Why is the US Air Force collecting samples of Russian DNA?


The US Air Force recently put out a request for samples of DNA and RNA from Russians and people of Russian descent. Their reasons are unclear. This story, fairly predictably, has got very little coverage in the MSM…none, in fact. Vladimir Putin mentioned it in a speech, and there have been articles in the alternative media (The Duran and Zero Hedge have mentioned it, and some international networks such as RT, teleSur etc.)…but mainstream news? Totally silent.
This is not some “crazy conspiracy theory”, the request (pictured above) is publicly available on US government websites.
The lack of coverage of this issue in the MSM, while predictable, still serves to highlight how little objectivity our notionally free press really have. Can you imagine the headlines if Russia, China or Iran’s military had started doing research on British or American DNA samples?
The hysteria would be deafening.
So the question becomes…why? The memo states that the samples “must be Caucasian and Russian”, and that they will “not consider” samples from Ukraine. Why would that be the case? People are theorizing it’s for bio-weapons research, and that’s possible, there are other possibilities too.
None of them are benign.
We were sent the following open letter from Alexander Korobko, the director of Russia’s DNA Project, by a third-party. In it Mr Korobko asks all the important questions. We will let you know if any of them ever receive official answers.

Mr. Marcus Mattingly, US Air Force.
Cc: Mr. Donald Trump
Synovial Tissue / RNA Samples
Solicitation Number: FA3016-17-U-0164
Dear Mr. Mattingly,
I am a Russian journalist researching the aforementioned solicitation.
DNA analysis and archaeogenetics are somewhat of a home turf to me. My documentary about the Russian genetic origins of ancient Orcadians (the inhabitants of the Orkney Islands north of Scotland) was broadcast in several countries and has won a few awards. I owe that also to a top geneticist from Cambridge University who assisted me in my research.
I am very much puzzled with your solicitation. The situation is on the brink of a major international scandal. The US Air Force faces accusations of either developing bioweapons or practicing eugenics and, God forbid, of following in the footsteps of infamous Dr. Mengele. In the interests of fairness, I would like to offer your Department a chance to explain the nature of that solicitation.
Also, I would be grateful if you or your colleagues would kindly provide answers to the following questions:
1. The genetic pool in Russia is very diverse. People who look 100% “Caucasian” can have past “contributing” ethnicities ranging from, say, Iran/India to central Russia to a tribe in Yakutiya. For example, our Defence Minister Shoygu has a mixture of a Tuvan/Turkic Y-chromosome and a Slavic Russian mtDNA. A conspiracy theorist may even argue that it would be easier to design an “ethnic” weapon targeting his US counterpart, Mr. James Mattis since his both parents are from the same genetic pool, but even his more distant ancestors can comprise various surprising ethnicities from all over the place.
So, are you trying to develop a “targeted” genetic weapon against the Russians if such a thing is scientifically feasible at all?
2. Why do you need my compatriots’ synovial tissue? And why do you insist on samples from Russia, but not from Ukraine, as ethnically/genetically those are the same people?! I can provide you with plenty of conclusive genetic info to that effect.
3. Is the US Airforce being used as a tool in a psyop, a provocation? My consultant from Cambridge University can’t quite wrap his head around your tender, and there’s a feeling it may be a jeer wrapped in an enigma. In that case it would a very bad joke, a Nazi kind of humour, really.
4. Your spokesman explained that “the researchers are using the samples to conduct musculoskeletal research aimed at identifying the different biomarkers associated with injury and were not targeting Russians with the study”. The explanation was somewhat vague, so let me try to re-construct in no-nonsense terms and let me know if I understood him correctly. So some US company (which you can’t name, right?) sold you the first set of samples? You don’t know if they acquired them legally or illegally in Russia, but it was Russia because that’s where they could get them, could be any country, right? But now you (i.e. the US Airforce) need some supplementary biological “material”, which has to be from the same country to match the original samples? One problem there: you haven’t specified the part of Russia where the original stuff comes from, and as Russians’ DNA groups vary from one region to another often more widely than, say, from country to country in the EU, the tender is either unscientific as far as genetics go, or the explanation doesn’t make much sense, scientifically speaking…. which is it?
Looking forward to hearing from you and clearing up the matter, which has the potential of sparking a media equivalent of the Caribbean crisis.
With kindest regards,
Alexander Korobko
CEO, Russia’s DNA project

