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How can the US lecture China on the rights of Muslims?

Andre Vltchek

In 2019, I wrote a long analysis about “the Uygur issue”; analysis which will be soon published as a book.

For some time, I have been warning the world that the West, and the United States in particular, are helping to radicalize the Uyghurs in Xinjiang Province and outside.

And not only that: I clearly mapped movement of the Uyghur radicals through some countries like Indonesia, towards Turkey, from where they are then injected into brutal war zones like Idlib in Syria. I worked in Idlib area, with the Syrian commanders, and I spoke at length with the Syrian internally displaced people; victims of the Uyghur genocidal attacks.

The majority of Uyghur people are Muslims. They have their own, ancient, specific culture and most of them are, of course, very decent human beings. Northwest China is their home.

The “problem” is that Urumqi, Xinjiang, are located on the main branch of BRI (The Belt and Road Initiative) – an extremely optimistic, internationalist project which is ready to connect billions of people on all continents. The BRI is infrastructural as well as cultural project, which will soon pull hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and under-development.

Washington is horrified that China is taking a lead in building a much brighter future for humanity. It is because, if China succeeds, it could be the end of Western imperialism and neo-colonialism, leading to real freedom and independence for dozens of until now suffering nations.

Therefore, Washington has decided to act, in order to preserve the status quo and its dominance over the world.

Step one: to antagonize, provoke and to smear China by all means, be it over Hong Kong, Taiwan, South China Sea or, above mentioned “Uygur Issue”.

Step two: to try to turn a part of China’s constitutionally-recognized national minority – Uyghurs – into “rebels”, or more precisely, terrorists.

Turkey, a member of NATO, offered the U.S. a helping hand. Uyghurs were flown with their families to Istanbul, with Turkish passports, through hubs in Southeast Asia. Then, their passports were confiscated in Istanbul. Many Uyghurs were recruited, trained, and then transported into war-torn Syria. Smaller group stayed in places like Indonesia, joining jihadi cadres there. When terrorist groups in Syria were almost thoroughly defeated, some Uyghurs were moved to Afghanistan, where I also used to work, and investigated.

Needless to say, Afghanistan has a short but important border with China.

Why all this complex operation?

The answer is simple: NATO/Washington/West hope that the hardened, well-trained Uyghur jihadi fighters will eventually return home to Xinjiang. There, they would start to fight for “independence”, and while doing that, they would sabotage the BRI.

This way, China would be injured, and its most powerful global project (BRI) would be disrupted.

The Chinese government is, naturally, alarmed. It is clear that the West has prepared brilliant trap:

  1. 1) If China does nothing, it will have to face extremely dangerous terrorist threat on its own territory (remember Soviet Union being dragged into Afghanistan, and mortally injured by Western trained, financed and supported Mujahedeen? West has long history of using Islam for its Machiavellian designs).
  2. 2) If China does something to protect itself, it will get attacked by the Western media and politicians. Precisely this is what is happening now.

Everything is ready, prepared.

On 12 September 2019, South China Morning Post, reported:

US Senate passes Uygur Human Rights Policy Act calling for sanctions on Chinese officials over Xinjiang camps

  • Bill also urges Trump administration to prohibit export of goods and services to state agents in Chinese region where upwards of 1 million Uygurs are being held
  • Beijing describes move as a ‘gross interference in China’s internal affairs’

Naturally, the so-called rights act to interfere in Xinjiang’s affairs is one great exercise in hypocrisy and intimidation.

Let us not forget that the United States is treating Muslim people with absolute spite. It even bans them from entering the country, if they happened to live in certain nations. It arbitrarily bombs them in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere, worrying nothing about the loss of civilian lives. It tortures Muslims, and it humiliates them at home and even in their own countries.

And frankly: by trying to trigger the Uyghur insurgency in China, Washington is clearly doing a great harm to the Uyghurs themselves, and actually to all people of Northwest China. It is not just wrong; the United States is committing crime against humanity.

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China is a multi-national, multi-cultural country. The Muslim culture is part of PRC’s identity. I suggest anyone who doubts that, to travel to Xi’an, one of three ancient capital cities of China.

Xi’an is where the old great Silk Road originated (ancient BRI, one could argue). Until now it is proud of its tremendous Muslim monuments, as well as of wonderful Muslim food and music. Every year, tens of millions of Chinese visitors travel to Xi’an, to understand its legacy, and enjoy its culture. The city is loved and appreciated, mainly because of its vibrant Muslim identity.

It is thorough nonsense that China is ‘anti-Muslim’. Both China (and Russia) are much more tolerant towards Islam than the West. Historically, and currently.

