How can the US lecture China on the rights of Muslims?
Andre Vltchek
In 2019, I wrote a long analysis about “the Uygur issue”; analysis which will be soon published as a book.
For some time, I have been warning the world that the West, and the United States in particular, are helping to radicalize the Uyghurs in Xinjiang Province and outside.
And not only that: I clearly mapped movement of the Uyghur radicals through some countries like Indonesia, towards Turkey, from where they are then injected into brutal war zones like Idlib in Syria. I worked in Idlib area, with the Syrian commanders, and I spoke at length with the Syrian internally displaced people; victims of the Uyghur genocidal attacks.
The majority of Uyghur people are Muslims. They have their own, ancient, specific culture and most of them are, of course, very decent human beings. Northwest China is their home.
The “problem” is that Urumqi, Xinjiang, are located on the main branch of BRI (The Belt and Road Initiative) – an extremely optimistic, internationalist project which is ready to connect billions of people on all continents. The BRI is infrastructural as well as cultural project, which will soon pull hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and under-development.
Washington is horrified that China is taking a lead in building a much brighter future for humanity. It is because, if China succeeds, it could be the end of Western imperialism and neo-colonialism, leading to real freedom and independence for dozens of until now suffering nations.
Therefore, Washington has decided to act, in order to preserve the status quo and its dominance over the world.
Step one: to antagonize, provoke and to smear China by all means, be it over Hong Kong, Taiwan, South China Sea or, above mentioned “Uygur Issue”.
Step two: to try to turn a part of China’s constitutionally-recognized national minority – Uyghurs – into “rebels”, or more precisely, terrorists.
Turkey, a member of NATO, offered the U.S. a helping hand. Uyghurs were flown with their families to Istanbul, with Turkish passports, through hubs in Southeast Asia. Then, their passports were confiscated in Istanbul. Many Uyghurs were recruited, trained, and then transported into war-torn Syria. Smaller group stayed in places like Indonesia, joining jihadi cadres there. When terrorist groups in Syria were almost thoroughly defeated, some Uyghurs were moved to Afghanistan, where I also used to work, and investigated.
Needless to say, Afghanistan has a short but important border with China.
Why all this complex operation?
The answer is simple: NATO/Washington/West hope that the hardened, well-trained Uyghur jihadi fighters will eventually return home to Xinjiang. There, they would start to fight for “independence”, and while doing that, they would sabotage the BRI.
This way, China would be injured, and its most powerful global project (BRI) would be disrupted.
The Chinese government is, naturally, alarmed. It is clear that the West has prepared brilliant trap:
- 1) If China does nothing, it will have to face extremely dangerous terrorist threat on its own territory (remember Soviet Union being dragged into Afghanistan, and mortally injured by Western trained, financed and supported Mujahedeen? West has long history of using Islam for its Machiavellian designs).
- 2) If China does something to protect itself, it will get attacked by the Western media and politicians. Precisely this is what is happening now.
Everything is ready, prepared.
On 12 September 2019, South China Morning Post, reported:
US Senate passes Uygur Human Rights Policy Act calling for sanctions on Chinese officials over Xinjiang camps
- Bill also urges Trump administration to prohibit export of goods and services to state agents in Chinese region where upwards of 1 million Uygurs are being held
- Beijing describes move as a ‘gross interference in China’s internal affairs’
Naturally, the so-called rights act to interfere in Xinjiang’s affairs is one great exercise in hypocrisy and intimidation.
Let us not forget that the United States is treating Muslim people with absolute spite. It even bans them from entering the country, if they happened to live in certain nations. It arbitrarily bombs them in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere, worrying nothing about the loss of civilian lives. It tortures Muslims, and it humiliates them at home and even in their own countries.
And frankly: by trying to trigger the Uyghur insurgency in China, Washington is clearly doing a great harm to the Uyghurs themselves, and actually to all people of Northwest China. It is not just wrong; the United States is committing crime against humanity.
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China is a multi-national, multi-cultural country. The Muslim culture is part of PRC’s identity. I suggest anyone who doubts that, to travel to Xi’an, one of three ancient capital cities of China.
Xi’an is where the old great Silk Road originated (ancient BRI, one could argue). Until now it is proud of its tremendous Muslim monuments, as well as of wonderful Muslim food and music. Every year, tens of millions of Chinese visitors travel to Xi’an, to understand its legacy, and enjoy its culture. The city is loved and appreciated, mainly because of its vibrant Muslim identity.
It is thorough nonsense that China is ‘anti-Muslim’. Both China (and Russia) are much more tolerant towards Islam than the West. Historically, and currently.
The same nonsense is to claim that China is building “concentration camps” in Xinjiang.
China’s position is clear: what the West describes as camps, are “vocational training centers” where “trainees” can learn Chinese and gain job skills to stop them becoming victims of “terrorism and religious extremism”.
A group of Muslim Indonesian leaders, which gained access to these so-called ‘camps’ in Xinjiang, recently told my colleague, that people who spend some time in these institutions can actually sleep at home, at night.
Hardly a Guantanamo Bay, frankly speaking.
