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WATCH: Conspiracy Theorists are Domestic Terrorists!

The term “conspiracy theory” was weaponized by the CIA half a century ago. At first it was merely used to marginalize those who question government narratives. But now that weapon is being loaded and pointed at our heads. Can a “conspiracy theorist” false flag be far behind? James examines the new FBI document on conspiracy theorists as domestic terrorists in this important edition of #PropagandaWatch.

For links, sources and shownotes click here.

The latest video from James Corbett is in response to this memo from the FBI, which claims that “fringe conspiracy theories” will occasionally stir people to commit violent acts.

Disregarding the arguments about who is or isn’t responsible for acts of violence (or even whether or not they actually happened), the memo is of course totally ridiculous.

More than ridiculous: You don’t ban or censor things because criminals or lunatics liked them. Mark Chapman liked Catcher in the Rye, Charles Manson listened to The Beatles.

The argument of post-war suburban mothers, that Rock music encourages sin and Devil worship is, deservedly, ridiculed as hysteria these days. And yet the FBI, and other agencies of the deep state, are using that same argument to shut down free speech on the web.

There will always be insane people. There will always be those who, for whatever crazy reason, seek to do others harm. We can’t legislate on that. Ted Bundy wore ties. Jeffrey Dahmer was gay. Hitler drank water.

Even taken totally at face value, completely on its own terms, even if – for some peculiar reason – you believe everything the FBI tells you: the argument for is deeply flawed. At best.

Of course, that’s not really what the document is about.

What this document is really about, what this is all for, is buried in one short sentence somewhere in the preamble [our emphasis]:

Indicators that may lead to a revised judgment include…significant efforts by major social media companies and websites to remove, regulate or counter potentially harmful conspiratorial content.”

Yeah. That just about says it all really.

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In this video clip, skip to 24:30 to hear two former Fox employees admit that Fox no longer delivers “real news” (and all of MSM for that matter). Of course we knew this but there you have it.

Having this confirmed as fact, the individual has no choice but to use critical thinking and research to ascertain the truth about all current events, which will of course be construed as being a conspiracy theorist.

Our corporate media is really delusional and dangerous now, having caused the deaths of many Americans in mass shootings.

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Links switched. oops!

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What was Operations Northwoods?

It was the States attempt for the creation of a Conspiracy Theory that the Cubans had brought down a plane with Americans in it.

Anymore? Well lets see. There was that 9/11 thingy whereby the State and its familias in the Presstitute MSM convinced a large portion of the American public that not only did Saddam have WMDs (He didn’t) but he was linked to 9/11 (He wasn’t).

Go on, one more…OK How about a multiyear Conspiracy Theory that the Russian Government (Putin) oversaw and ran election inteferring that affected the outcome on who was the next President of SpartUSA. I can’t stop myself laughing at this one.

Ah, the State formenting a Conspiracy Theory, who’d have thunk it……..

Maggie
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Maggie

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jeffrey-epstein-kills-himself-ahead-of-sex-trafficking-trial-reports/ar-AAFCxxL?ocid=spartandhp
NOTHING TO SEE HERE CHAPS, JUST WALK ON BY AND OBSERVE THE LATEST FALSE FLAG.
Andrew can breath a sigh of relief now, but Gislaine Maxwell had better watch her back. I guess she’ll take an overdose because she is so distraught at Jeffry’s death?

Maggie
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Maggie

After thinking this through I posted again further down the page………

Joerg
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@ OffG and its readers- concerning comment of user “Question This” from Aug 8, 2019 1:42 AM:
Here we see clearly what I meant with my comment below (https://off-guardian.org/2019/08/06/watch-conspiracy-theorists-are-domestic-terrorists/#comment-88648)
OffG-Admin and several readers – very rightfully! – confronted this state-propaganda-comment from user “Question This”. But their replies and protests remains totally impotent!

Why is this so? This is so because they don’t confront “Question This” (and our governments) when they allow him to put these tin-foil hats of “Conspiracy Theorist” and “Russian Propagandist” on our heads.

When “Question This” claims: “OffG, is regarded as a conspiracy theory site that promulgates Russian propaganda” he puts forward two lies: 1. OffG was a “conspiracy theory site” (to this below “1”). and 2. OffG was “promulgat(ing) Russian Propaganda” (to this below “2”).

1) OffG is not at all spreading conspiracy theories. That is with one exception: When in January 2018 it allowed an article on this side with the conspiracy theory of Julian Assange being nothing but a spook and a limited hang-out of the CIA (see:: https://off-guardian.org/2018/01/04/how-to-identify-cia-limited-hangout/)
But otherwise OffG always only DEBUNKED and confronted these Government Conspiracy Theories (in the following: “GCT”).
So OffG is only a GTC-DEBUNKER site!

2) When user “Question This” comes forward with: OffG “promulgates Russian propaganda” this is itself(!) is a CONSPIRACY THEORY! Because “Question This” insinuates/theorises that OffG is conspiring(!) with the Russian government to spread their “propaganda“!
Why is no one attacking user “Question This” for spreading this “outrageous conspiracy theory”(George W. Bush)??!!
User “Question This” is here using exactly the same strategy as our governments: That is: Spreading a GCT and then attacking those citizens that see through all these lies and who DEBUNK these GCT by developing alternative explanations of what might have happened ( based on facts and logic) by defaming them as “Conspiracy Theorists”.