The same nonsense is to claim that China is building “concentration camps” in Xinjiang.

China’s position is clear: what the West describes as camps, are “vocational training centers” where “trainees” can learn Chinese and gain job skills to stop them becoming victims of “terrorism and religious extremism”.

A group of Muslim Indonesian leaders, which gained access to these so-called ‘camps’ in Xinjiang, recently told my colleague, that people who spend some time in these institutions can actually sleep at home, at night.

Hardly a Guantanamo Bay, frankly speaking.

The self-proclaimed “judge” – the United States – has hundreds of high-security prisons, scattered all over the country. It is well known fact that throwing often innocent people to jail is big (privatized) business there, already for long decades.

Millions of people are locked in for nothing. How can a country with one of the greatest number of prisoners on earth (on per capita bases) dare to preach anyone about justice? It is actually a great mystery.

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What is the true purpose of such acts?

The answer is easy to define: It is that the determined unwillingness of the U.S. to share influence on the world, with other, much more humanistic countries, such as China; it is its unwillingness to compete, on the basis of great ideas and goodwill.

The more nihilist the U.S. foreign policy becomes, the more it accuses others of ‘murder’.

The way things function is simple: Washington creates some terrible conflict, somewhere. When the victim-country tries to resolve the conflict, and so-to speak ‘extinguish fire’, it is accused of ‘violating rights’ and gets slammed by sanctions.

All this has to stop, at some point, soon. This policy of Washington turns millions of human lives into agony.

An abridged version of this article was originally posted in the China Daily

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Page
Dec 19, 2019 2:37 AM

“It is well known fact that throwing often innocent people to jail is big (privatized) business there, already for long decades”
Yes, the collusion between certain judges and the Security-Industrial-Complex in the US is an open secret. Add to this, Privatised security firms do lobby the government for increased jail sentences for petty crimes or trumped-up charges.

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 9:36 PM

What we have been witnessing for some time now is the collapse of the Rule of Law and Due Process in the US and throughout its various satellites and satrapies. These were things that always existed more in theory than practice, but all pretence of civilised standards and international law has now been abandoned. The examples are legion. The ICC was threatened with military action by the Trump Regime if it examined the war crimes and human rights abuses of the US or Israel. The rest of the planet is just expected to grant them immunity from any procedures that apply to the rest of humanity. The US claims the right to enforce its foreign policy and domestic regulations universally. So it orders Canada to arrest a Huawei executive on trumped up and unspecified secret sanctions charges laid in a secret court, as part of its campaign to suppress foreign… Read more »

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Dec 18, 2019 11:55 PM
Reply to  paul

But watch the reactions when you state that the U.S. is a fascist military dictatorship – its regime with a self-aggrandizing, intellectual amoeba for a spokesperson.

It is the cocksure that are hit the hardest when their bubble burst as they are carted away.

‘Deep State’ is actually ‘Sub-State’ – a sub world of murderous and mal-intending tax payer paid people, justifying their activities with the lamest of all excuses – ‘National Security’ and ‘law’ enforcement, while it is them, that endanger the continuance of the American Society and deem themselves above any law.

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 19, 2019 3:51 AM
Reply to  nottheonly1

You express it uncompromisingly, but that’s about right. It’s not ‘us & them’ though. Most participants, above & below the line of overt governance, believe in what they are doing. Most, of course, are doing nothing & saying nothing until they are, as you put it, ‘carted away’. We must all try to understand that the state & its reasoning (you say ‘excuses’) is no friend of the individual, nor of groups it might perceive as threatening. This broad problem – of the relationship between individual, community, nation & state – is where our intellectual effort must be applied. In US, it’s what the founders tried to do in the Constitution & Declaration, but failed to resolve as we’ve seen throughout its history – slavery for instance – & as we see today. US desire achieve ‘democracy’ may one day be realised. Not yet.

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 19, 2019 2:02 AM
Reply to  paul

Paul, that’s a fair commentary. It generously omits entire areas of current & historical US outlawry. Ever since my own government required me to register for conscription into its military for potential ‘service’ in Vietnam, I’ve understood clearly that the state is definitely not your friend. It generally fulfill its minimal obligations toward residents, ‘though with increasing parsimony & callousness, but if you are perceived as a threat, individually or severally, you will be removed. Assange is an obvious example. The US & its clients states see his professional commitment as a threat. They have determined to kill him & they will. A century from now he will be afforded the respect given to an Ida B Wells or Walter Lippman, even Nelson Mandela. Fun quotation from the American satirist H L Mencken in A.C.Grayling, Democracy & Its Crises): ‘Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual… Read more »

Page
Page
Dec 19, 2019 2:28 AM
Reply to  paul

Thanks Paul for the thoughtful comment.

