The Real Agenda Behind the “Burqa Ban”
Kit Knightly
Two days ago, Reform Party MP Sarah Pochin made a splash when she called for the British government to ban the burqa.
Many European countries – including France and Belgium – have already banned the garment, and somewhat ironically the Euro-sceptic Reform party seems keen to join them.
It is increasingly common for those on the authoritarian “left” to argue for banning burqas on the grounds they are oppressive and misogynistic, while the right encompasses those angles alongside xenophobic ideas of “security” – meaning it’s dangerous to let Muslims conceal their faces because they might blow up or something.
I oppose the burqa ban on simple grounds – I don’t believe the government has the right to tell anyone what to wear, or indeed what not to wear. And I believe empowering it to make those decisions is wrong and potentially very dangerous to individual liberty.
But that’s surface level analysis.
Let’s dig a little deeper – what is this really about?
Well, Puchin’s fellow Reform MP Lee Anderson somewhat gave the game away when he tweeted about this proposed ban yesterday…
Ban the burqa?
Yes we should.
No one should be allowed to hide their identity in public. https://t.co/cLHL1XoDyd
— Lee Anderson MP (@LeeAndersonMP_) June 4, 2025
Nobody should be allowed to conceal their identity? Excuse me?
You see, that’s what this is really about. Burqas cover your face, which makes it possible to hide from CCTV, and facial recognition cameras and all the other jolly conveniences of modern living.
This is about increasing the reach and efficiency of surveillance tools. Yet more technocratic control being introduced through weaponized politics of concern on both wings – “terrorism” and “public security” on the right, and anti-misogyny “feminism” on the left.
Don’t believe me? Well, I submit into evidence this Spectator article published yesterday.
It argues that there’s nothing Islamophobic about banning the burqa because many Muslim-majority countries have already done it, and that burqas are both a potential tool for terrorists and an attack on female identities.
It’s not hard to see where go from here.
The “burqa ban” will be introduced, only it won’t say “burqa”. Keir Starmer’s “sensible” Labour party will get ahold of it, and forge a “common sense middle ground” approach.
“We agree that security concerns are important, they’ll say, “but singling out the Islamic community is wrong, so we should phrase it more generally.”
And in the end the “burqa ban” will be a “whole face covering garment ban” or something else ridiculously vague, and will empower the the police to force anyone with a hoodie or a ski mask or even big dark glasses to reveal their face.
How do I know that?
Because that’s exactly what happened in France, where a a push to ban the burqa resulted in the 2010 Act banning whole-face coverings in public places.
The state doesn’t care about race or religion, the state only cares about control, and creating a lovely egalitarian future where everyone, regardless of colour or creed, is oppressed perfectly equally.
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The new look duck lips and fake teeth and sun tan is scary.
So how did Pochin get to ask a question – 1 of 15? On average, an MP would be waiting at least half a year before getting to ask a question. But for Pochin, it was just a month.
It all sounds rigged: the altercation leading to the by-election; the election result; all of it. Maybe Amesbury was in on it. Or maybe they knew he had a short fuse and could be provoked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Pochin
MP for Runcorn and Helsby
Assumed office: May 1, 2025
Formerly a Conservative councillor who later sat as an independent member, she left the party and joined Reform UK. She currently holds the record for the smallest margin of victory in modern British by-election history, having overturned Labour’s 14,700 majority from the 2024 general election by just six votes.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Amesbury
In January 2025, Amesbury pleaded guilty to common assault and was sentenced to ten weeks in prison. On appeal, his prison sentence was upheld, but suspended for two years. In March 2025, he resigned from his seat in Parliament.
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https://order-order.com/2025/06/04/pmqs-whos-asking-the-questions-168/
PMQs: Who’s Asking the Questions?
June 4, 2025
Clive Efford (Lab)
Rachel Gilmour (LibDem)
Brendan O’Hara (SNP)
Sarah Pochin (Ref)
Ruth Jones (Lab)
Jess Brown-Fuller (LibDem)
Manuela Perteghella (LibDem)
Lincoln Jopp (Con)
Alex Barros-Curtis (Lab)
Graeme Downie (Lab)
Gregory Stafford (Con)
Scott Arthur (Lab)
Sarah Dyke (LibDem)
David Taylor (Lab)
David Davis (Con)
To most Americans, this nutty European hoo-hah about burqas is utterly incomprehensible. It’s kind of like trying to tell the difference between Protestant and Catholic Irishmen. Americans can’t do it. Drunk on Bushmill’s vs.Drunk on Jameson’s, perhaps?
For the second time a comment I posted became “Pending” then did not appear at all. There was nothing controversial about it, nor did it disagree with what Mr.Knightly wrote. So I’m at a loss to determine what it was that caused its disappearance. And since I don’t visit this site for enlightenment, only for the lively Comment Forum, if I can no longer participate in the comments, OffG has lost its one and only appeal.
BTW, a “reply” I posted today has appeared. But a reply is not the same as an original comment.
I am on pending many times, but I take it as an advantage that someone look through what I read, and if the submitted comment is too controversial, I am happy that Sam2 would erase it for example.
To tell the truth I experienced the same as you only one time. I submitted something under one of Todd’s articles, a longer tirade about IPCC, the Universe and the unpredictable Weather due to a non linear chaotic universal system.
First it was in ‘pending’, the next day it disappeared. Only this one time it happened for me.
If now it was Sam2 or Todd who did it, everything would be ok. It is their right if they think something is too controversial and jeopardize something. After all its their life and bread which are on the Roulette.
But, the reason why I anyway are curious about who tf made it disappear, is the suspicion about the Intelligence Agencies and their backdoors and their logarithms build into the systems.
It could be build into the computer, into the country’s IT Corporation, into the global Corp (Microsoft), into OffG’s home page, where ever.
I would never as you accuse/threaten the link owner/Home page owner.
I met the same story when I cleaned up in my Facebook kicking 4/5 out simply because I didnt want to use the media more, but out of necessity I had to maintain some long distance contacts why I let them be there for convenience for both.
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Some of my “friends” got so pessed that they declared they never ever wanted to have any contact with me again………………LOL.
Cool down Howard. Cool: https://youtu.be/a92LKesAPAo .
bitcoin fixes this
That’s happened to me before too. It’s distressing, confusing and deflating. But as comment sections go, this is still one of the most open. I’ve chosen to chalk it up to algorithm malfunction rather than human malice. I don’t often agree with you, but you’re nearly always interesting. Stick around.
Straight outta Kabul!
Here is before Perfidious Albion and G.Bush invaded Afghanistan and made “Regime Change Operation” in Kabul:
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Taliban and ISIS and Radical Islam is an British Invention.
In the 1960’es
I had a colleague some years ago who was a mulah. He was obviously very devout and had wide knowledge of many religions, not just Islam, but he was also a normal human being. You learned a lot just chatting with him over lunch. One thing he told me about female dress is that the only stricture in Islam is that women are required to dress ‘modestly’, there is absolutely nothing in Islam that mandates head to toe covering. So there might be a cultural reason behind the burqa in some societies but the only reason you’d wear it in a European society is if you wanted to be as ‘in your face’ as possible. Its just a fashion statement, like t-shirts or colored hair or overly revealing dress. Its not popular among our societies because the prevailing custom is to be able to see a person’s face, its part of how we communicate, so shutting yourself off behind a wall implies that you’re not interested in being part of our society. As an advertisement for Islam its counterproductive — my colleague did far more to proselytize Islam by being both normal but at the same time uncompromising in his faith, just like other devout believers (who he respected equally regardless of their faith). Wandering up the High Street looking like an extra from a 1920s desert saga silent movie — that’s silly.
Incidentally, I ride motorcycles and when I do I wear a full face helmet. There are many places like banks where I’d be politely asked to remove it if I hadn’t already done so.
