The Lizardmen’s Evil Intentions
Todd Hayen
Lizardmen. Yeah, right. David Icke’s invention. Is it based on truth? Who knows. It’s about as good as any other theory. But it is rather common to come up with something quite outlandish if you can find another way to reconcile certain extremely vile human behaviour.
If you run across a Son of Sam type character—a serial killer named David Berkowitz who murdered six people in New York City during the 1970s—or even a Hitler—and we all know what he did—it is much easier to write them off as some inhuman entity than just a whacked-out human being.
Otherwise, we would have to admit we are all capable of such atrocities. Hitler and the Son of Sam were both possessed by evil spirits, or the Devil himself. How could they have done what they did if not?
So, why not say all these evil oligarchs are lizards? Easier to define them as a race of shape-shifting, extraterrestrial, reptilian humanoids than as actual humans. Icke’s lizards are often called “Draconians” or “Anunnaki,” originating from the Draco constellation, and they all secretly control Earth. These beings allegedly manipulate human societies by posing as influential figures in politics, royalty, finance, and media.
According to Icke, they maintain their human appearance through holographic distortion or genetic hybridization but can revert to their reptilian form as they wish. He claims they’ve ruled humanity for millennia, creating and controlling major institutions via a network of secret societies, notably the Illuminati, to maintain global dominance.
Sure, why not? Pretty out there, for sure. I would say Icke is a bona fide fruitcake if I didn’t know better. The guy would be very difficult to conventionally diagnose as psychotic or schizophrenic or something worse. He just doesn’t fit the diagnosis for a variety of reasons. So then, what’s up? Is he right? Well, at this point in this insane nightmare we are all experiencing, it would not take much to convince me these people in question are indeed lizards. Or maybe Satan’s minions, or something worse. It becomes more and more difficult to see them as whacked-out humans. Although that is still possible, but man, there would have to be an awful lot of them that were whacked. And that seems even more implausible to me at times than shape-shifting lizards from the Draco constellation.
Think of all the crazy stuff we’ve seen—a phantom virus allegedly escaping a lab in China doing “gain of function” research, backed and financed by the US government, against federal laws, allegedly known by the director of the NIAID, Anthony Fauci. Imagine, if you will, the government of the US allegedly involved in a conscious and deliberate plan to vaccinate the entirety of the world (over 8 billion human beings) with a genetic-altering drug that was barely tested (who cares if it was tested for safety, that was the last thing they wanted, a safe vaccine). So, was genocide the intention? Seems so. Then imagine, if you will, the deliberate and conscious effort to jab children with this evil concoction, and to continue this campaign (children and adults) long after it was clearly determined this vaccine was killing people. It certainly wasn’t helping people get over a virus that was long gone and not a threat to anyone.
Now, let’s talk about other examples of what some call the globalists’ evil actions to control the masses. The World Economic Forum (WEF), led by Klaus Schwab, is often at the center of these accusations. Their “Great Reset” initiative, launched in 2020, supposedly aims to reshape global economies post-COVID, but critics like those on alternative media claim it’s a front for consolidating power.
They point to Schwab’s talk of “stakeholder capitalism” and partnerships with corporations as a way to sideline democratic governments, giving unelected elites—think big banks and tech giants—more control over global policies. Some even tie this to the WEF’s Young Global Leaders program, which has trained folks like Canada’s Justin Trudeau and France’s Emmanuel Macron, who are accused of pushing policies that prioritize globalist agendas over national interests, like heavy-handed COVID lockdowns or carbon taxes that hit the working class hardest.
Then there’s the World Health Organization (WHO), which some say is in the pocket of private interests like Big Pharma and Bill Gates. Critics argue the WHO’s push for a global pandemic treaty and amendments to the International Health Regulations could centralize health policy, potentially forcing countries to adopt mandatory vaccinations or lockdowns. They point out that 85% of WHO’s funding comes from private sources, not governments, suggesting it’s more about profit than public health. For instance, the rush to roll out mRNA vaccines globally, even for kids, despite spotty safety data, is seen by some as a power grab to normalize medical mandates.
Leaders like the past Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, and the President of France, Emmanuel Macron, often catch flak for allegedly being WEF puppets, but others, like New Zealand’s Jacinda Ardern, also get called out for enforcing strict COVID policies—like near-total lockdowns and vaccine passports—that seemed more about control than science, especially when the virus’s threat waned. These policies, critics say, crushed small businesses and personal freedoms while funneling wealth to corporate giants. And don’t forget the likes of China’s Xi Jinping, whose social credit system is seen by some as the ultimate globalist wet dream: total surveillance and control over every aspect of life, disguised as public safety.
Now, let’s get to Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies, because this is where it gets really dark.
Investigative journalist Whitney Webb, in her book One Nation Under Blackmail, argues Epstein wasn’t just a creepy billionaire but a key player in a state-sponsored blackmail operation tied to US and Israeli intelligence. She claims his network, involving high-profile figures like Bill Gates, Prince Andrew, and Les Wexner, was used to trap powerful people in compromising situations, ensuring their loyalty to elite agendas.
Webb ties this to the WEF’s Young Global Leaders program, noting how Epstein’s connections overlapped with globalist circles, suggesting a web of influence where sex, money, and power keep the masses under control. Her perspective is that these aren’t isolated crimes but part of a broader system to manipulate global governance, with Epstein as a cog in the machine.
And then there’s the really wild stuff some folks believe about the elite—like secret Satanic rituals and worse. Certain conspiracy circles, especially online, claim world leaders and powerful figures are part of occult groups that worship dark forces, holding bizarre ceremonies to maintain their grip on power. They talk about a supposed drug called adrenochrome, which they allege is harvested from children in horrific ways to keep elites young and energized. Icke’s aforementioned lizardmen (and women) are also allegedly involved in these rituals. These same groups sometimes point to underground networks they believe traffic kids for the rich and powerful, tying it all to Satanism (or Lizardism).
Look, this is pure conspiracy territory—stuff you’d see on fringe forums, not in any verified reports—but it’s out there, and people eat it up because it’s easier to imagine pure evil-possessed individuals, or lizards, than corrupt humans pulling the strings.
It’s a lot to swallow, I know. Whether it’s the WEF, WHO, or Epstein’s elite pals, the throughline for critics is control—over your health, your wallet, your freedom. Are they all lizards? Probably not (well, maybe). But when you see this kind of power consolidation, it’s no wonder people start reaching for wild theories to make sense of it.
