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ANALYSIS: Signs of Compromise in Yulia Skripal's Statement

by Tony Kevin

Tony Kevin’s summary responses to the MoA view that Yulia’s statement is suspect, because it was allegedly written under duress of some kind, and from a prepared English script translated into Russian.

Yulia Skripal allegedly making voluntary statement May 23 2018


There are at least two big questions here that need to be separately addressed. MoA and many of their correspondents segue from one to the other and back again , which is not conducive to a clear understanding and quickly leads one down unproductive, hypothetical blind alleys: leaving one in the end in a not useful position of general skepticism of everyone and everything involved in the Skripal affair.
One of the classic forms of deception in naval warfare is to hide what you are trying to hide by laying dummy targets behind a lot of smoke. This letter is an effort to clear away smoke and help to see the real targets more clearly.
The two big questions are:

  • 1. What were the circumstances of Yulia’s videoed statement ? Was it made under duress, Stockholm Syndrome, or coached ? Was it even Julia at all, or a lookalike stand-in? In any case, does it matter what she said, now that it has been said and recorded ?
  • 2. What were the Skripals poisoned with? Were they poisoned at all? Were they innocent victims , I.e. were they both, or was Sergei alone, complicit? Does the issue of alleged complicity matter now? Or is it just smoke?

Operating on Occam’s Razor, I try to pare my following analysis back to essential agreed or highly probable facts.
1. As to the poisoning substance used, first and foremost, I would rank Lavrov’s 14 April statement, based as he said on the best Russian scientific/medical analysis available to him of public video footage of the victims and of the leaked reports of the chemical analysis at Spiez of the Skripal samples, as very strong evidence – as almost certain evidence. The Russians would have had some kind of informant working in the OPCW system, as Lavrov admitted . Lavrov took a political decision to publicly reveal the Skripal analysis, and thereby risk exposing his source, because Russia considered it so important in their national interest to discredit the otherwise powerful British Novichuk lie.
He laid his own credibility on the line as Russian FM – and as a man who has no public record of ever lying – to point clearly to the most probable fact that the Skripals were poisoned with BZ and could never have been exposed to the always fatal A234 Novichuk; but also to as good as accuse that the samples were highly likely to have been twice tampered with while in British custody, first adding some A234 a short time after 4 March, and again adding a fresh dose shortly before the samples were given to OPCW custody. Please read his 14 April words carefully – I put them up again yesterday for easy reference on my Facebook Page. They are the strongest evidence we have of how the Skripals were poisoned and how the poisoners attempted to lay a false Novichuk trail in the samples and around Salisbury afterwards.
On this subject, all the rest is smoke or idle speculation.
Lavrov nailed it – the diplomatic task now for the world community through OPCW is to make public the proof of how the Skripals were poisoned from Spiez and the other three labs, and for UKG to eventually apologise to Russia for their gross calumny against her.
2. On Yulia’s Reuters interview. First, I am satisfied it was her. No substitute could have fooled the family and friends back in Russia, hearing and watching her speak thus at length . It is Yulia. We would have heard complaints by now from the Russian government if it were not.
Now as to the content of her oral statement and two letters
Here is the full video of her statement as delivered in Russian.
And here are both her handwritten and signed letters:


I read the linguistic commentary in the letters to Moon of Alabama with attention, knowing something as I do about Russian language and translation. I am satisfied that the well-rehearsed and familiar statement that Yulia read out with practiced ease, using visual aids or memory, was the product of a negotiation between her and her carers/ captors, let’s call them carers for short.
I believe the first draft in the negotiation was British, which explains the laboured pompous Home Counties/ Estuary court-style English ( ‘I do not want to avail myself of etc’ ) . By the time she got to read out her agreed Russian translation, most of that tortured language was gone, translated into normal spoken colloquial Russian. And then, translations back into normal English appeared as text-overs on the Reuters video, with the laboured phrases gone.
My conclusion is that Yulia’s statement was a negotiated document based on an original British carers’ first draft, substantially amended in negotiation with her.
As someone who has spent some of my diplomatic career negotiating texts, I know that it is a give-and-take process: you give a bit here, I give a bit there, and we each hold onto what we think are our respective sticking points . The result always contains some tensions and contradictions, accepted by both sides in the interest of reaching agreement on the package.
Reading the final statement in English, I feel confident that Yulia’s sticking points were:

  1. Not to say or imply that any Russian agency poisoned her – the resulting silence on this was a big win for her. Undoubtedly the carers had wanted an anti-Russian accusation. It is not there. Because she refused to point the finger of blame at her country.
  2. To express the hope of returning to Russia. She would have wanted to say ‘as soon as possible’. Her carers would have wanted to leave this thought out altogether, or if they had to include words on this, to stretch it out into the far future. The result is a compromise – actually, it is more of a win for Yulia, because just the presence of these words, by recording her wish to go home , would make it harder if her carers were ever tempted to have her killed and claim she had gone into hiding under a new identity. This would not wash now.
  3. As far as possible, to protect her father and avoid a forced separation from him.

I believe her carers’ sticking points would have been:

  1. That she should thank them and express fulsome gratitude to them. Important as preemptive insurance against any future possible claims by Yulia, after her hoped-for return to Russia, that her carers had held her in forced captivity beyond a time when her medical recovery would have allowed her to travel safely to Russia. This point goes to repeated Russian Govt complaints to Britain from the beginning of the affair, about British violation of signed consular treaties binding both countries. Luke Harding of the Guardian revealingly reports this British government concern.
  2. That she should emphasise how sick she had been, in how much pain and discomfort etc. This strikes me as British-origin language, Russians are stoical people and would not choose to dwell on their suffering using language like ‘the clinical treatment was invasive, painful and depressing’. The carers wanted to emphasise her suffering. Had she condemned Russia, her condemnation would have been all the stronger.
  3. That she should say she wants to remain in protective isolation and in particular that she does not wish to have contact with Russian Embassy. This was clearly a carer interest, they wish to maintain full control and isolation of Yulia.

