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Trump Said It: “There’s No Better Word Than Stupid.”

Edward Curtin

Image credit: The Thought Catalogue, via Flickr

For anyone who still thinks Donald Trump does not represent the interests of what is called “the deep state” but is actually the shallow or official US state, it is time to think again. If he is not a figurehead for those alleged hidden forces, then he will agree to a Russia-Ukraine settlement on Russia’s fundamental terms – that is, a mutual security agreement that stipulates the pulling back of US/NATO forces encircling Russia, etc. – when he meets with Putin in Alaska today.

There will be no further delay.

This, however, is extremely unlikely. Trump knows little but bullying and the use of the English language as a hammer. “I’m very highly educated,” he has said, without a scintilla of irony, “I know words, I know the best words. But there’s no better word than stupid.”

On the latter assertion he is right: there is no better word than stupid when it’s applied correctly.

During his campaign for the presidency, Trump used words more than fifty times to say that he would end the war in Ukraine “within twenty-four hours” of assuming the presidency. He could have accomplished this on day one by issuing an executive order (beside all he did issue), stopping all military aide to Ukraine, but he didn’t. Seven months of game-playing have elapsed and the war goes on with Trump’s backing laced with doubletalk about how he is seeking peace in Ukraine, is a man of peace, is bringing all American troops back home, and of course he gave a grateful ah-shucks when his brother-in-genocide, Benjamin Netanyahu, showed him a letter nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize.

He fully supports the destabilization of Russia, overtly or covertly, as have his predecessors, and this in incompatible with any deal Russia can agree to when he meets with Putin in Alaska.

This past weekend, and starting up again late Tuesday in the more conservative corporate media, August 12th as I write, CNNThe NY Times, and the Washington Post, three prominent establishment media (organs of propaganda) published their usual reminders to all presidents that they are watching:

CNN: “Trump-Putin summit in Alaska resembles a slow defeat for Ukraine”

The New Tork Times: “After Almost Losing Trump, Putin Gets His Ideal Summit”

Max Boot op ed, the Washington Post: “Putin is setting up Trump for another Munich”

For these media know that the Russians are coming still, as they have been for nearly a century, so don’t swim too far out into the Atlantic or Pacific, for they are waiting with Jaws to seize you. They are red and ravenous and have huge teeth.

Some claim these articles, and many more to come, are an example of how the “deep state” is pressuring Trump to continue to encircle Russia and degrade its military and economic strength (even try to oust Putin, as Biden said) despite Trump’s sincere desire to end the U.S./NATO war against Russia as a means to peaceful cooperation. This would assume Trump is radically different from every U.S. president in the last eighty years (with the exception of JFK, especially in the last year of his presidency) whose policies were all malignantly opposed to the USSR and then Russia.

In one respective way Trump is different, for he has stepped straight out of an updated version of a Twain bitter satire or Melville’s Confidence Man, a dangerous ignorant liar whose mask hides yet reveals the agenda he serves so faithfully. The man, after all, was a reality-television star and has long reveled in radical reversals of previous statements and intentions.

For example, in his first term, he often talked of withdrawing from NATO but never did; NATO, in fact, expanded under his watch. He talked about ending the U.S./NATO support for Ukraine’s bombing of Russian-speaking areas of eastern Ukraine, only to withdraw from the Minsk Accords and send military equipment to Ukraine to bomb those areas. A mimic of the severest neurotic, he reverses himself so often that it is obvious that it is a part of the strategic script he is performing. Confuse, confound, keep the audience is constant anticipation of the switch-back.

It assumes as well that Trump’s support for Israel and its genocide of the Palestinians is somehow divorced from the U.S.’s overall geopolitical strategy throughout the Middle East, West Asia, Eastern Europe, Russia, and its desperate efforts throughout the world to counter the ascendency of the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates) as the U.S. debt skyrockets and its world dominance diminishes.

Trump’s recent flim-flam plan is to pull a Richard Nixon Vietnamization hoax with NATOization of the war against Russia through Ukraine. I am convinced that the US/NATO war against Russia will not be ending unless NATO is dissolved, which Trump is not proposing. He only wishes to strengthen NATO with European money, not that of the U.S. NATO’s only current raison d’être is to destroy Russia as an independent country and create regime change there through multiple means. This has long been so. It is why the Obama administration engineered a coup d’ état in Ukraine in 2014. It is why NATO has existed for so long and has expanded. Open warfare in Ukraine is just one means among many they have used over the years. You can even “end” the overt war and continue the covert.

If NATO is not dissolved, the undermining of Russia will continue under Trump, who may –  I emphasize “may” – recognize that the proxy war is lost on the battlefield, a fact obvious for years despite U.S. government and mainstream media propaganda to the contrary – propaganda so blatantly false that it raises questions about people’s gullibility, but not about the mainstream media’s lies. How many foreign leaders do such media need to call the new Hitler before people wise up?

As the man said, “There’s no better word than stupid.”

Edward Curtin: Sociologist, researcher, poet, essayist, journalist, novelist….writer – beyond a cage of categories. His new book is AT THE LOST AND FOUND: Personal & Political Dispatches of Resistance and Hope (Clarity Press)

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Papa
Papa
Sep 8, 2025 2:03 PM

1990 saw the peace dividend, squandered on the reckless expansion of NATO east. All administrations since Reagan are complicit. War chosen over peace.

Reading Scott Horton’s book, “ Provoked.” 675 pages, over 6,500 footnotes. IMO – disturbing to read the deceptions and betrayals hosted on the American people.

birdie
birdie
Sep 1, 2025 6:57 PM

Very entertaining.
Great read. 💋 
Is Ed exclusive to the site?

Max Sarc
Max Sarc
Aug 20, 2025 11:34 PM

Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates… surely we can trust those governments to do the right thing !

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Aug 19, 2025 2:11 PM

“I’m in this to stop the killing,” Mr. Trump had said on the way to Alaska…
*
Moral inconsistency may not be a strong enough term to describe the immense contrast between American President Donald Trump’s feigned or real concern over those unfortunates killed in the Ukraine conflict and Trump’s obvious indifference over the tens of thousands of Palestinians killed since October 7, 2023 by Israel’s military, with bombs/weapons supplied by America to carry out/perpetuate the genocide.

Hypocrisy’s definition might come much closer, suggesting Donald Trump’s self-promotion as a “man of peace” during the 2024 election campaign was nothing more than a crude, insincere, deceptive political tactic applied only to mesmerize the American people – to gain their votes.

Hypocrisy: The act or practice of a hypocrite; a feigning to be what one is not, or to feel what one does not feel; a dissimulation, or a concealment of one’s real character, disposition, or motives; especially, the assuming of false appearance of virtue or religion; a simulation of goodness.

antonym
antonym
Aug 19, 2025 3:16 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Ukraine: thousands of violent deaths a week, Gaza dozens of deaths a week.

Woke can’t count, that why their economies like California and Germany are going down the drain.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 20, 2025 1:45 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

After 8 years plus 4 years, and 5 wars extra with the Liberals, I find your comment about hypocrisy to arrive a little too late.

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Aug 20, 2025 1:30 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Hello Erik Nielsen,

Apparently, your comment expresses dissatisfaction with my being overly harsh on U.S. President Donald Trump. My efforts since May 2013 have consistently criticized hypocrites, moral degenerates and/or Fascist war pigs, regardless of political party affiliation.