Todd Hayen PhD is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here
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Thank you for your examination of DI’s Shape-Shifting Reptilians theory. You have explained it clearly with small amount of sarc. Your observation that if it is true we cd avoid blaming humanity somewhat is plausible. But maybe there be SSR and there be psycho fkd up humans. Neither is good for humanity.
I commend anyone who gets through at least 3 of DIs books. (Todd you did FIVE!)They challenge so many beliefs, proposing so many (conspiracy) theories my head spins and I usually need to switch to another book(s) for awhile then go back to DI.
Years ago I was able to attend one of DIs all day marathon presentations. WOW, it was awesome. If you can find one of his live presentations online (OR check Ickonic) I highly recmd it.
Here’s suggestions for short good overview.
Reptilians?
2 part interview where DI takes it down to the “basics” (From VICE)
Look it up on You tube at David Icke: Conspiracy of the Lizard Illuminati In 2 parts; from 2012
The Annunaki were not reptilians. That issue is separate from the Shape-Shifting Reptilians. If I am wrong abt that please correct.
Some items from my “notes”:
There’s a hierarchy- “so people like the rothschilds and rockefellers would be high level dark luciferians whilst the likes of matt hancock and rishi sunak would be their satanist minions pushing eugenics and corruption etc”
slighty edited: November 2, 2022 by Macnamara at DIForum
…” literally or metaphorically, we are all under attack from a hostile, demonic, alien intelligence. These wealthy Luciferian aristocrats are either non-human or sub-human.
consider the possibility that all of the Luciferian secret societies around the world are under the psychic mind control of the High-Adept Satanists who themselves are puppets of the Gray Aliens and Reptilian Aliens. “ Kerth Barker, Satanism
Main DI message is Question Everything. That INCLUDES what’s in his books.
“To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.”
― Howard Zinn
Quote from Todd: “Information is information. Whether it is looney or not (or hateful or not) is up to us individually to determine. We are supposed to have the faculty to do such a discernment, and not require mommy or daddy to come to our rescue and tell the big bad bully to stop hurting our feelings.” (or quit freaking us out with reptilians) OFF G oct 2024
My desire to be well informed is currently at odds with my desire to remain sane.
There is another view of Ikes Lizard people, which i read on a substack by someone who had seen him and claims he told Her that the Lizard schtick was so Intel agencies would think he was crazy , and leave him alone!.. cant remember where i read that….
The other aspect of this that makes people wonder whether we’re dealing with alien life forms, or perhaps extra-dimensional entities, is the fact that these Illuminati families seem capable of executing a long, drawn out, intricate plan spanning the entire globe generation after generation, century after century. Not only have they been stunningly successful to date, but it must be noted that almost never does any family member of theirs break ranks. How is that possible?
Apart from extra-dimensional and extra-terrestrial explanations, there is also the possibility that they practice the same, brutal sorts of mind-control on their own offspring that they do on us. In their families, the child abuse would not be something they do for ‘pleasure’, nor — pace all the Christian conspiracy theorists out there — would it be primarily ritual in purpose; no, according to this theory, they freely engage in the breaking and remolding of their own children psychologically, beating all compassion and empathy out of them at a very young age, then replacing their natural, human personalities with something darker.
Admittedly, it does make a certain sense, and it doesn’t require any belief in aliens of demons (though I certainly don’t rule those out either). According to this model, something like the CIA’s MK-Ultra program would very much be at the center of their technique, the source of all their power.
At any rate, it’s a hypothesis.
“almost never does any family member of theirs break ranks.”
They seem to live (too) long. Is that adrenochrome or the “sacrifices”?
But sometimes they end up dead under mysterious circumstances.
Royal families have always had their resident astrologer, wizard, Svengali, High Priest, who would be doing the sort of indoctrination you hypoth.Totally Left Hand Path.
Interesting ideas about extra-dimensional and extra-terrestrial entities at:
https://veilofreality.com/2025/06/13/mass-psychosis-egregores-and-the-invisible-war-for-human-conscious
By Bernhard Guenther, June 12, 2025
As someone whose only child was murdered by predators involved in human sex trafficking (we have rock solid eye witness testimonies and proof) I disagree strongly with your premise. There is profound evil out there of all kinds right now. It’s a huge problem that people want to turn their backs and be comfortable instead of bringing light and awareness to the public so that we might at the very least start to battle this huge problem that has now invaded every city and small town everywhere. We are not deluding ourselves in thinking that their might be one decent person in the judicial system who might make sure our daughters murder case is not thrown out. The evil entities acting at the more local levels are working for and protected by the higher ups. This evil is real, pervasive and growing. Let’s keep an open mind so that light may be shown on this reality and others do not have to go through the hell we are going through. She left behind her very beloved child.
I am so sorry to hear of the horror you are, and have been, going through.
I am curious to know what “premise” you believe I presented that you “strongly disagree with.” ??
Thank you for your views.
There are alot of things your write in the article above (relating to “Covid” (and other things)), that also needs commenting, but for the sake of simplicity, I will only address the main topic:
Some of David Ickes information on a non-human presence on Earth, is collected from interviews of survivors of satanic, ritual abuse. To dismiss Icke’s information, therefore, is to also dismiss these people.
One could argue that they are all wrong, and that what they recall and testify to have witnessed, is a figment of their own imagination; but what if they are right? Who are we to say they are not?
If Icke and all those witnesses (including ex military personnel) are right about there being a non human control network, and if all ancient sculptures and depictions of an alien life form are not mere “props” put out there to scare the “commoners” into obeying an “elite” few of wealthy humans, – then at the very least we would do well to keep our options open, regarding what may or may not be the truth.
According to MKUltra survivor Cathy O’Brien, when she saw Bush (senior) in a reptilian form, she claims that this was a holographic projection, probably used in order to scare, rather than it being Bush having the capability to appear in a non human form.
Nevertheless, she says that she cannot claim that such projections are behind every case of what survivors can have witnessed.
A general dismissal of information is one thing, but for the sake of sharing important “intel”, it is essential to also present evidence to the contrary, if one disagrees.
This way we can together dissect all information available to us, and leave no stone unturned, which would be the only way to handle any information presented to us.
There is absolutely no evidence of aliens having ever visited our planet.
People making claims of seeing things is not evidence.
Rich gangs of child rapists on drugs dressing up in ridiculous costumes and playing children’s number games whilst believing really dumb things is a more likely explanation for all the fucked up things going on.
These sorts of people, upon seeing one of their air strikes blow up a hospital full of children bar-up, rush into their toilet to masturbate vigorously whilst shooting up a cocktail of crack and adrenochrome.
There are no aliens.
“Truth comes first, evidence comes later.” H/F-25.
