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Inevitable Withdrawal: The US-Taliban Deal

Binoy Kampmark

It took gallons and flagons of blood, but it eventuated, a squeeze of history into a parchment of possibility: the Taliban eventually pushed the sole superpower on this expiring earth to a deal of some consequence. (The stress is on the some – the consequence is almost always unknown.)

“In principle, on paper, yes we have reached an agreement,” claimed the US envoy Zalmay Khalilzad on the Afghan channel ToloNews. “But it is not final until the president of the United States also agrees to it.”

The agreement entails the withdrawal (the public relations feature of the exercise teasingly calls this “pulling out”) of 5,400 troops from the current complement of 14,000 within 135 days of signature. Five military bases will close or be transferred to the Afghan government.

In return, the Taliban has given an undertaking never to host forces with the intention of attacking the US and its interests.

Exactitude, however, is eluding the press and those keen to get to the marrow. Word on the policy grapevine is that this is part of an inexorable process that will see a full evacuation within 16 months, though this remains gossip.

The entire process has its exclusions, qualifications and mutual deceptions. In it is a concession, reluctant but ultimately accepted, that the Taliban was a credible power that could never be ignored.

To date, the US has held nine rounds of talks, a seemingly dragged out process with one ultimate outcome: a reduction, and ultimate exit of combat forces.

The Taliban was not, as the thesis of certain US strategists, a foreign bacillus moving its way through the Afghan body politic, the imposition of a global fundamentalist corporation. Corrupt local officials of the second rank, however, were also very much part and parcel of the effort, rendering any containment strategy meaningless.

A narrative popular and equally fallacious was the notion that the Taliban had suffered defeat and would miraculously move into the back pages of history. Similar views were expressed during the failed effort by the United States to combat the Viet Cong in South Vietnam. An elaborate calculus was created, a mirage facilitated through language: the body count became a means of confusing numbers with political effect.

Time and time again, the Taliban demonstrated that B52s, well-equipped foreign forces and cruise missiles could not extricate them from the land that has claimed so many empires. Politics can only ever be the realisation of tribes, collectives, peoples; weapons and material are unkind and useful companions, but never viable electors or officials.

Even now, the desire to remain from those in overfunded think tanks and well-furnished boardrooms, namely former diplomats engaged on the Afghan project, is stubborn and delusionary. If withdrawal is to take place, goes that tune, it should hinge on a pre-existing peace agreement.

An open letter published by the Atlantic Council by nine former US State Department officials previously connected with the country is a babbling affair.

If a peace agreement is going to succeed, we and others need to be committed to continued support for peace consolidation. This will require monitoring compliance, tamping down of those extremists opposed to peace, and supporting good governance and economic growth with international assistance.”

The presumptuousness of this tone is remarkable, heavy with work planning jargon and spread sheet nonsense. There is no peace to keep, nor governance worth preserving.

Instead, the authors of the note, including such failed bureaucratic luminaries as John Negroponte, Robert P. Finn and Ronald E. Neumann, opt for the imperial line: the US can afford staying in Afghanistan because the Afghans are the ones fighting and dying. (Again, this is Vietnam redux, an Afghan equivalent of Vietnamisation.)

In their words, “US fatalities are tragic, but the number of those killed in combat make up less than 20 percent of the US troops who died in non-combat training incidents.”

All good, then.

In a sign of ruthless bargaining, the Taliban continued the bloodletting even as the deal was being ironed of evident wrinkles. This movement knows nothing of peace but all about the life of war: death is its sovereign; corpses, its crop.

On Monday, the Green Village in Kabul was targeted by a truck bomb, leaving 16 dead (this toll being bound to rise).

It was a reminder that the Taliban, masters of whole swathes of the countryside, can also strike deep in the capital itself. The killings also supplied the Afghan government a salutary reminder of its impotence, underscored by the fact that President Ashraf Ghani played no role in the Qatar talks.

This leaves us with the realisation that much cruelty is on the horizon. The victory of the Taliban is an occasion to cheer the bloodying of the imperialist’s nose. But they will not leave documents of enlightenment, speeches to inspire.

This agreement will provide little comfort for those keen to read a text unmolested or seek an education free of crippling dogma. Interior cannibalisation is assured, with civil war a distinct possibility. Tribal war is bound to continue.

As this takes place, the hope for President Donald Trump and his officials will no doubt be similar to the British when they finally upped stakes on instruction from Prime Minister David Cameron: forget that the whole thing ever happened.