The self-proclaimed “judge” – the United States – has hundreds of high-security prisons, scattered all over the country. It is well known fact that throwing often innocent people to jail is big (privatized) business there, already for long decades.
Millions of people are locked in for nothing. How can a country with one of the greatest number of prisoners on earth (on per capita bases) dare to preach anyone about justice? It is actually a great mystery.
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What is the true purpose of such acts?
The answer is easy to define: It is that the determined unwillingness of the U.S. to share influence on the world, with other, much more humanistic countries, such as China; it is its unwillingness to compete, on the basis of great ideas and goodwill.
The more nihilist the U.S. foreign policy becomes, the more it accuses others of ‘murder’.
The way things function is simple: Washington creates some terrible conflict, somewhere. When the victim-country tries to resolve the conflict, and so-to speak ‘extinguish fire’, it is accused of ‘violating rights’ and gets slammed by sanctions.
All this has to stop, at some point, soon. This policy of Washington turns millions of human lives into agony.
An abridged version of this article was originally posted in the China Daily
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“It is well known fact that throwing often innocent people to jail is big (privatized) business there, already for long decades”
Yes, the collusion between certain judges and the Security-Industrial-Complex in the US is an open secret. Add to this, Privatised security firms do lobby the government for increased jail sentences for petty crimes or trumped-up charges.
What we have been witnessing for some time now is the collapse of the Rule of Law and Due Process in the US and throughout its various satellites and satrapies.
These were things that always existed more in theory than practice, but all pretence of civilised standards and international law has now been abandoned.
The examples are legion.
The ICC was threatened with military action by the Trump Regime if it examined the war crimes and human rights abuses of the US or Israel. The rest of the planet is just expected to grant them immunity from any procedures that apply to the rest of humanity.
The US claims the right to enforce its foreign policy and domestic regulations universally.
So it orders Canada to arrest a Huawei executive on trumped up and unspecified secret sanctions charges laid in a secret court, as part of its campaign to suppress foreign competition and its hybrid wars against both China and Iran. Trump stated that this would be used as “leverage” in the trade dispute with China. The arrogance and impudence is breathtaking. It is as though China or Russia had ordered the arrest of Gates, Bezos or Zuckerberg when they were travelling in a third country like The Philippines.
Other Russian and Chinese nationals have essentially been kidnapped and freighted off to the US Gulag for years and decades. There was the alleged arms dealer Boot. Nor do these persons need to be prominent individuals, as was shown by the Butinova case. Any Russian or Chinese business executive or ordinary person travelling abroad is liable to be seized as a hostage. Iranians are being held for protracted periods without charge or trial throughout the world in countries like Australia at US behest, some of them women, at least one of them pregnant. We have seen the same in the UK with the seizure of an Iranian tanker and its crew on US orders. It is only a matter of time before this provokes retaliation in kind.
Nor is this kind of lawlessness restricted to those countries in the Neocon crosshairs. Presumably German and European nationals with some involvement in the Nordstream Project could experience similar treatment in future.
Sweden and Britain have been willing US accomplices in the travesty of a legal process against Assange.
Torture has been legitimised in the US, Israel and the UK, and is now standard practice. The torturers are protected and rewarded. Those who reveal the truth about torture are themselves tortured and thrown into dungeons for decades.
The Impeachment Kangaroo Court against Trump, based on third hand gossip from his most rabid opponents, is but one further example. Whilst it is difficult to feel a great deal of sympathy for Trump, what is important is the collapse of all standards and institutions.
There are no rules any more. The law of the jungle. Might is right, without anyone even pretending otherwise. The judicial systems of the US and its satellites transformed into corrupt, politicised organs of persecution and intimidation.
But watch the reactions when you state that the U.S. is a fascist military dictatorship – its regime with a self-aggrandizing, intellectual amoeba for a spokesperson.
It is the cocksure that are hit the hardest when their bubble burst as they are carted away.
‘Deep State’ is actually ‘Sub-State’ – a sub world of murderous and mal-intending tax payer paid people, justifying their activities with the lamest of all excuses – ‘National Security’ and ‘law’ enforcement, while it is them, that endanger the continuance of the American Society and deem themselves above any law.
You express it uncompromisingly, but that’s about right. It’s not ‘us & them’ though. Most participants, above & below the line of overt governance, believe in what they are doing. Most, of course, are doing nothing & saying nothing until they are, as you put it, ‘carted away’. We must all try to understand that the state & its reasoning (you say ‘excuses’) is no friend of the individual, nor of groups it might perceive as threatening. This broad problem – of the relationship between individual, community, nation & state – is where our intellectual effort must be applied. In US, it’s what the founders tried to do in the Constitution & Declaration, but failed to resolve as we’ve seen throughout its history – slavery for instance – & as we see today. US desire achieve ‘democracy’ may one day be realised. Not yet.
Paul, that’s a fair commentary. It generously omits entire areas of current & historical US outlawry. Ever since my own government required me to register for conscription into its military for potential ‘service’ in Vietnam, I’ve understood clearly that the state is definitely not your friend. It generally fulfill its minimal obligations toward residents, ‘though with increasing parsimony & callousness, but if you are perceived as a threat, individually or severally, you will be removed.