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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I think there is too much read into this. This is a spoof to enter information stream. Its basic goal is division between Ukrainians and Russians. (note the “not Ukrainian DNA” in the request). I really doubt that there is DNA difference between most Ukrainians and Russians. This is similar to another request made by US Navy soliciting construction companies in Sevastopol, Crimea right before the whole thing unraveled in 2014. Goal then was enticing Russia into conflict. See link (www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=2bb691b61c59be3a68180bd8c614a0cb&tab=core&_cview=1)

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Matt

Classic case of blaming the victim. Russian government and media distort the harmless reality of Russian DNA samples being given to the U.S….. and somehow, it’s the fault of the U.S. that an anti-American psychological warfare was launched by Russia, involving endless claims of “bioweapons” targeting the country using American facilities in Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, etc., and, of course, these new “genetic bioweapon” claims. The U.S. government was not the one to make a fuss about this. It was Russia. So what sort of convoluted logic have you used to reach the conclusion that this was an American provocation to… Read more »

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pasha

Lol @ harmless collection of DNA samples. My logic is pretty simple and its basis is that US has a strategic goal of dismembering Russia. Look at captive nations legislation that Trump renewed. Every US action has to be viewed from that perspective.

Matt
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Matt

Nothing you’ve stated proves anything you’ve claimed. In an above I post, I quoted three highly-distuingished Russian scientists, some of whom work in Russian government-funded institutes, who debunked this entire story. They know far more than you or me. Further, there is simply zero evidence that the U.S. collected these DNA samples for harmful purposes. Saying “the US has a strategic goal of dismembering Russia” is not a replacement for evidence. You can’t blame the U.S. for something it never did just by saying that. Here is what the Russian scientists said to debunk this hoax: Mikhail Davydov, the head… Read more »

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And similarly there is zero evidence that US weapons build up around Russia (NATO) is done with harmful intent. Zero evidence that all the heavy war-mongering propaganda has any bearing on any of this. Zero evidence that spying on world-wide citizen communications has any relevance to this story. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. You know, Freedom.
Connecting the dots is only for conspiracy theorists.
Is this what you agree with?

Pasha
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Pasha

You didn’t read carefully what I said. I said that this is another element of information warfare. Its practical value is questionable as most scientists agree. Its primary goal is to agitate information space between Russia and Ukraine and its pretty effective and fits well with hostile strategy of USA that I cited.

Matt
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Matt

Hello Pasha, At this point, we have established that the U.S. is not developing “genetic bioweapons” using these Russian DNA samples. I think we are in agreement here. I did read your original comment. This is what it said: “Its basic goal is division between Ukrainians and Russians. (note the “not Ukrainian DNA” in the request). ” I once again can not comprehend how you manage to blame an anti-American smear campaign on the U.S., who you claim wants to “agitate [the] information space between Russia and Ukraine”, all because of a single sentence in the contractor request, which mentioned… Read more »

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Pasha

Russia is enemy as defined by recent sanction laws passed. Check.
US is soliciting DNA samples from enemy.
Check.
Enemy is questioning the motive behind intent of the solicitation.
Matt’s response: Why are you worried? You are just our enemy, and we are good guys..
Matt, you are a moron and by length of your posts I see this is a full time job for you.

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Matt

Hello Pasha, Once again, you are using poor deductive reasoning to guess that somehow, the U.S. is at fault here. The correct logic goes more like this: U.S. AF has many reseach labs to study debilitating diseases, mainly to help sick American soldiers improve performance. Check. U.S. AF asks a contractor to provide a special form of DNA samples for an experiment. Check. Contractor supplies DNA samples, for a fee. The samples come from Russia, chosen at random, without the U.S. AF specifically asking for them. Check Months later, U.S. AF has to perform additional experiments to compare with previous… Read more »

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pasha

“Contractor supplies DNA samples, for a fee. The samples come from Russia, chosen at random, without the U.S. AF specifically asking for them. Check”
false.. USAF specifically wants samples from Russia.

vierotchka
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Harmless? My foot! If it is harmless, you’re the Empress of China in drag.