Perhaps you find it acceptable that Donald Trump has done nothing to stop the wicked, vile, anti-life Fascist global transhumanist agenda. Perhaps you’ll find the courageous efforts of Dr. Daniel Broudy and his like-minded colleagues to have arrived “a little too late”. Or, perhaps you owe me a sincere public apology.

Best regards.

Please see this: https://onenessofhumanity.wordpress.com/2025/08/18/dr-daniel-broudy-lecture-who-is-pushing-transhumanism/

simsar
simsar
Aug 19, 2025 12:41 PM

What if Putin and Trump is the better option.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 20, 2025 1:47 AM
Reply to  simsar

Then they must be erased from the surface of this planet. We cant have it. Crucify them!

DJK
DJK
Aug 19, 2025 7:24 AM

Wow, it appears that Putin himself couldn’t have given a kinder analysis than this to Russia. There was no coup by the US in Ukraine, so that is the first key point of disinformation. Russian actors have tried to rig the elections in all the former republics, and when they couldn’t in Ukraine they said that the US instead did. So they used this as an excuse to break the deal that sent over 2,000 nuclear weapons back to Russia in exchange for the guarantee of sovereignty in 1992. Russia is currently engaged in another war of conquest in Ukraine to carve out even more of the country for itself. Anyone that believes otherwise hasn’t been paying attention, and anyone that thinks that Russia is winning on the ground hasn’t been paying attention either. Left with a mere shadow of the immense inventory of weapons of war, Russia is on the verge of collapse, with no funds to continue the war into 2026. They seek guarantees that Ukraine will not be treated as a sovereign nation that has the right to form allies with whomever they wish, but would never suggest that they be subject to any such restrictions. They use Chinese and North Korean and African fighters increasingly mostly as cannon fodder for their ill considered meat attacks that show they have no appreciation for human life. I think that the best outcome is for Russia to collapse and slink home with their tail between their legs like the beaten dog they are quickly showing themselves to be.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 19, 2025 9:11 AM
Reply to  DJK

“ There was no coup by the US in Ukraine..”

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2014_Ukraine_coup

And there were no coups in : Chile, Iran, Guatemala and many other countries by the US ?

DJK
DJK
Aug 21, 2025 12:36 AM
Reply to  Brianbero

So you take the word of Russian media which is completely controlled by Russia as your evidence that there was more interference by US/NATO than by Russia in the Ukranian elections? That doesn’t sound at all objective. Yes, the mainstream media in the US is controlled, but the Russian media is even more so. There is no actual evidence detailed here, just accusations and assertions such as Russia commonly uses for all of its military conquests and invasions.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 22, 2025 10:54 PM
Reply to  DJK

” So you take the word of Russian media, “

Er no, I follow the evidence directly from the horses mouth namely Geofffrey Pyatt, US ambassador to the Ukraine ( at the time ) and Victoria Nuland, assistant secretary of state ( at the time )

Geoffrey Pyatt – Wikispooks

Document:Victoria Nuland’s ‘Ukraine-gate’ Deceptions – Wikispooks

Adams
Adams
Aug 17, 2025 9:51 PM

Trump is a huge disappointment to me
In W.dc he is looking like some kind of Walter Mitty character swimming erratically in a river full of piranhas . PalentirThiel being one of the larger predators ensconced . Executive orders are the perfect vehicle for a Mitty type.
Fortunately for him all the political leaders in the UK and EU are shocking twerps
. Ukraine has already lost the proxy war .
The Epstein records have dematerialised.
The Swamp is draining Trump.

berty
berty
Aug 17, 2025 8:15 PM

The giant undefeated Tyson Fury vs small Usyk from Ukrainian the fight called the ring of fire.
The small outsider from Ukrainian wearing Russian regalia upon entrance and wearing his beloved Ukrainian boxing shorts with maria on the back the devoted Christian
shocked the world to beat undefeated giant Fury in a huge upset win.

Ukraine did win and for 300 sterling per month you could bag yourself a good looking white Ukrainain family to live in your home

Homes for Ukraine scheme allows individuals in the UK to offer accommodation to Ukrainian refugees.

I did not see any migrant hotels demonstration over this.

Russia did lose the PR war.

antonym
antonym
Aug 18, 2025 10:38 AM
Reply to  berty

“He [Biden] did something that was unthinkable. He drove China and Russia together. That’s not good… it’s the one thing you didn’t want to do. Because they are basically natural enemies,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity.
The US president went on to claim that Russia’s vast territory is something that China needs to accommodate its massive population, but because of pure stupidity, they were driven together. 

That is stupidity from by-partisan MIC Neo-Con men in Con-gres$ and the $enilate.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 20, 2025 1:51 AM
Reply to  antonym

Well, he had to say something. How do you comment on a Liberal’s actions.

Thom
Thom
Aug 16, 2025 5:12 PM

Pretty embarrassing for the British media who have been proclaiming a Ukraine victory and even Russia defeated almost from the word go in 2022. The fiercely independent Guardian has spent three years censoring any criticism below the line of laughing boy Zelenskyy, presumably in case it upsets the British government and their controllers in Washington.

R. Merrill
R. Merrill
Aug 16, 2025 4:18 PM

I don’t agree with much of the above discussion. I think Trump “thought” that as president he would be in charge of US foreign policy. The truth is he is not and no president ever is. US foreign policy is made by the Deep State and that means CIA, Pentagon, weapons maker funded think tanks. Israeli lobby, and others. Presidents are simply told what to do and say. This is what happened to Trump and his very many promises to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. He ran up against the brick wall of the Deep State. He was right in saying the war never should have started in the first place. But he had no power to make that stick.

The important thing to remember here is that in 2011 Obama and Hillary proclaimed the criminal “Pivot to Asia”: that is, the focus of all American war making policy and development would focus on the inevitable war against Russia and China. Trump is being ordered to submit to this Pivot to Asia policy, whether he likes it or understands it or not.

What these Deep State planner really want is an armistice or a permanent ceasefire along the lines that ended the US war against Korea. This means the war will continue to exist, just as the Korean war still exists after 75 years, but the shooting and bombing has stopped. This will allow the US and NATO to fully militarize Ukraine as the frontline war state against Russia, just as South Korea has been fully militarized against North Korea and China.

Putin will never accept an armistice or ceasefire. Ukraine must give up the Nazi regime installed by Obama and Hillary in 2014. It must not be allowed to militarize under US and NATO plans, which are aimed at a full war against Russia. Russia will fight the US and NATO in Ukraine until the Russia hating Nazis are gone. Trump is being allowed to talk now because Russia is within a month or two of a full military defeat of Ukraine.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Aug 19, 2025 8:10 AM
Reply to  R. Merrill

Please remember that Trump was already President for 4 years. For the entire 4 years he had zero influence in foreign policy, was ignored the entire time. It was so obvious that in April 2017 he decided to try and make it look like it had been his idea to abdicate his power, turned all Cmdr in Chief decisions over to “his generals” who proceeded to roam the planet at will. He nullified his own election.

antonym
antonym
Aug 19, 2025 10:01 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

Remember fake Russiagate, the Deep State and all its media against Trump.

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Aug 16, 2025 2:49 PM

Putin is now firmly in control – if he has any sense he’ll keep pushing West in Ukraine and eventually he will subdue Ukraine, on his terms, Trump doesn’t care about Ukrainians, he is only interested in what he and his backers can gain out of the conflict, which is sought after minerals in the Donbas which are in the land that Russia now controls, we can’t have FAB rockets flying over head – whilst US companies are asset stripping Ukraine at ground level.