Assange is an obvious example. The US & its clients states see his professional commitment as a threat. They have determined to kill him & they will. A century from now he will be afforded the respect given to an Ida B Wells or Walter Lippman, even Nelson Mandela.
Fun quotation from the American satirist H L Mencken in A.C.Grayling, Democracy & Its Crises): ‘Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance’.
Thanks Paul for the thoughtful comment.
There are rules!
But they are applied religiously agaisnt the weak, unaware and disadvantaged. To show the evilness of the new rulers, the unaware is deliberately made unaware and the disadvataged is deliberately made disadvantaged by intricate sets of laws and social engineering.
At least African countries are starting to tell the ICC to take a running jump now.
They see it for what it is – a kangaroo court to bitch slap cheeky darkies who get out of line.
Paul, I disagree. By accepting the authority of ICC & other international governance structures, Africans & other victims of colonial exploitation can show that they are better than their former overlords, notably US which refuses to be governed by anyone but its own plutarchy. Where African leaders have behaved criminally (sometimes with US support) they should face international law in the same way as their peers.
If you listen to the senior officials of ICC, it is certainly not a ‘kangaroo court’ (I am an Australian so always get a laugh from that term). I certainly do not endorse racists treatment of Africans, or anyone else. If you are seriously interested, please have a look at my most recent writing on Africa: https://medium.com/@wombat060152/oman-ghana-baako-africa-diaspora-msmes-investment-summit-excellence-awards-2019-60cc93804c94?source=friends_link&sk=1e38845c40abe694f9b5d3da4120fc80
Corrupt and criminal Africans should be dealt with domestically, not in a western kangaroo court. Where there are problems with that, a trial can take place in a more stable neighbouring country.
Playing by somebody else’s rules in a rigged game is a fool’s errand. The ICC, ECHR, IAEA, OPCW, WADA and the like should be treated as what they are – irredeemably corrupt and hopelessly compromised tools of global corporate interests.
“All this has to stop, at some point, soon. This policy of Washington turns millions of human lives into agony.”
All this has to stop, damage has to be assessed and quatified and most importantly FAIR and JUST RESTITUTION must be paid to all victims of US overt and covert operations overseas.
Courts must be established in every country on this planet to achieve just that. Restitution must also cover the cost of all these courts.
Well yes Page,but just how do you propose we go about doing it?
Ideas for the Public Domain:
It starts with creating a repository that consolidates all the evidence of criminality by the US and their colonialist friends in every corner of the planet. This wikistyle listing would be out in the open for every person in the whole world a) to see b) to add to it c) to provide further evidence of criminality d) and experts can determine what is beyond-doubt guilt e) experts can determine the monetary value of the damage, including environmental and psychological damage
This listing, or links to the materials, must have have full govenmental protection from sabotage and [from] vested interests, and must be kept published permanently and prominently, indefinitely.
Mandatory that every single publication, in every country affected by US crimes, carries the listing and/or links to the listing, permanently and prominently.
The critical part of this listing is the space allocated to the US and their allies to show the progress in remedying, repairing, rebuilding or compensating the corresponding damage that they previously inflicted on their victims.
The US and allies can pretend to ignore the courts. They cannot ignore evidence when ‘Made in USA’ is attached to every crime.
It’s not just Washington. Those exercising political power, always in their own & their polity’s interest, have always inflicted dispossession, control, destruction, misery & death on their ‘strategic adversaries’. As war has become industrialised & then urbanised, victims are increasingly civilian rather than military. (I’ve seen figures giving WW1 civilian casualties at 11% of total; Vietnam was already majority civilian; Syria almost totally so.) Victors have never, & will never, pay fair & just restitution. No such courts will ever have power. No ‘victor’ would submit to them, nor even allow them to be established. (It’s no coincidence that US denies ICC authority.)
The state is not your friend. No state: not the ‘enemy’ nor your own. You just have to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time, which is, of course, why refugees eventually leave behind their homes & the graves of their ancestors.
“It’s no coincidence that US denies ICC authority”
So, the US claim immunity from prosecution?
This cements their status as terrorists, doesn’t it? Shouldn’t they be treated as such? Their envoys, diplomats, soldiers, businesses and citizens need to be made aware of this reality and should be treated according to how much support they give to state-sponsored terrorism.
Stating the obvious is necessary and so using direct language.
Yes Page, that’s correct. US does not recognise the authority of ICC & has passed legislation protecting its military & civilian office holders, even obliging ‘allies’ to do the same. For instance, Pinochet was arrested in Britain; no US official could have been (at least, not for referral to ICC).
US ‘envoys, diplomats, soldiers, businesses & citizens’ are generally aware of it. This is not a matter of governing elites exempting themselves alone; it is a case of US exceptionalism that permeates their culture.
I would not say that it makes anyone a terrorist. It simply means that if US functionaries, from grunt soldiers with boots on the ground all the way up to the President, commit crimes, they cannot be prosecuted except by US courts (which, in many cases, won’t happen for domestic political reasons; an impeached Trump will not be prosecuted by the Senate for instance).