Or not so politely asked to remove it, as happened to a guy in a Walmart store, not even in a bank.
https://www.motorious.com/articles/features-3/wearing-helmet-in-businesses/
Try to pull a toy gun up in the bank and your helmet will be outlawed the day after.
Normally I agree with your comments – but not this one. No matter how reasonably you present it, your entire argument rests on one assumption: that Western culture is something everyone should aspire to. And as a corollary, that anyone exposed to Western culture would necessarily wish to assimilate into it.
Added to this, the fact remains, no matter what a Middle-Eastern person does – even if a Muslim woman dons a mini-skirt, halter top and purple hair…she will still be perceived as different. Because she is different. Why should she try to hide her difference when she’s still going to be perceived as an outsider?
If men were also required by al-ha to cover every inch of their person, this whole discussion probably wouldnt even exist.
BAN IT.
Ah yes, let’s BAN anything we do not agree with, anything we may not fully understand either. What else should we BAN? I’m sure someone somewhere has many ideas on all the things that “should be” banned. If you don’t realize by this late date that giving the state more power to ban things could rapidly become problematic for far more people than just Muslim women, then you are part of the problem.
Do not comply.
I agree with Zia Yusuf, Reform Chairman, the idea is dumb. From SPECTATOR:
While all citizens in liberal democracies should have absolute freedom to choose how they wish to dress at home, any public spaces and institutions that mandate universal dress codes should make no exception for any religion.
This is especially true when public safety and security is at stake. There’s nothing ‘Islamophobic’ about calling for a burqa ban.
Yes there is. UN Human Rights Code:
“Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”
That is why Trump wanted to change Harvard and Yale’s dumb Liberal selection style after colour, religion, political, favourism, to merit (MAGA).
Because merit is the only non-discriminatory tool we have to promote society and civilisation where we all belong.
What will you do if an excellent Physician, Architect, Ballet Dancer, Boxer, Nurse, Einstein, arrive?
Banning them out because of a piece of cotton crying Security Reasons is pure cut clean discrimination.
Again, a lot of people are sadly dumb.
All face covering and head coverings should be banned
especially the lems and crazy chrdoom lot
take note how this batshit lot ain’t mentioned.
Heil.
Always only the religion that before the colonization period, only Europeans professed.. Do you have anything to say about Islam as well? (Or do you not have such professional obligations?) 😉
This one’s the office junior, cutting their teeth on the easy work – Christian bashing. Basic pay plus a bit of overtime.
The more experienced get to go in at the deep end in the places online where the Muslims hang out. That comes with a monthly bonus, danger money, free private healthcare and dental insurance, funeral costs and a change of identity if required.
This one’s the office junior, cutting their teeth on the easy work – Christian bashing. Basic pay plus a bit of overtime.
The more experienced get to go in at the deep end in the places online where the Muslims hang out. That comes with a monthly bonus, danger money, free private healthcare and dental insurance, funeral costs and a change of identity if required.
I definitely take your point that – banning the burqa, is about identification and the burqa and similar head coverings prohibit that – but I also think that all religions are oppressive, and that women have been conditioned from a young age to were the burqa, and that’s why they embrace it.
The plan for full scale identification is well underway – my local Tesco’s has facial recognition scanners as soon as you walk in the door, infact you don’t even need to enter the shop – as the system is positioned close to the doors of the shop, in which it can just scan outside them.
Now if you use biometrics on say your phone, laptop or tablet for security reasons, that data is harvested and stored for future reference, to help track our online use, itsgetting to the point that we are surveilled 24/7.
So you’re saying that their religion is so oppressive that the state shouldn’t let them practice it?
That is an important detail. I would say that all government’s and people’s reason to hate religion is that it is a thing outside their control.
If you follow an ethic code in the said religion’s Scriptures, for example the 10 Commandments, you are outside the whole group think the national states and governments are build on.
Their whole Justice and Court system, all Lawyers, all laws and rules, become indifferent the moment people choose God as their Superior.
You are riding the high horse, and they ride the little ponies.
“I dont kill, cheat, lie, covet, wish no ill for anybody, nor have any idols but God, screw your clown circus”!
Man created god and religions – to basically exert a form of control – that’s roughly what religion is all about appeasement, in one for or another to whichever religion you belong to – as George Carlin (comedian) once said, if you really want to worship something worship the sun, it gives us heat, light, energy and grows our food – and its visible and always present unlike any so called god.
Though for me, science, and advancements in it, for the good of mankind and the planet – is for me the one that we should all follow.
You have no proof of your first statement of belief, and your last statement is a worship of the Science religion.
We worship God to GIVE, not the sun to only RECEIVE.(G. Carlin).
The two both, are the Pentagram on its head.
“You have no proof of your first statement of belief”
Its the ONLY logical explanation – for centuries the church persecuted men of science – such as Galileo and Copernicus for their scientific discoveries, science is real, the discoveries from science are real – no god is real, and its up to the claimer to prove that their IS a god, of course its impossible to prove such a thing – for in reality no god or gods exist.
This discussion has already been done for centuries with Science.
The watchmaker argument: You take a watch up and say to yourself:”No animal on this earth could have made it, some intelligent feature must have designed and created it”.
Same with the earth, the sun and the regulating planets. Its too intelligent to have arrived there ‘all by itself during millions of billions of years’. Some intelligent feature must have designed it.
Your references from Galilei and Coper is from a time where many discoveries were done………and later revised. Like the church had to revise their flat earth understanding.
I see nothing wrong in searching for answers to how things are put together and get an understanding how our physical world functions.
The problem only appear when Science try to undo and revise prevailing conditions for example manipulation of dna and manipulation of weather, m.m. Then you break universal law and jeopardise us all.
Take the water cycle, evaporation of the sea, virgin water in the clouds, wind and cooled off over land, rain to all living, surplus and dirty water back to the salty sea to be cleaned, evaporation again.
It can only have been designed. “It came there all by itself”, no!
One seed or sperm + egg grow up to a complicated living thing.
“It came here with a fish who suddenly got 4 legs and began to walk on land? No.
Its a sad story that Science never got further than to the monkey theory.
“This discussion has already been done for centuries with Science”.
No what you mean, is this discussion has been going on for centuries with religion in mind – science isn’t in question here – science has proved many things – no religion and I mean NO religion has proved the existence of any god.
Now prove to me that god exists – no topic diversions please.
I already know the answer – so my question is irrelevant.
yes you are right its an ongoing discussion never finished.
Then what is your conditions of proof?
The Creation believer’s conditions of proof, is that we look in the Scriptures, then we go out in the real physical world to see whether the said could be or is true.
Science “proof” is often statistic or a report stamped by Authority.
If you take the sun, moon, earth, the regulating planets, and their interconnections, plus all the protective sphere layers before the cosmic rays reach safely the earth.
Its too intelligent to have arrived there “all by itself”. This physical reality is in our opinion “proof” enough.
You have also Priests, Cardinals, Monks, who after many years of studying the Scriptures, end up with a burning desire to meet this omnipotent feature……….
and who describe in their memorials the chocking moment when this ‘I am’ one day stood in front of them. How small and zero they were feeling about themselves.
This is the only proofs I can serve you with. All the best with your blind goat in Science.
Finally – a somewhat reluctant admission, that you can’t prove that god exists – no one can.
Yes you can, by simply stopping your internal dialogue for a short time and you will experience to truth of the existence of a deity. I will no longer be a mere so-called scientific belief.
Just like light, God can be removed from the equation without breaking it, so Carlin may have been on to something for once. But we can all see. God is not just another thing that may or may not exists in the universe, hence the attempt to prove God’s existence from within the universe is futile.
Again, what is your conditions of proof? Do you want to see him physically to accept his existence??
Maybe we can arrange something.
It is true that there is no scientific proof for the existence of an overarching deity. On the other hand you can find thousands of atheists on the internet that have changed their mind after experiencing a NDE, e.g. a near-death-experience.