Dr. Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne. Email: [email protected]

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eddie
eddie
Sep 8, 2019 9:21 AM

Many great btl comments on this topic. Bravo !

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 8, 2019 3:54 AM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1170469621348098049

If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don’t have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway. How many more decades are they willing to fight?

vito marcantoni
vito marcantoni
Sep 7, 2019 6:55 PM

America has no interests in Afghanistan. Nor in any other nation. The interests of America, the country, its people end at its physical borders. They do not extend into the territory of other nations. They do not pierce the borders of other nations. We are lied to and told it is American “national interests” but it is not so. The interests belong solely and only to global capitalist corporations and financial institutions seeking to expand into the land mass and to steal the the minerals and the finances of other nations. The military is used as a “murder incorporated” hit squad on behalf of the expansionists. There is no defense of national interests. None. There are only the offensive economic, military and political wars against those who resist the takeover of their nations by global capitalist thieves.

davemass
davemass
Sep 7, 2019 3:22 PM

We Brits lost 4 wars in Afghanistan. The Soviets 1.(?)
Yanks never listen. Think they are invincible, like in Vietnam.
My only beef is the wreckers of the giant Buddha statue(s) in
2000 will get their hands on the reins of government.
Feel sorry for women there who want to go to school/uni, and drive cars?!

Jihadi Colin
Jihadi Colin
Sep 7, 2019 4:59 AM

The Taliban are Afghans fighting for their own country. They will continue, exactly like the Viet Cong, fighting for their own country until they win, like the Viet Cong, a total victory. It is their own country. They have nowhere else to go and no reason to do anything but fight the Amerikastani imperialist criminal invader and its puppet child sex slaver Quisling warlord regime. Neither of the two latter deserves any sympathy at all, no matter how much blood the Taliban compels them to shed.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 7, 2019 12:07 AM

Bloody Imperialism. So many corpses, so many innocent victims, so much filthy lucre to be made. So much destruction. How are shares in Raytheon and Northrop Grumman and Halliburton and Lockheed Martin going? Are they making a buck?
The depravity of this Empire knows no bounds.
What other countries are on their target list? How many more millions will die to feed the vultures at the top. The 0.01℅ and their sycophantic hangers on.

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Sep 7, 2019 4:55 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

BlackRock owns controlling shares in nearly all relevant companies. The German BlackRock wikipedia page lists some, the French page also. These are the manipulators behind the curtain. You check foreign pages by bringing up the page of X, and then click on another language on the left. Not very well known – this is the method to get that page for topic X, not the home page for that language. Companies and percentages are easy to recognize.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 7, 2019 5:10 AM
Reply to  Wilmers31

Thanks for that info Wilmers. End of the day, a small number of people are making vast fortunes from the death and destruction of millions of human beings and entire countries. Australia seems to want a peice of the action as well viz arms sales to Saudi Arabia, etc.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 7, 2019 11:44 AM
Reply to  Wilmers31

The Vanguard Group. A NASDAQ search will open up a rabbit hole of a web of interconnected ownerships. No regulation. Profits are shared, losses written off and shifted to taxpayers. Best business by far: arms manufacturing and military gear. The farther away from the U.S. – the better.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 6, 2019 10:33 PM

Still reminds me too much of Iraq.
In goes the Coalition of the Bribed and Threatened, then after the leader of the country is dutifully murdered, our troops go home and leave the Iraqi people to decide their own fate…
Except not quite.
One really doesn’t hear much about what the Iraqi people want today, or even who their current leaders are supposed to be.
As for the literally millions of brand new enemies the U.S. has wilfully created all by itself over recent decades… well, one is truly astonished that the U.S. doesn’t seem to consider the likely future implications of that at all.
I can only call it Ignorance Incarnate.

Jihadi Colin
Jihadi Colin
Sep 7, 2019 5:00 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Amerikastanis love their ignorance. They cosset and coddle and worship it.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 6, 2019 10:32 PM

This is the biggest news since September 11th, 2001: The University of Alaska in Fairbanks released a draft called A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7 PDF File here. The German Online Magazin Rubikon published today (September 7th, 2019 UTC+1) the article Die Sprengung (The Demolition – my translation). It is the first publication to do so. It will be interesting to see who is following suit. For 18 years, the masses all over the planet were lied to in regards to the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. These lies were used to start illegal wars – first in Afghanistan and subsequently in Iraq. Millions of innocent lives were murdered in cold blood. The entire Middle East was to be reworked based on these lies that have now come to an end. World Trade Center 7 collapsed due to a controlled demolition. Please refer… Read more »

