The US Midterms – discussion thread

the “Women’s March” 2018

The United States of America is going to the polls. Will it be a fair election, or will it be rigged? Who will win? Does it matter? Is Putin controlling the whole thing from his iPhone?

This and more feel free to discuss…


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I think this whole tawdry degrading spectacle cost somewhere well north of $5 billion. Apparently in Nevada a dead brothel owner was elected. The election campaign for 2020 will begin in a few weeks time. America seems to be permanently holding elections and election campaigns. But no issues of any substance are ever discussed or any sensible policies put forward. No sooner has it started than it all degenerates into broad farce. It all boils down to who has the nicest smile or the nicest hair style, or who might have said something racist or sexist 30 years ago. Nothing… Read more »

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Is there any overall analysis of how many of the national security state candidates were elected?

For starters, Abigail Spanberger (“who served as a CIA officer in the U.S. and abroad for eight years” according to NBC) and Elissa Slotkin (“who was a Middle East analyst for the CIA, did three tours in Iraq, and worked in the State and Defense Departments in the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations” also according to NBC) both ousted sitting Republicans in the House of Representatives.

I can’t find an analysis of this phenomenon in the Guardian. Funny that.

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This article explains well why these elections are meaningless:

The Unreal World of US Elections – Fake As A Pro Wrestling Match

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tonyopmoc

Well, assuming they didn’t make it up (sometimes it’s a little bit difficult to tell), what more do you need to know about “Democracy” in the USA??? I wish him well in his new job, and congratulate all Americans who voted for him.

“Dennis Hof, the brothel owner who died last month, wins election”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/dennis-hof-brothel-owner-who-died-last-month-wins-election-n933366

Tony

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DunGroanin

Hopefully the young future voters and true social democrats in the US will use this opportunity to grab their local party political organisations control from the DNC neocon/lib masters.

Only a grassroots membership choosing their own locally known candidates to represent them can overcome the top down centrally imposed Hobsons Choice democracy, that leads, to disaffectation, apathy and failure to vote that THEY want.

Wake up! Organise! Two years to the big one.

nomad
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that can only work in a democracy. america has become a dictatorship. or as i call it, a psychopathocracy.

nomad
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Remember remember
The sixth of November
The two party treason rot.
I see no reason
The two party treason
Ever should be forgot.

Thomas Prentice
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Thomas Prentice

ABC REPORTS BETO TO SOON GIVE CONCESSION SPEECH AT WATCH PARTY…

Ted Cruz* (R) 3,162,564 votes
50.9%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 3,010,149 votes
48.4%

Neal Dikeman (L) 39,600 votes

NBC News says TOO CLOSE TO CALL

CBS SAYS CRUZ WINS

HAVE ISRAEL AND SAUDI ARABIA MEDDLED IN THE TEXAS SENATE ELECTION OR WITH ABC AND CBS NEWS? The question is First Asked Here …

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Nate Silver
10:10 PM

ABC News has just called Texas for Ted Cruz, in a race that looks like it will wind up pretty close to the polls.

Is the fix in?

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HERE IS WHY NOTHING EVER CHANGES. OR GETS WORSE NO MATTER WHAT. REPORTING FROM NATE SILVER’S 538:

Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux
9:50 PM

According to CNN, North Carolina is a “yes” on its voter ID measure, which would amend the state’s constitution to require voters to provide photo ID when they vote in person. The legislature passed a similar requirement back in 2013, but it was overturned by the courts, saying it targeted black voters with “almost surgical precision.”

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No change to Dallas or Houston vote totals or percentages meaning ballots cast today are *** not *** in the ‘Cruz pulls ahead’ narrative in the big dem counties. But it could also work the other way. Crus can lose easily simply by not being ahead by 500,000 or a million votes in a hard Republican state.

Counts should be getting serious probably around 11 pm CST

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9:03PM DALLAS

CRUZ TAKES LEAD 75K difference

Ted Cruz* (R) 2,936,562 votes
50.3%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 2,869,446 votes
49.1%

Neal Dikeman (L) 36,014 votes

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8:44PM DALLAS TEXAS TIGHTENING UP WITH VOTES CAST TODAY BEING COUNTED AND ADDED TO THE EARLY VOTING TOTALS Beto O’Rourke (D) 2,767,309 votes 49.8% Ted Cruz* (R) 2,733,237 votes 49.2% Neal Dikeman (L) 59,024 votes Texas Rep Gov Abbott at 54% Dallas Rep Cong Pete Sessions trailing It certainly would be wry would it not if Beto pulls off a win, for that to be the only marquee win for the Dems. HOUSE OF REPS: I cannot image many things much worse than Hillary Clinton as President unless it is Nancy Pelosi (again) as Speaker. But oh well. CALIFORNIA will… Read more »

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REPOST. BULLETIN.

