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We’re under attack

Since last Thursday – over a week ago – OffG has been under continued intermittent Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks from agents unknown.

Today around 7pm BST the attack increased in severity sharply and took the site down despite the defense measures we had in place. Since then we’ve been struggling to a) understand what type of attack it is and b) find better counter-measures.

It’s not proving easy. The loads on the server are dropping but are still high.

Until we beat this you’ll find the site is slow to load or completely unavailable.

Please bear with us during this trying time.

Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible!

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crispy
crispy
Oct 6, 2019 12:26 PM

I’m not supprised!

RobG
RobG
Oct 4, 2019 8:34 PM

I generally don’t like ‘inspirational quotes’, but this one might be sort of appropriate:

“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
John F. Kennedy

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Oct 5, 2019 6:19 AM
Reply to  RobG

So Kennedy said something that is not allowed!

If we could make a list of all the people who were silenced for walking disallowed territory …. we would have a long list, but beyond that …..???

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 7:55 PM

You’re back! How marvelous. But I can imagine what kind of nightmare such an attack by criminal idiots is. Well, what goes around, comes around – no exception ever.

Here is another link I wanted to share about the origin of the present global nastiness:

The Alliance of Resistance – to everything that is beneficial for mankind.
(From GlobalResearch)

RobG
RobG
Oct 4, 2019 10:18 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

It’s really not marvelous, because the bottom line is not people pissing around in cyberspace.

The real world is going out with pitchforks.

vexarb
vexarb
Oct 5, 2019 2:34 PM
Reply to  RobG

@RobG: “The real world is going out with pitchforks.”

Like Dr.Assad and Pres.Putin, Iran, Hezb’Allah, Yemen and the Donbas Peoples Republic, to name only the most currently active members of the Resistance. With Cuba, Venezuela and China quietly putting their money where their mouth is. And the oppressed Gilets Jaunes in banker-occupied West Europe — how long before those long suffering French people stop turning the other cheek to banker brutality, and take up their pitchforks?

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 6, 2019 3:39 AM
Reply to  RobG

I was under the impression ‘marvelous’ is a word I could use for my excitement that the site is back up. It cetainly does not apply to the prsent state of global affairs, as the link will make clear.

Secondly, I have my own experiences facing violence. Although it is a religious notion, it still makes sense to me:
He who rules by the sword, will die by the sword.

That counts for all violence in my eyes. If it can’t be avoided, because the masses will have lost it, that’s a result and reaction to the criminal activities of the criminally rich. It would be regretable, but considering what the Western regimes are doing to large numbers of innocent people in the Eastern part, it would be logical that the oppressed will release the pressure on the responsible criminals.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 4, 2019 2:20 PM

It starts with DDOS, then in another couple of years, sites likes OffG will be banned by TPTB or unreachable behind the the Great British Firewall.

mark
mark
Oct 4, 2019 1:37 PM

Probably our chums at the Ministry of Truth/ 77th Brigade doing their stuff. They have to do something with all that taxpayer’s money. We should be flattered they are targeting us rather than other truth tellers. They will probably soon be revealing the truth about Catte Black’s cannibalism and devil worshipping activities.

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Oct 5, 2019 6:23 AM
Reply to  mark

Take a look at the big round shiny building in the UK. Imagine how many people work there on the taxpayer coin. I don’t know how this can resolve. In the meantime let’s worship some tridents.

primordial
primordial
Oct 4, 2019 1:19 PM

What is the eligibility criteria for a website to become a target for cyberattacks?

Did they give any warnings?

Do they have demands?
Did they ask for something that wasn’t followed up?

Is negotiation possible with them?

Where to?
Where to?
Oct 4, 2019 1:20 PM
Reply to  primordial

Does Alexander downer work for them?

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Oct 5, 2019 6:26 AM
Reply to  Where to?

I don’t think so. Alexander will keep a very low profile after he meddled in the US elections.
Foreign meddling: One American (Papadopoulos) claims Russia has dirt on another American (Hillary Clinton).

Australian writes report about non-Australian event = foreign meddling.

primordial
primordial
Oct 4, 2019 1:02 PM

I am sure they are welcome here. Why don’t they (the cyber attackers) prove they at least part human, and join the discussion like humans, and nice animals, do.

If they have a point, why don’t they come and explain to us their superb ideas.

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Oct 4, 2019 12:20 PM

Best of luck with that, and hope you solve it. Was wondering if it was just me getting the ‘checkng your browser routine’ and ‘failure to connect to database’ message. Also, as pointed out below, some issues have come only since cutting over to the new server.