Those fools, or should I say evil warmongers in Europe, known as the Coalition of the Willing – will stupidly take up the mantle to defend the Neo-Nazi dictatorship, at great cost to Europe’s citizens, who must rise up and overthrow their EU yoke of oppression, Europeans will be left to foot the bill, that EU totalitarian bigwigs such as Kallas, von der Leyen and Sandu have agreed to pay, to put a Neo-Nazi dictatorship ahead of their own citizens, to please their corporate masters.

These same evil b&stards are helping to prop up a Zionist regime that’s committing genocide in Gaza – Trump is also propping that monstrous occupying force known as Israel.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 9:03 AM

Putin is now firmly in control

Excellent.

Perhaps Lost in a Dark Wood is correct since, by some measures, Russia is ahead in the Digital Panopticon buildout and they will be among the first to start implementing:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/08/10/stirrings-of-rebellion-in-unhappy-britain/#comment-730326

Lost in a dark wood

Aug 12, 2025 8:47 PM

Reply to  Lu1

What do THEY need any of it for? In your head, THEY already have total control. THEY don’t even need to keep us entertained. Those of us who are still in someway useful, they could keep like farm animals in cramped cells with minimal consumption. The rest, THEY could just kill off.

prior to turning the social credit score of the somewhat useful down to zero when the AI/Automation is complete and the Panopticon is closed down permanently.

At least a lot of the 95% gullible, guilty, stupid a-hole “Russian” population would have served a a year or two for their crimes.

Having said that, it is likely the panopticon inmates will still be mumbling “ROSS-C-YA” as they continue to design hypersonic missiles (to finally beat Ukraine) and polish off the final bit of necessary AI code just prior starvation.

Justice may neve be served.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 5:02 PM

Spot on !

DJK
DJK
Aug 21, 2025 12:43 AM

Putin is now firmly in control of what? Not even his own bowels I think. In the last two years Russia has managed to expand its control of Ukraine by less than 1 percent. It has lost nearly all of its modern equipment, and is struggling to pay its debts and inflation is spiraling out of control. It gets foreign troops to fight and quickly they are shown to be just cannon fodder, going home in body bags. Putin needs to realize he needs to worry about Russia not about taking foreign lands such as Ukraine that they promised to respect in 1992. If Ukraine wants to form alliances with NATO it is no more Russia’s business than it would be for Ukraine to invade Russia for forming alliances with China or Iran. Russia has a GDP less than Australia and is quickly becoming a failed state all because Putin wants to be the big shot in charge of all the former republics. That day has passed.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 22, 2025 11:00 PM
Reply to  DJK

” In the last two years Russia has managed to expand its control of Ukraine by less than 1 percent…”

Ukraine in maps: Tracking the war with Russia – BBC News

Elmor
Elmor
Aug 16, 2025 2:05 PM

PS Heim’s “Theory of Everything”

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/who-is-lyle-allen-anderson-iii-v7.4w3fRTk6cn_Bf8AD23A

Of course, it would be extremely impor-
tant to determine where “humanoid sub-
species” such as Negroes and Jews are
located in Heim’s theoretical framework.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Aug 16, 2025 1:20 PM

Did they give out popcorn?

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Aug 16, 2025 12:47 PM

Alalsk 2025, once again an example of open mockery of those who believe these theatrics.

From ABC Australia…

Trump reached the meeting point on the red carpet first, and three times broke into little bursts of clapping as he waited for Putin to walk to him.

A handshake, then smiles, before the two men entered the one vehicle. The image of Trump and Putin in the back seat of a limousine — with Putin laughing — will become an iconic presidential image.

They are laughing at the stupidity of the gullible public. Both are puppets of Chabad. It is no secret, having been reported not just in alt-media but also the MSM.

I said a while back that Putin will be rehabilitated in the public perception of those living in the West. This Alaska 2025 meet is part of that PR change of direction. This is all scripted, his bad boy days are coming to an end and he will be cast as a good guy going forward.

The Trump Putin duo are being slowly elevated to be cast as messianic figures. Whether in the final cut, only one, or both will act the role simultaneously, or one after another remains to be seen.

Repeat after me:  “All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts…”

They call it the “world stage” for a reason. Hidden in plain sight.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Aug 16, 2025 12:51 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Link to a MSM article. Probably goes into pending so I separated it from the comment above.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007/

One on Putin from the horse’s mouth:

https://chabadinfo.com/blogs/the-secret-behind-putins-love-for-chabad/

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 20, 2025 2:09 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock
Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Aug 16, 2025 1:16 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

All the world’s a stage, actors and puppets..

underground poet
underground poet
Aug 16, 2025 10:38 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

All the worlds a stage, and most of you are desperately under rehearsed.

R. Merrill
R. Merrill
Aug 16, 2025 4:23 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

It is not a stage. The US and NATO are fully committed to all out war against Russia and China. They will not be allowed to challenge the single global hegemony of the US. Read US military policy. It is clear as a bell. WW III is in the making and that will not be any sort of theater performance.

Russia endured one world war against itself and 29 million people were killed. It has not forgotten. It will not allow the US and NATO to transform Ukraine into a platform for launching WW III.

Trump probably has the right instincts in opposing WW III. But he is not in charge. He has no power. If he tried to exert power, he’d end up just like JFK — with a bullet in his head.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 5:09 PM
Reply to  R. Merrill

Undoubtedly, this is correct. The MIC having laid out from a number of policy documents what their intentions dating back many years.

Here is one of a number of them.

Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Aug 17, 2025 6:41 PM
Reply to  R. Merrill

So what was the global lockstep international reaction to a fake pandemic about?

Unless of course you believe it was real.

Friend and foes all came together to play their parts, set the stage, organise the props and read their identical scripts. International terrorist groups took a holiday, local wars were placed on hold and the usual geopolitical posturing from big mouth politicos and other role players stopped – no more hurling insults and threats at one another.

They manufactured a fake pandemic, and killed elderly and vulnerable people in hospitals and care homes to justify the claim it was a genuine pandemic.

The US and NATO are fully committed to all out war against Russia and China

That is part of the script that they need you to believe.

The different ‘sides’ are pretending to be enemies representing their own populations interests during the possible lead-up to a carefully coordinated and scripted WWIII.

That then justifies all sorts of draconian restrictions, shortages and rationing. It also allows for conscription, opening the possibility to killing tens or hundreds of millions during the warfare or due to starvation, disease and other secondary effects of the war.

All it takes is for the populations of different so-called nation states to believe the manufactured threat and partake in it to bring it to life, just as they did with Covid-1984. The effects on the lives of ordinary people will be real, however the underlying justification and narrative will not. Participation by ordinary people will be key to its success from the perspective of the controllers.

CBL
CBL
Aug 17, 2025 9:29 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Not to mention the global compliance with respect to the unopposed creation and insertion of a digitally-controlled environment/reality perception – anything goes once that is in place..a premise miss-sold to some of those more astute as ‘evolution’.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Aug 17, 2025 6:45 PM
Reply to  R. Merrill

So what was the global lockstep international reaction to a fake pandemic about?

Unless of course you believe that it was real.

Friends and foes all came together to play their parts, set the stage, organise the props and read their identical scripts. International terrorist groups took a holiday, local wars were placed on hold and the usual geopolitical posturing from big mouth politicos and other role players stopped – no more hurling insults and threats at one another.

They manufactured a fake pandemic, and killed elderly and vulnerable people in hospitals and care homes to justify the claim that it was a genuine pandemic.