Matt
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Matt

Hello vierotchka, So far, nobody has presented evidence to prove that there is anything remotely harmful about this. Well-educated Russian scientists have themselves ridicued this notion of a genetic bioweapon and have explained that this collection is entirely harmless. The only reason Russians were mentioned is because the contractor supplied Russian DNA samples as test data. I myself have explained the difference between a genetic bioweapon and a bioweapon manufactured using genetic engineering. So, back to square one: anything to substaniate these claims? No. None. Zero. Not even a little bit. In other words, baseless accusations that have been repeated… Read more »

vierotchka
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Why not get these DNA samples from the over 2.95 million Russians and Americans of pure Russian descent living in the USA, instead?

Matt
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Matt

As I said, it was the contractor that the U.S. government contracted with that decided to do this. Regarding Russians in America, the reason is obvious: you would have to confirm that these are pure ethnic Russians, and this is far harder than simply going to Russia and finding some people.
Actually, your question can be used to disprove what you are claiming. If this data is indeed being collected to make a “genetic bioweapon”, then it would be easier to just take data from ethnic Russians in America instead of Russians in another country.

vierotchka
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“Regarding Russians in America, the reason is obvious: you would have to confirm that these are pure ethnic Russians” — Hah, that is the very reason why the US needs to go to Russia in order to get the genetic information in order to develop a bioweapon! Thanks!

Matt
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Matt

I don’t get your logic here. If the U.S. wanted to discreetly make a bioweapon to target ethnic Russians, then it wouldn’t mind the extra work of verifyng whether the DNA samples from Russian-Americanas were of pure Russians. But if what I am saying is true, namely, that the contractor hired by the Air Force didn’t want to go through this hassle so it simply went to Russia, then it does indeed debunk this hoax. After all this back and forth, multiple examples given by me pointing out the lack of evidence, lack of logic, lack of “genetic bioweapons”, and… Read more »

vierotchka
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Which well-educated Russian scientists have ridicued this notion of a genetic bioweapon and have explained that this collection is entirely harmless? Links please (from credible sources). In what other country or countries is the US collecting DNA and for what reason?

Matt
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Matt

These ones: https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/is-the-us-suddenly-targeting-russians-with-bio-weapons-59464 Excerpts: Mikhail Davydov, the head of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, told The Moscow Times that there was nothing new about how Russian samples were being collected. “This has been going on for twenty years,” he said, adding that the practice was reciprocal. “We send material to various countries, and they send material to us.” But could RNA interference be used to target the Russian ethnic group? Konstantin Severinov, a professor of molecular biology and biochemistry at the Skolkovo Institute of Science and Technology and Rutgers University in the U.S., says it would be “impossible.” “For… Read more »

vierotchka
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“Most countries collect DNA samples of others. It’s a normal part of research.” – Using their military? Pure excreta bovines.

Matt
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Matt

The U.S. military is arguably the largest research institution in the world. And the biggest employer as well. Many things are researched and developed by the military, most of which trickle down to the civilian realm in a few years. Thus, just because it’s the U.S. military that is funding and conducting this research, doesn’t prove that the intent is nefarious whatsoever. Militaries around the world have advanced research institutes to research debilitating diseases. DNA samples are sometimes required for this. I have enjoyed our respecftul discussion. I think it’s time to call it a day, unless a geneticist here… Read more »

vierotchka
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The Moscow Times is not a credible source – it belongs to anti-Russians in the Netherlands, it is closel connected to the fifth column that seeks to sell out Russia to the USA.

Matt
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Matt

Hello vierotchka,
I knew you would use this excuse. The problem with your logic is that regardless of the website, the remarks of the three distinguished Russian scientists are still true.
This is a class “attack the source” fallacy, where you are unable to address the argument set forth by the three Russian scientists, so you ignore what they say and attack the source.
I supplied examples of three Russian scientists debunking this hoax. Do you have anything to say about their statements? Please don’t ignore them.

Matt
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Matt

I posted some lengthy comments yesterday, but they haven’t showed up.