Graft
Graft
Oct 4, 2019 12:10 PM

I blame the 77th brigade of the terrorist British army

Graft
Graft
Oct 4, 2019 12:11 PM
Reply to  Graft

And/or Israel! Almost forgot the other likely suspect

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 4, 2019 2:06 PM
Reply to  Graft

Would be logical considering the amount of anti-Israel bias here, but I hope it not them. Too much fun reading both plausible AND wacko conspiracy theories here.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Oct 4, 2019 11:11 PM
Reply to  Antonym

The Braves lead the Cardinals 1-0 in the 6th. Is this good for Israel, Antonym?

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 5, 2019 2:47 AM
Reply to  George Cornell

Israel does make like easier for people like mark and others; simply everything considered negative on Earth by them is the fault of Israel. Working backward from this end conclusion usually bring trouble in the motive, opportunity and capability departments but imagination is a great help.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Oct 5, 2019 7:29 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Antonym, my point was that you see nearly everything in the context of Israel. I hope you don’t mind me saying but you are more alike those you criticize than you perhaps realize.
As a knee jerk supporter, you may be trying to balance the dialogue but would you not be more effective if you actually debated the issues which make people so negative about Israel? It is a point of view drowned out by mindless accusations of anti-semitism and Mark’s comment about the truth being anti-Semitic gains traction. Unless of course there is no rebuttal to be made and this is all you have? Yes I am trying to provoke you but don’t see it as negative. There are people who are appalled by Israel but some of those are not motivated by hatred.

mark
mark
Oct 5, 2019 3:05 PM
Reply to  George Cornell

If you want to know who rules over us, ask who you are on no account allowed to criticise.

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 6, 2019 3:02 AM
Reply to  mark

Nethanyahu couldn’t win the Israeli elections; he is still in front of an Israeli court; mark & co are still 101% anti Israel on the Net. Looks like your simple theory is flawed.
Start with this: who would benefit from marking Israel as the sole source of evil in this Galaxy?

mark
mark
Oct 6, 2019 3:27 PM
Reply to  Antonym

You get faction feuding in every evil empire. Goering, Himmler, Ribbentrop all hated each others guts. The utterly vile genocidal Zionist Regime is no different.

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 7, 2019 3:23 AM
Reply to  mark

That would be the Texa$ – $audi twins: no “Islamophobia” for oil and dollar’s sake. Bush – Bin Laden.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 4, 2019 11:49 AM

Keep fighting the good fight, Off-G.

Haltonbrat
Haltonbrat
Oct 4, 2019 11:36 AM

The cyber attack experts are in Israel. Their big problem at the moment is to stop Corbyn becoming PM.

Simon Hodges
Simon Hodges
Oct 4, 2019 10:25 AM

What is the nature of these attacks? You are running that browser checker app which suggests that they are simply thousands of url requests being made to the server from a large collection of remote ip addresses.

Simon Hodges
Simon Hodges
Oct 4, 2019 9:35 AM

One should always be sceptical about global crisis. Was the Great Financial Crisis really a crisis, or was it a mini drama turned into a crisis and for what purposes? Economic control passed directly to globally linked technocrat central bankers and as a result and we have seen austerity and over a decade of a transfer of wealth from the working and middle classes to the 0.001%. Does one suppose a technocratic ‘solution’ to a global climate crisis will be any different in terms of economic outcomes for the people? Central bankers did not solve or address the real problems of the GFC. They have in fact created an even greater existential financial crisis which is now looming. Why should we trust in the ability of climate scientists any more than economists? The record of climate predictions are equally as poor if not worse than those of economists. Science is… Read more »

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 4, 2019 9:20 AM

Surely you are a target for DDOS attacks, but also, since you “upgraded” your site there have been regular issues, and the types of issue that did not exist before.

Comments not posting and database errors are nothing to do with DDOS and I think the people who migrated the old site to the new one did a poor job, I think the database is messed up or not configured properly.

Your privacy notice at the bottom of this site also forwards to a .com address of your site, rather than .org and does not display. Check it, and you’ll see it, and it means you are not complying with GDPR. I believe this is an error symptomatic of the poor quality of the new site…hope it’s not been deliberately messed up by some developer!

There’s more issues, and that’s even before we start to worry about DDOS attacks!

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 4, 2019 2:13 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Just checked, I meant the “cookie policy” pop up, it erroneously goes to .com
The bastards could fine you massively or close you down for such a “transgression”.
Good luck sorting it out.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 5, 2019 4:14 PM

We have decided to find your curmudgeonly carping charming.

I was trying to help and provide you with feedback to the IT issues. I have an IT role myself and have been involved in WordPress setting up, including databases and comments.
I’ll say again, processing of comments on the user end is typically very slow, even before the DDoS attacks, the timer icon is visible for many seconds.

It’s OK though, I won’t provide any more feedback since you don’t want any from me. Good luck.

