Trusting the People Who Love You
Todd Hayen

You’ve read a lot from me about this topic. How can the people who love you treat you the way they do? This is, of course, assuming you are on this side of things (critical thinkers) and they are on the other (sheep).
Sorry about the “division.” I know a lot of you have said over the years that you don’t like the idea of “sides.” Neither do I. But I think it is pretty obvious there is some sort of division here. Clearly, it is not as distinct as everyone (including me) wants to make it, but if you paint in broad strokes, there are definitely sides. However, I would very much agree that not everyone fits on one side or the other. There are lots of grey areas, thank God.
My article here doesn’t really apply to people in the grey. It is more for people in a relatively clear bucket. Like me. Although I have my grey as well around certain key areas, I stick to clear positions with things like governments forcing vaccines on us (for any reason) or any government calling on action that murders children. Stuff like that.
But even on grey area issues, there are people within families and friend circles who vilify people in a grey area. Take censorship of speech, for example. I think most people are in a grey area with that one. Or the issue of capital punishment. But in these cases, it is a matter of detail. Should there be capital crimes where people lose their lives? Such as murdering children? What seems to be going on today is a zero-tolerance position. Meaning if you set conditions for certain situations, you are hated. Most of us do not do this (some do, of course) but most sheep do.
But this article isn’t even about this. It sort of is, but specifically it is about people who love you (or claim to) not even giving you the benefit of the doubt—not even respecting you enough to “consider you” and consider your position, your beliefs, your warnings, or your view. They don’t have to agree, but they should consider—which means to contemplate, and to think. Seriously.
I have a friend who is a shrew (as any reader of mine knows by now, “shrews” are people who for the most part think outside of the main stream narrative). His wife is a sheep. He begged her not to take the vax when it first came out. Of course, at the time, he did not have a lot of information as to why a person should avoid it, but he felt he had enough factual reason, alongside his general intuitive apprehension. He told her his reasoning, which included a lot of scientific insight.
But she pooh-poohed all that he said. In fact, she called him an idiot for even suggesting something as irresponsible as refusing the vaccine. Now she is very ill. And it is very likely that her illness is related to the shot. Needless to say, she still does not believe the jab has anything to do with her illness. He thinks it does, of course, but he cannot be sure, either.
And it isn’t just the vax. Nearly everything this man says that he has observed about the world, she has issues with. She listens to nothing with any sincerity and discounts everything he comments on. She has zero trust in the man she claims she loves regarding his insight, his intelligence, his common sense, and his ability to discern right from wrong. And she treats him this way.
Obviously, this not only happens with partners, but with family members as well. The strange thing to me about this is that if we love someone, the first thing we must do is trust them. We trust their judgement, we trust that they are looking out for us in the best way they know how, and we believe “the best way they know how” is viable and valid.
We don’t have to agree with them. They always could be wrong, but we trust that what they believe, they sincerely believe, and that they have the genuine intention to do what is right by you. If they didn’t love you, they couldn’t be fully trusted. They would look out for themselves before looking out for you. But if they love you, and you love them, that is not an option.
But this does not seem to be happening in many situations. People do not seem to be listening to what their partners and other loved ones are saying in a sincere way. They do not even question them, they do not think for a moment, “they must have good reason to say this.” But rather, they consider these people who are speaking from a place of love to be fools, conspiracy theorists, or worse.
One of the primary things we seem to have lost during this insanity is trusting the intentions of our loved ones. Again, I do not mean trust in the belief that our loved ones are always correct. There are times for this sort of trust as well, for instance, if you are incapacitated and have lost the ability to make decisions for yourself. Then, at those times, you have to trust your loved ones will catch you when you fall.
But this is a bit different. You may have the capacity to make your own decisions, but you may not have all of the information you require to make a sound one. Even if you believe that you do, and someone you love, and who loves you, says, “no, you haven’t! Listen to what I have to say!” you must pause for a moment and think to yourself, “I should listen to this, it comes from a source I trust, a source that loves me and cares for me.”
But people are not doing this.
People are being taught not to trust love. There are a lot of ways to do this. We see it in the media, in movies and on television, love is not to be trusted. Men are certainly not to be trusted (are there more women who do not listen to men than the other way around?)
