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WATCH: The Secret of the Doomsday Seed Vault

What on earth are the eugenicists preparing for with the doomsday seed vault? Why does humanity need a backup of millions of seed varieties that have presumably been around (for the most part) throughout human history?

What kind of environmental catastrophe could possibly contaminate the gene pool to the point where we would need to repopulate the earth with heirloom, non-GMO seeds?

Sources, show notes and a full transcript are available here. James Corbett’s new book Reportage can be purchased in paperback, hardback or as an audio book here.

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antonym
antonym
Dec 21, 2025 10:06 AM
brian of nazareth
brian of nazareth
Dec 20, 2025 12:44 PM

Svalbard is a difficult place to get to. This stash will be no help to hungry survivors. If anyone did reach the place during a crisis, they would probably cook porridge with the grains and then later starve anyway.

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Dec 19, 2025 11:58 PM

They deffo got the land race weed seeds in there.No skunk seeds so chill out lads.

Hail
Hail
Dec 19, 2025 5:15 PM

If you take your kids to the mall to visit Santa, maybe you should think about taking your kids to church to meet Jesus. 

https://postimg.cc/GBrMcGc8

Hail
Hail
Dec 19, 2025 5:15 PM
Reply to  Hail

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Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 7:40 PM
Reply to  Hail

Potentially perhaps. Except of course that Jesus’ only recorded visits to malls resulted in overturned tables. Likely Santa’s included

Hail
Hail
Dec 19, 2025 8:29 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Jesus’ only recorded visits?

start with did not exist.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 8:42 PM
Reply to  Hail

Sure, but then 2000 years of history would presumably also need to be revised?

Hail
Hail
Dec 20, 2025 4:47 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

2000 years of hisstory written by the same script writers who wrote covid.


Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 20, 2025 6:58 AM
Reply to  Hail

Fantastic.

We found one who is more intelligent than Emperors, Kings, and Philosophers from the entire 2500 years history, who also are wiser than Trump, Putin and Einstein’s collection of brain cells….put together.

From a normal healthy person’s point of view I would consider these statements is from someone who suffer from a deep inferior complex and therefore needs to express his group think loudly all the time, aiming for applauds from the mob.

This kind of thinking is too normal today jrf our covid case, digital id case and digital wallet case and milgram case and many more cases.

blasphem
blasphem
Dec 20, 2025 7:17 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

It’s a miracle that rapists always find Jesus when sexual allegations come up against them.

Hail
Hail
Dec 19, 2025 3:56 PM

One thing for sure the covid vaccinated will not be in the vaults.

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Dec 19, 2025 3:26 PM

The seed vault is there – in case the mad men who are running the world cause WW3 or have released some sort of pathogen that kills just about every f*ckin thing, after a few mutations that they never foresaw – its not there for the masses benefit – no we’ll be eating GM shit and develop all manner illnesses as will unborn children – remember they tried very hard to get us eat fried crickets instead of meat, saying they were delicious and good for the environment – well let them eat them if they want – but I’m sticking with meat.

I’m off to watch the future – Soylent Green – whilst munching down some lovely erm…. blocks of shit from the movie SnowPiercer.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 20, 2025 4:00 AM

Except for the original SARS, all bio-weapons fared poorly. We know little about the pandemic scares in West Africa, except that (a) there are a few imperial bio-weapons centres there (b) they need to maintain their budgets. by hook or crook.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Dec 19, 2025 11:22 AM

Banks run the world.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Dec 19, 2025 2:55 PM
Reply to  AntiSoof
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 7:42 PM
Reply to  AntiSoof

On this map it appears there are still a lot of countries and deserted land we can escape to; Iran, North-Korea, Mongolia, Canada, Namibia, Libya, Algeria, Siberia, Finland, all countries without debt.
Admitted, some them are a bit boring but nevertheless they are free from banking and something I wont say here.