Jim Scott
Jim Scott
Oct 4, 2019 8:54 AM

Whoa I just had the delay device used on me after I had already connected to to OG but when I started this post. I was and still will suggest that the OG contact William Binney for advice on how to remedy and or identify the culprits.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 6, 2019 7:56 AM
Reply to  Jim Scott

Gotta’ second that, Jim, it’s all in English alright, but not a form, the royal ‘we’ can recognise, in the purity of computer code, here @OffG, apparently . . . so, your suggestion is excellent, doable and Bill is a very rational impartial mathematical genius & humanist kinda’ guy, imho: and such investigative actions will get even easier, when, legal proceedings are finished against Kim Dotcom, if anybody is still interested in ?Julian Assange and dead Seth Rich? and Ms. Ratner & a few others like Seymour Hirsch; ‘deer’ me, what a mess in the computer & media world of today, especially in Law. 😉 I posted this link before already, but almost nobody seems to be taking the Assange, Bill & Kim Dotcom connectivity seriously, presently @OffG >>> when what Kim says in the following link, with Bill Binney is simply said, ‘HUGELY’ significant . . . When listened… Read more »

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 6, 2019 12:08 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Additionally: One point of logic, Jim, given that Kim Dotcom is STILL on bail, it follows that he must be & has had to be particularly legally very cautious & very careful & extremely wary about what he has to say about Assange & Rich and much much more, in public, yet he feels compelled to speak. An OffG article on Kim’s ‘fortunes’ & fateful choices is surely worthy . . . and it would help Assange’s case, in many ways, because there is no special love lost between them and like Kim, I feel that from a media analyst’s perspective and understanding & regulating future surveillance states in Law, we all have much to learn & educate. Corporate Law Dictates, even Secret Services with Ponzi-Budget-Systems of Finance ! ? Existential ‘end times’, much to discuss with open source, after financial collapse. Major change approaches, in every sense. This very… Read more »

Yarkob
Yarkob
Oct 4, 2019 8:37 AM

the flak is always heaviest directly over the target.

OT, but speaking of being over the target, i see the historical child abuse has been called a “witch-hunt” and “none of it ever happened”

the mind boggles

BigB
BigB
Oct 4, 2019 8:23 AM

I thought as much: I keep getting a 504 message: unable to connect to database. It’s good news though: it means we are an irritant to someone somewhere. Don’t let the bastards get you down. Keep on doing what you are doing. Giving a voice to the people who don’t have a voice thanks to the likes of the bastards who are doing the attacking.

And if anyone from 77 Brigade – or whoever – is listening …it’s your future to. As they used to say in Spain: “If you tolerate this: then your children will be next”. And they will not have a voice. Or anyone to speak for them. Or a future.

[Which was also the theme of a pretty good song by the Manics]

Oliver
Oliver
Oct 4, 2019 11:41 AM
Reply to  BigB

Reasonable to assume the opposition is monitoring, compromising and creating these sort of sites. It’s not called the ‘net’ or ‘web’ for nothing. The internet was the ARPAnet. html came out of CERN, the post-war nuclear research project.

harry stotle
harry stotle
Oct 4, 2019 8:06 AM

Have you considered alerting Jeremy Cunt?

Cunt is a powerful advocate of free-speech providing that speech falls within narrow, establishment friendly parameters set by Kath Viner and other Quislings across the MSM.
https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/11/hypocrisy-taints-uks-media-freedom-conference/

Jim Scott
Jim Scott
Oct 4, 2019 8:57 AM
Reply to  harry stotle

You mean the same Jeremy Hunt who has cheered on the jailing and torture of Julian Assange.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Oct 4, 2019 12:01 PM
Reply to  harry stotle

Harry, may I suggest he be called Jeremy Rhymeswith?

MingRen21
MingRen21
Oct 5, 2019 7:23 PM
Reply to  George Cornell

Join the discussion..Jeremy near-homonym.

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Oct 4, 2019 7:57 AM

You are making waves with fine reporting, fine articles, and a very open and uncensored comment section. I know they produce a lot of hard work, but the attacks are also compliments of a sort.

Yesterday mid-afternoon UK time, a comment of mine wouldn’t post. I refreshed the page and got an error message along the lines of “Unable to connect to database”. It’s the first time I’ve seen that. I worried you had been hacked and the hacker had trashed your database. Apparently not, but it was an ominous message nonetheless. I guess the DDOS load was so great, the database connect timed out.

vexarb
vexarb
Oct 4, 2019 6:44 AM

Good on you! cobbers, you must be getting under their skin. SyrPer is likewise under attack, offline for a couple of days. Cloudflare Protection Service seems to have restored both of you, most of the time.