So the result is a compromise, I would say highly probably freely entered into by Yulia, knowing how little power she had to substantially change the text her carers wanted . No wonder there was a spring in her step. She knew that in at least two important respects, she had outwitted her carers. Russians are smart and brave people. Yulia was smart and brave.
Does any of this matter? Only in the sense of clearing away the smoke and the dummy targets, and focussing on what matters most in this awful and sad affair:
(a) getting the Skripals home safely to their country, by forcing the UK government to adhere to its international obligations under consular law
And as a second order objective, possibly not achievable for many years to come,
(b) getting a full British govt apology to Russia and to the Skripals for the attack on them, and subsequent crimes of deceit and mental cruelty and forced detention and calumny.
In conclusion, to me this is not an Agatha Christie parlour game. I have been literally sickened by the corruption of diplomatic relations and simple decency instigated by British government agencies against Russia. Russophobia today in the West is worse than when I wrote about it in my Feb 2017 book ‘Return to Moscow’. The Skripal Affair has in my view been a major British government-instigated provocation against Russia, with significant negative flow-on effects for East-West relations generally, and for peace in hotspots like Syria and Ukraine . I want to see the unsavoury Skripal Affair decently ended and buried in the history books.

Former Australian career diplomat and independent writer Tony Kevin is the author of the 2017 literary travel memoir ‘Return to Moscow’

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SteveKomarnyckyj (@SteveKomarnycky)

Lol!!!!! “He laid his own credibility on the line as Russian FM – and as a man who has no public record of ever lying –”

JudyJ
JudyJ

I caught the end of Question Time last night, and David Dimbleby told us that we could all watch a special [propaganda] Panorama Report he is fronting next Wednesday on ‘Putin’s Russia’. What a coincidence – immediately before the start of the World Cup. Any bets on whether we are going to hear a statement issued by Sergei Skripal early next week as well? Oh, and maybe also a disingenuous OPCW report on Douma just to add to the mix.

Mike S Goodmann
Mike S Goodmann

One can be almost certain that anything done by the British intelligence services would have been authorized/aided/instigated by the CIA!

balkydj

And the ZIONazi instigators of
APARTHEID !

Harry Law
Harry Law

John Helmer’s blog..”London police commissioner makes new claim to keep Yulia Skripal incommunicado”
“The Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Cressida Dick, has announced that Yulia Skripal is not being held incommunicado, against her will, and in violation of her legal rights “if she consents to any assistance provided”.
http://johnhelmer.net/london-police-commissioner-makes-new-claim-to-keep-yulia-skripal-incommunicado/

Harry Law
Harry Law

Second police statement on behalf of Yulia Skripal 11th April 2018 ” I have specially trained officers available to me, who are helping to take care of me and to explain the investigative processes that are being undertaken”
Yulia might think these officers are there inter alia to look after her interests and might ask these questions of them..
Q.Can I contact my relatives? Answer, no, sorry.
Q Can my relatives contact or visit me? Answer, no sorry.
Q In view of my life changing future prospects, legally, financially [including those at home in Russia] and my ongoing interactions with my secret service “friends” who only have my interests at heart, could I have an independent lawyer to advise and represent me? Answer, you must be joking, no sorry.
Q Very well, at least I know you are looking after my two guinea pigs and cat who I love so much. Officers make their excuses and leave rapidly, leaving her alone and incarcerated in her secret facility.

jazthings656986293

am i a prisoner of the british government? ant says (in the accent)! well done, pet, you and your dad are well fecked!

balkydj

Chuckle 😉

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Fenatyl was first suspected, yes, we know that.
They doctors and paramedics thought it was an opioid.
But then they realised it was a nerve agent.
In the Litvinenko case, thallium was first suspected… it wasn’t and Po210 was discovered.
F A C T S
E N J O Y

jazthings656986293

T W A T!

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

▪️The doctors told the BBC that the Skripals were heavily sedated, to receive artificial ventilation and to protect them from brain damage.
The medical team sought to boost the pair’s production of acetylcholinesterase, an enzyme that is vital for the brain to communicate with muscles and that can be blocked by nerve agents.
▪️Atropine is not a fun drug, but it can save you from an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor.
Medical F A C T S

wschira
wschira

The doctors told also to BBC that the Skripals came in on Sunday and were treated against opiate empoisonment. This happened during the two days following and only then the hospital had support from Porton Down.
My opinion: If they were empoisoned with Novichok, they had died in this time.

jazthings656986293

F A C T S: brain damage happens within 15 (ha ha, conservative) minutes! military grade nerve agent, probably 1 minute (i can’t see the benefit of allowing them damn yankees a decent lunch!) unless they’re dead (a possiblity) they’re fine, you sockpuppet!

Moscow Exile

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P R Films (@PRFilms1)

While people are congratulating themselves on seeing Yulia is alive and well, they may be taking their eye off the ball which is – what has happened to Sergei Skripal?
Because no one has seen him since 4th March 2018
And, unlike Yulia, there is actual evidence of Sergei Skripal’s existence prior to 4.3.18 (old entries on wiki going back to 2006 and news articles) and, up until very recently, he also had a Linked In account (now deleted)
I am not saying Yulia doesn’t exist, just that I’ve not found much evidence of it, or at least not in the UK. She has a Facebook account but these can easily be falsified by backdating posts.
Whilst Yulia’s existence is backed up by Viktoria Skripal, I’ve not been able to establish much in the way of evidence of her existence either. She has a very odd Facebook account (which again could be backdated) and that’s about it, though I don’t have any Russian so its possible there is evidence, just that I can’t find it.
I have not been able to find a news item about Viktoria Skripal’s reaction to the Reuters interview with Yulia. If anyone knows of this please let me have the url.
It might be significant that Russia has never issued a writ of habeas corpus with regard to Yulia Skripal?
As to whether they would be able to do so in the case of Sergei Skripal I don’t know. Its possible they could as I think he was supposed to have kept Russian citizenship
I think there may be legal action that Sergei and Yulia’s family could take to get access to them. In the case of Sergei Skripal, no one has seen him since 4th March 2018. Its possible the family might be able to retain a solicitor to look into whether Sergei Skripal is alive or dead and who is managing his financial affairs if he is not. So I’m wondering why they haven’t done this?