blasphem
blasphem
Dec 19, 2025 10:22 AM

The incoming reset.
The sickfucks need there temple built, the Blood spilled, Red heifer already
been sacrificed not long before the 7/7 blood ritual.

les online
les online
Dec 19, 2025 9:51 AM

What’s not being said:
The religion of the 10 year old killed during the mass shooting,
The number of The Victims who dont belong to the Special religion
The number of children, especially ones belonging to the Special religion
amongst the (40+) injured
What other gatherings were occurring on the popular beach at the time
And so on….
…….
Remember, it’s said there are lies by omission*… Some narratives are
believable because they exclude what contradicts them… If you want
people to believe a Special group was the target, then you wont provide
any details about “What is not being said”…
When the Authorities say “our investigators are looking into ‘that'” it’s
indicative of their pushback against corporate media having imposed a
framing based on incestuous media speculations, and the Authorities
know it’s an uphill struggle to correct First Impressions / perception
created by the corporate mass media…
……. Of course, Conspiracy Theories, they wouldnt exist if it wasnt for
What Isnt Being Said…

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 20, 2025 4:02 AM
Reply to  les online

Thank you.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 6:15 AM

44 comments and not one have made a bet yet on Why. Why are they doing it? Why did they made it?.

Seeing the major parts of Corbett’s video my first thought was: They are making this vault for the case we end up in a nuclear WWIII.

Second thought was the concerns about the development of GMO, that some day we will have forgotten from where we came from.
The whole gene shit became chaos, chaotic, like the IT scandals and errors fronting us today. Then what to do.

In either case I see the Vault as a doomsday scenario. Back to Black. https://yandex.ru/video/preview/18318677050187251833 .

Binra
Binra
Dec 19, 2025 4:21 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

There are various doomsday scenarios – but you can bet the ones that are mainstreamed are diversionary repackaging of existential fear.

But also the USE of fear and guilt and chaos to ‘create outcomes’ assumes that control can be maintained – ie that the weapon will not destroy the user.

Future hedging against risk will at some point generate the events it seeks to defend against. Not least by drawing or directing funding for ‘solutions’ that become crisis and war dependent.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 9:10 PM
Reply to  Binra

With all the theater and military focus on manipulation of the brain revealed in these days, you could be right the vault was designed and erected only to create fear in the public. Like some kind of spell.

Yes, in many cases what we fear is what is probably going to happen.
Actually I dont know why it is like that, but many examples could be brought up.
Psychology may work to fulfill our expectations.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 9:31 PM
Reply to  Binra

Potentially the case, and yet…

Is ACIM (worth a Google) really the be-all-and-end-all of all human philosophy?

Or is obscurity the better sign of the true Brahman rather than clarity?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 20, 2025 12:50 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Many sucks on the Scriptures. She (ACIM) probably says a lot of true things, and how does she do that? Because she reap them from the Bible.
So far she has become a multi-millionaire on her book(s).

A quick check: “when referring to Christ, she writes, “The word ‘Christ’ is a psychological term. Ehhh what??
That was enough for me to not give more valuable time to it.

les online
les online
Dec 19, 2025 4:54 AM

This Is Not A Conspiracy Theory !!
Apparently, if you’re on a march protesting the Gaza genocide you’re on a
career path to become a fully fledged member of Terrorist International…
According to corporate media, chanting “Globalise The Intifada” by anti-
genocide protesters led directly to the Bondi Beach mass murders…
New South Wales premier believes chanted slogans by protesters leads
to property damage, arson, and mass murder, So it cant be a Conspiracy
Theory…
Mr Plod, ever alert to His Master’s wishes, and ever eager to implement
them, will undoubtedly attend any future anti-genocide marches in Sydney
with intent to arrest any participant chanting any slogan that sounds like it
could be “Race Hatred”, and, as Mr Plod is not known for being very
intelligent, will cause what the corporate media will label a RIOT should
there be resistances to being arrested for chanting…
The NSW premier has burning desire to ban anti-genocide marches, and
Mr Plod will have created the excuse the premier wants..
And Mossad scores another Victory,,,
…….
https://reclaimthenet.org/chris-minns-defends-nsw-hate-speech-laws-linking-censorship-to-terror-prevention
…….
The Theory seems to be: anti-genocide chants act like gateway drugs. They
can infect and take over your mind, then one day you’ll be overtaken by a
raging craving to terrorize or kill certain people… The premier wants to
silence you to protect you…