FrankSpeaker
FrankSpeaker
Sep 6, 2019 10:45 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

The worst crime against humanity ever committed

History was obviously not your strong subject at school, nor since?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 6, 2019 11:40 PM
Reply to  FrankSpeaker

To the contrary. But you, obviously are lousy a math and fully programmed in not adding up what has happened based on this crime against humanity. Millions of innocent people to this day have died and are still dying. Rights have been erased and everybody is surveilled 24/7. Maybe not you, because you might well work for any of the agencies based on the gullibility of your statement. How many people really died because of 9/11 can only be guessed, but the number is huge, because I do know my history and math. I count all the suicides that stem from 9/11. All the cancers. All the victims of DU in the Middle East. Hell, there is no end to the casualties. WW II was a finite event with a finite body count. The largest number of casualties were inflicted on the Soviet Union. The casualties of the aftermath of… Read more »

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Sep 7, 2019 5:03 AM
Reply to  FrankSpeaker

It could well be when you take into consideration ALL the fall out, including refugees. I am not in the counting business but the damage done to a whole region will not be repaired easily, affects many generations. Just like an after effect of WWII occurred in 2008 when my brother died in Berlin. Lives were and are affected for a very long time.

War is generally bad and not worth it.
Afghanistan cannot be conquered – we knew that.
10/20 more years of Saddam Hussein would have done less damage than removing him.
10/20 more years of Gaddafi would haver done less damage than what we got.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 7, 2019 12:37 PM
Reply to  Wilmers31

It is insane. Like you said, the whole artificially created refugee stream to Europe – all the consequences of 9/11. Brexit – the result of 9/11. The drifting of countries formerly pretending to be democracies to the ultra right, speak fascist – the result of 9/11. Islamophobia started with 9/11. It gave anybody a free pass to hate the ‘rag heads’. And its effects on the Islamic world make the dancing Israelis all the more plausible. The American population was made to hate Muslims to their bones. This hate enabled the U.S. regime to act with impunity against Muslim nations throughout the world. You just had to say: “Hey, they are Muslims, you know.” And the masses would cheer “Let’s go!” All planned by people like Bannon, Bolton, Wolfowitz et al, the fascists instigating neo-fascism all over the world. Latin America, Eastern Europe, Europe – you name it. It would… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 7, 2019 2:35 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Absolutely spot on. I also agree with you that the whole thing is insane. And fecken surreal. Such breathtaking evil masquerading as something benign and good.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 7, 2019 12:15 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

I would like to make a correction: Paul Craig Roberts reported on the controlled demolition of the WTC on Sept. 4th. Needless to say that MS search engines will no longer provide results. Yesterday, Madhouse News followed, with Rubikon publishing today. It is also revealing that there is a Sinclair Broadcasting like repetition of headlines that state: “Putin warned Bush about impending attack TWO DAYS before 9/11 – ex CIA analyst” (Name of course not revealed) on RT. “Putin warned Bush 2 days before 9/11: Ex-CIA analyst” on Press TV. What did warn Putin Bush about? That the WTC is all wired for controlled demolition? Anyways, it becomes more apparent that I am indeed not the only one that realizes what the revelation of the controlled demolition actually means. The ‘war on terror’, that never was anything else but the war of terror, is glaringly obvious transparent. The Trillions missing… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Sep 8, 2019 1:05 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Youtuber Alien Scientist did some good work in his videos quite early on, to expose the 9/11 fraud.
Here is one such video, but also check out his others including some new ones which I imagine are good and his channel too which is very interesting:

9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!

mark
mark
Sep 6, 2019 10:00 PM

Why did America invade Afghanistan in the first place?
Nothing to do with 9/11 (if it was, Tel Aviv would have been carpet bombed.)

1. Its mineral wealth, copper, gas, and most other metals you can name.
2. The huge profits from the heroin trade.
3. Its strategic position to threaten Russia and China, meddle in the richest hydrocarbon regions of the planet, and sabotage the Belt And Road Initiative.

In the 1970s, Afghanistan had a progressive left wing regime. Women attended university wearing mini skirts. This regime was overthrown by US orchestrated terrorists with a barbaric medieval mindset. Uncle Sam funded the terrorists who threw acid in the faces of those women. Bin Laden was our best mate, on the CIA payroll for years.

If Alexander The Great couldn’t control Afghanistan, somehow I think the Neocohen No Hopers in the Beltway aren’t likely to have much luck either.