This posture toward US privilege with respect to international law (or simply disregard of it) is key to understanding their determination to kill Assange. He & his organisation published material (US material mainly!!!) that exposed US criminality. They will never accept that.
How the tight relation between US billionaires and communist China started: in 1971 president Richard Nixon had to abolish the US dollar gold standard. This financial wobble send Henry Kissinger to China immediately for a new profit frontier. Claiming to create a counter to the USSR was a good cover. Western plebs got cheap consumer goods while the Chinese got their jobs – for much lower wages.
Today Mike Bloomberg, HRC etc. want to keep the (US & Chinese) billionaires profits continuing by going against Trump’s upset the of rogue capitalism apple cart.
Cause and effect:
By 1966, non-US central banks held $14 billion, while the United States had only $13.2 billion in gold reserve.
Feb 1st 1969: President Nixon writes, “I think we should give every encouragement to the attitude that this Administration is ‘exploring possibilities of raprochement with the Chinese.’
1971:
May: West Germany left the Bretton Woods system, unwilling to revalue the Deutsche Mark.
June 10th : the US ends its trade embargo of China
July 9-11: Kissinger visits Beijing
July 15th: Nixon announces his China trip for 1972
August 15th: Nixon ends the Bretton Woods gold standard
This is a very narrow conception of foreign policy, even by current US standards. It’s a bit like saying the US had to go to the moon due to a shortage of cheese.
Obviously you believe this. I find it unconvincing, even after reading your time sequence below. I see neither cause nor effect in it.
For instance, Nixon’s statement about raprochement with the Chinese could, & I believe did, have other motivations. Placing it in a time sequence cannot implicate it in an implied causal chain. Similarly, West Germany’s slightly earlier abandonment of the gold standard was no doubt a response to similar pressures, but not a causal link in this chain leading to ‘rogue capitalism’.
It does not matter who is right about this anyway. The problem of how to achieve & maintain the most efficient distribution of profit shares in an economy, even if you can agree on social, economic & environmental objectives, will always remain. It’s ultimately what politics is about.
Exactly right. There was a short border war between Russia and China in 1967. Nixon was just playing the old game of divide and rule. His prime concern at the time was extricating himself from Vietnam.
Trade, gold, outsourcing manufacturing, was not even a minor factor in these decisions.
These things only began to happen 20 years later after the collapse of communism when China became more capitalist than the US.
It could be said that the Chinese outsmarted the US. Thanks to the USSR they could see their future if they continued to be walled off from the rest of the world with their own Bamboo Curtain (anyone remember that term?). So they played the West’s game, making economic development a priority. We in the West just saw a traditional colonial vassal state — a source of raw materials and cheap labor with a market for finished goods, potential help with extrication from Vietnam, a counter to the USSR, what’s not to like?
The result today is that China can look us in the eye as an equal. We don’t like it because we can’t carry on economic warfare against them to bring them into line (our attempts with the trade war are a bit lame, they’re doing us more damage than them, and our attempts to stifle their industry with technology export controls are also doomed since they’ve passed the critical mass where they really don’t need us). They’re in a strong trading position with ‘the rest of the world’ because they offer everything from pots and pans through heavy machinery and advanced technology to a trading partner. They also offer the implied subtext for the post-colonial world that as a once prostrate vassal state who managed to break free they can, too (which is why we’re really worried about the Belt and Road Initiative and will do anything to undermine it).
Politics aside, as someone who just wants the world to break out of its mire and achieve its true potential I can’t see anything not to like with this. I’m not Chinese or even particularly “pro-China” but I do think they’re doing the right thing so it might be to our advantage to learn from them.
I wish I could use my own icon. No matter.
As for argie-bargie about whether China, US or some other contender is worse, my own view is that we should all get over the idea that ANY nation state can ever be our friend. All exist to serve one or other class of interests in which most of us do not participate.
The article is right about some things that are relevant:
– US does have more than 2 million of its own ‘citizens’ in prisons, just about double the number of Uighurs encamped.
– Those in US are certainly involuntary & their conditions not enviable (I’ve been in prison myself).
– US prisoners are strongly selected by colour (‘race’ if you subscribe to that construct).
Additionally:
– US incarceration rates are about double Russia’s (relative), while it’s military spending is 10 times greater (absolute).
– if you’re looking for risk of violence to your person, US is where you’d go, not China, Russia or almost anywhere else. US gun death rates are 13 times Australia’s, for instance.
– both China & Russia mainly confine their meddling (which I am NOT supporting) to areas within or contigous to their own borders, depending upon how you define them. US builds bases & attempts (& usually fails) regime change all over the planet.
– US ‘concerns’ about Chinese influence are hilarious, in light of their century of dominant soft influence via Hollywood & all other forms of media, including social media platforms that have all, until recently, been US based.
– US coerces ‘allies’ to implement its policies by bullying (what in industrial practice would be called secondary boycotts & are illegal), notably via threatened & actual trade & financial boycotts.
