The digital ruble should be used for control: Refreshing honesty from senior Russian lawmaker
The ability to limit how digital rubles can be spent creates "new opportunities" for the government, according to State Duma Deputy Anatoly Aksakov
Riley Waggaman
Restrictions on how digital rubles can be spent will be gradually introduced after the Bank of Russia’s CBDC enters mass circulation, Anatoly Aksakov, head of the State Duma Committee on Financial Markets, told Rossiyskaya Gazeta in an interview.
The senior lawmaker revealed that the Russian government was already discussing “possible usage scenarios” for the digital ruble, which can be programmed to limit or prohibit certain kinds of purchases.
As an example, Aksakov proposed using the digital ruble to issue maternity capital and child benefits so that these funds “can’t be spent on alcohol and cigarettes”.
Such restrictions would be “justified and necessary” since “social support measures would clearly become more effective”, Aksakov explained.
The lawmaker continued:
This applies to social payments and other forms of government spending. In my opinion, the benefits in this case outweigh the arguments that it is wrong to issue both free and non-free digital rubles at the same time. Control is needed; there is no other way.”
Russian citizens will also be able to make use of the digital ruble’s programmability, the Duma Deputy said.
Not only the state will be able to use the new opportunities, but also the people themselves. When parents give their child money for school expenses, they want him to buy himself a lunch, not a pack of cigarettes or something worse. Or spend it all on video games, or give it to scammers. In the future, they will be able to establish such restrictions.”
Aksakov predicted that “balanced decisions” about control measures would be “gradually” implemented once the digital ruble enters mass circulation.
However, the Bank of Russia has repeatedly denied that such “balanced decisions” are even being considered, insisting that “the choice of which form of ruble [cash, non-cash, or digital] to use will remain with the citizens” and “you can spend your digital rubles as you see fit.”
The Bank of Russia also dismissed as a “myth” the claim that social payments will be issued exclusively in digital rubles.
The Bank of Russia debunks a “myth” about the digital ruble. source: cbr.ru
Aksakov’s comments also undermine the claim that digital rubles can be freely converted into cash or non-cash rubles.
Russians have been reassured that they can transfer digital rubles from a digital wallet into a bank account, and then withdraw these funds as cash. But how can digital rubles programmed to prohibit certain purchases be converted into cash? And if “colored” or “non-free” digital rubles can simply be transferred to a bank account and withdrawn at an ATM, what is the point of trying to control how they are spent in the first place?
To summarize:
- Will the digital ruble be mandatory in order to receive certain forms of social payments? According to Aksakov, yes.
- Will restrictions be placed on how these funds can be used? According to Aksakov, yes (“gradually” and in a “balanced” way).
- Will digital rubles be freely convertible into cash or non-cash rubles? Only the “free” kind, apparently.
Perhaps this is why Vedomosti wrote in December 2021:
Blockchain consultant and cryptocurrency researcher Denis Smirnov is critical of the idea of the Central Bank: “For people, the introduction of the digital ruble is the realization of the most terrible scenarios described by science fiction writers in dystopias.” According to the expert, with the advent of the digital ruble, absolute transparency will reign in the field of personal finance, which means that the human right to privacy will be under attack.
In July 2024, Russian President Vladimir Putin called for the “full-scale implementation” of the digital ruble, which became Russia’s third form of legal currency in 2023.
Originally slated for launch this summer, the Bank of Russia’s CBDC is expected to enter circulation at the start of 2026.
Riley Waggaman is an American writer and journalist who has lived in Russia for close to a decade. He has contributed to many websites, including Anti-Empire, Russian Faith, Brownstone Institute, Unlimited Hangout, and Geopolitics & Empire. He worked for Press TV, Russia Insider, and RT before going solo. You can subscribe to his Substack here, or follow him on twitter or Telegram.
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The usual deflection. Bang on Russia! Bang on some European country that must be left leaning.
Dont mention USA in what is happening over there.
Go out and get some trutti frutti flirt. https://youtu.be/AtFxryGZ3NE .
CBDCs reflect the absurdity of human behavior, as we seem to always come up with ‘new’ and ‘effective’ ways to do ordinary things that, while offering the illusion of convenience, always bring about an equal amount of complication and risks.
Imagine how the Al Capones of this new digital age will have a field day hacking their way through this ‘impenetrable’ system of financial control? Could entire nations’ fiscal reserves be siphoned off to ghostly elusive accounts somewhere out in the VR verse? Could peoples’ lifetime savings disappear in the blink of an eye during directed energy beams or EMP attacks, solar storms or other cataclysmic events? If history is any lesson…
There may hopefully still be isolated natural reserves where one can escape to–like in Huxley’s BNW, but what if those become too crowded and contested. Then what? Survival of the fittest in the concrete jungle?
Stalin secured that no Russian could escape communism EVER.
Digital Ruble or Siberia………………LOL! Siberian-winter-landscape-wide-840×525.jpg
Is it me or the 500 billion Id grid star gate and 48 hour vaccines got lost somewhere.
I can assure you we all will remember the 500 billion and come back to them again again and again.
Many eons ago me thinks it was Erik Holder receiving some questions about the state of the economy and MMT(Modern Monetary Theory) in its form would initially kill the dollar. He replied yes. no follow up just total admission that MMT would destroy the dollar. Enter the Trump regime and states categorically treasury will be investing into crypto currencies and mentioned Bitcoin and Rothschild crypto Etherium. That basically was the nail in the coffin of the Fiat USA dollar.