Maybe this is a long shot to say, but it is certainly an intention of the agenda to break trust with anyone except who or what the agenda says we should trust. We are not supposed to make any decisions at all without the agenda’s approval. So, with this twisted understanding, something as “unscientific” as love—partner love or family love—should never be trusted.
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So the message is really muddy here. You are saying that people are trying to control you in the name of ‘love’, but yet it is the world that is telling you not to trust love. Sounds like you are saying the same thing with the article. That said, people aren’t taught how to really love, and thus it logically follows that their attempts to show ‘love’ for someone else often (perhaps usually) go awry. Dominance, control, lack of respect for alternate views, these all are primary reasons for the behaviors that have some element of ‘love’ to them, but are fundamentally misguided. Have I summed it up in a way that now makes sense?
Yes.
Many comments have disappeared (including mine). Also a recent article has been removed, one concerning the US, I think (I hadn’t read it).
Trusting the people who love you.
If you didnt believe the article before you now got a practical exercise. 😅 .
Jaysus, Mary & Joseph.
Why do members of the mafia, generally, come out smelling of roses.
Do you mean “like” roses? The idiom makes no sense with the ubiquitous “of.”
You a friend of David Cameroon at the Piers Gaveston Society?
A hint. People lay roses on graves.
Do you understand it now or do we have to bend it in neon?
Active again after a session grovelling in front of the psycho child killer.
Sore knees.
That ain’t close to started.
No backbone.
Mush.
30.06.2025, between 19:00 and 21:00, somewhere in Europe. Currently, the Comments box here lists 14 comments. How strange. All the other over 100 comments, disappeared into the future. I thought I had traveled backwards in time, accidentally passing through a time hole (that’s what my ex-girlfriend called me, by the way – a full hole.)
Almost in all likelihood, the attack that caused the destruction of the comments of the last two days was caused by the well-known and influential Belarusian hackers, “Lukashenko’s black cyber warriors of death”, on his orders in order to erase from the face of the Internet my thorough exposure of the meme “Luka – covid dissident”.
This seems most likely.
And selected comments continue to disappear.
The best controlled narrative website flavored with truth. ; )
What’s your approach at the minute?
Your output doesn’t appear typical or organic, your energy is hostile, you write incredibly prolifically, leaving many long comments over the span of many, many hours, to the point you’re completely dominating the comments.
However, not all our commenters have your time resources or stamina, and all of a sudden we get a problem in terms of fairness. If you fill the comments with one long comment after another, it can suffocate organic conversation.
Seems like you’ve stepped this up since the recent unfortunate occurrence with the missing comments.
If, as well as this, you’re going to cease being congenial and pepper all your many comments with snideness and implication against Offg, playing on people’s fears at a vulnerable time, then you’re being far more destructive to open discourse than you may realise.
Therefore I’m flagging this up to you.
No one regrets the recent comments going missing more than I, however capitalising on this to create a toxic, suffocating atmosphere BTL is not the way forward, and I really have no issue holding comments back if you continually do this.
You have a lot of leeway here, @Armistice, and you have a great many comments published. Rule of thumb, if something doesn’t get through and you suspect you may have been a bit mean and/or long-winded, try making your point again more concisely and/or being a bit less bitchy lol, and I’m sure it’ll get through every time.
We don’t have a strict policy on one-sided conversations BTL, or a comment/word limit per article or anything, mostly because people are here to chat and this regulates itself very nicely. However, from now on, let’s keep it to three long comments per article, if you please, and let’s see how we go. No self-replies either. Let’s make sure the comments don’t become The Great Wall of @Armistice! :))
Thank you, A2
Far better and more pleasant than the Chinese one (I don’t even require proof of vaccination).
I took responsibility and made things right, Sam. Now the atmosphere should improve.
Thank you
I like your comments @armistice, it was just getting a bit nasty. Maybe the recent lost comments upset you. It upset me too tbh so I can totally understand if so. Perhaps I was a little heavy handed, and I’m sorry if I was. Hope to see you back in the offg hood one of these days. Take care till then 😀 A2
Many comments disappeared out of the blue. I asked my silver-hat wtf it is. It says it is Israel. Hacking all comments they dont like.
Vai, vai, vai, effendi…. Ahura Mazda and the Prophets to help us!
This is antisemitic; stick to the theory of Belarusian hackers from Lukashenko’s “angels of death”.
Lukashenko would never bother 1 second about what is written about Belarus in West.