Tipo Anatas
Tipo Anatas
Dec 19, 2025 8:07 AM
Reply to  les online

The government wants to silence you to protect you !
Just like during their “pandemic” !

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 19, 2025 2:29 AM

Thanks All the young droids

Woman – Billy London

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 19, 2025 1:38 AM

You boys sufferring a cybre, fucks sake. no votes dying here so it goes

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 19, 2025 2:13 AM

Sorry, boys are not girls,
they are different
my dad said
anyway cyber attack

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 19, 2025 12:35 AM

Conflicted, can you image
!. forgetting what you were about to say
2.this world
3..people
4 ‘ drink
5 drugs
if you think what most people think is wrong

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 19, 2025 12:54 AM

les online
les online
Dec 18, 2025 11:59 PM

Should i be horrified if i wake up one morning and find i’m a Deepfake ?
Today, after waking, found i was on Santa’s Naughty List. What else
explains why my PC informs “Page Not Found” to a number of sites i
subscribe to (and none of which can be classed as ‘antisemitic’)…
If not Santa, then have i become a target of The Deep State ? Or is
this a taste of the online censorship being rolled out ?
…………

undergroundpoet
undergroundpoet
Dec 19, 2025 12:03 AM
Reply to  les online

You got hacked just like millions of mericans do everyday.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 20, 2025 4:07 AM
Reply to  les online

In future, anyone caught with ID the government deems to be fake will be sent for reprocessing as soylent green.

auric
auric
Dec 18, 2025 10:29 PM

What’s wrong with having a sensible backup plan? No different to taking computer file backups in case of a mass cyber attack wiping out all of the cloud servers or even just a simple hardware failure, for example.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 20, 2025 4:10 AM
Reply to  auric

Auto backups mean surveillance for wrong-think, at big computer sites the public pays for.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 10:24 PM

If you believe that what most people think is mostly wrong, then why bother

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 10:27 PM

no that just what

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 10:59 PM
Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 11:27 PM

Gonna host a one
No socials
A one with no no socials

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 11:29 PM

no no no socials just no no

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 11:29 PM

socials

Aloysius
Aloysius
Dec 18, 2025 10:21 PM

So this guy’s solution to GMOs is “It’s up to the individual.”

“It’s up to the individual” is a bunch of crap. They say it’s up to the individual to make you feel guilty while the rich get off scott-free.

I say it’s up to the rich. They need to have fires lit under them by mobs, not individuals. Individuals can’t do anything.

Binra
Binra
Dec 19, 2025 4:23 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

So individuals seek to collectivise mobs into weapons?
i think its enough to uncover the problem where it can be truly addressed.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 9:43 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

The guillotine. After cutting of the head off of Ludwig XVI and a hundreds thousands French nutheads, we got peace and freedom – Liberté!

Liberté was exported to US who made its Independency Declaration (globally admired) from the British bully bully King after a long mob revolt civil war.

Yes you are right as usual Aloysius. Only violence can beat violence. Usury shall be conquered with more usury. Hunger shall be fought through less food!

‘Chock’ is the keyword here: https://yandex.ru/video/preview/2887989658071433786 .

