Conspiracies Are Not All Theoretical

Alison Broinowski

Before the 2016 election, candidate Donald Trump told voters he would ‘find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center.’ His promise may turn out to be as empty as his predecessor’s undertaking to close down Guantánamo Bay. Or he may be prevented from keeping it by those who know the truth.

Trump, an expert in false facts, questioned the version of events provided by the 9/11 Commission Report. More significantly, so did many scientists, engineers, and intelligence analysts. Experts from a wide range of countries at The Toronto Hearings on 9/11 in 2011 produced a DVD two years later, subtitled ‘Uncovering Ten Years of Deception’. The facts are presented in several books, including those by David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Paul Thompson and Nafeez Ahmed: but many still can’t believe them.

When Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was asked in 1996 if the deaths of half a million Arab children following Gulf War I was justified, she infamously replied, ‘I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it’ (US ‘60 Minutes,’ 12 May 1996). Most of the people who died on and after 11 September 2001 were not Arabs or children, yet their 3000-plus deaths caused much greater international outrage than those in Iraq. It set off a war of retribution that killed hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, and Syria, injured many more, and is still doing so. On a rough calculation, each of the New York and Washington deaths was worth at least 30 Iraqis.

Were any of these deaths ‘worth it’? Or worth the US$7 trillion plus cost of the war? In April 2018 a group of American lawyers who thought not, petitioned the Administration to reopen the 9/11 inquiry. In July, five years after the report of The Toronto Hearings appeared, the same question was raised in a series of open letters to President Trump. They have attracted surprisingly little media notice except among readers of the online American Herald Tribune. The writers are qualified and serious, and the conspiracy they all suspect is far from theoretical.

Barbara Honneger, a White House policy analyst to President Ronald Reagan and senior military affairs writer for the Naval Postgraduate School, informs Trump in her open letter that the ‘Official Story of the Pentagon is false in every respect.’ She shows that the attack happened almost eight minutes earlier than the report stated; military officers reported smelling cordite before the impact; major destruction was not due to a plane collision but to pre-planted explosives; if there was a plane, it was smaller than a 757, so it was not American Airlines 77; that flight was not mentioned until 15 September (so what happened to it?); and its flight path was different from what was reported. Her clinching arguments are that the deaths and destructive fire occurred in the two inner rings of the Pentagon, not in the outer ring; and columns were left standing in the outer ring right where a 757 was supposed to have hit the building.

Turning to the World Trade Center, Honneger asserts that explosions occurred in the basement of both towers before the planes hit them: 14 seconds before for WTC1, and 17 seconds for WTC2. She has produced a documentary, Behind the Smoke Curtain, which claims Vice-President Cheney and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld led US collaboration with Israel in the attacks to provide a pretext for war against Iraq.

Another letter-writer to Trump, Scott Bennett, a military officer, was a contractor for Booz Allen Hamilton (like Edward Snowden). He was assigned to US Central Command to keep track of terrorists’ sources of funds, as well as to investigate US$2.3 trillion allegedly misappropriated by Dov Zackhaim who was US Terrorist Financing Operations Director, and Bennett’s superior. Bennett suspected that an Iraqi linked to Rudy Giulliani, and Zackhaim’s son, a lawyer on the House Armed Services Committee, were also involved. ‘Conveniently,’ Bennett writes, the auditors working on this in the Office of Naval Intelligence were killed on 9/11 when ‘a missile’ hit the Pentagon in ‘a false-flag attack on American soil’.

Susan Lindauer had been a journalist and was a Congressional staffer when she met and befriended a CIA officer in Washington. She writes in Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover-Ups of 9/11 and Iraq (2010) what he told her in April 2001: the CIA expected a major terrorist air attack on the WTC in three or four months, which might include a mini-nuclear device. She was to warn Iraqi diplomats that if Baghdad was found to have knowledge of it, there was threat of war. She also warned an academic friend, Parke Godfrey, to get his family out of New York.