I’m no enemy of US in particular. Much good has come from it. Hegemony is like that. The British gave us railways for instance (‘though we all paid heavily for such largesse). It’s just that US exceptionalism (like the British before it) is puerile & offensive. They’re just like any other rooster when crowing, & again when challenged. Their time is passing, as did the British; like the British it will take them decades to notice that the music has stopped & there are not enough chairs (for UK that took from 1914-1918 which broke them ’til Suez 1956 when the lights finally came back on).
Please, just remember: no nation state can be your friend. If you are lucky, they will not get you killed.
“China is taking a lead in building a much brighter future for humanity.”
I had to wait 11 minutes, just to stop laughing.
Did u read this before you wrote it?
Yeah mass imprisonment without lawyers or due cause, burning down churches, a populous that is literally terrified to even think about politics, let alone discuss it openly. Banning tens of millions of your citizens from travel, with no legal recourse or convictions. Oh yeah, lets not forget the social credit system that is literally the diametric opposite of humanity itself.
The bunch of billionaires (109 to be exact) that are the Chinese parliament are more akin to the Fourth Reich.
If you think that the death of individualism is a great thing, move to China.
You can still appreciate all the shortcomings and atrocities of America while still being aware that China is on another level of dehumanization.
Mass imprisonment – 2.3 million in US, mainly young black men, 98% of whom never had a trial.
Lawyers and due cause.
Institutionalised torture.
Extra judicial killings across the planet.
Ever heard of Bagram? Or Abu Ghraib? Or Guantanamo?
All made in the United States Of Torture.
Just spew out garbage from the NED hymn sheet against the Neocon Target Du Jour.
The USA and China have one thing in common: both are run by billionaires who have made their money by rigging the system and ripping off the slaves: Wall St in the USA, the Politburo in China.
All the players are billionaires – even the politicians in China, such as Xi, who have never worked outside of politics.
Politics is old hat, the new world will be run by faceless companies in secret, such as in Davos, and the people will be seen as a huge global resource to be used. Marxism or democracy won’t matter, as long as the slaves are under control. That takes different styles of government in the west versus the east.
Why do you think the US congress is playing the fool at the moment, because it knows it is not in control of anything that matters, whatever it does doesn’t matter.
At last somebody says the obvious. This is the most hilarious piece of propaganda since the last time he was published. This writer is nothing for but an apologist for the Beijing regime, I guess he is on their payroll. He seems to think that the Hong Kong people (who voted 18 out of 19 districts for democracy) are under the direction of the CIA. There are enough witnesses describing the appalling treatment of Uyghurs that he whitewashes. Just remember, China has law, but no rule of law.
When you see his name over an article, just move on.
Chemtrails must be working a treat where you live.
By the way, Julian Assange is right at this minute dying in Belmarsh Prison in south east London.
I have to ask the obvious question: what has my country become?
A bunch of spives, lunatics and criminal psychos are now in control.
Craig Murray is now talking about ‘trans-gender issues’…
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/12/the-difficulty-of-gender-issues/
How fecking mad does this have to get before you realise that you are living in a police state?!
The election was stolen. That much is blatently obvious.
(sorry, Andre, to interrupt your very well written piece)
Interesting that Washington DC chooses to demonise the Chinese by insinuating that Beijing runs a network of concentration camps preying on a minority religion and ethnic group.
It’s as if the Americans deny the existence of their own gulag networks by psychologically projecting their guilt onto others, as they have done in the past.
And of course this raises the spectre of past genocides, beginning with the British incarceration of Boer people in camps in southern Africa in the 1890s, the German deportation of Herero people into the Kalahari desert (where they perished) in the first decade of the 1900s and the later Ottoman deportations and genocides of Christian groups into the Syrian desert during World War I, all of which were the prototypes for later and larger mass deportations, incarcerations and massacres.
I think it pays to be wary of these large round numbers that are touted around, whether it’s “one million” or “six million.”
When Ceaucescu was overthrown in Romania in 1989, it was stated and regularly repeated that “60,000” had been killed. The true figure was later found to be about 800.
This “one million in concentration camps” comes from the same people who brought us Iraq WMD, Iran WMD, Syrian Gas Hoaxes, Skripal, Russiagate, the Kosovo Genocide, Gaddafi’s Viagra fuelled black rapists, and much else besides.
The dying days of the US Empire get more and more boring.
Howabout we build a new society, folks!
More and more dangerous. A pack of rabid rats.
Someone wrote that on MSM you always see the same reeducation camp with 2500 inmates. That leaves 997500 prisoners. If we assume that every other reeducation camp has the same number of prisoners, there should be 399 more of these camps. A considerable number. Where are they?The MSM never presented any satellite images. They can’t all be hidden, can they?,
There is some satellite imagery here:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/satellite-images-expose-chinas-network-of-re-education-camps/10432924?pfmredir=sm
I noticed a couple of the images show these poor ‘prisoners’ have access to a full sized athletics/soccer field. Being waterboarded or having a bit of kick of the ball…
…it’s roughly equivalent right?