Kinda like ppl who say that alien abduction is all myth that ppl have read the stories and seen the movies and get caught up in it.
An interesting, and gentle dismissal of Icke’s position based upon simple logic. Icke develops a long but coherent argument in over a dozen very long books. The last three are a synthesis. It is far too simplistic to present a viewpoint that appears totally outrageous as the work of a “fruitcake” without putting it in the context of a coherent, developed argument with solid scientific explanations and evidence from history and politics. Can I suggest you read him with some care, and with an open mind.
I don’t think I’d say that Icke’s output was representative of a simple consistent theory. I’ve read perhaps five of his books and he develops his ideas but they tend to mutate. By the time we get to “The Perception Deception”, he has pretty much plunged fully into The Matrix and reckons the whole of our “reality” is a generated image. Though he does this by the notion that matter is ultimately a waveform. By that point he renames the Lizard entities “The Archons” (They used to be The Babylonian Brotherhood”)
I don’t know the derivation of “Archon” but I recall they were the nasties in one of the early Star Trek episodes.
Such parallels with movies and TV programmes wouldn’t bother Icke since, if some sneered that he pinched his ideas from these products, he’d just say it was a case of the media precluding serious acceptance of these ideas.
I admit I haven’t read his latest stuff but I’m intrigued about it being a “synthesis”.
Oh I see that “Archon” is a term that derives from Gnosticism.
From your friendly Google AI generator.
In Gnosticism it is also considered that the archons prevent souls leaving the material plane. In order to avoid reincarnation countless times a soul/spirit must attain Gnosis to escape the trap.
Interestingly, the planets – whatever they are, physical or holographic – have a huge influence over collective and individual human behaviour. Real astrology – not the horoscopes in newspapers that are entertainment – is very useful in understanding and predicting human sentiment and emotional states and therefore the likely outcomes of human decisions and actions.
My article states I would think he was a “fruitcake” if I did not know him better, I know him fairly well, and do not think he is a fruitcake. I HAVE read him, and with CARE, and with an OPEN MIND
With Icke I believe he gives a good dose of truth but is controlled opposition – a gatekeeper. As regards the lizard issue he is mainly promoting the extra-terrestrial angle of these beings. He is not promoting the more likely possibilty that they are inter-dimensional beings nor that they could even have come from the Earth originally, a part that we are unaware of. Perhaps, even underground.
The phrase ‘As above, so below’ which came into common usage after the Theosophists picked up on it, although far more ancient could either mean that between the material plane and other dimensions or quite literally above ground and below ground on the material Earth plane.
A Course in Miracles offers a picture of the use of the mind to project one’s own judgments as a split mind that then receives subjection as “at the hand of an Other”. But Othering Life is what the mind of judgement (of good+evil) DOES. As long as you want to TELL reality what it Is or should Be – you take on a false inheritance – as of a Genie of a wish to create a private reality and make it real.
That two or more agree to share a false inheritance is the power to uphold compartmentalised self illusions – but only love can truly share.
Hence an illusion of sharing – as in joining in hate against a common ‘enemy’ gives boost to an identity framed or set BY the perceived or believed threat.
Hate or conflict-driven identity does NOT recognise or know who you are. Nor under its direction can you recognise your Self or Life in your brother – or any living expression.
Judgement could in some sense be likened to a VR Mindset, that – by using it – immediately sets a backstory and character in subjection, disconnection and struggle. When story or illusion can be easily recognised as a play in imagination,the game is not confused with reality. But invested psychic-emotional identity can phish the mind that made it.
Mind in truth cannot conflict, but in concept-can conflicts be masked – as in the doublethink of plastic words by which to establish false currency in place of true – as if to generate gain of fiction over true function and ‘win’.
But the nature of representative symbol-meaning underlies the rationalising of conceptual framing, and the ‘reptilian brain’ reflects the primitive or primary orientation of an identity-complex as self-persisting or surviving.
Early instance of prodigious acts of heroes had no moral integration – but underpinned power as ‘moral right’ claimed and validated as aligned Gods – ergo: physical accomplishment.
This reflects the will to direct or enact power in the world of imaged or form-framed meanings. We know this keenly as 2 or 3 year olds:
“I WANT IT THUS!”
If you can focus and maintain intention as action – you may become a ‘reality distortion’ field. For awareness of reality has a relational or social adjunct – no man is an island – no matter how intensely he may seeks to separate from the source and nature of being in relation to.
The decision follow or lead can be guided by laziness of habit, but the freedom to choose not to follow false guidance can only be uncovered in the heart. Else the accusation of guilt, generates an equal and opposite reaction as virtue credit – within a struggle to weaponise truth as damning of the other.
What we wish for another, we unwitting give to our self.
In the matrix of fragmented personae, this seems impossible or hateful to suggest – for guilt runs replacement of God in ‘countermeasure’ – as if All the king’s horses and all the king’s men CAN or will unify.
The Course exemplifies a Prior unity that the ego cannot break or spoil but can and does suffer the belief it both has done so, but is irrevocably disconnected from the miracle of reality – by the Projections+reflection of a wish for a ‘private’ or special self-will, given power or priority as a split mind, that MUST know NOT what it does to persist, by acting FROM a past made in grievance. Existential survival is framed in the Body as means and ends both – but it has no purpose but as the mind gives -and is then conditioned to accept, adapt to and normalise.
A conflicted, fragmented and shifting purpose may seem to align against awareness of truth that would heal it. But only as it can take joy in pain and perceive joy as threat. The miracle establishes that you do not create your existence, but that what we think has consequence as extending or undermining awareness of worth.
Can a lack of self-worth boost itself by undermining others?
In your dreams!
But can dreams stabilise the conditions for support of life in truth?
The attempt to protect and control dreams drives the nightmare.
Each ‘sees’ the sins to be eradicated (in the other – who then mutates as a new ‘enemy’ is found).
So, how was the universe created?
Why was it created?
What is our role?
Is there a god?
What is the purpose of life?
We know very little about the broader picture. But YOU know Icke is a fruitcake based on his ideas?
Does matter exist? or is it part of our brain function process?
Is everything just information in the form of energy?
Are we only dreaming?
5 senses are nothing in regard to everything else out there. So, on a different frequency, there could be aliens? Right. How the fk do you know there arent?
Not having an open mind to possibilities shows that you are a fruitcake. Icke has made mistakes, but is more on the curve than you or anyone else, for that matter.