For ‘acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government’ before the 2003 Iraq invasion, Lindauer was indicted in 2004 and held without trial in a mental facility in 2005-6 until she was found ‘mentally unfit’ to stand trial. The prosecution was dropped in 2009. Since then, Lindauer has been an anti-war activist and, perhaps unsurprisingly, a critic of the US Government and a writer to Trump.

A fourth of the July letter-writers is Canadian academic Peter Dale Scott, best known for his accounts of the Deep State. He advises Trump that Dallas 1963, Watergate 1972-74, and 9/11 were Deep Events resulting in the permanent militarisation of the US. Vice-President Cheney ordered President Bush and Attorney-General Ashcroft out of DC in advance of 9/11, which Scott argues the Vice-President had planned with Rumsfeld for two decades.

The Toronto conference uncovered ten years of deception and ‘state crimes against democracy’ which beggar belief. The letter-writers to Trump reveal more, which are still disputed. People who know ‘who knocked down the WTC’ may well be working now to stop Trump keeping his promise to find out.

Dr Alison Broinowski FAIIA is a former Australian diplomat and is writing her sixth monograph, a book on terrorism.

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flaxgirl
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I was mistaken. We do see people recovering in hospital. Here are alleged burns victims. The last one suffers vitiligo. They often use people who some of skin thing happening or previous injuries – this is a girl on 9/11 who looks as if she’s suffered previous burn injuries https://www.google.com.au/search?q=9/11+injured&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZwprXtcTdAhXa7GEKHSI0CjQQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=938#imgrc=ARHUZUBVWDHMEM:

youtube.com/watch?v=rpadxgHuMEg
youtube.com/watch?v=EXUYp89NLZY
youtube.com/watch?v=LTx18_yI3Xk

axisofoil
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Flaxgirl will love this.
Had 9/11 happened in Russia, the survivors would have received a visit from their president. Then we would have some evidence on film….or would we? That too could be faked. It’s difficult to know if anything is true anymore. 9/11 has proved one thing. Truth is irrelevant.I have often thought that was it’s sole purpose.

flaxgirl
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Thanks for the video, axisofoil. Apologies I thought you were being sarcastic and I didn’t look at it before. It’s gold.

flaxgirl
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Particularly this comment on the video by Nicholas Orsini. I was in NYC on 911 and tried to help at a triage unit … there were no injured there at all. It was about 8 blocks away from where the Towers were … I asked an EMS worker where the injured were and his response was there were no injured victims..I also watched vehicles coming out of the area and did not see any crushed or flattened vehicles at all … I was there from 12:00 PM until 9:30 PM … all the vehicles that were coming out of the… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Axisoffoil, can you point me to a single photo of one the alleged 6000 injured that shows an image inconsistent with someone participating in a drill? If not, do you think I should nevertheless accept this figure … Well, of course I should, shouldn’t I as everything else they told us about 9/11 was true how can I doubt that? Do you really believe that the widows of four men who died from controlled demolition of the twin towers politely asked Kissinger about the Bin Laden family being a client, to which he responded by nearly falling off his chair?… Read more »

axisofoil
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I don’t want to avoid you’re question but I have a different take on reality that would convoluted my answer into something unintelligible. I can’t guarantee any photo of anything anywhere is accurate in what it purports to represent. I do think the whole drill phenomena is very interesting.I rather like the thought of nobody dying on 9/11. There are so many anomalies with 9/11 that I suppose your issue is as valid as any. The 16 year quest for truth is just bouncing off walls. If we look too closely at reality we will surely fall in and get… Read more »

flaxgirl
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But who would pay me for this? Who on earth? The power elite certainly do NOT want the truth out about no deaths. No way. That is why they’ve implemented their truther-targeted propaganda campaign. While truthers don’t have the whole truth themselves they can’t get it out – and that’s what the perps want. Then again, even with the whole truth it’s difficult because people are funny about deaths. When they have felt sorrow over deaths they believe to be real they find it offensive and sacrilegious to have them questioned. I have to say I’m simply not like that.… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Truly, axisofoil, I’m just a prosaic, logical thinker who, it’s true, is obsessed by false flags – or rather false flag hoaxes – I keep waiting to get over it but something always pops up to continue my interest. Prior to this I was a climate activist and I keep thinking I need to give up the false flag stuff and get back to climate activism as it’s so important but I keep at it, alienating my friends from me and me from them. I cottoned onto 9/11 and other events four years ago when I clicked a link to… Read more »

