Quick Take…Are Digital IDs coming piecemeal?
Kit Knightly
I’m starting to think a full-scale, nationwide compulsory digital ID won’t ever be a thing. Not officially, anyway. Not for quite a while.
It’s a vibe I feel coming off the news that gels more with the current methodology – the indirect authoritarianism of the easier path. Piecemeal tyranny washed in on waves of convenience.
According to a 2023 report (which resurfaced last week for some reason), in the near future, British citizens will likely need electronic “Carbon Passports” to travel. These will be digital documents that track and limit your travel based on carbon emissions.
During Covid, digital “vaccine passes” were needed to differentiate those who had been vaccinated from those who had not. If and when another “pandemic” rolls around, they will be used again.
From the end of this year, British driver’s licenses will be digital and accessed through the government’s wallet app. In the future, your road tax will be paid via GPS tracking of your car, linked to your driver’s license.
Late last year, the government began replacing previous immigration documents with “eVisas”, a process which is due to complete before the end of 2025.
The Online Safety Act has brought in widespread age verification online. Wouldn’t that be so much easier if we had a government app, like the one being trialled in the EU, which verifies your age “whilst keeping all other personal information private”?
In short, even before we officially have the infamous Digital ID, every interaction with the state is being digitised via an app on your phone, which you likely carry around with you all day, every day.
It must be taken entirely on trust that the app which tracks your international travel, the app which tracks your car, the app which tracks your taxes, the app which tracks your immigration status, the app which tracks your health records and the app which verifies your age are all entirely separate.
Do you truly believe they are?
The fact of the matter is that, in one form or another, every proposed usage of digital ID scheme either already exists or will do so in the near future.
The only reason to formally unify it into a single mandatory ID badge would be normalisation, a watermark transformation of the mental and emotional relationship between citizen and state.
I’m beginning to think we will have digital ID – brought in a little at time – for years before anyone in power decides to call it by its true name
And they won’t do that until they’re asked.
Starmer’s proposed national ID scheme may be theatrically scrapped, a development which could be sold as a massive win for human rights even while the digital ID infrastructure remains.
In the intervening years, the performatively “separate” apps and trackers and forms will be plagued by much-publicised “inefficiencies”, which columnists will complain “cost the taxpayer millions in the name of mythical privacy”. Campaigns will call for “a more unified digital system” which “boosts interdepartmental communication” in the name of “increasing efficiency and cutting administration costs”.
…And then they’ll pull back the curtain, and announce the “streamlined” digital identity service, which will have existed for years but never been acknowledged.
But maybe I’m wrong. It could be the introduced tomorrow.
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Megabrain Whitney W expects an incident to force this:
https://rumble.com/v419f4t-whitney-webb-how-a-cyberattack-could-help-manufacture-consent-for-digital-i.html
These digital IDs and electronic banking would be useless to the authorities in many crisis scenarios. “Papers, please!” “Erm, I couldn’t power my phone or laptop!” That’s why gold keeps its value. The propaganda everywhere about AI and phones is just to hide the rulers’ basic powerlessness.
The future may be seen in a series of videos on youTube by “Little Chinese Everywhere” about “Unseen China”. In them a young Chinese woman travels around parts of China that Wastern tourists don’t go to. They’re interesting in of themselves because they chronicle everyday life, including local produce, markets, cafes, hotels, all the usual stuff. The bit that’s relevant to this article, though, is that like most Chinese she doesn’t seem to use cash. Whenever there’s a transaction, be it the purchase of some pork bones in a small shop or a coffee at a roadside stall (in the middle of Nowhere, Mongolia….) the transaction is a scan of a QR code on her phone. Everyone’s doing it as well — I’ve seen cash changing hands once or twice but its very much the exception.
That’s the digital infrastructure for you. I’ve experienced something similar in New Zealand where I felt very much the tourist as I had money, credit cards and so on but the locals used their phone (or watch).
Being an outcast, only because you dont like the TV but the physical world. Thanks for info.
More: EU Chat Control Plan Gains Support, Threatens Encryption
Digital IDs are an old shoe here. If you want an idea how online ID’s work, just have a look how matters are dealt with in Finland. Governmental communication (tax-, law-, social matters …) will be shifted almost completely to electronic format, by 2026. https://www.suomi.fi/instructions-and-support/messages/what-is-suomifi-messages
Ofc the reason stated is saving millions of tax tokens abolishing paper post (Expect big tax cuts (Not)) and impact of evil papermail on environment etc.. Basically everything in Finland is managed for quite some time online, using mainly social security number in combination with electronic identification services. Right now its still possible to get official communication via paper mail (Which is often charged extra for private services) and one can opt out when the “service” is enforced 2026, but the crooked thing is the “service” will be automatically activated when one uses online identifiers for official matters. So if one don’t want to use complete electronic communication, you have to visit the offices in person and they can be multiple hundred kilometers away, depending where you live. (So much about saving environment)
At the end one can choose between a day trip to the office or dealing with the matter in minutes.