Neil McCormick
Neil McCormick
Oct 4, 2019 6:27 AM

Thank you for telling us this Off Guardian – I’m not very techno savvy and for the last week – including just now been getting something called CloudFlare telling me I’m being redirected and something called DDOS is giving a coded number. From here in New Zealand I read all your posts. Keep up the great service.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 4, 2019 6:20 AM

Bastards. Any site that shines a spotlight on the vast crimes of the Rogue Empire and the 0.01% parasites will be targeted. They want our dissenting voices silenced. Screw that and screw them.
Last 3-4 days, have found it literally impossible to post a comment here. Couple times have waited over 10 mins for comment to appear – and nothing.
Good luck with getting things back to normal. So much for freedom of speech.

Graft
Graft
Oct 4, 2019 12:13 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Same here couldn’t post and couldn’t comment

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 4, 2019 12:33 PM
Reply to  Graft

Yep, got pretty frustrating, and swore at my phone a number of times! Should’ve realised it was…. Them. Again.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Oct 4, 2019 2:52 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Sounds like you might possibly have something on your side too. You might want to consider to reset your phone, you never know what nasties have been installed by those with five eyes. Then, always use a reputable VPN such ProtonVPN made by the guys at CERN, or any other VPN you trust.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 4, 2019 9:40 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Thanks Frank.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 4, 2019 6:01 AM

Fight the power, Off-Graun!

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 5:50 AM

It may also be related to the Manhattan Conspiracy, about which OffGuardian has had quite a few articles. Like the ‘Moron’ one, reiterating that those who still believe the official fairy tale about the controlled demolitions being worthy of that qualifier.

Here is another gem that will make them choke. You can fool some morons for 18 years (+?), but you can’t fool intelligent people even for a short time.

Finally the truth rears its mighty head to scream – Article on Veterans Today (10-02-2019) about the Manhattan Nuclear Demolitions.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 4, 2019 8:15 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

I don’t understand what your point is nottheonly1, but this is my point if it in any way answers yours. However the buildings came down, a form of controlled demolition was used. All the talk of thermite, thermate, nanothermite, nuclear, directed energy weapons and other other means are distraction propaganda. A major type of propaganda used in the 9/11 propaganda strategy, if not the main one, is distraction. The basics of 9/11 are very simple. There were no plane crashes which by definition means: — the story of 19 terrorists is BS — the twin towers did not come down by fire — the claim that 265 died in plane crashes is false — there is no evidence that supports the remaining 2,735 people died in the buildings 9/11 was Trauma-based Mind Control Psychological Operation where the only major things that happened for real on the day were: — Destruction… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 4, 2019 9:23 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Is someone paying you to post this moonshine, Petra? Or is it just a favourite delusion of yours that dismisses objective realities with blind determination? Blends of fact with tosh – such as yours here – are worse than the official cospithirry, taken neat, at spreading smoke and confusion. (Ask old man McIlvaine whether or not his son Bobby died in the destruction of the towers; as also all the other bereaved family members who’ve fought all this time to get to the truth. Shame on you for this ‘no deaths’ nonsense!) The same goes for ‘directed energy weapons’, and also quite probably for the mini-nukes stories: smoke-blowing tosh to confuse the issue as thoroughly as possible. Anyone seeking serious clarity about what really happened in the 11/9 false-flag needs to be aware of this sustained rearguard action of the plotters to prevent the truth getting out. You have to… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 4, 2019 11:19 AM

With you now I don’t know what your point is either – in regard to DEWs anyway. That, of course, is tosh but my point is that it’s not of great significance what exactly brought the buildings down – knowing that it was controlled demolition of one kind or another is sufficient. Yes, I’m sure if I ask old man McIlvaine (a close anagram of villain as another recogniser of staged death and injury has pointed out) he’ll tell me the sob story about his son, Bobby, and with great indignation that the 9/11 Commission Report is a work of fiction. Oh yes! Of course he will because he’s a disinformation agent, and, as always, they let us know that clearly. See Point 5 https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html. While I may seem a loony on OffG I’m certainly not the only person in the world who recognises that 9/11 death and injury were… Read more »

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 6, 2019 10:21 AM

Gwilym: presuming from that, that you know that Petra is the re-invention of Flaxgirl’s trainee shaving blogspot for kids, & controlled opposition shouting “controlled opposition” (same person obviously & stylistically G’teed), I wondered over strategy in future & DR.DADE perhaps dealing with this poorly informed patient’s delusions . . . ? Maybe it’s still a little early to call DR.DADE and given the mammoth reduction in blatant trolling (thankfully), Flaxgirl is good for a laugh and a huge Peter Tosh ‘doobie’ could be recommended & would be worth consuming, before reading ‘Smoke & Mirrors from Fantasylalaland Flaxgirl’ / Petra 🙂 Back2life & back2reality, I think you’ll enjoy listening to Kim Dotcom & Bill Binney: very carefully and in its’ entirety. Kim seems keen to set the records straight, despite, being on bail ! and, as for Bill, on first learning of Bill Binney less than a couple of months ago,… Read more »