Listervelt Middleton interviews Jack D. Forbes on For the People
https://youtu.be/zCC0Kcuj-Gs?si=qYc7TzDKtQHTxsXL
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Listervelt Middleton
https://scafricanamerican.com/honorees/listervelt-middleton/
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Jack D. Forbes1934—2011
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jack-d-forbes
What if your country disappeared? Nation mulls digital existence as sea waters rise
Nov 20, 2022
Sarah Lawrynuik
https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/climate-change-tuvalu-stateless-metaverse-1.6657035
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Social Distortion – Down here With The Rest Of Us
https://youtu.be/LmNa_cjICgs?si=ToeEinsdrdqrRFTd
David Icke love him or hate him. When he said it load and he said it clear COVID does not exist. Boy did they not like it. Did they shut him down load and clear. They don’t mind you arguing if Covid was from bats or the wet food market or visiting American sport team or a bio lap leak or defibrate leak. But please don’t say COVID does not exist it was there toy there baby they had miles to go and billions to steal.
You’re close. Once you realize that a certain mid-century painter was fighting the lizards you’ll be there
Thank you Sir
https://www.penn.museum/sites/bulletin/2590/
https://www.penn.museum/collections/object/674
https://www.penn.museum/collections/object_images.php?irn=674
“So then, what’s up? Is he right? Well, at this point in this insane nightmare we are all experiencing, it would not take much to convince me these people in question are indeed lizards.”
Todd – Only Americans Burn in Hell, by Jarett Kobek – do read. You’ll love it.
Evidently there are lizard people and all wars are fake and the ‘adversaries” really are on the same side and nothing we know is true because those in charge are lizard people who are so much smarter than the rest of us ordinary humans because they know black magic.
Fucking get out there now, man.
Whatever, I’ve got kids and grandkids, and a little pride left.
If The US has directly bombed three Iranian nuclear sites then concerns of
The Only Democracy In The ME are solved, yes ? End of Conflict ?
And The Only Democracy In The ME no longer needs to bomb every Iranian
hospital, picture theatre, school, every building, to assassinate The Head
Mullah – because, like Hamas, he keeps popping up in all such places ?
Of course, if it’s really a regime change operation, and the break-up of Iran
into competing statelets, as per The Yinon Plan ?
And no American lives were lost during The Bombings… Three Cheers for
President Trump ?
How to identify a woked mind: they cannot distinguish between military and civilian targets.
They are made to defend unelected ruthless dictators like the ayatollahs or the CCP top. Their minds are div-id up in separate containers thanks to Meme Sentral Media, they cannot think for themselves anymore, so swallow any irrational or hypocritical contradiction.
Their only true function is to bring down their domestic Anglo Atlantic MIC at the right time = after other bad actors have been taken out.
And our leaders were ‘elected’
No.
They were $$$$$$$$elected.
Democracy = good, unelected = bad.
It’s almost quaint..
Putin has joined the lizards; he has abandoned the BRICS country of Iran and is instead supporting the G7 backed country of Israel.
By extension, it looks like Ukraine is a setup between two leaders working for the rulers of the west. The Ukrainians are being killed for some reason that has nothing to do with Russia rescuing the Russians.
Putin is supporting the core belief of the G7; that Israel can do anything it wants, break any international and ethical law it wants, without interference from any other country.
Putin has lost his lustre; his scales are very visible.
Oh to strut.
They all wallow in it.
Their hubris made quicksand.
This Jacky Lizard is just minding her/his own business:
Do we? Sounds like you have been listening to the fairytales of the Jewish diaspora. I know I cannot say more on a UK site for fear of punishment by the Jewish diaspora.
In defense of ancient Lizards: why blame this small minority for the ills that neo Homo sapiens commits? Making then scapegoats like the Israelis?
Sorry, it is the novel humans who are the transitional, half baked beings on the Geological scale. They are 99.99% under influence of occult satanic fallen angels, power hungry beings using the MSM with their Big Lies. Luckily for us the Creator of all angels uses negative and positive ones from both angles towards the same progressive result, but we individually have to have Faith and agree to be ITS instruments. IT has the necessary power and wisdom for every little move on your path, including ‘circumstances’. IF you are awake. AI is just its latest toy, a mini mirror of ITs capabilities which are principally unlimited and multidimensional in parallel.
Use own Intuition, not gut feeling or mass meme copying. Fear out of the window, as this biological body is just your latest vehicle only; you had many others before. Evolve and put intuition in the drivers seat, not desires, attachments or memes. Don’t be possessed by possessions, anyway you can’t take them to your next life.
There is something magnificently absurd about a world in which the most unbelievable events are dismissed as fiction while the most fictional narratives are accepted as fact. When I submitted my manuscript about EVENT 202 to Messrs. Mundane & Conventional, they returned it with the kindly suggestion that I stick to more plausible subjects—like dragons or unicorns.
We regret to inform you that your manuscript “EVENT 202: The Sequel” has been deemed unsuitable for publication. While we appreciate your distinctive style and wit, the premise is simply too far-fetched for our readers. A global pandemic used as cover for digital identity systems? Central banks orchestrating world events? PayPal founders controlling democracy? Surely even fiction has its limits.
Event 202 and a half.
https://open.substack.com/pub/grubstreetinexile/p/event-202-the-sequel?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=l1oox
This book was written as fiction, but submitted to the publisher as non-fiction. It was rejected as too unbelievable for fiction, too dangerous for non-fiction, and too true for either. Perhaps that tells us everything we need to know about the world we now inhabit.
“Truth must necessarily be stranger than fiction; for fiction is the creation of the human mind and therefore congenial to it.”
G.K. Chesterton
Don’t mention the lizards , I did it once but I think I got away with it. Is it a turd in the punchbowl as opposed to Russels turds all the way down.
Does it matter? I would argue no, if it did “They” it the dark force would have won by now, millenia into its hegemony as it were.
12 log 2-8 the inverse of the exponential or natural logarithm. A ying and yang ebb and flow thing.
Free will v Determinism.
“We must now take precautions to prevent you from being embarrassed by something in which the ignorant majority is at fault for lack of proper consideration, and so from supposing with them, that man has not been created truly good simply because he is able to do evil. … If you reconsider this matter carefully and force your mind to apply a more acute understanding to it, it will be revealed to you that man’s status is better and higher for the very reason for which it is thought to be inferior: it is on this choice between two ways, on this freedom to choose either alternative, that the glory of the rational mind is based, it is in this that the whole honor of our nature consists, it is from this that its dignity is derived.”
Pelagius.
Roger that.
Snake Charmer
Aldous Huxley warned us about the Lizardmen:
“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution”
A brief history of Iran:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2025/06/why-do-we-hate-iran/
The Lizardmen are white Christians with an insatiable appetite for OIL.
