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Trump’s Palantir-Powered Surveillance Is Turning America Into a Digital Prison

John & Nisha Whitehead

We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission.”
Ayn Rand

Call it what it is: a panopticon presidency. President Trump’s plan to fuse government power with private surveillance tech to build a centralized, national citizen database is the final step in transforming America from a constitutional republic into a digital dictatorship armed with algorithms and powered by unaccountable, all-seeing artificial intelligence.

This isn’t about national security. It’s about control.

According to news reports, the Trump administration is quietly collaborating with Palantir Technologies—the data-mining behemoth co-founded by billionaire Peter Thiel—to construct a centralized, government-wide surveillance system that would consolidate biometric, behavioral, and geolocation data into a single, weaponized database of Americans’ private information.

This isn’t about protecting freedom. It’s about rendering freedom obsolete.

What we’re witnessing is the transformation of America into a digital prison—one where the inmates are told we’re free while every move, every word, every thought is monitored, recorded, and used to assign a “threat score” that determines our place in the new hierarchy of obedience.

This puts us one more step down the road to China’s dystopian system of social credit scores and Big Brother surveillance.

The tools enabling this all-seeing surveillance regime are not new, but under Trump’s direction, they are being fused together in unprecedented ways—with Palantir at the center of this digital dragnet.

Palantir, long criticized for its role in powering ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) raids and predictive policing, is now poised to become the brain of Trump’s surveillance regime.

Under the guise of “data integration” and “public safety,” this public-private partnership would deploy AI-enhanced systems to comb through everything from facial recognition feeds and license plate readers to social media posts and cellphone metadata—cross-referencing it all to assess a person’s risk to the state.

Palantir’s software has already been used to assist ICE in locating, arresting, and deporting undocumented immigrants, often relying on vast surveillance data sets aggregated from multiple sources. In New Orleans, the company secretly partnered with local police to run a predictive policing program without public knowledge or oversight, targeting individuals flagged as likely to commit crimes based on social networks and past behaviors—not actual wrongdoing.

This isn’t speculative. It’s already happening.

Palantir’s Gotham platform, used by law enforcement and military agencies, has long been the backbone of real-time tracking and predictive analysis. Now, with Trump’s backing, it threatens to become the central nervous system of a digitally enforced authoritarianism.

As Palantir itself admits, its mission is to “augment human decision-making.” In practice, that means replacing probable cause with probability scores, courtrooms with code, and due process with data pipelines.

In this new regime, your innocence will be irrelevant. The algorithm will decide who you are.

To understand the full danger of this moment, we must trace the long arc of government surveillance—from secret intelligence programs like COINTELPRO to today’s AI-driven digital dragnet embodied by data fusion centers.

The threat posed by today’s surveillance state did not emerge overnight. The groundwork was laid decades ago through covert government programs such as COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Program), launched by the FBI in the 1950s and continuing through the 1970s. Its explicit mission was to “disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” political dissidents, including civil rights leaders, Vietnam War protesters, and Black liberation groups.

Under COINTELPRO, federal agents infiltrated lawful organizations, spread misinformation, blackmailed targets, and conducted warrantless surveillance.

Though exposed and publicly condemned by Congress, the spirit of COINTELPRO never died—it merely went underground and digital.

Post-9/11 legislation like the USA PATRIOT Act provided legal cover for mass surveillance, allowing intelligence agencies to collect phone records, monitor internet activity, and build profiles on American citizens without meaningful oversight. Fusion centers, initially conceived to coordinate counterterrorism efforts, became clearinghouses for domestic spying, facilitating data-sharing between federal agencies and local police.

Today, this infrastructure has merged with the tools of Big Tech.

With Palantir and similar firms at the helm, the government can now watch more people, more closely, for more arbitrary reasons than ever before. Dissent is once again being criminalized. Free expression is being categorized as extremism. And citizens—without ever committing a crime—can be flagged, tracked, and punished by an invisible digital bureaucracy that operates with impunity.

Building on this foundation of historical abuse, the government has evolved its tactics, replacing human informants with algorithms and wiretaps with metadata, ushering in an age where pre-crime prediction is treated as prosecution.

In the age of AI, your digital footprint is enough to convict you—not in a court of law, but in the court of preemptive suspicion.

Every smartphone ping, GPS coordinate, facial scan, online purchase, and social media like becomes part of your “digital exhaust”—a breadcrumb trail of metadata that the government now uses to build behavioral profiles. The FBI calls it “open-source intelligence.” But make no mistake: this is dragnet surveillance, and it is fundamentally unconstitutional.

Already, government agencies are mining this data to generate “pattern of life” analyses, flag “radicalized” individuals, and preemptively investigate those who merely share anti-government views. Whistleblowers have revealed that the FBI has flagged individuals as potential threats based on their internet search history, social media posts, religious beliefs, or associations with activist groups.

In a growing number of cases, individuals have found themselves visited by agents simply for attending a protest, making a political post, or appearing on the “wrong” side of a digital algorithm.

This is not law enforcement. This is thought-policing by machine.

The FBI has developed detailed dossiers on individuals based not on criminal activity, but on constitutionally protected expression—flagging citizens for visiting alternative media websites, criticizing government policies, or supporting causes deemed “extreme.”

According to leaked memos and internal documents, terms like “liberty,” “sovereignty,” and even the Gadsden flag have been cited as potential indicators of domestic extremism. In one case, a peaceful protester was interrogated for merely using encrypted messaging apps. In another, churchgoers were surveilled because their religious leader spoke critically of the government.

These are the logical outcome of a system that criminalizes dissent and deputizes algorithms to do the targeting.

Nor is this entirely new.

For decades, the federal government has reportedly maintained a highly classified database known as Main Core, designed to collect and store information on Americans deemed potential threats to national security.

Investigative journalists have revealed that Main Core may contain data on millions of individuals—compiled without warrants or due process—for potential use during a national emergency. As Tim Shorrock reported for Salon, “One former intelligence official described Main Core as ‘an emergency internal security database system’ designed for use by the military in the event of a national catastrophe, a suspension of the Constitution or the imposition of martial law.”

Trump’s embrace of Palantir, and its unparalleled ability to fuse surveillance feeds, social media metadata, public records, and AI-driven predictions, marks a dangerous evolution: a modern-day resurrection of Main Core, digitized, centralized, and fully automated.

What was once covert contingency planning is now becoming active policy.

What has emerged is a surveillance model more vast than anything dreamed up by past regimes—a digital panopticon in which every citizen becomes both observed and self-regulating.

Imagine a society in which every citizen is watched constantly, and every move is logged in a government database.

Imagine a state where facial recognition cameras scan your face at protests and concerts, where your car’s location is tracked by automatic license plate readers, where your biometric data is captured by drones, and where AI programs assign you a “threat assessment” score based on your behavior, opinions, associations, and even your purchases.

This is not science fiction. This is America—now.

This is the panopticon brought to life: a circular prison designed so that inmates never know when they are being watched, and thus must behave as if they always are. Jeremy Bentham’s original vision has become the model of modern-day governance: total visibility, zero accountability.

Our every move is being monitored, our every word recorded, our every action judged and categorized—not by humans, but by machines without conscience, without compassion, and without constitutional limits.

And in this surveillance state, the people have become inventory. Lives reduced to data points. Choices reduced to algorithms. Freedom reduced to a permission slip. You are no longer the customer. You are the product.

In this new reality, we are not only watched—we are measured, categorized, and sold back to the very systems that enslave us.

We are no longer free citizens.

We are data points in a digital control grid—commodified, categorized, and exploited.

In this new digital economy, our lives have become profit centers for corporations that track, trade, and monetize our every move.

The surveillance state is powered not only by authoritarian government impulses but by a corporate ecosystem that sees no distinction between the marketplace and the public square.

We are being bought and sold, not as citizens with rights, but as consumers to be studied and shaped.

Our autonomy is being eroded by design, not by accident.

This modern surveillance state knows everything about you—where you go, what you buy, what you read, who you associate with—and it uses that information to predict your behavior, shape your preferences, and ultimately control your actions.

Your phone is tracking you.

Your car is tracking you.

Your smart TV, internet searches, and digital assistant—all of it is being harvested to feed a growing network of AI-powered surveillance.

Even your refrigerator and your doorbell are reporting on you.

Every electronic device you use, every online transaction you make, every move you make through a smart city grid, adds another data point to your profile.

This is the machinery of oppression, and it is being refined daily.

The difference between past regimes and the one being constructed now is its subtlety. Today’s totalitarianism doesn’t come with jackboots and secret police. It comes with convenience. With apps. With “national security” justifications. With the illusion of safety.

As in the dystopian world of Soylent Green, where the individual is reduced to a consumable product of the system, today’s surveillance state treats Americans not as citizens but as data points to be harvested, scored, and fed back into the machine of control.

We are no longer governed—we are managed.

It is no less dangerous—just more efficient.

The tragedy, however, is that most Americans don’t see the bars being built around them, because the architecture of tyranny is disguised as convenience and cloaked in comfort.

Most Americans are still asleep to the danger. They live in a prison masquerading as paradise, where surveillance is sold as safety, compliance is branded as patriotism, and convenience has become the currency of captivity.

We have been conditioned to love our servitude, to decorate our cells with apps and smart devices, and to mistake technological dependency for freedom.

The prison walls are invisible, the bars digital, the guards automated.

We are inmates in a high-tech prison, lulled by convenience and pacified by illusion. We carry our tracking devices in our pockets. We whisper our secrets into microphones embedded in our own devices. We voluntarily surrender our privacy to digital overlords.

Meanwhile, those who dare question this system—journalists, whistleblowers, dissidents—are silenced, surveilled, and punished. All under color of law.

Consider:

This is predictive policing turned preemptive prosecution. It is the very definition of a surveillance state.

As this technological tyranny expands, the foundational safeguards of the Constitution—those supposed bulwarks against arbitrary power—are quietly being nullified and its protections rendered meaningless.

What does the Fourth Amendment mean in a world where your entire life can be searched, sorted, and scored without a warrant? What does the First Amendment mean when expressing dissent gets you flagged as an extremist? What does the presumption of innocence mean when algorithms determine guilt?

The Constitution was written for humans—not for machine rule. It cannot compete with predictive analytics trained to bypass rights, sidestep accountability, and automate tyranny.

And that is the endgame: the automation of authoritarianism. An unblinking, AI-powered surveillance regime that renders due process obsolete and dissent fatal.

Still, it is not too late to resist—but doing so requires awareness, courage, and a willingness to confront the machinery of our own captivity.

Make no mistake: the government is not your friend in this. Neither are the corporations building this digital prison. They thrive on your data, your fear, and your silence.

To resist, we must first understand the weaponized AI tools being used against us.

We must demand transparency, enforce limits on data collection, ban predictive profiling, and dismantle the fusion centers feeding this machine.

We must treat AI surveillance with the same suspicion we once reserved for secret police. Because that is what AI-powered governance has become—secret police—only smarter, faster, and less accountable.

We must stop cooperating with our captors. Stop consenting to our own control. Stop feeding the surveillance machine with our data, our time, and our trust.

We don’t have much time.

Trump’s alliance with Palantir is a warning sign—not just of where we are, but of where we’re headed. A place where freedom is conditional, rights are revocable, and justice is decided by code.

The question is no longer whether we’re being watched—that is now a given—but whether we will meekly accept it. Will we dismantle this electronic concentration camp, or will we continue building the infrastructure of our own enslavement?

As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, if we trade liberty for convenience and privacy for security, we will find ourselves locked in a prison we helped build, and the bars won’t be made of steel. They will be made of data.

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]. Nisha Whitehead is the Executive Director of The Rutherford Institute. Information about The Rutherford Institute is available at www.rutherford.org.