Unfortunately I think its quite clear what most people will choose. 🙁
The Digital ID Is the Last Step toward Full Enslavement. Peter Koenig and Mike Yeadon
It is only a few who can refuse it. Most will be forced into it by necessity, whether they like it or not. Making any respect for Legal Law irrelevant.
Another enslavement issue: Gaza is being imposed genocide, starved, murdered, because all the humanitarian organisations and the western mercenaries who should protect it, do profit from every single atrocity.
This was the UN’s Special Investigator’s conclusion in her report. She received death treats and sanctions from USA, UK, Tel Aviv, EU, after the report was issued……………. BECAUSE THEIR PROFIT WAS THREATENED.
I am close to be a Red Commie after that.
Good comment, except for that last sentence. Under Communism there were the haves (Bureaucrats) and the have-nots, too – the rest of the people. The former had their private duchas and other privileges. The rest of the people often didn’t even have toothpaste, let alone oranges.
You are right. Thats why I wrote ‘almost’. You know the choice between pest or cholera.
erhmm, not true- we did have toothpaste….
Many were using salt: https://nauvoo100.fandom.com/wiki/History_of_Toothpaste_in_Soviet_Union
Phew! I was beginning to get worried! Now I can just lie back in this nice warm water and fritter the time away. Ribbit…
One could selfishly see these operations as an infringement on personal privacy, or, one could be of the opinion that such technological intrusiveness is a most provident boon for those suffering from dementia and Alzheimers and the such like… which is in all probability all of us towards the autumn of our years.
Or if not yet in the grip of these neurological deviations one can be forearmed as to how these conditions feel in advance so when mindlessness does occur no-one will feel the shock of grief.
It must be taken entirely on trust that the app which tracks your international travel, the app which tracks your car, the app which tracks your taxes, the app which tracks your immigration status, the app which tracks your health records and the app which verifies your age are all entirely separate.
Do you truly believe they are?
Sure! 😃
Short message to smart phone transporters who also follow Off-G
Wake up and evict that spy from your pocket.
The two (yes two) CPUs it contains are closely linked electronically. One runs all your apps (ie the PC-like activity of the device) – this is the one you may affect if you “de-google” your phone; the other interacts with the phone network, thus chattering with the cell tower it’s logged into and accepting commands from it. There is no technical reason for having two processors – it’s to maintain a black box area.
Ever noticed that the GPS or data chip you switched off is actually on again? Do you really think “your” device cannot be (totally) controlled from the cell tower?
Phones are a useful tool to achieve various things. They save time and consume time. Having documents, money, things in one easy accessable place is attractive. But they come with a price, that most are prepared to pay. That price is consumerism.
They want our data in every which way. Someone creates an app they want to sell it. We have had numbers and IDs for a long time now and we produce them where we are comfortable or we want something. Banks, travel, job. The method of ID is changing, it will come, someone somewhere is being paid to work on it. Or someone wants the big bucks to make the break through. That’s how it works ..
Government will implement what they think will make them or the country look good and maybe make them a buck on the side, or their mate or family. That is also how it works.
Resistance is useless. It marches on.
The next generations won’t think about It. It will just be cool or normal. People who moan or talk about old ways will be old or old fashioned. That’s Is also how it goes.
There is an element of control, but there always is. There is more an element of making money right now out of the biggest, hand held, consumer tool since … Ever…
Enjoy the ride..
Since we are now being incrementally cornered, there should be a public call for a Technology Privacy Protection Act, or something to that effect, voted on by the public to place limits on technology deployment. The will and consent, or rejection and control, of technology uses. This could be a first step in affecting Direct Democracy decision making as a method for the public to have voice and authority to self govern and protect ourselves from avaricious business and government elite’s unvetted schemes we do not want. And possible things we do want that they don’t. Imho.
As someone who doesn’t have a smartphone (and doesn’t want one), I wonder at what point I will effectively be forced to get one in order to be able to conduct my daily business — as the article says, there’s now an “app” for just about every activity, and it is assumed that one has a smartphone on which to run these apps. I’ve lost count of the times that I’ve been told to “download the app” or “scan the QR code”, and, being unable to do so, have had a ridiculous rigmarole to accomplish whatever it was that I was trying to do. …Mundane things which, in the days before smartphones, were quite straightforward.
I think that is the government’s utopia: a nation of moronic, smartphone-addicted zombies, all wrapped up in their personal tracking-device, and incapable of functioning without it. …A world of smart tech and dumb people; of artificial intelligence and natural stupidity.