Here he is – Johnny in an active mode of open racism towards whites (and Christians). And no problem, he was not warned. So, in this regard, I want to ask: if so, I should also be allowed to show open racism towards non-white people. Or is it only racism towards non-whites that is racism, and towards whites it is not?
Thanks for the big intro A.
So when and where does the acknowledgment of the ‘SINS’ OF OUR FATHERS begin?
We have dominion because it says so in the Bible?
The indigenous people on this planet know a thing or two about genocide.
Do you?
I’m afraid of you, you’re like Hitler, the black anti-white Hitler of Revenge.
I wouldn’t be surprised if, when I walk in here next time, I find my avatar thrown into the gaslighting chamber.. : (
Revenge?
Don’t you mean justice, or even Karma.
Just another lizard that, skillfully using its cunning snake tongue, tries to convince us that they don’t exist, in an attempt to stop the growing evidence.
Thetruthisactionwhenithurts
The Italy 3rd and USA 4th and then U.K 2nd all sold as die hard Christian Conservatives who wanted to put there countries first and they did with the locking down QR codes vaccines test and trace charging people 2000 pound to have some cunt visit your house daily to check if you was in, when you came back on holiday which meant you had to supply a nose swab or be tested which cost up to 150£ to go on holiday to be bullied to wear or mask or face not being lot on the plane.
Italy had a not vaccine nor work policy.
What I witnessed was mindcontrol as you do not need to go back as far as lizards of yester years just 4 years ago and Donald is back and they all forget what he signed and did.
You dont need reptilians. people are so mindcontroled and it will take more than RFK with his bullshit to get them to stop believing in evil under the guise of saving them.
Your correct Todd.
Look, this is pure conspiracy territory—stuff you’d see on fringe forums, not in any verified reports—but it’s out there, and people eat it up because it’s easier to imagine pure evil-possessed individuals, or lizards, than corrupt humans pulling the strings.
Why would my friends neighbour call the police on someone for having someone around during covid but was not aware it was a Healthcare professional.
Remember the look in theses people eyes when they was told by the government that the reason for extending the lock downs again was because people weren’t wearing masks following 6 meter rule and they was refusing the 2nd 3rd vaccine or they attended the anti lockdown demonstration (known as the super spreader events).
It was not aliens telling theses people, it was people who screamed ”PUT your mask on” or refused you entry into shops, hospitals or wanted you harmed or worse.
concentration camps for anti vaccer. Hotels converted into 14 days quarantine centers.
Stickers on floors telling you wear to stand or else.
UK children was abused by gangs of doctors telling them they had to be tested 3 times aweek and not to mixed with others who was not tested,
that is the real never again or “Lest we forget”
it was true.
David Icke is one of the most prolific and informative writers of our time. First and Foremost, Icke is a reporter. He reported on the reptiles like anything else dysfunctional and corrupt in our existence and it’s affects on humanity. His experience, research and sources are amazing. Having said that, I have personal experience with the reptiles.After seeing them I would have thought nothing of it until they harassed me. I realized they fear us and they surveil humans on all technology. Consciousness is our ONLY salvation. Remember who you are…You bring the power, the life and love of source and they fear your awakening to who you are. They cannot exist with out us. We cannot be apart of their deceit, murder, hate and constant lying. Strap on your armor of the love of life and stop participating in their fake simulation. Do not confuse college degrees with intelligence. Expand your consciousness and do your own research.
He was a good goalie as well.
They fear us because we have a soul which they will never have. They know it is great power for us.
Love me like a reptile
Love Me like a Reptile – Motörhead (Lyrics)
RIP Lemmy
The serpent work of corrupting humanity didn’t stop with Adam he and his comrades have always been a major source of it
Don’t know about shapeshifting lizard men but evidence for one or more alien high-tech equipped races having created modern humans (the “gods” – later boiled down to the one and only God) is plentiful in ancient writings, monument inscriptions and legends that date back further than the Egyptian culture, and these legends are told all across the world.
Well, here it is – the eagle, with the bag in his hand and the wristwatch, and so on, carries a cone in his hand. (The Eagle – the same as the Catanedian “unknowable force that gives consciousness to all living beings, which the ancients, interpreting, saw and likened as an Eagle.” Because he is an Eagle-man, but the old cunning trickster Carlos has again stolen and changed to fit his Totec series.)
Here you can see even more clearly – it carries a pine cone.
https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api/collection/v1/iiif/322619/1568254/main-image
https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/the-assyrian-sculpture-court
And here is where he carries it (there are even two eagles) – to put it right on top of something that has six key things on each side (twelve in total… by which I do not mean “twelve disciples”), and the Eagles wear cones to put them on the top, where there is only one, seventh knot, or the thirteenth, “who is not of the twelve” (without wanting to make analogies with the Master of the twelve disciples). Here it is:
https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api/collection/v1/iiif/322610/1568264/main-image
Here is the pine cone:
“The 7th chakra is the Crown or Sahaswara, which translates to “thousand petaled.” This chakra is pure consciousness energy.
The Crown chakra is one of those energies that’s hard to explain.
Our own personal consciousness is located in the 7th chakra, but it’s really more like the seed of a universal energy than something personal or individual.”
https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/the-ubaid-period-5500-4000-b-c
“Mainly female”, so they say. I’m not sexist, but apparently the likening of women to snakes has some ancient grounds.
Todd has nothing to explain to me, to deal with Jung and Occam’s razor there. Come on : )
..Here is a hypothetical picture of such a hypothetical thing with seven knots and two identical, but also different sides (such as two arms, two legs, two eyes, two ears, two brain halves…), which, if we count one knot for each side, makes twelve… knots, not disciples. And at the top – a pine cone.
Lloyd Pye presented a compelling theory of ‘evolution’ (on this planet at least), based on an interpretation of the available ‘scientific’ anthropological evidence combined with Mr.Sitchin’s interpretations of the Sumerian texts.
There’s more to swallow here, Todd. 43 years ago yesterday, I was onboard HMS Yarmouth, and engaged in removing 10 Argentinian scientists from South Thule, a remote island in the South Atlantic. This was a post-Falklands war mopping up operation, and they’d been occupying it since 1976.