axisofoil
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I think about the ‘Kill anything that moves’ policy in Vietnam and what we still do all around the world today. We, as well as many other countries have a lot of blood on our hands. Human life is cheap, so I can’t say about the Tower situation. Can you believe we’re even having this conversation? There are several accounts of motive for destroying incriminating information in the towers as well as bldg. #7. There is also the missing gold. There is the case of the work being done at the Pentagon on the missing trillions …..now all destroyed. This… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

axisofoil: a quick note on your theory of neurophenomenology. Cognitive science has shown that it is the unconscious mind that has “first contact with experience”. We process sense-data and pre-dispositionally categorise experience according to accumulated memory, habituated belief, and prior assumption. And we do it all unconsciously. What becomes conscious is a fraction of the neuro-cognitive experience (rule of thumb: 95% unconscious, 5% conscious). That is the neuroscientists view: I would concur that the unconscious and conscious result from a parallel processing and arise together. But that is theory, for the moment. I would add that the unconscious is not… Read more »

axisofoil
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Mr.B I really enjoyed reading that. Using my model for the moment, let’s then take the things you mentioned into consideration. I see the 5 senses as the 5% of first contact. The 95% rather like a program which facilitates the 100% experience. The preconceptions of the 95% will determine how the 5% perceives and interprets all 5% stimulus. This 5% is an external sensor internally governed by the 95% habitual pattern. This 95% is also modified by our collective human experience. In results using an MRI to measure brain activity, there is up to a 7 second delay in… Read more »

ChrisG
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ChrisG

Flaxgirl> your no-deaths from 9/11, (except by accident), hypothesis, seems to rest on the perpetrators having no motive to kill American citizens. Please explain then why these ‘so considerate’ perpetrators saturated Lower Manhattan with asbestos, and many other toxic substances. Yes, people have been killed because of 9/11 and continue to be killed. Even if pictures, witness testimony, and video can’t convince you of murder, the simple fact of collapsing the twin towers laden with toxic materials in a highly populated area, makes the perpetrators murderers. There is no way short of insanity that anyone can get round that fact.

flaxgirl
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Yes, the toxic materials are a very big issue. I cannot explain how the people who would be affected by these materials aren’t going ballistic. There are some people but they’re not as militant or as in great number as you’d expect. I didn’t say the perps were considerate. Never considerate to the unwashed masses. No they treat us like fools and scum. I say that they didn’t have a particular reason to kill the 3000 or injure the 6000 and it would have been highly problematic for them to do so considering the clear evidence of controlled demolition. I’m… Read more »

ChrisG
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ChrisG

They might not have had a particular reason to kill 3000 people of mixed nationality at 9/11, but that does not logically feed into the fact that they didn’t. Whether there was a drill or not is irrelevant, they were still quite willing to submerge Lower Manhattan with dangerous toxic materials so why should they be bothered regarding deaths at the actual event? Please don’t answer, the question answers itself.

(P.S. Have a good day).

flaxgirl
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I’d just like to make a case here for those who believe that 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured on 9/11 from both a logical and evidential point of view: LOGICAL: 9/11 was a terror event where the power elite wanted us to think that 19 terrorists hijacked four planes which ultimately led to the collapses of buildings and the deaths and injuries of 9,000 people. There is no evidence suggesting that the power elite WANTED to kill and injure those people, only that they wanted us to think it. As the evidence of controlled demolition is so obvious,… Read more »

Daniel Bruno
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This comment is a perfect example of the disinfo Cass Sunstein called for to disorient serious inquiry into 9/11.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Exactly! A perfectly obsessed example of the type.

flaxgirl
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Hiilarious. Cass Sunstein is the biggest disinfo agent out there. Oh my goodness.