There are no rules any more

There are rules!
But they are applied religiously agaisnt the weak, unaware and disadvantaged. To show the evilness of the new rulers, the unaware is deliberately made unaware and the disadvataged is deliberately made disadvantaged by intricate sets of laws and social engineering.

paul
paul
Dec 19, 2019 8:34 PM
Reply to  Page

At least African countries are starting to tell the ICC to take a running jump now.
They see it for what it is – a kangaroo court to bitch slap cheeky darkies who get out of line.

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 20, 2019 1:15 PM
Reply to  paul

Paul, I disagree. By accepting the authority of ICC & other international governance structures, Africans & other victims of colonial exploitation can show that they are better than their former overlords, notably US which refuses to be governed by anyone but its own plutarchy. Where African leaders have behaved criminally (sometimes with US support) they should face international law in the same way as their peers.
If you listen to the senior officials of ICC, it is certainly not a ‘kangaroo court’ (I am an Australian so always get a laugh from that term). I certainly do not endorse racists treatment of Africans, or anyone else. If you are seriously interested, please have a look at my most recent writing on Africa: https://medium.com/@wombat060152/oman-ghana-baako-africa-diaspora-msmes-investment-summit-excellence-awards-2019-60cc93804c94?source=friends_link&sk=1e38845c40abe694f9b5d3da4120fc80

paul
paul
Dec 20, 2019 10:42 PM

Corrupt and criminal Africans should be dealt with domestically, not in a western kangaroo court. Where there are problems with that, a trial can take place in a more stable neighbouring country.

Playing by somebody else’s rules in a rigged game is a fool’s errand. The ICC, ECHR, IAEA, OPCW, WADA and the like should be treated as what they are – irredeemably corrupt and hopelessly compromised tools of global corporate interests.

Page
Page
Dec 18, 2019 4:29 PM

“All this has to stop, at some point, soon. This policy of Washington turns millions of human lives into agony.”

All this has to stop, damage has to be assessed and quatified and most importantly FAIR and JUST RESTITUTION must be paid to all victims of US overt and covert operations overseas.

Courts must be established in every country on this planet to achieve just that. Restitution must also cover the cost of all these courts.

John Thatcher
John Thatcher
Dec 19, 2019 10:41 AM
Reply to  Page

Well yes Page,but just how do you propose we go about doing it?

Page
Page
Dec 20, 2019 6:18 AM
Reply to  John Thatcher

Demands for Restitution – how do we go about doing it? Ideas for the Public Domain: It starts with creating a repository that consolidates all the evidence of criminality by the US and their colonialist friends in every corner of the planet. This wikistyle listing would be out in the open for every person in the whole world a) to see b) to add to it c) to provide further evidence of criminality d) and experts can determine what is beyond-doubt guilt e) experts can determine the monetary value of the damage, including environmental and psychological damage This listing, or links to the materials, must have have full govenmental protection from sabotage and [from] vested interests, and must be kept published permanently and prominently, indefinitely. Mandatory that every single publication, in every country affected by US crimes, carries the listing and/or links to the listing, permanently and prominently. The critical… Read more »

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 19, 2019 3:18 PM
Reply to  Page

It’s not just Washington. Those exercising political power, always in their own & their polity’s interest, have always inflicted dispossession, control, destruction, misery & death on their ‘strategic adversaries’. As war has become industrialised & then urbanised, victims are increasingly civilian rather than military. (I’ve seen figures giving WW1 civilian casualties at 11% of total; Vietnam was already majority civilian; Syria almost totally so.) Victors have never, & will never, pay fair & just restitution. No such courts will ever have power. No ‘victor’ would submit to them, nor even allow them to be established. (It’s no coincidence that US denies ICC authority.)
The state is not your friend. No state: not the ‘enemy’ nor your own. You just have to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time, which is, of course, why refugees eventually leave behind their homes & the graves of their ancestors.

Page
Page
Dec 20, 2019 9:02 AM

“It’s no coincidence that US denies ICC authority”
So, the US claim immunity from prosecution?
This cements their status as terrorists, doesn’t it? Shouldn’t they be treated as such? Their envoys, diplomats, soldiers, businesses and citizens need to be made aware of this reality and should be treated according to how much support they give to state-sponsored terrorism.
Stating the obvious is necessary and so using direct language.

