from Moon of Alabama
A new Wall Street Journal piece, primarily about the ISIS held city of Raqqa on the Euphrates, casts doubt on long term U.S. plans for such an occupation. Its core quote:
“We won’t be in Raqqa in 2020, but the regime will be there.”
There were already doubts that a big U.S. move in east-Syria was really going to happen. Jordan opposes any such move. While the U.S. and Jordan have trained, equipped and paid Syrian “rebels” to hold a zone of control in south-west Syria, little preparations have been seen for a large move in the south-east.
The U.S. has so far vetted and trained at most 2,000 local Arab fighters in the area. Fewer are ready to go. Even with U.S. special forces embedded with them these forces are way too small to take an ISIS defended city or to capture or to hold a significant area. At least ten to twenty thousand troops would be needed (likely more) for such an endeavor. The current force is probably only tasked with taking a few border stations to close down the border between Syria and Iraq. (A move that Syrian and Iraqi forces will try to prevent.)
The upcoming taking of Raqqa by U.S. forces and its Kurdish proxies is now endorsed by the Syrian government and its Russian allies. It seems that an agreement has been made without any public announcement. This agreement may well extend to the other eastern areas south of Raqqa. From the WSJ:
The SDF is now the only ground force with both U.S. and Syrian government approval in the fight against Islamic State as the offensive on Raqqa draws near. The group has long co-existed with the Syrian government, unlike U.S.- backed factions that Damascus deems terrorists in light of their goal to oust President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
U.S. President Donald Trump has made clear he opposes the expensive nation-building missions that have historically accompanied U.S. counterterrorism operations to support local governments and prevent insurgents from returning.
For these reasons, Western diplomats say the post-capture plan is for the SDF to hand over the administration of Raqqa to a local civilian council friendly to the Syrian regime. That council could eventually transfer control of the city back to the regime, these diplomats said.
On Thursday, Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said Moscow supports the formation of local councils to administer territory taken from Islamic State but said they must not circumvent the Syrian government’s authority, in comments carried by Interfax news agency.
“The U.S. military will be going in [to Raqqa] and trying to figure out who the tribal leaders are,” said an American official involved in the anti-Islamic State campaign. “The regime knows these details. They have a natural home-field advantage and have a way of slowly getting back in. We won’t be in Raqqa in 2020, but the regime will be there.”
Those are unexpected words under two aspects. First – a U.S. government official acknowledges, for the first time, that control of the area will go back to the Syrian government and second – Syrian and Russian officials are informed of and agree with these U.S. plans.
A member of the currently selected Raqqa civilian council denied that the Syrian government will take charge but I doubt that she would be informed of such a high level issue.
It is likely that this scheme extends to other parts of south-east-Syria and even to the north-eastern Kurdish held areas. U.S. Gulf allies and Israel would like the U.S. to occupy the east and to “block” a “Shia crescent” that reaches from Iran through Iraq and Syria to Hizbullah in Lebanon. But any U.S. position there would be a hostile occupation which would have to fight off Syrian government forces, local Arab resistance, remnants of ISIS and Shia militia from Iraq. The “Shia crescent” is anyway a chimera. Iran was well able to supply Hizbullah in Lebanon even as Iraq was occupied by U.S. forces.
At that time the road from Iran to Syria was blocked, the alleged “Shia crescent” was interrupted but supplies to Hizbullah still flowed unhindered. Turkey, a U.S. NATO ally, will never agree to a Kurdish statelet in north-east Syria. Even a somewhat autonomous Kurdish area will only be tolerated if the Syrian government is in supreme control of it. A U.S. occupied zone in the landlocked Syrian east is of no strategic value to the U.S. It is surrounded by potential enemies and it would permanently require significant military resources. A return to Syrian government control is the best alternative.
But despite a likely agreement the Syrian government forces will continue their moves towards the east. The U.S. can not be trusted. In September 2016 a ceasefire and cooperation deal was agreed upon between Secretary of State Kerry and the Russian government. The fight against ISIS would be coordinate between all countries, including Syria. The U.S. military sabotaged the deal by launching air attacks on Syrian government forces in Deir Ezzor which were besieged by ISIS. This enabled ISIS to take a significant part of the government held areas there and to nearly eliminate all those forces. The U.S.-Russian agreement fell apart.