Big B
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Big B

Occam’s Razor actually stipulates that pluralities are only added by necessity. It is not a proof either way The simplest explanation is not always correct: complex theories do exist. Application as a proof provides for logical fallacy …so your money is safe. Citing it as a challenge to rationality, well, I’m not really sure where you are going? Weak opinion, strongly defended? Do you not think that clearing the buildings would signal advance-knowledge? How do you clear a building in central NY without anyone noticing? Were are the witness testimonies that they were told to get out? The Port Authority… Read more »

vexarb
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vexarb

Or use your $5,000 to gumshoe around New York interviewing friends and relatives of the 1,600 persons whose names are read out on Sept 9th each year. You may find they are more convincing than a handful of MSM photos.

flaxgirl
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But vexarb why is there only a handful of photos? Shouldn’t the photographic record PROVIDE us with evidence. Why is only a handful of photos available and why are all the photos of the injured perfectly consistent with participation in a drill?

I really do not understand. The logic of them not wanting to actually kill and injure for real is simply so strong. It would make no sense for them to do it for real. None at all.

flaxgirl
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I take your point about Occam’s Razor. What I’ve done is put forward 10 points for 4 events. So far no one has put forward a SINGLE point favouring the opposing hypothesis for any of those 4 events. So my 10 points may not be considered proof as such, however, if my 10 points are valid and no one can up with 10 (or, so far, even one) favouring the opposing hypothesis I’d say, if not proof per se, pretty compelling, no? The buildings didn’t need to be cleared in advance, Big B. As the plane crashed was faked what… Read more »

Big B
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Big B

There was a militant reaction though: especially when Bush nominated Kissinger to lead the enquiry …four of the widows ‘persuaded’ him to recuse himself. Are you really suggesting that 2-3,000 people decided to leave the country in secret, and never contact their loved ones again? That’s illogical. Or were they all crisis actors? Because that is even more illogical. By your own definition: the simplest explanation is that they died. You have created an enormous burden of proof if you want to contend otherwise. They wanted their ‘Pearl Harbour’ but without casualties: your logic sanitises the most evil men in… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Engaging with a hasbara (denying the five dancing Israelis-really, how blatant can it get?)disinfo hack is a waste of energy.

flaxgirl
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Oh yes, the Jersey widows nearly had Kissinger “fall off his chair” when they questioned him about the Bin Laden family being a client … sadly he was replaced by no less of an insider, Philip Zelikow. So much for the militance of the Jersey widows. Big B, what the perps did was implement a truther-targeted propaganda campaign with a bunch of disinformation agents pushing out their suspicion of government/recognition of controlled demolition while at the same time pushing out their dead husband, son, colleague. What was really important to the perps was that all of us, truther and believer… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

You clearly like to place complex events in the real world into boxes, which you define, with clear borders, according to your warped belief system…or what you are told to say. Good luck, but it doesn’t work with the rest of us here. Try writing for the “strange” or “weird” pages of one of the MSM organs, you’ll do very well there, but you are way short of the intellect and independence of mind required to compete and influence here. Now bugger off.

flaxgirl
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I’ve had two articles published in Off-Guardian, Frankly Speaking. I really don’t understand your hostility. What I say has both a logical and evidential basis. It’s incredibly straightforward. 9/11 was a psyop where the only real thing the perps wanted was to bring down the buildings. They didn’t want to kill 3,000 or injure 6,000 obviously because the loved ones and the injured themselves would be marching on the capitol, not politely questioning Kissinger about a relationship with a client. So if they didn’t want to kill and injure the only question is, “Were they able to fake it?” Yes,… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

So footage of people about to burn alive and to avoid it launch themselves from x stories high, plunging to an instant death below is not enough evidence? I utterly despair at the mental health of a segment of the “Conspiracy Community”. They are completely disconnected from the real world. Of course there are some conspiracies. Of course WTC 7 is the best example of a demolition job and evidence of major holes in the official story, I even watched it live as the BBC reporter announced it’s demise half an hour before it was actually brought down. But to… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

This type, Frankly, are designed to discredit the real and plain explanations of the 9/11 false-flag operation, through guilt by association. The fakestream media brainwashing system will emphasise the lunatics denying that the atrocity even occurred, as with Sandy Hook, while ignoring the five dancing Israelis, and all the other evidence that points to Israel, facts that are absolutely verboten to be aired, ever.