The fact that user “Question This” uses exactly the same strategy as our governments – that is spreading himself(!) a conspiracy theory and then defaming us DEBUNKERs of GTC by calling us ‘conspiracy theorists’ – convinces me, that user “Question This” is nothing but a government-shill.
And have no illusions: Our governments are employing already a lot of personal to influence discussions on the internet.
Also: the nick “Question This” – isn’t this a strange nick?!

Now to user “Question This” ‘s conspiracy theory that OffG conspires with the Russian government to put forward their “Russian propaganda“:
Never once OffG blared out Russian propaganda! Let’s take the Skripal case: Mr. Skripal and his fine daughter were deported (or already killed?) by the British government, so they can’t testify against these horrendous lies of the British government. So OffG – without being able to get at these very valuable first-grade informations from the first-grade-witnesses Mr. and Mrs Skripal – allowed articles here that DEBUNKED the British GCT by facts (although hard, because the British government permanently changed(!) the facts) and logic.

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Assange/Manning/Wikileaks must be an intelligence operation. Manning went to school in West Wales because his father was attached to the USN submarine facility at Brawdy. It is inconceivable that Manning would have become an intelligence analyst without a thorough psychological deconstruction/positive vetting.

Manning could not possibly have have concealed his secret desire to be a woman. The whole thing is a construct.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

Well, well! Looks like the ‘War on Terra’ is now coming home …

TFS
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TFS

In relation to Conspiracy Theorists of the demonised type, OffG and other bloggers should do more protect themselves better.

1. When MSM promulgates a Conspiracy Theory itself, label it as such and label it add infinitum in any reference or retort piece. And then label it at such, some more.

2. Always link to the CIA in the promotion of the ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ for demonisation. You could you a video of Pompeo head of CIA saying they lie for a living…..a bonus.

3. Get a list of Conspiracy Theories together that have been proved, so when the likes of HWBonney turns up, and calls everyone a Narcissist, you can slap it his way in the hope he’ll crawl back under his rock.

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Mucho

Western nations are international terrorists

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

CORRECTION: Western élites are international terrorists.

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Anyone who isn’t a so called conspiracy theorist is clearly not thinking

Gezzah Potts
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Thanks again for the reminder of where the World is heading. According to Media Bias Fact Checker (who funds this? follow the money) this very site, OffG, is regarded as a conspiracy theory site that promulgates Russian propaganda.
We are well on the way to 1984, and any independent news site, blog, Twitter account, etc that challenges the Orwellian newspeak of the presstitute slime; that speaks truth to power; that shines a light on the blood drenched Imperialism of the Empire, well those sites and blogs will simply be silenced if they are reaching too many people. As we all know, this has been already happening, and even this site has come under attack, as have others.

Question This
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OffG, is regarded as a conspiracy theory site that promulgates Russian propaganda.

Well isn’t it? Not saying that’s a bad thing, but is it untrue? Perhaps pro-russia is a fairer description. Anyway the west has plenty of western propaganda sites of its own, so why not.

Gezzah Potts
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I was debating whether to reply to you Q.T, then saw the reply Admin made to you. Fully agree with their comment.

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Question This

I’m just keeping offG honest. A serious truther worth the name is skeptical of everyone’s intentions ; – )

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You’re trolling and grandstanding and using our open comments policy as a cover to be abusive to the site. Ill-mannered. Stop, please.

And thanks, but we have managed to hold on to our honesty and ethics without your intervention thus far, so you can leave that concern to us.

Question This
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Question This

What?

I’ll stop alright bye bye.

Question This
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Question This

Oh the irony! (on a topic of censorship & power) The truth is outed, the moment your own integrity & honesty is questioned. Your first response is to use your own power to prevent free speech & the search for truth!

Over & out.

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We haven’t censored a single one of your numerous posts, as you well know, not even the ones in which you attack us. You are simply the latest of many trolls to exploit our total lack of censorship in order to lie about being censored. It’s an old trick and a tired one.

Gezzah Potts
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Thanks, and again, fully agree with your comments about this site. I need to be bit more disciplined, and just fully ignore them. Have a good weekend Admin.

hotrod31
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There is an important distinction to be made here …

Are the writers who might contribute their labours, or an occasional article to OffG, ‘pro-Russian,’ or are they, pro-Truth, irrespective of who ‘tells’ it?
I’m inclined to believe that it is the latter.

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We need to get ready for samizdat.

Gezzah Potts
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Or learn how to do smoke signals, or Morse Code or something…. Can almost imagine how bad it’ll be in 4 or 5 years, tho thats assuming a few seismic events don’t happen before then.

SharonM
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This is an interesting article:

“Gladio, Tulsi Gabbard And US Shootings: What The Hell Is Going On?”
https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/08/gladio-tulsi-gabbard-and-us-shootings-what-the-hell-is-going-on/

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I don’t trust James Corbett further than I can spit, because he’s in the pocket of the nuclear industry. Corbett apparently lives in Japan, yet he always downplays Fukushima, and Fukushima is probably the greatest disaster in human history.