The US and NATO are fully committed to all out war against Russia and China

That is part of the script that they need you to believe.

The different ‘sides’ are pretending to be enemies representing their own populations interests during the possible lead-up to a carefully coordinated and scripted WWIII.

That then justifies all sorts of draconian restrictions, shortages and rationing. It also allows for conscription, opening the possibility to killing tens or hundreds of millions during the warfare or due to starvation, disease and other secondary effects of the war.

All it takes is for the populations of different so-called nation states to believe the manufactured threat and partake in it to bring it to life, just as they did with Covid-1984.

The effects on the lives of ordinary people will be real, however the underlying justification and narrative will not. Participation by ordinary people will be key to its success from the perspective of the controllers.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Aug 19, 2025 8:17 AM
Reply to  R. Merrill

Yes he’s powerless, everyone knows it, so he should resign.

Axel B.C. Krauss
Axel B.C. Krauss
Aug 16, 2025 12:01 PM

German publicist Alexander Benesch put it best when he described the current situation as follows:

“The three superpowers could proclaim a joint world government at any time, but in that case, citizens would assume that there was no longer any serious threat and would vehemently demand more freedom and prosperity. There would no longer be any excuse for rich elites, oppression, excessive armament, surveillance, religious tensions, and exploitation. The superpowers could let the Cold War they are currently waging continue for decades until there are hardly any citizens left who understand what freedom means, or they could wage proxy wars or fight each other directly to keep citizens busy and in a state of constant panic.”

Bingo. It’s about “conflict management” in a technocratic way. And, of course, maximizing profits on the way.

As Antony C. Sutton put it:

“The synthesis sought by the establishment is called the New World Order. It cannot be established without controlled conflict. Random individual actions by people in society would not bring about this synthesis, which is artificial—that is why it must be created. And that can only be done through the calculated, controlled use of conflict. […] This explains why international bankers supported the Nazis, the Soviet Union, North Korea, North Vietnam, ad nauseam – against the United States. The “conflict” generates profits while bringing the world ever closer to a world government. The process continues to this day.” (Antony Cyril Sutton, “America’s Secret Establishment”, p. 115).

And just as James Burnham once predicted, the world is now divided into three superpowers (Oceania, Eurasia and Asiania, as Orwell called them in his book “1984”, an idea which he had adapted from Burnham) – US/anglo-american bloc, EU, BRICS.

So, to dissolve NATO wouldn’t help. And it won’t happen anyway. Because it’s about a state of “permanent crises”. More of such crises will follow – be it another regional war (China/Taiwan?) or India/Pakistan – take your pick. Or maybe a new “pandemic”, whatever. It’s about keeping the populace “on their toes”.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 1:45 PM

As the famous unique commentator at OffG Erik Nielsen put it:
“Yes the devil rule the world. We dont have to get that down the throat 500 times, but to hear how to get around that situation??”.

No answer! Only an open mouth from James Burninghouse, Antony C. Sutton, Alexander Benesch, and the rest of the pack.

As Erik Nielsen put it:”I cant count on you fokkers, but have to do everything myself”.

sandy
sandy
Aug 16, 2025 5:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Get to work, dude! 😉

ariel
ariel
Aug 17, 2025 12:17 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Of course the ‘devil’ rules ‘the world’ (patent applied for.) This is one of the levels of HELL, the HURT place of duality, Where pleasure turns to pain and suffering, ‘at the drop of a hat.’
Just because we have been told different, doesn’t make it the TRUTH.
This is ‘Satan’s Amusement Park,’ as I have taken to calling it since I wrote the eponymous song.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 12:55 PM
Reply to  ariel

“This is one of the levels of HELL”

Would explain a lot.

Awful but still infinitely better than waiting on the megalomaniac uttering the arbitrary change of worship direction around the throne from the lowest level aka Heaven.

Jaysus, iit could be an exquisitely fine pickle.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 17, 2025 9:04 PM
Reply to  ariel

Not been there, not done that. Not sure I ever will. I am busy enough with fishing divine treasuries.
Have you really been deep into Hell’s world that much Ariel? One of the levels…  😧 .

So while you were walking onto hell’s levels, I was fishing this one up here: https://dzen.ru/video/watch/67b732bc4722847b676d4352 .
Another proof of our divine origin and what we humans have capacity to perform, be and express if we maintain contact. The combination of orchestra, guitar, phonic language, voice, and ……soul.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:27 AM

I’d redefine the word ‘stupid’ as follows:

‘Behaviour of media foghorns in promoting Russophobia and nuclear war after they have been told that the consequence of them doing so. will change from ‘career enhancing’ to ‘bloodline extermination’.

Do we think that President Trump would enact such a change to the media regulatory environment, would he apply it selectively against Democrat-supporting foghorns or would he say ‘eliminating the cancer in all its metastatic forms is essential for the survival of the patient’?

The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
Aug 16, 2025 9:03 AM

Letting the plebs know that all this stuff about increased longevity they’ve been pumping out recently doesn’t apply to them:
https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/life-expectancy-uk-longevity-deaths-mortality-b2804332.html

As usual, the most interesting thing is the possible causes they do (and don’t) choose to fixate on…. and thus the solutions. “Loneliness” is all about surveillance, peer pressureSmash up the family and then get and getting everyone in their beehive – they don’t give a shit about it in reality as they’re the people who’ve been generating social atomisation for decades. Smash up the family and then get everyone down the local masonic lodge!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:28 AM

Some families never need ‘smashing up’, they were engaged in emotional civil war from the time they were created.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 1:58 PM

Both communism and socialism is about care for the masses and no mercy for the single human or for the family concept.

Changing the society ‘from Family sustained to State sustained’. Stalking the Kulaks, appointed as the working class’s worst enemy, the lower middle class family who made a little ha family farming, or a family shop or any self-sustained small trade, independent of the Central Committee.

China and Soviet sacrificed and starved to death 60 mio independent people on this disgusting stupid ideology.

R. Merrill
R. Merrill
Aug 16, 2025 4:25 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

China and Soviet sacrificed and starved to death 60 mio independent people on this disgusting stupid ideology.”

Where do you get this stupid idea. It is not at all what happened. Why do you repeat the lies of the haters of communism and socialism?


Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 17, 2025 8:18 PM
Reply to  R. Merrill

Search “famines in Sovjet and China” on Yandex.ru. All the links appearing will confirm what I just said!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 17, 2025 8:37 PM
Reply to  R. Merrill

Too lazy?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308010777_Comparing_the_Soviet_and_Chinese_Famines_Their_Perpetrators_Actors_and_Victims
The Soviet (1931-33) and Chinese (1958-62) famines were man-made catastrophes…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China .
The Great Leap Forward is said to have costed China 15-55 mio dead.

https://www.academia.edu/6013915/Soviet_and_Chinese_Famines_in_Historical_Perspective
The 20th century has been a century of political famines, that is, famines directly-and at times willfully-caused by human policies, in war 1 and in peacetime.
Scores of millions starved to death in times during which there was enough food to feed everyone and the means to transport it where needed. 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1bhknwh
DURING THE TWENTIETH CENTURY more people died of famine than in any other century in human history.¹
When we hear the word “famine,” pictures of starving African babies may come to mind. However, it would be more consistent with the historical facts if we were to think of starving peasants from the Soviet Union and China as well, for as Stephen Devereux estimates, 80 percent of the 70.1–80.4 million victims of famine in the twentieth century died in these two countries.

https://www.broadstreet.blog/p/a-tale-of-two-famines .
Around 6 to 10 million people died from famine in the Soviet Union in 1932 and 1933, and 22 to 45 million died from famine in China between 1959 and 1961.
The top leadership of the Chinese government was horrified by the famine.
They did not anticipate that the death toll from a planning mistake could be so large.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/ces.2008.4 .
Yes Springer. China’s Great Leap Forward (GLF) of 1958–1961 ended as a catastrophe as widespread famine claimed millions of human lives.