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

Indeed Mulga.

flaxgirl
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Mulga I have done four 10-point Occam’s Razor exercises: —9/11 – WTC-7 a controlled demolition —9/11 – 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured, a lie —Manchester bombing, a drill pushed out as real —Sandy Hook shooting, a drill pushed out as real I have put my money where my mouth is and offered $5,000 to anyone who can provide the same exercise with favouring of hypotheses reversed. If you really believe that Sandy Hook was real and that 3,000 died and 6,000 were injured on 9/11 please enter my challenge. You can choose your own judge – anyone who works in… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

You won’t accept any evidence because you are wedded to your irrational beliefs. The evidence is there already yet you say it’s all fake or staged. You’re already beyond help.

As Mulga says, people like you discredit genuine and rational alternative views.

I won’t accuse you of being a planted provocateur, but such types do exist and they sound similar to you. Still, i give you the benefit of some doubt, for now.

flaxgirl
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What evidence are you referring to Frankly Speaking?

The evidence I am interested in is that of 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured. I see none. Can you point me to any photographic evidence that is clearly real and/or not consistent with people participating in a drill?

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

The photographic and video evidence is overwhelming, you just don’t want to accept it, instead you have your own belief system. I watched people jumpging that day. You are utterly deluded. If those photographs at the link posted by axisofoil don’t spark just one neuron of sense into you, nothing will, so there’s absolutely no point in continuing any conversation with a zealot like you, or perhaps you are a disinfo troll.

flaxgirl
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The photos show gore, Frankly Speaking, that is not clearly identified as real. Gore can be both faked and real, likewise the jumpers. Rather than focus on gore let’s focus on the injured. There is not a single photo of the alleged 6,000 injured that does not look as if it’s inconsistent of a photo of a person in a drill. I assert that for a real event where 6,000 people were injured it would be impossible that not a single photo is not inconsistent with a drill. Every single photo could easily be of a person participating in a… Read more »

vexarb
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vexarb

Flaxgirl, you yourself have produced one photo for Admin which you called “gruesome” but you said it was fake; it does not look fake to me — and I posted to that effect without further comment. Now, because you insist on harping on your one string — Occam’s Razor — I go further and say that Occam’s Razor itself selects that particular photo as more likely to be genuine than fake. But I shall not debate it in public here — firstly out of respect for the dignity of the dead — and because you have already wasted as much… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Sorry, vexarb, I didn’t read your question properly. You can email me to debate the body count at petral@iinet.net.au.

flaxgirl
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vexarb, I’d also be willing to debate whether the photo is of a real or fake corpse but I agree in not following that line, not out of respect for the dead, as I don’t believe the bodies are real but because gore is unpleasant, real or fake, and there is no need. We can simply focus on the injured. We were told that 6,000 people were injured but of the photos available, none of them show anyone who looks inconsistent with participation in a drill. I have posted 14 photos of the injured in my Occam’s Razor exercise. I… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Mulga, “the dancing Israelis” are simply propaganda targeted at the truthers. The perps would have had a great laugh over them. What a great chortle. As if intelligence agents (that’s what they were alleged to be, wasn’t it? or was that another bunch?) are going to carry on like that except with a clear intention.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Now the hasbara come outs to play.

flaxgirl
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As I’ve commented already, Mulga, I have put my money where my mouth is and invite you to respond to do the same. In fact, you only have to put your mouth, not your money.
http://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/5000-challenge.html

It’s not that I don’t think that Israel was involved in 9/11. Of course it was. So many people in the US corridors of power involved in 9/11 who are US/Israeli dual citizens. Of course! But the dancing Israelis is pure propaganda designed to distract and mislead.

flaxgirl
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Frankly speaking, can you point out how that footage could only be real and not faked?