When we for once have a President doing a decent job why not praise the guy for that. https://youtu.be/EEfrhzHpsaU Me leva.
But, despite this, not the article with three uncomfortable questions to Uncle Samuel.greatizrael, but the one recalling a hundred uncomfortable facts about big bad Uncle Sam.mill disappeared. Strangely.
ISRAEL
It was voken YHWH 😂
IT don’t like us:
Hebrews 9:27
Another bunch of, free willed, blameless sucklings, with capacity for eternal obedience, will die today even before having earned the wage
Romans 6:23
All for for some psycho fun
Philippians 2:13
Billions of a-hole humans worship similar … Houston, we have a problem.
Let’s hope that the controllers really are tooth fairies.
It’s nearly unbelievable. The 3 letter acronym seems to make more sense for the psychos..
2030, or soon thereafter, will be great relief.
All my life I have been presented with the story about the poor oppressed Doos everybody was after, and whose enemies destroyed their Temple and kicked them out of their >1000 years promised land Israel.
Until I discussed Jeremiah’s book with Lu1 here and found out it was not the awful Romans, the awful Ottomans, the awful Christians who kicked out the Doos from their land……….but God himself. 😂 😂 😂 .
Why did God made the Doos loose their promised land? Because they worshipped the Beast and burnt their own children in sacrifices to get more shekels.
All written in the scriptures Jeremiah’s book itself. NO I have not anything to do with what is written in prophet Jeremiah’s book.
Go and look for yourself…………………if you dare for Israel.
Erik you’re getting increasingly religious about this. That video explanation you shared the other day? I mean, you’re entitled to your beliefs, but that level of biblical literalism is unfalsifiable, isn’t it? Please be very clear in future that your convictions about Jews are ultimately based on your interpretation of the Christian faith. It’s important to make this distinction if we’re being transparent. Thank you, A2
I will scrutinize myself in all my future comments after your advice, and try to be more sharp so people understand that my entrance to the case is pure evaluation of facts, in order to make us all wiser.
But it is a difficult issue as we are dealing with spiritual matters and present physical reality at the same time. Both Gaza and God are sensitives and heavily politicised.
You know The book of Jeremiah. I mean its ridiculous if some people start to howl and whine over just an reference to a book.
Whatever, for myself it was a big revelation that the decades long media presentation was so far out, in not to taking this into question.
Same with Netanyahu’s public declaration of Talmud as Israel’s law, and next Western Leaders back up and support to this.
All are factual matters with huge implications on our lives and future.
Thanks for taking your time and for your advise.
YHWH ITself, allegedly, makes the death appointment which is the opposite of a random occurrence.
Without a sin wage for death the reponsibility to preserve blameless suckling children (with, as you allege, infinite capacity to obey via the action of free will) in a condition without the occurrence of either death or gnashing of teeth to them is IT’s reponsibility (manna from heaven and a magical shield around the child to protect from the parents should do nicely).
Only a psycho, with alleged omnipotence & “Holiness”, would permit the parents do, to the blameles, that which is stated.
The children died blameless, without sin, without that wage – their state was as Eden without the apple.
For the sucklings, the wages of sin were not death.
YHWH is a voken liar.
The worship of such is evidence of an entirely mis-oriented moral compass.
Most a-holes have similar or one that is completely missing.
They smell, at best, of sh*t and not roses.
This protection is already build into the child’s body and soul.
As previously told, children has a full developed moral compass as 6 year olds.
The child deceases comes from within to develop the child’s immune system. NOT as a virus from outside who needs a vaccine.
God has thereby done everything we human’s would expect.
You and your like in contradiction did not what you were supposed to do.
Parents should protect their children, Neighbours should protect children, the community and society should protect their children, the political leaders of the country should have protected their children.
They didnt! THEY failed. THEY committed a very serious crime by willful negligence or willful violence against children.
Again and again you with others run away from your personal responsibility and try desperately to transfer your weakness and failures on others …. ultimately on God. Wrong!
“This protection is already build into the child’s body and soul.”
Another crock of sh*t .
There is no protection against unearned pain, anguish and death.
YHWH, as surely as the Amalek sucklings, killed them with no wage having been earned.
The psycho and the psychos accomplice.
Being called a full hole is better than being called a complete time hole. Be proud of yourself.