I will never get a smart phone. I will walk out wherever one is required. I am retired so I can be inconvenienced. If needing one to be employed, i’d use it at work, for work only. We must assert our rights to use technologies we consent to. Basic human right.
To your first wondering, I already see their strategy. They will let you have your trouble and resolve it when the zombies are 70% and the risk is 30% skating down to 10%.
The Milgram tests says people in uniform conform up to 90%, ordinary people only 65-70%.
When they reach the 90% conformity rate notwithstanding any time it will take, they will just treat us, the last 10%, as any unpleasant weird minority they can and will piss on.
As I skimmed the comments, I resisted adding my usual anecdotal counterpoint to the argument that We the People can successfully resist digital totalitarianism by sheer determination and force of will. But now I post it as a corroborating opinion.
Parenthetically, this stance is self-fulfilling or self-confirming. So the following can always be rebutted by bumptiously insisting that the bottom line is that one can, should, and must simply refuse to capitulate, no matter the cost and inconvenience!
A summary of my mobile phone history: I reluctantly acquired a “cellphone” about 20 years ago at my siblings’ request ago, when my mother’s health was failing and it was helpful to be reachable at all times.
I thought of it as a backup/emergency phone. I was not, and am not, socially active enough to feel the need to arrange my life around my mobile phone– as my iPhone-addicted relatives do.
Later, I upgraded to an off-brand smartphone because it was easier to text; I still only use(d) the phone rarely, e.g. to occasionally coordinate travel status with siblings. I don’t carry it around; it stays at home, and I don’t even turn it on unless compelled by circumstances.
But I foolishly, or stupidly, made the mistake of furnishing my mobile number to healthcare providers, my bank, merchants, etc.– because they asked, or demanded. I always was careful to list my “landline”, as we now call traditional phone service, as my primary and preferred contact number.
And now to my point: I noticed that gradually, all of the abovementioned commercial or professional venues unilaterally abandoned my landline number and substituted my mobile number. So on the rare occasions when I do turn it on, I see unsolicited voicemails.
I used to contact the callers to complain about the unauthorized switch; they would invariably deny purposely making the switch, and blame some “glitch”. They never explained why they didn’t at least try my landline if their mobile voicemails weren’t acknowledged– and somehow, still use the mobile number. Those darn glitches!
I also notice that, increasingly, commerce now simply presumes that I not only rely on a mobile phone, but am enthusiastic about the apps and all of the other mobile whistles and bells. I also notice that when sites give an e-mail option for two-factor authentication, more often than not the attempted e-mail option just doesn’t work.
More glitches, I suppose. 🤔
The strategy is obviously to compel universal smartphone use by making it a fait accompli.
It’s well and good to insist that businesses are obliged to accommodate anti-mobile dissenters and heretics, but that becomes a war of attrition.
Also, without doubling the length of this post with a full reminiscence, I worked for a state agency that switched from in-person to telephone service, and then Internet service.
Management always began by assuring users that if they didn’t have the devices or phone service to use the new procedures, they would be accommodated. Invariably, before too long the agency took a harder line; the promised “workarounds” were discouraged, persons using them suffered undue delays and hassles, and ultimately the workarounds were silently eliminated.
So it’s a “death by a thousand cuts”, aka “creep” strategy. Holdouts and dissenters are forced to work harder and harder to be accomodated. It leads to the status quo you describe. 🤬
How do you get rid of ALL this authoriarianism and control freakery? ALL major political parties support this. The fact that they do indicates that there is public support for this, at least among the classes of voters that count.
Today the UK is ruled by a party which drew 33.7% of the vote.
Kill your “smart” phone and the machine goes haywire. Freedom is only for those that can handle it. The rest, the vast bleating mindless and gutless herd of sheeple will rather die than be released from the $atanic matrix. The naked ape is not only naked but also quite dumb.
Onward to the total co££ap$€ of their worthless fiat filth into the chaos that NOBODY will control.
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Did anyone here mentioned gold? Where is this gold now? Aurum (shining dawn).
AU shorthand for “alternate universe.” Noble metal 197. https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-coins/one-ounce-gold-coins/2024-spanish-imperial-eagle-1oz-gold-coin/ .
Your IPs are already your digital ID
Depends if it is static or dynamic. Most are the later.
Remember the £100 covid giveaways. In order to get this payment card you got a digital ID ..couple years ago during an election I wanted a postal vote here in Belfast I could only have got one using that original digital ID
Exactly. You nailed it. And to be honest – I’ve been saying this for a long time now – it’s pretty obvious. For psychological reasons. If you proceed too fast, if you “hammer” people too hard, they could become very skeptical and ask “the right questions”. You would draw too much attention. So what do you do? You use the good old “salami tactics”.