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Good post P R Films.
My research, although not everyone’s cup of polonium laced tea ( I still laugh at the Met’s reported discovery of “a hot teapot” in the Litvinenko case ), leads me to suspect that the narrative for Sergei’s reported son, Alexander and his reported Sapsan train meanderings might also be false.
I’ve had no luck locating Yulia’s Facebook page or her reported presence on the Russian equivalent vk.com
Can anyone help with links for these please ?
I would very much appreciate them.
Thanks
Mark

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Yulia wants to be left alone.
She nearly died, and is still undergoing treatment.
Show a little respect.

jazthings656986293

so why is she appearing in a shampoo ad directed by the london metropolitan police?

balkydj

That just made me laugh real loud from the belly up , so loud an echo came back at me from the walls of these extinct Volcanic Faces that surround me .. the first time I saw the video of Yulia, all I could think about, (before more intense analysis), was WTF is this? an advert for Schwarzkopf or what ? as my eyes were drawn to her hair waving in the breeze and how maybe Novichok is good for the hair and do Schwarzkopf have the patent .. 🙂 ?
😉
Greetings and i look sincerely forward to hearing more from your always welcome comments & demon wit, from my POV ..
So,you just happened upon a lucky number from WordPress .. (no pain, no gain, eh?)
I’m still trying to suss this WordPress thingy,
Even, or at odds @440 Hertz with some distortion .. ‘purely’ built in 😉
Regards & respect,
best wishes,
balky

jazthings656986293

thanks balky!

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

I posted this article and asked for comments on the other thread, but …
So, a second request for comments.
The golden rule of narrative analysis :
If they are telling us something, then it is for a reason. Always. No exceptions.
So, what to make of this story ?
I would be interested to know what others make of the “grammar analysis” for this piece :
Daily Mail : ‘Sinister’ social media post on Yulia Skripal’s ‘Russian Facebook’ site uploaded while she was still in a coma after Novichok attack raises new hacking fears
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616611/Sinister-social-media-post-Yulia-Skripals-Russian-Facebook-site-raises-new-hacking-fears.html
Gardes-Marines, ahead!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardes-Marines,_Ahead!
MG

jazthings656986293

the story is only important until the bombs start dropping, after that it’s only important to stand behind the queen or the president! after that, we’re only human, everyone makes mistakes!

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Viktoria Skripal glad to hear from Yulia
16:17, UK, Thursday 24 May 2018
https://news.sky.com/video/viktoria-skripal-glad-to-hear-from-yulia-11384173
MG

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

First person in Russia to care.

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Sputnik : Viktoria Skripal Believes Yulia’s First Video Address Made Under Pressure
© REUTERS / Dylan Martinez
Russia
23:19 23.05.2018
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201805231064740391-uk-russia-skripal-statement-pressure/
BRYANSK (Sputnik) – Viktoria Skripal, the niece of the former Russian military intelligence officer Sergei Skripal, who was poisoned in the United Kingdom believes that the filmed statement of her cousin Yulia has been recorded under pressure, Viktoria’s husband Arseniy Elifantyev told Sputnik Wednesday.
“I have not seen the video but Viktoria has. According to her, it can be seen clearly that she [Yulia] was speaking under pressure and that her text was read out,” Elifantyev said.

MG

jazthings656986293

bullshit attack, bullshit characters! i always felt that he was part of the anna chapman exchange was convenient!

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

‘Murdered’ Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko is alive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44307611
MG

JudyJ
JudyJ

All rather weird – supposedly he was believed to be on a Russian hitlist and this ‘murder’ scenario was a ruse to bring his supposed assassins out into the open. It isn’t clear to me how this is supposed to work but the Russians have described it as a Ukrainian propaganda exercise.

reinertorheit
reinertorheit

Babchenko is a deluded little shill for his Ukrainian paymasters. I doubl he’ll be making any more programs for Crimean radio after this?
He even deceived his own wife about his murder.
There are no words to describe a gutless little Quisling like this.
Of course, Porky and his obese Nazi headchoppers are laughing like drains over this incident. But it will cost Ukrainian credibility an immeasurable amount.
Utter worthless scum.

Mulga Mumblebrain
Mulga Mumblebrain

If the beloved Ukronazi Gestapo, so widely admired by Western fakestream media presstitutes, faked this, what else might they have faked?

Mulga Mumblebrain
Mulga Mumblebrain

No matter what happens, it will be spun by the ENTIRE Western fakestream media sewer AGAINST Russia and Putin. This one is a beauty, but every report I’ve seen so far uses it to defame Russia, as usual.

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Here’s Mr. Putin:-

He says a lot here asking how can traitors live happy, full lives in hiding, and how can they look at their children face to face and return to their homelands to bury their friends? Have they no conscience?
Most of them are Russian officers who sold their soul for thirty pieces of silver. They will surely choke on it and regret being a traitor a thousand times.
To be honest, I’m not sure I disagree with what he says…
Strong and emotive words.
But he says it.
Mighty handy that others are doing Russia’s ‘dirty and dangerous’ work on their behalf eh?

jazthings656986293

schmuck!

reinertorheit
reinertorheit

P.I.Tchaikovsky, Iolanta
https://youtu.be/vWyuvjECZ4w
The courtiers have lied to the blind Princess Iolanta – about her blindness, and also have never told her that she is a princess. A cure may be possible – but she must first believe that she really wants to see, before the cure can begin.
Arioso – “Why did no-one ever tell me before?”
Anna Netrebko – the greatest soprano in the world today.

vierotchka

Then there is this:
Former chemical weapons expert: “Even UK allies are starting to ask what’s true”
Published on 30 May 2018
“Even UK allies are starting to ask what’s true” says former United Nations inspector Anton Unkin as Skripals’ doctors are surprised by fast and ‘hard to explain’ recovery.

Ross Hendry

The former chemical weapons expert rightly talks about the lies by British officials.
The whole farce surely suggests that the the Salisbury incident caught our government (and therefore our security services) completely by surprise and they had to resort to playing it by ear. This explains the immediate accusation against Russia (and the identification of “their” deadly Novichok, later to prove not so deadly), the ever-changing explanations as to the means by which the poison was administered, the likely fate of the Skripals and the policeman, etc. If this was in any way a false-flag designed by HMG/MI5 they would seem to have been remarkably ill-prepared, with no consistent narrative nor anticipation of the kinds of questions the incident might raise.
For this reason my money is on a foreign intelligence service. Cui Bono then suggests that the hawks in the Syrian war, Israel and/or the USA, as the perpetrators, without so much as a polite by you leave to HMG. All timed nicely to further demonize Russia just before the airstrikes.
If true this will obviously never be allowed to come above board. Heaven forfend that anyone should entertain the idea that agents of our (nominal) allies can so easily stage such an event in the U.K. without our knowledge or approval.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Ross, Whilst I agree that the possibility that a third party was the main protagonist is high on the list of explanations, what I find hard to credit is the immediate impulse of the UK Govt to point the finger of blame at Russia and make sure that every opportunity was exploited to sustain that narrative, even to the point of blatantly lying, and blocking any input from Russia in the investigation. Now, either the UK Govt was knowingly party to the charade from the outset, or they are incredibly ignorant, naïve and gullible. If it wasn’t the former, how do they explain the rush to blame Russia completely in the absence of any proof whatsoever and without even contemplating any other possibilities? A primary issue first and foremost in the minds of anyone with half a brain would have been Sergei Skripal’s (and even Yulia’s) recent past – what they had been involved with professionally, personal contacts, financial status, known enemies. That can’t be investigated and rules out in the space of two or three days. This suggests to me that the UK Govt knew exactly what was going on and what they were doing.