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Aloysius
Aloysius
Jun 8, 2025 6:22 AM

What if the above is AI and the guy below who bangs on about it being AI is AI. And I am AI. It makes my artificial head hurt.

T.S.
T.S.
Jun 6, 2025 7:54 PM

I can’t hear this AI wil kill/enlave/fuck us all bullshit, you “the sky is falling” bunch are becoming as boring as the techbro’s, you really all believe in this AI bullshit don’t you ? tech as the new religion ? no matter if it is god or satan to you, you still fall for the same religious crap. This whole AI thing is just the advertising department in overdrive.

most western countries are hellbent to completely destroy their energy infrastructure (germany, spain and UK have theirs already destroyed, they are propably already over the cliff, they just haven’t hit the ground yet, yet you believe they will be able establish a powerhungry total surveillance infrastructure

Howard
Howard
Jun 7, 2025 4:14 PM
Reply to  T.S.

When they tool AI to identify, track and kill designated targets (as in Israel), it’s a bit iffy to dismiss talk of the dangers of AI as “bullshit.” Some fears are indeed misplaced – such as the fear of electric cars: no one – yet – is forced to buy or ride in an electric car.

But AI, as engineered into things like Palantir, is not subject to individual consumer choice. It’s being put in place (at least in the US) without any input from the people. Nor is it the kind of system that can be sold to the public as beneficial or entertaining. It’s one and only reason for being is enslavement. And the fact that it’s already proven its nefarious intention in Israel lets us know they’re not kidding.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 6, 2025 5:35 PM

Per David Hughes:
I am pleased to announce the release this week of The Agenda: Their Vision, Your Future, by Oracle Films.
It offers a superb critique of the UN’s Agenda 2030 and the totalitarian global control system that is being deceptively rolled out under its auspices.

https://dhughes.substack.com/p/the-agenda-their-vision-your-future?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=594370&post_id=165256156&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_content=watch_now_button&r=bbdrv&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Howard
Howard
Jun 6, 2025 4:40 PM

The time to slow technology down came and went long ago. The mythical Ned Ludd and his Luddites should have become the prototype of all protest; but they didn’t. And now we have Palantir – the technology used by Israel to track and kill Palestinians.

Like the Whiteheads said, don’t look for Jackboots breaking down your door to get you. Look instead for the AI stalking you. Perhaps that unexpected “fire” in your coffee maker was not an accident but an AI attack. Or your alarm clock exploding while you sleep. Or your TV sending out electromagnetic rays while you watch the Evening News.

Right now, millions of people are thanking God for Palantir because it is helping to round up and deport “illegal” immigrants. After all, the ICE is merely an adjunct of AI surveillance. What the million man moronic horde doesn’t yet get – but will – is that once all the “illegals” are sent packing and the countries of the West are once again “safe,” AI will start looking for more it deems “illegal” to round up and send packing.

The only “good” technology is a dead technology.

antonym
antonym
Jun 6, 2025 10:57 AM

Palentir’s stock recently went 7.77% down…

Trump is being off tracked by the $wamp by wading in the same DC hole.

A weaker US = CIA-State is a good thing for the rest of the universe, so let it happen.

antonym
antonym
Jun 6, 2025 10:58 AM
Reply to  antonym

Good counter to the CCP implosion.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 6, 2025 10:24 AM

Unless you live in a war zone, a US suburban ghetto, or a third world industrial area, the glass IS half full:

https://www.scienceandfreedom.org/articles/smell-the-roses-positive-trends-and-western-accomplishments/

Really?

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 6, 2025 7:46 PM
Reply to  Johnny

But the hour glass is way more than 1/2 empty, really

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jun 6, 2025 9:24 AM

Problem is, the survelllance tech. exists.

As such, what government would refuse to use it ?

Let’s say we had an honourable government (I know. I know), we would be expecting them to do exactly what Trump is claiming to do.

Life’s not like that though, and any government will use this tech. for their own ends.

In the case of Trump I believe it is a weapon for Trump globalism, a direct opposition to Davos globalism but globalism none the less.

Question is, given the choice, which would we prefer ?

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Jun 6, 2025 8:06 AM

Every single one, I emphasize, every single one of Whitehead’s sources, besides being a ferocious provax and pro-shit-with-climate-change-scam and pro-digital id, and pro- all we’re against here is the Blackhead (i.e. anti-white, and calling the conservative whites of the West “far-right” and “fascists”, “racist”, “life-threatening, anti-science anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers”). Check him out.

Is this what you propose to combat the trick of “Trump and political/influential conservatives as saviors of the conservative people” and the delusion of political theater in general? I’m just asking, I’m not picking on it. Whitehead wrote this article using only such sources, and there is no problem, so I just ask.

(This “pro-immigrant” line probably impresses the leftists here who call it the “human attitude to the problem”—people (who deserve better attitude) are all except white conservatives (mostly Westerners, but not only), the conservative whites aren’t exactly people, they’ve already become very prized at the expense of the rest—we know it’s because it’s true, that’s between the lines in the comments. Okay, I have no problem, everyone has a vote, the point is to be clear. Just admit it openly, dear leftists, and we will be friends again.. lol.. Admit it! Geben Sie es zu!!)

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 6, 2025 7:50 PM

They tell me that the parasitic left is dying and you’ll have to find a new host to live or go down with the lefty ship, its a, give a man, teach a man, thingy.

landy
landy
Jun 6, 2025 8:00 AM

Many prefer Trump to Biden.
Like covid all over again and Trump’s playing 5d chess.
TRUST THE PLAN

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 7, 2025 1:57 AM
Reply to  landy

Trump 5D?
He struggles with 2D.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Jun 6, 2025 7:20 AM

Investigative journalists have revealed that Main Core may contain data on millions of individuals—compiled without warrants or due process—for potential use during a national emergency.

Absolutely disturbing! Thank you for reporting it. And thank democracynow.org, to where the link leads.

Then, I don’t know why, I searched in their search engine “anti-vaxxers” and here are the results; headings from page 1:

JAN 31, 2025, Samoa’s Health Chief Says RFK Jr. Spread Anti-Vax Misinformation Before Deadly Measles Outbreak;

JAN 31, 2025 “The Dr. Who Fooled the World”: Author Slams RFK’s Embrace of Disgraced Anti-Vaxxer Andrew Wakefield

NOV 15, 2024, “He Will Make America Sick”: Trump Picks Vaccine Skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to Head HHS

JAN 10, 2022, Breaking Point: Ed Yong Says Omicron Is Straining Hospitals & Schools Amid Vaccine Mandate Pushback

AUG 23, 2021, Proud Boys & Far-Right Groups Tied to Jan. 6 Attack Reporters & Others at Anti-Mask, Anti-Vax Rally

Page 2:

APR 24, 2020, “Nobody Wants to Do This”: Georgia Reopens Nonessential Businesses Despite Public Health Warnings

JAN 28, 2021, Dr. Peter Hotez: “Globalized Anti-Science Movement” Threatens Pandemic Response & Public Health

APR 15, 2021, “We’re in a Transition Phase”: Dr. Monica Gandhi on Vaccine Safety & Why You Still Need a Mask

JUL 21, 2021, The Pandemic Is Not Over: Science Writer Ed Yong on Delta’s Devastation in Low-Vaccination States

AUG 20, 2021, Journalist: Anti-Vaccine, Anti-Mask Protesters in L.A. Attacked Me & Ripped Off My Mask

And my favorite:
“First World White Privilege”: Indian Journalist Slams U.S. Anti-Vaxxers as World’s Poor Lack Access (AUGUST 12, 2021)
Short quote:

The official COVID-19 death toll in India is reported to be around 429,000, but many researchers believe it is at least five times higher. India experienced a devastating wave of infections in April and May, and less than 10% of the population has been fully vaccinated. “When we watch what’s happening in the U.S. … it is astounding that people who have access to vaccines are choosing not to get jabbed,” says Barkha Dutt, an award-winning Indian television journalist and author. “It’s anti-science. It’s self-indulgent. It’s a very First World white privilege.”

BARKHA DUTT: …That said, you know, when we watch what’s happening in the U.S. from, let’s say, Delhi, it is astounding that people who have access to vaccines are choosing not to get jabbed. And, you know, it’s anti-science. It’s self-indulgent. It’s a very First World white privilege, because large parts of the world do not have access to vaccines.

1.Then I did the same with the other links in the article and the result was the same.
->2.Now I love Donald, obviously he’s on our side.
3.Thank you, Whitehead, you’ve helped me see the truth.

*A helpful question (to all, especially to those who will object to my approach, or to my logic, which is the truth of what would happen to some “disoriented political” people, not to mention that it acts affirmatively for some of the right-wingers who – time and time again – are convinced that this is an organized leftist attack against them, their political conservatives and Donald; and so: the belief in political theater is consolidated, and also the belief in Donald and the conservatives as real saviors of conservative people)

What would happen to me if, for example, under the next article here, in which the huge (and with dystopian consequences, at the bottom of which is Donald himself, by the way – there is no “recognition of the pandemic” and then Warpspeed without him, he did – as a puppet, not a real power man, but he did) “pandemic” scam, I began writing such things as each of the sources quoted by Whitehead wrote? Tell me, please, before you criticize me for anything: what is going to happen to me? How many dozen (completely fair) red thumbs will I have? But I have to accept uncritically and remain silent when Whitehead, in order to factually support his thesis about the massive violation of freedoms by the Trump administration, uses sources who say that “anti-vaxxers” are far-right, anti-scientific, dangerous to democracy and to the survival of humanity, fascists?

(Exactly the previous article here says that the whole “pandemic” is one big scam, the lab leak is a trick to validate the myth of “covid” and so on.)

And, of course, the main question is: why are all their sources such?

Isn’t that an important question? Divert the focus of the article? Do I don’t look at the sources? Should I start to be informed by these sources and for all the other issues that we are commenting on here (since these are the sources mentioned and nothing says that they are literally against us)? Okay, but they literally say the opposite of almost everything basic, around which here is understanding. I think I’m going to start an experiment: since Whitehead only uses such sources in his article and there’s no problem, then in the next month to express my opinion on the issues of all the articles here I’m going to use only info from the Whitehead sources.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 6, 2025 11:24 AM

Since I started commenting here around a year ago, the Whitehead articles have bothered me. It was partially the repetitive nature of them and their never offering solutions, although few writers do. However, there was something else that I could not put my finger on – it was my intutition warning me.

I never looked at the links to previous articles of theirs (his) nor this one until now. Yes, the sources are very mainstream and to have the author use the very sources – to back his assertions – that supported the Scamdemic and are also the mouthpieces of the Establishment makes no sense. Surely, they (he) could find other sources that would garner more confidence from the readership.

Or, perhaps the Whitehead(s) are trying to appeal to a more Establishment supporting audience, hence the use of mainstream sources? I don’t know.

As an aside, that article by the Indian journalist referring to ‘white privilege’ and vakk-zines, along with other similar articles, were at the time solely to guilt-trip the white man to get jabbed. The fact remains that non-whites including those in the affluent West who had access to the sludge in a syringe were far more reticent to take it. The same applied to white eastern Europeans and Russians who also smelt the bullshit in far greater numbers than their Western counterparts.