Big B
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Big B

Reading the comments below (mainly Matt’s): the question arises as to whether the US Military would weaponise and deploy a virus against targeted members of a population? The overwhelming conclusion to be drawn from the AMERITHRAX case (immediately post 9/11) is YES – they would. Persons unknown: with access (probably to the Dugway Proving Ground – NOT Ft Detrich) and beyond Top Secret security clearance; obtained and targeted at least two Congressmen, various journalists, and members of the public (associated with the alleged hijackers) with weaponised anthrax. FACT. [So Matt] – if you want to believe Dr Bruce Ivins weaponised… Read more »

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Hello Big B, You are talking about a different matter altogether, one that does not prove or disprove the current claims of the U.S. harvesting Russian DNA samples to make a “bioweapon”. But even using the AMERITHRAX case as a premise, I would have to disagree that the U.S. military was behind it and deliberately deployed it. Irvins was indeed mentally ill, and even wrote letters in code, with the hidden message expressing his hatred of NY and a former colleague. Regarding “no one noticing”, records show that he spent an unusual amount of time at night in his high-security… Read more »

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Hi Matt. It’s a highly technical argument: not one I would attempt to do justice to – but the likelihood of Ivins drying, electrostatically charging, and micro-encapsulating anthrax spores alone in his lab is less than zero. I would refer you to Graeme MacQeens book on the subject – The 2001 Anthrax Deception: The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy [ISBN-13: 978-0986073120.] Talking of strawmen: you type a lot but fail to address the main point I made – that the US military is capable of targeting its own citizens for political purposes. 5 or 500: that’s state sanctioned murder and… Read more »

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Matt

Hello Big B, Thank you for the link. I have not read the book, but from reading summaries, it seems the author tries to use deductive logic to arrive at his central thesis, instead of evidence. Just because neocons used the attacks to demonize Iraq, doesn’t mean they were the ones behind the attacks. I would like to reiterate that I don’t believe the U.S. military was behind the AMERITHRAX attacks. There’s simply no evidence backing this statement up, other than insinuations of cui bono. I’m glad we’re in agreement there. “Where we would differ, is that I don’t assume… Read more »

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Big B

Hi Matt. The problem with evidence is that can only lead so far. Even court cases deal with deductive reasoning and logic; to augment and draw inference from the balance, weight and probability of evidence. You could say the verdict is speculative: or you could say that the evidence points only to one logical conclusion. As I have already stated: there is only one logical conclusion to be drawn – the American military targeted their own population to create a climate of fear in order to advance a series of otherwise unjustifiable wars. If they can do that: they can… Read more »

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Hello Big B, ” I don’t know why you think we are in agreement: because I infer that the only possible conclusion is that the US military did it.” I made an additional post to correct my previous one, to clarify that I was talking about us being in agreement regarding the fact that the AF is not creating genetic weapons to target Russians. Regarding the AMERITHRAX attacks, I do not think it is logical to state that just because the U.S. used these attacks to demonize Iraq, that this means it was the U.S. military. If I were a… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

http://911review.com/attack/imgs/anthrax_note.jpg Hand written content of one of the letters. These were sent a week after 9/11: no big controversy there. They were clearly intended to be viewed as a second wave of attacks (by Ivins?) That was the original story. What is interesting is that story began to circulate BEFORE October 3rd. And sales of Cipro (an anthrax antidote spiked in that period.) And the exact scenario was drilled in operation ‘Dark Winter’ three months prior to the attacks: which simulated an bioweapons attack on several of the people who later were actually attacked (most notably Judith Miller.) Coincidence, huh???… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

One more thing: you claimed in an earlier post that the letter indicated foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. But if the letter was found in October, then it obviously happened after 9/11. So it doesn’t indicate this at all.

Matt
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Matt

Hello Big B, There are several incorrect statements in your post. The letter whose contents you described was found by the FBI in mid-October. Further, a few days before the letter was found, Bush remarked on a photo editor at the Sun tabloid getting infected, by saying “it’s just an isolated incident”. Hardly sounds like fearmongering. Further, Judith Miller was never attacked by a bioweapon. It was a hoax letter that she was sent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller#Anthrax_hoax_victim “it wasn’t that Daschle and Leahy opposed the Patriot Act (they didn’t) – it was that they wanted to slow down its passage.” So this… Read more »

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Matt

Whoops, sorry, meant to say “I’m glad we’re in agreement there” regarding the fact that we agree the AF is not creating genetic weapons to target Russians.