Ross Hendry

Fair points, thank you. The only thing I would say regarding the likelihood of the UK Govt being party to the charade from the outset is how come then they were so farcically at sea in dealing with it?
Now, as to why there was the immediate impulse to blame Russia and determined efforts to keep them out of any investigation. Apart from the fact that Russia has been earmarked to be the international bête noire for some time I suggest that MI5 may have advised the government straight away that they suspected Mossad/the CIA to be involved. Obviously this could have become a huge embarrassment to the U.K. and the suspicion couldn’t be allowed to surface in any way: it then became crucially important that Russia was immediately and firmly identified as the one and only possible perpetrator. Anything else would be bound to increase speculation as to precisely who was responsible.
That’s my current take, but who knows? The world of secret services is a wilderness of mirrors. Probably in order to fully understand what spooks are up to you have to be as screwed up as they are 🙂

JudyJ
JudyJ

Thanks, Ross. All that you say is undoubtedly plausible. “…how come they were so farcically at sea in dealing with it?” – is it really so surprising when you have the likes of May, Johnson and Williamson and all the other cretins at the helm??

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

The U.K. has dealt with it very well.
Saving their lives for a start.

balkydj

I tend to concur with you Ross, although a wide variety of reasonable duplicity from GCHQ is still wholly feasible: by which I mean that the Government is not even aware of all things that are happening within their own secret services, & not only British Secret Services’ “Wilderness of Mirrors,” (nice metaphor, by the way, lol) & we must consider daily, the pernicious possibilities within the appalling compartmentalisation of today’s existence, (the Zionist ‘ DISCONNECT ‘) : therefore, given the levels of censorship & manipulations in ALL communications systems today, (not just the mainstream media), i think it is fair to say also, that with the F.o.E freedom of expression that we are gifted with [email protected] , what we are all doing together is treading a kind of >>
Virgin Wilderness 😉 ?
F.o.E. a territory with..
No secrets ?
What ?
No mirrors ! ?
And this would explain the various pernicious CyberFlackMassiveAttackS experienced last Saturday PM , coz’ TPTB did not just Target OFFG ..
Just a thought , that relates to future solutions in terms of all Communications, that I began to consider 2 decades ago and therefore registered that V.W. name in Bg. & the Uk,
one decade ago ..
(The UK name at companies house was closed down after Branson’s top I.P. lawyer , Mark James, became highly aggressive & irritated and threatening to a family member, but, he can’t touch me here in Bg. 😉 )
Open Source Intelligence & Engineering , in Real Time .. (consider 🙂 )

balkydj

Just to add some flavour to the metaphor of V.W. for you to consider, I ‘arrived’ at the name after considering many future orientated threads of predetermined existence , after studying 2 creatures in the wild ..
The VULTURE & the WOLF ..
Natures natural cleaners 😉
I was even thinking of approaching that German car company, at one point, but then on reflection, after seeing what kind of tricks they were prepared to PROGRAMME into their diesel engines computers, the powers of associations & all that .. say no more 🙂

jazthings656986293

these are the people who are currently ballsing up brexit!

P R Films (@PRFilms1)

Yes a popular theory is that it was Pablo Miller who administered the poison. The motive being that Sergei Skripal had worked on the Trump Dossier, knew about lies in it, and was asking for money to keep quiet. There is a CIA agent involved in the case, Dan Kaszeta, who is working very hard to maintain the story that Novochok was applied to Sergei Skripal’s front door handle, that could take four hours before effectiong them and would not necessarily prove fatal. This story places the poisoning well away from the Salisbury bar/restaurant where Sergei and Yulia were photographed by “the man in the mirror”. MSM later obscuring the image of the man in the mirror after the government issued two DSMA notices covering Pablo Miller and Orbis Business Intelligence, which amusingly enough, indicates the man in the mirror had to be something to do with them. CNN has an article stating that Pablo Miller’s (now removed) Linked In Profile stated that he worked under contract for the Foreign Office (and so Boris Johnson). If Pablo Miller was involved in Sergei Skripal’s poisoning it would be very embarrassing for the Government because Pablo Miller also recruited Alexander Litvinenko and Boris Berezovsky and it might cast a question mark over who was responsible for what happened to them.

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

“The Spy with the Louis Vuittton handbag” …
Cancer, car crash and liver failure: Mysterious deaths of wife and son of Russian ‘Spy with the Louis Vuitton Handbag’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5468291/Mysterious-deaths-Sergei-Skripals-wife-son.html
https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/21/what-did-the-salisbury-physician-mean-by-no-patients-have-experienced-symptoms-of-nerve-agent-poisoning/#comment-109407
https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/24/whose-words-was-yulia-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-122106
https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/24/whose-words-was-yulia-reading/comment-page-1/#comment-121590
The Skripal / Steele / Miller / trump dossier is not the only motivation here.
Syria does too, naturally and not fogetting the Brexit / Tusk / Princess Tony milieu all figure, writ large …
Oh and Alex Younger et al …
MG

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

My earlier reply from a coiuple oif hours ago has yet to appear !
I forgot to mention in that post, another of the complaints in the list in addition to Putin, Syria and Brexit.
In a word : Chilcot.
MG

balkydj

I haven’t seen the reply yet, but you can have a like just for mentioning ‘Chilcot’ Death ! ?
😉

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Where do you get the Pablo Miller link from?
Or have you just thought of that yourself?