The reason why there is no scientific proof of the existence of a deity is because of the belief that matter is the ultimate reality and our observation of matter is somehow seperate from what we observe.
Since the quantum revolution a hundred years ago phyisist discovered that no such seperation exists.
“Natural science does not simply describe and explain nature… it describes nature as exposed to our method of questioning. This was a possibility of which Descartes could not have thought, but it makes a sharp separation between the world and I impossible.” — Werner Heisenberg (1901-1976) one of the founders of quantum theory (my italics)
“I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing postulates consciousness.” — Max Planck (1858-1947) German theoretical physicist who originated quantum theory, which won him the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1918.
Our method of questioning during the application of the empirical method assumes a separation between the observer and what is observed. The founders of quantum mechanics and many other physicists point out that this assumption is false. Yet the whole edifice of the scientific endeavour that underpins of our technological civilisation is still in denial that consciousness is primary in the universe. While in this state of super consciousness, this state of non-dual awareness, there are no boundaries anywhere. Boundaries are conceptual constructs created by the interpretations of our sense perceptions of the matter-energy field.
“No phenomenon is physical until it is an observed phenomenon.” — John Wheeler, physicist (1911-2008)
“… the very study of the external world led to the scientific conclusion that the content of consciousness is the ultimate universal reality.”
–Physicist and Nobel prize laureate Eugene Paul Wigner
I maintain that the human mystery is incredibly demeaned by scientific reductionism, with its claim in promissory materialism to account eventually for all of the spiritual world in terms of patterns of neuronal activity. This belief must be classed as a superstition. . . . we have to recognize that we are spiritual beings with souls existing in a spiritual world as well as material beings with bodies and brains existing in a material world. — Sir John Carew Eccles 4
Matter is energy and we are immersed in an energetic universe. There is no empty space anywhere. The right half of our brains receives the raw data from the universe and our left brain picks out the details to construct “physical reality”.
To realise this, all you have to do is to stop the internal dialogue going on in you left brain and you will become aware of the raw data and that your conscious awareness shifts into the realisation that the matter-energy is conscious.
As the saying goes, there are many roads that lead to Rome. Likewise there are many methods that lead to non-dual awareness. It is up to the individual find your way to a non-dual (not two) experience
So everything that we “observe” is conscious. This holographic quality of reality is beautifully expressed by the poet William Blake, from the Auguries of Innocence:
“To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour.”
Sir Eccles is a good ref from Science. There is a reason why we have religion all over the world in a variation of forms.
Our uniqueness, and our connection to cosmos as one. Here Black Elk.
And what about masks? They are going to ban them also, after all this propaganda during “pandemic “?
Good observation, logical. You won’t find that in the hypocritical MSM.
How many left in the EU? 33?
Sunbeds will also be banned in the New Normal. ‘Browning up’ will be outlawed and deemed racist. The perps will easily be spotted and brought to justice since the sun is blocked out by chemtrailing.
They are selective. They will both be forced to bear and banned at the same time.
Its called “Full Spectrum Warfare”.
Personally, my bet is all that mask idiocy was very possibly used to help our owners develop facial recognition tools that can work around a mask. We’ll see how that works out for all those supposedly virtuous protestors who can’t seem to leave home without their masks. You gotta love it – bucking “the Man” whilst wearing the ultimate symbol of compliance. And let’s don’t forget, all those “peaceful protestors” sporting that mark of compliance with idiocy would not have hesitated for one hot minute to incarcerate those refusing to comply with that same Man they claim to be fighting. Stupidity now passes for intellect, and hypocrisy is a virtue.
A “reform” party voting for more government. Surely not!
Nigel Farage:
Are we really going to trust the same people, the same Cabinet ministers, who made such a mess of testing in the early days?
Whose almost every promise they have failed to deliver upon. Or is it time to think about a different approach?
It is time to have a Government, and to have people leading it, who’ve got genuine talent even if they disagree on many other policy matters.
This Cabinet is the most inexperienced, the most low grade, I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.
If ever there was a moment to call for a Government of all the talents, much as I don’t like Tony Blair, he does get things done, he commands respect, he is seriously bright.
Why not get people like Tony Blair involved to help us solve a national crisis?
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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/nigel-farage-calls-for-tony-blair-to-become-uks-vaccination-tsar-215370
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1346221668688125952
Jan 4, 2021
I do not agree with Tony Blair on much but he has led the debate on vaccinations well. Put him in charge of the vaccine programme and let’s have a government of all the talents to end this unmitigated disaster.
I emphasize that I absolutely do not agree with nor do like Hitler and Pol Pot.
But hey folks we have to admit and admire it. They did management and led people.
They knew how to get things done!
What know you of Hitler. Only what the victors wrote about him.
I have Mein Kampf in my private Library. I see his speeches taken on video. Then I compare it with the media from that time and get a picture. DAS VOLK!
https://vkvideo.ru/video90277501_171784330 Not bad ;-).
The Party, 0’Brian told Winston, didnt want money or
possession, ‘The Party wanted Power, unrestrained Power.’
What a shame we have no Muslim women to give their comments. I would like to hear their opinions on this topic.
You could go full burka yourself in solidarity, and tell us your experience after. Best season in mid summer, a bit like in the Middle East.
Under it you can wear any sexy outfit, as I have seen with my own eyes once. Poor girl, totally messed up.
Here’s what we’re talking about: you are looking for a Muslim woman – an Indian man is coming (and a right on top of that, even far). That is why I say to you: deport the Indians and Pakistanis first (I believe that reasonable people do not make much difference) and things will go well.
A lot of self projection there…..
A Muslim girl was visiting my Hindu wife, both in their native home land, not in yUcK.
Ever heard of Hindu gang rape gangs over there? Didn’t think so. Not because they are human too but because they don’t get brainwashed not to think in some madrasa.
Mass migration is completely killing any regional culture, but when a state has lost its own (EU) it doesn’t matter any more. Everything starts looking the same, ice and fire. Equal rights for anyone walking into your garden, uniform, ridiculous. Globalists of the world, unite!
It doesn’t sound very good. But that’s your business.
Obviously, I am a globalist, it is evident from my other comments.
If you were reading, you could read that I agree for many thing with you about Muslims. In fact, I’m sure you’ve read it. But, because I am anti-Donald (and Musk.. and Putin), and now I am joking with the Indians…
But without the Indians? The mass migration of everyone except Indians is killing traditional cultures (of every single separated country in Europe, not the “EU”, which is not a country and is not an education with a common culture, although it shares a population exclusively in different tones of white colors.) Well, they and the Pakistanis say so, and the rest also “Everyone except us! Have you heard of Pakistani gangs?”
Well, I don’t care what you think – and you will always think in defense and praise of your own ethnicity – but I find your thoughts and feelings completely in the order of things; I think about my ethnicity and people, and I will think what I think about the Indians (I’m not impressed; but I don’t deny the ancient culture and civilization, it definitely deserves respect).
Apart from this, I am from a small (but very old) people, in a small poor country, Indians do not want to come here, so I do not have a direct problem with them, not to mention entire Indian diasporas, neighborhoods, etc. They go to rich places – Western Europe, Canada, the USA – let’s they think about it, cohabit or not. 🙂
I have since on multiple occassions in department stores groups of women in the Niqab (eyes visible only), buying up virtually the entire lingerie department. Some of them were big old units too!
Then shuffling out of the store with half a dozen carrier bags each. Who knows what they’re wearing under the black sheets.
Pervert in the women’s lingerie section is what I am thinking.
Who else thought this comment was really creepy?
If you are a dude have you never been shopping wuth your wife or girlfriend, even if you were passing through various departments in a store?
Ever been waiting to pay at the till and seen what others are buying?
If you’re a woman then I suggest you get out more and open your eyes.
Either way, your comment says more about you than me. Think before you jump to conclusions and keep your grubby little imagination to yourself.