Graft
Graft
Oct 4, 2019 12:15 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Like many seeking the truth (unless you’re shilling real hard for someone) on 9/11 you are sort of near the mark and sort of waaaaaaaay off

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 1:35 PM
Reply to  Graft

Did you watche the embedded videos in the article? And if you tell me to be way off, then you are also saying that the physicists are way off. I am not a (nuclear) physicists either, but my critical thinking and knowledge of the general facts about nuclear reactions makes this explanation absolutely trustworthy. And compared with the all lies official fairy tale, it is the only explanation that makes sense and method that was indeed doable. People are generally decades behind the actual capabilities of the military/darpa projects/capabilities. Why can they still be duped into the rejection of what explains the physical laws at play on this day? And in slight alteration of an old notion about how to find out who controls you, I state here: Tell me which explanation you are ridiculed the most for and I show you what really happened. And please, do yourself (and… Read more »

Graft
Graft
Oct 5, 2019 5:07 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Israel did 9/11 not mini nukes that don’t cause radiation

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 1:16 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I always wondered how a person with no conscience would react to this FACT. Now I know. Thanks and keep up deluding yourself. It’s your life to throw away.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 5, 2019 1:50 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The trouble with coming late to 9/11 truth (2014) is that so much stuff other people worked out years and years ago gets buried – sometimes it’s actually those who support the official story who point it out, ironically (eg, this supporter of the official story points out the anomalies in William Rodriguez’s timeline https://sites.google.com/site/911stories/rodriguez%27stimelinewayoff%3F). A number of people worked out that the molten metal story was fake but it keeps getting perpetuated (thanks in large part to good ol’ Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth) but despite five years of relatively dedicated research I’ve never seen it said that it was fake. Unfortunately, most prominent truthers are seduced by what controlled opposition is telling us rather than recognising what genuine nobody researchers say. In this forum thread from 2006! people show they recognise that the molten metal story is fake https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?46566-Metal-of-Honor&s=d131b3c9e3e244dd284ece83689de38a(Editor:You are now basically citing troll sites in support… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 5, 2019 1:55 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Of course, if you took the case to court with the planes, using the Bureau of Transportation Statistics data and got an aircraft accident investigator and video expert to show the plane crashes were faked, how the buildings collapsed wouldn’t even come into it!

Much simpler, no?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 5, 2019 2:24 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

What you really have to keep in mind is: The “9/11 Truth movement”, the “loved ones”, the 9/11 Commission, the 9/11 Commission Report, the debunking of the NIST reports, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Leroy Hulsey’s study of the collapse of WTC-7, the 9/11 Lawyers’ Committee and the eventual court case were ALL PART OF THE PLAN. As if they wouldn’t be! It’s all about control of the story and when it’s all about control of the story there is absolutely no way you’d introduce a real element such as the killing of 3,000 people. The fastest way to utterly and completely relinquish control of the story and potentially expose yourself to revolutionary beheading would be to do such a crazy thing as that. So much of 9/11 is pure theatre. So much seeming tension, contradiction and fighting between parties is all completely STAGED. It’s all theatre. One example… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 5, 2019 3:01 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Oh dearie dear. You completely misinterpret what I say. There seems to be no agility in your thought, Editor. Ever since I woke up to 9/11 and then especially since waking up to controlled opposition my mind is ready to turn in an instant while I haven’t seen evidence of your mind turning once on anything. I’d dearly love to know what you feel your knowledge is of 9/11 and the last time you accommodated new information or changed your mind on anything. Is your understanding that there was controlled demolition as said by truthers and that 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured as told to us in the official story? Is that your understanding? Understanding 9/11 takes changes of thought – you certainly cannot stay fixed in your thoughts on the subject because it’s so full of twists and turns. I believed in the molten metal from pretty… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 12:59 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

(Editor:You are now basically citing troll sites in support of the official narrative. What next? ‘Popular Mechanics’ on how free fall didn’t happen?) Just noticed this editorial comment now. LOL. The funny thing is I couldn’t work out what CTer referred to and just realise now on looking again that it refers to conspiracy theorist. So these people support the official story. But as I say, those who support the official story can still point out the truth. I am not “citing” them. I am simply linking to their comments and I think their comments are sound. People who support the official story can be very good at pointing out false things said by the controlled opposition who more easily seduce truthers. Do not dismiss those who support the official story just because they support it. Judge by what they say, Editor – sometimes it’s more accurate than what truthers… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 7, 2019 12:57 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

