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“Lab-grown meat could erase the need for farming”

Kit Knightly

Professor Luke O’Neill of Trinity College gave an interview to the Show Me the Science podcast a few days ago, praising the rise of “lab-grown” or “cultivated” meat, and predicting it would spell the end of animal farming in the future.

To emphasise the supposed need for this transition, the biochemist cited the widely-repeated cliché that farming animals produces 12% of the world’s carbon emissions:

“Environmentally it’s very important because it turns out 12% of greenhouse gases are coming off farm animals,”

Going on to laud lab-grown meat’s ethical superiority to real meat:

“One-in-five people in Europe are vegetarians, they’ve asked them, and many of them have said, ‘Yes, of course [we would eat lab grown meat], we’re vegetarians because we don’t like the cruelty that happens when farm animals are being killed and we’re eating them’ […] If you can make a steak out of a vat and no animals have been harmed by this in any way at all, why wouldn’t you eat it?”

He adds, perhaps jokingly, that farmers should “turn [their] farms into vats full of cells growing to make meat.”

I’m not singling Professor O’Neill for special criticism on this. He is just one of many straws in the wind on lab-grown meat, which has grown in prominence in the “food revolution” narrative to the point of over-taking edible insects as the “alternative protein” du jour.

Only last month, the media thrilled at the production of the “world’s largest cultivated chicken nugget”. Which, incidentally, looks exactly as appetizing as you’d expect:

The Open University tells us that lab-grown meat will “drive forward medical research”.

Israel is already selling cultivated “steaks”, and other cultivated meat producers already have products “under review” in New Zealand, Australia, the US, the EU, Singapore, Hong Kong and South Korea.

It is already available in the UK as pet food, where the MSM are giving it glowing reviews. The UK is expected to approve it for human consumption within two years, with grants handed out to companies to “fast-track” the process.

But why? Why would the “Great Reset” want to “erase the need for farming”?

It’s not like farming and farmers exist independently of the global exploitation machine. A huge percentage of meat-producing farms are owned by massive international conglomerates, growing meat as quickly as possible to squeeze through nugget-shaped moulds for a million fast-food chains.

Why would they want to murder this cash cow? (Pun very much intended)

If the proffered answers of “ethics” and “climate change” aren’t already ringing hollow to you, then you’re not paying attention.

The only answer that seems to satisfy is “control”. One more filtration layer between you and independence.

After all, anyone can raise their own chickens, pigs or cows – it’s just a matter of space. Even if you’re lacking the resources to become self-sufficient, small local farms are an option that avoids Big Farmer.

But if lab-grown meat replaces natural meat, that makes corporations your only source for meat at all. It means the chemical content and nutritional value can be controlled, and makes scarcity easy to engineer as well.

And perhaps more importantly, it is pretend, it is unreal.

It is one more process that removes humans from a grounding in the real world.

I’m not sure it’s possible to overstate how much of the post-Covid agenda is about an all-out assault on reality, with the final goal of making almost everything people experience – even down to the food they eat – fake.

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iskratov
iskratov
May 18, 2025 5:11 PM

Lab-grown meat could eliminate the need for farming: only because we will become their farm animals and slaughterhouse animals.

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
May 18, 2025 1:45 PM

“One-in-five people in Europe are vegetarians, they’ve asked them, and many of them have said, ‘Yes, of course [we would eat lab grown meat]”

Well I would say no way. I have been a vegetarian for 56 years. I never take vitamins.
I worked my whole life with out illness except appendicitis and the occasional cold.
I was once given a surprise a visit to a Buddhist restaurant. But I could not eat the food as they had managed to make it look and smell exactly like meat.
My wife sometimes asks me to buy her a chicken from the supermarket and I do but I think eating the chicken is not much different that eating our pet cat. Just what has become a social norm. Some would argue a necessity. Could growing vegetable’s replace livestock I think so but others would argue that it would not work.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 18, 2025 11:29 PM
Reply to  Brian Sides

Your point is ok. But I think livestock is part of nature’s cycle in one or another way.
I even think I could learn eat only vegetables and fruit because it IS very spicy and tasteful in many ways.
But generally speaking I would rely on the Scriptures saying God allowed us to eat animals within a certain frame.

Derek Diamond
Derek Diamond
May 18, 2025 3:13 AM

‘How a London, Ont., cricket plant found itself at the heart of an international conspiracy theory
Colin Butler 

Aug 29, 2022 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-ontario-cricket-factory-1.6562083

“The world’s largest edible cricket production facility recently wrapped up construction in London and snagged a federal grant of up to $8.5 million. Aspire Foods aims to fill a reputed multi-billion-dollar market demand for the juicy insects as an alternative source of protein to feed both humans and animals.”