Do you accept that there is no clear evidence of any of the four planes crashing and that the footage of Flight 175 “melting” into the South tower is clearly faked as Newton’s 2nd and 3rd Laws of Motion invalidate a 200 ton airliner melting into a 500,000 ton building in the manner shown?

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/momentum/Lesson-2/The-Law-of-Action-Reaction-(Revisited)

intp1
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intp1

While, I do believe Newton’s laws of motion are breached by the official explanation of the building’s collapse, I do not follow how they are invalidated by this collision. Calc: A 250,000 lb aircraft with a velocity of 500 knots, combines with a 500,000 short ton building, decelerating to zero. The combined momentum transfer leaves the building travelling at about 6cm/sec. The WT towers swayed by that much routinely. Also, the outer steel was not super strong and did not carry the bulk of the load of the building. It was the steel core around the elevators in the center… Read more »

wittym
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wittym

@Flaxgirl on 9/15/18 I would rather be in a Mac Truck (WTC2) that weighed 4000 times more than the Boeing sedan. Many people in the Mac Truck were walking out until it exploded into pieces & dust, floor by floor, accelerating at near free fall. It is the by design, equal and opposite reaction of the strength of the steel against Gravity pulling it downwards, (Newton’s 3rd Law) that keeps the building up and which can only be absent if you rapidly and systematically remove all that steel before the floors above accelerate onto the floors below. As they can… Read more »

flaxgirl
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So in a collision between a Mack truck and a sedan, if it was the sedan going 100 km/h and the Mack truck was stationary you’d rather be in the sedan, you wouldn’t prefer to be in the Mack truck regardless of which vehicle was stationary and which going at high speed?

intergenerationaltrauma
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It is hard for many in the U.S. to get their mind around the idea that the U.S. government would willfully kill thousands of it’s own citizens in the 9/11 false flag. Part of the reason this is difficult for Americans to grasp is that most Americans have no knowledge whatsoever of the CIA/NATO role in slaughtering Western Europeans over decades through Operation Gladio. Most Americans also have never cracked a single book by the many excellent investigative journalists to study the U.S. political assassinations of the 1960’s. Had they bothered to look they would see massive evidence of State… Read more »

Schlüter
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See also:
“A Sad Anniversary: 17 Years Since Nine Eleven and a Sign on the Wall”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2018/09/12/a-sad-anniversary-17-years-since-nine-eleven-and-a-sign-on-the-wall/
And very dangerous is the conspiracy between the Power Elite and the media to turn reality upside down:
„Media, Independent and Mainstream: Fake News and Fake Narratives“: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/12/18/media-independent-and-mainstream-fake-news-and-fake-narratives/
Weekend regards

vexarb
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vexarb

Interesting. This article comes from the Wonderful Land of Oz. By my count that makes 4 real names ATL (eg Tim Anderson, John Pilger) and another half dozen pseudonyms I’ve noticed BTL. Must be som.thing in the air down under.

Good on yer! cobbers.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Austfailure has been sinking into a Rightwing sewer since the Whitlam Government, our one and only decent, sane and intelligent Federal Government, was destroyed by the USA working in alliance with our local Right, and Satan Murdoch. We will get another installment of our comeuppance this summer, as an El Nino plus the climate destabilisation that our Right and the Murdoch media cancer STILL furiously deny, devastates the land. I expect a great, possibly terminal, bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef, for a start, and if not this year, soon, very soon.

vexarb
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vexarb

Mulga, I am sorry for all that bad in Oz as elsewhere in “The West”, but take heart; population genetics shows there have been “bottlenecks” where the human race went down to just a handful of survivors in some places before it began to climb there again. There is good seed in Oz, hope they make it through the looming Anthropogenic 6th Mass Extinction.

“Cry, cry on the bad / But may the good prevail!” — Aeschyles

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The good have lost, comprehensively, in Austfailure, throughout my life. It is hard to be optimistic, but thanks for your kind words.

whatsleft
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whatsleft

While I appreciate the serious investigation of the events of 9/11, appealing to an out and out fascist to be an ally is utter folly.