So coming back to your editorialisation of my comment, Editor, after a few exchanges: You are unable to defend the hypothesis that molten metal was present in the rubble at the WTC, evidenced by the fact that you cannot answer these questions: 1. Is molten metal in the rubble a recognised characteristic of controlled demolition? 2. Where is any visual evidence of molten metal at the WTC? You will see on this video that I posted on my website thinking (mistakenly) it showed evidence of molten metal that one of the comments appearing in the top 10 is: TheSaint135 – Molten steel? What molten steel? Although I don’t really like it being suggested that I’m gullible (certainly have been though and will continue to be – but this is hardly surprising when you have masters of dupery fooling you) and don’t like it being said about me, “If she isn’t… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 12:05 AM

Yes, the video wasn’t claimed to be of molten metal. That would be an absurdity but, as you point out, on further research I learnt that the still from the video was said to be used by mistake by Dr Steven Jones. But you see I have a little problem with “firefighters working in the rubble with a light source” – that’s what made me realise the lie, that fakery of some kind seemed to be occurring. I cannot see any nature of “work” being done here. Perhaps you can suggest a possible type of work being done? If we consider that 9/11 was full of falsities uttered here there and everywhere, “eye-witness” testimony is not compelling evidence, is it? If there really were molten metal in the rubble I’d expect digital evidence, wouldn’t you? So I ask you: — Do you know of another instance of controlled demolition where… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 7:43 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

A possible theory is that Philip Ruvolo and workmates may well be speaking about a film that they were shown and the purpose of screening the film to them was to generate words from them about molten metal for inclusion in the “molten metal” chapter of the “9/11 story”. The guy at the end who mentions machinery could be absolutely anyone talking about anything – similarly for guy at the beginning.

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 6, 2019 3:06 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

This is why I love Off-Guardian: wacky, wackier, wackiest. The first one is “controlled demolition” of many WTC buildings in Manhattan. Petra is from the last category.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 4:07 AM
Reply to  Antonym

I have no idea what your point is, Antonym. There is no doubt whatsoever about controlled demolition. What I doubt – in fact, what I refute (only now after 4 or 5 years of believing otherwise) – is molten metal in the rubble. It was refuted at least as far back as 2006 ago by those who support the official story and in 2009 by a truther (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txk6tCZ1p6s&feature=youtu.be). I refute molten metal for the following reasons. — There is no evidence, as far as I know, saying that it is a characteristic result of controlled demolition. — There is no clear visual evidence of it at the WTC. — At least one eyewitness testimony (see comment above) about molten metal provided to us does not clearly relate to the rubble at the WTC. Words in the testimony suggest that it could relate to some other event. In any case, eyewitness… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 6, 2019 5:28 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Two simple questions:

a) What was the motive for this controlled demolition of the WTC and a part of the Pentagon?
b) The US IT community didn’t manage to keep many US governmental whistle blowers quiet, but for your controlled demolition they did a fabulous job: not plausible. https://www.whistleblower.org/timeline-us-whistleblowers/

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 6:36 AM
Reply to  Antonym

I don’t know what the motives were beyond the obvious ones – except in the case of WTC-7 where I think at least one of the motives of the collapse was to distract truthers massively with it.

I’m afraid “whistleblower” generally to me is synonymous with “disinformation agent”. If you know of any whistleblowers who say that both the buildings came down by controlled demolition and the plane crashes were faked let me know. Anyone, who is not definitive on controlled demolition and is ambivalent on the plane crashes or who declares there were any planes is either a useful idiot or controlled opposition in my book.

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 6, 2019 6:48 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Please spell out what is “obvious” about this motive: my imagination is not that fertile.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 6, 2019 9:10 AM
Reply to  Antonym

“This” motive? I’m referring to the obvious motives of invading Afghanistan and Iraq and the Patriot Act.

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 6, 2019 11:18 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The Iraq invasion needed a fake Saddam’s WMD trigger; 9/11 didn’t do the trick.
IF 9/11 was not an inside job the Patriot act can be explained as a quick and dirty band-aid for the total intelligence failure – just on the wrong place and by the same failed services.
Afghanistan was done half-heartedly: under CIA pressure the US army let the the worst guys escape by foot to Pakistan through the Adi Ghar and Tora Bora caves and by plane from Kunduz. The US is still paying that price till today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_airlift

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 6, 2019 9:36 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

‘Excellent’ fixations Flaxgirl for controlled opposition … I’m afraid Flaxgirl / Petra , that you blew your cover & blogspot to the high hell of controlled opposition, the moment you declared Bill Binney as controlled opposition, in my book … remember when you said words to the effect “Never heard of him or Parallel Platforms” ? ! Just a couple of months ago ? ! Clearly you know nothing of importance or the importance of being earnest in any Court of Law. Nobody can be so ignorant of events on 11/9/2001, WTC7, missing $$$TRILLIONS$$$ from the D.o.D. and know nothing about Binney & Wiebe, ‘ThinThread & Parallel Platforms’ and what Enron were speculating on, i.e. The Weather, unless they were controlled opposition ! And let’s be honest, Flaxgirl / Petra cannot even differentiate between a False Flag op. & a ‘Psyop’, though I have explained clearly and you choose never… Read more »

alex
alex
Oct 4, 2019 5:18 AM

mebbe your CENSORSHIP could be at the root of the ‘problem!

alex
alex
Oct 4, 2019 5:16 AM

oh yeah and just coincidentally u$a and its 2 poodles (GB&PENAL OZ) announce the demand to encryption!!!

bahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha!