Go figure…

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Is anyone NOT reading the Whitney Webb series on Epstein, his network and those connected to it ?
Has OffG run any Epstein related pieces at all ? I must have missed them if they did.
Webb has done an astonishing job of putting the scandal in a propper setting of organised crime bosses, bi-partisan political funders, blackmailers, foreign and domestic spies, government office holders and shaddow figures of the past 60 years.
If you want to understand why people like me refute the still insistent assertions that Israel is no more than a ‘client state’ of the US empire, then there is no better reading than this.
Who runs Amerika ? The MEGA group (or related) seem to have a rather prominent and unsavoury role it would seem. If you want to create a conspiracy theory to help explain things today, consider the information in these articles when formulating it:
https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

RobG
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America gives more money to so-called ‘hostile’ Arab states than it gives to Israel.

60% of Americans identify as being Christian evangelists. Go check out what their religion means and how it relates to Israel.

John Bolton, Mike Pompeo and most of the rest of the psychopaths in the present American government are all Christian evangelists (and we’re told that the Iranians are a bunch of religious nutters!).

Keep drinking deeply on the Kool Aid…

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This is bo**ocks.
America doesn’t give a red cent to Arab states like Shady Wahabia, Kuwait, Qatar, or any of the petty Gulf Dictatorships. They have paid trillions in the other direction in protection money in various forms, purchases of trillions in arms they don’t need and can’t operate without foreign mercenaries, support for the $, billions to Neocon front groups, crude payola to US whore politicians.
It gives a limited amount of military equipment to dictatorships like Egypt and Jordan, to keep their dictators in power so long as they continue to serve Zionist interests. All this is subject to prior approval from Tel Aviv.
It gives Israel $23,000 per family. Its tribute payments to Talmudistan can only be measured in trillions. Its entire military budget, all its systems are completely paid for by the US taxpayer. (Except for the multi billion Dolphin submarines, paid for by the German taxpayer.)
Talmudistan is the biggest scrounging parasite on the planet.

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And while there are certainly millions of religious nut jobs and halfwits like Pence and Pompeo, to say that 60% are Christian Evangelists or Christian Zionists is likewise bo**ocks.

60% is 200 million people. Many in the US are atheists or agnostics or couldn’t care less about religion one way or another. Of those who are religious, many are Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, or whatever.

RobG
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism_in_the_United_States

Please provide some kind of link to back-up what you’re saying.

RobG
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America’s hegemony comes from the petrodollar, which is entirely dependent on the Arab states.

crank
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RobG,
No, about 70% of the US population identify as ‘Christian’, and about 25% as ‘evangelists’.
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/
This doesn’t explain the accross the board support for Israel in the political culture of the US. Lobbying, financial bribery, party doantions, blackmail (read Webb) and a network of foreign agents within powerful positions both sides of the aisle (as well as in the corporate world). Coming top in THESE is what leads to 29 standing ovations in congress.
You are bottling Kool Aid and selling it.

Seamus Padraig
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America gives more money to so-called ‘hostile’ Arab states than it gives to Israel.Except that most of that aid to Egypt and Jordan is really just more indirect aid to Israel. To wit: we pay them not to go to war with the Israelis or to help the Palestinians.

RobG
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At the risk of sounding like the record is stuck, check out the petrodollar (which has little to do with Israel).

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

You mean the Saudis demanding payment in US dollars? Well, that’d aid to America, not from it. And that’s coming from KSA, which has almost never done anything for Palestine, rather than Egypt or Jordan.

RobG
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Seamus, as a result of the agreement between Saudi Arabia and the USA in the early 1970s (shortly after the US dollar abandoned the gold standard) all oil sales worldwide have been done in US dollars. This has given the USA tremendous financial clout worldwide, ever since. All the countries that the USA has attacked since then have been countries that have tried to sell oil in currencies other than the US dollar.

This is world history 101.

Part of the petrodollar agreement is that the USA will protect Arab oil producers, both financially and militarily.

Once again, this has practically zilch to do with Israel (which has no oil).

I’ll venture again that the Israel influence on America (which is completely against America’s financial interests) is mostly due to the religious nutters in America, many of whom inhabit politics.

RobG
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The petrodollar, anyone? What do you think that’s all about (clue: it doesn’t have much to do with Israel).

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Thanks for that, C.
This is a real jumbo can of worms that will probably never be fully exposed.
It is like a huge sprawling octopus of gross criminality of every type, encompassing the globe and controlled by a small shadowy Zionist cabal largely serving its own exclusive interests.
Fraud and financial crime on a monumental and unimaginable scale. General gangsterism, murder, robbery, blackmail, corruption. Sexual crime of the most gross nature also conducted on an epic scale. Political subversion, terrorism, espionage. All interconnected. Those involved moving seamlessly between the worlds of politics, espionage, organised crime, and sex trafficking. With Israel at the centre of the web, long established as the world centre of financial crime, drug -, organ-, sex-, and arms-trafficking.
There has been much of a hullabaloo over Huawei, but it is readily apparent it is far more urgent that the products of any Israeli technology company (or even in which there is a Jewish interest) should be subject to a complete ban.
Further, no Israeli, Zionist, or even Jewish person should be allowed to hold any sensitive position in government, finance, business, or media. They can run bagel shops, or clothing businesses, or retailers, or whatever, leading productive and prosperous lives, so long as they are banned from bribing and buying politicians.
To those who say this is anti semitic, to those who say this would be unjust to many perfectly decent people leading normal lives, I would have to say you are correct.
But before you get too upset, I would just ask you to read C’s link above, and tell me it is not justified and necessary.