Lucas Wheeler
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Lucas Wheeler

I am just sorry Trump isn’t really a fascist😉

Yonatan
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Yonatan

The US has been a fascist state (= by the corporation, for the corporations) for decades. All US presidents are just gatekeepers for that fascism. Trump may be more honest than the rest.

Big B
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Big B

I realise that for this short synopsis Alison Broinowski had to condense everything down. For brevity, and necessity, therefore, she has had to leave out the most vital common denominator that links all the ‘structural deep events’ (SDEs) in Peter Dale Scott’s work: the Continuity Of Government (COG) planning network. This has grown into a supra-military, supra-intelligence transnational parapolitical Deep State: with its own crypto-clearance (beyond Top-Secret); untraceable ultra-communications network; and access to black ‘off-the-books’ terrorist financing and dark money networks (for instance, the former BCCI). http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38151.htm It was within this network Cheney and Rumsfeld were embedded for 20 years:… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

You must not underestimate the influence of the Israel First Zionazis in the ruling Western, mostly ‘Five Eyes’, cabal. They add, with their clerico-fascist ideology, an added dimension of not just utter immorality, but an active genocidal drive against their ‘enemies’, ie anyone who refuses to bow and grovel before them. The crucifixion of Corbyn is a perfect example of their modus operandi, minus, so far, only their habitual recourse to murder.

robjira
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robjira

Excellent comment, though extremely alarming. And yes, do take care of yourself.

Butties
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Dear BB I hope you live in a very secure secret place. Please keep it up for us novices.

vexarb
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vexarb

Trump knows what really happened on 911 because he is a NYC real estate developer, just like Lucky Larry Silverstein. As long as he keeps this knowledge written up and tucked away to be opened only at his death, Trump is safe.

rtj1211
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Are you saying all NYC skyscrapers are loaded up with explosives to allow controlled demolition at short notice in an emergency?

bill
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bill

can anyone credibly come up with the kind of emergency which might necessitate detonation of the said pre-fixed explosives ? Against a risk of accidental detonation? And no one knew ? No one noticed? Are all sniffer-dogs now redundant?

Jim Scott
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Jim Scott

I did not read that rtj1211. I read about the twin towers buildings but not all buildings in New York. Best not to exaggerate don’t you think?

flaxgirl
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An essential thing to understand about how the power elite perpetrate their terror hoaxes is that they understand how people group into those who question and those who don’t and for those who question they have “special” propaganda campaigns just for them. They know that the truth can be easily determined but they know that only a small percentage of the population will bother with that truth so they push out the “truth” (or more accurately a distorted version of it) that anyone can determine (never, of course, truth that is not in the public domain one way or another)… Read more »

rtj1211
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One question: if 3000 people did not die on 9/11, where were 3000 people shipped to to live 17 years completely incommunicado?

These people worked at WTC, so if they did not die but did disappear, where are they now?

Also, how were DNA identifications falsified using evidence from Ground Zero?

flaxgirl
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You’re making assumptions that they all worked at the WTC. Some were, some weren’t. They didn’t simply use the names of 3,000 real live people although some were. There are obvious people such as Barbara Olson and John O’Neill. I have no idea what happens to the well-known people (people with no profile might simply move town). Do they live the rest of their lives on a Greek island or what? It is a mystery. However a number of names are made up and they probably use the names of dead people too. The intelligence agencies would be able to… Read more »

harry stotle
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harry stotle

It is impossible to refute Alison Broinowski’s conclusion that 9/11 is part of a much wider pathology (which began with Hiroshima IMO) resulting in permenant militarisation of the US. How anyone can see a regime which aligns itself the worlds most despicable right wing gangsters and has a fearful reputation for orchestrating violence against any country that refuses to submit to its economic demands as a force for good is simply beyond me? 9/11 proves that even the pretence of restraint is no longer required because in effect there is no political opposition (with sufficient public support) nor are there… Read more »

flaxgirl
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It’s counterintuitive. The perps anticipated that people would recognise the truth about the buildings and the faked plane crashes. Of course, they anticipated it – it’s way too obvious. They’re fine with us knowing that and you really do have to wonder why they seemed to offer us WTC-7’s collapse on a platter. But they want us to believe that they really killed and injured the people. This is the lie that is really important that we believe. Because while we don’t have the whole truth – that it was a complete psyop where the only reality was the collapses… Read more »