That’s what they’re doing with the digital ID’s, that’s what they’re doing with their “SDGs” (Sustainable Development Goals) and, by the way, that’s what the technocratic trojan horse Donald Trump and his technocratic ilk are doing with the “tariffs” and “trade wars”. How so? These measures are meant to destabilize, or, if you will, “volatilize” the “analogue” economy for the long-planned transition into the “digital” one, meaning deindustrialization/”Build Back Better”/”Limits of Growth” (take your pick) and replacing it with the “Industry 4.0” aka Fourth Industrial Revolution.
I don’t think it’s purely accidental that almost at the same time when trojan Don implemented his “punishing tariffs”, the Mainstream Media aka Mass Lobotomedia aka Matrix Media published news about the “record high” value of Bitcoin. A german newspaper even recommended it as a comparatively “safe haven” to invest in, because the “analogue” economy becomes more and more unsafe and is in turmoil …
Unfortunately, Bitcoin is not a real alternative anymore (if it truly ever was …), but has already been captured by the ruling financial/economic/technocratic elite, so there you go …
The US is speedily implementing its Government by AI while distracting people with Epstein, Middle East, Ukraine, etc. etc. They want to get digital control in place quickly before the masses realise what is happening – ie before revolutions arise.
courtenayturner.substack.com/p/the-digital-leviathan-goes-live
Seems a good bet that it will happen in increments.
But, frankly, whether it happens in increments or all at once, I really don’t think most of the population care.
From what I observe here in the USA, most people, especially under the age of 40, do everything on their phone. Everything. Banking, shopping, learning, communicating, reading, writing, – transactions of every form. No one buys a “ticket” anymore – you do it all on the phone. Qcodes and apps. It’s the norm.
I do not think the total encroachment of the government, when it comes to all digital all the time, is going to effect most people. In fact, I’ll be surprised if they even know.
I’m not writing that derogatorily. It’s just the way things are now. People under 40 grew up on a phone. Grew up on social media. Grew up being “on” 24/7. This is their world. They have no conception of privacey, and certainly no conception of boundaries.
And when you throw in the convenience, who can resist.
Yes. Let us admit it, better sooner than later, we are beaten.
Like Sitting Bull and the other natives and their “right and true culture” were swept away over a few decades.
It doesnt matter that we are right that the 3-dimension is a more true place to be than the 2-dimensional TV.
Piecemeal digital IDs? The New Zealand government has just announced that they plan to remove petrol tax and replace it with universal road user charges by 2027. How will this work? Why, by every vehicle being electronically monitored, and payment being made via a phone app. For your convenience, of course.
…and easier. It is MUCH easier. ‘For your convenience and it’s much easier this way’.
My beloved old car has nothing that beeps.. You wind up its windows with a handle – remember them? I will continue to love and drive it until the globos try to ban petrol driven cars in favour of those spies on wheels, electric vehicles. However, here in Australia it is likely that one’s driver’s licence will be electronic, digital and trackable. Damn! I might ‘forget’ to take it with me, but no doubt, in time, that will also be a punishable offence.
Already here. Mine expired and I received a digital one by letter without asking. My old was outdated and the new was submitted. Same offence bills if you forget it.
However, I try to not be obstructive just for principle reasons and the little man’s revenge. We all have a share in getting around the smut we all are in.
LOL yes I remember the handles. Loved them too.
Off topic but I rarely bother with the TV news so when I do, it’s like running into some weird satirical alternate universe. Some Swedish company is pioneering “green steel prosecution” or something and it’s exciting because it means cutting the biosulphate whangeroo content of the atmosphere and slowing down globular churning. Meanwhile there’s a stramash over cutting billions from vaccine research and making us vulnerable to the next planned enema.
According to Guardian on-line, Israel has been listening in on all mobile phone traffic in Gaza and storing it on Microsoft’s Azure stratocumulus. Is it possible that the wonderful philanthropist Bill Gates feels some sense of shame for IBM’s technical assistance to a previous genocidal regime?
Hmm, there are some apparent “wins” being thrown to Trumpsters at the moment:
https://news.sky.com/story/bill-and-hillary-clinton-subpoenaed-in-jeffrey-epstein-probe-13407407
Of course subpoenas remain a long way from imprisonment….
…and truth.
More distracting drivel I would say.
Either my comments, thumbs up or down, on identity, are being deliberately distorted or the people using this site are as thick as shite.
There seems to have been a recent influx of morons
I think we’ll see more calls for a “Digital Bill of Rights” which is really just manufacturing consent for digital slavery.
Thing is, they can’t force people to buy a smartphone.
When my bank went digital, it took them almost 3 months to change their system to accomodate non mobile phone customers, after I sent them an actual physical letter.
When the tax return system went digital, it took me a few hrs to get through to someone who tried to tell me I had to buy commercial software to submit a tax return, nope not doing that, they sent me a paper return eventually (resulting in late filling fee) this after they had repeatedly told me they had been phased out. (and 2 yrs later I’m still waiting for a decision on my appeal for the late filling fee, even though they still send demands with interest on it).
