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“People hold opinions I don’t share, we should stop them.”

Kit Knightly

Image source here.

Sixty percent of us believe in “conspiracy theories”, and we shouldn’t. At least according to Hugo Drochon, Professor of Politics at Nottingham University.

He doesn’t raise the question of whether or not some “conspiracy theories” may be true, his blanket assumption is that all of them are not. His article is not about WHAT people think, WHY they think it, or IF they’re wrong. The article is about rationalizing social control – specifically steps the state can take to assert control over the political opinions of the electorate.

Indeed the entire premise of the article is right there in the headline:

Britons are swallowing conspiracy theories. Here’s how to stop the rot

British people think things they shouldn’t, and here’s how we can stop them. The flawed logic is aggressive. The patronising tone nauseating. It’s the terrifying smiling face of a Brave New World.

The article deals only in absolutes. There are “conspiracy theories”, and they are all wrong. Even such vague concepts as the idea the government might publish misleading statistics or that there could be unelected people running the country in spite of our notional democracy.

It’s a programmed response. A piece of hard code: If(Conspiracy).addClass(“false”)

No space is given over to the raft of historical “conspiracy theories” which turned out to be completely true. NSA mass surveillance. The “sexed up” dossier. Iran-Contra. The DNC rigging the primaries. The Gulf of Tonkin incident.

They are disregarded, ignored because they do not serve the narrative.

It is so blatantly dishonest it needs, and merits, no refutation. An alleged “academic” should know better, should be better.

Leaving aside the cod-psychological waffle, the frankly offensive assumptions, the frequent lies by omission and the constant conflation of all “conspiracy theories” as broadly the same thing, (People who believe aliens crashed at Roswell are filed alongside people who debate Global Warming, 9/11, and vaccination). What we’re presented with is a five-point plan to make sure we stop thinking things of which Professor Drochon does not approve. It’s just that simple.

1. Stage Interventions for your deluded loved ones

Although mistrust in politicians and other leaders is at an all-time high, trust among friends (87%) and family members (89%) remains rock solid. This can be a double-edged sword: if conspiracy theorists are friends with other conspiracy theorists, then that’s likely to be mutually reinforcing. But conspiracy theorists will also listen to their friends and family who are not. So if you have a friend who starts sayings things about how the CIA was behind 9/11, try talking to them. You never know, they might come round to thinking it was al-Qaida who hijacked the planes, after all.

Drochon doesn’t go into WHY people don’t trust politicians, of course, which may be connected to the “conspiracy theories” that turned out to be true. The lies about WMDs in Iraq, for example, would be held up as a “conspiracy theory” if hadn’t been conclusively proved.

Ignore history or facts or precedent or debate and remember – “conspiracy theorists” are ALWAYS wrong. It’s like a mental illness or a drug addiction. The important thing is you sit down any friends/family you have who believe things they shouldn’t believe, and you berate and/or shame them into changing their mind.

2. Argue from authority

Sadly journalists (77%) are no better trusted than government ministers or company bosses. Academics, however, fare better and retain the trust of 64% of the public. So academics should engage more with the public: Cas Mudde for instance, an expert on populism, has just launched a new series with the Guardian about “the new populism”. Consider this column my own attempt to do so, too.

Again, he doesn’t ask WHY journalists aren’t trusted (coughIraqcough), he just thinks it’s “sad”. Obviously, in a perfect world, we’d all trust journalists who are all great guys and just trying to help.

Anyway, we can’t be expected to learn, understand or debate issues amongst ourselves. We need to listen to academics*, who know what they’re talking about. Including, fortunately, Professor Drochon himself. Remember, someone with a PhD is not only smarter than you, but morally superior as well. They are also incapable of ever being mistaken or having an agenda.

*When he says “academics” he only means SOME academics, obviously the academics who research JFK, 9/11 or alternate theories of global warming don’t count. Disregard them entirely.

3. Indoctrinate Your Children

Studies show that those with higher educational achievements are less prone to believing conspiracy theories. The implication here is there should be more investment in education, which of course would be welcome. But compulsory courses on online education – learning to tell fake news from real for instance – should be considered, too.