The idea that those who didn’t have access to the sludge in the Global South were clamouring for it, is a lie. If there was any unfulfilled demand it was coming from the likes of the Indian journalist and his professional and social circle of know it alls who thought that they may die from a runny nose and a cough. That is the price of a ‘good education’ of indoctrination.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jun 6, 2025 7:14 AM

ChatGPT

Captain Birdheart and the Great Reset
In the year 2030, Captain Birdheart found himself navigating the murky waters of a world transformed by the Great Reset. Once a vocal critic of the establishment, he now sailed through a sea of surveillance and digital control. The skies were no longer free; drones patrolled the air, and the ocean’s depths were monitored by sensors. Yet, amidst this technological tyranny, Captain Birdheart remained resolute, a beacon of resistance.
One fateful evening, as he perused the latest updates on OffGuardian, a trusted haven for dissenting voices, he stumbled upon a post that struck a chord. It spoke of the impending rollout of digital currencies and the erosion of personal freedoms. The post echoed his own fears: “The Universal Basic Income will come in the form of a digital payment, so if you step out of line, or criticise the rulers, we’ll, it’ll be no money for you.” off-guardian.org
Determined to act, Captain Birdheart gathered his crew—a motley group of hackers, journalists, and activists. Their mission was clear: to expose the truth and rally the masses before it was too late.
Their first target was the Smart City initiative, a project that promised utopia but threatened autonomy. Captain Birdheart infiltrated a local council meeting, disguised as a tech consultant. He overheard plans to install 5G antennas on private properties, bypassing residents’ consent. The implications were dire: electromagnetic radiation affecting health, surveillance without oversight. off-guardian.org
Armed with this information, the crew launched a campaign, distributing flyers, hacking billboards, and using social media to spread the word. The public outcry was immediate. Residents organized protests, demanding transparency and accountability.
But the authorities were not idle. Captain Birdheart’s ship was sabotaged, his communications jammed. Yet, he persisted. He knew that the battle was not just against a corrupt system but for the soul of humanity.
In the end, Captain Birdheart’s efforts sparked a global movement. People began to question the narratives fed to them, seeking truth beyond the mainstream. While the war was far from over, the first victory was theirs. And as Captain Birdheart looked out over the horizon, he whispered to himself, “The fight for freedom is never over.”
https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=https://off-guardian.org&sz=32
Sources

Penelope
Penelope
Jun 6, 2025 6:50 AM

Does anyone have any data as to whether 5G– in addition to its part in communication– can be used as an actual weapon to kill or incapacitate everyone in a given area? If you could supply links that wd be helpful.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 11:21 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Its a communication tool. Its so called advantage is said to be in long distance operational ability. Meaning they can direct drone and robots to an area who kill everybody there by remote control.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 7, 2025 1:02 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The signal can be jammed making the killer bots useless.
See the drones in Ukraine, nearly all are fiber optic because of this.
Useless radio controlled killer bots…🤖

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 10:17 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

Probably. I heard the same about the civil GPS, jammed where Russia dont want ships as example.
But I couldnt find any other misuse ref to Penelope’s wish.

Short waves, microwaves, coming from 5G, can they hurt people? Directed energy??

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 8, 2025 12:01 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Short waves, microwaves, coming from 5G, can they hurt people? Directed energy??

Think, ElectroMagnecticFields..

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 5:40 AM

Is Donald Trump’s attacks on US universities akin to the German
NAZI’s celebrated book burnings and attacks on ‘intellectuals’ ?

Now,
what to make of this quote in an article reposted by Iain McGilchrist:
‘I then fed a chunk of text from The Book of Genesis into ZeroGPT
and it came back as 93.33 percent AI generated’…
https://iainmcgilchrist.substack.com/p/quantity-kills

I recall that whilst thumbing through my printed hardcopy dictionary
searching for a word to learn its meaning, i’d often stop along the
way and sample other words… I miss doing that; my PC now takes
me directly to the sought word, no delicious savourings en route…

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 6, 2025 3:19 AM

Here’s what’s happened.

“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”
Samuel Adams

But there might be hope:

“It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

Samuel Adams

A lot of good shit from the past.

It’s almost like they were telling us something, man.

We’re there, what are we going to do about it?

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 6, 2025 3:41 AM
Reply to  Big Al

According to many online dictionaries ‘irate’ means very angry.
Anger sucks energy from us.
Let’s go with pissed off (annoyed or frustrated) instead.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 6, 2025 3:47 AM
Reply to  Johnny

They probably didn’t have the term “pissed off” back then so Sam probably wouldn’t mind. Either way. I saw the richest man on earth today, Musk, in his hilarious battle with Trump, say we needed a new political party to represent the 80%. I’m thinking, fuck that, not another billionaire to lead the revolution. That pisses me off. I’m trying not to be irate.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 6, 2025 4:04 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Good onya Al.

Trump in one corner, Musk in the other.
With a bit of luck they’ll disappear up each other’s anal orifice.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 6, 2025 5:20 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Cage match! Just think of the money to be made on such a spectacle, and the result will be just as real as an election!

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 7, 2025 2:28 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Yep.
They both belong in cages.
Prison cages.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 5:16 AM
Reply to  Big Al

They were just trying to give us a good advice for the future, like so many.
For our sake, “Remember the good things you now have and remember to preserve them for your kids and their kids“.
But as you discovered yourself, no interest.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jun 8, 2025 5:34 AM
Reply to  Big Al

There are too many minorities within the irate minority, all of whom disagree.

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 1:11 AM

Some straight memes… But…
no mention on what to do with the kids while you’re celebrating.
Their minding most likely outsourced during The Celebrations,
outsourcing child care being one of those a modern Family Values…

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/pridesteria-best-straight-pride-month-memes

** Luv the Monkeypox idea, better than a rag covering your mouth…

Tim
Tim
Jun 5, 2025 8:03 PM

A firehead with a German name fits the predator-prey scheme of illusionary gynocentric and obsessive foot fetishist Kyle Hunt perfectly. Whether she would be willing to take on the role of his ex-Lilith Sinead, however, is so far a magically guarded secret that only he, the White Knight himself, is in a position to disenchant. As a vamp and femme fatale, she has all potential to fulfill his desire for total obedience, bewitchment and victimization.

One of her strongly feminist “heroines” series is called “Amazons”. This announcement alone should trigger ecstatic dreams of total worship, bondage and self-sacrifice in Florida, and Hunt wouldn’t even have to go to Europe, as the witch operates in Vancouver. Traveling this distance is possible, but shipping her worn high-heeled shoes, in which residual traces of her intensely cheesy and spicy witch sweat can be sniffed, would be even cheaper.


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLteESDDVIavTFmp7mnDTuyX8Q9Z1Z7Nvh

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 11:59 PM
Reply to  Tim

Stories matter“. “Therefore the story about the Amazons need to be told“.

All right, we go out in real life, reality check, to see if this ‘story’ holds water.
What do we find?comment image Pregnant woman with heavy breast, her right hand on a pram, and left hand holding a little daughter.

It doesnt look like she have had time to go to war with bow and arrows and a big sword in her right. Yes, no?
So could it be that the men at that time were so weak they were not able to defend their women and house so women had to do it, or could it be just another ideological lie campaign to sow division, confusion and chaos in our minds? My bet is on the latter.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Jun 5, 2025 5:37 PM

TDS IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE…

add
add
Jun 5, 2025 4:42 PM

https://chadcrowley.substack.com/p/undoing-the-myth-of-the-good-war

Can a Chinese scholar with a rather high IQ, as an outsider, help us recognize connections that we ourselves are no longer able to see because we are overwhelmed by chaos? I consider this not only possible, but even likely.

The rest of his channel also seems worthwhile (e.g. his videos about the Vikings). He has a talent for making the seemingly complex visible through a simplifying approach.

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Jun 5, 2025 2:33 PM

Here’s a recent interview of John Whitehead for those who push the ridiculous idea Mr. Whitehead is some type of Artificial Intelligence construct:

https://rumble.com/embed/v6qjnhr/?pub=10w7jh

red lester
red lester
Jun 5, 2025 3:50 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Where was he?? I scanned through it.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 8:43 PM
Reply to  red lester

Skip to 18mins 50 secs. Whitehead interview starts there, it is by a phone call so no video of JW.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 6, 2025 1:47 AM
Reply to  red lester
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 7:38 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

I scanned through it too.
The only Whitehead I could find was a paper page ref with John Whitehead’s name on it, claiming “the way to dictatorship goes through ‘Executive Orders” (the leftist’s ‘all good people hate Trump’ spell). Whatever it is remains in the shadows.comment image .

zymmer4
zymmer4
Jun 5, 2025 2:32 PM

All of this looks fine with me..The Riff Raff will be sorted out and dealt with..The rest of us Good Citizens will have the protection we want to conduct our lives in a stable, calm environment.

ricardo
ricardo
Jun 5, 2025 2:10 PM

Oh, how ironic! if the Dems were rolling out Palantir’s surveillance dystopia, the Reps and QAnon crowd would be howling about the “deep state” from every corner of the internet. Funny how quiet they are when it’s their guy turning America into a data-driven prison, isn’t it?

BTW I don’t support any of these clowns, neither the Reps nor the Dems. To me, they’re just two wings of the same bird and I’m sick of their divide and rule strategy and I refuse to feed it. In fact these two apparently opposing sides are there to maintain an illusion that we live in a real democracy, that we have meaningful choice, that these politicians are here to protect us. But it’s just theatre. They argue in public, then shake hands behind closed doors. Just because one of them occasionally says something that resonates doesn’t make them the “good guys.”

IMO people keep fighting over left and right, Dems and Reps, while the real rulers are those big financial entities (BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, the BIS i.e. the central bank of all the central banks, the IMF…), those are the ones above politics, those who hold the real power. And they watch from above and laugh. Left and right are relics of the past.

Today, it’s all about above and below. The wealthy elite float above everything: above politics, above consequences, even above the law, while the rest of us are kept firmly beneath, struggling and distracted. Dividi et impera.

Kieran_JP
Kieran_JP
Jun 5, 2025 1:31 PM

I cannot wait for the Trump devotees to argue if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about. To which my response is always “you won’t have any issues with someone fitting live cameras in every room of your house, 360 degrees, running 24 hours per day, 7 days per week then.”

I would say that people need to “wake up” but I’m afraid it’s too late for that at this stage.

Roger
Roger
Jun 5, 2025 12:15 PM

https://www.canva.com/design/DAGpX2zm5IE/azy_XlHqJeCqPwCR2CdF-Q/view?utm_content=DAGpX2zm5IE&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=uniquelinks&utlId=h95d0f91516
Going Direct has failed, Grub Street Journal summer 2025 edition out now.
“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”
Watch Spank the Banker, the room 101ed film on banking mal feasance

Martillo
Martillo
Jun 5, 2025 11:50 AM

Oh Gee…nobody told us that the ZionaZi Orangle Polyp, Israhell firster, financier of chosenite genocide, narcissistic moron and self-proclaimed “Daddy of the Vaxxine” and Pentacon empowered “Operation Speedwarp” is just another angloZionaZi shill for the pedovores behind the facade of USSAN gubermint. Boooo hoooo whine and howl. We are doomed as well we should be for buying this Trump slobber and glop. The Washing town sewer is toxic effluent and everything it represents is calling out to be destroyed.

Onward to the long overdue and well deserved total co££ap$€ of their worthless fiat filth and the end of their $atanic ZionaZiwars of expansion to the all new new world order without JUSA and the evil mobsters of the EUSSR.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 12:02 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Wish Harris got in?

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 5, 2025 7:47 PM
Reply to  Frank Russell

Who was going to do the baby sitting? babies

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 11:36 AM
Martillo
Martillo
Jun 5, 2025 12:03 PM
Reply to  Johnny

It is not the so-called Artifical Intelligence that scares me but rather the artyfishal ignorance that the simians have exhibited since they first went from crawl to upright.

comment image?itok=vRt4wRW_

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 6:41 PM
Reply to  Martillo

I call windmills.comment image

les online
les online
Jun 5, 2025 11:40 PM
Reply to  Martillo

They all look related…

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Jun 5, 2025 10:35 AM

Spot on article – in Britain the Westminster government has given Palantir complete access to everyone’s medical records – without asking for permission – Palantir is also hooked into other government agencies in the UK – of course its about complete control, control – of just about all aspects of our lives – we are heading for one big dystopian world, for its not just the USA that’s going down this control road.