I’ll not be buying one for a driving licence, medical appoinment, or any other gov scheme, they will have to accomodate another way.
I don’t use social media, if any website wants digital ID I won’t be using it, if retailers stop using cash I don’t use them either. I only take cash as for my business too.
You can refuse all this nonsense, just tell them you don’t own one (even if you do).
I will not be assimilated, even if it’s inconvinient.
Same here. You are not alone.
A digital identity would be in the format MR JOE BLOGGS. An all-caps titled fiction to which the crown is trustee and you are a legal person fiction. (Dead entity)
Copy/extract Birth certs Joe BLOGGS
Passport MR JOE BLOGGS
Driving Licence MR JOE BLOGGS
Title deeds JOE BLOGGS
Bank act MR JOE BLOGGS
Land deeds JOE BLOGGS
Company directorship BLOGG Joe
Police court and legal documents, Sir/Madam, You, Mr Joe Bloggs, MR JOE BLOGGS, JOE BLOGGS, Joe Bloggs, and all other formats but never Joe Bloggs
Your digital identity will be your confirmation that you accept your corporate legal fiction as being you and that you take responsibility for all the rules and taxes linked to that corporation.
In the land of realisation, you are Joe Bloggs in that name format only and only take representation of your fiction as and when you see fit. I.E., you use your passport to travel, representing your fiction only but never being responsible as the crown as trustee is the responsible entity.
When you are asked to fill in boxed documents, do not use black ink and block capitals.
Remember you are Joe Bloggs in that format only, the fictional identity is bullshit fraud.
The Department of Work and Pension (DWP) within the United Kingdom has access
to all the accounts a person has.
This was a world first in digital ID.
The utility companies within the U.K cross share the data about your “disabilities” ”vulnerabilities” to make sure you getting the correct service.
I.e, If there is a amber warning or power cuts your on records to have a call or text warning and if a power cut they will come to your house first (so they say).
You cannot honestly think that RFK jr data base on autism is about vaccine injuries.
The first people during covid to get the alarms, texts, calls, for vaccine testing and being told to self isolated was from people was on that list.
The first people during covid to get the DNR ( DNR, in a medical context, stands for Do Not Resuscitate) placed on there records was from that list.
That list got bigger when they refunded people the council tax and also 66£ per month towards the gas electric bill.
That list now is anyone who gets a ”diabetes tests”, ”cervical smear”,”monogram test” ”prostate tests” invitation, like the above If you do not keep your records up to date or response to the testing letters (now emails and texts) to make sure your getting the correct help.
They will and can take your of the list. (no-shows) “Did Not Attend” (DNA) is put on your records.
The AI system being built which banks have been using for decades to loan you money cross references (credit score) all the data points about you with all the different companies your on to check your value and like covid everyone witnessed what they thoughts of the old (elderly) and the thoses deemed with .“disabilities”.
Your notice the elderly seem to die more
The minute the equity on the home runs out within a nursing home which pays for the stay in them places.
Its a really sick world.
Do not waste your time on alternate media billionaire looshe thieving boogie men, have a look on what they do the poor or elderly or spastics to see what will be happening to you next.
A ‘person’
In Black’s Law Dictionary, the term “person” typically refers to a legal entity recognized by law, including individuals, corporations, and other entities capable of holding rights and responsibilities. The definition may vary depending on the context in which it is used within the legal system.
A ‘person’ In Black’s Law Dictionary,
is called a monster.
I don’t use or own a SMART phone and suggest others should try to live without one. If more people did this then a lot of the proposed digital ID and control mechanisms would fall flat..
But you have a phone no?
Yes, one that has no internet. Just text messages and phone calls..
RFK cancels fudning of mRNA “vaccines” (they aren’t vaccines) research:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-halts-500-million-for-mrna-vaccine-research/
Welcome news as far as it goes but:
1) It’s happened just when the Trump coalition was badly fraying and they needed to throw supporters a bone or two.
2) Research based within corporations continues.
3) This is on-the-books funding – can anyone be confident there’s none off-the-books?
4) Is the plan that Americans use up all the stockpiles of old vaccines while everyone else gets the new ones? I don’t mean as in old/new = bad/good but as in they didn’t get rich by wasting a load of inventory.
5) “Let me be absolutely clear: HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them”.
Means nothing until the PREP act and the 1986 Pharm NO LIABILITY Act or repealed.
Then let them make all the products they want for people that think the products are safe and effective.
But when they turn out to be not safe and effective they will be sued. A lot.
Freedom to choose, freedom to sue.
All the non-vaxxers should get free of charge access to all the old vaccines stored in the Hospital’s basements. We are all in the same soup, therefore I support that!
If only it were “wants them”.