‘Cricket food production facility gets $8.5 million granton: July 18, 2022

https://farmersforum.com/cricket-food-production-facility-gets-8-5-million-grant/

“Canadians themselves and their entire Parliament must decide on the future of Radio-Canada/CBC — not ideologues,” Mark Carney

‘Carney pledges $150M boost to ‘underfunded’ CBC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-cbc-funding-1.7501902

“She also points to the introduction of an AI Minister as one potential signal that Carney may be looking to automate and downsize some areas and services of the government.”

‘Southwestern Ontario shut out of federal cabinet, Western professor argues it ‘isn’t a slight’
Sean Irvine

May 13, 2025

https://www.ctvnews.ca/london/article/southwestern-ontario-shut-out-of-federal-cabinet-western-professor-argues-it-isnt-a-slight/

The Mechanism of Invisible Hand, Invisible Cage, and Invisible Empire over Humanity and Nature
Hiroyuki Hamada

February 9, 2021

https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2021/03/11/the-mechanism-of-invisible-hand-invisible-cage-and-invisible-empire-over-humanity-and-nature/

Styx – Mr. Roboto

https://youtu.be/uc6f_2nPSX8?si=q-Ml0ELgTqcXSH32

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
May 17, 2025 10:50 AM

Yes I agree its all about taking control – producing lab meat that we won’t really have a clue what’s in it is right up their street – I suppose its a bit like the Covid jags we just took their word on what they contained, and as you added – it steals another little bit of independence away from people, when they say you can’t have your own cows, then chickens and pigs – we will need to rely on what they produce to eat.

The plan is of course for them to have total control in EVERY aspect of our lives – from food to energy, medicine – travel – work communications education finance – they’ll even tell us which section of society we should hate – and what section of society we should love, infact the corporate ran MSM has already been doing this for years.

No doubt the fastfood chains will also need to buy lab meat – I’ve read that the Dutch government has made life difficult for their farmers as has Modi in India, and of course the British government upset quite few farmers recently, possibly in the hope that many farmers – will just call it a day and give up farming.

it looks like Frankenstein foods are here to stay.

Penelope
Penelope
May 17, 2025 7:26 AM

If you don’t like the way TPTB are handling our food NOW let’s give them complete control, eh? Think of the genetic mutations and infertility and who-knows-what the masters of the world could visit upon us. Talk about helpless.

Dayne
Dayne
May 16, 2025 11:33 PM

Right… Auto-generated subtitles on YouTube, in this “age of AI”, are still beyond ludicrous; you might as well ask a two-year-old to transcribe the dialogue. But I’m sure that lab-grown “meat” will be healthy and delicious and in every way good for you!

Hail
Hail
May 16, 2025 10:38 PM

Lab-grown via iVF treatment is an assisted reproductive technology (ART) where fertilization occurs outside the body, in a laboratory dish, before the resulting embryo is transferred to the uterus.

JBnID
JBnID
May 16, 2025 10:35 PM

Vegans are just mad because my food craps on their food.

Hail
Hail
May 16, 2025 10:21 PM

Is Walmart, Aldl, etc meat and fish sold in the prison death poison supermarket actually meat and fish?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:04 AM
Reply to  Hail

Dunno – haven’t bought any from a supermarket in 5 years.

The Stranger...
The Stranger...
May 16, 2025 9:52 PM

I don’t think so… If anything, growing cancer and calling it meat will cause the oncology (cancer) field to increase the need for more cancer doctors…

zymmer4
zymmer4
May 16, 2025 9:15 PM

Lab anything is suspect..I want my food to be walking about on open land, consuming what it has been eaten for milions of years..Screw LAB anything.

George Mc
George Mc
May 16, 2025 9:00 PM

I recall the days when dogs were only called upon to provide the cute “send off” at the end of the news. Now they’re required to sell you turds grown in labs.

George Mc
George Mc
May 16, 2025 8:53 PM

Don’t you just love Open University? Of course you do!

“Lab-grown meat: you may find it icky, but it could drive forward medical research”
Translated: Of course you’ll find it icky. Everyone hates it and with good reason. It’s shit! But for us, growing meat has nothing to do with feeding anyone. It has something to do with (consults notes) ah yes “driving forward medical research”. What does that mean? It means fuck all. It’s just a noise to cover up the fact that lab grown meat is a way to stop feeding people and let them starve to death.
“Lab-grown meat causes heated debates.”
No it doesn’t. “causes heated debates” is our automatic pilot padding to make it sound as if anyone has any choice. And so – cue the phony B movie script:
“… benefits for the climate and animal welfare. …. Frankenstein food they regard as risky and unnatural.”
“Whatever your opinion, the technology underpinning cultivated meat is moving fast …..”
Whatever your opinion, we don’t give a shit. “The technology” (all by itself of course) is “moving fast” etc.
Blah blah “a huge impact on medical research”.
Oh that’s good! “Lab-grown meat is a sort of engineered tissue.”
Sort of?
Next up – lots of techno porn talk: “myocytes …. adipocytes …. fibroblasts”. It’s starting to sound like a Tom Lehrer song.  “We call the meat grown in a bioreactor “cultivated meat”. Other common terms are “cultured meat”, “lab-grown meat” and “artificial meat”, and the production process is also called “cellular agriculture”.”
Sorry, I didn’t hear anything after “bioreactor”. Is that like Chernobyl?  
“Read the full article on The Conversation”

Now why does that sound like a contradiction?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:06 AM
Reply to  George Mc

And no doubt, the energy requirements for producing all this meat is less than farmers currently use?