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 9:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Let them eat less cake

correspondencecommittee
correspondencecommittee
Dec 18, 2025 10:05 PM

Whatever the scenarios for which global rulers are stocking seeds, ancient survival strategy converted into sciences (of population control) under modern industrial capitalism, that we are subject to such conspiratorial insanity is the problem. Apart from masterplans (of depopulation) from eugenicists out to control the gene pool of all life, runaway ecological devastation can take off from many conditions in which plant and food (re)production have become rooted, as those conditions routinely uproot resources of life with lethal poisons. One of the sure signs of progress in the social system we are told to serve is the multiplication of means by which we can go extinct. It’s just as easy to imagine all those seeds ending up worthless from wasting water, air, and soil taking vengeance upon those who kill the earth to make money a death cult. Doomsday doesn’t have to be one big judgment from Mother Earth, just the steady death march we’re already on.

No doubt the production of GMOs ranks right up or down there among the Frankenscience pushed upon us by predators of profit and power.  But even if we reduce our frame of reference to this method of madness, consumer boycotts are too little too late, if any solution at all. They keep us prisoners to a consumer economy confining us to reactive even if necessarily defensive participants in ‘the way things are’, who consent to live under tyrants on condition we can vote with their currency in their unfree market. In other words, we socially contract with systemic abuse and organized crime against humanity, but reserve the right or privilege to protest the consequences if and when they prove harmful, and perhaps decades or generations later eventually get product warnings or reductions or rebranding as we continue to decline from all the harms we’re not addressing.  

Monopoly capitalism moves over us by supply creating demand, as modes and relations of production, not just products themselves, are continually revolutionized by creative destruction and shock doctrine bringing different generations of human resources along for the ride. Corbett calls anyone irresponsible who is unable to keep up with all the fine print and invisible ink in such servitude to our benefactors as his buyer-beware, bourgeois activism casts us. And just like the proverbial poor of whom he seems to have no sense, we supposedly have no one to blame but ourselves for the predicaments of power into which we’ve been born.

Corbett correctly points out the futility of protesting government protection rackets of the ruling class to protect us from their partners in crime, as with their rigged regulatory schemes. But boycotts amount to the same impractical nonsense as long as the rich directly rule the economic foundations of existence. The point is not to forever ‘reform’ but to abolish the social system, and rather than remain captive consumers strike at the roots of our demise by taking away ruling class control of the means of production.  

We’re now in a doomsday revolution from the top down as the means of production have been thoroughly weaponized against us by class war out for final solutions of total control over all resources of life. Acting responsibly under such circumstances means responding with revolutionary movements from below against the very premise that there should be a few ruling over the many in (open) secrecy, and that anything or anyone human can survive the world war upon us. ‘Civilization’ based on class rule is taking us all down with it in this endgame unless we wake up to rise up for another, more egalitarian world, and no tactic, from protests to boycotts, does a movement make.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 19, 2025 4:38 AM

Some national seed banks ended up under the control of the global gangsters. Besides the horror of GMO and related agro-poisons imposed with the help of govvernment criminals, there are (a) poisons imbedded in seeds: nicotinoids (b) ever more efforts to strangle independent farming, the real reason behind the selective prohibition on cattle farming that is vital for organic ag.

Voltara
Voltara
Dec 18, 2025 9:55 PM

The “doomsday seed vault” is just another way to maintain the requisite level of background anxiety and fear our masters rely on.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 18, 2025 9:05 PM

Those that rule the world may be thinking of the return of the 12th planet from its oblong distant orbit which, if this narrative is true, pretty much wiped out all living things on earth due to its impact on our surrounding ice wall (“antarctica”) and the ensuing great flood.

CBL
CBL
Dec 18, 2025 9:45 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Well they’ve done their best to obscure most of the evidence, so who knows what theory they’ve come up with?

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 10:32 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Check out Smiling Friends series ep 6, funny stuff !