Post Scriptum: The dying days of this era.
Docius in Fondo: Here comes the post modern end and the beginning of the modern middle ages DIGITAL PONOPTICON
It’s all true that primary aim of digital currencies (DC) is individual control over citizenry and their political activities.
Although such targeting of individual access to money is already widely spread in EU, Canada and to certain degree in US via collusions with deep state courts and administrative powers. Property forfeiture (and money) rules are blatant examples of it.
However, there are many practical even macroeconomic, socioeconomic or rule of law reasons for digital currency that are as attractive to de facto all authoritarian rulers even operating under guise of phony democracy.
First, all digital currencies’ transactions are transparent and hence “unauthorized” fraud and corruption are easy detectable and culprits quickly identifiable needs be for power struggle purposes or similar. Also DC would infringe on inherent to any government officials outright looting of national treasury with possibility of 100% claw back of such illegal gains. That the main reason for elites’ reluctance and opting for parallel fiat system of financial apartheid.
Under DC one can say I spent money I stole and don’t know where it is. Robbing banks under DC would be been impossible as any transaction chain could be prevented or reversed. Such a mechanism doesn’t exist within Bitcoin infrastructure.
Macroeconomic control that DC aims to embark upon is quite compelling as well. It’s a perfect tool for example to manipulate economic inflation rates by surgically limiting demand in certain economic bottlenecks or by preventing hoarding of commodities as those are two leading factors of managing inflation. It makes speculation much more difficult and risky.
Also, DC allows for strict and precise control of sources and drivers of classic monetary inflation. In short it’s highly desired tool for implementation of economic and financial policies of the state without much of messy legal and politically difficult budgetary interventions that often fail.
Author’s concerns about programmatic control of individual spending based of social policies like prohibition of drugs alcohol or sin industries is highly warranted as DC seems to be a perfect tool for enforcing them. But in the same token it may prevent implementation of corporate policies like mergers or capital expenditures and investment expansions in undesired by government directions. Full socioeconomic impact of DC is impossible to project at this point.
It’s worth to note that all the liberty killing evils of DC are currently implemented within existing monetary and financial system but their inefficiencies de facto result in overall huge costs and failure rates that in large part impede and nullify the cumulative impact.
The DC de facto hands over all control to central bankers who already wield enormous power by controlling fiat money. DC is however immediate and surgical with no lag or broad brush and that introduces completely new quality that is difficult to impossible to fully fathom.
For software, billionaires paid hackers to disrupt, then sold us anti-virus and imposed greater control. For petty theft or waste, DC is selling us similar control. Will this have any effect on large-scale theft, especially through foreign partners? Would such major theft exist if there were no “offshore” banks?
Reply pending.
But this is also the impression, that DC is a wonderful tool for the upper Elite no matter the consequences for average Joe.
The Elite says as during millennium that they will use this tool for the good, but our experience during the same period says wars, misery, massacres, poverty for the many, suffering, power fights, diminishing more of our human qualities.
Does RW ever copy and paste about else but Russia bashing. Here is an example of very long termed Moscow based foreign journalist who on occasion criticises the Russian Federation but takes a more balanced approach.
https://johnhelmer.net/who-comes-up-trumps-the-president-of-peace-or-the-president-of-war/
You write about your concern for Russia, and refer to a link about Trump??? Saying you want the appearance of Russia to be ‘balanced’ or ‘equal’ in the media?
I see RW referring to only facts in his articles. This is what I need to make my own conclusions.
On the contrary I see John Helmer telling people about his personal political views of Russia and surroundings. Sometimes he has something of use, some other times not.
” I see RW only referring to facts. ” Notice no original sources!
in general all his articles are based on factual circumstances and actions.
I have read quite a few of RW’s articles because he is one of the few who in my opinion has no bias other than a sarcastic comment on the liberal hypocrisy in power circles, also in Russia.
Therefore I can claim a general impression, like you do just with an opposite view..
“ in general all his articles are based on …” Er no, he was caught short on his
attempt to smear people, he was caught short on a survey based on very limited numbers and he generally uses quotes and passages from various snippets of articles ( copy and paste) without usually giving direct access to all the copying and pasting he conducts.
You can pick up a MSM “ newspaper “ and find these tactics used time after time.
“ ..no other bias..” How many articles has RW published directly from the line of contact such as Eva Bartlett, Patrick Lancaster and others who have the courage to go there and report.
Perhaps you can reproduce a few.
He seldom, if ever, looks at the long term historical analysis of the struggle by the West to Balkanise Russia.
Again, if you have any articles/ essays by him to the contrary, please produce them.
Moreover, I have yet to see any articles/ essays comparing Russia pre Putin to post Putin, in regards to : economics, social/ religious society in general, militarily etc from RW if you have access to them, please produce them.
I look to forward to your response. PS when was the last time RW produced an “ article “ which wasn’t bashing Russia?
First, I do as a thing you mention, also cross check my information.
It means if my opinion after reading many facts about Sber bank Board, Moscow Mayor, St. Petersborg Mayor, in RT, Sputnik, Tass, Western MSM and Alternative media, WEF, is that the Liberal agenda is high among the Elite in Russia, I do get this confirmed when I read RW’s articles.
I have been among the first to promote Putin’s speeches and Interviews where he says a lot of true factual things related to the past, history, Treaties, promises, and the situation today.