Imagine my shock when I discovered much later my proximity to alleged evil – Black Goo, and that the deeply spiritual Akashic Records described it as follows:
“In the realms of esoteric knowledge and vibrational science, Black Goo is not merely a substance, but a conscious, sentient substrate—a primordial intelligence that exists at the threshold between organic life and technological interface, between matter and spirit. It is often described as a quantum mineral intelligence, semi-sentient, holding the capacity to record, transmit, and influence consciousness, memory, and emotional frequency across timelines and dimensions.”
https://wirralinittogether.blog/2025/06/20/i-was-at-south-thule-today-43-years-ago-a-consultation-of-the-akashic-records-did-the-british-or-other-navies-seek-black-goo-in-the-falklands
“Black oil” MAJOR subplot of The X Files.
Satan’s little minions busy doing his work..
There’s more to swallow here, Todd. 43 years ago yesterday, I was onboard HMS Yarmouth, and engaged in removing 10 Argentinian scientists from South Thule, a remote island in the South Atlantic. This was a post-Falklands war mopping up operation, and they’d been occupying it since 1976.
Imagine my shock when I discovered much later my proximity to alleged evil – Black Goo, and that the deeply spiritual Akashic Records described it as follows:
“In the realms of esoteric knowledge and vibrational science, Black Goo is not merely a substance, but a conscious, sentient substrate—a primordial intelligence that exists at the threshold between organic life and technological interface, between matter and spirit. It is often described as a quantum mineral intelligence, semi-sentient, holding the capacity to record, transmit, and influence consciousness, memory, and emotional frequency across timelines and dimensions.”
https://wirralinittogether.blog/2025/06/20/i-was-at-south-thule-today-43-years-ago-a-consultation-of-the-akashic-records-did-the-british-or-other-navies-seek-black-goo-in-the-falklands
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Lizards do seem to be pretty numerous in various myth cycles. They seem to be associated with knowledge – the most famous Western example being the snake in the Garden of Eden. And although that’s taken to be the Devil and therefore evil, the result of the snake’s influence is to awaken Adam and Eve to knowledge and basically transform them from animals into humans (a foreshadowing of the notion of evolution?).
Maybe not from animal to human but more from being cast out from an idyllic (no demands required) paradise to being asked to fend for oneself.One’s obligatory rite of passage?
Although who is one asked to fend with. Always worth asking
Lizardmen are not real. The earth is relatively round, not flat. Nuclear power exists. I’ve seen it in that, my relatives who live near 3 Mile Island all had their thyroids out. All of them.
I’ve known those with thyroid conditions. Something to correct ‘hyper-‘ and something to correct ‘hypo-‘. Maybe both are similarly misguided.
The downside to ‘blanket’ decisions perhaps?
GayJesus was born in 1677, to split the vote.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/was-the-temple-of-king-salomo-in-spain-part-03.6745/
Obviously complete BS, like the flat earth ‘stuff’. Nevertheless why spout it given such a good taste in music. Seem incongruous imho. Just wondering?
“Lizardmen are not real.”
The Hell they’re not.
Time shows no mercy to anyone. We all end up ugly bugly.
Todd — have to say that was an impoverished essay, muddled & meandering in both presentation & content.
Question being, have you read any of Icke’s many books, or watched his lectures detailing the research & analyses? Aware of how on target he’s been all along?
Same goes for anyone on this forum.
If not, the belittlement and pretense of critique demonstrates blindness & cluelessness — pointing out personal limitations. Something of who you are, and/or are not.
Is this journalism? Or just verbiage performed in the name of throwing any shite at the wall?
In service of what?
It all has to prove up. Meanwhile, the majority of Icke’s works has done just that.
If you don’t mind being a horse’s butt in public, then by all means carry on. As a depth psychotherapist, perhaps a rightful moment for looking in the mirror.
If due diligence is not your strength, then i would suggest putting down the pen. What’s the point?
The current state of the world does not need more wasted words to wade through.
alby
In comments Todd said he’s read 5 of DI’s books.
One of DI’s most important assertions is Question everything and that includes his books.
Todd’s doing that here. Not throwing shite at wall.
In my longer comment I added links to DI talks.
And they also mask and conceal their evil deeds through “sanitization and strategic silence,” in the form of “sleight of tongue” (their slimey and slithery snake and lizard tongues).
EXAMPLE: Instead of contaminating Iran and poisoning the Iranian people by dropping atomic weapons on cities, as was done to the Japanese in WWII, they are using “bunker busters” and other non-nuclear weapons on uranium enrichment facilities and nuclesr power plants so we don’t see mushroom clouds and have to look at incinerated and disfigured bodies.
The hand may be quicker than the eye, but the tongue is quicker than the mind.
Who knows. I’m guessing real-world evidence is always pivotal.
Any link or reference to back up the claims or should opinion be sufficient?
A personal interpretation based on, for me, difficult to ignore, earlier reported events, followed by even more recent reports of escalated events.
I’m probably one of the very few people who does believe that Hitler was uniquely evil. This notion a convenient way of rationalizing that period of history by implying if he hadn’t existed (or had been ‘taken out’) then all would have been sweetness and light. This neatly dodges collective blame for what happened as well as skirting around the notion that he wasn’t unique, its just his administration was just uniquely good at what it did.
If you’ve studied the rise of Nazism then you’ll see parallels between the Nazi government in the 1930s and the current US administration. This doesn’t mean they’re identical — people jump to conclusions based on symbols which, after all, are just a form of marketing — but they follow similar patterns to achieve similar goals based on similar intractable economic and social problems. It would actually help us to understand better what’s happening if we adopted period German terms for what we’re currently doing in the US but we’d have to be careful not to overdo it. (Overuse allows us to collectively rationalize thing. For example, its far easier to say that Trump’s not a Nazi because there are no swastikas than to delve into the details of how federal government and power balance has been systematically corrupted in the name of ‘national emergency’. Its also easy to say that modern ICE detention facilities aren’t concentration camps because they’re modern concrete structures rather than the historical image of wooden shacks surrounded by barbed wire even though they serve the similar purpose of ‘detaining undesirables’.)
As for lizards and stuff, people have been trying to personify evil since the dawn of time. Its so much easier to come to terms with when its outside us.
Might there be a distinction between the ‘special’ person and the ‘crowd’?
The ‘special’ person being allowed to break all the rules that apply to the common person, since they are after all ‘special’. Like a Police officer being able to use arms whereas the common-or-garden citizen (at least in the UK) cannot.
My guess would be that your bog-standard tyrant regards themselves as having a similarly unique role. They being above your common morals and being allowed to break them as they have been appointed, or at least authorised, to do.
You on an AIPAC stipendium? Go away and read AJP Taylor and Carroll Quigley and Gerry Docherty and Jim McGregor and Guido Preparata,with Harry Elmer Barnes as well and come back here to tell us how you refute them.
Brainwashed way too much?