Big B
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Big B

Also [Matt]: Cyber Berkut hacked emails and documents between Poroshenko and Soros in 2015. In the published memos: Soros talks of his plans for [his] “new” Ukraine – including providing “lethal assistance” to “restore the fighting capacity” the Kiev neo-Nazi junta. In recent months: Soros’ agent, John McCain (in his role of Chairman of the Armed Services Committee) authorised the markup of $500m for “lethal defensive” weapons for Ukraine. So does “disinformation” sometimes come true: or is this just a coincidence???
https://cyber-berkut.org/en/olden/index6.php
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FY18%20NDAA%20summary2.pdf

Matt
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Matt

Hello Big B, CyberBerkut has been confirmed to spread disinformation. I’ve been examining their antics for a while. I have been researching the group that edited documents to try and make the popular anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny, look like a Soros/CIA puppet. The name of the group is CyberBerkut and it emerged around the annexation of Crimea in March, 2014. It purports to be a pro-Russian Ukrainian hacking group, that supports the Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine. However, it can be stated with high confidence that this group is actually a disinformation front for Russian intelligence. Basically, this isn’t the… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

Whoops, sorry, I meant for separate the links into sections, but the lines didn’t appear.

Big B
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Big B

Matt: you talk all around the point. Did Cyber-Berkut hack the FY18 NDAA? Because if they didn’t: it seems like an awful coincidence to me that the UkroNazis are going to get their lethal assistance.

Matt
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Matt

Hello Big B, My original point still stands: CyberBerkut is a disinformation entity, that has a habit of either hacking real files and then editing them, or pretending to hack something from somewhere, but in reality, merely having created the files themselves. I gave many examples of them doing this above (took a while!). The link by the Canadian Citizen Lab is extremely in-depth, comparing the true content of some hacked emails with the edited versions put out by CyberBerkut. Regarding the Soros documents, the leak of Soros’ Open Soviety Foundation was performed them and then the files were also… Read more »

Cherrycoke
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Cherrycoke

This reminds me of:
‘And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.’
Project for a New American Century, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”
Not to mention the Cabazon Indian Reservation…

Matt
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Matt

I know I’ll get downvoted for daring to say this, but whatever: This post is a perfect example of the disingenuous pro-Kremlin propaganda spread here. Yes, this is a conspiracy theory and the U.S. Air Force has already debunked it. The MSM did indeed cover it and debunked it too. Too bad you didn’t notice. https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2017/11/02/how-a-pentagon-research-project-convinced-vladimir-putin-of-a-coming-biowar/ I have to laugh at the “letter” and it’s hysterical statements, like this: ” either developing bioweapons or practicing eugenics and, God forbid, of following in the footsteps of infamous Dr. Mengele.” “So, are you trying to develop a “targeted” genetic weapon against the… Read more »

vierotchka
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Harry Stotle
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Harry Stotle

“There’s no such thing as a “genetic bioweapon” – yes, there is. “Today, nearly all countries have the technological potential to produce large amounts of pathogenic microorganisms safely. Second, classical biowarfare agents can be made much more efficiently than their natural counterparts, with even the simplest genetic techniques. Third, with modern biotechnology it becomes possible to create completely new biological weapons. And for technical and/or moral reasons, they might be more likely to be used than classical biowarfare agents. These possibilities have generated new military desires around the world, including within those countries that have publicly renounced biological weapons in… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

Hello Harry,
That link discusses genetically-manufactured bioweapons, not “genetic” bioweapons. This is an important distinction, because there is a difference between the manufacturing process of a bioweapon and its mode of action. I made the same point to vierotchka.