But talk is talk. We can first see if there is a relation between word and action if we go out in the real world and check it.
RW is much younger than us. Maybe he is focused on the situation right now for him and his neighbours.
I just see many of the articles in RT and Tass m.m. in the past were more the Russian inferiority complex toward West, than actual opposition, while RW actually come up with facts about the situation.
RW’s description about the horny adaption to the DC in the Russian Central Bank and the ordinary Russian citizen’s struggle to get rid or along with it, I dont see described many other places.
At the moment no, but when I enter into this area in the short future, I will give a couple of RW links here on this site. Assuming you continue here for a period. All the best.
I asked you to produce a RW article which wasn’t Russian bashing. Evidently, you can’t because he only attacks Russia. Whereas other alternative Media, some of whom have been based in Russia far longer than RW, produce a balance of articles about Russia.
From the time of probably Peter the Great Russia has had a contingent who looked West. Indeed, at one time the court language was French. However, numerous attempts to destroy Russia has enlightened many to the true intentions of the West a point which alludes RW in his ” articles”.
Unfortunately, there is rarely if ever a balance of articles on this site about Russia.
The link is even worse. Complete babble and statistic graph bs. You have had better days Brian.
” The link is..” Hmm, you are not very adept either with links or in depth reading.
I suppose when one is accustomed to RW’s Paste and Post articles with seldom any orginal links, it should not be a surprise !
The links are there to look at. Two stupid statistic graphs. No reason to go into details about how and which grade of stupidity. They are ridiculous.
Graph 01: “Trump Team related stock prices down, related to Moscow stock prices up.”,
Graph 02: “US arm factories down in stock prices, only because of Trump”.
Muah, muah, muah.
Confirming my first comment was right!
If you and Helmer had more arms you would write for more wars.
It’s noticeable you didn’t quote directly from the article in relation to the graphs so I will help you out.
“Source: https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/charts?s=TSLA:NSQ
The US stock market has also been sceptical that the Trump Administration will generate increased defence spending, either at home in the Pentagon budget or in exports to the NATO allies promising to rearm and spend more on procuring US weapons.
The chart shows that after speculative drift upward immediately after the Inauguration, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman
have fallen in share price. The only consistent upward movement is by RTX (formerly Raytheon), which produces fighter aircraft, anti-aircraft defence systems, ground and sea combat weapons. “
Unfortunately, for you, ad hominem and vacuous phrases is no substitute for analysis. You really must do better than that !
I said I would not go into details on these graphs because these graphs were too stupid to spend time on a deeper discussion, and this is still my opinion after reading your latest defence for US defence.
Analysis? Its hot air all over the place.
Yes, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
As Mr Putin always and consistently says, ” … Our western partners and colleagues… ”
He’s been telling us all along that other than a bit of competition among franchisees/members; it’s still one franchise/club.
Or maybe it’s simply that Russia (and even China ferchrissakes) have adults in charge who remember how to be reasonable and do diplomacy.
Looks like the number of home distilleries will be on the rise in Russia …. take that baby food, that healthy fruit and turn it into vodka.
Its worse. They can program your social security number and link it to your plastic card.
So everytime you wanna buy the wrong thing the machine will reject your card.
Same if you get rebel they just close yr card and its rejected everywhere. On top there is all the lies and excuses.
They dont have to give the right explanation. They can just claim the system was down or the error in the system was/is your fault.
I have met this on a small scale on a return bottle machine. Bottle put in and swallowed, but the machine dont count it.
On top it tells you it was yr fault because you did it too quick after the previous. You cant do a shit.
Your ID and money card can be hacked by any insider who can claim you did what he/she did. Its a manipulation tool.
You can’t fix social problems with prohibitions and punitive measures.
“It always gets worse before it gets worser” … (anon)
If a “solution” is frantically looking for a problem to fix, then you are being sold a lie. Every time. No matter the assurances given.
CBDC may be nice at first, because it can be. Later it will be used to abuse us… because it can be.
The nice phase is purely to make us accept it and eradicate real money. (Oops, I mean cash, but it’s more real, tangible, than CBDC.)
Absolutely.
If you want people to adopt something, make it convenient, fun, attractive, popular, etc rather than onerous, difficult, etc.
That’s why it’s called a ‘honey trap’ and not a ‘stinks of shit’ trap.
people will find a way around it they always do and the Russian people have plenty of practice from Russia’s communist days
It will be a mess.
Anyone believe the Bitcoin jump to 105,000 was a coincidence, aside from an obvious “pump & dump”…
Bitcoin is at 80 now. It looks like a shoulder-head-shoulder formation. Meaning Bitcoin could end between 20-40 again……………….LOL.
Digital currency is directly tied to digital ID, which is directly tied to the 15-minute digital city (prison) you will be assigned to….
As long as my government pay me digital money, I am in!
Dude…?
(sarc) for the disabled.
It is NOT my government or my country, it is their government or their country. “Their” being the ones with the deep enough pockets to buy their way.
Here are a couple of other examples of people who find programmable currency a good idea, this time from Norway.
Bad links. None of VIPs says anything good about it, only that DC is good for the Elite.
Can we get a Sheeple, Libtard or a Commie to explain why they think its a good idea?
The examples are not meant to provide arguments in favour of DC, but to show how some people support DC with arguments that do not promise anything good.