Compulsory education courses for children. We need to teach our kids that anything they read on the internet which departs from the acknowledged government position is WRONG. This will help stamp out dissent conspiracy theories, and is not at all Stalinist.

4. Online Censorship Regulation

By asking questions about social media consumption, our latest poll confirms what has been suspected for a while: social media encourages conspiracy theories. Not all, mind you: Facebook encourages conspiracy theories, but Twitter mitigates against them. It turns out YouTube is the worst offender: those who get their news from the video platform are much more likely to believe conspiracy theories.

So far most of these new technologies have been left to regulate themselves, which has led to scandals surrounding the role Facebook might have played in recent elections. Politicians should take a more active role in regulating the spread of fake news and conspiracy theories. Falling that (sic), you’re welcome to delete your various accounts.

As mentioned above, “conspiracy theorists” talking to each other can be self-reinforcing. We need to stop that. The best way to do that is to regulate the internet. To make sure certain opinions don’t get shared and certain thoughts don’t get expressed.

It’s important to remember that this is NOT censorship. This is regulation. Bad people censor the truth. Good people “regulate” lies. The Government (who only 23% of people trust) can, of course, be trusted to carry out this task. There is no chance, at all, that they would use this to their own ends. After all, an academic suggested it…and they are not only smarter, but morally superior. I know, because an academic said that too.

5…wait, what?

Conspiracy theories spread among those who feel they are not being heard. Politicians have a responsibility to be more responsive to the demands of their citizens: it is true, for example, that the question of this country’s relation to the EU had long been off the table, and fears about immigration often fell on deaf ears. That is not to say they should follow Hillary Clinton in saying immigration into Europe should stop, but a coherent account of what type of immigration this country wants, and why, needs to be offered, alongside a clear vision of what its future relationship with the EU is going to be.

Conspiracy theories only spread as a result of people not being listened to, so we should stay in the EU and offer a more coherent immigration policy. Then people will stop believing in Aliens and won’t question 9/11 anymore?

Is he saying the government should make some token populist compromise or face a backlash? How does that relate to global warming? Is he saying anything even approaching that coherent?

Is it simply that every article in the Guardian needs to be related back to Brexit?

I’m struggling with this one, honestly. Does anyone have the faintest idea what he’s talking about?

Answers on a postcard, please.

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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kevin morris

We would probably all agree about the media conspiracy of silence about the expropriation of Palestine by Zionists. Strange though is the left’s unwillingness to examine the so called People’s Republic of China’s appalling treatment of its minorities and the country’s lack of legal protection for its people.

TFS
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TFS

You mention Norman Finkelstein. His book on the Holocaust Industry was an eye opener. To some he is self hating jew/antisemite. His book is a scholarly piece of work, and this planet will surely be a more unjust place without him shining a light on the forked tongue of the Regime of Israel.

He’s right up there with Shlomo Sand, the author of the widely promoted book, The Invention of the Jewish People.

mark
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mark

There are a lot of “righteous Jews” on the right side of history. Some of them are quite exceptional. Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal, Ron Unz, Medea Benjamin. Some of the Israeli historians who have been very frank about the Nakba. (Some of the time) Chomsky and Glenn Greenwald. They seem to just want to call out lies and hypocrisy.

milosevic
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milosevic

If “self-hating Jews” are anti-racists and anti-fascists, then what would a self-loving Jew be?

homeslicez
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The worst or saddest is when some people are so dedicated to or brainwashed by their tribe/cult (Dems, GOP, uh, UK equivalent, American, Russian, whatever) that they honestly can’t recognize that they’re actually the ones peddling a conspiracy theory. “The Skripals were poisoned on Putin’s orders!” “There’s really no compelling evidence of this.” “Oh yeah, well how do YOU explain it, Putin lover?” “Could be a set-up by the UK, could be bad fish…lots of possibilities.” “Ah, you’re one of those conspiracy theorists.” “Well no. First, you’re the one promoting the conspiracy theory that Putin ordered the poisonings. You have… Read more »

binra
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binra

Its a variation on the theme of camouflage.
The only consciousness that comes into it is of a sense of threat and a sense of seeking protection.
Whereas a fish hides its body, the human hides a mind.

frank
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frank

The rollout of “newspeak” and “thoughtcrime” is in full force as well:

No ‘colonizing’ or ‘frontiers’: Snowflakes alarmed by linguistic aspects of NASA Mars probe

So far, some have argued that the following words should be banned: colonizing, settlement, frontier, and… exploring.

axisofoil
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This is worth watching.