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Cannot and will not endorse your proposed reaction to this problem Mark.
I would rather a world with less government/ media/ financial power in place to be co-opted by anyone.
What does seem important to me is : of those who want to address the general situation of this crisis stricken world, that more realise these truths as a factor that needs addressing. That it is not understood (and regarded as a moral failing to even talk about) is perhaps the key obstacle to many doorways of renewal.

DunGroanin
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It should be easy to set up a register of which elected lawmakers and civil servants hold more than one passport.

Surely they ought to give up any such multiple legal nationality once they are employed by a state?

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

The only problem with your proposal, Mark, is that you would then run into the ‘crypto-Jew’ problem. (Inquire with the Spaniards.) Oh–and we’d have to amend the Constitution as well.

Maggie
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Thanks for this info Crank. Just spent three hours downloading and reading. And still not completed. Will return to it in the morning.
I think we can safely say that we have the snake pit that is the Deep State/Establishment in these documents.
All that is needed now is to get them into chronological order.
Mark more or less sums it up.. There has been a Zionist Cabal controlling everything that will feather their nests and fulfil their depravity.
Exactly the same Cabal were taking root prior to the last W War, and actually showed their hand when they declared war on Germany.. But then that fact was buried under the Holo-hysteria.
Then they wonder why people despise them so?
The saddest thing of all is that they purport to be Jews, but they are not!
They are Talmudic Cabalistic Lucifarians
This will probably earn me the title ‘anti-semitic’ – a title invented by the above elite who are hiding amongst the Jews. And are attempting to close down all free speech to prevent people from seeing exactly what they are.

But I must stress that these people I will be referring to are NOT Jews.

Some Christians like refer to the biblical passage from Revelation 3:9 in which it says “the synagogue of Satan – those who profess to be Jews, but are liars, because they are no such thing.” I can’t find a more accurate description than this.

From my research I have gathered that so-called ‘Judaism’ is just the latest incarnation of a socioeconomically powerful cult that has been with us perhaps since the beginning of civilization, always manoeuvring itself to the top centres of power…almost always through mass murder.
Blood, it seems, is a requirement.
They spill blood in great quantities.
They don’t consider a deal closed until it has been sloshed in blood.

Did you ever stop and ask yourself why the majority of Israelis (God’s ‘chosen people’) are ATHEISTS?

Why the Israeli Mafia is the centre of the ‘ecstasy’ trade and human sex trafficking?
Why Israelis were caught filming and celebrating the collapse of the towers on 9/11?
Why Israel can’t stop murdering Palestinians?

No, the leadership of Israel are NOT JEWS.

They use 99.9% of the Jewish population as useful tools and as cover for themselves.
And have no aversion to slaughtering their fellow ‘jews’ (who are really seen as cattle, just like the rest of us)

Let’s get it straight on who these people are:

TALMUDIC CABALISTIC LUCIFERIANS

In other words, elitist practitioners of satanic magic.
They are a very small elite who hide, victimize and make use of a population group known as Jews.
‘Jews’ are just the most recent incarnation of this host population group.
Before that they were known as Israelis.
Before that they were known as the Hebrews.
Before that they were the Hyksos.
Before that they were the Amorites.

Always polyglot, always nebulous, always on the move…always murderous.

You don’t have to use much imagination to see that when you are dealing with these people you are dealing with the Devil.

Maggie
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Maggie

I posted earlier that Epstein has been found ‘dead’ hanged in his cell?
Then gave some thought to that statement.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/guid/EA1F58F8-BB71-11E9-BF3F-A628A40E7CB0
Two weeks ago 20th July 2019 Epstein was found in his cell with neck injuries? And we all said it was no more than he deserved, and the easily duped were prepared ..
He was then isolated and put on suicide watch? Which meant he had access to NOTHING with which to harm himself….
Despite all precautions, Epstein was found dead – ”hanged”- or was he?

Epstein’s defence lawyers Reid Weingarten, Marty Weinberg and Michael Miller said in a statement that ‘they could not confirm his cause of death’ and hoped it would be investigated by the U.S. Attorney’s office and the United States Marshals Service.
I guess we can count on them to be completely impartial and trustworthy?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-attorneys-office-under-investigation-after-700-lawyers-were-spied-on-in-prison
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/four-year-senate-probe-finds-us-marshals-service-plagued-with-corruption

Epstein is probably on some remote Island, sunning himself and sipping G&T’s with his girlfriend’s Father as we speak….

Maggie
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Maggie

…and Bill Clinton escapes AGAIN from another sleazy associate ”dying” while being in his circle….

USAma Bin Laden
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USAma Bin Laden

This FBI memo warning about the dangers of conspiracy theories is actually a salutary warning–but not in the sense that the FBI intended.

After all, the threat of conspiracy peddlers and the violence that they engender is preeminently exemplified by the purveyors of the Official Conspiracy Theory of 9-11 and how some Arabs armed only with box-cutters were directed by some dude in a cave in Afghanistan to fly planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the latter of which is some of the most heavily guarded airspace on the planet.

This is not to mention how these intrepid terrorists were miraculously able to capitalize on a stand-down of US air defenses on this day such that any attempt to intercept these airplanes were conveniently too little and too late.

This Mainstream Conspiracy of 9-11 was not only massively promoted by the American government, free press, and indeed most of the US political, intellectual, and media class but more importantly directly led to violent wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention Predator drone strikes against Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and many other nations–all told leading to the collateral murder of hundreds of thousands of people and the destruction of the livelihoods of millions in multiple nations.