Programmable digital “money” exist already in many countries and for many years now. They are used for various reasons : meal / lunch tickets, holiday / gift cards, social security “help” from the government to the very poor etc.
I see a problem if ALL the “money” would be like that and we have to fight to prevent it from happening.
All of the reasonable uses are pretexts.
Like crying “protect the children” as justification for removing Internet anonymity.
Even IF CBDC was introduced by an honourable government for noble reasons, the next government, or one that followed, would weaponise it. It is inevitable.
An honourable government (ha!) would acknowledge this danger and have no part in it.
We already have an early form of this in the US. Welfare payments are paid by EBT cards — debit cards — which can only be used for certain types of purchases. Like with everything else in life there’s workarounds for the motivated such as goods being bartered between individuals.
Digital currency sounds like a good idea, its really regularizing what we do all the time anyway with cards except that it won’t attract swipe fees (think of these as a bank’s private VAT). People will continue to trade with each other, finding convenient mediums of exchange in the process. Cash is of limited use these days anyway — if you’re caught with too much of it then its likely to be confiscated with a lot of time, effort and expense needed to stand a chance of getting it back.
And the Canadian Truckers all sighed with relief.
Do you really believe that being caught with too much cash should be punishable?
Who gets to decide the limit as to how much money the peasants are allowed to carry around?
My government. The limit is clear: 10000 USD. One penny above and all is confiscated as black money.
Conveniently inflated away since 1913, laws? What laws?? Mandates? What mandates??
Its the International max cash you can go through an International airport with without trouble. This info is of use for you and me.
Who did this max and why is not important.
Superficial policing, falling wages, growing destitution and convenient robberies can “encourage” people to carry or keep less cash.
Actually holding the money isn’t a crime, the confiscation is a civil process and requires you to apply to a court to convince them that the money was obtained legitimately. There’s no threshold for how much — $10,000 is a common threshold because that’s what you have to declare when crossing a US border. The UK has similar practices and I’d guess other countries have as well.
So, if you’re in an old car in a not very nice part of town and the cop that stops and searches you finds a couple of thousand, yes, you’ll lose it. Someone more respectable in a nicer area will be OK (but then they won’t be skulking around carrying large sums of money).
(I’ve noticed that many people— especially younger people (judging by their words they use) are actually fairly ignorant of what real life is actually about.)(This makes them very easy to manipulate.)(So in the context of this thread decrying ‘digital this and that’ while not realizing that this world is here, today, now and learning how to cope with it…..)
WHAT A CUCK…!!
“WHAT A CUCK…!!”
Nah – he wants to watch you, watching your wife being unfaithful. I’m not sure there’s a name for this. Perhaps a form of sadism?
He is a cuck for the new world order…not very bright on top of it.
If the controls on what the digital ruble can be used for become to onerous, barter will blossom. Precious metals, weapons, ammo, rare items, sex and drugs will all be back in circulation.
Whiskey. Dont forget the trade of whiskey will also blossom.
Australia and USA have actually been doing this for 20 years.
Whats wrong with alcohol and cigarettes.
A Romtoddy with warm Tea to keep poor people warm in the winter, and a cigarette to calm the nerves the last 3 days of the month. Its much cheaper than medication.
Clearly they’re all working together. Just forget the old adage “Monkey See, Monkey Do.” It doesn’t apply to humans – only monkeys. Humans would never stoop to jumping on bandwagons or following the leader or keeping up with the Jones-es. They’re an enlightened species above all that. So the only other explanation is that they’re all in it together.
These digital gulag tools are not occuring sequentially, they are occuring simultaneously.
Not just in major economies, also in African states and ‘war torn’ Ukraine for example.
Since when do poor Global South countries have the organisation, infrastructure and funds to prioritise digital IDs and digital payments systems when their populations have mass unemployment, poverty, poor healthcare and sometimes no access to even clean drinking water?
Did the Prime Minister or President of such countries wake up one morning and think that that need to compete with China, Russsia, US, EU or UK and roll out digital IDs BEFORE them, such as Uganda and Malawi? No, of course not, this is a top down directive from supranationals, NGOs, World Bank, IMF, UN etc.
https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/digital-development/the-importance-of-id-access-in-three-charts–insights-from-sub-s
Next up with CBDC, a similar story, not matter how poor a country, it is no barrier to planning a CBDC.
134 countries and currency unions on track with a CBDC, representing 98% of global GDP. All at least exploring it, if not already piloting a CBDC. Only 4 years ago that was only 35. That is progress for you…I mean ‘them’.
Look at the interactive tracker below:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cbdctracker/
In this age of instant communication, it isn’t surprising at all that every nation comes up with the same thing at the same time. Especially, considering how global the economy has become.
“Section 613 of Public Law 87-195 dated September 4, 1961 (22 USC 2363 (b)) …gives the Secretary of the Treasury sole authority to establish the exchange rates for all foreign currencies or credits….” And since the dollar is still the world’s Reserve Currency, poor nations especially had better do what the US says. If that means going digital, they will – even at the expense of their economies.
In addition, the Bank for International Settlements exercise great power over international finance. So, yes, there is a “top down” dynamic at play; but it’s almost entirely due to the wish of virtually nation on the planet to be a trading partner with other nations, especially the bigger ones. So if your poor nation wishes to deal with a rich nation, you must dance to their tune.
I can follow you a long way, but it is still a wrong way.
