WATCH: The Met Office is Scared of Ray Sanders! – #SolutionsWatch
Who is Ray Sanders, and why is the UK Met Office scared of him? In the latest edition of James Corbett’s #SolutionsWatch, Ray Sanders demonstrates how to raise awareness about anti-scientific shenanigans in government agencies and shows what ordinary people can do to bring about real change.
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I’m overawed with the “Integrity, Transparency & Swiftness” that the IPCC has moved to set in stone A DEFINITIVE WORLD STANDARD FOR REPRESENTING COLOUR VS TEMP ACROSS THE IPCC PUBLICATIONS, WORLD NEWS AGENCY AND ALL CLIMATE NGOs etc.
It’s almost as if….
Watts Up With That is a Limited Hangout
They could (and probably should) simply restrict the scope of the site to climate and energy. Watts, however, seems to want to steer people away from “conspiracy theories”. In doing so, they use exactly the same anti-debate tactics as the pushers of the climate scam. To me, this suggests that it’s probably an intelligence operation.
A couple of points re Watts’s article:
1) The claim regarding molten steel is based on it being witnessed – both in its molten state and its after-effects. Hence, the argument as to the “need” to melt the steel is a strawman.
2) Even NIST explicitly rejected the “pancake collapse theory” – this being the theory implied by Watts’s garbled description of a “domino collapse”. The obvious flaws in the pancake theory is that (a) it doesn’t explain how the columns below the fire zone collapsed; and (b) there was no stack of pancaked floors at ground level. There are also flaws regarding the rate of collapse, but this requires some knowledge of basic physics.
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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/05/11/911-truth
Categories: Local_issues, Politics, Ridiculae
911 Truth
May 11, 2007
Anthony Watts
The Chico News and Review has gotten quite a number of letters on their 911 Truth article which gave a platform to the people whom prefer to believe that a gigantic government conspiracy was the reason behind the 911 WTC collapse, and that the towers were brought down with explosives, rather than by fire.
I wrote a short blog essay on the subject, and a letter to the editor, pointing out that the recent collapse of the I580-880 freeway interchange had a lot of similarities, illustrating that fire can indeed take town steel and concrete structures.
Predictably, the 911Truthers lobbed a couple of ticked off letters back at me, even going so far as to say I’m “spreading distortions”.
While I don’t intend to argue their points, since you can’t usually come out winning when you argue with people whom believe conspiracy theories, I will present another view.
For those of you that prefer rational science and engineering, I present this item, a paper published in 2003 by The Journal of The Minerals, Metals & Materials Society, presents a balanced view that shows that the collapse didn’t need steel melting temperatures to occur. It was written by Thomas W. Eagar, the Thomas Lord Professor of Materials Engineering and Engineering Systems, and Christopher Musso, graduate research student, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
You can read the report in its entirety here: http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
Or just skip to this conclusion:
While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.
There’s a maxim called Occam’s Razor; “All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one.” In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and hypothetical entities tends to be correct. Conspiracy theories require many more assumptions, some unprovable, than a fire and materials failure does.
NOTE: Comments have been closed to prevent overrun by 911 Truthers, whom seem as irrational as ever and intent on proving their twisted logic
Pancake?
Photos of WTC 1 or 2 show the top falling off to one side prior to ‘collapse’
The scary amber warnings is done by text message with England?
Is this true?
Holy Shit! Some outfit out there needs a decapitation strike.
Wait till thanksgiving when all the turkeys line up after the big harvest
Great presentation by James and Ray. I propose that any mainstream narrative should be subjected to the kind of scrutiny that Ray did here, and I bet you, it will come up wanting. This applies to Covid Narrative, the narrative of objectivity of medicine and science, as well as our commonly understood narratives of history.
It seem they love to beat dead horses for as many decades if not centuries as possible:
James Hansen: .
See? The Finance banks and their Liberal handler’s real problem is that fossil fuel is cheap.
They want expensive fuel to suck out from society!
It maybe a shock to you.
Hardly anyone in normal pays attention to the news casters within England as most of the time they get it wrong and more importantly people ordinary people are to busy and need to get to A to Z.
The last person was Michael fish in 2004 who needed promotion on territory TV which had 4 channels to try and get people to pay any attention.
Even the mudak sky manly suppose sexy ladies weather whores did not get that much views (only the morning pervs would bother checking out the weather casters to see the casters see through blouse)
This BBC cyber psychosis is an alt media thing.
You’ve got to much times on your hands on the internet getting all tied up in knots getting your knickers in a twist over red orange colours on a fake TV screen.
Leaves on the line was happening in the 40’s 50′ 60’s…
Everyone likes to regard themselves as that person to whom everyone else is paying undivided attention to (blouse or not) when they actually aren’t. Their minds being completely elsewhere.