There is no shortage of articles online with the opinions of Muslim women. There are plenty on the Hijab (the headscarve with the face visible) and some on the Burqu/Niqab. Depending on the underlying politics of the outlet the views published varied but there is a definite slant by virtue signalling Western MSM outlets to defend Muslim head and face coverings.
After the Burqa/Niqab ban in France in 2010 some women continued wearing it and were fined. One guy pays the fines on behalf of them. A couple of interesting comments from women who stopped wearing it was because it affected their health. Lack of sunlight meant lack of vitamin D especially noticeable in northern Eurpoean countries.
A due rational choice. In Sahara it maybe protects, but in northern countries a bad idea. No need for bans or laws or raised fingers. A doctor could advice it.
Its quite easy. They dont have to meet up here to tell what we easily can predict:
A Moslem woman will of course defend what she is wearing. She would never say she hate to walk around in nihab nor burqa.:
A burqa is more clean to wear, dirt and dust do not enter easily. In warm weather it creates privacy, protection from the sun, its practical and windy under walk.
Then we have Western women’s impression that their culture is the best of all worlds:
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If only Moslem women was not oppressed by their non-nice-men, they would be like us yes?
Finally, we have how moslem women see them selves: Beautiful eyes:
You could try to ban the burqa. Or, you could stop allowing the people and culture that wears burqas to come in to your country, which is the common sense thing to do, or you could just accept that the place once known as England (or Ireland, or Wales, or Scotland) will soon no longer exist, which is what the traitorous scum that own and rule that land prefer. If you are indigenously British, you should probably understand that your owners HATE you, and wish to destroy you.
They always have https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/winston-churchill-sent-gunboat-up-25919254
Works the same everywhere.
The gullible just forget about it and pack up their troubles in an old kit bag when a “national” or “global crisis is manufactured as a deflection.
They deserve everything coming their way being of equal malfeasance to their owners … need to dispose of another Jerry today.
You could ask the Indigenous Americans all about that. If you can find them on the reservations where they were relegated to, and still live on, by the English, Irish, and Scottish, Dutch, German owners who hated them.
What is “indigenous British”?
The Cro-Magnon man.
I’ll leave it to you to do your own research on that question, but I’ll give you a hint. It isn’t Pakistani hill people, Syrians, Poles, sub-Saharan Africans or Africans in general. Just for starters. Process of elimination.
It won’t make a difference once the government imposes microchip identification at birth; in much the same way our beloved canine pets are tagged.
Solution watch: Back to home birth. In native tribes strong women even did it alone in the woods.
A burka is a full body cover, not just the face. In Pakistan it was used by female and male suicide bombers. Not sure about trans…
For safety in public spaces some things can be forbidden, like walking around with a machine gun or tiger as pet.
Don’t be daft, present humanity cannot manage 100% freedom.
Yeah, but all the “terrorists” are paid for by your government. The same government putting out these bans. If I was you, I wouldn’t worry about so-called “terrorist” government employees. I’d worry about the government.
Musl*m terror was active on its own steam between the 7th and 20th century; it is only now that the CIA uses them as useful idiots. Cheap fireworks, they do it for a promise of 74 virgins as a posted check, no money needed. They are traditionally trained not to use their brain, only their strong anger and sex drive.
And then there’s Epstein and his clients sex drives.
Any Muslims among em?
Epstein’s Western educated physical girls might blow those blokes but won’t blow up that whole island. So, no Musl*m girls came there, alas.
I was referring to his clients.
All good Zionists I presume.
You’ve got The List? Publish!
What!!!
Publish and BE ‘perished’?
Who would have the guts?
Or live by sword, die by sword.
If you’ve been paying attention, many of the names are already public information: Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Bill Richardson, Ehud Barak, Alan Dershowitz, etc.
We’ve been paying attention to the book of life names, can you tell me which ones are on the list?
No, there is not muslim amog the Epsteins clients – among Muslims it is distributed in significant quantities among the ordinary population. 14 years is nothing, this is a very regular age at which a girl is perceived as an edible sexual object. Already less, because of… Guess what?.. You won’t think of it.. because of the civilization according to the Western model, where 14 is criminal.
You have not failed to notice that among the Shiite and Sunni religious authoritetes, the accepted age at which the Prophet Muhammad took Aisha as his wife is 6 years, I repeat: 6, in words: six.
I want to note that for me, whatever it is or is not the real basis of Islam, it has been and is a form of control over the populations where it is spread: Africa (mainly northern), Turkey, Levant/Middle East, Central Asia (Former Soviet – Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kirgizstan…), Pakistan, partly in India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia (probably missing something). What do they have in common? Well, Islam is the accepted form of control over these populations (already weakening, due to the “world transformation”, the technological age, offering newer and more effective forms, will probably weaken further, I don’t know). But when I talk about the Islamic world, I am talking about “populations that traditionally profess Islam/exist in a social form controlled by Islam”, and not about some “different people (from me) because of their religion” and blah-blah.
Well, what do all these peoples have in common? What is common is what is missing. How many whites profess Islam (except for those forcibly Turkished during the Ottoman yoke)? Why not? Perhaps because this form of control is not suitable for white people, or Europeans (in a lighter and darker, southern version, but again clearly different not in color, but in the level of civilization historically available for comparison)? Why not? If it’s just one religion like all the others, why there is not muslim europeans? Is it because Islam is essentially much more totalitarian written and structured, as suitable for people with a lower level of civilization (despite all the imperfections of the Europeans, who are not few, is there a place for comparison? What exactly is the same with the peoples traditionally professing Islam? They can compare with God’s people as much as they want, Are they close, but with the Europeans? By what princip?)
We have some people here, gypsies. Some of them are Muslims (infatuated with the respective Muslim stalkers of obedience), others are under the auspices of various foreign Catholic missionaries – these two groups are most actively looking for numbers (and payed for this), but my country is mainly Orthodox Christian (and atheists – we had almost 50 years of communism-socialism, so, many people believed that everything started from nothing, then amoebas…).
So, regardless of religion, they remain as they are. Traditional professions are musicians (playing at weddings, very often), placing heavy drugs on the street, prostitution and pickpocketing (a fully recognized and prestigious professional status for them, with very ancient roots… people in Western Europe should know because our gypsies often visit them, but when the police catch them, they are not gypsies, but …(the name of the respective country)… They have absolutely nothing to do with the indigenous – for thousands of years, with the same name – people, but on their passport they write the same name, of the state and the people, and not the “gypsy”. It’s a very nice story. And they are not beaten, they are not harassed, nothing; on the contrary – European foundations, NGOs, including Soros organizations, take great care of them.
Never mind… They – despite everything, despite the local population and the exhortations from the European foundations to civilize themselves – start having children at a very young age; and much…
Years ago, a very close woman of mine did not believe it. She graduated in preschool pedagogy, so she went to work as a teacher in a kindergarten, in an area with a traditionally predominantly gipsy population (just so that Soros does not hear me, because ethnicity should not be called – he is a “citizen of…”). There are many children of Gypsy origin in her group (at that time it was not yet forbidden by Eurofonds/NGOs to name them). At the end of the day, the relatives of the children come to pick them up from the kindergarten. My acquaintance, handing over the child, sees a young woman, no more than 20 years old.
“Are you the mother?”
– “No, I am the grandmother.”
And this is repeated often. I remember her look when we met a week later and she told me (to me and other mutual acquaintances and relatives), she said, “You were right”. (It’s not a joke, unfortunately.)
How often does this happen in these bad white societies with their nasty racial prejudices? Null. When it happens, it is a crime and it is called “pedofilia”, and if somewhere, in a society, a group, it is not like that, then it is not good. Get out of there.
Rescued this from trash.
I don’t know if English is your second language, but “edible sexual object” is a very gross way to put this, and the overall tone of this comment suffers from generalisations and poor taste, in this Admin’s opinion.