The purveyors of the Official Conspiracy of 9-11 and the American state terrorist who were inspired to commit violent acts by this conspiracy theory need to be removed, regulated or countered in terms of their demonstrably harmful conspiratorial content.

😉

Peugeot
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Peugeot

https://www.irishcentral.com › Culture › Entertainment
31 Jul 2019 – Travers remembers vividly the checkpoint which the band members … The bomb went off prematurely killing the two who had planted it. … Read More: Miami Showband killed by detonators MI5 gave to UVF … band members labeled as terrorists and put pressure on the Irish government to seal the border.

wardropper
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wardropper

Non-violence is the way to go.
A large group of concerned citizens walks calmly into the FBI / CIA buildings and announces: “You’re all fired. It’s nothing personal; it’s just that the country unfortunately can’t afford to pay you any longer.
Also, the conspiracy theory that trillions of dollars have been wasted by this organization over recent decades turned out to be true.”

Question This
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Question This

A large group of concerned citizens walks calmly into the FBI / CIA buildings and announces: “You’re all fired.

I presume you you say this partly in jest, but you are actually absolutely right! They would have no answer to Peaceful Collective mass non-compliance.

SharonM
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SharonM

Did y’all see the video of the woman in El Paso saying that she saw 4 gunmen dresses in black doing all the shooting?
“El Paso eye witness describes 4 men all dressed in black as shooters”

Question This
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Question This

To be fair in all the confusion it could have been anyone, most likely para military police in response.

I did see a link from a commentator in zero hedge with a link to a site that claims the Dayton Ohio shooter died in 2014 & his sister he allegedly shot was at his funeral. I looked at the site (cant find it now) the only evidence was a screen cap of an article the site was a bit dodgy.

SharonM
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SharonM

I saw that as well here:
“Connor Betts Died in 2014… Seriously?”
https://usahitman.com/connorbetts-died2014/

There’s not enough information about it all to make any judgments.
But, to be fair to the witness in the video I posted, she doesn’t seem confused in the least. She’s very clear.

mark
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mark

This recalls the Belgian supermarket shootings of the 1980s.
It probably serves several purposes.

Attack on Trump in the run up to the election.
Remember that the spooks and the dirty cops conspired to prevent his election, and then to undermine his administration.
Staging an incident like this would be child’s play for the likes of Comey/ Clapper/ Brennan/ Strzok. All in a day’s work. Their stock in trade.

An attack on 2nd Amendment rights.
There is a long term objective of disarming the population. This has been achieved in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries.
Whatever you think of gun ownership it is an implicit check on dictatorship.

An excuse for further censorship.
Control of alternative media.
Closing down “inconvenient” sites which challenge official narratives, like Iraq Incubator Babies and Syrian Gas Hoaxes.

Creating a general climate of fear and uncertainty.
This can be used to justify repressive legislation and shredding civil liberties.

SharonM
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SharonM

Those who say that these mass murder shootings are for gun-grabs have failed to make their case, in my view.
How many mass murders do they want? They’re happening here so regularly that it’s become incredibly annoying to listen to these people about it. I say the false flag gun-grab theory is ridiculous. Nothing major has changed as far as the second amendment. It’s just right wing cuckoos in love with guns who cart that theory out. And also, these same cuckoos always cite the theory that they need their guns to stop the government from having power over them–like you said, dictatorship. But that’s idiotic because those morons are the ones who support the right wing government in the first place. Give them some ‘god-gun- flag-loving’ idiot running for office and they worship them.
If this was a false flag, then I’ll go with your alternative media reason–Internet control;)

Question This
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Question This

Think I agree with you here. Though i need real evidence to be convinced these are false flags.I really think they are just disenfranchised young men, caused by divisive politics.

SharonM
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SharonM

Yes, we need more evidence, but that eyewitness wasn’t the only one saying that there were multiple gunmen. No one has explained why it was broadcast as multiple shooters.

mark
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mark

A regime that fears its own population puts gun grabbing at the top of its list of priorities.
The UK in 1919.
Germany in 1933.
You could give a long list of other examples.
They tried to ban handguns in medieval times.
Prior to that, they tried to ban crossbows (unless you were using them against Moslems.)

SharonM
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SharonM

I don’t think there were hand guns in medieval times. Anyway, the arms industry is gigantic in the U.S., there’s no way they want to shut it down. This is all right wing propaganda from the arms industry itself. I don’t believe any of it.
America is a violent country, so there’s no reason why handguns should be banned for personal protection. Right wing gun-lovers are just a bunch of paranoid crazies. They’re just cowards who gave us the sick U.S. regime in the first place–the one they claim to be putting in check by having a personal arsenal.

mark
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mark

There were handguns from the 1400s. Some of them were quite sophisticated with wheellock mechanisms. A lot of medieval rulers were terrified of becoming JFK/ grassy knoll type victims, and tried to ban them. They weren’t so interested in long arms.

Some of these guns were beautifully made, south German/ north Italian craftsmanship. Augsburg, Stuttgart, Milan.

SharonM
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SharonM

Oh, 1400s. Yes, you were right:)

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

Right wing gun-lovers are just a bunch of paranoid crazies. They’re just cowards who gave us the sick U.S. regime in the first place–the one they claim to be putting in check by having a personal arsenal.

Funny: you must think we have democracy in the US, or something. But in that case, why would these “paranoid” gun-owners so fear a government that they themselves controlled? Makes no sense!

