:59 AM

David Dimbleby is entirely correct. Democracy is not just holding elections but making sure that the ‘right’ people win them. This explains why Russia, for example, is a totalitarian state suffering from the iron rule of a ruthless dictator while Ukraine is a model of democracy.

This game has actually been going on for decades. Its just that only recently has it been applied so close to home. The recent problem has been that government policy is actively working against the interests of the people in Europe and propaganda is failing to fully paper over the cracks. This has caused the rise of these ‘populist’ parties. In the old days this vote would often go to truly socialist (or even communist) parties but they would only be allowed token representation in the legislatures at best (“to show that democracy works”) and would never be allowed near government unless they were guaranteed to behave themselves. These new, supposedly right wing, parties can’t be corralled because of their ideology — its supposed to be that of the ruling elite — so they’re having to be suppressed by rather more open means.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 7, 2025 5:30 PM
Reply to  MartinU

These new, supposedly right wing, parties can’t be corralled because of their ideology — its supposed to be that of the ruling elite — so they’re having to be suppressed by rather more open means.

Wait a minute: if these parties are really espousing the ideology of the ruling elite, then why would the ruling elite be suppressing them?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Mar 8, 2025 3:32 PM
Reply to  MartinU

Ruling elite ideology is deeply globalist, multiculturalist and progressive; notoriously, western leaders have abandoned national sovereignty, identity and history. They have outlawed free speech and the rights of their own dissenting citizens. No-one can protest infinity immigration or Gaza etc without fear of retribution. Such ideology ruins democracy and is opposed by populists, who simply say ‘my nation and culture first’, and fuck the internationalist banksters and warmongers. They are winning elections, so the ruling elites are becoming authoritarian, anti-democratic tyrants to save their power and control. See Romania for the current example.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:07 PM
Reply to  MartinU

Putin is also bullshit.
Remember what they did to their people during covid.
Fuck all politicians

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Mar 7, 2025 2:56 AM

The idiots who run the EU, the UK, and the USA regard us pissants as the idiots.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Mar 7, 2025 3:07 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Hmmm. From Wikipedia

On Christmas Day, 25 December 1989, the Ceaușescus were tried before a court convened in a small room on orders of the National Salvation Front, Romania’s provisional government. They faced charges including illegal gathering of wealth and genocide. Ceaușescu repeatedly denied the court’s authority to try him, and asserted he was still legally the President of Romania. At the end of the trial, the Ceaușescus were found guilty and sentenced to death. A soldier standing guard in the proceedings was ordered to take the Ceaușescus outside one by one and shoot them, but the Ceaușescus demanded to die together. The soldiers agreed to this and began to tie their hands behind their backs, which the Ceaușescus protested against, but were powerless to prevent.

The Ceaușescus were executed by a group of soldiers: Captain Ionel Boeru, Sergeant-Major Georghin Octavian and Dorin-Marian Cîrlan,[66] and five other non-commissioned officers who were recruited from twenty volunteers. Before his sentence was carried out, Nicolae Ceaușescu sang “The Internationale” whilst being led towards the wall. The firing squad began shooting as soon as the two were in their positions up against the wall.[67]
Later that day, the execution was also shown on Romanian television.[68] The hasty show trial and the images of the executed Ceaușescus were videotaped and the footage released in numerous Western countries two days after the execution.

Hornbach
Hornbach
Mar 7, 2025 11:40 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

For anyone watching that trial it is clear that it was a travesty : the so called barrister defending them was actually prosecuting. Execution on Christmas day, what a shame. After 35 years there are no clear answers about how and who did what those days (there were many dead people apparently shot by invisible terrorists)

Sapas
Sapas
Mar 7, 2025 3:04 PM
Reply to  Hornbach

The answers are very clear: the Soviets did it with approval from their then-partners the Americans, who took advantage of the fact that all world’s eyes were on Romanian ‘revolution’ so they could quietly invade Panama. Check the dates and you’ll see a stunning coincidence between the timing of the two events in late December 1989.