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:45 PM

For comparison sake, has anything ever been “grown” in a Lab that wasn’t toxic? And what is the medium to make the cells so lovingly drawn from animals start to “grow?” Do they ever mention that part of the experiment – and “experiment” is precisely what it is.

“Oh let’s see if this thing we just concocted is any good,” Sci #1 says.
“But who can we test it on?” Sci #2 asks.
“Who do you think?” Sci #3 jeers.

And – Voila! – we have Lab Grown Meat.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:08 AM
Reply to  Howard

Last time I grew cells in a lab, you used ‘Foetal Bovine Serum’ to provide the growth stimuli. I’m sure these vats won’t be requiring sacrifice of bovine foetuses to eliminate grown cows from the food chain?

mgeo
mgeo
May 16, 2025 2:22 PM

The only answer that seems to satisfy is “control”. One more filtration layer
Agree. Remember, most of the methane comes from gigantic methane mining and pipelines, especially in US. Most of the nitrogen oxides come from destructive, poisonous and explitative industrual farming

Binra
Binra
May 16, 2025 1:35 PM

Humanity becomes the ‘lab cultured’ asset it thought to make of Creation – I use the term for a living wholeness rather than a mechanical model called ‘nature’.
As you judge – so are you judged.
Give (only) as you would receive.
This Law (of nature of Mind) does not dictate WHAT you choose to give reality to by accepting it – but having given and received identity will set the premise for what then follows.
Struggle within an identity-conflict must persist a mistaken identity by reaction – even at the level of seeking to manipulate identities of reaction as assets defined by enforced or coercive definitions rather than of true or lawful belonging.
Would you be hostage to the ego or host to God?
For True Cause extends true belonging – while a false sense of possession and control must defend against a ‘discarded, shadow or disowned or rejected and thus feared and demonised ‘Self’.
The self we accept, we give and vice versa.
This is by no means apparent at the level of a masking and distancing justification set in grievance, raised over presence.
Or as Orwell put it: stamped on the face of a present by a past into the future.
True Cause is not ‘in the past’ that we use to shape presentations of identity reinforcement, nor in a future requiring sacrifice of presence or life to ‘earn, achieve or be deserving of’.
But a false basis can be questioned or found questionable and thus released of status as ‘fact’.
The ego of a self imaged ‘reality’ is one with its premise and carries signature characteristics of identity-conflict or split mind no matter how ingeniously repackaged to instruments of masking diversion and deceit.
It has no power of itself -but all the power you gave it – and give it still by the tolerance for an unwatched mind aligning in ungrounded mutually reinforcing judgements running as internalised, automatic reactions set in narrative driven or mythological identities.
What is the ‘mind’ set over and apart from the objects of its judgement?
Not in truth, but in concept – given priority over living relational exchange.

“I Want It Thus!”

Tolerance for pain is not infinite, but the attempt to erase all feeling awareness can ‘buy time’ against the Timeless – as if to deny our own Existence leads to victory over life framed treacherous.

‘Let me be even as a servant in my Father’s House’ – releases the locked down ‘will’ of self imaged struggle – by choosing NOT to use it. This depends on free awareness or noticing our active desire or purpose as a point from which to pause reaction, and allow the movement of true or native curiosity to stir within us.
Discernment is within life and of life as a foundational presence that is not and cannot be manufactured, replicated or patented.

Nothing made from lies is true, but truth beneath distortions can be revealed and uncovered – by releasing the questionable basis for masking distortions of self-imaged substitution.

“And Who told you you were naked?” – speaks to a sense of self-lack far deeper than genitals though these are the physical symbol for procreation -that can be idolised and thus demonised as if the body (temptation) carries guilt for self-conflict. Hence guilt is ‘scaped or dumped to the body, to the body of others and body of world. Life reframed for GETTING, taking and murder for survival. Power taken from life by sacrifice, in place of giving and receiving life in the Living.

zmej
zmej
May 16, 2025 11:55 AM

“Why would they want to murder this cash cow?”