SharonM
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SharonM

Please. By giving huge profits to the arms industry, they themselves perpetuate the regime they supposedly fear.

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DunGroanin

You don’t need guns to scare the lords and masters – sticks and stones are enough. Pitchforks and fire are even more deadlier.

It is the masses, rising up in revolt, that no amount of guns and bullets and private armies , can stop, that scares the shit out of them.

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I certainly think the liberals use these events as advocacy for gun grabbin. The US isn’t UK & NZ, they were push overs. That said i did see something quite some time back about the authorities taking away everyone’s guns after hurricane Katrina, in effected areas, there didn’t seem to be any real fuss over that.

The American constitution was written before AR-15 assault rifles, I cant see any real justification for owning them, but my views on gun ownership has changed I used to be anti, now i’m very much pro, so not sure its really working if that’s their intent. From my perspective it seems to me there’s growing resentment of liberal ideologies

I do support gun control though by de-militarizing the police!

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Robbobbobin

“I certainly think the liberals use these events as advocacy for gun grabbin. The US isn’t UK & NZ, they were push overs. […] The American constitution was written before AR-15 assault rifles, I cant see any real justification for owning them, […] I do support gun control though by de-militarizing the police!”

The good news, from your perspective, will be that New Zealand has banned only assault rifles, those with high capacity magazines that can self-reload and other such guns or related modifications (bump stocks, etc.); the bad news is that the military and police are exempt. The informed commentary, from my perspective, concerns only the bad news from yours and consists of only two words: Of course.

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The informed commentary, from my perspective, concerns only the bad news from yours and consists of only two words: Of course.

English translation?

You seem to have an issue, following me around like a stalker, deliberately taking my comments out of context! If you must be critical about me, at least have the decency to ask me for clarification before being so obtuse.

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Robbobbobin

“‘The informed commentary, from my perspective, concerns only the bad news from yours and consists of only two words: Of course.’

English translation?”

‘Of course’? Well ‘Natürlich’ or ‘Indubbiamente’ would sort-of work, but ‘Of course’ remains the closest I can come up with at such short notice.

“You seem to have an issue, following me around like a stalker, deliberately taking my comments out of context! If you must be critical about me, at least have the decency to ask me for clarification before being so obtuse.”

Sorry Naggie. I didn’t realize you were the same person. I thought that having two or more posting IDs was not considered to be cricket on this site. But I do see your point. Even the Australian High Court agrees that the Australian public service is thoroughly committed to free speech provided it says what they want said in the way they want it said. My regards to the istorian.

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Joerg

I love corbettreport! Especially because I get a lot of information (also going back in history), that I don’t get elsewhere.
But James Corbett is missing the ‘main point’.
And this is sad, because understanding this main point opens up for us a counter-strategy.

What is this ‘main point’?
It starts with the murder of JFK. Than the government spilled out a conspiracy theory (in the following “GCT” = Government Conspiracy Theory). This conspiracy theory said that Lee Harvey Oswald – with the help of Cubans and Sow jets/Russians – murdered JFK.

As soon as DEBUNKERS against this GCT appeared the CIA/FBI developed this strategy to defame DEBUNKERS of this GCT as “conspiracy theorists”.
The same with George W, Bush: When he cried out (911) ‘it was Osama and his Al Kaida` he immediately added: “Let’s never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories”. With this he meant us, the DEBUNKERS!
So we are not at all “conspiracy theorists” but only anti-GCT-DEBUNKERS.

The main point is that we all are flooded(!) with GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY THEORIES (GTC) day by day! And its time to not to defend – but to attack those Government Conspiracy Theorists!
here are some of them:
1) with the help of Cuban and Russian Oswald murdered JFK.
2) 911 – some Arabs meet in an Afghan cave to conspire attacks on New York/Washington with airliners
3) Ukrainian president Janukovitsh killed demonstrators on the Maidan place.
4) Malaysian Airliner over Ukraine – shot down by Russian military people
4) Russian meddling in US election
5) Wikileaks/Assange conspiring with Russia’s hackers hacking the DNC
6) Russian conspiracy to murder Mr. Skripal (by the way: Mr. Skripal and his daughter Julia Skripal had been procrastinated to this day. They are incarcerates in solitary confinement – without any possibility to live their life or to contact other people. BUT NO ONE CARES! God only knows what happens to them day by day. They even have no attorney or are able to go before a court.
7) Paul Manaford conspiring with Wikileaks/ Assange
8) Iran supporting terrorists
9) Iran eager to have own nuclear bombs
9) Gaddafi (and military/secret service) killing his own people
10) Assad (and his military/secret service) poisoning his own people
My list above is all but complete (You are free to remember more) … and there are more and more GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES THEORIES day by day!

My suggestion to those of you, who are busy in the internet (I am not): Please demand(!) from Youtube, Facebook and all the social media and also from the online media corporations and also from free websites to immediately block these GCT, wherever they appear!