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

A ‘popular’ theory.
Hmmm

jazthings656986293

i realise it’s hard to remember what argument you were last paid for, but seriously, don’t they give you a notebook?

balkydj

That’s the first comment, I’ve ever read here from you ‘jazztingy’, so I have to say welcome to the club of musical wit to my ears ..
Then, i did the math on that number you attached , which in simple additional terms equals 54 >> 5 + 4 = 9
Which subsequently gave me a double boost of positive energy , frequency & vibrations , as to your potential , along the guide lines of Nikola Tesla , who with my B”AMPS happens to be one of my heroes ..
like Verdi ‘s “A” class concert hall standard of tuned emissions , for all things positive in terms of Transmission & Reception of pure Frequency Waves at natures most natural level, measured in Hertz, the key to which is ..
@432 Hertz 4 + 3 + 2 = 9
And therefore, you might think I’m bonkers asking, (logic), but is there any specific reason you picked those numbers that all add up to a factor of 9 or was it just pure coincidence ?? Coz’ I have this theory , electronically speaking, that the biggest ground based earthing strike ever, in modern Society , still resonates negatively soundly today, which was when the USA introduced the transport of electricity for nationwide delivery and with massive subsequent global implications & not least infiltrated into others’ electro-culture, on behalf of ZIONazis, who were sponsoring [email protected] , i.e. with derivative investments on both sides , whilst stealing the intellectual property of both sides .. and the whole damn shebang began back in
1940, with the introduction of the Electricity Grid @440 Hertz ..
A most deliberate Mistake raised one octave above VERDI’s ‘A’ coz’ the differential gave ‘Spielraum’ to manoeuvre and install Mind Control Methodology , that TESLA had researched , within the bandwidth of amplified Distortion for Modulation of MicroRadioWaves which even permits subliminal messaging, hypnosis and complete BRAINWASH ..
just a thought, from a mad-man .. or am I ? ! ? !
I best study the rest of your comments, first 🙂 😉

jazthings656986293

hi balkydj! the numbers were assigned to me by wordpress, but i’ve heard a few things about the 440 hz signal, none good!

Mulga Mumblebrain
Mulga Mumblebrain

I tend to agree, and the fiasco that ensued is simply indicative of the low level of competence in all things manifested by a country sinking into the mire, and led by hereditary and arriviste psychopaths sadly lacking in any intellectual or moral intelligence whatsoever.

balkydj

Fully agreed MM: as evidenced in the moment Thatcher sold off the greatest UK / BT asset ever to all comer Corporations >> FIBRE OPTIC cable , the ultimate scientific advantage for societal intellectual development , not delivered to the UK people >>
WASTED !
She was either criminally complicit with the masters of ZION or just plain simple, an exceedingly dumb daughter of a cornered grocer’s shop owner ..

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Atropine is an antidote.

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

▪️The doctors told the BBC that the Skripals were heavily sedated, to receive artificial ventilation and to protect them from brain damage.
The medical team sought to boost the pair’s production of acetylcholinesterase, an enzyme that is vital for the brain to communicate with muscles and that can be blocked by nerve agents.
▪️Atropine is not a fun drug, but it can save you from an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor.

stevehayes13
stevehayes13

Why did the BBC decide to cover the medical treatment of the Skripals by Mark Urban, a Diplomatic journalist? I wonder how many medical stories Mr Urban has covered?

Mulga Mumblebrain
Mulga Mumblebrain

Surely the new and brilliant treatments utilised to save the Skripals have been made available to all other medical systems, world-wide, in order to save others poisoned by roving Russian hit-squads, or poisoned by other similar chemicals, say pesticides. I await the description of this miraculous break-through in some medical journal, perhaps ‘Lancet’.

stevehayes13
stevehayes13

Don’t hold your breath.

jazthings656986293

they probably had to!

balkydj

Good morning Britain & Dick Madeley , I must say ..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/richard-madeley-interview-gavin-williamson-good-morning-britain-elephant-putin-a8375061.html?S2ref=1474751
Bwahahahaha .. you can fool some of the people ALL of the time .. ! ?
Just simply sticking to the question.. 🙂
Especially Defence Ministers like Gav.d’Chav 😉 Chump Chimpish Supine Schoolboy Slogger ..
Now off to Africa to advise how to deal with poachers: just in case Putin shows up , or what ?
The poachers will be so scared of Gavin’s words.. scared of dying from laughter 🙂
“Mr Williamson was speaking from West Midlands Safari Park in Worcestershire, where he was meeting military personnel preparing to go to Malawi to train park rangers to protect elephants and rhinos from poachers.”
You can’t make this BS up, talk about elephants in the room and at home in the Safari Park of Worcester Sauce & cheek of it all >> what a complete d**k Gavin Williamson looks now, I can’t stop laughing ..
Any second rate comedian is gonna’ have a field day & a sell out night of fun ridicule at Gav the Gash’s expense, more gushing & gasping G’teed .. in fact I reckon i could spin this whole tale Skripal & Gav..comms into a full half hour episode, with Richard Madeley most kindly invited to top it off ..
******
Well done Richard, mighty Rich: some MEN got some principles, at least ..

Kaiama
Kaiama

The elephant in India killed his handler the other day.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Richard Madeley was standing in for Piers Morgan….as someone commented on Twitter, probably the last time he’ll be asked to do that.

Kaiama
Kaiama

Gavin deserved it.

balkydj

@Kaiama and much more ! Reality determines that he got off kinda’ light & probably darn sharpish, too , rushing & gushing , gnashing bile & fury, like the proper lil’ puppy puppet private school pupil of prostitution & poachers , he is .. 😉
Sucking a dummy 🙂 & crying in disMay’s a-dress-ing down ..
“Down Boy & lick my boots.. whilst yer’ there !! ”
LMAO

Kaiama
Kaiama

Madeley may be angling for Newnight now that Paxman is gone. IMHO he’s already passed the audition.

balkydj

It would be great if Madley got the job, with a vision in mind and did a masterful live real time styling of Peter Finch’s role in the film ‘Network’ (ed) , no editor streaming live, calling up all the guilty parties and leaders in the world , just imagine..
Oi, PC Dick ‘simples’ wants a word with YOU ! ? whadya reckon , lol ;)?

