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Gatsby Meets Nietzsche on the Train to Town

Edward Curtin

“Time present and time past
Are both perhaps present in time future
And time future contained in time past.
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present.”
T.S. Eliot, The Four Quartets

“You can’t repeat the past,” says Nick Carraway to Jay Gatsby in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby, which was published one hundred years ago this spring.

Gatsby responds incredulously, “Can’t repeat the past? Why of course you can!”

This often quoted exchange is typically used to exhibit Gatsby’s delusions, but he may have been right, in the wrong way.

A deep reading of the book suggests it offers the perfect description of today’s political and cultural life, in Nick’s words: “a satisfactory hint of the unreality of reality, a promise that the rock of the world was founded securely on a fairy’s wings.”

Commentating on the Roaring Twenties as they started to meow, Fitzgerald later wrote, “By 1927 a widespread neurosis began to be evident, faintly signaled, like a nervous beating of the feet, by the popularity of crossword puzzles.” He said that once “pretty much of anything went“ at Cap d’Antibes on the French Riviera near where he and his wife Zelda had lived for a while.

It also was an apt description of New York City and other places where the wild life of the post-World War I reaction was in full force.

It was not just speakeasies, jazz, and a sexual revolution, but the first full-blown phase of the technological and commercial world we know today. The 1920s’ modernism, with its ethos of the prohibition to prohibit still somewhat limited to certain cities, was the seedbed for postmodernism’s vastly expanded and deeper rooted transformation of cultural mores today where anything goes.

But by the late 1920s, tamed by political and economic world events, personal disillusionment from the war’s reality, and hangovers from unbridled excess, dispirited days followed, only to be followed by deeper depressions emanating from the stock market crash, followed by the Great Depression, and World War II.

Nevertheless, in 1934 Cole Porter wrote the song, Anything Goes, for the musical by the same name, that, despite being censored for its naughty lyrics, captured in witty words the aftereffects of a world where the old mores were dying as the world was sailing into disaster on a ship of fools.

In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking
But now, God knows
Anything goes

Good authors too who once knew better words
Now only use four-letter words
Writing prose
Anything goes

The world has gone mad today
And good’s bad today
And black’s white today
And day’s night today

Just think of those shocks you’ve got
And those knocks you’ve got
And those blues you’ve got
From that news you’ve got
And those pains you’ve got
If any brains you’ve got

It was also in the mid-nineteen thirties that Fitzgerald penned three essays for Esquire magazine about his personal breakdown that were posthumously collected in 1945 in The Crackup. Fitzgerald barely made it through the 1930s, dying in 1940 as WWII was underway, the confirmation that WWI was not “the war to end all wars.”

From “shell shock” to economic shock to “combat fatigue” to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), the wars rolled on over millions of corpses and destroyed countries. They roll on still. The toll on the combatants and victims is obvious, but the crackups among those who danced through the carnage or sat fat and seemingly satisfied or indifferent remains unknown.

Still does, as indifference reigns with bi-partisan savagery hidden behind illusory party politics that shroud rule by the monied class via a systemic duopoly. Their elitism and materialism – for which some critics have dismissed Fitzgerald’s book because he describes and castigates its ugly characters and their careless indifference to regular people – define the lifestyles of those who today own the country yet are the envy of so many people besotted by celebrity worship and wish they too were immoral billionaires running the show.

Gatsby is set in the 1920s, but one could easily rewrite the story today – because it is a recurring American tragedy and is repeating – with some figure like Donald Trump cast as Gatsby. But Gatsby or Trump or Daisy or the racist Tom Buchanan are gross symptoms of a class system of domination. As individuals, they are replaceable, revolving characters in a structural order that repeats and repeats.