Jen
Jen
Sep 6, 2019 10:20 PM
Reply to  mark

Not only did women attend universities wearing miniskirts and other Western accoutrements in Afghanistan, they also supplied the majority of the country’s school teachers, nurses and public servants in the 1970s. No prizes then for guessing which parts of Afghanistan’s social and governing infrastructure collapsed first when the CIA-backed warlords came to power in the 1990s and imposed purdah on all women and girls and barred them from attending school and university

FrankSpeaker
FrankSpeaker
Sep 6, 2019 10:48 PM
Reply to  mark

Very true. American imperialism has destroyed so many women’s lives.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 6, 2019 11:02 PM
Reply to  mark

Why did America invade Afghanistan in the first place? Nothing to do with 9/11 (if it was, Tel Aviv would have been carpet bombed.) You are (intentionally?) mixing ‘motive’ and ‘reason’. Why? What is your agenda for doing so? The demolitions of the World Trade Center on 9/11 manufactured the consent of the world population/governments to either join the U.S., or to condone the invasion of Afghanistan. Without 9/11, the U.S. regime would have had no reason to give to the world population. The UN security council would have not acknowledged the right of the U.S. to do so. At the time of 9/11, only you must have know that Israel had perpetrated the demolitions. The majority of the world population went with the official lie about this event. If there would have been Israeli passports in the rubble, nothing would have happened. Zero. However, the U.S. would have not… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 7, 2019 2:11 AM
Reply to  mark

and sabotage the Belt And Road Initiative
The US fore saw the Belt and Road initiative 20 years in advance while Xi was studying chemical engineering? First class mind readers!

1. Its mineral wealth, copper, gas, and most other metals you can name.

The US has no land or sea access to Afghanistan: most difficult mineral haul in history.
For Xi-China today on the other hand it is the opposite.

US NSA Brzezinski from 1979 undermined the Russian supported Afghan government mainly to relieve stress from his native country Poland – a USSR satellite. His biggest mistake was to rely on the Pakistani ISI.

Ex general Mattis just called Pakistan ‘most dangerous country’ in the world with ‘fastest-growing nuclear arsenal’ https://www.rt.com/news/467932-pakistan-most-dangerous-country-mattis/

mark
mark
Sep 7, 2019 10:18 PM
Reply to  Antonym

The good general was forgetting the Zionist Folk.

Tonymike
Tonymike
Sep 6, 2019 9:18 PM

I recall as a young man the invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union in 1979, while my parents were stationed at a military base in Germany. Over the course of the invasion timeline I looked at western articles about the deplorable state of Afghanistan and the view areas the Soviets actually controlled as the CIA back Mujaheddin bravely fought the “invaders.” The Soviets only controlled a few areas and most of Kabul. Most of the country was under the rule of the tribes (pre Taliban). Turn the clock forward 40 years and I have looked at the “invasion” of Afghanistan in 1991 from my comfortable Western home and the 18 years of fighting Afghani terrorists (or freedom fighters as the CIA called them back in 1979) to bring Afghanistan to heel have been an abysmal failure on all fronts, especially militarily. I look at the maps of the areas… Read more »

RobG
RobG
Sep 6, 2019 8:10 PM

In respect to what’s going on in Afghanistan, in the wider region the biggest US military presence is the ‘Green Zone’, right in the middle of Baghdad…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/01/protestors-in-iraqs-green-zone-begin-to-withdraw

The Iraqi government and the Iraqi people have continually asked the Americans to f*ck off, but the Americans continue to occupy a large amount of land in central Baghdad – their fortress-like ’embassy’; the Green Zone.

The Iraqis are now closely allied with the Iranians.

What could possibly go wrong?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Sep 6, 2019 5:57 PM

…those extremists opposed to peace. Whoever paid for this think septic tank should demand their money back. Because the only extremists opposed to peace sit in Warshington, District of Criminals and City of Organized Crime, London. It makes it all the more clear that the ‘war’ in Afghanistan was never anything else but a coporate welfare program. A Military Industrial Fossil Fuel Surveillance welfare program. Therefore, these ‘think’ tanks are that by name only – pretend think tanks, since they a) never think anything through to the end, and b) never think about those at the receiving end of the stick. Their stick. Of course there can be no terror forces pullout in entirety. The heroine business is too important for the Criminals in Action. They will not let go of that easy. It is therefore to be expected – since the Taliban will continue with their efforts to eradicate… Read more »

Ben Trovata
Ben Trovata
Sep 6, 2019 6:25 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Abandoning their “golden goose” heroin business,I can’t see it happening gracefully!