Hornbach
Hornbach
Mar 8, 2025 6:22 AM
Reply to  Sapas

Ok, foreign agents no doubt, but it is also about the locals who helped out. If the Panama deal was done and nobody noticed, why the secrecy about it 35 years after? This secrecy allowed the unhealthy development of the country and led to the democratic dictatorship of today

Sapas
Sapas
Mar 8, 2025 2:50 PM
Reply to  Hornbach

No doubt that the locals helped out. I was one of them. But the invisible terrorists were actually Soviet agents. In regards to its secrecy, I would say things are quite similar to 9/11. There are people who have benefited big time from the ‘revolution’ but they would probably be in trouble if that was called what it actually was: a coup de’etat.
You were right, the secrecy around those events was one of the causes that allowed the unhealthy development of the country. Just as it’s been with 9/11 for US.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 7, 2025 6:58 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Its because we ARE the idiots. They just see us as what we are. Nothing wrong with that.
They are selected among us, the idiots!
Those who run EU,UK,USA are yr neighbours next door my dear friend.

les online
les online
Mar 7, 2025 1:26 AM

Rumour: President Trump’s gonna take a few days off next
weekend as some seer has advised him “Beware The Ides
of March.” (Seems The Ides are Debt Settling Days)…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 7, 2025 2:19 PM
Reply to  les online

I am against that Politicians take “days off”.
Politicians should be on work 8 hrs/day/6 days/week like normal people do it, and no Holidays because they get their Hollidays by travelling around the world on 1st class trains and 1’st class airplanes paid by my taxes!

This is my opinion, and I have the right to have my free speech and my opinion!

Jos
Jos
Mar 9, 2025 8:59 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I wish they’d all take long, unpaid leave and we could get someone to run our countries that usually cleans the toilets. They’d do a better (and quite similar) job.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 9, 2025 11:32 AM
Reply to  Jos

Agree. I dont think we even would notice.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:07 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

We don’t need politicians anymore …
Direct democracy is the solution.

antonym
antonym
Mar 7, 2025 12:43 AM

The European Court of Human Rights birthed  in 1959 was the first anti-nationalist woke creature. It was favoring the rights of any others above those of Europeans. Post WWII self hate, Adolf’s grand son, enthusiastically adopted by the Left and naive Right, apart from ideologically self diminishing Christians.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 7, 2025 12:57 AM
Reply to  antonym

These rights maybe hollowed out today, but at that time and until 1990 they actually did a difference in many countries customized to torture and other less affaire activities.

Maybe UN Human Rights did the General, and Euro Rights did the secondary. So you are maybe right they are a liberal/Trotsky laughing stock today, but they did their time!

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Mar 7, 2025 12:08 AM

I believe the operative Sprachregelung here is “LIBERAL democracy” (four legs good) vs “populism” and “demagoguery” (two legs bad)

true democrats have to protect the people from foolishly choosing what they actually want

if not through rigging, then through lawfare, the weapon par excellence of the professional class that makes up the quasi entirety of legislators and officials in these model liberal democracies, to the complete exclusion of the overwhelming majority of citizens who did not graduate from elite educational institutions

like with Trump and Marine Le Pen, but also Navalny in Russia, the overlords of democracy have chosen to subject the Romanian candidate to an exemplary humiliation, not casting him in the role of a political opponent, but rather attempting to delegitimize him as a mere criminal

presumably this was judged to be a response that would generate more resonance internationally than just allowing his campaign to go down in defeat as a result of electoral manipulation, the tactic that was used only a few months before in neighboring Moldova, but evidently wasn’t sufficiently successful then in dissuading future challengers like this Georgescu

it’s the cartelization of Western media in the hands of a half dozen or so corporations controlled by a group who obviously can’t be called “oligarchs”, though they differ in no way whatsoever from those sinister figures from UNdemocratic countries that exploit apps for sharing silly videos to tamper with the minds of our voters, it’s this cartelization that enables the crucial Sprachregelungen to rule the space of tolerated discussion

les online
les online
Mar 6, 2025 11:39 PM

“The Russians Are Coming ! The Russians Are Coming !” hammer out The Drums of War…
The deprivations the UK common folk bore stoically during The War Against The First
Hitler was ‘rewarded’ by the implementation of (some of) the recommendations of the
1942 Beveridge Report, the template for the post-WW2 UK ‘Welfare State’…
Now a Second Hitler threatens Democracy, and, according to the Press, The War to
Defend Democracy from The Russians, requires “trimming of The Welfare State.” …
Sacrifices have to be made ! Some will have to make the sacrifice with their bodies,
others will have to sacrifice their pensions…

Let’s put it another way: Politicians are using the trumped-up threat “The Russians Are
Coming !” as cover story for eroding what’s left of the UK ‘Welfare State’…