The character of Jay Gatsby and his luxurious life may be Hollywood’s focus (as are the grotesqueries of today’s celebrities and media billionaires), but the narrator of Fitzgerald’s book, Nick Carraway, who participated in WW I and who, to disguise his torment, says – that he “enjoyed the counterraid so thoroughly” – is the key. Speaking facetiously can hide a lot of pain. Fitzgerald threw a lot of his pain into The Great Gatsby. Despite its glittering surface, it is the story of lost souls, and Fitzgerald was one of them, but by writing the book he strove to find what he had lost.

If this sounds at all familiar, it may be because you are thinking of today’s focus on rich celebrities like Gatsby and Trump who pepper the news, convoluted intimations of disaster both martial and economic, and the popularity of the web based Wordle puzzle and its offshoots as well as crossword puzzles (more about pop cultural reference words these days) – among other similarities to the moribund 1920s.

What’s the right word to describe what is underway today?

Clearly there is a widespread anxiety as in the late 1920s – now a tapping of nervous fingers on billions of cells – that we are involved in a puzzle that needs solving yet are running out of chances to find the right word to characterize it, not to say solve it. For Wordle devotees, it couldn’t be “repeat” since that has six letters. How about “rerun”? That fits Wordle’s numerical format and today’s video world but leaves the question: rerun of what?

Would “havoc” work, or do we need something much stronger that doesn’t fit within the strictures of word games? Catastrophe?

WWIII? A Greater Depression?

Last night I had a very disturbing dream. I am not making this up. I was in a car that was also a house with a woman I know and her mother. The woman put the car on automatic self-drive to go backwards and it was proceeding down a dark country road. I was greatly agitated as we traveled automatically backwards, “borne back ceaselessly into the past,” as Fitzgerald ends his book, and I told the woman I would ask her twenty-five times to reverse our direction or I would leave. She refused twenty-five times and I left.

I am not opposed to looking back, but not automatically. Going back by choice to come forward wiser and more enriched by all experiences – good and bad – is an essential journey.

Was my dream a premonition of what I am writing here, a prologue to my musings about The Great Gatsby, which I had been rereading for a reason unconnected to its centennial? Perhaps. For are our dreams not telling us something important, something far greater than, but not excluding, our personal lives?

When he died, Fitzgerald was working in Hollywood, the Dream Factory, where one can imagine he might still have harbored Gatsby’s “colossal vitality of his illusion,” even as his physical health deteriorated after years of very heavy drinking.

I have come back by train and choice with the woman of my dreams for a short visit to New York City where I was born and grew up. All is changed, changed utterly, yet it remains the same, filtered through memory. It is not repetition but a reminder.

The train coming into the city flashed quickly by an apartment building at 204th Street in the Bronx where I recalled hearing as a twelve year old the news that our nice neighbor’s wife, Mrs. Schwartz, had jumped to her death onto the tracks, a Bronx Anna Karenina. It was April 29th – my mother’s birthday.

After arrival at Grand Central Station, our peregrinations took us past our old railroad flat with its rascally stairwell, as our four year-old daughter used to describe it. On Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn John Curtin’s name still poses prominently for his sail making company, a reminder of a time when people as well as answers were blowing in the wind.

In a park I met the white dove who might have sailed many seas and once slept in the sand but now pigeon-toes its way back and forth at my feet, cooing messages that entrance my unknowing mind. In Central Park, where as high school student I would train for basketball season by running around the reservoir track and later would wander dreamily looking for girls and watch Shakespeare plays at the Delacorte Theater, we dawdled under an avenue of cherry blossom trees whose blossoms flew like snow with the slightest breeze and little children screamed and ran in circles of delight and we silently lost ourselves in reveries of life’s ephemerality.

Didn’t Eliot say that “the leaves were full of children,/Hidden excitedly, containing laughter. /Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind/Cannot bear very much reality”?

Scott Fitzgerald was right, when at the age of twenty-eight he realized through the voice of Nick Carraway that the future recedes before us year by year. It is the thought of a much older man, or a man who senses his mode of life is wrong and doomed. But he knew too that we are always “borne back ceaselessly into the past.” Dying at the age of forty-four, his past was quite brief and his future expunged.