Your beliefs are serving you – or rather they are serving who you are currently choosing to be the unfolding expression of.
Uniqueness is the signature of God’s Covenant, but self-specialness is the lie and the father of it.
If Money Power running stealth mode had not nurtured and cultured Bolshevism and facism, it would not have been so easy to lay waste to a world it then restructures, while degrading its British host for the US.
That Money Power leverages and manipulates the mass mind, for an insider elitism extends to full spectrum dominance – in which everything is marketised, weaponised and thus devalued – EXCEPTING as war on life.
Money power rightly belongs under Public Authority – of transparency and accountability. Currently war on Public Authority seeks to deny not only our voice, but the mind by which to ask and receive of a true desire to know, be certain, heal, extend peace, share in gratitude and appreciation for being-without coercion.
I don’t buy the Lizard people story – I think in reality its a metaphor for evil people who come from planet Earth, and are so cold and uncaring that they could be described as cold blooded lizards.
Where to start on the lizard people – the PTB for sure they are all cold as ice – and they control just about everything except free will – which is slowly but surely being reduced – controlled, and used against us – ie, free will sees terrorist attacks (false flag events) -so our freedoms are – and will constantly be under review and reduced by the PTB – we the masses – are being squeezed from all sides by the so called lizard people, its all about control, Icke knew he’d cause an uproar by saying lizard people controls the Earth and us – the only thing he got wrong was that they’re not lizards, but they are as cold blooded as lizards.
Maybe we’re all essentially cold. Some fall by the wayside, whilst we accept triumph.
I suppose we did give them some thought post-mortem. They clearly had talent. Where they are now, who knows… does anyone care?
“Maybe we’re all essentially cold. Some fall by the wayside, whilst we accept triumph.”
I believe there are more good people than bad people in the world – unfortunately the bad ones appear to have most of the power.
Good point, though isn’t the universal “good peoples’s” compassion for the masses a tad false, when one is the same as those kicking someone into an early grave in order to achieve one’s own success.
iow should achieving the number one slot override such minor considerations as the expense of the (never) has-beens. Lamb chop, anyone?
The mindset of relative virtue is misguidedly desperate to mask over conflicts it is not ready or willing to address within. So it puts them in a world of bad people.
Jesus rebuked those who called him good, as setting up the tempter, accuser and deceiver. Put it behind you at once!
Power OVER and APART from Life is nothing you want – in your right mind, but once tempted to engage in its terms you are NOT in your right mind.
The original Good in the Bible is resonant recognition – a true beholding – not a judgemental exclusivity of self-specialness.
The oneness of Life is hidden by the wish to grasp and possess it in image and form. Symbols of Life can be taken out of living context to run as currencies of communication and exchange, but only power in Life hold all things one. False currencies become control systems. Structures become sacrificial dictates.
Form follows function, but a usurping function uses form to mask in. Minds locked into form based meanings cannot recognise reality, but that is by the wish to NOT know – and not the power of an alien will (excepting your wish is given cover by those who use what you throw away).
Pure tosh
Do you think your thoughts are your own?
I have been told they are.
Caricatures perhaps. The ‘lizard’ paradigm can perhaps be simplified into those in authority being outright evil and we down below being pure epitomes of saints.
Is it based on truth?
Indeed it is. All BS is ‘based’ on some kinda truth, otherwise if wouldn’t be plausible. You need some kind of a basis before you can hope to corrupt it.
Epstein provided a social club. Exclusivity, until of course the whole world knew about it.
‘They’ simply had the wrong inspirations. Herman Hesse in Hitler’s case. He was the model ‘Steppenwolf’ (cf the “Wolf’s Lair”). Tyrants don’t spring from nowhere.They had their inspirations too.Blame the authors they read and the philosophers that preceded them.
The WEF is from start to finish ‘stakeholder captialism’. In a nutshell, essentially more people than you would like sticking their noses into your business and interfering with it.
So Icke throws crazy ideas out. Who knows what his motive is. He has a following I guess. Maybe that might be it in its entirety. Once a celebrity, always a celebrity?
When you discover that what they’re trying to create through NBICS
technologies is a Planetary Biocybernetic Superorganism where human beings will be transmuted in mere neuroblasts of its Global Brain, the idea that this “Divine Plan” comes not from humans but from a superhuman Occult Hierarchy seems not too far fetched anymore.
https://www.unido.org/sites/default/files/files/2020-01/Convergent%20technologies.pdf
What does all those new word and new speak in unido mean in practical terms?
Rodrigo you put the link on the table, explain.
First of all, I would not include Whitney Webb’s work in the category of “wild conspiracy theories.” Her work is heavily referenced, logical and presented in a factual manner. Secondly, why is it so hard to imagine that people can do horrible, ghastly things without invoking Satan or lizards? Sixty plus years has made it very clear to me that people can exhibit a very wide range of mentalities, demeanor, intelligence, compassion or lack thereof, etc. Why is the horror that comes from power so hard to fathom?
Todd, please, take a hiatus. I have a feeling you are in burnout or on the way to it. You are beating a dead horse for a while ….. and now lizards….
Here is something more constructive and fruitful about how people plunge into evil:
PHILIP ZIMBARDO: The Lucifer Effect Understanding How Good People Turn Evilyoutu.be/Jc_e9M8M-RU?t=276
Mik the dik, you need to get a grip. Write an article to express your thoughts. Your insult is just a kick in the balls to make yourself seem intelligent.
I’m not a native speaker so writing an article is quite a job for me.
Insult? Would you mind explaining?
Maybe you thought the author was being serious about lizard people and you needed to put him in his place, into hiatus.
So what do you think he was trying to convey? You can see he did not bother to respond. That says a lot.
No response regarding my alleged insult?
Of course, he wasn’t serious about lizards. It’s a pity that shill Icke have even been mentioned in offguardian.
Todd knows me very well, it’s not the first time I went on him and every time he deserved it. I recommended hiatus because he is showing symptoms of possible burnout.
You know, there are some dirty jobs most people avoid. I’m not running away from them: A man’s got to do what a man’s got to do.
“….he did not bother to respond.That says a lot.”
Maybe he is a pussy. Anyhow, that says nothing, certainly not to me.
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Good link. Philip Zimbardo is good. Let me do the resume because you were too busy:
Examples from AbuGhraiB, Stansfield Prison experiments: It is the system who makes good people evil.
The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every single human being (Alexander Solzenitsyn). It is a personal choice every man and woman must take.
Heroism is the medicin against it.