Because DC is a rigid stiff un-flexible closed system, where the fake paper dollares we had in our hands before at least was a flexible open system.
“Section 613 of Public Law 87-195 dated September 4, 1961 (22 USC 2363 (b)) …gives the Secretary of the Treasury sole authority to establish the exchange rates for all foreign currencies or credits….”
You missed off the following few words from your quote above “reported by all agencies of the government.”
This is for reporting purposes, nothing more. It is a way of valuing US Treasury balance sheet items in foreign currencies in USD equivalent purely for the reporting of such items using some kind of average rate though it doesn’t say how it is calculated.
Note the last line “Since the exchange rates in this report are not current rates of exchange, they should not be used to value transactions affecting dollar appropriations.”
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/reports-statements/treasury-reporting-rates-exchange/
The secretary of the US Treasury does not set FX rates worldwide.
It is the FX market whose DAILY trading volume is USD equiv. 7.5 trillion (7,500,000,000,000) where currency rates vary second by second every day that establishs currency values. The world’s biggest financial market by value.
Isn’t it an odd coincidence how all the countries and currencies of the world are heading in the same direction? Even the deadliest of enemies are longing to digitally embrace eachother.
Digital hand job?
Madame Palm and her five lovely daughters – the Digit Sisters.
Funerial for a friend perhaps?
Standing out like a huge sore thumb here at OmG: NEVER any critical article about Xi Jinping.or the PR of China, home of the summer capital of the WEF @ Tianjin. They have everything digital since long.
Putin on the other hand is fair game.
It isn’t so that China has “everything digital”.
I used cash for hotel rooms,train tickets and restaurants.
Simple binary b/s from an example remnant brain with removed moral compass.
$0.25 ct army: too obvious.
Spot on !
I wrote plenty of critical comments about Dictator Xi Jinping and China here. All have been censured and thumb down not by OffG but by the commenters. The sheeple love China.
Type “China” into the search. You will find many articles such as this https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/14/no-its-not-ok-when-china-does-it/
In fact here is an article bout the WEF meetings in Tanjin https://off-guardian.org/2023/05/24/wefs-2023-summer-davos-in-china/
Even if ‘our leaders’ honestly believed they were going to leave a currency as transparent and universal, the last 5 years have taught us that they can’t stop themselves – it’s in their DNA to control us. Even without adding the lobbying parasites in the mix.
A controlled digital rouble would lead to the creation of a black market economy probably based on cash dollars, most of which circulate outside the US, and would thus also result in a likely fall in tax revenue.
The Russians know how to do this, as the Soviet experience attests.
The ensuing rise in demand for dollars would be just what the issuers of the dollar – the Federal Reserve – would love to see.
None of this means that it won’t happen, merely that it will be counter-productive and will fail.
DUDE….the dollar is dead. If anything will circulate around a black market it is physical gold & silver…
I agree the dollar is dying but we’re not quite there yet.
Yes to gold as a store of value,but it isn’t suited to be a medium of exchange.
Why not?
Because in systems where gold is the medium of exchange its value becomes politicized and politicians want to fix its value, as during the Gold Standard. They seek to control it and it’s price. Debtors use their political power to systematically undervalue gold in such systems, therefore robbing those who save in gold.
It is the demonetisation of gold, freeing it from it’s medium of exchange role, which allows it to act purely as a store of wealth, and therefore allows it’s price to rise naturally,freeing savers from politicians, debtors and the inevitable over-issue of currency. We can see this today as gold rises over 3000USD in a way that is thoroughly uncontroversial compared to Gold Standard days.
If you are interested in this line of argument, I encourage you to visit:
Fofoa.blogspot.com
Wise comment thanks.
They mention governments will use a much higher gold value to balance the deficit from their derivative circus, and thus control the inflation.
I am not able to see through this smokey big big game.
I guess this is an example of Gresham’s Law, if people can choose between different currencies, they will prefer to accumulate the one that seems stronger, more reliable, and a digital Euro/ruble/pound with unfathomable strings attached that can be switched off on a whim would not win that competition
..based on crash dollares???
Q. What’s better than a foot in the door?
A. A hand in your wallet.
(Dark sarcasm) “I’m morbidly obese Bank for International Settlements Director Agustin Carstens … and I greedily approve this message from Russia.”
https://youtu.be/rpNnTuK5JJU?si=ENYatgnLFL-9NGZL
Yes, it is all for the benefit of citizens.
The salespitch of we your betters care for your well-being.
Informing the citizenry that their health will benefit from not spending their ‘benefits’ on vodka and throat burning Russian ciggies. Or telling parents that their offspring won’t be able to blow all their pocket money on weed, video games and takeaway kebabs.
Now the Western puppets will have to move up a gear in the digital arms race.
I can see the headlines now “Putin is winning the CBDC war”. The Western media will go into overdrive creating panic amongst the great unwashed. Roll up, roll up, get your Brit Coin, Fed Coin, whatever coin, just don’t let the Bear win.
Uncle Joe would be proud, not the senile American one, the other one, Stalin. If only he had the opportunity to control the population this way.
At the moment who is winning in the race for the digital enslavement.?
USA.?
U.K.?
Russia?
Europe.?
What about the African lot ?
It seems to me that they’ll have to properly launch all of them at the same time (much like “covid measures”) so that one lot, where it hasn’t been introduced yet, don’t see how shit it is for the other lot, where it has been introduced and subsequently kick up a fuss before they are digitally shackled and thereby subject to instant financial retribution.