Example: Are you sure the 20 year grandmother wasn’t actually from Chief Akkiri’s harem in Akwa Akpa??!! If you look at the maths, both girls would be pregnant under ten!! Young pregnancies like this aren’t unheard of, but they’re extremely rare, with no more than a handful on record.
More of this stuff will stay in trash. Thanks. A2
Ditto A2.
Religion: The great barrier to Truth.
Maybe the CIA created terrorist Islam in the 7th century, according to our leftists here.
Don’t try to rewrite history to justify your zionist agenda. “Muslim terror” specifically, and Muslim fundamentalism in general had become a fringe minority by the 1970’s when it was revived by the US to use as a wedge against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Since then, the vast majority of “muslim terror” has been organized, bankrolled and supported by the US/UK/Israel and their proxies in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan etc.
People of different religions coexisted peacefully for decades in Palestine and the greater Middle East before the zionist entity started oppressing and killing the majority en masse.
Nicely put. You said it and then some.
So, you admit that they are just employees of our Western owners, whom they pretend are their enemies.
Muslims did not blow up things in Europe or the US in the 19th century. Or the first half of the twentieth century for that matter. That is, they did not do it before they were employed by the powers of Europe and the US to do so.
Government control freaks get a buzz from banning stuff.
On superficial issues like this Vox populi rules. And Pollies love to be seen as acceding to public whims.
On real issues it’s a case of “We know best, so fuck off you pathetic rabble!”
People get off on expired clocks too, they are correct twice a day no doubt, but as the last hour looms large, and the room goes silent after words, you know something bad is about to happen.
This is the so-called “right xenophobia out of nowhere” phenomenon that occurs in some places, most often in Europe (+the Albion), in the circles of the right, when their authorities – in the face of the antagonistic left – consistently pour thousands and thousands of peaceful, educated (and instructed to be so) Muslims, among which also a significant number of young men (with smartphones, and making a living in some unestablished way), and they, instead of, as is right, to thank the authorities and show hospitality to the expensive guests, exhibit xenophobia. Because they are bad people, and they have also missed the New Age/UN/WEF/Soros-style lessons that all races are equal in everything, with no significant differences in anything.
But, look, there is such a phenomenon:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/10/14/minority-groups/
“…
For example, in Hungary, where the current government has issued strict immigration controls, unfavorable views of Muslims have actually declined 14 percentage points since 2016. The same is true in Italy, where the anti-immigrant Lega party was part of a governing coalition during the period when this survey was fielded.”
I can’t believe it: strict immigration controls -> negative views of Muslims have decreased (by as much as 14 points). Is it possible….
Yes, yes – the fucking Orban, studied with a Soros scholarship, and a plandemic criminal, introduced some of the most stringent vaccine mandates (so there is nothing inconsistent in his immense love for Putin… except that, of course, everything is planned and it is quite likely that he and even they are both like flagships, the protagonists in the play put at the beginning to raise the highly revolutionary torch of the upcoming “Conservative Revolution in Europe (probably, according to the very recently tested American model)” on the stage), and more, and more, yes, yes..
And still – watch it: an operation conducted by whatever it is controlled opposition, which, however, for the final recipients from below, the indigenous population, represents a COMPLETELY REAL POLICY (which they receive), leads real results that are quite different from the results when the same population is subjected to a policy of “weak immigration control”.
Is it possible – just a timid question – but is it possible that, instead of a principled, rooted, deep xenophobia of the right, there is a link between the rigour of immigration control and the degree of unfavorable views of Muslims? (Is it possible that this “security” that you put in quotation marks is actually threatened, without quotation marks, beyond the terrifying right-wing xenophobia? A very bold question, I admit, because people who profess Islam are traditionally known to be extremely peaceful and friendly, especially towards European Christians, and, as far as I know, they are even a byword for this.)
Curious minds want to know.
If that report is taken at face value, then it doesn’t explain the 10 percent drop in the case of the UK. A country with weak immigration controls, where overystaying visas was and is commonplace and using student visas granted to educational establishments that were fronts for immigration fraud (buildings with classrooms but no students) to enter the country was a major loophole. Also, where scamming the benefits system is easier than other countries and/or working illegally is even easier.
It would be interesting to see the opinion polls from later than 2019, now over five years out of date.
Well, find the studies, show them here, discuss them with interested commentators, and if I’m interested – I’ll look at them. Have the BBC and the Guardian worked a lot for this UKs decrease of level of “unfavorable views of Muslims”? Or is the report fake? In your opinion, when Hungary tightens control and many fewer immigrants enter, the level of “unfavorable views of Muslims” has remained the same or has increased? Because the Hungarians are Islamophobes, or something else?
The report is probably fake. Discuss with stakeholders in the comment box.
I have no idea if the report is real or fake nor how questions were framed.
Britain is probably the most tolerant society in the world to other races, religions and cultures. So seeing an improvement in that 3 yr period maybe true.
I don’t know enough about the Hungarian attitudes to outsiders. I do know that eastern Europeans in general are more xenophobic – and by that I mean protective of their culture, traditions, religion and heritage much more so than the populations of many Western countries.
I also know that xenophobia, racism and other ‘-isms’ are alive and well in the attitudes of various immigrant groups in white countries and is sometimes a hangover from the prejudices that exist in their country of origin. The notion that whites are the only people who can be racist or xenophobic is a total myth. Other races and cultures have no problem, when the circumstances permit, in expressing their negative opinions about other identity groups, be it regarding race, religion, sexual orientation or nationality.
Did anything else impress you in the comment? Something to dispute? The traditional causeless xenophobia that I dispute? Is there a lot (and causeless) where you live?
Moreover, given that such greasy organizations are always inflating the numbers for “European Islamophobia,” “xenophobia,” and are pro-immigrant by definition, why would they invent such a favorable relationship between strict immigration controls and the reduction of unfavorable views of Muslims? They usually do the opposite.
But, anyway, it is full of authoritative commentators with authoritative opinions on a wide range of issues, you better discuss the issue among yourselves and I will read it. (I will concentrate more on my russian specialty.) Merci
People’s view on Moslems have nothing to do with immigrant policy. Its confusion tactic.
People’s view in the % statistics, is due to MSM presentation of them the Moslems.
Remember 9/11? Before that, Moslems enjoyed highly respect in London as reliable, peaceful, not taking interest on loans, m.m.
After that, Osama Bin Laden and his 40 Ali Baba thieves with bone knives from the Afghan mountains became synonymous with Moslem terrorists.
The whole impression of Moslem culture turned around 180 degree, and then Moslem cultures “had to pay”.
Funny.
You guys at OffG need to study Islam, the Quran and its founder Muhammad to know what sort of cult it truly is. Then perhaps you’d have a better understanding of why these things are happening.
If there are any other takes on this you feel will help redress this, by all means link to some 🙂 A2
True Islam are in many ways like true Christianity. “Use 10% of your income to help the poor and vulnerable, dont lie, be polite and treat your neighbour with respect”.
The same hate against Christians, I see the same hate against Moslem faith in Islam.
Its like non-believers cant take believers, and get extremely pessed when they see that some are people able to show restrain and discipline, patience and forgiveness.
This example here is one out of many: 21 Coptic Martyrs of Libya – Wikipedia .
If we remember that ISIS is funded, trained and supported by CIA/Mi6/Mossad to destabilise countries for regime change operations, there is only the human attitude left to analyse:
“An unjust man is detestable to the righteous, but the one whose way is upright is detestable to the wicked one.” [Proverbs 29:27] . In my opinion this do explain it a long way home.
A ship of fools or a ship of tools?
https://dissidentvoice.org/2025/06/gaza-flotilla-ship-madleen-begins-its-voyage-to-gaza/
A ship of actors.