balkydj

Chuckle, any decent person would have dat’extra Dr. Feelgood Factor , that money, fame and even the job itself, just can’t buy and they “is gonna” think & Feelgood about themselves , like a RICH.man with Soul.. For all eternity, with the thought:-
“The day I did my job … with patient perseverance & professional spirit , & nailed it ..”
Unlike Piers Morgan , working for misogynist Mad’dog Murdoch for so long , like a puppy poodle, yapping , with an intellectual inferiority complex of mammoth proportions .. hearing just the name and I cringe, I swear 😉
datsa’ Dachshund devil , in a Morgen Mental Midget’s clothing & a creepy crawly critter kinda’ guy to squat at dawn by women’s toilets .. 🙂 Dontcha’ just know it ! ?
My skin crawls at the thought of him, before he even starts whining zzzzzzzz.>>stomp>> squat 🙂
(Apologies to all poodle / dachshund owners, no offence intended 😉 )

theroyalsecretinfo

The Russians would be fools to do this ahead of the World Cup. The far more obvious candidates are the CIA (not Trump) or their Israeli pals. Possibly even the UK’s MI5 itself egged on by the CIA. For what reason? To continue the US military/industrial complex aim to create tension between Europe and Russia and order more arms for defence; to depose Putin; or to go to war with Russia in which Europe and especially the UK would be in the front line. That Mrs May should have gone along with it shows a total disregard for the safety of UK citizens and the wrecking of any trade between the UK and Russia. It was noticeable that Germany who are the largest traders with Russia dismissed only four Russian diplomats as a token gesture while many countries refused to believe Mrs May’s hysteria.

Ross Hendry

Agreed. I sense Mossad (“By way of deception thou shalt do war”) were behind this, likely with help from the CIA and MI5.

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

You make some good points.
Also, for those who may default or, heven forbid, offer reasoned argument that HM Gov perpetrated the Skripal farce, you need to address why the Tories would bite the hand that feeds them ?
In case anyone is unaware, there is a full scale war going on against the Tories, not just for the usual reasons, but because of Brexit.
“Dirty” Russian money pouring into the Tory coffers has been but one feature of this warfare.
So quite why Theresa May & co would want to quench that funding source remains a mystery.
My analysis shows that this is in fact a Trump / Mercer affair, a quid-pro-quo for the Steel Trump dossier.
The subsequent lies and cover up are the behaviour of a government under siege and being placed between a geopolitical rock and a hard place.
That “government” is not as homogeneous as one might imagine.
There are many factions within and without, all fighting desperately to bring this government down to stop Brexit.
That those goals coincide with the goals of the usual suspects in other theatres just proves once again that these events are always at the very least, two birds with one stone.
*
On 19 March 2011, the psycopaths began their “military intervention” in Libya.
This just happened to be :
911 months, 911 weeks
since the Balfour Declaration on 2 November 1917
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=2&m1=11&y1=1917&type=add&ay=&am=911&aw=911&ad=&rec=
*
Vlad “the New World Order” Impaler, along with Sergey Lavrow, stopped the psychopaths in their Syrian tracks.
Lavrov & Kerry agreed on a deal and Syria became a party to the CWC by placing it’s CW under international control on 14 April 2013.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/world/middleeast/syria-talks.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Chemical_Weapons_Convention
14 April 2013 – “just happened to be” an INClusive :
911 days
since the start of the destruction of Libya.
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=19&m1=3&y1=2011&d2=14&m2=9&y2=2013&ti=on
and therefore, 14 April 2013 – “just happened to be” an INClusive :
= 911 months, 911 weeks, 911 days
since the Balfour Declaration on 2 November 1917
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=2&m1=11&y1=1917&type=add&ay=&am=911&aw=911&ad=&rec=
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=19&m1=3&y1=2011&d2=14&m2=9&y2=2013&ti=on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Hope this helps.
MG

balkydj

Incidentally, I like the quid pro quo notion after the Steel Trump dossier: this would go a long way to explaining many things ..
Just a pointer, for future reference 🙂 your comments will be delayed in publication , if you post more than 4 links simultaneously .. which is not unreasonable from the site security angle & as anti-trolling measure. I know that you & I have such a load in our heads, but so much life experience, info. & intel. is tough for many to assimilate all in one ‘shot’ or injection of the wealth of information that we possess..
Just a thought 🙂

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Factions, dear boy, factions …
There is also this to consider :
TV Series Strike Back “Novichok” and Hillary Clinton.
Recall the “predictive programming” aspect of the TV series Strike Back vis “Novichok” ?
( As per the 9/11 paradigm with the Lone Gunman epsiode ).
https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/23/ds-nick-bailey-allegedly-released-from-hospital-msm-continue-false-claims-of-30-casualties-in-salisbury-despite-denial-from-senior-physician-on-the-case/comment-page-1/#comment-110102
The episode of Strike Back, S6 Ep5 featuring “Novichok”, was first broadcast on Sky One in the UK on 28 November 2017.
The same episode was first broadcast US TV on 2 March 2018, just 2 days before the theatrics in Salisbury are “reported to have occurred on 4 March 2018” …
*
From Hillary Clinton born on 26 October 1947
to the Novichok episode of Strike Back, S6 Ep5 first UK broadcast on 28 November 2017 is :
ISUAF =
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=26&m1=10&y1=1947&type=add&ay=&am=666&aw=666&ad=666&rec=
*
A fine example of how naturally occurring kabbalism is used to provoke the construction of a script around a theme …
It does not get much more obvious that this.
If one knows where and how to look at it that is …
MG

reinertorheit
reinertorheit

[[ = 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days ]]
More laughable trash written from your home under the bridge.
Do you think anyone here takes you seriously?
[[ If one knows where and how to look at it that is … ]]
Go and take a J-Arthur-Rank elsewhere. you shabby apology for a human being.

balkydj

Holy Moly . yer twisting my Melons man and it wasn’t a happy monday, i assure you 😉 when playing catch up , limping wounded from a massive flackattackacyber’spaced’O’junkies .. tell me yer’ joking , please , or must I duck the radar & Pavlov dog-ma’n’boneman, again .. ?
I have seen more than a few warning signs of fractions being leveraged, also in Balkan local loyalties, it’s dog eat dog down here, any day now, with the proverbial big steel bar digging in riffffts & craggy faces, right now: around national celebrations, too.. with a few verbal digs & cheeky riposte’s .. one of them will Snap soon enough ;), coz’ they both got the local power , sucking it dry together, with little left to chew on but each other ..
Some interesting developments.. time & place
for D’conversation with grace.. OT
Spock .. beam me up, the clock is ticking & tell Scottie to boot the energisers all round, for to handle the Mother Tsunami of Wave Energy, (all the Enterprise can muster), & for incoming extra flack & ‘tack’ of attention attack, especially of all short attention span crew members, who may be missing time, due to disorientation of spacial awareness & GPS relay positioning manipulations plus some WikiFunky jazzy mind manipulation, to boot: in a time, when Guccifer 2;0 might well soon need relocating or relays or some new devices .. be ready 🙂 I digress , OT Over&out the big ‘OBSEBENE’
Crazy world where all things are numbered, but nobody gets it , yet ..
binary, innit’ Spock?
Logical .. A.i. softwaresimples :),
since 1938 really 🙂

reinertorheit
reinertorheit

“Flushed anyone out” recently, have you, Mark Gobell?????????