But no matter how long or short our lifespans and no matter how fine or tragic our lives, everything and everyone who have passed through them are ours to accept or reject. One time and one time only – for every time is that one time – do we have a chance to say yes or no, to affirm or deny that everything is connected, is one. That we are who we were with all our experiences. And as Friedrich Nietzsche said, “ … if ever you wanted one thing twice, if ever you said, ‘You please me, happiness! Abide, moment!’ then you wanted all back. All anew, all eternally, all entangled, ensnared, enamored.” The good and the bad, all your life; for it is yours, no other’s.

It might sound strange that my thinking about Nietzsche brought me back to read The Great Gatsby. I first read it long ago, in high school as I recall, Regis High School, that sits on the upper east side of Manhattan between Park and Madison Avenues, a neighborhood where during four years, between my travels back and forth on the subway to and from my Bronx home, I would encounter the world of the very wealthy. Sometimes on cold evenings before basketball games, I would walk the neighborhood, mentally preparing to play my best. On Park Avenue I would watch the cabs and limousines glitter as they went back and forth, picking up and disgorging their rich passengers. Two blocks over on Fifth Avenue I would see women in mink coats walking little dogs in racoon wraps coming and going from doors opened and closed by doormen. I would often wonder what the doormen thought, having a great beloved uncle Nealy who was one. I thought that Gatsby, while wishing to also be treated with that old money obeisance, might think their wealth was also gotten by stealth, but of the legal kind. He would have been right in most cases. These thoughts that interrupted my game preparations stay with me still.

Nietzsche was always preoccupied with the connection between literature and life. He believed in making a work of art out of himself. He saw his own life as a narrative and authors’ best moments in their work. “The ‘work,’ he wrote, whether of the artist or the philosopher, invents the person who has created it, who is supposed to have created it: ‘the great,’ as they are venerated, are subsequent pieces of wretched minor fiction.”

On the train back from the city, May 1, the date of my father’s death, I read this from Freddy, as I have come to call my literary friend Nietzsche, who, despite his reputation, ironically or not, took Jesus very seriously, and who in his own way repeats his teaching that the kingdom of God is here now:

And if we consider that every human action, not only a book, is in some way or other the cause of other actions, decisions, and thoughts; that everything that happens is inseparably connected with everything that is going to happen, we recognize the real immortality, that of movement – that which has once moved is enclosed and immortalized in the general union of all existence like an insect within a piece of amber.

So do you think Gatsby was right in one way and right in the wrong way – that as individuals we not only can repeat our pasts but should (as in affirm them, not redo them) – because by doing so we take full responsibility for our identities, become who we are, assert our freedom, and immortalize our lives?

I do.

I do too, she said. Celebrate “the transitory enchanted moment” and eternity recurs! The eternal return.

As for the circumstances of our lives that we were tossed into and couldn’t control, accept them also. But from this moment on, our only time, let us try to create a social order where a book like The Great Gatsby never has to be written again, to make the world it describes a bad dream, so we can say with Nick Carraway that that “party’s over.”

Edward Curtin: sociologist, researcher, poet, essayist, journalist, novelist….writer – beyond a cage of categories. His new book is AT THE LOST AND FOUND: Personal & Political Dispatches of Resistance and Hope (Clarity Press)

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thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
May 12, 2025 7:38 PM

War Pigs
Black Sabbath
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death’s construction

In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh, Lord, yeah

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait ’til their judgement day comes, yeah

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour

Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
Oh, Lord, yeah

blackcat
blackcat
May 12, 2025 1:20 PM

What an interesting digression from today’s scrolling around the geopolitical world!
Much food for rumination…

Martillo
Martillo
May 12, 2025 9:40 AM

Life doesn’t give a rat’s ass who lives it, or who chucks it away.

It’s your gig. Do it your way, but do it!