Loverat
Loverat
Oct 4, 2019 4:13 AM

Like him, loathe him Churchill had a quote for most situations. The Eliot Higgins, Oliver Kamm’s and El on the wrong side of history this time around. The enemy within which needs rooting out.

Those who attack sites like this are in effect complicit in covering up state and media crimes – for which they are likely to be held legally accountable. They should think about that and the damage they are causing to the UK by escalating international conflict.

‘Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning’

Off- G – keep up the Dunkirk spirit!

Igor
Igor
Oct 4, 2019 5:38 AM
Reply to  Loverat

Dunkirk only worked, because the super evil leader Adolph H. ordered the Panzers to stand down and let the Limeys escape to fight another day.

Loverat
Loverat
Oct 4, 2019 8:15 PM
Reply to  Igor

That might be true but you can’t deny the one thing us Brits are good at is a military evacuation. Gallipoli, Dunkirk, White Helmets from Syria.
Anyway I think that Churchill quote came after El Alamein. The days when arguably our military had something to be proud of.

Nowadays our military are used by the state and media which put them and all of us at risk by their lies and escalations. The 77th brigade are in effect a bunch of traitors as they work against the interests of British people. The battle now is to defeat them.

Jihadi Colin
Jihadi Colin
Oct 4, 2019 3:48 AM

This is accompanied by formerly censorship-free sites like VK suddenly deleting dissenting voices with as specious excuses as Twitter. Is there a connection?

Terje M
Terje M
Oct 4, 2019 3:48 AM

If our governments were truly interested in protecting our freedoms and political life from interference, like they declare incessantly, stopping DdoS attacks against independent media like OffG by unknown actors should be highest on their list of priorities (sarcasm).

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Oct 4, 2019 3:18 AM

The message I’ve been getting – which oddly enough has coincided with serious difficulties accessing other sites and downloading email – is “DdOS checking by Cloudflare” – and suggestion to wait 5 seconds for it to connect. So far it has done so.
This incidentally seems to coincide also with a proliferation of agents of influence and disinformation, like a metastasizing cancer, in the msm, at least here in OZ.
Surely this means OffG is doing the right thing and attracting attention, but those who want to stop us don’t play by the rules. Otherwise Julian Assange would be a free man, and Yulia Skripal would be telling her story to the Daily Mail.
The CIA did invent the internet after all… with help from Mossad and MI6 no doubt.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 4:02 AM

Dr. Berners Lee invented the Internet on contract by the Pentagon. MI6 is a Five Eye.

Mossad is a one eye. And Quantum Mechanics is a better eye.

MOU

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Oct 4, 2019 4:15 AM

But you forgot the Two I’s:
https://ahtribune.com/world/europe/uk/integrity-initiative/2782-two-eyes-phase-ii.html
Who I think might be the problem….

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 5:02 AM

Extremely interesting link. Nice article too, David. Intelligence is fun stuff and I keep abreast of it as much as possible. You are a good lead for Oz & UK stuff. Thanks for the link and keep me posted always on Intel stuff as I’m likely on the same side as you too.

Cheers, MOU

Savorywill
Savorywill
Oct 4, 2019 3:09 AM

Seems better now. No warming about the browser checking the site for 5 seconds. It is sick how this site would get attacked, just for being a forum to allow mainstream media stories to be questioned (a good example is the ridiculous Skirpal poisoning story, which was completely ignored by mainstream media when it ran out of steam – such a ridiculous and irrational narrative, unbelievable that MSM let it pass without serious scrutiny!).

Savorywill
Savorywill
Oct 4, 2019 12:54 PM
Reply to  Savorywill

Warning about a 5 second security check of browser is back! Haven’t seen that anywhere, not even on Infowars! Why pick on OffGuardian?

Graft
Graft
Oct 5, 2019 5:12 AM
Reply to  Savorywill

Infowhores is pure Zionist propaganda! It’s never Israel in jewnes mind it’s Iran or the chi coms (Chinese communists for the uninitiated

Savorywill
Savorywill
Oct 5, 2019 8:23 AM
Reply to  Graft

I misunderstood the 5 second browser check warning, as Admin clarified what it meant (nothing nefarious, thankfully).