They want bigger cash cow. A lot bigger one. Now you cannot patent a cow, it’s God’s creation, not human.
But you can patent anything lab-grown, be it called ‘meat’, ‘vegetable’ or ‘fruit’. You can patent the process, you also do it with the product. There’s the control, and there’s the money.
But you will need to kill the farming first – we are all well aware of that.
As for someone owning and taking care of animals, I do not think there are many people that know how to do that properly. It’s not a simple job and one has to love it. Like my late grandfather allegedly said to my aunt and her husband many years ago – “Don’t you dare taking animals!”. They did, though.
And, farming and having animals can always be made illegal, we are seeing that too.
And even if it’s legal, the authorities can always kill ALL your animals for whatever reason they want (chicken flu – your hens gone, african plague – your pigs and sheep gone, sky is the limit there). Several years ago farmers markets in my country were closed for a month, maybe, I do not recall correctly, for some awkward reason, just before Christmas.

Elongated Muskrat
Elongated Muskrat
May 18, 2025 10:34 AM
Reply to  zmej

If farm produce is available who’s going to eat the shit the scientists come up with…

Kieran_JP
Kieran_JP
May 16, 2025 11:26 AM

The linked Scotsman article … boy oh boy! I cannot comprehend how someone can write the below and not read it back pre-publication without realising how ridiculous it sounds(!):
 

And that really is the thing: cultivated meat is real meat, only produced differently, from samples of cells taken from eggs or living animals using a harmless biopsy and then grown in a bioreactor.

 
In short, it’s totally the same as real meat guys it’s just developed in a bioreactor 😂

George Mc
George Mc
May 16, 2025 9:09 PM
Reply to  Kieran_JP

In the same way that “transwomen” are women?

Kieran_JP
Kieran_JP
May 17, 2025 6:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Exactly. I was being sarcastic re: the “real” meat.

qwertboi
qwertboi
May 16, 2025 10:32 AM

Lab-grown meat may be up to 25 times worse for the climate than real beef due to the energy-intensive purification processes required for growth media.

The process of producing lab-grown meat involves extracting animal cells and cultivating them in an energy-intensive “controlled environment”.

https://www.sciencealert.com/lab-grown-meat-has-a-big-problem-very-few-people-know-about

In terms of health and safety – ie,contamination and the use of antibiotics. The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) have identified 53 potential health hazards related to lab-grown meat production.

<a href=”https://meatthefacts.eu/home/activity/beyond-the-headlines/lab-grown-meat-53-hazards-identified-by-fao-who/”> Lab-grown meat: 53 health hazards identified by UN & WHO</a>

The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
May 16, 2025 2:17 PM
Reply to  qwertboi

Gosh, it’s a bit like how A.I. is incredibly energy intensive but they’re ploughing ahead with it anyway while still talking about energy scarcity and “saving the planet”.

P.S. Two months of bright, sunny weather in the U.K. – how long before “drought” becomes the big MSM story?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:14 AM

Heaviest early snow in ages in Australia. June snow in Siberia. Cold spring/early summer in Eastern Europe/Western Russia.

That certainly won’t be the headlines.

They happened though.

a man called james
a man called james
May 16, 2025 9:51 AM

‘They’ push anything and everything that is against nature and against human health. Grass fed beef is the healthiest most nutrient dense food available for humans.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 16, 2025 10:42 AM

It doesnt matter whether it is healthy for humans. What matter is if it is healthy for our planet! If the planet slay’s off, your humans are done!! That’s why we are doing it!

Pyewacket
Pyewacket
May 16, 2025 7:44 AM

In the UK there is now a legal requirement to keep Chickens for any number less than 50 birds.

Pyewacket
Pyewacket
May 16, 2025 9:55 AM
Reply to  Pyewacket

Apologies: legal requirement “to have a License” even for just one bird

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 16, 2025 10:43 AM
Reply to  Pyewacket

Link?

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:01 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Sorry, but “links” are for sissies. Suppose, e.g., I make a statement here and link to something in Substack. And suppose that something in Substack is my own blog. So I would be linking to my own opinion. Screw the links: try and make what you say self-evident and no link is needed.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 18, 2025 11:37 PM
Reply to  Howard

‘Legal requirement’!
How can you make a self-evident comment about a postulate of a UK Law in force? A link to the law in question would be natural.

As you cannot find any reference to the said, I will take the liberty to label this comment as fake news.

Elze
Elze
May 16, 2025 7:06 AM

If you want to learn everything about lab-grown meat – how incredebly expensive, toxic and resources intensive it is, and possible agenda’s behind it – here is the Solari indepth research on it:
Pharma Food.
Biotech on your plate: The next chapter in big money’s battle to end food sovereignity
https://solari.com/pharma-food-with-elze-van-hamelen/

Interview about the report:
https://thenewamerican.com/video/elze-van-hamelen-assault-on-food-sovereignty-with-toxic-pharma-food/

Zane
Zane
May 16, 2025 5:09 AM

Most people already live in a McWorld – a synthetic pseudoreality filled with propaganda and nonsense churned out by Netflix, H’wood, and YooTube algorithms. Listen to how they talk and act. Mental zombies.

tuah
tuah
May 16, 2025 3:36 AM

You don’t have to wait for the lab results, when you can know it’s manure by the smell

Pimper’s Paradise…Thank you Bob

Sea Forest’s SeaFeed product is a natural seaweed supplement formulated from the evolving science of the native red seaweed, asparagopsis that when added to cattle feed, reduces methane emissions by up to 67pc. Methane, a potent greenhouse gas, is 84 times more effective at trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide, which made its reduction vital in the fight against climate change.