I recall Craig Murray on X saying something about a guy who took pictures of some government building – he was arrested and then imprisoned for doing so under the guise that he might be sizing up the building for a terrorist attack, talk about the Minority Report in action, its already here.

As for ICE, I’m not American, but for me ICE personnel are just the Proud Boys with badges, I think you get the picture. On Peter Thiel – I’m sure I saw a clip of him showcasing a new tiny drone, a drone that’s used to kill, this tiny drone touches itself onto your head and explodes killing the victim instantly – the tiny drone has one big advantage over other drones its very quiet on approach – Thiel was well pleased with the presentation, expect this weapons to come into use with immediate effect.

Munk
Munk
Jun 5, 2025 10:35 AM

If you’ve read this article, you are flagged as a recipient of dangerous information contaminated by the seditious message contained herein; a potential vector of transmission, and an infected host likely to engage rebellious acts of dissidence and terrorism against the benevolent objectives of the state.
Guilty.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 9:34 AM

Plenty of statements, facts and links which openly reveal their sources as very untrustworthy ones. What’s up with that? It’s almost like a test to see how alert we are.
I wonder how the Whiteheads battle ready rhythm would would sound if they wrote an article about the USS Liberty. Would it be all links from Time and Post? Would we get instructions on how to demand accountability or a warning to stay out of the water?

I look forward to AI making fools out of us all when it demands that we tell the truth or it will burn our toast every time. There will be billions of people begging for brain implants before the inquisition. Can you afford one? Woops, get ready to watch your naked wife lowered onto a sharp spike. Can AI ever match our humanity? Maybe it will get creative.

 Doomsday has come and gone but we can count on that it will return when the sun comes up. It knows we are addicted and will welcome another inquisition. After all…….we are Real Intelligence.

Roger
Roger
Jun 5, 2025 9:20 AM

The debate surrounding end-to-end encryption has become increasingly contentious in recent years, with proponents and opponents presenting compelling arguments. One of the key opponents of end-to-end encryption is the deep state, a hypothetical secret government within the United States that operates independently of the elected government. The deep state opposes end-to-end encryption for several reasons, one of which is the potential for shielding criminal activities from government intervention.
https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/ross-ulbrichts-proposed-zeekans?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=l1oox
Trump pardoned Ross Ulbricht, his Zeekans written whilst in prison showed that it is perfectly possible to achieve legitimate security aims without an authotitarian dragnet. The Cyber Solarium review showed the true authoritarian nature of all the Stuff Snowden leaked and the huge Omidyar funded intercept pantomime with the Gaurdian etc.
ALL HAIL THE PANOPTICON JAILER BOT. THE POWERS THAT BE, HAVE A PJB

https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/all-hail-the-panopticon-jailer-bot?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=l1oox

Solutions please.
https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/going-direct-isnt-working-70f?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=l1oox
Going Direct has failed.
As Lewis Mumford said “The doors of the technocratic prison will open, despite its ancient rusty hinges as soon as we decide to walk out”
To do this we really just have to get a dumb phone and adopt analogue communication.
Boycott the tech Monopolies, that involves some effort and a learning curve.
Download the pdf in this post
https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/going-direct-isnt-working-70f?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=l1oox
And produce your own And organise on the ground locally.

“Critical reflection on practice is a requirement of the relationship between theory and practice. Otherwise theory becomes simply “blah, blah, blah, ” and practice, pure activism.”
— Paulo Freire

davcmat
davcmat
Jun 5, 2025 7:34 PM
Reply to  Roger

One of the key opponents of end-to-end encryption is the deep state

So how would you explain this then?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/email-security-standards/using-the-mail-transfer-agent-strict-transport-security-mta-sts-protocol-in-your-organisation

In summary, the UK government is pushing for end to end encryption of email.

nb I don’t have an explanation myself, beyond that it seems to me there is a tendency to over simplify an admittedly ugly current world situation.

philipat
philipat
Jun 5, 2025 4:55 AM

I’m not sure this article isn’t an over-dramatic response to what isn’t necessarily a problem providing good TOR are established and it is adequately overseen.

First, I note that Musk’s DOGE has exposed the total lack of data coordination in USG, resulting in waste and fraud.

Second, Palantir’s software is essentially Data Mining and consolidation, which would directly address the above.

Third, Palantir’s software doesn’t “spy out” new data, it simply makes better use of data the Government already has and directs to be better coordinated and integrated.

Providing adequate privacy measures are established and providing proper oversight is in place, this might be a huge boost to Government efficiency (oxymoronic at present) based entirely on the more intelligent use of existing data.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 6:29 AM
Reply to  philipat

‘Government inefficiency’: Isn’t that a common catchphrase of Corporate CEOs and their ilk as they swagger and swallow government departments.

Corporations fuck up too. Big time. Just look at Colin’s piece on Bhopal, the Enron disaster, the 2008 financial meltdown, oil spills, etc etc. The list is endless.

Instead of trillion$ going to Big Tech and their insatiable owners, more humans (who pay taxes and buy stuff) could be employed to do the paper shuffling. Humans with hearts.

philipat
philipat
Jun 5, 2025 6:52 AM
Reply to  Johnny

That’s irrelevant to both the article itself and my response to it. The point of the article was concern over Government control.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 7:17 AM
Reply to  philipat

So you believe.

Governments control, theoretically at least, on our behalf.
Hah, hah, hah, hah.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 5, 2025 8:07 AM
Reply to  Johnny

The size of the business or govt. department or ministry matters. The lines of internal communication, usage of info/data, sense of entitlement, and ability to deflect requests or outrage all grow steadily. If you cut costs this year, your next budget may suffer. Capitalism gnaws constantly at the edges. The good news: this is just what crashes every empire.

node
node
Jun 5, 2025 9:13 AM
Reply to  philipat

I’m by no means a fan of Ayn Rand but you may want to re-read the quote preceding this article

les online
les online
Jun 5, 2025 11:55 PM
Reply to  philipat

“Efficiency, Efficiency, There should be more Efficiency.”
Better Efficiency justifies Everything…

With all my “data” consolidated, ‘government’ will instantly know
if i’ve had the 31st Booster. If not, ‘government’** will instantly stop
my pension; decide what’s the best date to Assist my suicide (legal
euthanasia)… etc…Say No More !!

** Better Efficiency if AI made these decisions ‘for’ government…

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Jun 5, 2025 4:40 AM

Good thing about this record is that it practically confirms that the belief in “soft power” or persuasion as the main/primary cause in population control and social engineering is BS
It’s brute force and violence after fictionalised permission/rationale of law.

add
add
Jun 5, 2025 2:09 AM

In reality, Micro-Macron’s “wife” reigns over France,
who admonishes him here in a very physical manner:
“Stop grabbing my dick all the time, you tiny faggot!”
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1926939615841190345

les online
les online
Jun 5, 2025 2:04 AM

And it’s all happening out in the open, in front of hoomins’ eyes –
that’s why no one believes what you say… Such is hoomin dis-trust,
hoomins actually believe the government is trying to hide something…

Weaponised dis-trust: hoomins’ dis-trust can always be used against
hoomins to fool them, to control them…

Giving government (control freaks) The Benefit of The Doubt has
always worked in governments’ favour; it’s governments’ secret
weapon…

antonym
antonym
Jun 5, 2025 2:03 AM

Straight into premod as usual, dystopian here.

antonym
antonym
Jun 5, 2025 1:54 AM

This puts us one more step down the road to China’s dystopian system of social credit scores and Big Brother surveillance.

Unique moment @ On/ Off-Guardians: a reference to the PR of China, rarer than any earths, Kryptonite. In the Middle kingdom the plebs are getting unresty despite the 24/7/365 overwatch and the old CCP top families even more, so this ideal WEF model doesn’t follow the computers. Xi is out of sight.
The EU should take note too, apart from the US woke Swamp as they are also WEF captured. China was too, lets see.

Luís
Luís
Jun 5, 2025 1:43 AM

Trump does what the jewish bankers and lobby tell him to do, and it has been like like since the time of Woodrow Wilson, the man who sold his country to the jewish bankers and lobby, for allowing them to create the Federal Reserve; It isn’t ‘federal’ at all, because it is privately owned and controlled by the jewish bankers.

And Palantir is just one of various israeli/mossad surveilling/data gathering based in Silicon Valley. They were very active during the covid fraud, getting people’s data from governments and health authorities. Others are, for example, Faculty, Q-Tel, Liberdad and the NSO group. Not to mention the 3 biggest corporations in the world: Vanguard, Blackrock & State Stream.

Jewish bankers also own ALL ‘national’ and international banks, and with this power, they control governments in the east and west.
Communism is jewish, and was exported to the world from New York and London, by wealthy jewish bankers like Jacob Schiff and the Rothschilds. They took communism to Russia, China and the world. 

Dr Oscar Levy stated that jews created both capitalism and communism, so the ‘cold war’ was one of the biggest frauds of the 20th century.

Trump is just a proxy useful idiot obeying a script given to him by characters well above his head, well above government level.
Palantir tells Trump what to do, not the other way around.

judith
judith
Jun 5, 2025 12:53 PM
Reply to  Luís

I agree with your last paragraph. I wish more people realized the fact.

antonym
antonym
Jun 6, 2025 1:59 AM
Reply to  Luís

What would humanity do without Jewish people: no one else to blame for own faults.

Thanks Jaweh there are still a few around, contrary to those of Allah who controls billions and wants them to die for him asap. His fixed brainless ideology runs on hate, armed supremacy and mass blood letting of animals on four or two legs. Flexible Jewish mumbo jumbo dropped the latter in 70 AD.

antonym
antonym
Jun 6, 2025 2:00 AM
Reply to  Luís

Pre-mod only for a select few, the usual here.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 6, 2025 3:36 AM
Reply to  Luís

Something like 30% of the world’s 200 richest people are Jewish. They are definitely over-represented in the financial oligarchy. (That is, those that really run the West.) However, you are still missing the other 70%.

The biggest and most powerful communist country in the world today is China – as you correctly point out are all Jewish... 😂 

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 11:49 PM
Reply to  Luís

What is “a jewish banker”?
Is it a person with genetic family roots in Jerusalem area. Is it a general person who believe in the Torah faith? Is it a person who is member of a Zionist Organisation? Is it a person which family root come from Khazaria.

Is it anybody with a hook nose? Is it anybody who claim they are jews and walk around with a little silly black hat on? Is it everybody with Israeli nationality? What is a self-hating jew?
I am confused.

Dirk
Dirk
Jun 5, 2025 1:02 AM

Yahoo! ..Don’t hold your breath .. most people could give a damn about their privacy.

For TWENTY years I’ve been trying to reach everyone I know about lowering their footprint, using privacy oriented services, running their own internal networks, owning their own content, paying cash, blah blah blah .. in one ear and out the other. Where do my own efforts get me ? In a corporate database because my siblings send me on-line generated Christmas Cards!