However, I think we can say, with a fair degree of certainty, who isn’t winning anything.
It will take a major event or events to push it…lot of talk about world war…hhhmmmmm…I wonder….
Or, global economic collapse initiated by Trump.
Take meds for TDS
If they talk about it they mean it. They have everything to win and nothing to loose .https://vkvideo.ru/video788174651_456240599
You left out Satan…
Imagine that. The Russians going down the globalist yellow brick road.
I’m sure Stable Coin won’t follow the same path; nor the Digital Euro; etc. I’m confident in this because the media have told me that Putin is the dictator, whereas we all live in democracies. So that’s a relief.
To further cheer me up, at least there are no plans for the Bank of England to impleme … what? Oh.
Just like everywhere else, a very high % of the “Russian” population are gullible a-holes.
Not too long now until they get what they deserve.
Even as they starve some will be whispering “Make Russia Great Again” with their last breath.
Those with mixed Irish (Pontic steppe region of southern Russia) will also be praying for Mary’s, Brian Boru’s and/or the Leprechaun’s help as they succumb.
“… they get what they deserve.”
Not sure I agree with this sentiment. I agree that a huge portion of them are gullible as goes for the rest of the world, as you pointed out.
But are you saying that ‘being gullible’ should be punished with starvation or worse? That it’s their fault for not having the wherewithal to overcome the conditioning, see the lies and stop their government? Where in the world has that happened? I see protests and demonstrations, but no governments being overthrown. I see more and more instances of goverenments clamping down on their gullible populations.
Do all the gullible a-holes everywhere in the world deserve to die?
I’ve been gullible plenty of times in my life – probably will be again. Not sure I deserve to die though.
“That it’s their fault for not having the wherewithal to overcome the conditioning”
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile smile smile.
They are as good as dead already.
If they were it might just give the 4.99% (who successfully battled the inculcation/non-psychopathic) to kick against the pricks.
The likely reality is that they will be the cause of the early expiration of the 4.99%.
Let’s give the gullible a very long chance and start the cull at 50 yo.
“Do all the gullible a-holes everywhere in the world deserve to die?”
Yes.
“They are as good as dead already.”
I agree.
I just don’t see it as something to celebrate.
Having a death sentence for gullibility seems a bit, well, Orwellian to me. I can’t speak for anybody else here (or indeed anywhere) but I thought this is the sort of thinking we are fighting against.
Particularly as modern education, the media, the politics, [insert mass effect system of choice], controlled by the parasites in charge, has nurtured and encouraged that gullibility for generations.
I can only envy you for having lived your entire life without being gullible even once. I’d love to know how you managed it.
“I can only envy you for having lived your entire life without being gullible even once. I’d love to know how you managed it.”
Simple projection.
At the age of, say, 20 it was strange to see the towers fall straight to earth – all that is required thereafter is a brain and a moral compass.
On the assumption that the 95% have at least a brain remnant they must therefore have lost their inquisitive compass (if it ever existed).
Being beyond redemption is nothing to celebrate for the 4.99%
“… all that is required thereafter is a brain and a moral compass.”
You make it sound so simple. But awakening isn’t a linear process, nor does it happen all at once – at least not for the majority, as far as I know.
It happens over time as more and more incongruities come into view and we become better at spotting them, then fitting them into the overall picture as it emerges and develops.
However, during that process – even to today and probably beyond – I remember being surprised to see things being controlled that I had previously thought were not ie even during the awakening ‘process’ I was still being gullible in certain areas, right up to the point where I wasn’t (in that particular area). I imagine that is happening still today and tomorrow I will find out something that surprises me ie I’m being gullible in that area today.
I agree there is nothing to celebrate for the 4.99%. I would also add that patting oneself on the back for being one of the 4.99% looks a lot like hubris and is a dangerous path to tread for too long.
“I would also add that patting oneself on the back for being one of the 4.99% looks a lot like hubris”
Where tf is hubris in a lament.
Not sure what you mean by lament in this context.
I was referring to placing yourself on a level above the vast majority of humanity by virtue of something you can see which they cannot ie patting yourself on the back for being one of the 4.99%
Especially if that means celebrating the impending deaths of those people simply because they aren’t as ‘clever’ as you.
Having said that, I do understand why you might take this view. Fear provokes all sorts of different reactions in different people.
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“They are as good as dead already.”
I agree.
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Everything else is further projection & circuitous b/s.
You missed a bit:
“I just don’t see it as something to celebrate”
Context is important.
Enjoyed our chat.
👌
666 sign. I did not enjoy yr stupid chats and I doubt any intelligent person enjoyed it.
Are you two completely unaware that we ALL die plus minus 75 years old, notwithstanding we are gullible or not?
Apparently not!
Ok, so yourself are the gullible, and you think its ok to erase yourselves from the surface.
Ok so, then you are in a suicidal cult whether you know it or not, and the answer is NO.
You can NOT get company on your way down under as suiciders usually want because they cant do the trip alone. NO, NO and NO.
Just seen your comment.
A bit harsh, I thought.
Regardless of what you thought about the chat, there is nothing wrong with being polite. Also, people enjoy things for different reasons – not necessarily the reasons that are immediately apparent to you, no matter how intelligent you may be.