And all of those events of the 40s, 50s, 60s being completely ignored? What a scandal! How could they!! What a bunch of Philistines/Palestinians to do so!!!?
And yet of course those super-significant events of such times? We all know really but might need the odd reminder…
Valhalla’s Vogue: The Saga of Warrior Gals
When legends echo through Viking halls,
“Women were warriors!”—an expert calls.
Jerkson and Amanda, credentials displayed,
Say axes and helmets are how women played.
A grave full of steel? Must be her gear—
She surely swung swords for fifteen a year!
Ignore all the facts, discard history’s tone,
‘Cause girl power’s best when it’s chiseled in stone.
Amanda, whose bust is a myth of its own,
Grew vikingly mighty, yet never foam-grown.
Though lifting an axe might prompt her collapse,
In academic circles, she labeled the maps!
“She traveled a lot—she’s a fighter, that’s that!”
Never mind marriage, or hearth, or her cat.
In sagas, the men get a raw Viking deal—
Now epic shieldmaidens command every keel.
To doubt makes you backward, a bore or a brute,
So join the enlightenment, don feminist loot!
Build statues for Merkel, for wisdom divine,
And rewrite the Sagas—let no man opine!
A tribe run by shieldmaidens, fierce and adored,
Would triumph with wit… while Norse men got bored.
So raise up your tankards and toast to the drums:
The West loves a myth when the feminism comes!
We all love feminism and feminists and why not. And what a wonderful myth to grab hold of!
The noble female warrior outdoing men in all sports, as does Lara Croft in fighting men and disposing of all such worthless types as animals. It makes a great video game (most created by men paradoxically).
And in the modern era the woman can indeed fly a drone arguably better than a man, so who’s to say what might transpire in the future. Who needs nurturing skills or cooking, sewing skills anyway when a woman has warfare to aspire to?
And yes of course there is undeniably less brute force required for modern warfare anywat (though some outdated schools of thought still suggest that testosterone still plays a role.
Needless to say, with UK women on the verge of winning the Euros whilst their counterparts, aka ‘men’, having repeatedly failed to do so since the dawn of time, might such types have something residual to teach after all. Italy awaits for the next lesson in female competitiveness which does seem to differ from the competitiveness of males…
Ancient Roman historians, like Tacitus, for instance, all insist that the Teutonic and Gaulic tribeswomen fought alongside their men. They were that primitive. Sorry, but that’s what the only documenters we have say.
Tacitus would likely have had very little to say about Teutonic types. In part because such characters only came on the scene a good few centuries later. Coincident with the formation of Germany I believe.
But sure, a woman fighting alongside their proverbial man is no doubt a timeless theme. And who’s to question their input in such pre-drone days? A strategically dropped stone or a bash on the head with a club while two othewise brutish men slog it out. No doubt pivotal on many occasion.
Xena warrior princess. What’s not to enjoy in such a spectacle?
Or England’s women playing Germany or Spain in the Euro’s final. Just as thrilling if not more so. Given that they might actually have a chance of winning unlike their male counterparts.
Another one of the cast of 2020-22 bites the dust:
https://dumptheguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/jul/18/stephen-colbert-late-show-ending-trump
Remember the dancing syringes?
And the line at the taco stands waiting to get in
I don’t understand. He was obedient. Where did he go wrong?
The Met Office!!
The I dont watch TV crowd now mind controlled by the ‘be scared of BBC or met office’.
who gives a fuck.
“surely there are more pressing issues” at hand rather then shill woke right talking points.
Is this really alternative.
It is alternative. Alternative in any well-respected traditional sense. Mainstream alternative if you prefer.
Anyway who’d want to be outside of mainstream alternativity? Wouldn’t that make you a complete outsider. A reject from all that is profitable. Someone with thoughts that simply don’t compute?
Given that any alternative to alternativity would always be mainstream (as ~p always implies q or does it), such thoughts would essentially make such a person a persona non grata.
And if, as is generally presupposed, we all just want to be welcome in some place or other (which is a basic human need), might we not do so best amidst like-minded non-conformists, who think exactly as we do ourselves?
Corbett (@25:00): If, if, if, if . . . etc
Except that there isn’t this mass of engaged people; i.e. whereas last-night’s VAR error may be debated with people in your everyday life, the chances of discussing temperature record manipulation is effectively zero. Conclusion: the controllers have the world of “ordinary people” completely sewn up.
A corollary is that whereas Ray Sanders may well be an “ordinary person” (though a highly exceptional one), the outlets doing the main promotion (e.g. The Daily Sceptic) are likely to be part of intelligence operations. Without that kind of support, the work of Sanders and similar will get nowhere.