All links following tells the same story

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 9:27 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Both communism and socialism is about care for the masses and no mercy for the single human

While capitalism is about care for the individual and no mercy for the masses.

Taken together we have the resulting buildout of the Digital Panopticon by the Capitalist Communist (C)CCP party and same by the Capitalist Communist DEMREP party etc etc all ruled by the tiny Capitalist Communist party of the masses of the Global Mafia, which has existed for god only knows how long.

Forget about it all Erik and just dream about your white suit.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 17, 2025 1:31 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Thanks. Its funny because it was precisely that conclusion which made me arrive to the white suit. Two opposite lies to hide the one truth:
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/rule-world-efimov-victor-alekseyevich/ .
One hour of heavy facts about the world .

antonym
antonym
Aug 16, 2025 7:53 AM

The Atlantic Deep State is still very much embedded. Even at the “top” they have their favorites in place like Starmer, Merz, Macron, von der Leyen or Rutte. It is stupid to believe otherwise.

Outsider Trump has a very hard job, he might even be (or is) co-opted now.

les online
les online
Aug 16, 2025 7:22 AM

What Showstopper ? What Great Event ?
A kiss on the tarmac, a couple of scripted lines to the Press
is all we get ?
I want my money back !!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 2:01 PM
Reply to  les online

You ordered this show and because it is done on usury loans, you will have to pay a little more each month the next 30 years. Just a couple of dollares more.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Aug 16, 2025 7:19 AM

Nothing says “This is a Stage Show” more, than building an actual stage for it…

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Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Aug 16, 2025 1:19 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Bingo

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 2:02 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Is that F35 in the background?

Kilgore Trout
Kilgore Trout
Aug 16, 2025 6:55 AM

LOOL at all the Trump supporters *(or is it just one making use of the loophole at OG allowing users to up- or down-vote twice?) downvoting all the comments.

Kilgore Trout
Kilgore Trout
Aug 16, 2025 7:42 AM
Reply to  Kilgore Trout

Trumper cultists gonna trump cultist.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2025 5:45 AM

Is War Talk a distraction to cover completion of financial armageddon? Australia has tried out a model of the Central Bank Digital Currency, and is now trying out the same model but with currency that expires. (not country-wide; not yet)

There was talk of Trump’s intention to issue exec order granting immunity to fund managers; I don’t think it went thru yet & could be legally challenged anyway. I understand it’s due to the now obscenely wide-spread process of buying up any business not owned by TPTB in order to sell it’s assets, then sell the remaining nearly-bankrupt entity at inflated price. Apparently retirement funds have been duped big-time into buying worthless assets & now Trump wants to hold harmless all entities either buying or selling .

We lost so many businesses during lockdown and now there’s a grand rush to continue centralizing all business in the hands of TPTB.

underground poet
underground poet
Aug 16, 2025 10:56 PM
Reply to  Penelope

@and is now trying out the same model but with currency that expires.

Like Haiti’s currency?, expires but is still kept on life support somehow.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 17, 2025 6:22 AM

No, “expires” as in “Here’s your money, but you can’t save any portion of it; it expires in 20 days.”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Aug 16, 2025 5:15 AM

Latest:
Europe produces today weapons and arms at triple speed for new Barbarossa III war:
(Financial Times FT 12 August 2025. https://archive.ph/BW2er )

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:33 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Europe in 2025 is rather like Britain in the late 1930s – rather behind in the rearmament stakes.

Why on earth do Europeans want Oreshnik missiles frying their populations to pieces?

The only way to stop WWIII is for Putin to make it clear that he will eliminate all the European NATO blowhards (starting with Rutte), all the EU apparatchiks (start with Van der Leyen) and all the European satrapy puppet politicians (start with Merz, Starmer and the prostitutes in Poland, the Baltics etc). He will not be eliminating the peoples of Europe who have never, ever, voted for war with Russia.

The European people have no desire for war with Russia – they’re quite happy with a trans-Eurasian trading bloc.

It’s the evil Russophobes in the USA that impose their genociodal Weltanschauung on Europe that are the chief block to such a bloc, not to mention the murderous psychopaths in Tel Aviv.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 2:07 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I think you forget history: Napoleon, Swedish Vikings, Nazis, UK, m.m.comment image .

ariel
ariel
Aug 17, 2025 12:37 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I’m reading ‘Danubia’ by Simon Winder (2013) which deals in great detail and some ironic humour with the Habsburg family centrally and all the surrounding
periphery going back over a thousand years.
A large part of the great detail is devoted to the graphic explanations of how all the European elites (not to mention the Turks) were fighting amongst themselves and stealing each others’ land non-stop in open murderous warfare, and which lately have shifted to the economic version, but having singularly failed at that are trying to go back to the former methods.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 17, 2025 1:20 PM
Reply to  ariel

I have not read that much, but this is also what I grew up with.

That the European ‘families’ were in an endless fight against each other, and it was argued that EU could/would set a stop for this.

Also why Europe allowed US to be intermediator and interfere in Europe’s affairs, because Europe was not able to end their own eternal quarrels.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 17, 2025 6:33 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Rhys, AND the British PTB who are united w the American PTB. The evil isn’t centered in a particular country. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, British “Royals”, Chinese “heavenly families” that rule China, etc. Why do you spose Canada & Australia are going along w all of this rot? The control at the top is a global cabal of psychopaths. I’ve known about them since 1963 & have watched them batten & feed upon humanity. The US is a mere mask for the Deep (globalist) State.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 22, 2025 11:12 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Europe’s industrial base had contracted very significantly so triple speed from a very low base is still a low base.

Industrial production (volume) index overview – Statistics Explained – Eurostat

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2025 5:12 AM

We’re Finked!
World Economic Forum (WEF) Board of Trustees today named BlackRock CEO Larry Fink as interim co-chair. WEF Agenda: advancing the worldwide climate change narrative, as well as the idea that China’s communist leadership model should be emulated in every country & “population management.” And, that by 2030 you’ll own nothing & be happy.

BlackRock is an official WEF partner and a critical pillar in what I’ve called the WEF Axis—the interlocking network of corporations, politicians, legal activists, and the scientific establishment that drives the Forum’s worldwide agendas.

Now, with Fink in a formal leadership role at Davos HQ, the merger of state and corporate power that the WEF calls “public-private cooperation” is more direct than ever.

https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/blackrocks-larry-fink-now-world-economic

Big Al
Big Al
Aug 16, 2025 3:49 AM

Like the Gaza genocide and why it’s really happening, Trump seems clueless about the proxy war the US is fighting in Ukraine against Russia. I mean, if he’s not golfing, sleeping, or eating RFK Jr’s recommended American diet (KFC with diet coke), he’s texting (or telling someone to text) inane bullshit all hours of the night, mostly focusing on petty bullshit that hurts his feelings. He’s as weird as it gets. He’s so clearly being led by his fake wig by the ruling zionists, neocons, and Project 2025 arch-conservatives (as obvious as Bush and the zionist neocons of 9/11 perpetration) in concert with his unbelievable vain personality. In other words, yes, he is completely controlled and doing the bidding of the part of the so called deep state that controls him.