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Correction : 14 April 2013 should have read 14 September 2014
as per the date calculator links.and the NYT article :
Lavrov & Kerry agreed on a deal and Syria became a party to the CWC by placing it’s CW under international control on 14 September 2013.
14 September 2013 – “just happened to be” an INClusive :
See this post :
https://off-guardian.org/2018/06/10/ronan-tynan-kicks-off-world-cup-anti-russia-campaign-by-implying-us-war-crimes-work-of-putin/comment-page-1/#comment-123831
“The Russia / Lavrov proposal to place any remaining Syrian CW under international control, led to Syria’s accession to the CWC Treaty on 14 September 2013”
MG

balkydj

All true enough, but you seem to be overlooking who owns & controls the agenda of the whole mainstream media ! ? Who find it all Highly Convenient (massive understatement) now , that you are thinking such thoughts, looking over there at the Skripal case, whilst the Leveson 2 inquiry has just been totally derailed & finally rejected .. despite AE9/11’s advances towards legal ramifications, after discrediting NIST &&& all others pathetic public cognitive dissonance in denial of Physics… !
Coz’ the Zionist powers that be (TPTB) , which rule the dissemination of news, the agenda & timing of same , all in relation to financial market investments also , and Ramping APARTHEID , really don’t want to have to go to court and start answering highly volatile questions & issues , like WMD’s & all that jazz, that can be evidenced with ABSOLUTE SCIENTIFIC CLARITY & Certitude: indeed since 9/11 onwards, including WTC 7 & the ENRON SEC investigation , which included not just pension fund manipulation, but speculative investments with Certitude, based on Weaponised Weather with HAARP, for profit on commodity deals & turning back dust bowl states created in the US, to buy up land on the cheap for GMO production with fellow investors (in the grand secret immoral scheming abuse of Science), like Monsanto & GEC ..
Lands effectively turned from private productivity to nothing (but Dust Bowl States of rundown dried out farms & farmers) into productive GMO commodity producers , again , “turning Water into Wine” when the Corporate Command Strategy so desires .. with HAARP & weaponised weather ..
Don’t tell me you thought what just happened to Puerto Rico was just a bit of bad luck weather wise ??
Hedge Fund Managers paradise lost in Paulson’s Puerto Rico ? don’t believe the hype in the NYT!
All things insured, now they are going to buy up the poor man on the cheap, simply said !
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/business/wall-street-paulson-puerto-rico-hedge-funds.html
See the pattern ? Where were we ? Ah, the Skripals & the Russians ??
Sorry, are we still fighting this phoney war on terror, for Corporations ? All for Zion ??
And APARTHEID RULES !!
Any judge who can’t see the whole Terror – Hype – Tragedy cycle in seconds, must have been living up the Limpopo for the last 20 years .. or corrupted >>
coz’ Leveson 2 would see the patterns of degenerate societal behaviours of the Corporate World during the last 20 years: all controlled via communications and the mainstream media of Zion Directorship.
You were saying .. ?? 😉

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

The Independent State of Syria and the “alleged August 2013 CW event” in Ghouta, Damascus on 20 / 21 August 2013
Post WW1, Sykes-Picot, implemented via the San Remo Conference, at the Syrian National Congress, the Independent State of Syria was established with King Faisal as Head of State on 8 March 1920.
Sykes-Picot : “A Syrian National Congress meeting in Damascus declared an independent state of Syria on the 8th of March 1920. The new state intended to include portions of Syria, Palestine, and northern Mesopotamia. Faisal was declared the head of State.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Remo_conference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_National_Congress
*
On 20 August 2012, Barack Obama issued his “red line” warning on Syria’s alleged use of CWs.
Washington Post : Monday 20 August 2012 : “Obama issues Syria a ‘red line’ warning on chemical weapons”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-issues-syria-red-line-warning-on-chemical-weapons/2012/08/20/ba5d26ec-eaf7-11e1-b811-09036bcb182b_story.html?utm_term=.5dca23a6d755
*
Like clockwork, on the 1st anniversary of Obama’s red line warning, on 20 August 2013 ( London & Washington time ) and at 02:30 am on 21 August 2013 Damascus time, the first of two alleged CW incidents are reported to have taken place in Ghouta.
Ghouta chemical attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
“The Ghouta chemical attack occurred in Ghouta, Syria during the Syrian Civil War, in the early hours of 21 August 2013. ”
Eastern Ghouta attack
The first attack took place around 2:30 a.m. on 21 August 2013 [70][71] in Eastern Ghouta, a rebel-held suburb to the east of Damascus.[72]

Western Ghouta attack
The second attack took place in the Western Ghouta area around 5:00 in the morning on 21 August.
*
From the establishment of the Independent State of Syria on 8 March 1920
to the alleged Ghouta, Syria CW incident on 20 August 2013 is :
ISUAF =
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=168323#168323
= 888 months, 888 weeks, 888 days
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=8&m1=3&y1=1920&type=add&ay=&am=888&aw=888&ad=888&rec=
*
Classic kabbalism to schedule false flag terrorism.
The clear message was : “There’s your red line Obama. What are you going to do about it ?”
As per the Salisbury incident, same message to Theresa May …
Same method, same perps …
MG

balkydj

Real glad you pulled in the Data on Sykes Picot : I was suspecting this and needed some solid reference pointers for my GPS and when you see a 1,000 km dead straight redline drawn through territory in history, you’d have to be a mental [email protected], to ignore its’ significance, mathematically speaking 🙂 chuckle ..

vierotchka

Well, well, well, fancy that!
UK medics treated Skripals for opioid overdose until Porton Down tests showed nerve agent poisoning
Published time: 30 May, 2018 03:24
https://www.rt.com/uk/428178-medics-treated-skripals-opioids/

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

And that was reported at the time.
So what?