Do they record all multiple passports a person has?
Billionaires have collections of them, they are globalist ghosts.
If not the whole exercise is fake futility.
People need to stop using the fucking aps. Stop using the cell phones for every damn thing. It CAN be done. They cannot stop that. Like the author’s premise about compulsory IDs, I feel the same about the use of the cell phone (I still call them cell phones because I can’t keep the fuck up with it and don’t want to, actually, refuse to). They can piecemeal it, boiling frog it, but they cannot require all citizens to own and use a cell phone in order to live our lives. They CANNOT. That is fucking stupid, against all concepts of liberty and freedom. They can make it mighty difficult to gain access to everyday things, but they cannot make this mandatory. This IS something we could fight and win, and in the process perhaps make major headway towards fighting the technocratic control apparatus and rule by the rich in the name of liberty and freedom. Actually, outside of an outright revolution to throw off these governments and institute sane democracy, this might be the means to move towards that very goal.
But of course, I’m preaching to the choir here. Those of us that might agree with the above are few and far between. So, like about everything else the “state” and global corporations come up with, the vast, very vast, majority, way majority, of people will succumb to the siren song of the fucking cell phone and the eveel APs. As an elder who actually remembers life when the only phone around was hanging on a wall in the kitchen, I am absolutely amazed at the almost complete addiction to cell phones by almost everyone. It doesn’t have to be this way, but evidently it will.
Sadly, it doesn’t matter what you do.
The next generation is FULLY CAPTURED by their technomagic, as per the plan.
Couldn’t agree more. I guess it’s because I’m old (56) but I am completely mystified by the cult of the smartphone. Everywhere I go, I see people on the phone, looking at the phone or just holding it in their hand (God forbid it’s out of sight!). Now, it is just possible that you may be in a situation where you absolutely need to be available by phone but I doubt that is the case for 99.9% of the people exhibiting this behaviour. I saw an ad recently for the new Samsung phone claiming a deal where you could save “hundreds”. “Hundreds?? How much is the damn thing?”. Turns out the answer is £1800! Who the hell spends that much on a phone? What the hell does it do that phones a fraction of the price don’t do? It’s bizarre.
Thing is we know that smartphone addiction is a very real problem for a great many people along with numerous other issues. A sane society would make it easier for people to do without their phones for a while. Instead, we go in exactly the opposite direction and make it harder and harder for people to go about their everyday business without one. It’s like forcing alcoholics to carry a bottle of whisky with them wherever they go. Why on earth should the only way to use a car park be by downloading their app?!
We are creating a society of people with the attention spans of gnats, forever flitting this way and that in search of their next dopamine hit. Still, I guess that’s all part of the plan. You can get away with doing almost anything to that sort of society and hardly any of them will care and/or notice, as we saw all too clearly during the Covid scam.
@Campaigns will call for “a more unified digital system” which “boosts interdepartmental communication” in the name of “increasing efficiency and cutting administration costs”.
You are very close here, they say AI shall replace many inefficient administrative roles from here on out.
I guess you’ll have to be smarter than AI to keep your job.
‘Convenience’ is the sugar-coating They’re using…
“Why use Compulsion or Coercion when Convenience
makes Suckers of Everyone ?
Easier. Its easier to pluck up 30m high masts in your backyard, mark every little thing you have with a QR code, manufacturing QR reader tools and small machines will make everything easier, buy a SmartPhone 3G,4G,5G will make it even more easier, buying updated Apps is easier, buy an Apple McBook no.14 and upgrades is easier.
Why use the post office when you can write the letter easier with your fingertips. It is SO much easier. 😇 .
‘Softly, softly, catchee you monkeys.’
Cancer, heart disease, sexual impotency, forgetfulness etc etc, all come incrementally.
Insidious and inevitable, for every single human being.
Even the Top Turds 🙂
That short life span thinking is what will put you in the grave in less than 100 years.
Care to evidence the allegation that everybody gets cancer and heart disease?
If you’re over fifty you are a lab rat for the chemicalization of the human race.
Ingested, absorbed, imbibed and injected.
Watch the average lifespan drop ‘incrementally’ over the next twenty five years.
You could only know lifespan by tracking 100 people you have details of, from birth to death. Better start much older than you, or you might run out of time. I wouldn’t trust any gov statistics on health.
Done:
I see it as you. It could be introduced tomorrow but my feeling is too, that they will just take all the time it takes.
At least we can be sure that Digital ID will not be without trouble. I doubt any resistance will have any effect, but the “binary rigid system” that only exist inside a TV screen , can and will cause a lot of IT scandals, break downs, fraud and manipulation scandals, and sharp divisions in society.
Think about these eternal “upgradings” of your Smartphones, Computers, 3G-4G-5G-6G, Public App updates 1,2,3,4,5,6, m.m. Its a society for idiots.