TFS
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TFS
milosevic
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milosevic

The Left has been historically overwhelmingly immune to anti-Semitism: famously, the late 19th-century German socialist leader August Bebel called anti-Semitism “the socialism of fools”, pointing out that economic and social inequality was the product not of a Jewish conspiracy but of the system of capitalism. Far-right movements such as the Nazis in contrast commonly portrayed socialism and communism as the products of a Jewish conspiracy, though Jews were never dominant in left-wing political organizations and of course when they joined them they gave up their Jewish identity.

Nicholas Lysson — Holocaust and Holodomor

Ron Unz — The Bolshevik Revolution and Its Aftermath

Antonym
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Antonym

Sorry, there are obviously bad Jewish people (as there are sociopaths etc. in any other group), but the Jewish religion is tolerant and benign and their group size is very small. In contrast the Islam religion is intolerant, hostile with a has huge group size. This club deserves much more attention.

binra
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binra

Tolerance is a lot to do with power. Given power all sorts of irritations become effected rage and vengeance. With loss of power comes humiliation and perhaps some degree of humility or the damned up rage of impotence. When there is not the power to attack, the intolerance holds back full expression, but given power is does not hesitate to act. Power corrupts the already corrupted by giving freedom of expression for impulses otherwise held in check. I don’t think one can speak of ‘religions’ in such broad strokes meaningfully. Intolerant of what exactly? What you invite and allow into… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

the Jewish religion is tolerant and benign lets’s hear from Ovadia Yosef, the former Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel, on relations between the Chosen People and the goyim: Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world — only to serve the People of Israel. In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person — they need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long… Read more »

Antonym
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Antonym

One Jewish odious out-layer; thousands of odious Islamist out-layers…

richard le sarc
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richard le sarc

Ovadia Yosef’s funeral drew the largest crowd in Israeli history, of several hundred thousand devoted followers. All ‘out-layers’, I suppose.

BigB
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BigB

You are entitled to you opinion: but then I’m entitled to mine. The articles you repost are vile incitements to race hate. This is the third or fourth I’ve read. The Lysson List (that’s what it is, combined from two or three words per author. Arendt and Finkelstein leap out as decontextualised …I haven’t got time to check the context of the others …but that is the whole point, isn’t it? It looks like a scholarly article compiled from credible sources …just how much of it is contextual and accurately cited?) Not much, I surmise. What masquerades as historically accurate… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

Pasque di Sangue: even Toaff retracted and rewrote to clarify the falsehood.

People become strangely eager to clarify all sorts of things, given sufficient motivation and encouragement.

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-bloody-passovers-of-dr-toaff/

http://www.israelshamir.net/BLOODPASSOVER.pdf

BigB
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BigB

I did not object to Toaff, per se. I even gave Lysson credit for mentioning the retraction (it appears his article was written before Toaff re-published). What I strongly object to is the racism of suggesting that an obscure 15th century crime was the historical precedent for current events: as in footnote 10: Some wonder why Toaff focused on events of more than 500 years ago, when similar abuses, far more easily documented, are going on even now. That is pure hate speech. It is racist to maintain that a small minority – who may or may not have carried… Read more »

richard le sarc
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richard le sarc

Honestly. I rather agree with much of what you said, but Netanyahu’s situation in Israel is massively strong, not ‘weak’ by any means, and he has enough popular support to be voted PM four, or is it five, times. And there are worse racist, fascist, supremacist thugs than even he. Of course there are good and decent Israeli Jews opposing his racism, but they are, regretably, in the minority, as Israel marches ever further Right.

mark
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mark

Maybe if one genocide is “fabricated propaganda”, then maybe another one is too. My genocide is bigger than your genocide. 10 million Central Africans in the Belgian Congo, 1890-1910. 100 million Native Americans. 1.5 million Armenians. 750,000 Libyans. 1 million Algerians. 2 million Germans in 1945. 500,000 Irish, 1641-1652. So what? Who knows or cares about any of those?

milosevic
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milosevic

Who knows or cares about any of those?