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 10:32 PM

series 2 ep 6

CBL
CBL
Dec 18, 2025 11:11 PM

Look out at the sky tonight.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 11:57 PM
Reply to  CBL

Cant, inside looking at screen

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 18, 2025 11:59 PM

lights, moving, you can amplify if you like

CBL
CBL
Dec 19, 2025 12:43 AM

Nothing makes sense if you confine yourself to a digital screen..I can empathise though, cos this is the shit we’re being programmed for.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Dec 19, 2025 4:50 AM
Reply to  CBL

Why do they flop their arms in the air? Looks like a locker full of hanging hamhocks.

shakty
shakty
Dec 18, 2025 8:58 PM

The Secret of the Doomsday Seed Vault
Sock underneath a mans bed….

scott
scott
Dec 18, 2025 8:26 PM

It sure isn’t a secret. I was reading articles about it at least 20 years ago. It is an obvious concern, especially given the tendency of gmo to contaminate the organic farms and the destruction of biodiversity. But what are you going to do about it? WHAT I ask. Nothing changes because people never do. SO greet the moment with your open heart and do like a jun-zi…here is a screed a friend sent me about his daily experience as an ART Bus Driver and work-a-day philosopher.
____________________________________
We’ve completely lost the ability to exert any kind of solidarity. IT’S ALREADY OVER. As a cognoscenti, you can’t change the course of history. You do have box office seats for it, while the rest of the humans can only gasp and wail and wonder WTF is going on?!!?!?!

But here’s some Hollywood programming for you, a little head fake to give the public a phony, imaginary idea about “the people” and what that would even look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAQ9LkftwA
I watch this scene and just chuckle to myself. I see what 3rd class really looks like. There’s no mistaking. We’ve been programmed by Hollywood with the “Noble Savage” BS narrative. 

The people are savages. Lazy, aggressive, territorial, possessive. I feel they deserve to be rounded up into a digital pen-opticon ruled from space. Im with Osho. The people are retarded. 

Using your words … to a jun-zi, it never really mattered what happens in the culture. After all, it’s a voluntary system, always has been. Always will be. You can drop out any time you choose. A jun-zi simply follows Tao, which is their nature. Without effort or intention. 

Someone shot at the ART bus on Monday. This might be a good segue for me to re-apply to solid waste. Or UNM. Or the hospital. 

One of my friends is trying to get me to adopt another dog. She’s playing middleman. I’m very skeptical. They say the dog is 3 years old. It’s clearly over 10 years. What else are they concealing from me? Fucking people (they are Mexicans, which means the dog was abandoned in the back yard for 10 years, and now they see it getting old and they just want to rush out and get a puppy, probably some designer breed of dog). I feel sorry for the dog. I hate the feeling someone’s getting over on me, though. 

One more tidbit: You might be pleased to learn that I am detoxing off meat and all animal products now. Got back on the Fuhrman Nutritarian diet. It’ll be a couple days of detox. Fatigue, runny nose, coughing, irritability. But I’ve got some time opened up in my mornings so I can devote myself to the craft of learning some new recipes. I got a juicer recently and it’s been like a jet pack blasting me into “Nutritional Excellence.” 

John Goss
John Goss
Dec 18, 2025 7:58 PM

One theory about the vault is that the seeds it contains are presumably fertile. In the technocratic age plant food forms will be sterile so ordinary people with allotments, and even small farmers, will no longer be able to purchase fertile seeds. The bank therefore could be a backup in case their own food supply mechanisms failed.

If we cannot grow our own food we are at their mercy. You don’t take the toxic shot – you don’t eat. You don’t have the digital ID implants – you don’t eat. Or as Revelation 13 vv16-17 put it.

“It caused everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free man and slave, to have a mark put on his right hand or forehead, and no one was allowed to buy or sell unless he bore this beast’s mark, name or number.”

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 18, 2025 7:57 PM

If this article is about the only democracy in ME again, I am out on this one.
I’ll instead take you to the candy shop: https://yandex.ru/video/preview/7725831284525161023 .