Exactly. They are doing well, we must admit: the awake liberal conscience has received and continues to receive its stimulation (culminating in the largest and most comprehensive modern protests, as the Soros Foundation in their opendemocracy website proudly wrote), “The crimes of the Zionists, their long-standing genocidal crimes, were shown and pointed out on a scale never seen before”. Even the heart of the old respectable Jew Jacques could not stand it:
…the right has received its tight, patriotic, love-Israel-nothing-happens-in-the-Gaza, stimulation (a large part of the right-wing say that the plan of the global conspirators – who in this version are “neo-Marxists/UN/WEF/etc.” – is also and against Israel, They are on our side)…Techno-optimism, techno-optimism, “Comrades, with technology – forward!”.
And it all started – somehow symbolically – on October 7th, the birthday of the most iconic character from the previous episode of The Construction of the NWO, Mr. Putin.
It turns out well. The timetable for the Five-Year Plan covid2020-2025 from the implementation of the New (Fourth) Mechanization Industrialization was successfully eventful.
One more “global influencer” or less. I cant see any difference. Global bs.
A nondescript commentator per kilogram.
More political circus.
3 life preservers or you aint gonna make it across the lake of fire.
Little Elon wanted to BBB** but came-a-gutsa against BBB***
** BBB > Build Back Better
*** BBB > Big Beautiful Bill…
*BBB> Blood Brain Barrier.
OK, claim Trump’s name is on The List
but dont claim Sleepy Joe’s name is on it too !
I can believe only so much !!
Your name is on it too, les..Come clean and redeem yourself.
Sleepy Joe is so kind to children. In all the photos on Mainstream he give icecream.
i thought the whole masking up during the covid lie was about teaching facial recog cameras and AI how to ID people who cover their face??? This ban is nothing more than to have control over people… i hope anyone wearing a Burqa says FU!!! Anyway, love your writings!
The digital I.D scam won’t work if your face is covered.
I don’t know, but I think they can recognize you by your gait now. And so, I recommend we all get limping.
I have been practicing Monty Python’s silly walks. They’ll never be able to I.D me. 😃
Maybe it was not only because of this, but surely it was also because of this. There were many articles on the subject, for example
https://ntechlab.com/findface-multi/
FindFace Multi detects face mask presence and proper wearing. Additionally, it features high detection accuracy for faces in masks.
Look how 100% horny all these people are who are involved in making the whole globe to a 24/7 spy society where every mm2 of privacy are completely erased.
They love it and are getting orgasm when they do it. $$.
Do you mean me by “these people”?!
No, I meant the people you refer to in your link; the Ntechlab management and experts, the Governments who buy their shit, the 400+ large clients.
They dont even know why the love it. Some obscure “security reasons” in their backheads.
But there is only more insecurity in it. Anyone can hack these systems and cheat it and use it with false targetting and accusations.
Thats why I find not only this feature but also the people involved extremely disgusting.
Stupid people jeopardizing everybody in their surrounding with their dumbness. Thanks for the info.
‘First They came for The Burqa
Next They came for Lipstick**
** on Clowns excluded…
Agree. Courtesy to the 100% surveillance State 24/7 not only in public space, but people’s own homes too (coming), is the solely reason.
But this is only one more out of many ridiculous laws which are impossible to uphold. When the weather is below -0C, Helm when you drive motorbike, skiing, sun bathing, m.m.
Politicians are afraid of their own shadow.
It is not the simple act of wearing a Burqa that is the issue, it is when you wear it, where you wear it, in whose presence you wear it and what you intend doing with those people when you wear it.
If you wish to wear a Burqa as a fully grown woman, freely consenting so to do to signal sexual modesty to men of your community, that’s absolutely fine. That is an adult-to-adult communication that not everyone will agree with but all should be prepared to respect.
If you wish to wear a Burqa to avoid identification, that is somewhat different. It suggests a need to behave in an underhand manner, which may be for good reasons or dangerous ones. It is likely to arouse suspicions amongst those who do not understand your motives, maybe for good reason, perhaps for no good reason.
However, if you wish to engage in a professional place of work wearing a burqa, that is something rather different. If your job is carried out alone without interaction with others, that is not a problem. It becomes a problem as soon as someone wishes to transact with you in a way involving negotiation. It is well known that 90%+ of communication is non-verbal and the act of making your face unavailable for analysis of non-verbal communication makes the negotiation extremely non-equal. The Burqa wearer can observe everything, the non-Burqa wearer can observe nothing. It represents an extremely disrespectful way to engage, a frankly racist approach to humanity. It should not be acceptable outside of Muslim communities.
As for wearing a Burqa as a primary school child, that is simply ridiculous. There is zero need to express modesty as a pre-adolescent, what should be being expressed at that age is enthusiasm, joy, laughter, sadness, sorrow, , excitement etc etc. All those emotions can besot naturally expressed in the presence of similarly aged children without wearing a Burqa.
Trying to impose Muslim mores on non-Muslim host countries is quite frankly rude, disrespectful and a sign of a wish NOT to integrate. Not wishing to integrate should be a terminal red flag for immigrants, with the consequence being a removal of right to remain and a fairly quick deadline to have returned to wherever you have come from.
The three Abrahamic religions all have subsections of extreme intolerance, it is not just the Muslims. Jews and Christians alike have their mad as a hatter extremist totalitarians too….
So do football crowds for that matter. It was very noticeable in Bilbao around the Europa League final how many Bilbao folk went about wearing their Athetic Club shirts – to me it was a subconscious way of telling the English fans they did not know well that ‘We have no stake in any fights that may break out this week. We don’t want any of you fighting here, but if you must fight, keep it strictly between you English!’
Regardless, government has no right to tell people what to wear.. that is the issue, not the Burqa. Government is the problem.
You are correct. Governement don’t have the right to tell people what to wear, or anything else for that matter. But they’ll send the thugs out to make sure you comply. Minions are the problem.
QUESTION: Does religion – as a cultural institution employing every bit as much intergenerational indoctrination as government institutions – have a right to tell people what to wear?
I agree. But the innate need to express enthusiasm, joy or sadness, etc., doesn’t stop at puberty which is why I think that the Muslim garb designed for women only to signal modesty, not just the burqa, is extremely misogynistic and definitely about control of women’s expression and sexuality. As such I believe it has no place in our modern society having arisen out of a Christian culture precisely because it is rude. I modified my clothing when visiting Egypt, for example, out of respect for the Muslim culture while holidaying there (though no face covering, especially since I was picked up at the airport by a modern Muslim woman wearing modest European clothes and driving her own car.) The burqa is not a universal religious garb. It is a political statement of ownership of the woman and extreme control.
However, I also agree with Kit that, coming from the government, wanting to ban face coverings is a red flag, and also about control. Surveillance cameras are usually mounted high up. So, once the ban is in place will they ban golf caps with a visor or large, dark sunglasses, too, because wearing a visor would elude the capture by surveillance cameras?
My personal belief is that human beings need to give up on trying to control other human beings. Instead, how about putting out there your own very best example of moderation and, importantly, consideration for other people’s rights.
Women, and some men, wearing make up, is also a form of control and artifice. Cosmetic surgery is another.
Who is the real being under those masks?
“There’s a sucker born every minute”
Whether PT Barnum said it or not doesn’t matter. Fact is, it’s spot on.
We are trained, taught, told and tested from an early age to identify with our race, religion, class and even our beloved sports teams and national pride.
It takes a lot of gumption/courage to break free from those ties.
Truth is found through diminishing ignorance. Then, and only then, one is on the path to freedom.
You clearly have been nowhere near any Aust, school in the last 30 years if you think that pupils are taught to identify with their (white) race and (Christian) religion.
Because the Holy Trinity has been replaced wih a new curricular triad: Holocaustianity-Negrophilia – Gynophilia, provided that the Gyn identifies as having testicles. In at least one city. pupils get taken to the local “Holocaust Museum”.
National pride? Where? Read the ABC News website for a week and educate yourself on that topic.