The psycology of evil – Philip Zimbardo https://youtu.be/OsFEV35tWsg This link cuts it to 18 minutes. (Enough time to spend on evilnes ;-D)
“ It is a personal choice every man and woman must take.”
Not really according to Zimbardo and Milgram and I agree with them. Some nasty circumstances swallow most of the people, up to 90%. The rest are ubermenschen I would say.
There’s more to swallow here, Todd. 43 years ago yesterday, I was onboard HMS Yarmouth, and engaged in removing 10 Argentinian scientists from South Thule, a remote island in the South Atlantic. This was a post-Falklands war mopping up operation, and they’d been occupying it since 1976.
Imagine my shock when I discovered much later my proximity to alleged evil – Black Goo, and that the deeply spiritual Akashic Records described it as follows:
“In the realms of esoteric knowledge and vibrational science, Black Goo is not merely a substance, but a conscious, sentient substrate—a primordial intelligence that exists at the threshold between organic life and technological interface, between matter and spirit. It is often described as a quantum mineral intelligence, semi-sentient, holding the capacity to record, transmit, and influence consciousness, memory, and emotional frequency across timelines and dimensions.”
https://wirralinittogether.blog/2025/06/20/i-was-at-south-thule-today-43-years-ago-a-consultation-of-the-akashic-records-did-the-british-or-other-navies-seek-black-goo-in-the-falklands/
This is such a bullshit story.
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“A serial killer named David Berkowitz who murdered six people in New York City during the 1970s”.
Repeating a MSM narrative without performing some due diligence. “They lie about everything else so…. “.
Firstly, the specific case – Berkovitz was no innocent but he was the fall-guy for a wider group and it’s highly unlikely he committed all six of these murders. See Maury Terry’s ‘The Ultimate Evil’ (although of course this isn’t to be totally believed either but it’s a start).
Secondly, the broader issue – the whole “serial killer” phenomenon is hugely dubious. Anyone else noticing how it seems to have been quietly retired? See Dave McGowan’s ‘Programmed to kill’ (less well-known than his Laurel Canyon book but it’s better). The lone nut serial killer looks more than a little like the lone nut assassin – and that’s not a coincidence.
The Phoenix Program came home!
I would not argue with anything you say here…but I am a writer, and the reference to Berkovitz made my point. If I had to go into this sort of nuanced detail any time I made a statement, my articles would be 1,000 pages long. But thank you (sincerely) for bringing it up, I do think it is ultimately important.
The Grey wolves comes to mind. The military’s assassination sniper corps.
These cowards within the military Intelligence need scapegoats to hide behind to take the guilt for their stupid atrocities.
What I miss is suicide bombers. Whatever happened to suicide bombers?
Hitler possessed by…
See
The Truth About Hitler – EricDubay.com, links in the comments to the video, some of them work,
he does ‘dinosaurs’ too !,
Hi Teachers,
Who knows about Hitler…I read Mein Kampf, which is all I needed to get some insight into the guy. Assuming he wrote it…and of course, I read a translation…
Really should have got that signed copy when I volunteered at British Heart Foundation, both frauds,
Only time Sun City Girls played in Scotland, they …
You got my details already, right ?
Hitler is an interesting chapter….but for another time. The same issues and claims we have today seems to be the same they had then.
For my part I didnt went further than to the Nürnberg laws and the Aryan race in this story. https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-entity_search/5513561/550340449/S600xU_2x .
The German population were rightfully angered by the Versailles Treaty impossible to fulfill, leading to poverty and mass unemployment in the 1930’es, and were easy pray to their Kanzler.
But it went too far with these pure racism laws in 1935! pointing three ethnic groups living inside Germany out, as sub-humans without any rights to be punished.
It is the same I have against smoloko and these sites. They point at some obvious injustice (The Versailles) Treaty, and the next step is to appoint some nameless group(s) as scapegoats.
I remember reading somewhere (it’s too hot to feel inspired to do the research but you can look it up if you like 😂) that David Icke had written and spoken out about so many truths that tptb had to take him down. He was invited to a meeting and was, through hypnosis / brainwashing, persuaded to believe in the lizard story. It made him the unacceptable face of truth-telling and lost him the more discerning of his many followers. It sounds plausible to me because killing him would have made his original views have credence but making him a full-on weirdo destroyed the plausibility of the truths he was revealing.
What you say actually makes a lot of sense. I’ve seen this sort of thing happen before…if you discredit someone it is much better than killing him and making him a martyr.
It’s easy to discredit and will do your ego the power of good to ridicule something that cannot be proved. But evil does exist as the counter to good. There may well be an evil force beyond our intelligence. But please don’t ridicule someone for mentioning it, I mean, every religion has its demons? right.
Things have happened in my life that go beyond belief, so in my opinion, there are other forces out there
I find the lizard theory plausible, both metaphorically and literally, though I usually argue the former position.
Sometimes, the truth is not believed — say most recently the Convid scam — because to do so requires a wholesale rethinking of one’s own beliefs and worldview, which is more than most people want to do or are even capable of doing.
“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.”
That’s H.P. Lovecraft. Then, there’s Plato’s Cave, or the simple truism of “ignorance is bliss. Most people don’t want to look.
Whatever their type and genesis, the rulers/owners of this world appear largely ill-disposed towards the great majority of its inhabitants, viewing them at best with sheer indifference, or at worst, with active malice and malevolence. In practical terms, is there even much of a difference?
He references many instances of “Lizard people” in antiquity from many cultures legends, but the guy he promoted to really sell it was “Credo Mutwa” a S.African Zulu “medicine man”, who was charged with fraud amongst other things, including accusations of child molesting, being drummed out of multiple villages. 15-20 yrs ago there used to be a YT video of him on some S.African talk show in a cheap suit when he was ~40yo before he reinvented himself as the wise old Zulu medicine man, but Icke only presented him in fancy tribal robes retelling the Lizard people legend.
I don’t buy the “avoid creating a Martyr” theory, too many good researchers have been suicided or outright murdered, Bill Cooper and mathew North spring to mind. They mite try to discredit them, and later suicide them though, e.g. Gary Webb.
DI is an enigma, his early stuff (see the wogan interview for an example) could have been taken straight out of Blatvasky/Theosophical society writings with his own spin on it, which is really his whole MO, taking old obscure research and putting his own spin on it all to weave his own “original research” narrative; of course much of it is accurate, all the best stories have a lot of truth to them, but the “out there” stuff is a gift to the globalists, and since he fails to see that, well that’s just a question of credibility IMO. I still read his stuff, I take from it what I like and leave the rest.
Basically, if you can’t prove it, with credible tracable sources, what use is it.