And what about those cocksuckers around the globe that warn of the dangers of Islam day in day out. It’s such an amazing coincidence that all the peaceful Muslims happened to be in a Chinese province while all the violent terrorist types are everywhere but there.
First, sorry I voted you down. I meant to tap the reply button. And thanks for the link.
Abu Zubaydah was tortured 83 times in US concentration camps.
Not including daily torture over a period of years, being confined inside tiny wooden boxes smaller than coffins, and the whole repertoire of medieval torture chambers.
Another unfortunate was stripped naked in a freezing cell and chained to a wall in a standing position.
He was just left until somebody eventually noticed 17 days later that he was dead.
Sexual perversion and degradation was routinely inflicted on these people, the product of sick and diseased minds from a very sick and diseased society.
Our US friends still maintain a global gulag of concentration camps, secret prisons and torture chambers in a score of countries (including UK territory) where thousands of people have been tortured and murdered on an industrial scale. Most of them from moslem countries. And the UK is fully complicit in the crimes that have been committed and which are still being committed.
We will never know the full truth about these atrocities committed by concentration camp commanders like Haspel because the evidence has now been destroyed to protect the guilty. Those who reveal the truth about these crimes, like Assange, Kyriakou, Manning and Snowden, are ruthlessly persecuted and themselves threatened with torture and murder.
The US and its UK and Israeli chums are the leading torture states on the planet.
Torture has been legitimised and institutionalised.
The Orange Baboon in the White House is an enthusiastic advocate of his Big, Beautiful Torture. Can’t get enough of it.
Wait, China doesn’t torture? Good news?
Certainly not as much as Israel, where torture, like racism, has been institutionalised in law.
We need a Plan B.
Never in a million years are we going to get the general public to read an excellent article like this one.
They just don’t have the mental energy.
Isn’t THAT really our problem?
Yup the two party parliamentry system is dangerously out of control.
I blame the treasonous LibDems of 2010 for failing to deliver that – which would have put us on a road to a more fairly constructed government- like Germany.
Should be the No 1 priority that will speak to all peoples – that every vote COUNTS.
Muslims and Christians combined constitute less than 5% of the Chinese population, so their voice is about as loud as a goose fart on a foggy day.
Xi’an is a wonderful city, but the mostly Chinese tourists are there for the terra-cotta warriors.
The Muslim voice there is minuscule because the Chinese state, MSM and blogs don’t have to support the Arab-Anglo oil dollar. About the opposite of the EU and the US.
And in the UK, we have Eric Pickles lecturing us all about darling Israel and saying BDS will be criminalised.
Of course, he will not be criminalising falsification of intelligence to justify mass genocide of innocent civilians from Afghanistan through Iraq to Libya and Syria, because no human in the Middle East outside Israel has any value. Unlike a grossly obese Zionist who needs to leave UK politics as his priorities are not in the right place….
Personally I would call for the death sentence for 1 million UK warmongers, absolutely including all family members of every single MP who voted for those wars; -of the top 200 intelligence officials, the top 200 MOD/FCO civil servants and all the ignorant wastrels in the overpaid hierarchy and underequipped active armed forces.
But mass genocide is just one of those things, because we vote every five years.
Fine: next people to bomb are Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Brunei and the European Commission. Oh, and that undemocratic Boliviian President whose 5% share of the poll mandates sucking up to Israel like a prize call girl. Bomb the heck out of her: her sole role in democracy is organising new elections, she has no right to implement any policy whatever….
None of those rulers are democratic, so bomb the hell out of all of them, please.
It is called ‘spreading democracy….’
And certainly have a debate about how ‘democratic’ US politics is, because from where I stand, no vote ever affects US genocidal foreign policy….
But we’re ‘Muricans!
We’re exceptional!!
We’re indispensable!!!
The sun shines out of our a***holes!!!!
Timely publishing of Vltchek’s piece Off-G! As i wanted to comment along these lines.
It almost seems counterpointed in the sense that it is raising the profile of the coming (Cumming?) WAR in far away places we haven’t heard of and where our body bags will start arriving from.
That is the concise comment – now the contextual ones…
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What happened in this country last week is exactly analagous to what happened in WW1/WW2…every fucking war ever! including the Brexit referendum!
The posters proclaiming ‘your country needs you’ ; ‘the Huns are coming!’ ; ‘The Enemy Within’ would be put up. The propagandists lined up to dragoon the canon fodder.
This time it was not just the Huns it was a personal demonisation of Corbyn and the crassest of old fashioned RACISM against the likes of Abbot – we didn’t see posters and graffiti – it was done using the most advanced tech and communications on the planet – via Facebook and individual targeting of these adverts.
The personality cults of the modern Churchill , Bozo and of the modern Mossleysites, Cummings and Yaxley-Lennon’s – ‘Tommy’ army with their ‘uniforms de jour’ the fashionista/ Proud Boys look ain’t fooling all of us. This time the anti democrat stormtroopers come wearing smart casual Hackett – the new Hugo Boss!
It is highly likely this parliament will NOT survive long. It ONLY exists and was criminally created to deliver the HARD brexit. It will be transmuted into a GNU of the planned WAR, that Andre harbingers.