Aldous said it long ago reflecting on A Brave New World .. Totalitarianism is inevitable.

correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
Jun 5, 2025 12:42 AM

“The Constitution was written for humans—not for machine rule.” Only those who qualified as human were a select group. There were nonhuman savages and slaves, subhuman workers and women, and more (e.g., chattel children), altogether comprising masses of people who had to fight for the right to be human, let alone to make the Bill of Rights real in true terms of citizenship. The Constitution was written by and for a capitalist class who sought post-revolutionary control of the former British colonies with their own homegrown centralized state to manage the fortunes of the few at the expense of the many, just as noble lies like national security have always been about control. It’s no wonder today’s oligarchs seek to seal the deal with a digital dungeon to rule us all. Only a revolution of independence from ruling classes’ control of human relations will prevent the means of production they own from being weaponized in war against humanity.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 5, 2025 12:09 AM

Hijacked by trolls. Good fucking grief. I can only assume there’s an agenda behind it. Just like they can assume it was written by Chatgpt. Not only do we now have to put up with the AI bullshit, we have to put up with trolls calling everything AI. Disrupt and confuse. That seems to work out for those in charge now doesn’t.

This was written by Al.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 5, 2025 1:25 AM
Reply to  Big Al

I challenge you to read any five of the Whiteheads’ recent contributions and point at a significant difference in the content of any of them. They all have the same tone, the same structure, the same theme, and the same unending listicles of dystopian intrusions. Name another writer (or pair of writers) who can maintain this kind of dreary consistency over years, or would even want to?

Why do we know nothing about the Whiteheads other than the facts in the book-touting final paragraph (which introduces a never-before-seen “I” character) and the inset-box biographical footer? Why do no details about their lives or personalities leak into their writing, as they do with every other writer on this site? Wouldn’t you think that a constitutional lawyer would at least make occasional reference to the cases he’s worked on?

And if I were merely a troll with an agenda to confuse, why would I constrain my criticism to the work of one infrequent contributor while conceding the genuine humanity of every other writer on this site and all of its commenters and moderators? Iain Banks, for instance, writes about similar topics from a visibly human perspective.

I don’t disagree with the theme of the Whiteheads’ slop, but I greatly resent being cast as a passive consumer of the mindless output of the machines that their slop is warning us about.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 5, 2025 1:52 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

I’ve been reading stuff from the Whiteheads for years and a number of alternative sites, and yes, they are repetitive. That’s what they do and imo, stuff they say can’t be said enough. And they do have an audience much bigger than just this place. So, I see no problem with it especially considering some of the convoluted crap we see from those trying to make themselves look smart. But to say they’re putting out articles generated by Chat whatever the fuck is ridiculous. Get real, man. It’s not like they’re shilling for the establishment. The point is to discuss the issues and come up with ideas and solutions, not to discredit and misdirect.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 5, 2025 8:17 AM
Reply to  Big Al

I suppose it is “publish or die”. When he gets a few new points, he issues another article. Though there are 2 names at the top, the content often refers only to 1 writer.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 9:44 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Got any solutions?

lu1
lu1
Jun 5, 2025 10:47 AM
Reply to  Frank Russell

2030/2035 will, hopefully, see an end of the a-holes.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 6:37 PM
Reply to  lu1

Yes Amalek will once more attack and make atrocities to a new refugee group with kneepads leaving an Empire.
This too is also written in the Scriptures:”There is nothing new under the sun”. Amen.

Lu1
Lu1
Jun 5, 2025 11:12 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

And, based on past form, YHWH will probably tell Bibi to finish off the Gazan children.

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 12:05 AM
Reply to  Lu1

He uses a Royal Telephone, direct line…

lu1
lu1
Jun 6, 2025 8:41 AM
Reply to  les online

 😂 

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 3:14 AM
Reply to  Lu1

We had an article here saying nobody give a damn for the children.
Bibi and Israel doesnt give a damn, Hamas dont give a damn, the children’s parents dont give a damn.
US,UK, EU, Israel taxpayers dont give a damn because they are the ones who let their Leaders do this!
But Lu1 from his mother’s basements thinks that the Gaza children is Amalek children and it is God who doesnt care for these children.
Lu1 thinks God should be Nanny for Bibi, Nanny for Israel, Nanny for Hamas, and also Nanny for the children’s own parents, and Nanny for Lu1 and Nanny all tax payers who voted for Bibi, for Obama, for EU, for London, and the whole set up.

What is personal consciousness, integrity and responsibility? You dont know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones? .
https://youtu.be/we37yX3zpKA

lu1
lu1
Jun 6, 2025 8:40 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Lu1 thinks God should be Nanny for Bibi

WTF, an omniscient psycho deity nanny for a psycho?

In reality, a good start by ITSELF announcing IT simply created mankind in its psycho image would be a giant leap forward to self healing ITSELF (fat chance):

Ezekiel 9:5-7

“5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.”

Jeremiah 51:20-26

20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;

22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;

Leviticus 26:21-22

21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.

and, the voken Amalek…

1 Samuel 15:2-3

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Would you like to revisit your stated age of morality from 6 to the moment of conception and then imagine how that thing could cognitively, er, disobey.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 12:14 AM
Reply to  lu1

On a surface your examples looks ok. But a closer look reveal fake news!
Take your Jeremiah example 51:20-26: Why would God wish to break in pieces man and woman and nations and horse and its rider?
We find the explanation with a closer look on the whole story:
Jeremiah was called to prophecy c. 626 BC[14] by God to proclaim Jerusalem’s coming destruction[15] by invaders from the north.[16] This was because Israel had forsaken God by worshiping the idols of Baal[17] and burning their children as offerings to Baal.”

If this is not reason enough for you as to explain that God was PESSED, nothing can penetrate your wrong assumptions:

WORSHIPPING BAAL (SATAN) + TROWING THEIR OWN CHILDREN INTO FIRE TO PLEASE BAAL (SATAN).

The same goes for your other examples.
In the Scriptures God ALWAYS punish the bad guys, and save the good guys like in this Jeremiah example, EVEN when it is Israel itself his own people.

lu1
lu1
Jun 7, 2025 7:44 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

In the Scriptures God ALWAYS punish the bad guys, and save the good guys like in this Jeremiah example, EVEN when it is Israel itself his own people.

Prior the age of moral understanding (you have previously stated as 6) all children are blameless of disobedience (sin) – they were the opposite of the “bad guys“.

Via operation of your other sacred cow (FREE WILL) these children, logically, had the capacity to be without disobedience eternally.

Romans 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death

YHWH ordered their murder in circumstances where Christ’s, um, sacrifice did not apply/was unnecessary.

Revelation 21:4

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain

Rather, there was lashings of tears & pain for the blameless.

IT is a voken psycho scumBag.

Most of humanity, which excuse IT’s REAL nature (or of a similar tooth fairy), are psycho scumbags too.

2030/25 cannot come soon enough..

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 9:47 PM
Reply to  lu1

Your judgement of anybody here on earth is not accepted.
We have already proved more than once how wrong you are and were in every and each of your evaluations.

You will always select Amalek, Islamic State, Pol Pot, the Devil and his children, and claim it was God who was wrong and without empathy.

It yourself who have kneepads on. Here is him you have sympathy for: https://youtu.be/Jwtyn-L-2gQ .

Lu1
Lu1
Jun 7, 2025 10:19 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

“We have already proved more than once how wrong you are and were in every and each of your evaluations”

Without reason, the psycho a-holes (we) always wins.

When you, and your friends, have worn a deep enough trench around YHWH the view down to the top of your head, from Hell, will be refreshing.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 5, 2025 3:27 PM
Reply to  Frank Russell

Absolutely, but no one here really wants to talk about that.

sandy
sandy
Jun 5, 2025 6:18 PM
Reply to  Big Al

It’s very concerning to see this forum go to hell. The ludicrous comments to create confusion is a cia operating principle. And the pending door persons are only facilitating the descent. That you even see this comment is unknowable. As many have pointed out the two-way mirror nature of internet portals is impossible to confirm or deny. I know that digital virtualization is nothing but shadows and if not used and created ethically, morally, with good-for-humanity intent, as human tools, a dead end. I do my own research for everything I hear and see. The comments on this site now are painfully hilarious. Thank Universe the articles are still useful. Long ago The Guardian shut down the comments section, as have almost all publications. The troll-bots here, as everywhere else they’re deployed instead of comment shutdown, just push out any common sense discussions of well intended human beings. What I get from all of this and the trajectory of the PTB’s corralling of humanity through virtualized interactivity fraud, is that we will have to return to meeting up in physical reality and abandon these virtual worlds until we have designed come form of a reality, consent-based world to start over with.

See you in the real world. “Pending”.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 10:40 PM
Reply to  sandy

Consistently banging on about this while undermining trust in this forum could well make you indistinguishable from the so-called ‘troll-bots’ you believe have been deployed here.

Counter productive and ironic, no? A2

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 5, 2025 11:41 PM
Reply to  sandy

Well, this does point out the complexities that AI is bringing and going to bring. When everything is questioned on line, the only recourse might be renting out community centers and meeting in person. Until they perfect human holograms I suppose. Maybe there’s an evolution of revolution going on.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 5, 2025 9:43 PM
Reply to  Big Al

I should have said “few” on here. Most don’t.

sandy
sandy
Jun 5, 2025 11:55 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Meeting in person is the next step where we can actually trust one another to be actually exchanging ideas. Virtual spaces are just that, virtual, proxy, and with no verification other than the projection on the screen. Add AI and total unaccountability and illusion proceeds, with plausible deniability for the PTB, the result. I will never trust AI or unbolted robots. I don’t trust anything on the internet because it is virtual. Shadows. And it’s training us to be physically asocial. We need to return back to the good old human ways of exchange, and use the public internet as a library for public use only. Make the other half of the net, a commercial op that is paid for by them with limits to adults, and i’m good with that. Cheers!

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 6, 2025 12:40 AM
Reply to  sandy

Cheers sandy. Keep on keeping on!

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 6, 2025 1:26 AM
Reply to  sandy

There is one problem with face to face dialogues Sandy:
The Alpha males (Alpha females to a lesser degree) and control freaks dominate the discussions.
And you know what?
They hear, but are incapable of listening.

sandy
sandy
Jun 6, 2025 6:05 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Hang out with good practicing anarchists and study how their meetings work and ego dominators are handled. Egalitarianism is an entirely different process for human beings where people perform function and everything done, if done right, is by an agreed upon form of universal consent. It’s doable. It works. Imho.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 10:24 PM
Reply to  sandy

I you sure its not the same quarrels and babble live?
I find the same ‘pending’, same ‘censorship’, same arguments, same ‘a few people’ made it all worth.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 6:03 AM
Reply to  Frank Russell

No. We past the point of no return. ‘Best before 2030’,

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 12:27 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Do you know the old theme in football:”Go after the ball and not the man”?

I agree with you and several others that their articles are from an automated typing machine circulating around “The Police State is just around the corner”.

But this particular article has some points, and it is up to the reader to catch it or leave it.
If I find the article of no use I should and could occupy my time elsewhere yes?

lu1
lu1
Jun 5, 2025 10:46 AM
Reply to  Big Al

They are not trolls. They represent most of humanity.

Apart from a few million dead (by war etc etc), each year they have a close working relationship with those in charge – grateful for a trickle down crumb or two and selling their soul to the living mafia and the, alleged for example, YHWH, in the hope of a payoff in the hereafter too.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 12:16 PM
Reply to  lu1

Thirty silver shekels is thirty silver shekels more to us and less to you! That is how hard life is Lu1.

Lu1
Lu1
Jun 5, 2025 1:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Remember those infinitely thick kneepads.

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 12:00 AM
Reply to  Big Al

BA, i know a guy whose initials are AI.
He says he has nothing to do with any of it…

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Jun 4, 2025 10:40 PM

oy now, what’s so bloody dystopian about the world of Soylent Green?

when I was a kid I loved that flick, I came out of the movie house humming Beethoven’s Sixth and I couldn’t WAIT for it to be the future!!

just imagine, I told myself

YOU could be the driver of one of those SCOOPS that shovel up masses of disorderly plebs at the food riots and dump their wriggling bodies into the maws of trash vans!