Harris HOUSTON 57% Beto 479K – Cruz 356K Early voting’

Dallas DALLAS 66% Beto 345K – Cruz 174K Early voting

2,686,793 Beto
2,524,315 Cruz

DO NOT SEE HOW CRUZ CAN CATCH UP. AT ALL.

As far as I can tell *** NO *** VOTES CAST TODAY HAVE BEEN COUNTED OR POSTED.

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BULLETIN.

Harris 57% Beto 479K – Cruz 356K Early voting’

Dallas 66% Beto 345K – Cruz 174K

2,686,793 Beto
2,524,315 Cruz

DO NOT SEE HOW CRUZ CAN CATCH UP. AT ALL.

As far as I can tell *** NO *** VOTES CAST TODAY HAVE BEEN COUNTED OR POSTED.

Thomas Prentice
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8:13pm CST Dallas, Texas

EARLY VOTING ONLY:

Harris co HOUSTON 57% for Beto
Dallas County, DALLAS, 66% for beto

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8:03pm Centrl Standard Time, Dallas Maybe Texas will not go gently in that good night. Beto ahead by 40K tight but it is NOT A GOOD NIGHT for Ted Cruz based on early voting. NO RAW VOTE COUNTS FROM TODAY. Just early voting. Heavily Republican counties gave tepid wins to Cruz in the low 50s EARLY VOTING ONLY the heavily Repubc counties north of Dallas/Ft Worth, South of Houston , Strong Republican counties around Austin went for Beto Cruz big wins of 80% i thinly populated rural counties of 2-3K votes. Beto himself said he needed at least 46% out… Read more »

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Does it matter? Not to me here in rural Virginia. I really don’t care which one of two competing corrupt crime organizations gets to control things until the next election. Foreign policy won’t change. War threats against half the world won’t stop. Climate change? Nothing. National debt? just getting worse. Education? circling the drain. The economy? who cares the rich have already gotten theirs – lower the lifeboat. Illegal, unconstitutional domestic surveillance of u and all our communications? Can only get worse. Neither side even bothers to pretend that they no longer give a rat’s patoot about anything otherhan the… Read more »

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sailor1030

Am with you 100% and don’t live anywhere near the United States. It’s the same here in Europe….

Oligarchy manufactures ‘difference’ and ‘opposition’ to maintain a fiction of left and right, of ‘choice’, ‘participation’ and ‘democracy’. It funds both the racism / ID politics position AND the fake fascist / white suprematist opposition. i.e. Distraction, diversion, theatre.

Meanwhile the true fascist uniparty juggernaut goes from strength to strength. Or thinks it does.

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Mulga Mumblebrain

No matter which wing of the ruling parasites’ party prevails, the Zionazis, the most generous political ‘contributors’, win. Sheldon Adelson, that monument to humanity, in particular if it be the Republicans.

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DavidEire

I think this is the second most important election in contemporary US history; the first being 2016. The outcome either way will have profound social and political effects that will affect us all, not just the US. I’m not saying it will fix the underlying problems in the US political system or be the second coming (or the emergence of the antichrist) or anything like that. But the impact in social and political terms will be profound. Whether for good or ill remains to be seen. Irrespective of which wing of the political duopoly comes out on top we can… Read more »

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John2o2o

If the US had a second party then maybe you would be right. Unfortunately there is no difference between the parties. They are basically just two sides of the same rabid beast. There are a few notable exceptions: Tulsi Gabbard democratic congresswoman and Rand Paul republican senator. There may be others, I’m not an expert on this. I have warmed to Trump a little (only a little!) in the past two years. I think in his heart he’s a libertarian, but he trusts evil neocons such as Bolton, Pompeo and Giuliani far too much. What the US is doing to… Read more »

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Paul

I find some sympathy for a Trump in that he faces the same enemy as that other famous racist Jeremy Corbyn; the media. It’s an illustration of their power that with their relentless remorseless propaganda they might stop one becoming PM and try to ruin Trump whether by impeachment or fake news. The support of the secret services in both countries gives them 100% protection.

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wardropper

And yet, in a certain way, this election is also the most trivial waste of time in US history… As others have commented, everything appalling about domestic and foreign policy will continue whichever party wins, and the decent human beings of the world will lose.
I can’t help mentioning once more Mark Twain’s penetrating observation: “If voting made any difference, it would never be allowed”.
That’s where we are today, folks, and it makes no sense to remain in denial about it.