Aloysius
Aloysius
Dec 18, 2025 7:56 PM

I don’t know. Lots of organisms go extinct. Preserving some of them sounds alright to me. And what doomsday, you ask, are they planning? Well, obviously–nuclear armageddon. Or maybe a plague. The usual suspects. You don’t need a crystal ball or a conspiracy theory.

undergroundpoet
undergroundpoet
Dec 18, 2025 8:54 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

No, just trying to slow the place down some, it has officially gone crazy insane at break neck speed w/ no signs of slowing down..

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Dec 18, 2025 7:09 PM

The Queen’s conscripts showed up in my neck of the woods looking for a permit to collect seeds to be taken back to the Royal Botanic Garden deep freeze in about 2006. I said no. They only wanted the rare stuff. Endangered and threatened species, they said. Then, I said, “fuck no”. Cook County, IL. My number one job as the chief ecologist was to protect endangered and threatened species and the Queen of England wanted the offspring of some of the rarest plants in the Midwest. We did not map their locations. No one could have access to the files. My last instructions to my assistant when I retired was to burn the files if anyone tried to subpoena them. And by no means were they to be added to the GIS mapping system much to the chagrin of our GIS manger. But she understood. Poachers were everywhere then and now. The Queen was no different than a common poacher, as far as I was concerned. When the world goes under they will be ready to do the restoration. The United Nations, that is. Fuck them. They can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut. Crass. I know. Keep in mind that Charles (Prince at the time) helped plan the response to the scamdemic in the Autumn of 2019 at event 201. Still wants to use the UN to become King of the world. What they don’t know won’t hurt them. Oddly, the Feds were working with them on Federal lands. All of my regional colleagues felt the same as I did. I was expecting a phone call to demand that I write the permits. I was prepared to say no. Luckily for me it did not happen.

undergroundpoet
undergroundpoet
Dec 18, 2025 3:44 PM

They already have the blood of the lord on their hands, why would they want more?

antonym
antonym
Dec 18, 2025 10:50 AM

The Doomsday sage comes from the global unconsciousness left over from past civilisational extinctions: Atlantis, Lemuria, x, y?

Sorry folks, not this time. however much North Atlantic warmongers freak out, adults like Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump hold the space.

Even ex-(tra)terrestials (=past Armageddon survivors) chip in and appear zooming through the sky at any activated nuke tipped missile spot. Pakistan, the UK and France come to mind, all run by sociopaths.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 18, 2025 9:06 AM

Thanks James.

The good ole seed vault.
Maybe we could store the bodies of the oligarchs there, as a warning to future generations.

$atan stalks the Earth.
And he/she wears a suit.

Paul
Paul
Dec 18, 2025 6:03 PM
Reply to  Johnny

And he uses “God’s chosen people”

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 18, 2025 6:13 PM
Reply to  Paul

How do you unite the teachings of Christ, himself a Jew, with the forms of prejudice and division you promote in statements like this? A2

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 18, 2025 7:52 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Satan misuse “God’s chosen people” to pretend he is doing the good thing.
Cant you see there is two opposite groups in this scenario?

The maskers and the real ones. The Bible is full of scenarios of ‘be aware not to allow Satan to exploit and misuse you’. ‘Dont cast pearls for swine’, etc.
Israel has a normal population we never hear about.

The Orthodox Jews who only read the ancient text and deny Zionism.
But the big guys (Rockefeller, Rothschild, m.m.) within Zionism dont allow them to be heard. We only hear and see the bad stones and stories.

Jeremiah: ‘All who found them devoured them. Their enemies said, ‘We did nothing wrong in attacking them, for they sinned against the LORD, their true place of rest, and the hope of their ancestors.’

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 18, 2025 10:33 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

@Erik Neilson, @Veri Tas: But I’m just curious how this relates to the teachings of Christ and the concept of the holy trinity, in your view? Did Jesus (logos) mislead us by preaching a message of tolerance and acceptance and not including the important caveat that Jews are the hand of Satan?