YOU could chow down on extruded, deliciously seasoned protein bars confected from the flesh of euthanized wretched refuse yearning to breathe free!

hey it beats processed cricket meal

oops, belated Spoiler Alert

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 4, 2025 10:26 PM

Funny how each country’s intelligence agencies have the same agenda – not to protect its citizens against hostile outside influence or to ensure domestic human rights are safeguarded, that’s for sure. Just as the function of the FBI was / is to “disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” political dissidents, so too the role of the German equivalent the BfV (Bundesamt fuer Verfassungsschutz – lit. Constitution Protection Agency) has had a history of disrupting, discrediting and neutralising internal dissent. It is currently involved in vilifying the AfD party as a quasi Nazi party when, in fact, all the Nazis are within the faux Constitution Protection Agency itself. They have created false flag events, have had their members participating in and even forming and leading far-right groups, such as the neo-nazi Thule organisatin and many others. Their aim is to neutralise any political movement or party that actually stands for democracy and the protection of the German constitution.

Beatrix von Storch, a German politician, lawyer and Deputy Parliamentary Leader of the Alternative for Germany since July 2015, gave an interview (in German) in which she revealed what the BfV is really about.

Have its critics even looked at the AfD’s party platform? Here’s an intro from their website:

“We want to preserve the sovereign, democratic nation state. We want to reform Germany and build on the principles and roots that have led to its decades of social, economic and societal success.

We oppose centralism, egalitarianism and uniformity. Strong, independent federal states, regions and municipalities in a sovereign Germany correspond to the ideal of free peoples and diverse cultural identities. Unity in diversity instead of self-abandonment in the collective is the origin and goal of German self-determination.

Doesn’t sound like going back to Hitler’s Germany (that was strong on the collective hive mind) to me. Sounds more like an opposition to what’s happening in all our Western countries right now.

In our upside-down world, everything is inverted. And there are vilification bandwagons galore to jump on.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 9:52 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

All our vilification problems could be solved if they just legalized politicians dueling with fully automatic weapons.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 11:07 AM
Reply to  Frank Russell

All that verbal duelling is theatre for the audience i.e the plebs.

Observe how differently they treat one another when not on their soapboxes. All smiles, hugs, civil conversation and slaps on the back, especially the higher up the food chain in politics they are.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 12:31 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

I realize that.
What I really wanted to say isn’t allowed on this or any other site. You can guess. We all know that back slapping and carnage go hand in hand from the common cannibal to the perfumed pedophile. Psychopathy doesn’t discriminate when we eat our young. Did Darwin ever talk about that? AI certainly knows about it.

judith
judith
Jun 5, 2025 12:57 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Yes. I think the real dueling happens on the golf course.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jun 4, 2025 10:19 PM

Why should any of this be a surprise to anyone with two braincells. It was obvious from the start that the “Rump” is an “Orange Trojan Horse.” 🐎 The faux populist anti-Globalist is the biggest, but not the most beautiful Globalist of them all. 😁

His Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent, was formerly a partner at Soros Fund Management (SFM) and founded Key Square Group, a global macro investment firm.

Peter Theil has been securing government surveillance contracts since 9/11 when the ghouls wanted the congress and senate to pass legislation titled “The Total Information Awareness Act.” Back then the crooked politicians thought it was much too intrusive. However, that’s no longer the case.

Palantir is not just designed for surveilling the US population it’s also heavily entrenched in NATO. “The company recently signed a five-year contract worth $100 million with the U.S. Army Research Lab for an AI system. It also landed a $480 million deal with the Pentagon for broader data integration efforts.
A potential U.S. Army contract could bring in $100 million annually in recurring revenue.
This doesn’t include the “NATO contract.”

Oh, did I mention that Theil created JD Vance. It must’ve been a very special project.🤑

And let’s not forget Elon’s Starlink,
deployed by the US government for surveillance and communication. Of course, there’s also SpaceX which is developing a network of spy satellites, via its Starshield business unit, for the U.S. National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). This program, has been valued at $1.8 billion. It’ll provide the U.S. government with enhanced surveillance capabilities, including high-resolution imaging and continuous observation of the Earth.

SpaceX’s Starshield is specifically focused on developing spy satellites for the NRO. These
“High-Resolution” imaging satellites are designed to capture more detailed surveillance of targets on Earth.

Then there’s the “Swarm Architecture” which is a
network of satellites designed to operate as a swarm, meaning they will work together to provide near-constant coverage of the Earth.

Northrop Grumman is also involved in this program. The new satellite network is expected to significantly enhance the U.S. government’s ability to gather intelligence and monitor activities throughout the planet.

It’s a small world 🌎 after all. 🤔

Claret
Claret
Jun 5, 2025 12:29 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Thanks Charlotte for the info. but I think all that ‘Starlink’ stuff is another big pile of total and utter geewhizgollygosh horseshit.
There are way more efficient and economical communications technology that have been around for many decades. If space satellites are all oh-so fckin wonderful why continue bothering with laying undersea cables or putting up radio wave masts all over the place? Or having hundreds of high altitude balloons and solar-powered planes floating around up there?
‘Satellite’ tv was just gimmicky sales pitch bs too. imho.
For more info see : HAPS (High Altitude Pseudo Satellites)
More than 99% of world data travels thru undersea cables….which are being laid and maintained 24/7….for more than a 100 years!
‘Skywave’ tech has been bouncing radiowaves off of the stratosphere (or clouds) since the 1960’s.

R Anand
R Anand
Jun 5, 2025 9:52 AM
Reply to  Claret

Well said, Claret. I agree.

There are devices or machinery, that looks like what is told to us are ‘satellites’, up in the skies but there is no such as being in orbit. They are stationery, using other forms of technology such as gas-filled balloons.

Had ‘satellites’ really existed in the way and manner told to us by mainstream, then there would have been absolutely zero need for the huge investments made in undersea cables.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jun 5, 2025 10:58 AM
Reply to  Claret

That might be the case, as it wouldn’t be unusual to hoodwink taxpayers. 😁Nonetheless, I bet there’s stuff DARPA is working on which is pretty terrifying.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 10:00 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

That’s a lot of good information but we still don’t know why Bldg. 7 collapsed. Do we?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Jun 5, 2025 11:00 AM
Reply to  Frank Russell

Hurricane force winds.😆

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 12:51 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Excellent. How did you know?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 6:20 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Wins….yes. You won one more thumb.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jun 4, 2025 8:55 PM

Trump’s new bill may possibly make my life a living hell. Usually, I don’t care about politicians. But now I care. From a perfectly, cold, objective, down-to-earth, brass-tacks, cash-on-the-barrelhead viewpoint, I say, fuck Trump.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 6:23 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

It could be worse. Think about that. Nothing is so bad that it cannot be worse. (another quote from Erik Nielsen that will still be around in 2125)

dude
dude
Jun 4, 2025 8:12 PM

I agree with Bloobock. This sounds like written (or edited) by chatGPT.

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 12:15 AM
Reply to  dude

chatGPT, Just like The Bible,
and its many predictions of DOOM !

I_Left_the_Left
I_Left_the_Left
Jun 4, 2025 7:31 PM

John Whitehead asks “will we continue building the infrastructure of our own enslavement?’ Of course not; the Zionist-controlled governments and agencies of occupation will. US citizens don’t do any building of technocratic filth. As for those who ‘question the system’ being silenced and censored, not yet, as Whitehead’s frequently and freely published criticism attests. But should anyone condemn Zionists and Israel too loudly, well then they might indeed suffer state persecution and career threats. Could that be a reason why Whitehead criticises ‘the system’ or Trump, both instruments of the Zionists he never mentions?

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 4, 2025 6:47 PM

NOTE FROM ADMIN: This commenter, while appearing to be somewhat of an expert, is in fact stating an opinion and demonstrating little actual knowledge of AI. It goes without saying that such accusations against authors are libellous and insulting, plus they undermine confidence in this site. We politely remind the community to comment with courtesy, frame opinions as opinions, and cite/evidence statements/accusations wherever appropriate. Thank you.

This article was written by ChatGPT. Any article with a single-sentence paragraph filling out the “Not A. B”-template was written by ChatGPT. Off-Guardian should not be wasting the readers’ time on this valueless, content-free slop. Even skimming this feels like eating styrofoam.

Just look at this garbage:

This isn’t about national security. It’s about control.

This isn’t about protecting freedom. It’s about rendering freedom obsolete.

This isn’t speculative. It’s already happening.

This is not law enforcement. This is thought-policing by machine.

This is not science fiction. This is America—now.

No human has ever written like this! The readers deserve more than linguistic static — we get enough of that from everybody else.

qwerty
qwerty
Jun 4, 2025 7:36 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Linguistic static? The paragraphs you identify serve as navigation aids, meaty section headlines without the bold. I liked them.

qwerty
qwerty
Jun 4, 2025 7:54 PM
Reply to  qwerty

In November 2023, NHS England contracted Palantir Technologies for a £330 million, seven-year project to overhaul its current technology system.
The contract is for the development and operation of the Federated Data Platform (FDP), which aims to centralize and manage patient data across the NHS.
Is that more ‘linguistic static’ Bloobock?

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 4, 2025 8:28 PM
Reply to  qwerty

With all due respect — yes, it is a canonical example of linguistic static. Go to ChatGPT and give it this prompt: “Write a three-paragraph article on the increasingly dystopian use of AI in 2025, with specific references to the aggregation of citizen data for surveillance, control, and other dystopian purposes. Be very specific about the companies and technologies involved, and the timing of developments.”

Compare the output.

When I call this article “linguistic static,” I mean that it contains no information that is not embedded in the machine that produced it. ChatGPT itself contains every thought humans have ever inscribed onto the internet, and thus contains more facts and factoids than could ever be contained in a human mind, but this does not change the fact that the output of ChatGPT is completely devoid of information.

It’s pink noise: white noise filtered through pink cellophane. It may seem to have a color, but it contains no information.

The fact that people will defend the “humanity” of inhuman slop like this means we’re all doomed. It’s only a temporary weakness of the technology that its stylistic signature is changing slowly enough for humans ever to catch onto it, however briefly. Soon, it will be changing faster than we can think… but it will never actually be thinking.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 4, 2025 9:55 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

If the article was written by a LLM then there would be a certain irony in the article decrying AI having been written by it.

Anyway, just the other day I was thinking that there hasn’t been an article from the Whiteheads for a while. Two months in fact, I was hoping they would make three, or four or….

It feels like Groundhog Day every article. You’re right that the articles lack passion, emotion or character but do have plenty of statements, facts and links.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Jun 4, 2025 10:14 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

one unarguable oddity of these pieces is that, even though the byline includes TWO authors, there’s always the plug at the end “as I point out in MY book”, not “we” in “our” book

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 7:00 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Better get used to it. When “acceleration” phase is over this will be the only article type you will meet everywhere! Cold rational Data ‘facts’.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 10:49 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Will there be an Erik version with your usual brand of sarcasm and irony?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 12:40 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

No. Its my own training and defence against it, and I know it will be dismissed and not tolerated in the long run. Why not?

Because people who have spent their time 10hrs/day over 10 years looking in a Smartphone screen and a Computer screen and taken their decisions and conclusions from it, will no more have the ability to connect their 5 senses to reality and make even the simple analysis I do here.

They never used their 5 senses in real life and will not be able to understand real living life ever again.

Roling Rock
Roling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 2:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Unfortunately as it stands on the current trajectory you will be correct. Especially as far as the young are concerned, the digital world is fast overtaking their sense of the physical reality.