Curtin is right when he says, “He fully supports the destabilization of Russia, overtly or covertly, as have his predecessors, and this in incompatible with any deal Russia can agree to when he meets with Putin in Alaska.” That’s how I felt when I heard of this bullshit meeting. Trump is all in and there’s no way Putin with fall for his “sales pitch”, whatever it is or won’t be. Trump is the most dangerous person in the world because he’s doing the absolute bidding of the most dangerous people in the world. He’s a fucking traitor to humanity and should go down in history as one of the most despicable humans to walk the earth. Any good that people feel comes out of his insane rhetoric and actions is overwhelming surpassed by his support of the deep state.

And that says nothing about all the other cretins, it’s simply about the current POTUS.

Big Al
Big Al
Aug 16, 2025 3:50 AM
Reply to  Big Al
Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:35 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Well, tell us Europeans something that we didn’t already know in 2014.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Aug 16, 2025 4:39 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

The point is, we all knew.

underground poet
underground poet
Aug 16, 2025 10:59 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Every time somebody tries to put something together, somebody else is trying to (successfully) break it up.

Big Al
Big Al
Aug 16, 2025 4:51 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Chuck Baldwin has been all over it. I’m a bit surprised that Paul Craig Roberts tagged on to this because he’s been such a dupe for Trump, but there it is. Unfortunately, even at the end he shows his establishment mentality and can’t simply admit Trump is a dumb shit doing what he’s basically told or maneuvered into to doing.

In the Year 2025. “Trump is Taking America Over the Edge of the Abyss …” Chuck Baldwin – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

John
John
Aug 16, 2025 2:24 AM

“Stupid is as stupid does” During Shakespeare’s time they were called “Dumb Shows”.

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 16, 2025 4:44 AM
Reply to  John

Is the Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare anti-“Semitic”?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:35 AM
Reply to  mgeo

If Shakespeare wrote in 2025 what he wrote back in the day, he’d be cancelled and never heard of again.

Joe
Joe
Aug 16, 2025 1:29 AM

Ok so Trump is part of the Deep State and so are the Democrata and Putin and Ukraine.

What in the world is going on?

Does anyone know?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Aug 16, 2025 5:17 AM
Reply to  Joe

Yes. Under the table. Knock 3 times.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 16, 2025 10:36 AM
Reply to  Joe

A cabal who only want 500 million humans on earth are doing everything they can to ensure that that becomes a reality….

Joe
Joe
Aug 16, 2025 3:59 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

So they are all in it together?

Putting, Zelenski, Trump, Biden, the Chinese government?

Is that it?

sandy
sandy
Aug 16, 2025 6:44 PM
Reply to  Joe

My own two cents, Capitalism is conflict, war to win booty. Winning is everything. Conflict is the methodology. Obtaining everything, then more, is the objective. The ruling classes are a club of sociopaths, consciousless actors of supreme ego and skill that will say and do anything to the above objective. The club has no leaders, only players. All the players know the rules, prosecute profit like warfare but protect the the club and it’s institutions that provide the Great Game field to persist. Up to this point in history, they’ve kept enough commoners comfortable or profiting to avoid having their idiotic game disrupted. But imho, in the 21st C they are battling against the limits of Universe to keep giving. This is why the technology and processes they have deployed upon Humanity, without public consent, are so extreme. As time progresses, and Universe continues to not deliver to them the personal Utopia they desire, each new dictate, each new technology, is more extreme and disruptive (their word) to little avail. The clubs incompetence (it’s inability to deliver virtually ANYTHING of value to commoners) has become so noticeable and painful (just read the comments here), we’re starting to wise up to the idea that “leaders” of any kind are a threat to Humanity. Since the club are the archetypal “leader” class of Humanity causing all the problems while the 95% have no input or established way to affect revolutionary non-violent change to self-governing, the move to a collective solution is becoming imminent. Imho.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 8:13 PM
Reply to  Joe

‘Its a club and you are not in it’, (GC).

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 17, 2025 6:51 AM
Reply to  Joe

Yes, Joe. There is a great evil loose in the world and the proof that it is nearly globally coordinated is the Vaxx Program that was nearly global in reach– some estimates are that 70% of Earth’s population took that filthy thing.
WEF has put its own people into power in many countries.
I personally think that Kissinger was Putin’s mentor. If you examine closely the breakup of the Soviet Union, there is not one thing about it that makes any sense. Or the rise of Putin after he met Kissinger.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 5:44 PM
Reply to  Penelope

“I personally think that Kissinger was Putin’s mentor.”

Before Putin became President of the Russian Federation, it was being economically raped by the West and their Russian oligarchical allies. The economy had contracted by approximately 40%, the Ruble was about 4,000 : 1 US dollar. The average life expectancy for men was under 60 years of age and most of the beggars in Moscow were old women whose state pension was almost worthless. State employees had to wait months to receive their salaries, if they were lucky, and the RF resembled Chicago of the 1920s with mass shootings, bombings, assassinations an almost daily occurrence.

In fact, the Western central bankers almost succeeded in Balkanising ( their continuing strategic goal) the RF.

Grand Deception The Browder Hoax Alex Krainer : Alex Krainer : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky

The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky, by F. William Engdahl

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 11:14 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Why will they want or need to keep 500 million.

Probably still a bit more dextrous than the current crop of football playing robots but are you better at writing Python than even the current, very mediocre, gpt.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 18, 2025 9:23 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Precisely.

Johnny
Johnny
Aug 16, 2025 12:51 AM

•Hubris and narcissism writ large.
•The cult of celebrity on steroids
•The putrid parade of patriotism.
• The Empire of war and hate in the 21st century.
•The beginning of the end.

Stupid? You bet.
(Or should that be stoopid).

yomaman
yomaman
Aug 16, 2025 12:21 AM

dat “thing” looks exactly like U FUCKING DUMWHOELZ/NGGAS!
https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/is-jeremy-godfrey-jewish

Johnny
Johnny
Aug 15, 2025 11:11 PM

Pot calling _ _

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 15, 2025 10:41 PM

It’s Pax Americana, stupid!

underground poet
underground poet
Aug 15, 2025 10:17 PM

The author is a bit behind the times, someone said Kiev is basically surrounded and about to fall any day now.

So to give a little now to save a lot later could apply here, but where have we heard that before, and in response got shot at instead just TOO continue the war.

The 2nd meeting, in Russia, perhaps after the fall, is the one we should be following

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 15, 2025 9:45 PM

For those whose knowledge of the history of Ukraine is lacking.

Ukraine : the great manipulation, by Thierry Meyssan

Peggy
Peggy
Aug 15, 2025 9:41 PM

Sadly, so very true.

Fritz
Fritz
Aug 15, 2025 9:14 PM

“American War Poetry”

In camp we don’t have time to stay,
and dream our lazy guts away.
If you will drop it, make it quick —
or move your ass, you ain’t that sick.

The stew is hot, the march ain’t far,
but hell, we ain’t got seats to spar.
So do your deed, or leave the spot —
Just shit… or get off the pot!
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The German has fun in every situation:
“Learn to suffer without complaining!”
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KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Aug 15, 2025 8:54 PM

“There’s no better word than stupid…”

Is an anagram of:

— Bent sword tone hit dust trap here. —

.