Up until the age of seven or eight most kids believe what their parents and teachers tell them.
Since Social Media in the form of celebrities and influencers was vomited up, kids and teenagers have become putty in their hungry hands.
Free range awareness is now rarer than an honest politician.
The poet Philip Larkin said it best:
‘They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.’
“Larkin’s early childhood was in some respects unusual: he was educated at home until the age of eight by his mother and sister, neither friends nor relatives ever visited the family home, and he developed a stammer.[25]”
So you are trying to gemeralise Larkin’s fate to that of humanity in general?
Only if there is a side gig, as a genie that pops out of the bottle.
From what I’ve observed over six decades Larkin’s poem is pretty accurate.
Some Folks break the mould, most don’t.
60 years? Your 1970s liberation-from-parents theology is outdated. .
Schwab and Harari are happy to encourage the hyperliberal “freedom” you are peddling bar any ties or duties or commitments except to AI-driven pornocracy.
I could put any statement from Brave New World made against John the Savage in your mouth and I surmise it would fit.
Yep.
Some truism in that poem, but then you grow up and can choose to follow suit or walk another path.
As Philip did.
As Philip? Give mom and dad the finger when you are 20 and they have fed you up.
Live fat on social welfare as student the next 20 years until you are kicked out.
Seek pension as victim when you are 40 for the next 20 years f.ck the system.
Fok the world when you are 60, sell pot, lsd, anti-conception to the young, and tell them how fok happy you are for not having child.
3 can keep a secret, but only if two are dead.
Somehow, in burka-wearing countries, the people who live there have figured out how to transact business with people wearing burkas.
I love the hopefully involuntary libtardism of “people” rather than “women”.
Btw, burka wearers tend not to transact ie do things in public at all, that is for men.
First of all, I just said people because I did, not for any reason that fulfills your dumbass agenda. Secondly, you are living in the past. Go to Iraq or Iran, Jordan, Tunisia, Lebanon, etc., and you will see womens peebles transacting business like gangbusters.
Befpre you reply to me learn the difference between the burqa of Afghanistan and the niqab and hijab of Arabs. If you think Afghan women have the freedom of women in the other countries, dumbass yourself.
Typical diverting to some meaningless off-topic topic– because you don’t know anything about anything. So you looked something up on WIkipedia and now you are the expert. Interesting.
RE: It becomes a problem as soon as someone wishes to transact with you in a way involving negotiation. It is well known that 90%+ of communication is non-verbal and the act of making your face unavailable for analysis of non-verbal communication makes the negotiation extremely non-equal.
There are far more people wearing Covid masks than wearing burqas. This is not just an oversight, it’s hypocrisy.
It is obvious that the American Rhys does not watch football (which is soccer – the only real football). I very much call on the management and moderators, as true Englishmen, since they do not protect us (here I mean us, in a broader sense, all Europeans) from the Islamic invasion, but preach racial peace and religious love, at least to protect the honor of the birthplace of football.
This was not the final, but a semifinal rematch for the Europa League and it is not Athetic but Athletic, do you understand, you American? This is crucial, significant! (I’m kidding)
Otherwise, I liked the comment, especially the climax:
Agree. I am also SOO tired of those Moslems who refuse to integrate in our culture and in our community:
Me.
News flash: (a) Every dogma tries to gain the greatest control over its supporters (b) During covid, the subjet of burka went into hibernation as the facial recognition software was not ready.
Its probably because some muslim’s invented a bullet and bomb-proof burqa.
This is way too simplistic. We have seen an explosion of women wearing head coverings (at increasingly young ages) since Khomeini took power in Iran in the 1980’s. Head coverings are a way for political Islam to mark its territory and symbolize a resistance to integrate into Western society which Islam considers decadent. Why don’t Muslim women question the practice of head coverings? Why do they play in the hands of sexist and oppressive islamist propaganda that uses women for political gain?
If Western propaganda is correct, most of the Iranian women are under grave threat to comply.
Fear and conformity. Simple as.
Because Western women are strong and free women, but Moslem women are not more than weak sex slaves to men. Here a free western woman in power:
What’s wrong with no face covering?
Don’t get it, nothing to hide nothing to lose!
What’s wrong with a full cavity search?
Nothing to hide nothing to lose.
Because we all have something to hide. Also forgotten today why we have privacy.
Privacy is not a right, its a plight;
Skin worms, cellulitis, acne, hook noses, scars, dark yellow teeth, bad mouth and breath, hide your dark spot in your behind in your home. A civilised society dont wanna see it.
The Burqa ban is problematic for all the British celebrities who had recent cosmetic procedures and are going to the surgeon for a follow-up visit.😁
OT:
With this kill ratio, the arms dealers must be creaming themselves.
#clownworld
The 6 and the 80 were all Russians living in Ukraine 😅 . Putin apologized yesterday on TV.
Oops 👼
But they died for their country! Thinking all the time until the hour of his death about the Revenge that Russia will impose on Ukraine for the never-before-seen Ukrainian drone attacks and destruction of military infrastructure a little earlier.
!!! (oops)
Hmmmm. Racist morons. The rights of women are inviolable and apply to all except Muslim women.
I remember an article in the Guardian, back in the day, which said that the hijab was “stylish”:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2013/mar/06/lifting-veil-londons-stylish-hijab
Is it the case that scrubbing floors all day can be promoted as a good workout and a wonderful way to tone your body?
Are you racists proud of yourselves?
Muslims are a different race, are they?
Race to the bottom, more like
The most radical of them are paid and trained by UK/US. That is precisely how a ‘different’ race they are. Own-goal.
Here is one of them. A suppressed woman acc to Western media because she has a nice smile:
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Free independent women dont smile!
The “STATE” has created a monster, such that now to control the monster it takes complete control of the population to prevent said monster from destroying the State.
Where and when have I heard of this before, oh yeah, slave emancipation or destruction of plantation.
It’s funny. They would never ban them in the US. Nobody even notices them anymore in the US.
“The state doesn’t care about race or religion, the state only cares about control, and creating a lovely egalitarian future where everyone, regardless of colour or creed, is oppressed perfectly equally.”
I sometimes think you’re the reincarnation of Orwell himself Kit. Bravo!
Trump is already married to a young lovely model. It just doesnt sell.
You omitted the word ‘trophy’.
What surely not reform the Nigel who told everyone to wear masks and stay safe and get tested and jabbed.
That open minded party who repeat the same hypnotic trance of 5 minutes ago.
Now cares about burka the same mindcontrol repeat of trump le pen 1.1 of 2016
sloganeering
2016 — Germany is the latest country to consider banning full-face veils, while towns in France have banned its swimsuit equivelent the burkini.
Bulgaria. In 2016, a ban on the wearing of face-covering clothing in public was adopted by the Bulgarian parliament. The Bulgarian parliament enacted the ban on the basis of security concerns, however the ban stimulated conflict as 10 percent of the country’s population identifies as Muslim.
May 31, 2018 — In the Lombardy region of Italy, a burka ban was agreed in December 2015 and came into effect in January 2016
Populus mindcontrol rhetoric
Countries where hijab is bannedFrom sources across the webFrance
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Netherlands
Republic of the Congo
Switzerland
Chad
Denmark
Sri Lanka
China
Germany
Tajikistan
Cameroon
Italy
Niger
Gabon
Kazakhstan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Canada
India
Iran
Morocco
Spain
it weak minded mental midgets for the ones who watch the electoral news and get all excited and believe it then in reality go out and see people wearing masks.
is really about online.
The UK already has a burqa-ban party – it’s called UKIP. It killed UKIP and it will kill Reform. Hopefully, most of the Reform councillors will just switch to a truly reformist party!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39693154
UKIP: Full face veils are ‘barrier to integration’
Published: 24 April 2017
UKIP’s proposed ban on full veils worn by some Muslim women has “great public support”, the party’s deputy leader has claimed.