Onward back to dust.

les online
les online
May 11, 2025 10:38 PM

‘You cant repeat the past’ is not a Fact, it’s a probability…
‘Just Because’ no one (we know of) has separated / isolated
a Virus doesnt mean Viruses do not exist: Same goes for the
existence of Unicorns, and Martians…

Aloysius
Aloysius
May 11, 2025 9:05 PM

The only reason the Great Gadsby is so famous is because the US government distributed cheap paperbacks of it by the millions to US GIs in WWII.

davcmat
davcmat
May 12, 2025 9:47 AM
Reply to  Aloysius

The only reason the Great Gadsby is so famous

Not so. From now distant memory, it was well written and quite an entertaining read.

Same goes for this, additionally thought-provoking, article 🙂

Aloysius
Aloysius
May 13, 2025 8:55 PM
Reply to  davcmat

You don’t know. Did you look up sales records? Do you know anything about its publication history? Its critiques? Where were you taught that answering a factual assertion with a personal feeling constitutes argument in the scholarly sense?

underground poet
underground poet
May 11, 2025 6:46 PM

This is all well and good, but meanwhile your European leaders are driving off the CLIFF, and like this year,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/absurd-conspiracy-french-media-rushes-quash-claims-macron-merz-starmer-caught-hiding Cocaine.

Hail
Hail
May 11, 2025 6:16 PM

Nietzsche also wrote

“After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands.” 

les online
les online
May 11, 2025 10:16 PM
Reply to  Hail

‘After coming’ ‘ must wash my hands’ ??

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 12, 2025 7:58 PM
Reply to  Hail

Why? Because Nietzsche felt dirty. He felt the religious man was wiser, cleaner, more honest and more straight than himself.

By washing his hands, he was like Pontius Pilates who admitted and didnt understood the injustice of the crowd, but nevertheless make it happen and wash his hands after the crowd’s and his dirty confirmation!

mik
mik
May 13, 2025 4:31 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

is this your daydreaming or you can substantiate, with a quote preferably?

I’ve heard many times Nietzsche wasn’t anti-god, still haven’t seen any quote in support of such an idea.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 13, 2025 10:52 PM
Reply to  mik

I dont quite understand your question.

Quotes:”Nietzsche categorized as a nihilist in the sense that he believed that there was no longer any real substance to traditional social, political, moral, and religious values. He denied that those values had any objective validity.

Nietzsche saw that the old values and old morality simply didn’t have the same power that they once did.
It is here that he announced the “death of God,” arguing that the traditional source of ultimate and transcendental value, God, no longer mattered in modern culture and was effectively dead to us”.

Nietzsche regarded the “death of God” as being ultimately a good thing for society, believing that traditional moral values, and in particular those stemming from traditional Christianity, were ultimately harmful to humanity.

Mr. Curtin wrote “Nietzsche, ironically or not, took Jesus very seriously, and who in his own way repeats his teaching that the kingdom of God is here now:”.
The quote here refer to also our own critique of religion of today. Its the same hypocrisy in religion we object upon, but nevertheless praise the idea behind.

Nietzsche sees society’s nihilism and declare therefore Christianity’s (religion/church) insufficiency and bankruptcy.

And what I am saying is, this is because Nietzsche didnt fully understood.
He didnt fully understood Christianity why he reject it, like another Pontius Pilate.
Nietzsche has other dumb quotes and is not among my top favourites:
comment image . My regrets.

mik
mik
May 14, 2025 4:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I thought Nietzsche’s quotes where one could see he is not anti-god.
Ed provided a possible-one, with a stretch I can see panentheism in it.

“He didnt fully understood Christianity…”

You cannot say this.
He had a peculiar world-view.

Howard
Howard
May 14, 2025 4:22 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The quotes you offer are not from Nietzsche – which is what Hail requested – but by others about what they concluded Nietzsche meant.

Penelope
Penelope
May 11, 2025 4:59 PM

An extremely powerful video presentation of our recent past.
If you don’t cry you’re not human.
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/who-is-the-vigilant-fox

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 13, 2025 6:35 PM
Reply to  Penelope

True. A splendid link, thanks.