Hornbach
Hornbach
Aug 15, 2025 8:52 PM

Thank you for the article, Mr.Curtin ! I know that many commenters have other ideas but what you have presented seems fair and logical. My own feeling of President Trump was that whatever he is doing good for the American citizens (of which I am not) he is also fuxking up grand in the foreign affairs (and here lies my interest).

Hail
Hail
Aug 15, 2025 7:54 PM

For anyone who still thinks Donald Trump does not represent the interests of what is called “the deep state” but is actually the shallow or official US state, it is time to think again.

says curtis who was punch drunk of RFK jr when anyone with senses called bullshit 8 year before.

with the exception of JFK

Even 60 years later still believing that just that right man or women in the oval office will could change thing is hopium crack.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 15, 2025 8:37 PM
Reply to  Hail

Even 60 years later still believing that just that right man or women in the oval office will could change thing is hopium crack.

Erik will, probably, be along shortly along with the rest of the 95%.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 15, 2025 9:40 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Brothers in Christ or perhaps the opposite end of the spectrum !

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 9:29 AM
Reply to  brianborou

Ah yes,

the suckling child killing magalomaniac which drowned another bunch in Pakistan yesterday due to the sins of their fathers.

Congratulations.

You have done well, again, my son.

Have a mansion in a big house but remember to eternally worship clockwise until the anti-clockwise order is unveiled.

PS:

Bro Erik has Jesus as a created patsy, is that you too.

Wasn’t too big a sacrifice after all. Handy enough.

Maybe Erik, Jesus, YHWH and you can get together and plan a new, better creation with even more ways to devastate the innocents.

Brothers in eternal Arms.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 16, 2025 10:00 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Brothers in Christ or perhaps the opposite end of the spectrum !

Yes, it is very plain which end of the spectrum you belong to.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 6:32 PM
Reply to  brianborou

“Yes, it is very plain which end of the spectrum you belong to.”

Yes, yes, yes

but

Bro Erik has Jesus as a created patsy, is that you too.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 16, 2025 6:56 PM
Reply to  Lu1

“ Yes, Yes, Yes”

The sounds a lap dog makes whilst awaiting the return of its master !

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 4:05 PM
Reply to  Brianbero

The sounds a lap dog makes whilst awaiting the return of its master !

In any case Brobero, Bro Erik has Jesus as a created patsy, are you the opposite?

Was Jesus just shovelling sh*t for the big Kahuna while you get a big mansion from spouting for IT.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 4:36 PM
Reply to  Lu1

“The sounds a lap dog makes whilst awaiting the return of its master “

It seems by your retorts IT is to found here.

Dante’s Inferno : Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 7:46 PM
Reply to  brianborou

It seems by your retorts IT is to found here.

Yes, Yes, Yes Bero.

In any case Brobero, Bro Erik has Jesus as a created patsy, are you the opposite?

Was Jesus just shovelling sh*t for the big Kahuna while you get a big mansion from spouting for IT.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 17, 2025 8:49 PM
Reply to  Lu1

” Yes, Yes, Yes”

As I said earlier it sounds similar to Woof, Woof, Woof which leads on to a path which Dante’s Inferno paints a picture.

Have you read Dante’s inferno?

Of course you haven’t.

Hail
Hail
Aug 16, 2025 6:37 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Erik will, probably, be along shortly along with the rest of the 95%.

You mean your other ids; pretending to be Erik. edreal  😂 

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 9:15 AM
Reply to  Hail

You mean your other ids; pretending to be Erik. edreal  😂 

Tut-tut.

Surely even you can tell the difference due to my lack of Pidgin English.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 2:12 PM
Reply to  Hail

At least Lu1 is not THAT stupid.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 16, 2025 8:27 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

?

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 4:10 PM
Reply to  brianborou

?

Vok me Caan & Abel at it all over again.

Do you want that other a-hole’s (Mike Graham) number for an interview on Plank of the Week..

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 4:41 PM
Reply to  Lu1

“..Cain and Abel at it all over again.”

Yes, I can see you are admirer of Jeffrey Archer, he was full bxllxcks as well.

Kane and Abel is a 1979 novel by British author Jeffrey Archer.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 7:54 PM
Reply to  brianborou

Kane and Abel is a 1979 novel by British author Jeffrey Archer.

Simply,

Cain & Abel you paid for voken tit:

Genesis 4

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 17, 2025 8:54 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Oh no, it seems you are more a Jeffrey Archer, Kane and Able prospect.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 18, 2025 9:20 AM
Reply to  brianborou

Kane and Abel is a 1979 novel by British author Jeffrey Archer.

C’mon brobero, c’mon out.

Are you really a Jehovah’s Witness off-shoot groupie like your bro Erik (I had you down as a badass RC till now). .

The suspense is pre-cognitive and breakfast laugh time is nearly at an end.

You can do it brobero – just think of not so mad bad Vlad and that this cannot be a level of hell yet since bro Erik is still dreaming of being at it’s bottom level (Heaven).

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 18, 2025 12:09 PM
Reply to  Lu1

” Kane and Abel is a 1979 novel by British author Jeffrey Archer.” 
Yes, you are an admirer of Jeffrey Archer.

However, he to followed the wrong end of the spectrum

Pain and libel — after Lord Archer’s conviction, the lawyers involved talk about the criminal case that had more twists than one of the disgraced peer’s blockbuster novels..
In terms of spectacular falls from grace, last month’s jailing of Lord Archer was up there to rival Peter Mandelson, Jonathan Aitken and Richard Nixon.

Not since Cecil Parkinson’s heyday had the exploits of a Tory grande e taken so many column inches in the tabloids, with ‘Big Brother’ pushed off the front pages to make way for tales of forged diaries, illicit affairs and taped phonecalls.

The revelations which unfolded in court 8 of the Old Bailey, more like a plot from one of Lord Archer’s airport novels than a criminal trial, led to his conviction for perjury and perverting the course of justice, and a four-year jail sentence.

The criminal trial revolved around a libel action brought by Lord Archer in 1987 against the Daily Star newspaper, which had claimed that the then-deputy chairman of the Conservative Party had been seeing a prostitute, Monica Coghlan.

Pain and libel — after Lord Archer’s conviction, the lawyers involved talk about the criminal case that had more twists than one of the disgraced peer’s blockbuster novels | News | Law Gazette

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 18, 2025 6:00 PM
Reply to  brianborou

“Pain and libel”

Yes, yes, yes brobero,

But R U a

closet,

Watchtower groupie.

At the minute the only thing certain is that you are a voken a-hole.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 18, 2025 10:21 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Don’t be a Tube all the time, lighten up enjoy the blessings that God bestows.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 20, 2025 2:19 AM
Reply to  brianborou

You mean your other ids; pretending to be Erik. edreal’.(Hail)
Lu Read’s first born does not use my id to comment. He is not THAT stupid.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 20, 2025 10:31 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

” Lu..”

Not to be confused with this version of him

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Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 16, 2025 12:21 AM
Reply to  Hail

So Kennedy didn’t prevent the Cuban missile crisis escalating into a WW3, he didn’t allow the false flag madcap 9/11 events to happen, he didn’t escalate the US involvement in Vietnam, he tried to reach a detente with the Soviets.

Yes, quite.

So he was murdered because his resistance to these events was futile ?