These divisions and scandals will cause anger and stress in the society, why they will have to impose it in a slow way.
But if the whole East bloc could live with red Communism in 72 years. I am sure we could or will do the same error again on a global scale. https://youtu.be/Skv9GTLRzmo …..ohhh shit excuse me wrong music video…..hmmm too late. Everything is too late.
We all have the power and the freedom to not use cell/smartphones. Being an old-timer, I never got one and I’m just fine. I do have a laptop so am able to be connected to the cyber-world, but there is not real “need” for a smartphone. It’s all mostly just incessant noise that fills our minds with nonsense that distracts from just being alive here in this world. Our species would probably be healthier and happier without them. And it would deprive TPTB of their control device. IMHO.
You appear ignorant of the fact that unless you want to visit your bank branch and pay a surcharge for each manual transaction there, – in some/many? countries- you are forced to own a smartphone because of the 2FA, two factor authentication,
The bank sends a code to your smartphone which you then need to type into your laptop browser page.
No, not so.
To receive an SMS (text message) code from the bank for 2 factor authorisation all that is required is a basic dumb phone, no need for a smartphone.
Only if the bank is one that requires accessing said code through their app (there are a few of these, not many) then a smartphone is needed.
That is exactly what I do. Simply use a dumb phone to receive the code. If my bank ever decides that use of an app is the only way to do it, then that is the day I change bank.
The other banks will ask why you want to change bank. When they hear you they will ignore your request. Happened to me.
Its coordinated, as Reuter and AP coordinate all the bs news that comes out of your Television and Newspapers.
What? Where are you located? As far as I know, I am free to change my bank whenever I like without giving any reason if I so wish.
Exactly.
Banks are actively encouraging customers to switch current accounts all the time, including offering cash incentives. They are even obliged to seamlessly transfer all direct debits and standing orders as part of the switching service.
Beside, even if someone still wants to keep their actual current account, there is nothing to stop them opening other current accounts and/or savings account with whoever they like. It takes only minutes to do online or in a branch.
I tried to contact 2 other banks. They were suspicious and asked why I wanted to change bank. From one of them I was just ignored after 2-3 approaches both by email and by phone.
To change bank as you wish was in the old days. Maybe it is still old days where you guys are but I would assume this situation is coming to a neighbourhood near you. Why I mention it here.
Every transaction you make, every cash point you visit,every call you make to the bank any thing you say to the bank staff, every visit to the bank, the bank has the right to record that information.
even if your using a dummie phone or dummie email.
They still have a copy of that data and if you need to do a ”charge back” it can get used in why you are using different numbers or emails.
That is true enough but it has been this way for decades. My objection is with banks (or anyone else for that matter) insisting that I own and use a smartphone. I have absolutely no wish to be tethered to an electronic device wherever I go and whatever I am doing.
You appear ignorant of the fact the bank can only force you if you acquiesce.
The bank has to accomodate you if you don’t own a mobile phone. They tried to send me a 2FA code on my landline, but phone companies systems block them, the bank advised me to delete my landline number from their system as this was the only way their system could send me an email code instead for 2FA for online purchases, no need to visit a branch at all.
You gave in, and now you belive it’s the only way!
Email code? Look forward to the zero trust Internet login using a WEF digital ID
Not here in the US.
I do no banking on my phone or computer. I walk across the street and transact with a teller. Hardly ever use the ATM.
One visit the bank manager quite cheerily harped on about my getting “the app”, the very convenient “app”, Through all of my “thanks, no thanks” she cheerily chirped on.
Maybe it’s different in different places, but for now, no extra charge for transacting with a live person.
Europe. My local bank moved from my minor city.
First to a nearby larger city 40 km away. after a couple of years they moved again to an even larger city now 60 km away from my place.
This place is in the ‘green center’ of this larger city where diesel cars are not allowed to enter without a pollution bill from the Police.
After providing pleasant service in my local city and the nearby city, they became nasty in the big city.
Loans was refused renewed, fees of 10$ for personal consultation for paying a bill. Disorderly book keeping. Break downs in days of their systems.
Their ATM stole 200$ a couple of times why I gave up this service.
The management of their ATM system I discovered has been outsourced to a shadow company in Andorra. I got the money back but the legal responsibility of the machine was unclear.
In the long run this can off course not function. But these conditions are for people who do not jump onboard the Digital ID bs.
Whichever bank you’re with, it is clearly dogshit. Change it, or is it a case of the European country you’re in, that they’re all manure?
I can think of numerous European countries where that would not have happened, perhaps you’re somewhere in Eastern Europe or Greece. Even in Spain and Italy, as crap as customer service is, that seems unlikely.
They are ALL manure. The branch is rotten but my feeling is it is a deliberate change on higher level, accommodation to the near Digital Society.