Or perhaps you are approaching this from the perspective of a different religion or text, in which case which? A2

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 5:14 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Let me answer you. I myself have been taken off guard sometimes by not reading the actual text in the scriptures, because I too ‘have just heard it through the grape wind’.

But the text in the scriptures are often crystal clear when we read it, thus also our little issue here notwithstanding what Christians, Judaists, Muslims, Zionists, Hindu, or other ID labels are jumping around here on earth and are saying or doing:

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28
“And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.” Acts 15:8–9

“He wants us to place our faith in Him, His wisdom and His ways, not a particular outcome.”

Saying God give a shit for your label or your title, who you are or where you belong. God looks ONLY at your heart…
THIS is the Christus message. Merry Christmas!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 19, 2025 12:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You can’t get a better holiday message!! 🎄

And so this really knocks all the “Jews are servants of Satan” stuff on the head then, I guess?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 9:52 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

YES! Off the table.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 20, 2025 9:06 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

As for me, I have searched and searched, and can’t find any evidence of a living Jesus Christ. In The Christ Conspiracy by DM Murdock, for example, she writes that the term Christos was mentioned in early Egypt and meant the “anointed” one…, and that during the periods of Augustus and Tiberius, an exceptionally well-documented era, no contemporary writer knew of and wrote about Jesus’ existence.

However, I think Jesus may serve as a meaningful symbolic figure who taught truthfulness, rightful living and compassion. That would do me. My religiousness only extends to the belief that there is a “god” or some sort of creative energy, since I fully dismiss the notions of creation of something out of nothing by pure chance, and the evolution of the diversity of living beings from some atomic matter (adaptation, yes, evolution, no!).

Not sure if that answers your question?

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 18, 2025 9:47 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It’s the Zionist Jews who are the racists, not those calling out their obvious hatred of everyone not in their camp.
“By positioning itself as an impregnable authority on all matters Jewish, [the Zionist lobby] has elevated itself into a faction having the right to lay down the law about its ‘god given’ right to a despotic form of control over others.” – Julian Rose

In the same article, Rose also cites the Jewish scholar, Rabbi Yaakor Shapiro, author of the famous work ‘The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft’, who stated “Zionism is the enemy of Judaism – and a Zionist is the exact diametrical opposite of a Jew”.

The term ‘Zionist’ may be fairly new but this exclusionary and wrathful sect has existed for a couple of thousand years. Here’s a more in-depth analysis of their supremacist beliefs and how much of the Jewish and the entire Christian culture actually embraced this adulterated belief system: Yahweh, the god of murder.
 

Aloysius
Aloysius
Dec 18, 2025 10:28 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Divisa et impera.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 5:45 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Listened to half part of your link. It is old stuff.

why this, and why that’, asked inquisitive Tom. But one day it became to much for inquisitive Tom’s mommy who slammed his butt and put him into bed without soda pop and candy.’

If we wanna grow in wisdom and claim a right to adult intellectual discussion, we have to admit the milestones reached.
No serious Scientist or professor today are in doubt that we and our surroundings are created by some divine force we call God.

The finding of the dna as life’s building stone erased the last doubt for everybody and is considered the final proof of Design.

It means we have now a platform which says there is without doubt a God!

So now what? Will somebody claim looking at art full us and our surroundings, the animals, our beautiful nature, that this God is evil and is stupid and that we could do this much better?? This doesnt fit!

But this is precisely the whole basic story and dilemma in the Scriptures.
Neither you nor the link gives an answer, you only have questions.

But the Scriptures gives it all for free if your heart is open and loving.

undergroundpoet
undergroundpoet
Dec 19, 2025 4:59 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I guess it all depends on who you are, for there are no gods in the universe able to stop the evil coming after me and…., its a fight until the end.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 19, 2025 10:17 PM

I know what you mean. But there exist a peace inside no matter how the situation looks like outside.