Harry Stotle
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Harry Stotle

Surely its a semantic point in the context of this post, Matt? If one country is collecting genetic data to modify bioweapons (to make them more lethal) then surely it is moot to suggest that category distinction is a particularly significant issue, or outside of a purely technical debate relevant at all when either way the concern raised here pertains to extracting biological data about a population in order to damage them more efficiently? In other words it is the collection of such data that has inspired this post, whereas, and alost by definition, its precise use will be somewhat… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

Hello Harry, “If one country is collecting genetic data to modify bioweapons (to make them more lethal)….” The premise of your assumption is without evidence, so one can not merely ignore anything based off of this assumption. Do we know for a fact that the U.S. collected Russian DNA samples to make bioweapons more lethal? So far, the Russian government has not supplied any evidence. They have previously lied about a mythical American bioweapons factory in Georgia. They claimed the facility, which has been accredited by WHO and has nothing to do with bio weapons, has rejected requests by Russian… Read more »

vierotchka
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Matt
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Matt

Your first two links discuss genetically-engineered bioweapons, not genetic bioweapons. Those articles talk about the process. Last link is just an op-ed.

vierotchka
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Same difference.

Matt
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Matt

No. One is the manufacturing process of a bioweapon and the other is the method of attack by a bioweapon. Those articles talk about the former, while Russia is lying about the U.S.. making the latter.

Les
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Les

They’re inquiring, not lying. The governments probably all are, not just the US and Russians. In any event, the government solicitation is enough to raise alarm.
I suspect this is probably just a cheap way of trying to psych out the opponent.
It’ll be harder to reproduce a phony Zika virus scare to disrupt a major sporting event the second time around.

Matt
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Matt

” In any event, the government solicitation is enough to raise alarm.”
There is nothing alarming whatsoever about this. It’s a manufactured scare.
“It’ll be harder to reproduce a phony Zika virus scare to disrupt a major sporting event the second time around.”
What are you implying? That the U.S. wants to manufacture a virus scare using Russian DNA samples?

Jen
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Jen

In case people have forgotten, the Winter Olympics are being held in March next year in South Korea (Pyeongchang) and then during the northern summer Russia is hosting the FIFA World Cup. The US Air Force doesn’t have that much time to collect the DNA samples (for the time being it may be the only agent capable of doing that) and try to pass them on to interested parties to make a case for banning Russia from the Winter Olympics because of its athletes having “banned substances in their blood samples” (while other teams are stacked with competitors with medical… Read more »

rtj1211
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rtj1211

Most obvious reason is evidence planting at false flag crime scenes. If Russia is to be blamed, conveniently coating evidence with Russian DNA is a new way to claim evidence exists.
Russian-specific bioweapons is possible but is 10’years plus away.
There will not be anything genuine going on…..

PsyBorg
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They are probably trying to get DNA so they can identify the fingerprints of the people they think hacked their Emails.

James Barron Williamson
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😀

vierotchka
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LOL! 😀

Schlüter
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See also:
“US Power Elite Declared Bio War on the Southern Hemisphere, East Asia and all Non-Western Countries in September 2000”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/03/13/us-power-elite-declared-war-on-the-southern-hemisphere-east-asia-and-all-non-western-countries-in-september-2000/
&
„Ebola: Pandora´s Box Opened Since Long?“ http://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/ebola-pandoras-box-opened-since-long/
&
“A Reminder: Neocon Think Tanks and Fascism”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/a-reminder-neocon-think-tanks-and-fascism-zur-erinnerung-neocon-think-tanks-und-faschismus/
Regards

Lora Jasan
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Wow, I’d almost think you’re a crackpot for disseminating this material… except you’re not. Pretty brave to post it in fact. TY for the links.

Eric Blair
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Calling someone a crackpot or similar without providing a reason and and an argument supporting it only discredits you and makes you look like a prick who needs to insult others to big himself up. It’s a sign of weak character. I think many people are too quick to accept a poorly supported conspiracy or false flag theory as an explanation for an event when there are more plausible possibilities to consider. HOWEVER conspiracies and false flags happen and some sound absolutely nutty to the average MSM zombie. Imagine a person in the 1960s telling a 60s version of you… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

Hello Eric, “A very suspicious just-released document that is almost certainly a fabrication is the file from “Osama bin Laden” that “proves” al Qaeda collaborated with the government of Iran to perpetuate the 911 event” This is incorrect. The OBL files released by the CIA indicate that Al-Queda was being given covert help by Iranian intelligence so it could attack American interests in countries like Saudi Arabia. It has nothing to do with 9/11. You thus created a strawman, which you then proeceeded to debunk. Despite the secterian differences, Iran has been more than willing to give Jihadists protection in… Read more »