Hail
Hail
Aug 16, 2025 6:38 AM
Reply to  Brianbero

 into a WW3  💤 

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 16, 2025 7:43 AM
Reply to  Hail

Without the agreement to withdraw the Thor nuclear missiles stationed in Turkey aimed at Southern Russia, without the agreement to withdraw nuclear missiles stationed in Cuba aimed at the East Coast of the US and without Kennedy preventing the Hawks attacking the Soviets in Cuba directly, you wouldn’t have had an opportunity to zzz’s!

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 9:46 AM
Reply to  Brianbero

So he was murdered because his resistance to these events was futile ?

Just a.n.other mafia thug – one cannot be POTUS otherwise.

He authorized, for example, Operation Ranch Hand, the U.S. military’s herbicide program in Vietnam, in November 1961 which had a devastating impact on the environment and the health of Vietnamese people, both during and after the war.

But sure, what has ever been the problem with the murder of a few hundred thousand innocent sucklings.

Perhaps he was taken out by those jealous of his promiscuity. They do like playing games. Who knows.

9/11, please, please, please sign yourself in for a google update.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 16, 2025 10:18 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Lets see, he prevented:

  • Proposed Top Secret plan from 1962 stating intent among the Joint Chiefs of Staff to stage terrorist attacks, including killing innocent civilians, to provoke war with Cuba
  • Proposals include use of drone aircraft to stage foreign attacks, staging hijackings, staging attacks on U.S. vessels and facilities, staging riots, as well as the creation of “terror campaigns” on U.S. soil

Operation Northwoods | Public Intelligence

Bay of Pigs

The Bay of Pigs Invasion was an invasion of Cuba designed to fail by the US deep state, and in so doing to induce the US PresidentJFK, to approve full scale military action against Cuba. This part of the plot failed, as JFK refused to approve an invasion of the island.

Cuban Missile CrisisFull article: Cuban Missile Crisis
After learning that the Soviet Union had begun shipping missiles to Cuba, Kennedy announced a strategic blockade of Cuba and warned the Soviet Union that the US would seize any more deliveries. Kennedy did not get much credit for resolving his from his hawkish Pentagon advisors, who considered that he has missed an opportunity for a preemptive all out attack on the USSR.

JFK/Presidency – Wikispooks

“. please, please sign yourself in for a google update.”

Yes, I can see why you arrive at very skewed conclusions.

Your road to enlightenment.

 
https://arcJFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Mattershive.org/details/jfk-and-the-unspeakable-by-james-douglass

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 11:09 AM
Reply to  brianborou

JFK And The Unspeakable 9/11 precog

 😂  😂 

U R definitely a great big tit.

At least you have provided a bit of a laugh post breakfast

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 16, 2025 12:38 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Have you read ?

No of course you haven’t.

Alas, another vacuous rant from you , from the other end of the spectrum.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 4:13 PM
Reply to  Brianbero

Have you read ?

By way of a pre-cog plank-o-the-week, seriously.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 4:55 PM
Reply to  Lu1

” have you read ?”

” No of course you haven’t ”

To help you on your road to enlightenment, here is a short synopsis of it.

In this fascinating and disturbing work, James Douglass presents a compelling account of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and why unmasking and accepting this truth remains crucial for the future of our country and the world.

The title comes from a phrase of Thomas Merton, naming of the attitudes, forces and interests that generate and support international tension and conflict.

Drawing on a vast field of investigations, including many sources available only recently, Douglass lays out a sequence of of steps over the last three years of his life that transformed JFK from a traditional “Cold Warrior” to someone determined to pull the world back from the edge of nuclear apocalypse.

Beginning with the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs invasion (which left the President wishing to “splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces”), followed by the Cuban Missile Crisis and his secret back-channel dialogues with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, JFK pursued a series of actions–right up to the week of his death–that caused members of his own U.S. military-intelligence establishment to regard him as a virtual traitor who had to be eliminated.

As the 50th anniversary of Kennedy’s assassination approaches, the story of why he was killed–his turn toward peace–is not ancient history, and bears crucial lessons for today in the light of a decade of war and continuing revelations of clandestine national security and military activities.

Douglass shows convincingly how those who plotted the death of JFK were determined not simply to eliminate a single man but to kill a vision.

Douglass’s book has all the elements of a political thriller. But the stakes couldn’t be higher.

Only by understanding the truth behind the murder of JFK can we grasp his vision and assume the urgent struggle for peace today.

In JFK and the Unspeakable Jim Douglass has distilled all the best available research into a very well-documented and convincing portrait of President Kennedy’s transforming turn to peace, at the cost of his life.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 8:05 PM
Reply to  brianborou

Only by understanding the truth behind the murder of JFK can we grasp his vision

Likely similar to his bro’s:

Donald J. Trump: You know and …
Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.
Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it.
Unknown: Whoa.
Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 17, 2025 9:00 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Since Trump was only just out of his diaphers when Kennedy was murdered by the Globalists, your retort, like the majority of them, is irrelevant.

Try reading comprehension. It might improve your understanding of texts !

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Aug 16, 2025 12:54 AM
Reply to  Hail

All right, so all these assassinated Presidents and Men in charge, they were murdered for nothing, claims the wise guys here from the nearest bar with a raised finger.

Trump, JFK and Putin are just stupid man. men-bar-guys-drinking-beer-men-communicate-mug-beer_1157-47000.jpg (626×417)

Hail
Hail
Aug 16, 2025 6:40 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

assassinated Presidents

like Trump being assassinated!!

You believe any oldshite. Most of the people who believe in this all believe in jesus.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 16, 2025 7:45 AM
Reply to  Hail

As Captain Mannering said to Private Pike ” stupid boy “.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 16, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Hail

like Trump being assassinated!!

Sore ear ketchup syndrome  😂 

Voken gullible a-holes.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Aug 16, 2025 12:41 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Or as Corporal Jones said when he was stuck for words “ don’t panic”

🐵🙊🙈🙉

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 17, 2025 8:49 PM
Reply to  Brianbero

Jones, and Mainwaring,

were both, fictional, additional members of the ‘Local Defence Volunteer‘ arm of the British Army Home Guard.

The Home Guard, initially known as the ‘Local Defence Volunteers’, was an arm of the British Army consisting of millions of local volunteer (but culpably) responding positively to “your county needs you” not long after WW1 reparations meant funding from the Global Mafia provided, in bucketloads, for a fantstic return, in WW2.

This return in WW2 was much improved, for example, Royal Dutch Shell.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 17, 2025 11:37 PM
Reply to  Lu1

” for a fantstic return, in WW2…..for example, Royal Dutch Shell. “

Mutual Funds & ETFs

2.40B 40.94% 73.66B Other Institutional Investors

1.79B 30.54% 54.95B Public Companies

1.67B 28.52% 51.32B Retail Investors

5.87B 100.00% 179.93B Total

Other Institutional Investors

BlackRock, Inc.

The Vanguard Group, Inc.

FMR LLC

Royal Dutch Shell plc, Shareview Clients

State Street Global Advisors, Inc. etc

Who Owns Shell? SHEL Shareholders – Investing.com UK

Not much of return for the British Army Home Guard.

Lu1
Lu1
Aug 19, 2025 4:56 PM
Reply to  brianborou

Not much of return for the British Army Home Guard.

Stupid a-holes, as usual.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 20, 2025 10:42 AM
Reply to  Lu1

” Stupid…”

Yes, Private Frazier would give you the answer to that !

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Sam Oconel
Sam Oconel
Aug 15, 2025 7:13 PM

If he were talking about describing himself, then he was absolutely right.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Aug 16, 2025 2:17 PM
Reply to  Sam Oconel

Said one more of the boys:comment image .