So, one war is the reason to giveth, another the reason to taketh it back…

(Age pensioners were deprived of the Winter Fuel Allowance, the money was needed to
pay down the interest owing on government borrowings of Private Loans… Pensions
must be ‘surrendered’ to pay the Banks and War industry corporations War to Defend
Democracy… It wasnt ’til around 2015 that the UK finally paid off the Lend-Lease debt it
ran up with the USA for weapons for War Against the First Hitler – So: “Here We Go, Again !!”)…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 6, 2025 10:10 PM

And imagine the outrage if the world’s leading media organisations had participated in an anti-democratic, war-mongering libel – and that had contributed to a million deaths and potentially the triggering of WWIII? As I’ve been saying for some time now, I vote for the bang over the whimper; so bring it on!

BBC Newsnight
Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine: NEWSNIGHT
Feb 28, 2014
BBC Newsnight’s Gabriel Gatehouse investigates the links between the new Ukrainian government and Neo-nazis

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Mar 7, 2025 1:03 AM

This was in 2014. Trump cleaned these Nazis out in his first term. Today we have peace
 😇 .

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 4:13 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

As with many countries, the organic Nazis in Ukraine were a tiny, ineffectual minority. Like Charlottesville and Ohio, the uniformed “Nazis” on display were a psyop; and the “Nazis” fighting in the Donbas were paid for mercenaries. The money coming from the Kremlin and channelled through Kolomoisky (see post below).

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 7, 2025 5:36 PM

Yup. In Ukraine (as elsewhere), the real danger is not a bunch of larping knuckle-dragging ‘nazis’, but the Khazars who actually run the place.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 7, 2025 9:24 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Zelensky is dealing with it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
Revocation of Ukrainian citizenship and subsequent sanctions
On 28 July 2022, Zelenskyy appeared to confirm the authenticity of an 18 July presidential decree published online by opposition MP Serhiy Vlasenko[155] that strips Ukrainian citizenship from Kolomoyskyi and nine others,[156] including Vadim Rabinovich[156] and both Hennadiy Korban, former deputy governor of Dnipropetrovsk under Kolomoyskyi (and since 24 February 2022, head of the Dnipro Territorial Defence).[157] Although dual citizenship is prohibited under Ukrainian law, all three held Israeli passports.[158] Kolomoyskyi, who additionally holds a Cypriot passport, reportedly quipped that while Ukrainian law prohibits dual citizenship, it says nothing about triple citizenship.[138]

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:06 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Trump cleaned them out? You’re smoking crack

The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
Mar 6, 2025 9:49 PM

I wonder what the likely winner of the Romanian election’s attitude was to this largest-ever base NATO is planning for the country? He wouldn’t have been against it, would he?….

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 6, 2025 11:33 PM

Nato will continue. However, after the US has been balkanised into East Coast, West Coast, Canadian Acquisitions, and Trumpania, the latter will be excluded!

Hornbach
Hornbach
Mar 7, 2025 4:09 AM

There is a clear separation in the candidate’s discourse between NATO and USA. If it’s a NATO base without USA (see the latest declarations by President Trump) then he would probably be against it. Not sure how would that work but hey, it’s his idea.

Johnny
Johnny
Mar 6, 2025 9:34 PM

First rule of a ‘democracy’:

Never hold an election until you’re certain of the result.

Jos
Jos
Mar 9, 2025 9:02 AM
Reply to  Johnny

But does the result even matter if they’re pushing the same agenda?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 6, 2025 9:26 PM

Imagine the outrage in the media if Putin or Trump had suddenly cancelled elections they looked like losing because “they weren’t going to be fair”.

Or if they interfered in the democratic processes of another country?

https://genius.com/Vladimir-putin-press-conference-on-the-situation-in-ukraine-annotated
Press conference on the situation in Ukraine
President Vladimir Putin of Russia takes questions from the Russian media on March 3, 2014, following Russian military action in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula.
Released: March 4, 2014