And for those who have less internet but more personal contact (like me): If you have a conversation counterpart, who claims that Osama & Al Kaida did 911, then answer “why don’t You put out Your tin foil hat, you crazy Government Conspiracy Theorist??!!.
And then add this: “Now I understand why Germany – until then considered quite civilized – fall for the Nazis. No, I don’t say You are a Nazi – but You are a “NAZI-DOOR-OPENER”! Like this George W. Bush conspiracy theory now You would have propagated this Nazi GCT of he “Gleiwitz Incident” (please look this up in Wikipedia). with this WWII started – like with Bush the ruining of the states of Middle East , Afghanistan, Pakistan and (earlier) Somalia and Sudan) started.”:
Let me add this. Also before the GCT of the “Gleiwitz Incident”, the Nazi, who lost heavily in the last free election of autumn 1932 – and were only allowed to make up a “Minority Cabinet” (in danger to be kicked off any time by the non-Nazi majority in parliament) produced the “Reichstag brand” GTC. (For those of you, who understand German, pleas see: https://youtu.be/XeVk8k2ptSw?t=3260).

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Savorywill

How can you say you ‘love corbettreport’ but ‘he’s missing the main point’ and then start with the JFK assassination as an example of this. Corbett has covered extensively about the JFK assassination, as well as other suspicious events, 9/11, for example.

I suggest you check out his extensive work before making such sweeping assertions which are patently wrong!

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Some say George Bush senior was responsible for JFK. The reality is non of us will be safe until we abolish the deep states agencies of terror, CIA, FBI, Mi5/6, Mossad etc.

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mark

That’s very true. These organisations are more dangerous than any foreign army or terrorist organisations, most of which of course they created in the first place, and which they control.

SharonM
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SharonM

You lost me on what Corbett is missing, but your list is correct.

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wardropper

I appreciate your passion and the general thrust of your argument, but it needs focus.
It has many correct details, but verges on ranting, and ranting is too easy for the “Deep State” to ridicule.
One thing I would certainly encourage when dealing with what the media consider to be “controversial” topics, is for people to read all official versions and all conspiracy theories, then make up their own mind, based on their intelligence, common sense and education.
Any attempt to debunk propaganda-motivated GCTs must come from balanced study.

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Joerg

@wardropper
I don’t know what You mean when You say:”your argument… but it needs focus
All I said was, that the brave James Corbett got it wrong here: Not we, the (woke up) citizens are “conspiracy theorists” – but the government people are. And we, the (woke up) citizens are only the DEBUNKERS of these disgusting “Government conspiracy Theories”.
How can I “focus” more??
What’s wrong with You, wardropper?

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You need more than one source. The system misinforms, misdirects & obfuscates by omission to deceive, but rarely directly lies (because lies are to easy to disprove).

I personally am not a huge fan of Corbett, I never allow only one source, website or person to influence critical thought, collate the evidence then make an objective conclusion based on verifiable facts.

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wardropper

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with me, and I didn’t intend to insult you.
I understood what you said, but it was rather hard work doing so, because your rather long comment spreads its emphasis so widely that I would need to make several comments to answer all your points.
That’s all I meant.
Perhaps I’m wrong, but I don’t think that makes me certifiable.

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mark

We have been lied to so often you have to question all received wisdom and all the historical record.
Things like the “holocaust.”
Think how easy it would be too fabricate that narrative.
Faked photos, funeral pyres of air raid casualties passed off as murder victims, fake footage, fake witnesses, faked confessions, show trials.
All these techniques have been used in these recent hoaxes, so why not in this case?
What can you believe any more?
Just what can you take on trust now?
All you can do is remain extremely sceptical, use your own judgement so far as you can, and have a default position of automatically disbelieving any official narrative and anything in the MSM.

It is a proven fact that we have been lied to again and again and again and again.
It seems reasonable to assume everything else we have been told in the past, and everything we will be told in the future, is similarly false.

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Savorywill

Thank you for posting this! It does seem like, though, that the FBI has been losing credibility with the revelations of their interference in the US presidential election and maybe the election of Trump is causing seismic changes in the political order in the US. People have become so polarized and actually quite irrational in how they see things. It is weird how former ‘lefties’ and anti-war ‘ex-hippies’ hop on the war bandwagon of thinking Assad has to go, or Putin is another Hitler, ridiculous stuff like that. I remember one FB friend being outraged that Trump actually announced the missile attack before the missiles reached their targets in Syria. She stated that the people could flee the area and how Trump stupid could Trump be! I commented, ‘But, ‘isn’t that good, that people won’t be killed?’

Strange times we are living in.

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It truly is a marvel how they manage to strangle us with the propagandistic “conspiracy theory” … but at the same time flaunt their hand at us with a nose cone popping out the other side of the South tower, parents of dead children smiling broadly, miracle survivors of nine bullets, a whistleblower leaking documents by copying them onto CDs labelled “Lady Ga Ga” to smuggle them through security and on and on.

They are utterly genius at mind control, utterly genius … or are we just … ?

George
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George

The ruling class of any age have always enjoyed playing brutal sadistic games on their minions. I wouldn’t be surprised if those “mistakes” are deliberately placed to provoke “truth movements” which can them be manipulated to go through circus gyrations for the mocking glee of the overlords.

George
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George

“which can them” should be “which can theN”

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They are deliberately placed, all right, George. Deliberately placed … for – exactly as you say – their mocking glee.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/they-tell-us-clearly.html

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Robbobbobin

Mocking glee? Bullshit (addressed to you and at least one other BTL commenter in this thread who makes a similar claim, plus the large contingent of like-minded out there who aren’t reading here). Those on the inside who are in there doing whatever it is they need to do to organize the multitude of events that the world’s assorted “conspiracy theorists” identify as conspiracies (only a very small subset of which are actually such conspiracies) couldn’t give a shit about setting them or any aspect of them up as amusement for themselves and their buddies. They’re far too busy getting on with the business of business and the high life of the high life. The common “mocking glee” concept of those who feel themselves so mocked is mostly an indicator of prime, A-grade clinical narcissism doing nothing but projecting bullshit self importance. “They” don’t mock you/us, they hardly even consider you/us except as elements in a strategy to achieve an end.