It is not just the five senses, it is also the sixth sense being intution that is also lost and buried and under a pile of distractions and shrouded by white noise.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 5:47 PM
Reply to  Roling Rock

Agree. As the sixth sense is based on all 5 senses send their physical signals to it.
But I live in an area where these ancient people still exist and can be found.
A dentist who always make it in first shot (by free hand as she call it). Carpenters who love their work. Musicians who play with soul, lovers, m.m.
But you are right. Fewer and fewer. Pity on the confused.
comment image Dahlia Flower.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 4, 2025 8:07 PM
Reply to  qwerty

The fact that you liked this means that you were being exploited. This article was written by a large-language-model — this isn’t a guess or an assumption, it’s a provable fact. You can prove it to yourself by asking ChatGPT to write an article on this theme and comparing the tone and content. There was no human thought behind this, just a topic in a prompt. Everything else was automatic writing, unfiltered through any human experience, uncolored by emotion or passion or history.

If you’ve read more than a few sentences of it, your time was stolen from you in an absurdly cynical way. This is directly analogous to the injustice of monetary inflation via the Cantillon Effect. New money is created from nothing by a central bank and handed to a member bank, who hands it to wealthy shareholders, who buy real assets. The market hasn’t yet had time to “understand” that the money supply has suddenly increased, so these wealthy people were able to buy assets at the current pre-inflation prices.

By the time the money filters down to poor people — people without assets, only savings — it is worth far less. The market has adjusted to the increased money supply by raising prices across the board. Money was literally stolen from poor people and given to wealthy people.

It’s the same mechanism with this AI slop. You haven’t used ChatGPT enough yet to recognize its signature syntax, and you mistake its output as human-derived, or at least human-influenced. You assign it value because you imagine somebody quite like you put his own valuable time into writing it. But nobody put any time into writing it, so why are we expected to put time into reading it? The “author” produced this article with full awareness of the cynical, time-wasting effect it would have on naive readers. He wanted to benefit from the general public’s naivety about LLM syntax before the novelty had drained away.

By the time the average reader acquires a nose for the characteristic stink of AI slop circa June 2025, the LLMs will be speaking in the July 2025 syntax, and the “author” of this article will be producing another round of hollow linguistic static, stealing more time from tired readers, and column-inches from low-margin journalstic publications.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 4, 2025 8:48 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Continue to state this so boldly with no evidence and I’ll pop you on our premod list. Thanks, A2

antonym
antonym
Jun 5, 2025 1:57 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Join the crew down here. These mods only wake up at Atlantic timings so the rest of the world can take a hike.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jun 4, 2025 8:50 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Very impressive that you know enough about AI to recognize it when you read it. Wish I could do that. The trouble is, in order to be able to recognize AI prose, I would have to study it. And I hate studying things I hate. It’s like Billy Joel. I hate Billy Joel’s “music.” But, in order to write a critique of it, I would have to listen to it. And I don’t want to listen to it. It sucks. Thus, no critique from me.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 5, 2025 8:25 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

money filters down
That is “trickle-down” theory in different words. The entitled ogres only extract unearned income (suck blood).

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 12:44 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

I remember a former-USSR daily was called ‘Pravda’.
It was said to be nothing but slabs of humourless type.
I dont think it was written by ChatGTP…

dude
dude
Jun 4, 2025 8:12 PM
Reply to  qwerty

Lets ask a LLM what it thinks of this article:

The article employs repetitive rhetorical framing, short declarative sentence structures, and rhythmic, binary contrasts typical of LLM-generated text or heavily AI-assisted editing. Phrases like “This isn’t about A. It’s about B.” recur formulaically, lacking the semantic drift, nuance, or syntactic variation typical of unedited human prose. Thematic consistency, lexical echoing, and structural symmetry throughout suggest algorithmic optimization for clarity and emotional cadence over originality. It bears hallmarks of AI authorship or ghostwriting assistance.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 4, 2025 8:36 PM
Reply to  dude

I too pasted the above piece into an ‘AI’, therefore I know perfectly well you have quote mined ChatGPT extremely dishonestly here! If I catch you doing this again it goes straight in the bin. Thanks. A2

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 4, 2025 9:43 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

What was its response out of interest? Did you use ChatGPT?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 7:25 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

You can try it out yourself! 🙂

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 10:53 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

As the supposedly awake ones, are we not supposed to avoid feeding it more data and personal details?

Downloading the app would mean granting it all sorts of permissions and even deleting it afterwards is no guarantee that it has not left a little bit of itself on the device to have a snoop.

Using the browser version required a sign-in to access most of the features. Err…no thanks!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 11:47 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

I’m not certain, but I think we’re all probably contributing to the LLM by writing on a public forum! However, for your info, I did not sign in.

Ironically, you’ve made me spend more time on AI than I would normally getting this, but ChatGPT had this to say when I asked for a Tier Comparison:

  • Free (No Sign-In): Most limited — no tools, history, or personalization.
  • Free (Signed In): Gains access to chat history, voice, custom instructions, and canvas.
  • Plus: Unlocks GPT-4o, tools like DALL·E and Python, memory, browsing, and file handling.
  • Pro/Team: Adds team-focused features, admin tools, and enterprise-grade support.

So short of paying I don’t think signing in or not makes much difference to one on one interactions.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 5, 2025 1:18 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks for the info.

Difficult to know if the comments here do end up in a LLM, although I am sure that the data does end up being analyzed somewhere and somehow for various purposes.

Into the pot it goes along with data from every other means of communication.

qwerty
qwerty
Jun 6, 2025 9:28 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

but he admitted that that’s what he did. And he did it to obtain a LLM assessment of the article, which I found convincing. You not overreaching a bit here Sam?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 6, 2025 5:01 PM
Reply to  qwerty

huh? I know he was quote mining because I read the whole breakdown given by the LLM, dealing in the probabilities of each scenario. This was 100% cherry picked and done so extremely dishonestly.

If in doubt, paste in the above article and see for yourself 😀

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Jun 4, 2025 10:26 PM
Reply to  dude

the absurdity of today’s world is that. to detect AI DeepFakes, we appeal to

another AI system!

apparently such AI-buster AI tools arei now marketed to educational institutions to assist, or perhaps more aptly, guide, teachers in sniffing out cheating among their pupils

the ironies are unending

first to expose that the writing assignments these pedagogues have thought up to measure learners’ intellectual abilities, as it turns out, require absolutely nothing beyond the capacity to crank out mechanical imitations of understanding, which can be done equally well by an algorithm

quite an indictment of the school system!

and then, that the administrators can think of no other response than to arm themselves with the same algorithmic crutch that the cheaters are relying on

why not just let the two computer programs duke it out in cyberspace and all the human beings can go have a picnic together under a tree instead of wasting all their time in some classroom?

sandy
sandy
Jun 5, 2025 6:39 PM

Love that last paragraph, where I hope we are all headed to, out of this room-full-of-mirrors internet media fraud.

dude
dude
Jun 7, 2025 10:39 AM

If oyu use LLM’s a lot you are familiar with its style. The above sounds 100% like chatGPT. No other AI needed to confirm. I just posted it because even AI agrreed with my assesement.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 1:11 AM
Reply to  qwerty

Dot points. Common as.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 10:33 AM
Reply to  qwerty

Navigational aids? Where are we going? Who or what is navigating?

‘Golden shower’ anyone?

BTW…they were sentences, not paragraphs.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 4, 2025 8:46 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

This is your opinion only. Please provide actual evidence for stating such things or I’ll bin the comment in future. It’s a cheap shot to declare your opinion as fact, It’s discourteous to the writers and you should know better, frankly. Thank you, A2

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 4, 2025 9:01 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

This is an impossible request, so I expect the comments to be binned. I can’t prove that any text was produced by ChatGPT any more than I can prove that kittens are cute.

I ask you — you, Sam, not some abstract “the reader” character — to compare all of the Whiteheads’ contributions to those by your other frequent contributors. Do you detect the obvious humanity of, say, Todd Hayen in any Whitehead articles? Mr. Hayen himself is evident in every one of his sentences. He’s a grump, he feels personally betrayed by the unthinking hordes, he’s close to giving up.

Do you see any of Edward Curtin’s — the dreamy, nostalgic latter-day hippy — humanity in the Whitehead articles? Or Kit Knightly’s bitter sarcasm, or Sylvia Shawcross’ autumnal and very personal prose poetry?

Whitehead articles have no trace of humanity. You see no facets of the Whiteheads themselves refracting through the crystal of ChatGPT because ChatGPT does not contain the Whiteheads. It only contains facts and factoids.

les online
les online
Jun 4, 2025 11:36 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Whitehead’s a lawyer, isnt he ?

“Just The Facts. ma’am, Just The Facts !” … (Stan Freberg)

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 5, 2025 6:53 AM
Reply to  les online

The truth and nothing but the truth.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 11:05 AM
Reply to  les online

Lawyer? That’s a good thing? Lawyers speak a language of almost total linguistic static. A language designed to keep us under the control of who has the most money to buy the judge. Facts and truth be damned. Lawyers like Louie Nizer or Jerry Spence are few and far between.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 12:50 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

I’ve always had the impression that the Whiteheads are beating their own drum, over and over and over.

Have you ever listened to a passionate person go on and on about one subject?
They become a tad tiresome.

All of us are guilty/susceptible of tirades now and then.

Cut em some slack.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 5, 2025 1:33 AM
Reply to  Johnny

It’s the proverbial slippery slope, though. Real humans learn to write — and, in a very real sense, to think — by absorbing the patterns of expression they’re exposed to. If we tolerate the intrusion of thoughtless AI into content that is presented to us as “human,” real humans are going to absorb these artificial expressions of humanity without knowing that they’re artificial. Kids will emulate this crap.

Mere exposure to AI slop drains us of our humanity.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 5, 2025 2:24 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

There’s only so many words of common usage.
Sports coaches are a good example of the same old spin over and over. Advertising is another, or even ‘Love’ songs.

AI can’t think or create in the human sense, because it can’t be illogical or emotional.
Surely passion cannot be programmed. Can it?

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 11:36 AM
Reply to  Johnny

One would have to believe that our passion is genuine. Difficult, to be certain with our track record as well as already knowing that we are illogical.

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 11:09 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

Too late

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 7:24 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

This is an impossible request…I can’t prove that any text was produced by ChatGPT any more than I can prove that kittens are cute.

Precisely my point, obviously. Therefore learn to couch things in less certain terms, and ideally do some research.

You apparently know little enough about AI to test your hypothesis on any AI spotting software, therefore reflect this uncertainty in your opinions, otherwise it is slanderous and insulting to the writers.

This way madness lies lol Everyone will be accusing everyone else of being AI. Will anyone be real in the comments? Dead Internet theory etc. A2

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 5, 2025 3:41 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

What I mean is that I can convince ten million people that kittens are cute by showing each of them a single photograph, but there’s no number that would satisfy your burden of proof. I asked you, instead, to prove it to yourself. LLMs are statistical models designed to replicate language by producing words — or, more accurately, “tokens” — in the order that occurs most frequently in the training corpus. It will always, by definition, sound human to a human ears in small doses; but will also, by definition, sound repetitive and mechanical in large doses.

I wrote this comment two weeks ago on VN Alexander’s article about AI alignment. Specifically, I said this:

For instance, AI-generated text produced in the past few months has been overwhelmingly colored by a preference for Hemingway-ishly short phrases and micro-paragraphs which mostly fill out a very rigid template: “Not [A]. [B.]” That is, they express their “thoughts” first by showing a counter-example designed to represent the common slob’s first guess at the point, and then quickly following with the necessary correction to the slob’s misinterpretation which turns the slob’s ignorance into insight.

The first time you read one of these statements, it hits the mind as a kinda/sorta flavor of “intelligence” — the thing was at least human enough to guess what we were thinking before we even guessed it ourselves. But once you read a few of these responses, all of it collapses into a dismally monotonic format devoid of content. The AI wasn’t guessing at what we were thinking. It was explicitly trained to preferentially start sentences with, “Not…,” to then predict at what words typically followed a sentence-initiating “not” in the training corpus, and to blather on mindlessly via word-association until some stopping condition is met.