More

https://www.beefcentral.com/news/asparagopsis-fed-low-methane-beef-on-restaurant-menus-for-first-time/
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https://www.seaforest.com.au/investor-centre

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 2:52 AM

Hmm, cannibalism might also be part of the sustainability agenda. After all, why waste a scrumptious cadaver. 😁🤑😁

underground poet
underground poet
May 16, 2025 3:13 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Well digestion issues for one, except for a gator, somehow, no critter is dumb enough to eat it own species.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 3:52 AM

It’ll be marketed as a delicious nutritious soylent green smoothie. 🤢😁 Amazon will “drone” deliver it within moments once the order is placed. 🤑🤑🤑

antonym
antonym
May 16, 2025 6:40 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Logical AI would agree but the woke would be irrationally selective…

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 11:07 AM
Reply to  antonym

You’d have a choice of flavors. The very health conscious might consider the “mostly” vegan selection. 😁

chucky
chucky
May 16, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Soylent green  😐 

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 11:15 AM
Reply to  chucky

And why not, it’s less trouble than animal husbandry. This food supply you can work to death, economically exploit, experiment on, and ultimately recycle as a profitable food source.🤑🤑🤑

mgeo
mgeo
May 16, 2025 3:16 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Currently, only the underclass trying to survive on the lowest pay and recycled like garbage through the private prison system are close. They are are not being eated yet.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 6:05 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Prison meat won’t be considered premier. It’ll only be carried at convenience stores or perhaps McDonald’s. The better quality stuff will be found at Whole Foods. 😁

chucky
chucky
May 16, 2025 3:27 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

sci – fi becoming real

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
May 16, 2025 5:21 PM
Reply to  chucky

It othen happens. Although truth is stranger than fiction. 😶

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 16, 2025 2:46 AM

The right response is to challenge the premise: that “green house gasses” are causing global warming and indeed that Climate Change (TM) is anything more than another doom and gloom state religion. It is not real. Therefore reducing carbon is meaningless. In fact, plants grow faster when there’s more CO2 in the atmosphere. Therefore, lab-grown meat is obviously a scam.

http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2007/02/global-warming-truth-or-dare.html

As Dr John Ioannidis demonstrated in his famous paper of 2005 “Why Most Published Research Findings Are False” (lack of proper controls, conflicts of interests, inability to replicate the findings etc), we should rather be skeptical of The Science TM too.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

Rather than nip at the edges of their narratives, blow them apart.

This is also why the rejection of virology is key.

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:11 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

When you blow apart a narrative, you could end up with vast quantities of egg on your face. BTW, you don’t blow a narrative apart by simply calling it false.

Besides which, rapid growth is not necessarily a sign of health in a plant. Plants need water as well as CO2. But try growing healthy plants in a flood. Too much of even a good thing can be bad. And under certain conditions – temperatures in excess of 104 F – plants shut down their stomata and cannot uptake CO2.

Respiration is every bit as complicated in plants as it is in animals.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 16, 2025 4:16 PM
Reply to  Howard

My Hat’s off to you Howard, that’s about as inane a response as I can imagine.

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2025 4:02 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Thank you. Sometimes, if it’s something I’m not certain of, I’ll spend 10 or even 15 minutes double checking my facts before hitting “Post Comment.” How inane is that!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:23 AM
Reply to  Howard

Different plants haver different tolerances. That’s why you plant pioneer trees first in a desert restoration scheme: they are best at seeking out limiting water, tolerate the burning sun and provide shade for more tolerant species in the underlayer.

When the pioneers have done their job, ground cover and mulch reducing water evaporation from the soil, they are replaced with trees yielding a crop.

Desert restoration schemes start with bare land and daily maxima of 50C and more……this is now established environmental knowhow reduced to reproducible practice.

Dayne
Dayne
May 16, 2025 11:46 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Or just boycott all the imaginary stuff that the chattering classes preoccupy themselves with 24/7. Do I really want to be on top of what some politician or celebrity tweeted yesterday; it’s all fake and vapid theater. Going for a walk, praying, or just sitting on my balcony and watching the sunset is time and attention 1,000 times better spent. Likewise, these anti-human agendas that keep unfolding will likely eradicate most of us; so be it. Do we want to spend the time that’s left breathlessly analyzing and scrutinizing everything? Let the world be deceived.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 17, 2025 1:11 AM
Reply to  Dayne

Fair enough. But how do you know when something that most take for granted is in fact a carefully constructed lie, fabricated and disseminated over decades? And not just a lie, but used as a justification for limiting your freedom, lowering your standard of living, and directly poisoning you? I think I have I pretty good bullshit detectors, and I saw thru the Covid scam by the end of March 2020. But I used to believe in the whole global warming/Climate Change bullshit narrative – so I do my homework now.