Of course everybody dies, irrespective of how gullible we are. Does that mean we have no responsibility for the way in which we behave before we die? Not talking about something doesn’t make it simply go away. That seems more indicative of a suicide cult than recognising problematic behaviour and trying to correct it while we still can – be that gullibility or anything else.
For the record, I am not suicidal.
Agree…but a fully functioning brain in this day and age might deserve a little pride…
Its not fully functioning until you stop talking about it.
Its a bit like saying “Am I the only one whos not in pain around here, well I’m the only one who won’t shut up about it.
It actually makes for being alone for much of the time, by being so surrounded by the gullible. But that’s part of the price you pay to consciously enter the magic theatre’
So true.
Equally bad is hoping that children do not have children.
Took me a number of years to become fully awake. This after seeing the greatest pretender, president Obutthole strut is Marxist stuff. No more snoozing for me…
It is fascinating what gives people that final push.
It is, as you know, perverse.
What exactly is perverse about it?
No memory of writing that – please ignore!
Obutthole.
But is said remnant actually capable of critical thought…and if so, has it been completely overwhelmed by nonstop psy-ops?
It’s unclear clear what fraction of the remnant either wishes it were part of the 0.01% or are just as bad as it.
For example, the number who think the murder of tens of thousands of kids is justified to get at the “bad guys in tunnels under their hospitals” is, in my own experience, large.
If a seemingly decent remnant-ee has, for example, co-n-vid clearly explained in a face-to-face and still walks away calling it covid neither might they be worth saving either after a second conversation.
Critical thought seems as meaningless unless based on a correctly oriented moral compass and for that, relatedly, while some ego is a requirement for self-preservation it quickly becomes a problem with inflation.
Gullibility is a form of Darwinism…
I suppose it is, which is why I think we try to overcome it when we can.
It was our universal basic instinct remember:
“..but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
LOL, we’re saved guys. Lu1 and his band of merry 4.99%ers will do something to preserve what remains of free humanity. Why, I’m certain they’re already taking effective action, not just eking out their existence like the rest of us, waiting for the horrors being planned.
At last! A hero we can take comfort from, even if we lesser mortals are already as good as dead.
It is a wish only to see the back of the 95% prior our own demise.
With, say, 8 billion total currently that would become a 400 million (less 80 thousand) versus 80 thousand walk in the park.
In reality, it seems impossible to unshackle the 7.6 billion and therefore an impossible task for the 400 million (to fight the 80 thousand & their 7.6 billion minders).
Only a-holes need a hero:
that being a primary reason why the entire 8 Billion (less 80 thousand) are all in a hole.
By definition then, 400 million are simply in a hole due to the 80 thousand and billions of enabling a-holes.
Are we awake enough? Will we know ‘the last straw” when we see, or rather fail to see it.
Can we tell the difference between awake and ‘woke?’
Really good questions. We all have our own answers, I suppose.
For me, the second one is easier – it seems to me that the more awake we are, the more we realise we are in a vertical war against those ‘above’ us, the more kinship we feel with others at our level (mostly – there are exceptions) because the divisions being foisted upon us are, for the large part, illusory.
To my mind, woke is the antithesis of that. It promotes ever more divisions in society in the name of inclusion, hating any who do not agree absolutely with them. We all now how woke works.
As for the first question, I would say (in order): probably not, probably not and very probably. But when you’re tied to the tracks, does it matter at which point you spot the train coming?
It might be important in the manner you meet the train, or not.
Perhaps.
But if you’re tied to the tracks, your options are eyes open or eyes closed. We may have our eyes open but that alone won’t stop the train.
No one is “tied to the tracks” unless he believes it so.
I think I understand what you mean, but here’s the thing …
If you live in a country where the govt has the monopoly on violence (police, military, judicial system etc), you’re tied to the tracks.
If you live in a country where your life is micro-managed by legislation, you’re tied to the tracks.
If you pay multiple taxes, sometimes for the same thing over and over again, you’re tied to the tracks.
If you can’t say what you want when you want to, you’re tied to the tracks.
If your country’s economy operates at the whim, and for the benefit, of corporations and supra-national organisations, you’re tied to the tracks.
Etc. I could go on but you get the point.
Belief doesn’t really enter into it. Perhaps choice does – you could always choose to live somewhere where none of these things exist or, at the very least, aren’t an issue but I’m not sure that such a place exists anymore.
There are very huge empty areas left on the planet.
Bought up by billionaires or funds or Royals who “owns” them as “nature reserves” (property).
its a question about comfort and family and friends. Off grid?
There are huge empty areas but you’re right – try finding one that someone or some organisation doesn’t ‘own’.
Off grid would work for me, but I’m not sure I could persuade close family to come along on that journey. I could leave them behind but then what would be the point?
For someone with no ties, or a group of like-minded people, I think it could work for a while. A small community could probably rub along – much like small African or Amazonian tribes. It wouldn’t be for everybody though.
This is to assume (make an ass out of you and me) that this low-level simulation or whatever it is does not function on occult/spiritual rules. There are holes or portals in the system through which the right people can pass relatively unscathed.
The analogy is faulty. We have room if not the inclination to manoeuver.
We are not tied to the tracks. They may want us to believe that this is so. But it may be that we are required to take relatively sudden, or even drastic action, which may mean that the connections which were so important, and underpinned our ‘reality’ to this point in our lives need to be severed.
Where the tendrils and tentacles of which we were not/are not aware, connecting us into the ,matrix weaken us to the point of defeatism.