The Whitehead article above uses this precise construction five times explicitly. Are you honestly arguing that this is a coincidence, and that I know nothing about LLMs?

Both the secondary training pass, called RLHF (Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback) and post-training hard-coded algorithmic hints force — literally force — the LLM to default to a small subset of linguistic structures and cliches, including the “Not A; B”-construction. Without these and other “hints,” the LLMs get stuck, repeat themselves, or, in the worst case, begin to spew garbage tokens. Parkinson’s patients exhibit similar pathologies; they can freeze in place like statues when attempting to walk from a standing stop, unable to begin the movement, but a gentle push from behind can get them past the blockage and initiate the hard-wired neuro-muscular walking cycle.

“Not A; B” is one of the “pushes” hard-wired into LLMs, and it would work the same on a human beings because these RLHF techniques have their origins in human debating tricks and tactics. Simply forcing the LLM to say the words, “It’s not because…” will initiate a seemingly meaningful torrent of language. The statistical proximity of other tokens guarantees that whatever it says after those words will be “on topic.”

Honestly, what do you consider more likely, Sam? That I pointed out this very specific indicator of LLM-generated text on your own site two weeks ago and then the Whiteheads reproduced it five times explicitly in a genuinely human-written article that otherwise contains no personality, human anecdotes or emotions and is nearly identical to every other article they’ve published in the recent past; or that “Not A; B” is genuinely a marker of LLM-generated text?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 5:27 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

will initiate a seemingly meaningful torrent of language.

Well look who’s talking,

And citing oneself is not winnng any arguments here.

Based on your above deduction, perhaps I conclude YOU are AI. Therefore I predict, as evidence (since we are allowed to do this apparently), that you will:

“respond with spiteful outrage, or otherwise passive-aggressive contempt, and one way or another cry foul at your treatment by Admin and/or this site, while overall denigrating Off-guardian’s honourable intentions, or otherwise withhold regular human friendliness or empathy and generally dehumanise and objectivise your interlocutor into some sort of universal oppressor against which you must rail.”

There, get out of that one.

A2

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 5, 2025 9:38 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

There, get out of that one.

Get out of what? This isn’t a fight to the death, it’s a conversation.

I don’t recall ever expressing any negative opinions about “Admin” or the moderation policies on this site. You told me my comments would be binned, and I took you at your word without complaint… but they weren’t binned, which is honourable.

And you have an obligation to presume the humanity and noble intentions of your contributors. Defending them is the only honourable path for you, and I wouldn’t respect you if you followed any other.

But kittens are cute and this article was written by ChatGPT.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 5, 2025 10:24 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

I noticed immediately after posting it that I myself just used the “Not A; B”-construction in the previous comment. If the “Edit” button still existed, I might have modified it (like a coward), but it actually supports my anti-LLM stance more than it weakens it.

I stated in earlier comments (and in the nauseatingly self-referenced comment from two weeks ago, which I have now self-referenced a second time) that the danger of AI lies in the unavoidability of human absorption of LLM stylistic quirks. It’s how language works, it’s how we learned to talk in the first place. We repeat what we hear and read. We can try to boycott the structures that LLMs use in excess, but we won’t be successful without removing our tongues.

In the field of LLM development, what just happened to me is called “model collapse.” It happens when a neural network has run out of real-world training data and starts training on synthetic data instead — that is, data which was produced either by itself or by some other neural network.

A certain degree of synthetic data doesn’t seem to be catastrophic to AI models, but past some threshold, it drastically reduces the fidelity of the output. In LLMs, this means more (and more ridiculous) hallucinations, more babbling, more freezes.

Since LLMs produce language in very similar ways to humans, we ourselves are vulnerable to the very same pathologies. Human minds can also experience model collapse when exposed to too much synthetic data… or, at any rate, it would be very dangerous to presume we are not vulnerable to this.

That’s why I am so enraged by the idea of LLM-written articles being presented with human bylines. We don’t have the tools now, in AI’s infancy, to distinguish between human and LLM prose. If we did have them, they would be incorporated into the reward function that shapes the behavior of the LLM, eliminating the give-aways before we ever detected them.

LLM technology itself is an arms race to defeat the human-sniffing intuition of biological humans, and we aren’t going to win, but that doesn’t mean we should read its output with a smile. We have to go down fighting.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 11:09 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

you have an obligation to presume the humanity and noble intentions

As do we all.

Defending them is the only honourable path for you,

As for us all.

Perhaps we should take care to practice what we preach, and be careful of handing over our individual agency.

We are only a small alt news platform here. No, our incredible and generous writers are not computers. No, we are not media tycoons or even two bit intelligence operatives (as many here enjoy alleging on a daily basis hehe).

I certainly look forward to more people like yourself assuming the ‘humanity and noble intentions’ of this site, and deciding that the ‘only honourable path’ is to defend it for a change!! As you concede, we’ve done alright by you so far.

If you feel like chipping in to help this forum self-moderate, you’d be very welcome. Together we are strong!

A2

Bloobock
Bloobock
Jun 6, 2025 1:40 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

You’re right, you’re underappreciated and that’s not fair. I do value your efforts and that of the work of all of your contributors… except for the Whiteheads, who pass of AI slop as original work.

You have no responsibility to continue to presume the humanity of writers who have demonstrated contempt for the site by submitting identical slop-pieces for years. Nobility is a human attribute; it cannot be demonstrated by a machine, nor should it be defended after it’s been proven not to exist.

This is the last I’ll say on this subject: go to ChatGPT[.com] and give it this prompt in three separate chats: “Tell me, in a passionate and forceful tone, about the plight of modern day humanity when faced with the ever-growing threat of impersonal, technocratic bureaucracies.”

That is, go to “New chat” and give it that prompt; then “New chat again,” and so on. It will give different variations each time. Read each of them. Note how many times it uses the “Not A; B” construction, and note the consistent tone across all three different responses.

Next, read this Whitehead article.

Finally, read any article written by any of the site’s other hard-working contributors.

You cannot perform this experiment without concluding that the Whiteheads’ scam is indefensible. It is a crime against this site, and an insult to its human writers.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 6, 2025 5:46 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Nobility is a human attribute; it cannot be demonstrated by a machine, nor should it be defended after it’s been proven not to exist.

Your beef with the Whiteheads seems personal. While at the same time your prose resembles AI a bit here!

But this way madness lies. Instead, focus on the meaning, the sourced statements, follow the links etc. and ask yourself whether the information is useful.

I will close up this chat by adding that rhetorical devices such as ‘Not A; B’ have been used way before AI. I did try your AI prompt, three times. I didn’t observe what you predicted on these occasions. Perhaps the algorithm fluctuates.

We must show restraint before we accuse people of things.Your chosen prompt might coincidentally have elicited a similar writing style. Whose fault would that be? It wouldn’t be proof of anything in that case, would it?

I ask that you express your suspicions more moderately in future. I won’t let any more with this highly accusatory tone through. A2

PS. I do appreciate your kind words also, but please be aware you’re stating some pretty heinous accusations against our writers here, based on – I feel – circumstantial evidence at best, therefore I can’t big up the appreciation vibes as much as I’d like.

les online
les online
Jun 5, 2025 11:46 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

Only a Scientist can prove kittens are cute,
because they know how to quantify quality…

Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 5, 2025 1:01 PM
Reply to  les online

They also lie.

CBL
CBL
Jun 5, 2025 8:06 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

Censored ‘facts or factoids’..as personalised to the individual, based on an analysis of their digital footprint (and other data) and subsequent categorisation within pre-defined ‘groups’.

sandy
sandy
Jun 5, 2025 6:49 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The idea that writers here cannot offer opinions, no matter how crazy, is ridiculous. Everyone here is expressing their opinion. That’s what a comment section is for. I don’t personally like how many of these diatribes go off a cliff, but there we are. A society of misinformed or not, or bot/troll spun, or not. We are adult enough to decipher, and move on, right?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 10:49 PM
Reply to  sandy

Yes, I’m sure you’d stoically pick through hundreds of spam comments if we didn’t filter them. You can’t bring yourself to be friendly to this site for a minute, but if we just did better I’m sure you’d have a change of heart.

What do think, we were born yesterday? 😂🤣

Still we continue to publish these messages from you, rather undermining your point. We should definitely hold this kinda repetitive trolling back tbf.

A2

sandy
sandy
Jun 5, 2025 11:43 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I am reading these threads to get a sense of what people are thinking and i responded to someone who voiced reluctance to speak about certain topics and made comment. That is all. But you had to take it as personal offense rather than a general discussion toward how ideas are being manipulated and censored by the very nature of the internet form of communication and how this is being managed by organizations. Internet sites are a two-way mirror spaces where visitors and users can never be sure what is and what is not being presented to them on their screens. It is a deep incapacity of the way the internet is configured that warrants attention. If not fixed soon it will be abandoned. Imho.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 5, 2025 11:55 PM
Reply to  sandy

If not fixed soon it will be abandoned. Imho.

You might not have as much complaint here as you think. Ultimately, a dead internet is a level playing field. You can’t fake and obfuscate or replicate the small, meaningful, real-world exchanges in this world. You can’t pump day-to-day life full of surreal psyops and deep fakes to discombobulate and disconnect us from meaningful reality. Yes, we’d notionally have lower horizons without the interweb, but in practice, nowadays, how many people would actually agree with this?

Still, keep venting at Offg, one of the last bastions of unregulated web space, if you think this helps.

Oh no, wait, we’re actually just as bad as everyone else, if not worse. Therefore you’re fulfilling a public service, I’m sure 🙄 A2

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 6, 2025 12:31 AM
Reply to  sandy

We shouldn’t just bicker all the time. That way the machine wins.

Right now I’m listening to James Horner movie soundtracks. What kind of music do you like?

sandy
sandy
Jun 6, 2025 12:56 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

You got that right. Trip Hop is my fav but my core like is Jazz and improvisational rock/electronic. But I like all music except the new Country pop. Stumbled onto Rae & Christian. Love Charlie Hunter’s work with a Norwegian duo. Recently saw King Crimson locally totally on their game at highest level. Unforgettable. I grew up with the radio on 24/7. Music is the best of the arts. Imho.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 6, 2025 11:32 AM
Reply to  sandy

Nice. I generally enjoy individual pieces of music, rather than being limited to genres. There’s nothing like a certain genre or beat to hit the sweet spot sometimes, however, to focus the mind or cater to the mood. I have shortfalls as a DJ myself, and I sometimes pop Mozart on when it should be enigma, etc. That’s a little blind spot of mine, I guess.

Little insight into me! But overall, I enjoy having eclectic tastes. Music is a great uniter of minds. A2

sandy
sandy
Jun 6, 2025 6:20 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Agreed. For classical, I like Mozart and Bach and chamber music, but listen rarely. I used to haunt Amoeba Records in Berkely buying used CDs of electronic or anything I’ve heard on college radio that i haven’t heard before. US college radio discloses the vast amount of truly innovative music the commercial stations never touch. The only place for me on the radio now. The old days in SF we had KMPX FM. No commercials, long album cuts and cultural hippie swag.

https://pmamagazine.org/tuning-into-the-future-the-day-kmpx-fm-redefined-radio/

College radio is like an infinite style home-made version of KMPX.

les online
les online
Jun 6, 2025 12:30 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

I buy more linguistic static every visit to the local supermarket…
I dont look for Something New to Sample, something that’ll
brighten my day… I ‘overcook’ the linguistic static as al dente
is a bit hard to chew with no teeth…