“The ruling ideas are, in every epoch, the ideas of the ruling class.”
-a 19th Century philosopher

antonym
antonym
May 16, 2025 2:07 AM

Good luck trying that in the biggest present butcher ideology, rampant in the ME and parts of Asia, Africa and Europe. Their bloodletting ritual is occult part of the meme: very weak in rationality but strong in emotional enforcement. The Americas were luckier as the Spanish conquistadors wiped out the bloody human sacrifice religion in Central America in their lust for gold and their cross, helped by a few diseases in return for syphilis.

antonym
antonym
May 16, 2025 2:00 AM

The Rockefellers bought a world problem with C02 from some Club of Rome “scientists”: they got what they wanted: a COntrol tool on the plebs. COv2 was a later project.
CH4 is a bullshit addition, but reintroduction of consensus politics into real Science makes that stink away, specially if you run all world MSM. Back to the Middle Ages, where the Popes and Mullahs enforced the flat Earth meme in consensus. Even then heretics like Columbus existed.

Too many cattle are a different problem: overgrazing of (ex) forest land. Easy solution: leave natural meat eating to growning up teenagers who actually need it. Give milk etc to the rest. No need for any micro control AI net.

Pete S
Pete S
May 16, 2025 9:30 AM
Reply to  antonym

Overgrazing is a land management issue, not a too many cattle issue.

When managed with Holistic Management (AKA time controled grazing), herd sizes can increase, while regenerating the land at the same time, it’s probably THE best solution for land regeneration, logisically and economically.

See The Savory Institute

Holistic Management has been successfully implemented on nearly 29 million hectares (75 million acres) across more than 20,000 trained farmers, ranchers, and pastoralists. It is successful because it is a cost-effective, highly scalable, and a nature-based solution. It is sustainable because it increases land productivity, livestock stocking rates, and profits.

les online
les online
May 16, 2025 1:46 AM

layperson: “Men eat more red meat than women do.”
Scientist: “Men eat 10% more red meat than women do.” ***

As any good housewife will tell you, ‘You’ve gotta feed your man
red meat if you wanna getta good romp with him.”

*** Always use percentages if you want to sex-up your data, and
sound Sciencey…. You’ll find fewer people will challenge your
claims when they’re spiced with Percentages…

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
May 16, 2025 1:06 AM

So ‘the final goal’ is about making everything we experience, including eating, fake? Hardly; what’s ‘fake’ about the reality of lab-grown meat, of deadly mMRNA, of genocide in Palestine, and of the growing technocratic tyranny and control of the NWO?

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 16, 2025 12:30 AM

Also- 1 in 5 Europeans vegetarian? Rubbish, not even the French

les online
les online
May 16, 2025 1:48 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Escargots must be vegetable ?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 16, 2025 12:26 AM

Cows farting jeopardizing our planet and environment. Can anyone explain what is going on inside a sick person’s brain promoting this ridiculous absurd postulate???

Arent we all humans? Ability to feel the rain, the sun, a walk. Isnt it only psychos (a minority I suppose) who are able to pour utter lies out of their mouth?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:31 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

It’s all about power. ‘We know what’s best for you’.

The vast majority of my relatives are just like that. Wedded to the Labour ideologies, believe the BBC and The Guardian, make out Bill Gates is ‘the best of a bad bunch’, but constantly make out like their opinions should be relevant to me AND that my life should be controlled by them but theirs has nothing to do with me.

All are ignorant of realities, but skilled liars, mainly because they are not even aware they are lying.

All are recruited into the ‘we can hack your electronics and let you know that we are’.

All believe in global heating, all live lives of Riley. consuming carbon to their hearts’ content.

Johnny
Johnny
May 16, 2025 12:13 AM

The Pandemic industry is being enshrined. On our behalf no less.
Pull the other one you Turds:

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-pandemic-agreement-symbolic-consolidation-of-a-new-pandemic-industry/

Johnny
Johnny
May 16, 2025 12:05 AM

Sorry, off topic, but the US and it’s citizens calling itself/themselves is ‘America’ and ’Americans’ is simply incorrect and imperialist:

https://dissidentvoice.org/2025/05/despite-setbacks-latin-americas-long-history-of-anti-imperialism-continues/

Johnny
Johnny
May 16, 2025 12:06 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Delete first ‘is’.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 16, 2025 12:05 AM

I just don’t buy it (even more intentional pun). How can animals strolling about the place be more climate changing than a factory using artificial power and built using artificial power to convert chemicals made by a factory using artificial power and transported using…you know where I’m going. It’s impossible.