Richard Steele
Richard Steele
Sep 6, 2019 11:06 PM
Reply to  Ben Trovata

Well, that was my opinion for many years. But recently, our heroin-overdose epidemic here in the USA has been greatly exacerbated by an influx of SYNTHETIC drugs which are much more powerful, and are frequently found mixed into the old-fashioned natural heroin, as though both are being combined in a single supply chain.
Perhaps it’s now more profitable to operate a few modern factories than to deal with an entire nation of heavily armed poppy farmers?
Just a thought.

lundiel
lundiel
Sep 7, 2019 8:58 AM
Reply to  Richard Steele

No. The money generated by modern American factories is regulated, the money from poppy fields doesn’t officially exist.

pablomillerunit
pablomillerunit
Sep 6, 2019 4:31 PM

While it is true “they grind our bones to make their bread “, there are some bones the giants can’t grind.The sad, and I think’ significant fact , is they knew no one ever won there. You have to ask yourself, therefore all the lives lost equate to, a cash cow and an experimental warfare lab. Great!

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 6, 2019 3:45 PM

Pashtunwali triumphs again. When will imperialists ever learn…?

Mucho
Mucho
Sep 6, 2019 3:32 PM

I just found this post on Craig Murray which I thought was important to share. Very clued up poster wrote this, about Mugabe and the filth that is the British establishment. It is off topic, but it is relevant too, and everyone reading this will hopefully find it as interesting as I did. “Hatuey September 6, 2019 at 14:06 It’s been entertaining to see the British news agencies trying to figure out how to deal with the death of Mugabe. This, if we remember, was a guy they used to give the red carpet treatment to. I believe he even received a state visit and met the Queen in the 1990s… Then he started tinkering with the flow of profits from his resource-rich country into British offshore accounts. Sound familiar? It should. The usual blueprint for destabilising a country was followed to the letter, sanctions, fomenting political unrest, pumping in… Read more »

mathias alexand
mathias alexand
Sep 6, 2019 2:41 PM

So what happens to the opium trade?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 6, 2019 3:52 PM

Well, the Taliban stopped it once. Restarting it was one of the main reasons for the Western gangsters’ invasion; that one small part of their – real – war-aims was achieved. The aim to threaten Russia and China with permanent bases has clearly failed. Probably the aim to loot Afghanistan’s mineral wealth will now fail too. Maybe the Taliban will stop the heroin-agriculture again. (Grow actually-needed food instead?)

vexarb
vexarb
Sep 6, 2019 4:14 PM

Rhisiart Gwilym, opium is a valuable painkiller. Like alcohol, a good friend but a bad master. Opium poppy farms can find a legitimate market once they are free of “protection” by CIA thugs.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 6, 2019 8:13 PM
Reply to  vexarb

Agreed Vex, and I have no problem with opium/heroin as medical first aid. Cannabis is better though: non-habit forming, even for chronic-pain sufferers, and non-lethal.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Sep 7, 2019 3:19 PM

As the Johnson&Johnson case in America and massive award against them for the opiod epidemic has shown they have developed potent varieties which are grown in Tasmania (Australia).

The 5+1 eyed terrorist empire ain’t planning to do without the opiod profits and destruction of nations.

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 6, 2019 2:16 PM

The Taliban was not, as the thesis of certain US strategists, a foreign bacillus moving its way through the Afghan body politic, the imposition of a global fundamentalist corporation.

Never heard of Pakistan and its ISI next door?

“The imposition of a global fundamentalist corporation” , sure Islamism is one , but Xi-China is the other one nearing Afghanistan’s roads with its (Xinjiang) belt in the hand. Both have land routes into AfPak, USmil/inc doesn’t. As Afghanistan has no sea borders only air is left over and planes need a lot of heavy fuel so totally different from Vietnam, Irak etc.

TheSpectacle
TheSpectacle
Sep 6, 2019 12:38 PM

With victory comes lots of responsibilities, that’s why the real terrorists, US + UK + Australia + Canada + France, relish in creating chaos and destruction.

War on Terror?
Major university study finds:

1. Fire Did Not Bring Down Tower 7 On 9/11

2. The collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building

https://madhousenews.com/2019/09/major-university-study-finds-fire-did-not-bring-down-tower-7-on-9-11/

ANDREW CLEMENTS
ANDREW CLEMENTS
Sep 6, 2019 5:14 PM
Reply to  TheSpectacle

Can’t wait to read about it in the corporate media