Note the ostentatious concern over “outright Holocaust denial”, which wasn’t remotely suggested in either article, versus the casual, fact-free dismissal of “a fabricated propaganda genocide” of the Ukrainian goyim, organized by people with names like “Kaganovich”.

Some victims are more special than others.

Obviously, if two genocides occur within the span of a decade, in the same general area, which interchange the ethnicities of perpetrators and victims, one would have to be an “anti-semite” to conclude that there might be some connection between them.

BigB
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BigB

The very framing of genocide versus genocide is a gross act of historiography. There was a cyclical famine in the Ukraine in 1932-33: which also affected the Volga and other regions. Approximately 2.6 million people died, which is of course a great human tragedy. It coincided with forced collectivisation, but this was not causal. It was the weather and antiquated Medieval farming practices. Famines were common up to that point. Apart from 1945, this was the last major cyclical famine. Stalin was no saint, and there is evidence he shut the border, and the distribution of aid was preferential to… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

I think you’ve just outed yourself as an ethnic disinfo activist. The claim that the Ukrainian famine was “a fabricated propaganda genocide” concocted by “neo-Nazis” is the giveaway. For everybody else, I strongly recommend reading the Lysson article, and forming your own opinion. Consider whether the policies described therein bear any resemblance to those of a shitty little country that starts with an “I”, and whether that might be something less than a coincidence. I also strongly recommend one of its references, Israel Shahak’s book *Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years*, which you can read here:… Read more »

TFS
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TFS

1. Isn’t Pharma the sugar daddy of any good Psychologist worth his salt? Where there’s a condition, there’s a drug for it. Looks like a new Pycho Disorder needs to be included in the Pycho Treatment Bible. Watch out Americans. 2. Can’t wait to find more on the Bios for the authors and their funding for this. This would seem a match made in heaven between the likes of The Guardian and Security Services, or some think tank with an Agenda. There’s a conspiracy……….. 3. Psychology, one of them not so evidence based sciences. Its a bit like confusing equality… Read more »

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin

More on Drochon and the department of conspiracy at Cambridge that he is a nember of http://www.conspiracyanddemocracy.org/blog/author/hugo/ He wrote a book-wooky on Nietzsche! I don’t know the bonafides of this magazine but it has a long review of Drochons great work. https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/nietzsche-great-politics-hugo-drochon-review ‘Drochon argues that Nietzsche supported something akin to Plato’s political project, in which slavery is a necessary “cruel tool” to forge a state worthy of existence: namely, a state in the service of the creation of genius and culture. Such a state is denied by what Nietzsche calls the “leveling” of democracy. Drochon sees Nietzsche arguing for a… Read more »

Brave New World
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Brave New World

Thanks for this excellent contribution.

We’ve been spoiled lately by the Guardian with their generous Christmas offerings.
– Luke Harding to tell us what we should know, and
– this elitist-on-steroid Drochon telling us how we should think.

They are sounding a bit desperate.
Are they preparing a sacrifice? Will there be a mass grave by Christmas?