I wear my Conspiracy Theorist badge with pride – occasionally – Occam’s Razor prevails, but in this day and age and what governments and their agencies, NGO’s etc, are up to – Occam’s Razors is usually stuck in the Overton Window.
If loved ones won’t budge on their position even after you show them info on a subject – then just let them be, they’ll either come around or they won’t – in this day and age we need to be suspicious of every event that occurs – however they’ll always be folk who don’t see things for the angle of suspicion.
I think it was Chomsky who said, or words to that effect, That YOUR government is up to much worse than you think.
…As we set out to recall, contextually of course, let us give the deserved attention to this right-wing thought leader (who, in contrast to Noam, strongly supports Israel), so as not to lose intellectual memory and this to remain for generations. (This is also a special congratulation to our unstoppable conservative and anti-mRNA-vax, Antonym.)
(at 3:08 is the revelation in question.. Much more moderate than Noam, he would just advise people to get their damn vaccine. Nice guy..
..I have no idea what Todd’s attitude is towards him, but Jordan is also a conservative intellectual, so Todd has the rare chance now, in front of all of us, to say what he thinks about him, and for example about his vaxx advice, which probably a certain number of people have listened to and are now no longer among us.)
Jordan Peterson, 2021: “Get The Damn Vaccine”
“Suspend judgement for 6 month. Nobody knows what to do…. Tortured by your conscious”?
Tell Mr. Peterson I knew exactly what it was and what to do from the first moment I heard about Measles, Ebola, Zika, and then the Corona vaxx bs.
what else he said four years ago:
I’m still a fan of Chomsky’s work – well most of it, you can’t expect him to get it right every time, what is he now 93, 94 something like that, I suppose he’s very susceptible to all manner of viruses now, but I take your point onboard.
But one would expect him to get it right on something as major as the Scamdemic, if he is supposed to be that smart.
He knew, of course he did. So many traitors to humanity got exposed when the light was shone on them during the Plandemic era. Now they are out in the open, at least for those who choose to remember.
When Chomsky was asked about vak-zine mandates it was question number 33. Yup…it would be.
Anyway, who gives a fuck what that old fossil thinks, not that he was thinking. Simply parroting his lines like a good boy begging for more shekels.
bull’s eye.
Well he seems to know…on his way out to history’s junkyard.
Life is much easier once you accept that “other people are allowed to be wrong”.
Of course this means you can be wrong as well.
What a relief, not yet another doom-and-gloom,Trump-bashing diatribe from ‘writers’ who seem to put all their energies into negativity. Of course, they will get what they put out. Enough, on to the subject at hand.
To those ‘normies’ (I like sheep so please leave then out of it), who have swallowed the mainstream propaganda because, let’s face it, they never do any research – you have been the problem. You’ve chosen to let the authorities, via television, from Westminster, in white coats or parading the streets in uniforms, call the shots (sorry!). We who ask questions are an anathema.
I think it’s the other way round. Out of love and concern, many of us have done our utmost to wake up the normies to what is actually going on in our world for their own good as well as ours. But when we’ve been dealing with brain-washing, we don’t stand much of a chance. We’ve been shunned, insulted and thoroughly vilified. Pardon??? Yes, some normies have woken up but the rest won’t until their noses are rubbed in the corruption and lies, if then.
It’s very sad that families have been rent asunder but, at least in the case of married couples, perhaps the fact they are disagreeing so vehemently is a sign they are fundamentally mis-matched.
It’s time to give up on the normies – let them create their own realities based, as usual, on fear. It is tragic but ….
As to love, how many people really know what the word means? Love absolutely means trust too. If we don’t trust, we certainly can’t love. Those of us who put our trust in the corrupted and, frankly, evil system are surrendering the most precious gift we have been given.
Jezza under that pyramid thingy:
https://x.com/DanielJHannan/status/1938629608011604274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5IqdXbjak
I always knew my family and friends were idiots. I seldom agreed with them on anything. But sometimes I pretended to to keep the peace. Most of the things I believe they would not even be able to comprehend. I have always had to keep most of what I think under my hat in my life.
Todd states the very biggest, hugest thing that troubles me the MOST! The fact that people I love do not even ask WHY I am believing what I believe. It is so very odd to me. I am old and have had a great long life and I just cannot recall anytime in my life when this happened…no interaction, no questions. A closed door. It troubles me not because they think differently from me, it troubles me that they don’t think enough of me to have a discussion.