Good song. I’ll need to listen to it a couple more times to try and absorb its message.
I’m not sure my analogy is incorrect though – at least for the vast majority of people. In a very real sense, we are tied to the tracks. Even if it is only our perceptions that are the ropes holding us down. Reality is what we perceive it to be. In the same way that power lies where we perceive it to lie – which is why so much effort is put into pointing out who rules over us. I get that. But even understanding how the system works is not a means of esaping said system. We live through our perceptions, so it is a hard thing to dismiss them in the hope that another path is possible. Even those of us who see the system for what it is are still held in place by that system. Rightly or wrongly.
Having said that, my friend would probably agree with you. I’m going to forward the song link to her. It will definitely resonate.
I really hope you are right. I do not hold out much hope for me finding the way out you describe, but if you can make it out then at least one of us will be free of this. That may be all it takes. I don’t know. I’m not sure I’m one of the right people to whom you refer. But if you can do it, then I wish you good fortune.
‘But what IF?’ The actual question is what is actually happening? ‘De facto, non de jure.’
The way IN is the way OUT. This can only be addressed in the moment, aka ‘NOW.’
I am speaking to myself as much as to you.
It’s a matter of connecting with, being cognisant of, aware of the life force within you, and can only be accessed in the moment.
Because the same life force, ‘elan vital’ is the energy, frequency/force that is running EVERYTHING.
It works even better in a group context.
In a group you can spin it up so that you become untouchable by elements with lower vibration/frequency..
Given the right conditions it will communicate with YOU directly, and the observable degree of synchronicity can go up to amazing levels.
Don Juan reputedly said, ‘if a sniper with telescopic sights comes hunting for me, I will simply not come around.’
It’s hard to believe that this dance is co-ordinated, but it is, the whole thing.
BTW there are 179 songs on my YT channel.
I’ll go and have a look at your YT channel! Impressive guitar skills, if that’s you playing and singing.
I have read enough over the years to understand what you’re saying and I don’t disagree with anything you’re putting forward.
Perhaps it’s a confidence thing. Perhaps I have too many distractions.
Yes it’s me, all shortly to be 77 years of this one. The thing was, we didn’t take ‘the DEAL’ in 1981. you have to take the deal and become a debt slave, that’s how the system works in regard to the music business/industry.
But they released ‘Living Outside the Law’ WITHOUT A CONTRACT.as a single, anyway. A crime punishable even then by £1000 per record and 2 years in jail FOR ANYONE INVOLVED who knew about the fraud but didn’t do anything..
But healing/consciousness work was present in my life since the early 70s and there was no escaping that, so my life was split into 2 halves.
Seems to be a common theme in the music industry. I do wonder how many brilliant performers didn’t ‘make it’ because they were unwilling to take the deal.
You only have to look at vacuous zombies like Taylor Swift and the reach she has to know something is not right.
Despite your disappointments, you had something more important to think about. Annoying perhaps, but better than the alternative. Imagine if you had taken the deal!
I’m not going to name drop, but I knew plenty who signed. They made money eventually, well, some of them.. After paying off the bills/debts for the hotels, the limos, the occasional helicopter etc.
They are all dead.
The subsistence money the management company were going to pay was pitiful, less than the dole, and we had families to support.
Imagine touring in Germany on £3 a day expenses.
And getting the £20 million bill from the record company that buys you out from the company that signed you first, just when things had started looking better.
I came to realise that I was being protected from all that, even though I grumbled a bit at first.
You see all the stuff going on. With the rappers for example. If you succumb to the offered temptations, they’ve got you for life, however long that’s going to be.
Smile, you’re on television.
“ Just like everywhere else, a very high % of …..population are …holes. “
The Solution
After the uprising of the 17th June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
Exactly.
The a-holes get the psychopathic Global Mafia that they deserve.
Don’t worry Boru, Hazmat Corona Putin and the Leprechaun will save the day.
Oh dear, when one dismisses the majority of mankind as “ just like everywhere else, a very high % of…population are…holes. “ You are a role model for
https://archive.org/details/resistibleriseof0000brec
I guess i’d laugh at that but no chance of ever clicking a link from an extremely dodgy source.
Now this is funny. Even the, alleged, Irish God knows the vast majority of its, alleged, creation are a-holes:
😂
Unfortunately, when someone believes in ” just like everywhere else, a very high % of population..holes” humour is not, in many instances, not part and parcel of their makeup.
“..a link from an extremely dodgy source.”. Der Sturmer is more to your liking eh !
Definitely not.
The % of Israeli a-holes is much the same as that in Russia, Ieland and everywhere else. It would be wrong to pick on a single group 😂
” Definitely not.”
Just to recap you stated ” just like everywhere else, a very high % of..population..holes.”
So you are a pot pouri of Pol Pot, Mein Fuhrer, The Glorious leader and all the other Luney 🎶
You have entered the twilight zone, again.
It’s the 0.01% that will sort the 95% out – not the 4.99%
However, pushing them along to get on that broad road is a simple matter of very little timing.
Hazmat Corona Lavrov will follow along shortly after too, the only difference being the superior quality cigarretes smoked in the interval.
Are you having a memory lapse as you did previously in this thread ?
Don’t distress yourself I will help you to recall what you stated “ just like everywhere else, a very high % of ..population holes”
Yes, my dear Luney I see you would have fitted in very well with Pol Pot & Chums practices!
Seems to be slight hint of sarcasm there…