Expelling all democrats and criminalising dissent – Corbyn will soon be free to do what he knows best – Stop the War – the fight for democracy, peace and equality will return to where it wins and changes the country – the streets!
Unfettered and much better know Jezza and the Stop The War coalition will be the natural government against the ‘Vichy’ mutant Tory coalition of the Empire. They may be imprisoned but many many millions will take the streets.
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EVERYWHERE ELSE
The City and its 5+1 eyed Empire has been forced into survival mode. From fair play and level playing field by being members of the EU; and from it’s centuries long colonialism and plunder by the emergence of the Eurasian trading and security block – now backed with the industrial might of China and the Strategic weapons development capabilities and reslience of Russia.
We once once will rely on Putin & country. To preserve the legacy and sacrifice of it’s 30 MILLIONS dead to save Europe from the corporate fascism and nazi proxy enforcers.
The coming together of the EU and the EAEU is the end of Empire for the 5+1 eyed gollum.
It will destroy the Naval forces and shoot down most of the planes and missiles with hypersonic weapons. The Empire knows this.
The Empire is only doing what it has always done when threatened or expanding – start a WAR.
The aristos of Empire and theit monions will then retreat to their White supremacist wildernesses of US/Canada/NZ/Oz and lay claim to the last unclaimed territories- Space! – yup they really are that insane! Where they will safely watch their version of ‘burning Atlanta’.
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RUMOURS OF WAR
Mesopotamia and Cenral Asia, here we come -again! Sorry for the bloodshed but we will be spilling plenty of our own and proxy Uighurs too. We voted for it!
The propaganda machine is oiled and whirring now to get the boots on the ground and once more send our youth to foreign shores to do or die – Fuking and Cuntery.
Quite right DunG – enough of this defeatist pish. Always recall that the enemy’s power lies in illusion. Also – it’s nice to take a look around outside this phoney UK election. Stop getting so bogged down in what Pete Townshend so rightly called ‘this poxy little shit-stained island’.
Gitmo vs Xinjiang camps. Hmm…the hypocrisy is amazing,
Merry Christmas…
Support To Resistance (STR) is a US foreign policy doctrine used to disrupt any nation the Americans and their so-called allies don’t like.
Uyghurs as well Hong Kong protestors failed miserably at learning the lessons from Tibet, where the chief aim of all the propaganda, political and military aid, was solely to ‘BLEED’ the Beijing government. Another aim was to let Chinese and Tibetans kill each others. Tibet is just one case among many many more cases across the globe where the US implemented their STR routines effectively.
That what makes the US congress rejoice. This is Nirvana for the murderers, who call themselves ‘Exceptionals’, in the US!
It is worth mentioning that the all the claims of ‘1 million Uighurs in concentration camps’ can all be traced back to CIA sources.
There are two main sources.
-one is a guy an expert named Adrian Zenz, with an online degree from Columbia International University, a bible school in South Carolina (wich media on purpose confuses or let the readers confuse with the prestigious Columbia University in NY). He used ‘open source’ research, a method we all know well from Bellingcat. (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Adrian_Zenz)
-The other main source, Network of Chinese Human Rights Defender, is financed to the hilt by the US government (NED). It came to a similar conclusion USING A SAMPLE OF 8 INTERVIEWEES and extrapolating the numbers. (https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghurs-other-ethnic-minorities-forced-into-re-education-programs/)
SOAS in London is all over it too – has been since the summer, building the Save the Uighur’s narrative.
There is now a CIA Radio Free Uighur as well.
And see the odious David Frum, scheming weasel of the neocon set on the Uighurs.
Somone needs to state what now-has-become obvious. Is the Communist Party of China aware of how to earn:
Easy! no problem, let the communist leadership in Beijing bomb Xinjiang, civilians and infrastructure and all, with mostly US made bombs,napalm and depleted uranium. Beijing can have a package deal that would include UK expertise in massacring poor people together with lethality enhancing Australian components. Israel can offer the technology to track humans escaping on foot, in poor visibility, from airstrikes.
And you would have, as a result, an immediate reversal of all Western media hositility against China. Yes, reversal of hostilities, but for how long? Probably the bombing needs to be repeated every year or so.
How can China lecture India on the rights of Muslims:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/un-security-council-to-meet-on-kashmir-on-tuesday-at-chinas-request/article30326461.ece
Imagine that dummy Pandit Nehru helped China in its UN security council seat long ago without managing one for his own nation!
P.S.: the “Hindu” newspaper is now actually quite anti Hindu and pro communist, so they love this stuff.
Blaming India, its elected government or their Hindus for giving Muslims less rights is de rigueur too at the Guardian – of the Angloil Establishment –> Arab oil a$ dollar $upport.
Actually Muslims in India got more rights than Hindus from endless Congress governments: they run their own mosques – Hindu temples are state run!; they can establish their own schools and colleges – Hindus are not allowed; they can have 4 wives legally – Hindus not. https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/how-hindu-rights-have-been-seriously-damaged-by-article-30-and-rte-act
Never read such a sorry, self-pitying load of cobblers in my life.