Pray to God by sincere heart and ask him to guide you toward his will. Continue with firm sincere insistence for as long as it takes.

The prayer has an enormous power for those who do it sincerely.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 19, 2025 9:24 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I have no doubt about some kind of intelligent design – call it God, if you like.

However, to me, the story of the Bible pretty much exactly mirrors what Zecharia Sitchin documents in The Earth Chronicles as the story of two rival half-brothers (the theme comes up again and again in all religious texts), one the evil one who wants to wipe out human-kind, the other the more benign one who allowed human-kind to survive the great flood. Guess under whose influence we live today?
It is these false gods, the two brothers, one of whom was murdered, plus one half-sister, the scientist, who created man in their image. They were not gods but they too were created.

The great creator is unknowable and certainly amorphous and, I believe until proven otherwise, without a human-like intent based on good and evil.

Some research points to the aether / plasma (pre-atomic matter) as the origin of all creation….

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 20, 2025 12:15 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I dont think we can go beyond God. We have enough to do down here still not having gone more than to the atmosphere.
You know, we are still not out of the moon landing hoax yet.

But I see the divine math given, it fits logical into it all. Yes the divine dilemma between evil and good, Satan hating Jesus, is mirrored down here in many instances. But why not?
It would be logical.

The overall and universal Love Commandment fits also in.
God created humans with love. All our surroundings, flowers, nature, forests, sea, lakes, moon, the beauty bear witness about gifts giving in love to joy our human lives.

Down here mother and father create children in love.
Like our equal divine we also in love first give birth and create a human, and then we in love give gifts to our children for their happiness, until they themselves are able to create, give and receive love.
Like we give love, we receive love, and we must off course return this love in order for the circle to be fulfilled.

I promised on these pages here to return when I have found out why it took 2000 years to get to Armageddon, as not only Jesus says it would happen in his generation, and further we are a few impatient during this time who would like to see the nightmare stop.

So far I found that Armageddon already too place as written in the Scriptures. The Temple was destroyed as predicted by Christ in 70AD, and Christ did his thousands years down here afterwards.

So what we now experience should be Satan’s 2’nd release, and we are the crowd getting a last chance.

I am not fully finished with that one, but at least the Scriptures then fits in what it says. A little more work and I expect to be there.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 18, 2025 11:18 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

You mean, like Trump supporters? The teachings of Christ apparently aren’t what we’ve been led to believe, just ask them. Hate and division are what Jesus would do according to them.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 19, 2025 12:27 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Well, if so that’s on Trump supporters, isn’t it? Is that sort of whataboutism very helpful? Surely the teachings of Christ compel us to forgive Trumpists, and Jews, and Muslims, and white people and lawyers and our parents and everyone?

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 19, 2025 4:43 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

If you believe in that shit, maybe so. I don’t. Religions are just man made bullshit. Been there, done that. And the whataboutism applies to just about all, Trump supporters or not. If the others felt differently, like you, they’d be calling them out for trashing those so called teachings. But I don’t see much of that. No more hypocritical than they. They deserve to be called out at every turn imo.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 7:27 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Well that does at least explain how you’re so easily manipulable into any anti-Semitic stance that’s going. Thanks for the ‘big’ insight

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 19, 2025 8:18 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

LOL, man.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 19, 2025 8:37 PM
Reply to  Big Al
Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 21, 2025 5:56 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Forgiveness must follow heart-felt contrition, apology and redress. Otherwise, there can be not forgiveness for vile crimes.

antonym
antonym
Dec 19, 2025 6:49 AM
Reply to  Paul

You prefer to be a Kafir under Is-lame? Being a woman isn’t fun there either.

At least these self chosen people do not proselytize as opposed to many other ideologies except for Buddhism and Hinduism. Many were converted under a sword and today under free education / healthcare with a Cro$s.