For example, Mr Kolomoisky was appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. This is a unique crook. He even managed to cheat our oligarch Roman Abramovich two or three years ago. Scammed him, as our intellectuals like to say. They signed some deal, Abramovich transferred several billion dollars, while this guy never delivered and pocketed the money. When I asked him [Abramovich]: “Why did you do it?” he said: “I never thought this was possible.” I do not know, by the way, if he ever got his money back and if the deal was closed. But this really did happen a couple of years ago. And now this crook is appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. No wonder the people are dissatisfied. They were dissatisfied and will remain so if those who refer to themselves the legitimate authorities continue in the same fashion.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/neo-nazi-azov-battalion-is-a-threat-from-within
Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion is a threat from within
Apr 17, 2022

On 13 Apr 2014, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Arsen Avakov, issued a ruling sanctioning the set-up of new paramilitary forces of up to 12,000 people. The Azov Battalion was formed on 05 May 2014 at Berdinsk by a white nationalist. This outfit was regulated by the Ministry of Interior of Ukraine and branded as ‘Special Tasks Patrol Police’. Initially, it was funded independently, and one of the leading financiers was a Jewish-Ukrainian billionaire and oligarch, Igor Kolomoyskyi. Many political party members of the ‘Patriot Party’ of Ukraine joined this organization.

les online
les online
Mar 6, 2025 9:04 PM

Democracy aint Natural. Name one other species that elects who’s
gonna be their boss, making up rules about what they cant do… It’s
all blood-red in toofs and clause Out There…
At least hoomins have invented Democracy to Soften The Blows…

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Mar 6, 2025 11:11 PM
Reply to  les online

. .. ..And channel the money.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Mar 7, 2025 6:30 PM
Reply to  les online

Animals vote with their decision of whether to fight to be leader of the pack. Maybe we should do the same?

colintheiltrate
colintheiltrate
Mar 6, 2025 8:51 PM

i thought that title went to ukriane

les online
les online
Mar 6, 2025 8:44 PM

Many Victorian-era women were opposed to the Suffragettes push for Votes For
Women. It wasnt simply because they thought women shouldnt sully themselves
participating in the political process; they knew who the power behind the throne
were, so they said ‘let the men play their games.’
We have never had Democracy, we’ve only ever had Limited Democracy…
Even though Limited Democracy has slowly been expanded from the few to the
many, giving the vote to 16 year olds, or even younger persons, it’s still Limited Democracy – and limited to voting only…
And if Democracy simply means having a Vote, then Democracy had been vacated
of its meaning ‘a way, way, long time ago’…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 6, 2025 8:26 PM

Why not just think of it as a “de-nazification”?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7Pb6GjtOwpY

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 6, 2025 8:12 PM

Imagine the outrage in the media if Putin or Trump had suddenly cancelled elections they looked like losing because “they weren’t going to be fair”.

Imagine That!

Zourabichvili became the last popularly elected president

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome_Zourabichvili
Salomé Nino Zourabichvili[3][b][c] (born 18 March 1952) is a French-born Georgian politician and former diplomat who served as the fifth president of Georgia from 2018 to 2024[d] – the first female president in the country’s history.[e] As a result of the constitutional amendments that came into effect in 2024, Zourabichvili became the last popularly elected president; under the new constitutional rules, moving forward Georgian presidents are to be elected indirectly by a parliamentary college of electors.

Rob
Rob
Mar 15, 2025 6:05 PM

Don’t understand why the morons downvoted this.
Are they pro fascist?

October
October
Mar 6, 2025 8:12 PM

They have been convinced that ‘democracy’ is determined by the outcome. Believing it is determined by the process is no longer tolerated.

So if the ‘right’ people win, that is democracy. Even if that outcome is achieved through a very flawed process.

It’s part of the inability to reason, which we see more and more of every day. Very conveniently for the powerful.

Rat
Rat
Mar 6, 2025 8:04 PM

On the other paw, there is a trend towards expanding voting «rights» — letting recent immigrants vote in local elections, lowering voting age to 16 etc.; soon they’re going to let us rats vote, but those rights will be worth as much as Soviet elections (which were purely ceremonial).

Renn
Renn
Mar 7, 2025 10:52 AM
Reply to  Rat

Expanding voting rights is also a form of ideological steering, because the “liberal” establishment sees “recent immigrants” and “people between the ages of 16 and 18” as being likely to vote for them. This isn’t always necessarily the case – recent elections, e.g. in the U.S. and Germany, show a surge in the youth vote for “populist” candidates, though many of them still vote for “liberals” – but the “liberals” see this as something that will help them skew elections in their favour, allowing them to keep up the pretence of “democracy” a little longer.