With regard to the climate scam, the “soft underbelly infrastructure” is (was) the third-rate academics employed to create a veneer of scienciness. The strategy is to get them to engage in email exchanges in which they effectively confess the fraud – “hide the decline” etc – and then “hack” the emails. However, it requires an intelligence operation to coordinate all of this such that it happens just prior to the zenith of summits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy
The Climatic Research Unit email controversy (also known as “Climategate”)[2][3] began in November 2009 with the hacking of a server at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) by an external attacker,[4][5] copying thousands of emails and computer files (the Climatic Research Unit documents) to various internet locations several weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change.
The story was first broken by climate change denialists,[6][7] who argued that the emails showed that global warming was a scientific conspiracy and that scientists manipulated climate data and attempted to suppress critics.[8][9] The CRU rejected this, saying that the emails had been taken out of context.[10][11] FactCheck.org reported that climate change deniers misrepresented the contents of the emails.[12] Columnist James Delingpole popularised the term “Climategate” to describe the controversy.[13]
Except “climategate” obviously wasn’t a hack, it was an insider leak, or anonymous whistle blower if you prefer. It showed the climate models code was a shitshow, not complying with any software industry standard, full of bugs and fudge factors. It showed the whole scam, “the cause” was manufactured from whole cloth by a clique of activist “scientists”.
And wikipedia? using “factcheck” as a source? LOL you can do better than that
“misrepresented the contents” ? [of the emails]
Try reading some of the contents, in context…
Climategate Turns 15!
I didn’t use it as a “source”; rather, I used it as a summary – the main point being the timing of the hack release to precede the COP summit.
Re:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/11/27/climategate-turns-15/
Using a “9/11 truth” denial site as a source? LOL !!!
And your evidence for this “obvious insider leak” is what exactly?
BTW: I assume the intelligence op used an IT contractor with access to the server. That’s how I would have done it.
Want to have a laugh? Hear Edmund de Rothschild in 1987 promoting to convert “bad” CO2 into dry ice to keep the North and South poles alive.
Yep! <a href=”https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/how-edmund-de-rothschild-managed-to-let-179-governments-pay-him-for-grasping-up-to-30-of-the-earth/”> How Edmund de Rothschild Managed to Let 179 Governments Pay Him for Grasping Up to 30% of the Earth</a>
Daily first post going into pre-mod.
Ring hands
7 rings above
time seems to be
Wall, all the time
Actually exist
Why, hi
Falutin
Closed
Very strange
tomorrow or yesterday
Nobody has seen the curve.
‘CurveBall’ Bubble, Birdheart ? Saw that coming,
From 1997 onwards, all Evidence existed & legally incorporated,
Inc.BlackRockers’ Aladdin :- but it was Black in 1987 that the power of
Bum Data Derivatively Managed.Massaged , buy ENRON Weather Forecast.ed on The Chicago Mercantile Exchange, way to go, GMO Monsanto, problem? Drought.
Reaction? Desperation. Solution? Drought Resistant Seed…
SEC see enquiry into Weather Fore-Casted…market wise.
Look out Grannies !! The government’s gonna give the kids the vote,
and the kids are gonna have their revenge !!**
First they’ll vote you be shipped off to the Old Folks Home – outa sight
outa mind – so they can have your home. Then they’ll vote for you to
be put down, because you’re non- productive, and are consuming
scarce resources. And, dont forget, you did nothing to stop Global
Warming, or The Forever Wars…
Bye Bye Granny, Goodbye !! (sample election slogan)…
** You shoulda given them more than 50p for each of the odd jobs
you asked them to do for you, and you shouldna told their mums
“eat yer greens” was good for them !!
Dodgy weather data records would be a godsend to developers
who want to build houses on river flats… They’d make it so easy
to refute the likelihood of ‘Once In A Century Floods’ affecting
housing build in such places…
1977: The weather is great. People are flocking to the coast to enjoy the heatwave. Enjoy it while it lasts.
2025: The country is boiling. Stay at home alert. 1 man known to have died from heat exposure. (Although he had multiple health issues, let’s not mention those).
1977 Temperatures based on averages within a county.
2025 Temperatures based on a tarmac runway whilst a military plane is taking off.
Anyone smell a rat?
Keep the bombs dropping that will help cool the planet….
Scorchio!
They could only find one – times must be tough.
They must yearn for the halcyon days of Covid-1984 when it was easy to invent thousands, or was it millions dying OF the bogeyman of the day rather than WITH it. Courtesy of the good ol’ PCR test. Fell off a ladder? “Died of Covid”. Crashed a motorbike into a lamp post? “Died of Covid”. Dosed up with Midazolam? “Died of Covid”.
In his opening statement he mentions freemasons
could someone please find me a video of this guy discussing the freemasons.
Closed. http://www.midnightfreemasons.org/2021/01/welcome-randy-sanders.html .