Joerg
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Joerg

I like the articles of Mr. Kit Knightly. Bur here he doesn’t even see the main point. We must not whimper about being called “conspiracy theorists” and then defend us citizens lamely. The main point is that we all are flooded(!) with GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY THEORIES day by day! And its time to not to defend – but to attack those Government Conspiracy Theorists! Here are some of those Government Conspiracy Theories that only just get into my head: 1) 911 – some Arabs meet in an Afghan cave to conspire attacks on New York/Washington with airliners With this GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY… Read more »

binra
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binra

The point I made on this page is that the whole nature of a mind capture is to get everyone reacting in the terms it sets – and it sets them in ways that provoke and invite reaction. If instead of leaping into the fray of self-reinforcing opinions, we simply note what the actual communication is that is being offered – then we may see that NO communication is being offered but only a FORM of communication masking the intent or payload of undermining or denying communication by any number of tricks. The reclaiming of the mind from a mind-capture… Read more »

Joerg
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Joerg

@ binra Dear binra, I am not sure why You state this exactly to my comment. And to what You said: There is a lot I agree with. Bur my point was that you should not do to others, what you don’t want to be done to yourself. Or – in the case of The Guardian: Don’t criticize others for things exactly you do yourself. You are very right, binra, to request people to leave the cage of manipulation and self-manipulation and to dig through to truth. The way to find truth, in my opinion, is the way of eliminating… Read more »

binra
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binra

Indeed well said – and to the point that the denial operates the cover for the act – of a split mind. “Do as I say and not as I do!” So it is rightly disturbing, and hateful in its doing as in being done to. Hate can split a mind to become likes its ‘father’. Thus the need to pause before letting any code run on a mind of unwatched reaction – if only an instant – but an instant of vigilance or discernment as to its actual status. Keeping our channel for true qualities of being open, is… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

Joerg I’m one of those CO2 freaks you’ve never met, that thinks exactly as you think we don’t think. Charles Eisenstein is another, check him out online. I’d love to see AGW contextualised into a holistic systems view. It is not the likes of me that want to compartmentalise, isolate, name and discard something labelled ‘AGW’ as unproven: in favour of doing nothing … that is the whole tactic of climate scepticism. Well, they are entitled to that view …but if the debate moves on to consider other social, economic, and environmental factors: climate scepticism become indefensible. Deforestation, social exclusion… Read more »

richard le sarc
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richard le sarc

They are NOT ‘sceptics’. They are fanatics. And don’t worry about the insects. The Rapture occurred, and God decided to take the bugs-after all he is ‘inordinately fond of beetles’.

Joerg
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Joerg

@BigB You are wrong: I am not a “climate sceptic”. To the contrary I think that today’s policy (and that of these CO2 freaks) turn this planet into a dry “Dessert Planet” (a science fiction title). Also I think that these policies force our planet into an ice age. So, You BigB, can see I definitely see a “climate change”. Also I am not “in favour of doing nothing … that is the whole tactic of climate scepticism.” It is people like You, BigB who are in favour “in favour of doing nothing … .” The article “WE NEED TO… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

I may have bumped into you then (I was a bit young in the late 70s, but early 80s …we marched in solidarity). So if we put aside a small sticking point of science: we agree? We (humanity), in our supreme arrogance, are completely ignorant of any of the infinite ways we could precipitate an environmental collapse. Life: it is all integral and interconnected. If we label something as ‘AGW’ and treat it as a symptom – allopathically, for profit, {iatragonically} as we do – we misdiagnose the systemic nature of our disease (and it is OUR disease, we are… Read more »

Joerg
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Joerg

Yes, “planet and ourselves; BOTH as part of a single living system.” But those who have love and reason don’t need this lecture of Mr. Eisenstein. And those who have not (one or both) won’t understand or believe or even listen to Eisenstein. But something must be DONE NOW! to things to that: 1) How about if those CO2 freaks calculate how much CO2 is produced by this NATO military and all it’s wars. a) e. g. Syria: whole towns and cities were and are destroyed. The city of Raqqa looks much worse than any German town at the end… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

It’s all part of the same story. My maths is vestigial, but I can tell you, or confirm, that the US military is the biggest polluter on the planet. Spreading pollution and death to spread pollution and death. Not very scientific perhaps, but carbon consumption, the capitalist economy, and deforestation (and other environmental degradation) share the same motivations and root causes. Here’s a quantum leap: they are cognitive …not physical or material causes. Cognition governs the way we act (and the way we act governs cognition). It is a self-reinforcing meaning loop. I can explain that, but the point is:… Read more »