Strange as it sounds, these are verifiable facts. Indian Congress has never been pro Hindu majority, it went for divide and concur just like the colonial Brits.
Ever seen M. Gandhi or P. Nehru visiting any temple?
A bit like Corbyn, Macron or Merkel not caring about their own white under class over immigrants. That’s why India has Modi, the US Trump and the UK now Johnson.
In India discriminating the majority was even formalized into laws by Fabian champagne socialist Nehru.
Beginning to feel sorry I hounded Norman Pilon off Off-Guardian.org by repeatedly hitting him with that NYT op-ed by Yassin al-Haj Saleh (in which the Syrian activist admitted to living with the White Helmets in East Ghouta during 2013) because now we have to put up with a troll who is becoming increasingly demented in his/her fervour in pursuing an anti-Islamic agenda.
Next thing you know, Antonym will be claiming that governments discriminate against the rich people by providing soup kitchens for the homeless and the poor who should be thrown into debtors’ prisons instead.
I did.
Read any one of his posts.
Are you channeling Bob Blackman/Pritti Patel and their xenophobic anti Corbyn missive to the Hindu voters last few weeks?
Last days of Empire – enjoy the Downfall, find your bunkers.
Bloody right Ant, bloody Muslims bloody feckin’ Arabs bloody – come over here takin’ our jobs bloody feckin’ feckin’ bloody …..
I should think that Article 30 is in the Indian Constitution as part of the original project of Indian democracy to give equal rights and responsibilities to all people, irrespective of their religion and ethnicity, and to allow them to establish educational institutions of their choice so they can instruct children in their religion and their languages. The Article helps to guarantee the right of Indian citizens to an education in the languages and communities they have been born into and helps ensure that every community in India is on a level playing field so that members are not at a disadvantage when they participate in public life.
Historically the majority of Muslims in India have been poor, especially in northern India (less so in southern India or coastal parts where traders brought Islam), often because their forebears originally came from the lower levels of Hindu caste society and were attracted to a religion in which there was no hierarchy and no class discrimination, and which promised social justice.
The original intent of Article 30 and various other articles in Part III in the Indian Constitution is to support and protect the civil rights of all Indian citizens, including those citizens vulnerable to exploitation, discrimination and harassment (including violence) by a majority group.
Trust Antonym to fall for an ultra-nationalist Hindu source in pursuing an anti-Muslim agenda.
Trust Jen to stand up for Islam which would lock her up in purdah in an eye blink.
Muslims are till today under-educated only because they send their kids to Madrassas to learn the Koran by heart in a foreign language they don’t even understand with corporal punishment as motivation.
Indian Muslims today are on average richer than other Indians: they easily get jobs in the rich Gulf states. Just drive around in Kerala and see the sizes of house and cars or Muslims.
What is there ultra in letting the majority of a country have the same rights as its minorities? For ultra visit Pakistan at your own peril.
If you like Pandit Nehru’s article 30 implement it in the UK: Madrassas and Catholic schools all around while CoE schools are forbidden.
Well, who are you folks gonna believe, me or Antonym?
From International Business Times (2013):
I believe my own eyes, plus my brain, not some foreign Muslim visiting scholar. I have seen many fancy Muslim houses in 2019 in the South . In West Bangal many Muslims are illegal economic immigrants received happily as voters during the CPI(M) and now regional TMC government. The BJP wants to send them back to Bangladesh, rightly so: sheikh Hasina wants them back.
Muslim girls are obviously early drop outs as their culture promotes purdah. For boys normal education is seen as secondary to religious education, so you get what you wish for. Halting work regularly to pray doesn’t suit a number of jobs too.
Sorry, I don’t comply with the Arab-Anglo oil dollar cartel that diplays Muslims as eternal victims while actually being frequently violent non integrators – as per Koran 7th century frozen ideology.
These illegal Muslim immigrants were burning trains and uprooting railway tracks last week in West Bengal India. Looked quite organized seeing many same crowbars. Who calls that normal protest? https://twitter.com/IPF_ORG/status/1206542532273786880
Well no-one here is in any dispute with you that you want to believe your own addled brain. 🙂
Under educated because all they do is rote learn religious texts.
Sounds like all those orthodox Jews.
Should get on well with one other.
A Guardian editorial defends Muslim protesters in India against Modi’s citizenship law: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/17/the-guardian-view-on-modis-citizenship-law-dangerous-for-all
His Master’s Anglo-Arab oil dollar’s Voice in action again.
Islam is protected state religion in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh; dwindling persecuted non-Muslim minorities there live in fear. Modi’s new law want to give India citizenship to these minorities if they migrate. Not to the safe Muslim majorities there obviously.
Against this some Islamists and their enablers were protesting in a few places India: nonsense as all Indian Muslims are Indians and that law doesn’t affect them, it is only for some foreigners. But anything to smear PM Modi: he even included Christians but some blind students in Chennai’s Christian Loyola college protested.
Manipulated fake news production based on fake facts.
The ubiquitous Stars and Stripes.
As ubiquitous as Coca Cola and McDonalds.
And just as toxic for those who are consumed by them.