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:21 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Once again, Ayn Rand was on the mark here: “Never bother to examine a folly, simply ask who profits from it.” And who profits from the farm animal scare is precisely the huge threats to climate and every thing else on Earth.

Modern man has reached a point – a very low point – where cow farts are disgusting while smoke belching from a factory is barely noticed.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
May 16, 2025 12:01 AM

The element of control is an important one for the folks pushing these products, but don’t underestimate how much they hate nature and the organic world. It’s messy, filthy, and wasteful, and the ultimate goal is to control Nature in its totality, including us humans.

Johnny
Johnny
May 15, 2025 11:56 PM

As if a raw chicken nugget looks any more appealing Kit.

Hung, beheaded, suffering, sliced and diced.
Hundreds of millions every single year.
No wonder we have wars.

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:25 PM
Reply to  Johnny

In a documentary titled “Baraka,” there’s a scene inside a factory hatchery where women on an assembly line are removing all the male chicks and tossing them into a grinder. Humanity is the scourge of the universe.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 15, 2025 11:46 PM

While we are fussing over protein intake and sources, World Central Kitchen Halts Aid Operations in Gaza Due To Israeli Blockade
Israel has not allowed any goods to enter Gaza for more than 60 days.
The World Central Kitchen (WCK), a US-based charity, said on Wednesday that it was forced to shut down aid operations in Gaza due to the total Israeli blockade on the Palestinian territory.

“After serving more than 130 million total meals and 26 million loaves of bread over the past 18 months, World Central Kitchen no longer has the supplies to cook meals or bake bread in Gaza,” the WCK said in a statement on its website.

“Our trucks—loaded with food and supplies—are waiting in Egypt, Jordan and Israel, ready to enter Gaza,” said José Andrés, a celebrity chef who founded WCK. “But they cannot move without permission. Humanitarian aid must be allowed to flow.”

UN aid agencies have also said they have thousands of trucks ready to bring food into Gaza, but Israel has maintained the blockade, with US backing, even as children are beginning to starve to death.
At least 11 WCK workers have been killed by Israeli attacks since October 7, 2023. The most notorious attack occurred on April 1, 2024, when an Israeli drone fired missiles at three clearly-marked cars carrying WCK employees.

Meanwhile, China supposedly did an airdrop of food over Palestine using unmanned balloons. I didn’t save the video link and can’t verify the veracity of this. However, wouldn’t that be a good idea for western countries? Couldn’t Elon Musk divert its thousands of satellite balloons to carrying food parcels to the region instead?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
May 16, 2025 12:18 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

On the good news side, Trump made a deal with the Houthis. They dont shoot at US ships and Trump stop bombing Yemen. Why?
Due to a sharp 1 month milestone to Pentagon and Co made by Trump. Make result in Yemen or stop getting more funds.
The Houthi’s hit back causing huge losses for US in that month. Therefore the deal.

Liberals, Democrats and Israel outraged and disappointed. Had hoped more US tax $$$ would have been shovelled down the drain.

Johnny
Johnny
May 16, 2025 1:02 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Satan lives in Israel.

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2025 4:28 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Or vice-versa.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 15, 2025 11:11 PM

First up, an excess in protein intake is at least partly driving the obesity, diabetes and cancer epidemic worldwide. We in the West are certainly not in any danger of being protein starved. In the UK, the reference protein intake per day is 0.75 g/kg/body weight. For a 60kg adult that’s 45 grams of protein. Harvard Health states the optimal protein intake is 10% of the total daily calories for a relatively active adult. However, the majority of Westerners are fairly sedentary, wouldn’t you agree?

I believe the high-protein hype is driven by the mega meat, dairy and egg industry, not by the mega legume, nuts&seeds, wholegrain, mushroom or broccoli industry.

Second, we don’t need lab-grown meat when we have such a wide choice of plant-based protein sources. Sure, just eating potato, pasta and lettuce won’t make the cut but then ignorant eating habits are pretty prevalent among animal protein eaters too. In fact, the latter make up the vast majority of chronically sick and overweight/obese people, even accounting for a calculation based on a per 100,000 cases.

Johnny
Johnny
May 15, 2025 11:48 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Perfectly and accurately stated Veri. Nuff said.

antonym
antonym
May 16, 2025 2:12 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Al good but B12 needed.

Johnny
Johnny
May 16, 2025 3:51 AM
Reply to  antonym

Minuscule amounts.
B12 is on your ORGANIC leafy greens.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 16, 2025 10:19 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Not sure about that any more – see my reply to antonym above.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 16, 2025 10:18 PM
Reply to  antonym

You’re right there.

I suspect, but can’t find evidence, that humans once could synthesize B12 via a healthy gut microbiome, back when plant foods available were still growing on soils with a healthy microbiome. Nowadays soils have been spoilt by industrial farming with their toxic sprays, as well as monoculture farming and soil exhaustion.