Joerg
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Joerg

May be I made a mistake by posting (confused by filling out “Name” and “e-mail-address”. So I am sorry dear admin of OffG! @ BigB You ask: “I don’t get why you have such a cob-on for CO2 freaks?” My answer is, that they are the puppets of the masters of “universal fascism”. I have no respect for them, because they don’t deserve any. The answer You will find in this Video: “F. WILLIAM ENGDAHL ~ Gods Of Money & Climate Change Hoax” – [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S7qK1VJFE&w=640&h=360%5D . It’s 46 min long. So I give points of time where you could… Read more »

Joerg
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Joerg

@BigB
My answer to You – from naerly 3 hours ago – is blocked/censored by OffG. I don’t knw why – I said nothig aggressive or smearing. When OffG was contacted by me (about ½ hous ago)
they didn’t answer!
So I outspourced my answer it to:
http://www.imagenetz.de/f295e2021/univerisal-fashism.pdf.html .

Joerg
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Joerg

@BigB You ask: “I don’t get why you have such a cob-on for CO2 freaks?” My answer is, that they are the puppets of the masters of “universal fascism”. I have no respect for them, because they don’t deserve any. The answer You will find in this Video: “F. WILLIAM ENGDAHL ~ Gods Of Money & Climate Change Hoax” – [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S7qK1VJFE&w=640&h=360%5D . It’s 46 min long. So I give points of time where you could jump in to the video: “universal fascism” 6:50 holistic medicine 7:50 What should people do against hypnosis and self-hypnosis 18:05 “global warming” is crap… Read more »

Joerg
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Joerg

Let me add this:
Those who doubt the 911-George-W-Bush-conspircy-theory and come up with other explanatons/theories are DEBUNKERS – not “conspiryca theorists” like this George W. Bush!

Francis Lee
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Francis Lee

The late Christopher Lasch’s book, Revolt of the Elites, a best seller in the 1970s was a scathing attack ‘the intellectuals’ i,e, the soi-disant, metropolitan, petit-bourgeois guardians of the truth. The title was a deliberate take-off on Jose Ortega y Gasset’s The Revolt of the Masses, a reactionary work published in 1930 that ascribed the crisis of Western culture to the “political domination of the masses.” Ortega believed that the rise of the masses threatened democracy by undermining the ideals of civic virtue that characterized the old ruling elites. But in late twentieth-century America it is not the masses so… Read more »

Jen
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Jen

“… I’m struggling with this one, honestly. Does anyone have the faintest idea what [Hugo Drochon is] talking about? …” I had a look at that Fraudian article and it looks like a cut-n-paste job. In paragraphs 2 and 4, Drochon seems to suggest that he was part of the Cambridge / YouGov research team but never makes his connection to the team (if such a connection exists) clear. So many Fraudian articles are just cut-n-paste jobs or read as if they were written by computer programs. Struggle no more, Kit – you already lost at least several hours of… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

I’m inclined to agree Jen: pseudo-academic research based on three YouGov polls …well I could say just about anything based on YouGov polls! He did state the obvious: that it is fear based …fear of the government and its lying press. When I read it yesterday, the banner headline on the very same page was Mark Carnage’s “academic research” that the UK would sink into the Atlantic if we leave with a “no deal”. I think we have earned the right to be afeared of such blatant pseudo-academic fearmongering!

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin

Couldn’t be bothered to be spoonfed indoctrination – it is based on ‘research’ which I couldn’t see any link to, which means we can’t look at their data sets to see how their summarised selected ‘results’ are arrived at. The MSM, run by the Govt information services ComSec SCL types and their like minded psychopathic servants, is across the ‘western world’ in a pre-war, basic training of the conscripts, mode. We are being told how to dress, talk, march and most important as ever, follow orders! – ‘Don’t think, Don’t ask questions, just follow orders – or else’. Don’t listen… Read more »

king halibut
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king halibut

Yes, pretty fractured, the result of such writers who feel they must just go along. Propagandists, that is, there is no true journalism in US or Euro MSM for many years.
One statement alone is enough to stop reading right there.
‘Social media encourages conspiracy theories”. Just as likely that conspiracy theories encourage social media! Anyone not believing this can check out the staying power of the JFK assassination search for truth. What is important is whether these “conspiracies” are true, not whether they conform to social media “likes”!