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

The uk NHS has absolutely no obligation to prove how the Skripals’ lives were saved.
You’re wasting your time.
It has long been known that opioid overdose was first suspected.
That is why atropine was immedialtly administered by the paramedics. Atropine is also an antidote for nerve agent poisoning.
Are you confused, or trying to confuse?
You’re all certainly very ungrateful for saving their lives.
Understandable maybe as Sergei is a traitor, yes?

JudyJ
JudyJ

“Atropine is also an antidote for nerve agent poisoning”. Yes, but only a temporary antidote to keep the airways open so the patient can breath until a bespoke antidote can be administered without delay. Atropine doesn’t cure or prevent damage to the internal organs. That can only be prevented by an antidote unique to the nerve agent in question. If atropine was the answer why on earth would worldwide Govts bother going to the expense of researching and developing antidotes for nerve agents? That is why the sceptics among us do not believe a nerve agent was administered at all. Are we really supposed to believe that three people were affected by one of the deadliest nerve agents known to man, were not treated for nerve agent poisoning until two days later, yet have still emerged with very little – if any – evidence of health issues. You mentioned elsewhere your defence of the supposed four hour delay in the nerve agent taking effect. And both of the Skripals, with different metabolisms, struck down at exactly the same time after a four hour delay? Ah, yes, you explained that Yulia must have had a lesser dose as she wasn’t the main target and it was therefore – or so we are supposed to surmise – just a coincidence that they succumbed simultaneously. Well where does DS Bailey fit in that scenario? Nothing like a four hour delay for him…unless of course he was with the Skripals at the time they were affected. Now there’s a thought to conjure with.

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

JudyJ
✖️Your comment is completely made-up.
And, again, the only ever case of a Novichok being fatal took FIVE years to kill:-
Russia well knows this and could offer assistance, but they won’t, will they?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/22/andrei-zheleznyakov-soviet-scientist-poisoned-novichok

frank
frank

HI Veracity. Trolling here as well as the independent i see.

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

No one gives a damn what you or anyone on the internet surmise.
You are not judge and almost certainly will not ever be jury.
Who said they succumbed at exactly the same time?
Bailey was contaminated at a different time and was taken ill at a different time.
And that was from secondary or tietary contamination.
And all of this is irrelevant.
Novichok was in their blood stream. The intital symptoms were superseded and the treatment adjusted.
They were treated very quickly with atropine which was very good luck.
.

reinertorheit
reinertorheit

Likewise, no-one on this site gives a single damn what you or your trillion toll aliases have cut-paste from Breitbart or the Daily Wail in lieu of having an opnion of your own.
We are all heatily sick of your continuous spamming of this messageboard. Please leave, and take all your 101 sockpuppet identities when you go.

Mishko
Mishko

So Mr. Skripal is a ‘desaparecido’, but without the in-your-face junta.
Lost in limbo, the in-between spaces, neither here nor anywhere.

flamingosarepink
flamingosarepink

The Skripal poisoning is a ‘dead parrot’ story line and I find it hugely amusing when people go to foolish lengths to support the official line and totally undermine their credibility with ludicrous references.
Now, where is the identikit image of the perpetrator widely distributed so the public can inform on them and denounce this evil doer? Indeed where is the video evidence of this latter day anarchist surreptitiously sneaking about, paintbrush in hand, dabbing stuff on doorhandles, car doors, bus seats, parking meters or whatever. The village must be the most intensely CCTV scanned village in the UK!! Come to think of it I haven’t even seen an image of DC Bailey either.
So in the absence of an image of this evil perpetrator, I suggest a global invitation from the worlds cartoonists to draft something suitable. Then a panel of suitable comedians to nominate worthies PLUS a benefactor or two that will pay for a letterbox distribution to every one in Salisbury (and Theresa May’s and Jeremy Corbyn’s constituency). Have a laugh at the expense of the permanent state in the UK. This just a rare moment that opens the door to a thorough ridicule.

Mulga Mumblebrain
Mulga Mumblebrain

Flaming, the May regime and the UK ‘intelligence’ (almost as oxymoronic as ‘military intelligence’)have been truly incompetent in managing this false-flag operation, but they don’t care, nor need to. Because no matter how stupid, plainly fraudulent or outright laughable their lies, the fakestream media presstitutes will regurgitate it WITHOUT QUESTION, while reliably stoking the flames of Russophobic hatred.

balkydj

Well said: it all kinda’ begs the questions to be presented in a Pythonesque or Spitting Cobra image styling of Gavin Williamson , before engagement:-
1) Right: “Can you keep a secret ..?”
2) Left unsaid: “D’Norwegian Necrophiliac(ed) Blue Parrot Porton Porn story of snakes on Salisbury Plain is a No Go Zone, is that clear ? ? , talk about Elephants, chimps terrorists & Russia is compulsory, but anything else absurd ; Agreed ?”
3) &TDC “Would you like a shot of Black Label Novichok Vodka, for a proper Russka Zakuska & a StarBucks double espresso café latte to boot the rush on Russia?”
N.B. The Novichok Vodka with black label is an actual product, now on sale as sign of the times .. you nailed it, humour is such a humbling thing, ‘en masse’ and the Bulgarians maybe poverty stricken , with lovely new Swedish Gripen Fighters to finance, but their sin for humour is indefatigable, like Novichok Vodka and it will sell out , i’m sure 😉

Mark Gobell
Mark Gobell

Dr Christine Blanchard’s circular logic :
BBC News showing clips from tonight’s Newsnight and Mark Urban in the news studio :
Mark Urban : When you ask questions like “Is this really all that it seems”, they push back quite hard. Listen to this from medical Directro Dr Christine Blanchard.
Newsnight clip :
Mark Urban : For those people who say “Oh if this was nerve agent they’d be dead”, what would your response to that be ?
Dr Chrstine Blanchard : ( smiles ) Well they’re not …
MG

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

What’s wrong with that?

Kaiama
Kaiama

Possibly circular logic isn’t really logic? Better think about it some more.

Brad Pitte II
Brad Pitte II

Even if she didn’t write it (and she did) it wouldn’t matter as she signed it, (and both versions).
You are all wasting your time.
Uk law applies 100%.
-Particularly the guy who keeps going in about 666

Estaugh
Estaugh

There has been no UK law since our fraudulent entry into the EEC in 1972, (at least). We are under occupation of Corporate EU powers and we are governed by Quisling authorities. Factually, the only Law applicable on the territory at present is Art.61 of Magna Carta 1215.