… Interviewer: You wrote, I think in 1997, in your book about The Grand Chessboard … this same phrase which I wrote down about Russia with Ukraine is an empire and Russia without Ukraine is more of an European country. But given that Eastern Ukraine is mostly occupied by Russian supportive forces, would you call Russia semi-empire or —
Brzezinski: [laughs] … Russia right now is an aspiring empire …
… We really need to strike a balance between a policy in which we offer Russia a policy of accommodation — genuine accommodation — and at the same time convince Russia that crossing certain lines is prohibitively expensive — for Russia itself. … There is the risk that the Russians might calculate, or rather, miscalculate, that they may seek more than that’s tolerable, and that would produce unpredictable consequences. This is why I favor deterrence, including reliance on force if necessary, and accommodation, for instance reassurance to the Russians that it is not our intent or objective to make Ukraine a member of NATO. but rather something like Finland. …
This was a top level interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the reputed éminence grise of Washington foreign policy, and Ursula von der Leyen, Germany’s Minister of Defense, conducted by Steven Erlanger, London Bureau Chief of The New York Times, in this year’s edition of The Brussels Forum, “an annual high-level meeting of the most influential North American and European political, corporate, and intellectual leaders to address pressing challenges currently facing both sides of the Atlantic”, held between March 20 and 22.
For her part, der Leyen states categorically that “we have decided in Europe” that “the solution [to the conflict with Russia] will be on the negotiating table, not on the killing field.”
The excerpts quoted are from the video starting at 30:00.
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At the first news of Brzezinski’s apparent call for a rational and fair modification of the American foreign policy towards Russia, I had a moment or so of actual hope. Now that I’ve heard and read what this inveterate Russophobe’s proposal really is, I very much doubt it’ll get any purchase in Moscow. In essence, what Brzezinski’s latest intervention boils down to is the issuance of a public call on Obama to drop the bankrupt and corrupt Ukraine like the hot potato it is and — instead — go for Finland.
Why would Russia see that as anything but yet another NATO expansionist move and one aimed at getting yet more of the NATO/USA ballistic missiles directed at it — less than a minute away from its borders?
He deserves to be on trial at the Hague and not treated like a celebrity.
These freaks in high office and casually talk about war as if it’s nothing. He makes me sick!
American voters have lost their sanity, easily manipulated and non- questioning of their disastrous role in the world