Brian Burgess
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Brian Burgess

Nice article Kit but did you imply the Roswell “conspiracy theory” is somehow less worthy for debate than some of those others you mentioned? Something did crash at Roswell in 1947 and it wasn’t a ”weather balloon.” It was the Roswell US Army Airforce Base itself that initially issued a press release claiming it was a “flying saucer” that was crashed and recovered – this claim was NOT originally an invention of the “conspiracy theorists!” Then the military substituted ordinary weather balloon wreckage, posed with this fake wreckage for the media and claimed their original press release was wrong and… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

The point is that “conspiracy theories” about the Government lying to us often turn out to have a some solid basis in fact even when they involve seemingly outrageous stories about seemingly incredible things. Mention “flying saucers” though and many people’s normally open minds seem to immediately turn off because they can’t handle the possibility, and they simply flag the whole topic as unworthy of debate and stop listening. On the day that all the previous fraudulent pretexts for police-state repression, poverty, and endless warfare — 9/11, Terrorism, War on Drugs, Russian Meddling, Putin-Trump-Nazis, Illegal Immigrants, etc — finally lose… Read more »

tonyopmoc
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tonyopmoc

If you now look at Headlines and Photographs, not just In The Guardian but most of the Newspapers, last time I looked…..Is that The current (Canadian (Ex Massive Great US Financial Company) Boss of The Bank of England??? Who looks Terrified, and all the Press are writing all this nonsense, cos they are paid to write nonsense Us peasents have sussed you. War Criminals We don’t like you, You are lying, thieving b@stards, and you earn all your money from promoting WAR. You are not interested in Love, Peace and Progress – You Just Want To Destroy. You are all… Read more »

Molloy
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Molloy

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Great stuff, Tony.

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Molloy
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Molloy

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p.s. It is public money paying the sociopathic morons, your money my money.

Best.

flaxgirl
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A modest proposal, surely? So hilarious. You must have had fun writing this, Kit.

Narrative
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Narrative

Your username has a broken link to https://flaxgirl.wordpress.com/
Intolerable, the revolution cannot proceed with broken links!

flaxgirl
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My website if you’re interested, Narrative: https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/

axisofoil
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Narrative
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Narrative

Thanks flaxgirl. Your website has a very nice layout.

flaxgirl
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Thank you, Narrative. You’re the first person to compliment me on it.

Fred
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Fred

Hugo Drochon seems to believe in this conspiracy theory that there are bunches of people out there thinking things about other conspiracy theories! I can see why that would keep him awake at night, that is a scary conspiracy theory. He appears to be worried that he is going nuts, so he is trying to heal himself by working to get rid of the people that populate his conspiracy theory. This is moving the theory into practice which can be dangerous! He is more ill that he realises!

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin
Narrative
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Narrative

Thanks Kit Knightly!

The flawed logic is aggressive. The patronising tone nauseating. It’s the terrifying smiling face of a Brave New World.

In a way, it has got much easier to shine a light on the dark side of the Establishment because there is no more a bright side to what they are saying or doing.

Simon Hodges
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Who needs to far right when you have the progressive left to do your dirty imperialist work for you?

Neil McCormick
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II still struggle with the labels left and right and liberal and conservative – they’re all the same really. I swing across all of them depending on each individual instance – what does that label me as? A swing voter or a pragmatist?