Any agreement with the U.S. that ISIS areas in Syria will fall back to government control, independent of who liberated them, should be welcome. Military hawks in the Trump administration, the sectarian Gulf countries as well as Israel will try to interrupt such a move. The Syrian government and its allies must therefore continue their own operations and liberate as many ares as possible by themselves. They must stay aware that a Trump administration might, at any time, revert to the old plan of establishing a “Salafist principality” in the area – even when such an unruly proxy would make little sense for it.
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Nope. The US doesn’t mind staying forever. They’re still in Germany and Japan FFS.
That was after the defeat & destruction of Germany & Japan, neither of which now offer resistance. Occupying the ME has so far been the opposite, viz Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, where fighting has never abated.
US plans, US forces in Syria, US this, US that, yada yada yada !
Perhaps Moon of Alabama should mention that if the US was in Syria, then they would be violating international law, which the robust international legal community would never allow. The US has no legal justification to be anywhere near Syria, or other sovereign countries.
Two of the world’s oldest cities, Damascus & Aleppo, were doing fine, before the CIA showed up ! As was much of Southwest Asia, before the US sponsored foreign mercenaries arrived.
Yankee go home to your northern American hell-hole.
Fine sentiments but useless against a gun. The difference is that Syrians are fighting for their lives, ISIS is fighting for money, the US is just visiting and will soon leave. The Syrians will prevail.
The U.S. don’t need Raqqah, they only need the land channel from Iraq through to Turkey, for their gas pipeline into Europe, from Qatar, and the oil line from Kurdish Iraq.
This is the only reason they are genuine, this time, in backing the Kurds in their hunger for a homeland. It’s also Israel’s only motivation for the same: promoting the concept of a Kurdish homeland, while denying the Palestinians exactly the same.
Raqqah is not needed for this, but al-Tabqa is for the extortion aspect.
Sorry guys, not buying this report. Apart from the last two paragraphs and the clause “America can’t be trusted” it is speculative. Speculative and based on a WSJ article, “Western diplomats said”, “said an American official…” Sure, there will be a regime in Raqqa in 2020, but which one?
Also, even from my armchair journalist POV, Raqqa is close to the Tabqa dam, control that and you can cut off the industrial resurgence and rebuilding in Aleppo with a flick of a switch – that is quite strategic I’d say. As for a remote redoubt in enemy territory – anyone looked at the US ‘Embassy’ in Bagdhad? If they want to stay, they will.
IMO, a broader and more in depth review of the current situation in Syria is Patrick Henningson’s (link to 21 Wire at bottom of page). He’s not long back from Syria, and his report carries an insight into the reconciliation process – not something you are going to read in the MSM. ‘Brutal dictator’ rehabilitates former terrorists back into society – doesn’t fit the narrative lies.
Or never afraid to mince his words, Ziad Fadel tells it how it is.
There’s also the small problem of a seeming build up of US/UK forces on the Jordanian border, south of Daraa. I say seeming, because according to Mike Robinson (UK Column News) an FCO spox has told him that these are not US/UK vehicles, but ones that Jordan has bought and parked “provocatively” on the Syrian border? Well, I’m chilled to the bone with that reassurance! So why are the 5th Legion of the SAA fighting a precautionary action to prevent an incursion (or a resurgence of the battle for “Death Rather than Humiliation” as the terrorists catchily called it?)
Peace or a negotiated settlement (with America as only an observer) are not in the Neocon lexicon. As much as I or anyone else may want peace for the Syrian people, this war could go two ways – escalation into a proxy global confrontation; or fragmentation into guerrilla warfare. Either way, the US Imperium is not going to pack up and go home. I rather suspect the regime in Raqqa in 2020 will be a US proxy (SDF?) For the people of Syria, I do hope I am wrong.
“The U.S. has so far vetted and trained at most 2,000 local Arab fighters in the area.”
The US military admitted to congress that they had spent $500 million training an unspeciified number of ‘carefully vetted moderate rebels’. The strnegth of the ‘vetting’ process is clearly indicated by the fact that all but 5 of those trained defected to al Qaeda.