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They’re far too busy getting on with the business of business and the high life of the high life.

They have taxpayers funding the agents employed to come up with this stuff – they just sit back and have a chortle. Luxury yachts and whatnot get old – and they always like to keep themselves reminded of how dumb we are and how were deserve to be treated like morons.

I have laughed myself when looking at what they purport as evidence – the 400,000 files leaked by Chelsea that she downloaded onto CDs labelled Lady Ga Ga, for example … and I really did chortle over Professor Dietrich von Schmausen of the North American Institute for Xenobiological Research, with his specimen of an alien brain. We’re told that von Schmausen is the nephew of Bill Kaysing, the first man to come out and say that the moon landings were a hoax. Obviously, Bill must have been a CIA plant whose job was to ensure the 10% or so of the population who don’t believe what authorities say by default spout off stupidly about the landings being fake so that whenever they come out and call the truth on a state crime no one will believe them and thus they and the evidence-based thinkers also calling out the crime will all be tarred with the same “conspiracy-theorist” brush. Pretty clever, no?

I think they chortle long and hard. The terrorists popping up alive, WTC-7’s collapse announced 20 minutes before it happened, Larry saying he said to “pull it”? And what about this giveaway?

Conversation between Brian Williams, MSNBC News Anchor and David Restuccio, FDNY EMS Lieutenant about WTC-7, the third building to collapse at the WTC on 9/11, after its collapse:

“Can you confirm that it was No 7 that just went in?”
[“Went in” is a term used in controlled demolition that comes from the fact that the buildings fall in on themselves.]

“Yes, sir.”

“And you guys knew this was comin’ all day.”

“We had heard reports that the building was unstable and that eventually it would either come down on its own or it would be taken down.”
https://youtu.be/i5b719rVpds?t=224

flaxgirl
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Just to point out Robbobbobin – what you do in your post is assert without any consideration of the evidence. You must consider the evidence of what is said to be indications of their “mocking glee” and argue against that, not simply assert. Assertion is not an argument.

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mark

Some of these false flags have weird numerical markers that look like numerology.
9/11. 9+1+1=11. The 2 towers look like 11. One of the aircraft flight numbers was 11.
Like MH17. There were other elements of 17, like the airliner being 17 years old.
I can’t remember them all. The details aren’t that important.
But they are present and more than coincidence.
I don’t think they have an occult significance, more of a sadistic practical joke by those involved, or some kind of marker to “people in the know.”
“This is our handiwork – so don’t get involved, if you know what’s good for you. Keep Off.”

George
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George

Also – as has been pointed out so many times – 911 us the emergency code in the US. The occult significance angle may have been overplayed by e.g. Dave McGowan in his “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon” book. However, in his defense, if the people he is writing about themselves put significance in those matters – such as special dates – then the occult matter is worth mentioning.

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Ben Trovata

I like the connection you made with marking territory: ” Stay away!”” This belongs to us!”” Trespassers will be prosecuted”,and those who know the patois.Also,I note that R.B.Fuller paid attention to numbers disconnected to the usual disciplines!

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Ben Trovata

I apologize for this off-topic –somewhat silly — question:What if the Queen didn’t ask Boris Johnson if he’d like to form a government? What if it was:”Nice of you to come to tea,Johnson.Goodbye.” ?What would happen next?( What’s the protocol? )

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Ben Trovata

I’m not knocking the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints,but,wasn’t a career in the FBI, well trod by those church-going,distilled spirits-abstaining,profanity less people?

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lundiel

I rather hope Johnson would then have her escorted to Belmarsh.

mark
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mark

I’d like to see the Queen taking over direct rule.
Let’s give it a try. She couldn’t do any worse.
Send in the Beefeaters.
That’s the way the country used to be run.
Maybe we should give it a try.
Put Johnson in the Tower.

Oliver
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Oliver

The Queen has plenty of culpability in all this, carefully hidden. She was in Pembrokeshire, West Wales on September 11 2001, a low-key visit interrupted by events in Manhattan. Records of that visit have been erased ‘to protect her from any embarrassment’. What could possibly be embarrassing for the owner of HM armed forces? Anyone heard of the Manhattan Project?

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DunGroanin

In the theocratic monarchic parliamentry system the Queen or King of the day have NO real power. The power resides in the Crown.
Which consists pretty much of all these arseholes who have lots of letters after their name – a few thousand at most around a central core.

So the Queen follows orders of the Crown and they sent Boris to see her for her imprimatur for … the optics.

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Ben, Consiquitionally the monarch can invite anyone she wishes to form a government, but they have to be able to command a majority in the House of Commons. The passage of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act in 2011 has rather muddied the waters though, as since the passage of that Act a government can continue (until five years after the last general election) even though the prime minister cannot command a majority. However, if the monarch invited someone to form a government against the advice of the outgoing prime minister, it would create a crisis. But a scenario that would plausibly meet your question would have been if Theresa May had advised the queen to invite someone other than Boris Johnson to form a government. If that person were able to command a majority in the Commons, they would be the prime minister and government.