These are also the reasons why it’s wise for all people to supplement our foods not just with vitamin B12…

Zane
Zane
May 16, 2025 5:14 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Only carbs make people fat. End of.

Johnny
Johnny
May 17, 2025 8:16 AM
Reply to  Zane

And only animal fat clogs your arteries and is carcinogenic in your intestines.

les online
les online
May 15, 2025 10:44 PM

President Trump, US Traveling Salesman going door-to-door
selling US weapons… (Basic salary, with commissions ?)…

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
May 16, 2025 2:19 AM
Reply to  les online

Did Bush, Biden and Obama do any different?

underground poet
underground poet
May 16, 2025 3:20 AM
Reply to  les online

We secretly moved into a war economy a few years ago, they said it was good for the GDP.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:36 AM

A few years ago? A few decades ago, more like.

les online
les online
May 15, 2025 10:26 PM

I dont know what chicken nuggets or even fish fingers are made of.
I know chickens dont lay nuggets, and fish dont have fingers (though
i expect little billy gate’s genetic engineers are working on it)… I do
know that the nine grains added to a locally produced wholemeal loaf
are neither nutritional nor digestible, they’re ‘industrial waste’, grains
which cant otherwise be profitably exploited…
But, just claim something is ‘healthy’ and people will buy it…

mgeo
mgeo
May 16, 2025 3:24 PM
Reply to  les online

It is undemoctatic and maybe Communist to question these matters. The Greatest Democracy has laws to lock up those who spy on industrial farming and food production.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
May 15, 2025 9:47 PM

Never did I think we might be ‘lab-grown’, till that recently..
Pigs and apes cant breed, even if theyre cross.
If you ignore history, you are mostly right.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
May 15, 2025 9:48 PM

mostly

les online
les online
May 16, 2025 11:54 AM

What’s ‘mostly’ in percentages ?
Be Sciency, use percentages !!

Tamim
Tamim
May 15, 2025 9:36 PM

“I’m not sure it’s possible to overstate how much of the post-Covid agenda is about an all-out assault on reality, with the final goal of making almost everything people experience – even down to the food they eat – fake.”

Once more, for those at the back (me) –

1. Why? Why strive to turn us Proles into, well… caged hens?
2. Who is ultimately pulling the strings here? And how do they benefit from this?

Kit – care to offer some answers?

Shipinthenight
Shipinthenight
May 15, 2025 11:31 PM
Reply to  Tamim

Seriously?

One word: control. Have two words: complete control.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:48 AM
Reply to  Tamim

Start with William Gates III and expand your horizons from there….

Blessthebeasts
Blessthebeasts
May 15, 2025 9:21 PM

Headline is very misleading. Also, there’s no need for humans to eat “meat” lab-grown or otherwise….

Jay
Jay
May 15, 2025 9:15 PM

Theosophists don’t eat meat
Wasn’t Hitler a vegetarian? 🤔

Johnny
Johnny
May 15, 2025 11:52 PM
Reply to  Jay

That old chestnut (Pun very much intended).

chucky
chucky
May 16, 2025 3:33 PM
Reply to  Jay

only for the last 5 years of his life and his health was already in decline but he did comment that in the future we would all be veggies

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
May 15, 2025 9:04 PM

“Environmentally” Fuck. These people are crazy. Not talking figuratively. Literally. Fucking crazy.

Aloysius
Aloysius
May 15, 2025 8:17 PM

Lab-grown meat is an excellent reason to become a vegetarian.

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
May 15, 2025 9:26 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

….not if you don’t like Meat, repulsive tasting, imo.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 26, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Aloysius

Lab grown meat, AI and ‘bitcoin farming’ are al completely incompatible with ‘Net Zero’.

Not that that ever mattered to the criminals running their mafias.

Hornbach
Hornbach
May 15, 2025 6:53 PM

I don’t believe that one in five Europeans are vegetarians (I know very few) and if they are it is not for the reasons mentioned (“cruelty against the animals”) but just for their own diet, trying to loose weight or thinking that it’s “healthier”.
About lab-grown meat, it is like with the electric cars: as long as they exist but without removing the competition by dictate (natural farming or petrol / diesel cars) it is ok with me, there will be always people trying to select other things. The problem seems to be exactly as Kit put it : control by the corporations and maximum profit.

Aloysius
Aloysius
May 15, 2025 8:16 PM
Reply to  Hornbach

Lose.

Hornbach
Hornbach
May 17, 2025 11:48 AM
Reply to  Aloysius

Thank you ! Fat fingers 😁

Chris
Chris
May 15, 2025 6:41 PM

A hundred years ago, German writer Alfred Doblin depicted the invention of Synthetic Food and its dreadful consequences for human and social health in his dystopian 27th century epic Mountains Oceans Giants.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
May 15, 2025 6:36 PM

That lab grown chicken nugget would make an excellent suppository for this Professor O’Neil. Why use the entire alimentary canal?