Jim Scott
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Jim Scott

I recall that soldiers were used as crash test dummies to see what the health impact of radiation from nuclear explosions would be. Also radioactve material from nuclear energy plants was deliberately released into the air over US urban communities to test the health impacts. Currently Governments are deliberately ignoring the science on climate change to protect the interest of corporate donors even though we will be wiped out if we continue on our current path.
Not only are Western Governments psychopathic they are incredibly stupid.

axisofoil
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Very eye opening documentary….Everything is a Rich Mans Trick. I wish you well with your Occams razor challenge. You may get no response at all. Of course, you know the reason for that.

flaxgirl
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Yes, it most certainly is. In it, the filmmaker, Francis Richard Conolly, says “All terror is fake”. As this film was what first awakened me to how the world is run and I knew absolutely nothing at that point my reaction was, “Gee, that’s a big call.” Now I know the statement is no exaggeration whatsoever.

flaxgirl
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“Conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” are extremely effective propaganda weapons used to silence and discredit those who question the official narrative. There are conspiracies galore and they are happening right in front of our noses. “Gathering of evidence” is generally thought of as something that should be done when you want to prove a case but for massive Hitlerian lie/Emperor’s New Clothes events such as 9/11, you really don’t need to gather very much evidence at all and debating lots and lots of evidence is simply a waste of time and a distraction – which, of course, the perps love.… Read more »

Daniel Bruno
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Admin: This “flaxgirl” is a paid troll making outrageous claims that discredit 9/11 truth. Check up on “her” IP address and other identifiers.

flaxgirl
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My IP address? That really is a good one. I’m totally open, Daniel, totally open. But I have to say I wonder about you. It’s hilarious, isn’t it, everyone thinking everyone else is a disinfo agent. I have a website, Occam’s Razor on Terror Events, where I explain everything I believe in a perfectly straightforward manner. http://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.htm Daniel, please answer these questions: —Do you think the perps would prefer to have killed and injured the people for real or simply faked it and made us believe it? —If you think they would have preferred to do it for real, why… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

“ There are conspiracies galore and they are happening right in front of our noses.”

There are undoubtedly several conspiracies but some people think that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Conspiracy nuts think they’re very smart, but in truth it’s exceptionally lazy thinking, a cop out from real analysis of evidence and weighing it up, even considering probabilities when evidence is lacking.

flaxgirl
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I present a logical case for 3,000 deaths and 6,000 injuries not being what the perps would have done for real, this is true. But logic (or theory, if you will, is only part of it). I also refer to evidence … and, of course, the ludicrous lack of it supporting the official story.

Forever Young
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Forever Young

It’s an impossibility for the creatures responsible for the attack, to have communicated with the 3000 or so people who you claim didn’t die… To communicate with all of them and coerce them into complying with their insidious game, and to disappear from their families.. Perhaps 1 or 2 people would go along with it, and even if a few hundred of them did, that would still leave a lot of ordinary people who worked in the buildings with an awareness that something was going to happen, and that would have been reported in some form or another… It’s a… Read more »

flaxgirl
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So you believe that it’s possible for 3,000 people to die and 6,000 people to be injured without the media providing a single convincing photo of any of those 9,000 people?

Don’t speculate about what is and isn’t possible, look at the evidence.

Why are you assuming they coerced people into anything? They hired them or they’re already agents.

Please read my Occam’s Razor exercise to understand how it’s possible for them to fake the deaths and injuries just as they faked the plane crashes and propagandised us into believing the plane crashes were real and the buildings collapsed by fire.
http://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html