Yeah, people are like this in general. For instance. I often come up with a little aphorism that goes against everything they hold dear. Here’s one: “There are no bad teachers. There are only bad students.” This of course outrages them, because they hate those horrible teachers who gave them Fs for being the dumbbells they are. But not one ever asked me what I mean, what I was talking about, why I would say something so frightfully different from what everybody takes for granted as set in stone. Including academics, who are supposed to be bright. Nope, they just start in arguing against me immediately.
I gave up on trusting people, now I just trust my cats want to go outside.
That would be their unquenchable appetite to murder innocent wildlife..
Except those are not as innocent wildlife as you assume, one lizard can mow down like 20 baby cannabis plants in a day, so in order to continue to quench my expensive thirst, I hired something that was trained to do the job, saw them take out many a snake too, just not you
But a box of shit in the kitchen, now that’s something we can all get behind.
Trust has been dismembered within families, social circles and local communities. A slow drip process that has been socially engineered to take place over decades. A society that is atomised is easier to control.
When people listen to self-proclaimed experts over their own family members or close friends and most importantly ignore or don’t even know how to listen to their own intuition then there is a serious problem. A calcified pineal gland may be the reason that so many have lost that intuitive connection.
Trust the Science (TM) or ‘experts say’ has replaced good old fashioned common sense. Outsourcing personal responsibility to ‘mummy and daddy’ government adds to the culture of dependency. During the Scamdemic people blindly trusted the science without realising that the science had shortcut the laboratory experimental phase and took the experiment into the wild.
They the people were the lab rats for a worldwide experiment. Barry Soweto even admitted it during a speech as he grinned. The price of trusting the wrong people can have unforseen and terrible consequences.
Will people make the same mistakes again? Undoubtedly…..but hopefully fewer will each time.
People say they love you, but people lie. They may say they are your friends, yet they act like enemies, wanting you hurt and dead. Whatever people say, there’s always a possibility of them lying. They may believe their own lies – that makes no difference.
Actions speak louder than words. Empty words by Americans on TV (and small talk) don’t mean a thing. ”Oh my God, I love that!” is their typical limited vocabulary.
Americans seem to love everything: football, hamburgers, Coca-Cola, American flag, cars, guns, celebrities, and the list goes on. Most of all Americans seem to love war, as that is what their beloved ”country” is always doing.
They also love God, but what are their actions?
5 This is what the Lord says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord,
whose confidence is in him.
(Jer. 17:5; Jer 17:7)
Yes, it is easy to hop on Americans. There are other nationalities, however, who are sacrosanct.
“That man is best who sees the truth himself. Good too is he who listens to wise counsel. But who is neither wise himself nor willing to ponder wisdom is not worth a straw.”
― Hesiod
Did your illustrious compatriot have any ideas and suggestions on what should be done with the last, low-rated group?
I’ve recently “red-pilled” my best friend. It took some doing over the years – not by bludgeoning him over the head with primary-source material, or the views of commentators, journalists and authors who themselves cite primary-source material, but by graduated discussion until he, a vaccine-injured man in his 50s, began engaging in discussion with those in adjacent circles wherein topics I have been raising for over 15 years now begin to knit into his reality and become evident.
My red-pilled friend is now faced with the same incredulity from his family and friends that i was confronted with when i first broached theses subjects with him. He is now an avid, discerning, researcher into topics falsely presented as conspiracy, looking for the kernel of truth, however small, or big, it may be.
I’m proud that I’ve helped my friend, but fear that I’ve corrupted those close relationships he maintains with his immediate family – his wife and daughter – who have demonstrated consternation (to put it mildly I am told) about his new-found views on the malicious governance to which we are subject.
I hope I’ve done right by him.
There’s an explanation – “by far the most important element of this little book is the philosopher’s division of humanity into two fundamental classes: those who are capable of learning through information, and those who are not.” – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2025/06/the-journey-begins-vox-popoli.html?m=0
“People are being taught not to trust love.” Disagree; most of us realise that others may be wrong, regardless of how close we are to them. In fact, teaching people to believe those they love and trust must be right sounds pretty crazy to me.
Todd won’t tell you, but – check them first to see if they are not lizards in sheepskins. : )