Hear, hear, Wally!
Larry Fink said recently when all assets are tokenised and put on the Blockchain people will need a biometric ID to prove they own the assets
That’s how they will get mass adoption.
If people took 💉to go on a holiday they will happily hand their bio metrics over to claim their tokenised realestate
Every now and then we need to revel in a bit of good news to uplift the spirit:
Fake news from 2021. Bad joke. https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/wefs-klaus-schwab-has-not-been-arrested-idUSL1N2S71CT/ .
Maybe they’re just helping him to the dunny.
After all, he is full of shit.
Should a digital ID be enforced in my country, I’ll go with Dr Mike Yeadon’s strategy:
Defer, defer, defer.
“DIGITAL ID WILL BE THE LAST FREE DECISION YOU’LL EVER MAKE” – Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon?
ROFL
What is exactly in most people wallets purses handbags etc.? I f*cking D.
Self check out needs ID, to buy alcohol & cigs even if your 65
To rent you need I.D
To go on holiday you need ID.
To rent a car, boat, ski, holiday apartment you need ID,
twitter ID for blue tik.
to be able to sell on ebay and amazon and esty you need ID.
To claim society security you need ID
to pawn gold, silver, buy back on a car, you need ID.
To go see oasis, or WWE UFC you ticket purchase must be verified by the id and phone and cards records that match. 3 different forms of ID to see entertainment in a stadium or normal venue ticket web system wont sell you tickets without log card on phone ID .
It is cashless within the venues and your card must be registered with your phone and most cards and phone do facescan and voice active, so more ID.
You cannot use a credit card tap on certain London or e.u train under grounds lines as the system needs a debit card to tap on tap off.
You cannot drive a car or park in most cities and towns without qr code which is ID
When I hear digital ID on alt media I am baffled, you cannot even work without the employer seeing a some form of ID.
Every interaction within the state is recorded.
Coming in the near future. ‘Your papers, they are not in order’, you can’t buy groceries because of this. Internet goes down and all hell breaks loose.
It may be piecemeal by necessity in the UK, but all it took in the US was a simple two step pincer movement. As Whitney Webb has pointed out, the “pandemic” got those on the left to support digital ID’s and the police not respecting people’s rights; and now, the furor over immigration enforcement is getting those on the right to support the same things.
she did not say that, she said the conservatives maga lot will due to the migration thing and she was not wrong.
Did and do the left support Digital ID yes or no?
Did and do the left support forced vaxx of the anti-vaxxers yes or no?
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/democrat-judge-sets-precedent-for-mass-forced-vaccination-of-all-children/
https://www.coloradocitizenpress.com/house-democrats-sneak-forced-vaccination-bill-through-committee-on-sunday/
https://vaccines.news/2022-02-16-california-democrats-introduce-bill-force-vaccinations-employees.html
https://readingjunkie.com/2021/04/13/democrats-want-to-force-vaccination-on-soldiers/
https://needtoknow.news/2022/02/california-democrat-lawmakers-trying-to-force-covid-vaccines-on-all-workers-and-students/
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated
I have the distinct feeling that all this technocratic nonsense will soon be over. Either one of their wars will get completely out of hand, or they won’t be able to contain the economic crisis, or a bunch of pimply-faced youngsters will hack everything that isn’t nailed down.
Or maybe a major natural disaster happens that leads to prolonged power cuts. Either way, all the evil plans are standing on rotten legs on the edge of the abyss.
I’m hoping the Graunatised left are gonna wake up, via Israeli barbarism and their obvious control of all our politicians.l
It isn’t Israel controlling UK politicians but the US. Israel is a puppet regime, used to channel American genocide, which began when they butchered the Indians.
Your “feeling” is almost certainly wrong.
Given the things you mention are completely scripted, how on earth could they “get out of hand?”
I like how you suggest that “additional security” added to everything, is meant to suck, so that people cry out for a digital ID. Very astute.
You will have digital ID by 2030 the latest. Its a global program to enslave humanity some more. No opting out possible. Even local revolution would just lead to you to not be able to enter any other country because of lack of digital credentials. They are building the digital zero trust net zero gulag and oyu will be an inmate.
Care to estimate the terawatts of power and litres of cooling water per annum needed to run both AI and mass surveillance?
How will they force the Amish to adopt digital ID while still allowing Freedom of Religion?
Trade will only be possible digital.
Absolutely, slow mission creep. Just like the uni-party trying to incite race riots here in the UK to accelerate that digital prison. In order to control the uncontrollable immigration digital ID will be put forward as a “solution”.
Thankfully riots are less often than in past when gasoline had lead in it.
The lead was the cause of violence and an asshole company called the ethyl corporation was able to keep it in gas until the 80s in the USA.
Lead gasoline caused all the riots at that time? O’boy o’boy 😯 .