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 4, 2019 2:35 AM

Obviously you’re doing something right…..

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Oct 4, 2019 2:26 AM

Dissent.
It gives you a warm feeling
inside.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Oct 4, 2019 2:15 AM

One can’t help but wonder just how “routine” such government attacks is various forms are these days at progressive sites like this. I am now finding I can’t seem to post a comment at ConsortiumNews a site I’ve long followed and commented at. Is it the site suddenly censoring respectful pertinent comments, or is it other entities doing so without the site even being aware of what is happening? Difficult to know.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 2:26 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Lefties are being kettled by Psyops.

MOU

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 4, 2019 6:06 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Funny you should mention that, Gary. I had one of my (intended) comments censored over at Consortium a few days ago. I was trying to criticize Jonathan Cook’s awful article on Greta Thunberg … and my comment somehow never made it onto the site!

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Oct 5, 2019 5:28 AM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Seamus – very interesting that not only your comments, but also my two comments also critiquing “Cook’s awful article on Greta” were also what was censored. Very sad in my opinion when respectful comments written to add to the conversation are simply disappeared with no explanation. I’d like Consortium to comment on this issue, as this hasn’t been their policy in the past, and I wouldn’t automatically assume they are the culprits, as I certainly wouldn’t put it past the government’s troll boy army to be hard at work “managing” our discussions for us.

Ramdan
Ramdan
Oct 4, 2019 2:14 AM

“Let the dogs bark, Sancho. It’s a sign that we’re moving forward”
El Quijote

bevin
bevin
Oct 4, 2019 1:48 AM

Good luck

jimbo
jimbo
Oct 4, 2019 1:19 AM

For about a week now after I click on my OffGuardian preset button I get a security check and I have to click a box to show I am a human and then OG appears.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 1:19 AM

Langley USA likely thinks OFF-G is not spreading FOX News enough. They will get bored & move along to their next victim website or blog. Only the USA would be behind this to frustrate free speech on Internet.

Always remember they need you in the game otherwise there is no game at all.

MOU

Tonymike
Tonymike
Oct 4, 2019 3:06 AM

So it couldn’t be the c*nts at MI5, MI6, or the BBC? You give americans too much credit for all the disaster in the world. Why it could be the poodle boys in Paris. No insult to the poodles is meant.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 3:46 AM
Reply to  Tonymike

Langley Gomer Piles are out en masse for the USA Government push on for the election showdown of the century. The Langley Gomer Piles always flex their cyber strength when
running Information Operations on dissident websites. I was on Zero Hedge way back where they did similar stuff.

The Langley Gomer Piles leave a fingerprint when they act up for no good reason such as the recent hit on OFF-G. The European Union spooks n’ IOs are likely too busy & overworked to being playing games like the Langley Gomer Piles do.

If the Langley Gomer Piles were a Punk Rock band they would have a simple beat that would mark them out as punks.

MOU

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 1:11 AM

I am afraid this is just the beginning. There is an article on The Saker about the unintelligence agencies having outsourced their workload to corporate contractors. You can read about it here: The Terrorists Among US – The Coup Against the Presidency Much more than a description of present affairs, the article provides the BTL sentiment that without taking appropriate steps to stop this development, we are clearly done for. It goes without further explanation that the troubles at OffGuardian are related to this takeover by the unintelligence agencies. Alone to ponder about the disturbing fact that there are now in excess of four million people contracted by these regime agencies, causes permanent headshaking. And since every letter that is typed and published is recorded, it will be next to impossible to mobilize the masses to demand an immediate end to this criminal undertaking. Which makes it somewhat clear that… Read more »

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 1:27 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

The DDOS’s are a hello to OFF-G from the Gomer Piles at Langley USA. They are attempting to classically condition OFF-G to only publish USA-centric pro-script that the CIA & CENTCOM would appreciate.

The Gomer Piles at Langley are practicing for WW3 Martial Law shutdown of dissident voices and lefties.

MOU

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Oct 4, 2019 5:39 AM

You mean ‘Loonley’?

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE
Oct 4, 2019 5:51 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

Yup, Loonley.

They did the same thing to ZH back in the 2016 election for likely the same reasons.

MOU

Molloy
Molloy
Oct 4, 2019 1:53 PM
Reply to  nottheonly1

https://www.se.com/uk/en/
A regime sub-contractor. Similar employer as FCO, great at exploiting individual staff by blackmail re child abuse cover-ups. The usual empire MO.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Oct 4, 2019 1:10 AM

Now that is flattery. Must mean you are getting at the truths they are most threatened by.

Hope Kesselring
Hope Kesselring
Oct 4, 2019 12:57 AM

Somebody got their feelings hurt and it pushed them to cyber crime. Bless their heart.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 4, 2019 12:48 AM

The bastards at it again. Their day is coming.