UKIP was probably controlled opposition all the time, yelling freedom from the roof tops.
They undid Nigel’s nuts so he complied with their wishes of stoking up fear among the Proletariat.
NYC started mask bans in 1845 and has persisted periodically ever since…
“In New York, anti-mask laws were passed as a direct response to rent protests in 1845 and have been used since as a way to target social movements. New York’s mask ban has been selectively enforced, criminalizing anti-war protestors, LGBTQ people riding the subway, people wearing bandanas on May Day, and people wearing Guy Fawkes masks during Occupy Wall Street in 2011. ”
https://action.aclu.org/send-message/say-no-mask-bans-new-york
Absolutely. Here the other way around from year 2020-2022 https://covidadvocacyny.org/nycmaskguide .
After checking I see NYC had tough times during the Covid seasons.
Forced vaccination or 20cm PCR test stick once a week to all public employees. https://abc7ny.com/nyc-face-mask-guidance-restaurants-vaccine-mandate-danny-meyer-delta-variant/10924328/
NYC is famous for being a Temple city for Liberals and Doos. Whatever that mean.
I couldnt have made it. They had fired me after 2 weeks,
Well, I suppose in many instances it isn’t burqa wearer’s choice to wear it in the first place – they are almost by definition in a marriage of orthodox Islam where the man calls the shots. There are probably some women who like wearing it, though, so the best thing from a civil liberties point of view would be to enshrine the right NOT to wear one in law. As for the politics, the issue is another distraction and division tactic, like the small boats, focusing on an issue that affects almost no one, so that far-right politicians (which is pretty much everyone in the UK Parliament) can grandstand and pretend to be liberal. Obviously, the ‘covid’ dictatorship was another manifestation of that fake-compassion. We know the Labour Party are far-right, by the way, because so much money and gerrymandering are going to Reform to block other parties and keep Labour in power.
We are not going back to women’s free choice. We are going forward. Toward the ‘modern’ future.
I propose a business idea : someone should make latex masks (the sort of those used by Ethan Hunt) with random politicians faces. If all of us wore them in public it would be fun for the AI powered face recognition. It would not be “face covering”, just another face 😁 The other idea (Bond, James Bond or actually Q) would be special licence plates which you could change with a touch of a button (some LCD maybe, popping up in front of the real plate or a film rolling in front of the plate, one part transparent for the real number then something else as it rolls). That would be nice for the ULEZ, although illegal (I question the reasons behind the existence of such zones). I would choose some foreign numbers in remote countries, where the fines will never reach.
Not bad. I like the idea. The problem only arrives if one of us 5000 Ronald Reagan masks pull out a gun. But most of us will survive……..we believe.
“It’s not up to me to tell a muslim women how to dress – that’s her husband’s job”
– Ricky Gervais
There is, of course, a hand-wringing, mind spinning dilemma here.
The libertarian will say that everyone must have the right to wear what they want but women musn’t be forced.
The left and right will say the woman should be free from coercion to cover but from defferent viewpoints.
In the confusion, the authoritarian seizes his chance !
You’ve got to admit it’s a brilliant tactic.
I wish they wouldn’t wear it only cause a lot of um are so pretty that to cover up the beauty only diminishes the view.
Thats precisely why they wear it. All the eyes from horny men makes it necessary.
Meaning Sarah Pochin MP now being the cause of increasing the rape statistics!
Or cover up any bodily ugliness after age 25…..
Oh, sorry to hear about your aging problem there cowboy, I suggest you don’t do it whatever was that did it
It reminds me about a joke:
It was 17 year old Bob who got his first purse and wanted to try the naughty thing.
Bob went to hooker street and asked for a price. 100$ too expensive.
50-40-30 no. Still too much.
He was advised to Rita in the last building, 1st floor at the end of the street.
Bob agreed a price with Rita of 10 bucks….’without’.
Rita started to take out her teeth and laid them in a glass of water. Then she took off her wig. She then started to screw her left leg off.
Now Bob have had enough. He ran out of the door and down on the street.
When he passed the window on 1’st floor on his way, Rita opened the window and yelled so the whole street could hear it:
“HEY BOB WILL YOU NOT HAVE THE PUSSY YOU PAID FOR??”.
YES RITA, PLEASE JUST THROW IT DOWN HERE.
LOL…………….ha ha ha. That joke was so funny man ha ha ha.
RE: Nobody should be allowed to conceal their identity?
How fucking ironic: if you go into any liberal city you will see (especially on public transit) maybe 15% of people still with their Covid PPE masks on. That’s ok, but burqas not?
They want to know who you are so they can decide if they want to come after you or not, aren’t they a wonderful gvt
As much as I think it’s a stupid ass human practice that points to a lack of intellectual capacity, I agree, the government has no right to tell us what to wear or what not to wear. If it did, I would vote for outlawing suits and ties. And take those white robes worn by the middle eastern oil robbers (some call them “royalty”) with them. Now let me put this mask on so I can go to work in a government building.
I would tell them not to wear a condom, but only if you want a cancer
In Britain how effective would a Burqa ban be?
Ineffective, since it will be ignored and the police will not enforce it for fear of being deemed racist or Islamophobic. However, as a full face covering ban it will give the police encouragement to harass those with balaclavas, masks and helmets on, particularly at protests and demonstrations.
For many years, if someone enters a bank in the UK or US wearing a motorcycle crash helmet they will be asked to remove it, even with the visor open. Also baseball caps and sunglasses are banned in most US banks. Many stores have the same policy in both countries regarding helmets too. Yet, a Burqa is fine to wear in both countries, yet it is far more disguising. If today it was the same as 1970s/80s when bank blags and payroll snatches were commonplace wearing a Burqa would be the ideal disguise since it would not raise suspicions.
Anyone should be allowed to wear what they like but in Britain if this was to become law it will undoubtedly be applied in a two-tier manner. There will not be thousands of Muslim woman appearing in the Magistrates Cour for refusing to remove the face coverings.
You’ve got to be kidding. All we heard for two years was “over your nose! over your nose!”
Now it’s a security risk?
Make up your minds, tyrants!!
The confusion technique is a well-known part of psychological warfare.
This is not to say they’re perfect and don’t make mistakes – but in this case they know what they’re doing and are having a good laugh as the compliant follow exactly the opposite of what they were told to do five years ago. It’s probably used as a model example of the power of the accompanying narrative over the action itself.
I hope they are prepared for the 3am wake up call, sunrise at 6
They say Israel was created to fund the U.S. military, now how is one to go anti violence and not be at the same time a security threat to Israel.
I just wish they didn’t have to put a gun to our heads to make it work for them.
Suppose a ban on face-covering in the UK becomes law. Would it really be used to ‘oppress everyone equally’? I think not. Long before the nightmare rule of two-tier Keir, police forces were already bowing low to violent BLM protestors and Islamic radicals, ignoring violent Anti-Fas in masks, and helping radical greens disrupt the daily lives of millions. But unmasked white patriots, anti-vaxxers and free speechers received very different, often brutal treatment followed by much worse legal consequences. So no, Kit; not everyone will be oppressed equally; globalist-Zionist puppet governments are clearly targeting native, ‘conservative’ protestors first, becase ghey constitute the greatest resistance to NWO dicratorship. As ever, you ignore the distinctly leftist racist, authoritarian identity and agenda of ‘the State’, not to mention the tribal identity of its non-British controllers.
Never heard any liberals complain about women non rights / clothing in Musl*m countries.
Used to be called hypocrisy, must be labeled r*cism today. Irrational.
I do distinctly remember people arguing for the invasion of Afghanistan 25 years ago on the grounds of ‘women’s lib’, so there’s that. (Yes, I’m sure this really more of a neocon argument than a liberal one, but the liberals were definitely the ones that the neos were targeting in this case.)
They all pick their nose in public over there, so be careful about your labels.