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
May 11, 2025 2:32 PM

And if we consider that every human action, not only a book, is in some way or other the cause of other actions, decisions, and thoughts; that everything that happens is inseparably connected with everything that is going to happen, we recognize the real immortality, that of movement – that which has once moved is enclosed and immortalized in the general union of all existence like an insect within a piece of amber.

***
Nietzsche may have, in this brief statement, whether intentional or unintentional, offered the simplest-yet-most-profound philosophical argument ever presented against continuation of the criminally insane violence and destruction of war.

underground poet
underground poet
May 11, 2025 6:53 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

They used to burn books b/c they needed more people to grow food for the book readers, you can see where a strike or burning might occur, and even the farmers would come up short taking time trying to get the book readers to cease and disist from reading.

Its much like the English language today, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 12, 2025 12:39 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

War is a Lie

Wars Are Not Fought Against Evil
Wars Are Not Launched in Defense
Wars Are Not Waged Out of Generosity
Wars Are Not Unavoidable
Warriors Are Not Heroes
War Makers Do Not Have Noble Motives
Wars Are Not Prolonged for the Good of Soldiers
Wars Are Not Fought on Battlefields
Wars Are Not Won, and Are Not Ended By Enlarging Them
War News Does Not Come From Disinterested Observers
War Does Not Bring Security and Is Not Sustainable
Wars Are Not Legal
Wars Cannot Be Both Planned and Avoided
War Is Over If You Want It

– David Swanson

rickypop
rickypop
May 11, 2025 12:12 PM

Imagine living in a Garden of Eden, where there was only good and you had everything your heart desired.
Only beautiful people? No illness or death? Anything you wanted you could have just by thinking? And if you get bored, there is no way out.

Imagine an authoritarian regime in this reality, where everything works like a pendulum swing. We are told what to do, what to eat, and where to go; we are controlled in everything we do. But we can decide to fight back.

Which of the above is a living hell?
We crave the first but need the second.

underground poet
underground poet
May 11, 2025 6:56 PM
Reply to  rickypop

Thats why there are 5 times as many bad words to choose from as there are good ones, to keep people on the right bad track.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 12, 2025 8:14 PM
Reply to  rickypop

My opinion is directly opposite. In the Garden of Eden you live forever to have time to find the divine in everything.

Start with a bamboo flute, teach yourself, examine variations, play after 50 year practise together with symphony orchestras, seek other rhythm groups to play with.

The Bamboo flute’s feasibilities for exploration are endless.Same with other areas, shoes, T-shirts, flowers, m.m.

When I was young in the twenties I was thinking like you, that eternity would/could be boring, be impossible.
Imagine not to be able to die but forced to live a life you hate and dont like…………LOL.

First at mature age I understood the fantastic wonder and master piece of God’s creation.

Johnny
Johnny
May 11, 2025 10:22 AM

Ken Wilber called it the Holographic Paradigm:

“And if we consider that every human action, not only a book, is in some way or other the cause of other actions, decisions, and thoughts; that everything that happens is inseparably connected with everything that is going to happen, we recognize the real immortality, that of movement – that which has once moved is enclosed and immortalized in the general union of all existence like an insect within a piece of amber.”

It makes a lot of sense and even seems logical:

http://taggedwiki.zubiaga.org/new_content/9c25c38e79970d5089ccd1981b115dbb

George Mc
George Mc
May 11, 2025 9:33 AM

I don’t think there can be a more intense symbol for complacent consumerist luxurious appetite than the whole transgender scam. Here we have the ultimate desire for attaining absolutely anything you want. You can “become” the opposite sex. And yes, it’s binary as proven by the immediate passage from blather about “non-binary” to blather about transmen and transwomen not to mention transitioning i.e. from one sex to the other.  

So here we have a demand for the ultimate consumerist fantasy: your own sexuality as the latest disposable commodity.