BigB
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BigB

Neil I agree, the left/right; liberal/conservative paradigm collapsed into the vicious centre status quo ante years ago. There are only flavours of liberal-conservatives that conceal the iniquities and inequalities of the imperial war machine (rumours of ‘alternatives’ are vastly overrated ‘Chinese Whispers’ that emanate from the centre). Specifically, what I see is a libertarian ‘modernist’ Enlightenment synthesis. This manifests as a binary democratic imaginal (imaginal = neither real nor imaginary: a causally efficacious fugue or dreamstate). The metamorphosis of this imaginal is profoundly Cartesian, who apotheosised the duality we cannot shake. In truth, this old civilisational paradigm is redundant. It… Read more »

binra
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binra

My world awakening reply was voided by a greater Silence – of the OG notification ‘posting too rapidly’ cul de sac. Some idea of the algorithm might be handy to know or is it a discretionary human act? However, this vid from a completely different spectrum than resonates with something of what you write and in my world – every thing true is transferable – and that is how it is recognisably true rather than seeming temporarily ‘true’ in opposition to something else – something that we don’t want to be true. It relates to New Views or the Interstellar… Read more »

BigB
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BigB

Binra Interesting link (is that Sheldrake in the audience?) To turn it on its head: why should it be considered unusual that the stellar reflects the cellular? It is no surprise to me, and I had not seen such a presentation before. Life emerges from life: from the quantum to the stellar. This is no bullshit hippy drippy metaphysic, it is ancient wisdom that has taken a scientific grounding in the last century. I’m sure you have read Capra? He has been documenting this for over 30 years. I’ve got to be careful with my jargon: but Varela/Maturana’s theory of… Read more »

binra
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binra

You can choose to operate on the ‘separative’ or segregative operating-mind – or you can choose not to, and allow what is – to communicate through you – which is simply the natural condition of an unblocked channel or indeed aligning in and following your joy. Reasons for choosing not to persist in the split mind are not hard for us to find – but are so deeply associated with situations and events ‘outside’. And so we think conditions or behaviours must change for ‘the illusion to fade or fall away’. Not so. Everything is transcended in place. Outer change… Read more »

binra
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binra

One of those 2 replies somehow got in the wrong thread – being answer to BB’s ‘if it ain’t CO2 science has to start again’

binra
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binra

You write “if it is not CO2 we have to rewrite every scientific theory…” Not at all! We simply let science IN by taking Big money and shadow politics OUT. Science has been captured or corrupted no less than any other sphere of social influence. Can you imagine for a moment that ‘broad spectrum dominance’ doesn’t include (or even even begin with effective control of the scientific realm?) ‘National Security’ demands it – and as you know the ‘national’ of certain countries has global outreach. Corporate cartel monopoly is in the same bed. Captured science maintains the ‘opiate’ of the… Read more »

Robbobbobin
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Robbobbobin

From the offending article “Hugo Drochon teaches politics at the University of Nottingham”

I learned sex at the University of If You Think I’d Tell You You Can Think Again. But she was a member of the academic staff, which is how I know I got it right, right from the beginning. So stop quibbling and stick your tongue out. Further.

remorris
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remorris

I guess you are aware of the Obama era “Conspiracy Theory” paper by Cass Sunstein and Adrian Vermule ?
Steps out the thinking [‘crippled epistemology’] of the deepstate protection racket.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

Gary Weglarz
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Gary Weglarz

Initially I was laughing out loud at professor Hugo Drochon’s observations and suggestions. At first I thought perhaps Kit was playing a little joke on us and the name ” Hugo Drochon” had simply been used by my favorite satirist C.J. Hopkins to poke some fun at the absurdist mainstream narratives and their gatekeepers. But no, it appears that ” Hugo Drochon” is like an actual real person and these are his actual like “real” crazoid fascist police-state-loving perspectives. We in the U.S. have a close parallel to professor Drochon in the person of former Harvard professor Cass Sunstein, who… Read more »

binra
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binra

Being enslaved under black magicians would have sounded too far out as a plot line for a movie – but its as good a way to describe as many others. We have the techno ‘Matrix’ ideas, or ‘They Live!’ or ‘Virtual Nightmare’. And I wonder if the Movie industrial complex is the mouthpiece for the demoniacally laughing Enemy of the World to show their captive just before they are killed how they have been fooled – because if without the telling the victory is somewhat of an anticlimax. But to come back to presence – the core strategy of such… Read more »

Frank Russell
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Frank Russell

Excellent link Brian