And since Ed spoke about this dream – here’s mine from last night: Cliff Richard was in bed with a woman twice his size i.e. twice as tall and twice as wide. That confused me until I realised that it was the least sexual image I could possibly have imagined. Cliff apparently had sex once in his like – and even that is hard to imagine! Meanwhile he is in bed with what is effectively his mother!
What can it mean? I reckon it’s a dream that sums up where I always felt that transgenderism was going: to a complete denial of sex! There will be no sex in the future – outside that which is depicted in the endless reruns of porn. Or perhaps there will be two groups: a few who devote their lives to supplying endless sex shows – and the majority who just sit and watch.    

Johnny
Johnny
May 11, 2025 11:16 AM
Reply to  George Mc

We can forget about the atomic age, the jet age, the computer age and the robot age.

We are living in the Me, Me, Me age.
Narcissus IS the God of the 21st century.
All you need is a reflective surface.

ariel
ariel
May 11, 2025 12:34 PM
Reply to  Johnny

In the late Sixties I lived for a while in a cold water apartment above the Occult Bookstore at 242 W 72 St. I went a couple of times to NYU Brooklyn with my host s military historian of sorts. I got to see the American way of education in in-action, feet up and smoking cigarettes in English Lit classes, apparently tolerated if not actually encouraged.
Cockroaches abounded in the apartment, and I existed on Nedick’s 10 cent coffee and 25 cent hamburgers.
I could wander round apparently safely at night, Washington Square Park was a favourite in fact I locked myself out at one point and got two of NYC’s finest to break in for me, which I was amused to see one of them sliding the lock with the simple credit card trick.
I wound up with my not very good guitar at an all-black/Hispanic party on 19th Street. A big black guy told me, ‘Kid, you ain’t never had the BLUES.’
It later degenerated into a knife fight which was sort of over me, between the gay and non gay components of the party.
‘Don’t break up the happy home on my account,’ I told them. ‘I’m going to the ‘Y’.
Little Joe walked me to the 23rd St Y(MCA).
When I returned to England and somebody wanted to know ‘How was New York?’
‘Liverpool on methedrine,’ I replied.

Johnny
Johnny
May 12, 2025 12:09 AM
Reply to  ariel

Good story Ariel.
Thanks.

underground poet
underground poet
May 11, 2025 6:59 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Gives you a good tan too.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
May 11, 2025 11:29 AM
Reply to  George Mc

What can it mean?

Depends, it could mean anything. Dreams are a strange thing (except for conscious dreams, when you just choose a thread and wander through any of the 600 possible energy castanedian worlds; if you are lucky – even in the company of Don Genaro, and he, as we know, is funny in a very simple way).

Maybe in your dream you imagined yourself as what you subconsciously always wanted to be – Cliff, and the cube woman was a transgender, reflecting your secret naughty desires, conceived in the incomprehensible world of early teen years, but deeply hidden afterwards, because of the public disapproval of sexual revolution in the sexual anchored in the traditionalism old Britain.

Once, in my sleep, I found myself in bed with a muscular Ethiopian Jew transgender (he even wore his little black hat and his tefillin, on top of all). Which was outrageous — anyone who knows my harsh Nazi nature knows that I wouldn’t go to bed with anything less than a pure blonde Aryan trans.

tefillin:

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George Mc
George Mc
May 12, 2025 6:36 AM

I doubt if I had any “transgender” dreams in my teens since the idiotic and curiously sexless trans scam hadn’t been launched back then.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
May 12, 2025 12:52 PM
Reply to  George Mc

In such a case, I officially declare my comment invalid (except that it is blunt, but this, in the end, everyone has already understood it).

Howard
Howard
May 11, 2025 5:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, “blather” is apropos here.

les online
les online
May 11, 2025 10:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George Mc,
Cliff Richards is banned from my dreams. And that goes for his
‘mother’ (and his Bible): Mick Jagger is so too banned !!.
It’s Quality or Nothing !!

Lupa
Lupa
May 12, 2025 3:48 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Transgenderism is on the road to Transhumanism.