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 20, 2019 1:52 PM
Reply to  Page

Yes Page, that’s correct. US does not recognise the authority of ICC & has passed legislation protecting its military & civilian office holders, even obliging ‘allies’ to do the same. For instance, Pinochet was arrested in Britain; no US official could have been (at least, not for referral to ICC). US ‘envoys, diplomats, soldiers, businesses & citizens’ are generally aware of it. This is not a matter of governing elites exempting themselves alone; it is a case of US exceptionalism that permeates their culture. I would not say that it makes anyone a terrorist. It simply means that if US functionaries, from grunt soldiers with boots on the ground all the way up to the President, commit crimes, they cannot be prosecuted except by US courts (which, in many cases, won’t happen for domestic political reasons; an impeached Trump will not be prosecuted by the Senate for instance). This posture… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 11:16 AM

How the tight relation between US billionaires and communist China started: in 1971 president Richard Nixon had to abolish the US dollar gold standard. This financial wobble send Henry Kissinger to China immediately for a new profit frontier. Claiming to create a counter to the USSR was a good cover. Western plebs got cheap consumer goods while the Chinese got their jobs – for much lower wages.
Today Mike Bloomberg, HRC etc. want to keep the (US & Chinese) billionaires profits continuing by going against Trump’s upset the of rogue capitalism apple cart.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 11:39 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Cause and effect:

By 1966, non-US central banks held $14 billion, while the United States had only $13.2 billion in gold reserve.
Feb 1st 1969: President Nixon writes, “I think we should give every encouragement to the attitude that this Administration is ‘exploring possibilities of raprochement with the Chinese.’
1971:
May: West Germany left the Bretton Woods system, unwilling to revalue the Deutsche Mark.
June 10th : the US ends its trade embargo of China
July 9-11: Kissinger visits Beijing
July 15th: Nixon announces his China trip for 1972
August 15th: Nixon ends the Bretton Woods gold standard

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 18, 2019 2:25 PM
Reply to  Antonym

This is a very narrow conception of foreign policy, even by current US standards. It’s a bit like saying the US had to go to the moon due to a shortage of cheese. Obviously you believe this. I find it unconvincing, even after reading your time sequence below. I see neither cause nor effect in it. For instance, Nixon’s statement about raprochement with the Chinese could, & I believe did, have other motivations. Placing it in a time sequence cannot implicate it in an implied causal chain. Similarly, West Germany’s slightly earlier abandonment of the gold standard was no doubt a response to similar pressures, but not a causal link in this chain leading to ‘rogue capitalism’. It does not matter who is right about this anyway. The problem of how to achieve & maintain the most efficient distribution of profit shares in an economy, even if you can agree… Read more »

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 4:09 PM

Exactly right. There was a short border war between Russia and China in 1967. Nixon was just playing the old game of divide and rule. His prime concern at the time was extricating himself from Vietnam.
Trade, gold, outsourcing manufacturing, was not even a minor factor in these decisions.
These things only began to happen 20 years later after the collapse of communism when China became more capitalist than the US.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 19, 2019 3:51 AM
Reply to  Antonym

It could be said that the Chinese outsmarted the US. Thanks to the USSR they could see their future if they continued to be walled off from the rest of the world with their own Bamboo Curtain (anyone remember that term?). So they played the West’s game, making economic development a priority. We in the West just saw a traditional colonial vassal state — a source of raw materials and cheap labor with a market for finished goods, potential help with extrication from Vietnam, a counter to the USSR, what’s not to like? The result today is that China can look us in the eye as an equal. We don’t like it because we can’t carry on economic warfare against them to bring them into line (our attempts with the trade war are a bit lame, they’re doing us more damage than them, and our attempts to stifle their industry… Read more »

David Lee ANDREW
David Lee ANDREW
Dec 18, 2019 9:49 AM

I wish I could use my own icon. No matter. As for argie-bargie about whether China, US or some other contender is worse, my own view is that we should all get over the idea that ANY nation state can ever be our friend. All exist to serve one or other class of interests in which most of us do not participate. The article is right about some things that are relevant: – US does have more than 2 million of its own ‘citizens’ in prisons, just about double the number of Uighurs encamped. – Those in US are certainly involuntary & their conditions not enviable (I’ve been in prison myself). – US prisoners are strongly selected by colour (‘race’ if you subscribe to that construct). Additionally: – US incarceration rates are about double Russia’s (relative), while it’s military spending is 10 times greater (absolute). – if you’re looking for… Read more »

Jack Leon
Jack Leon
Dec 18, 2019 1:06 AM

“China is taking a lead in building a much brighter future for humanity.”

I had to wait 11 minutes, just to stop laughing.

Did u read this before you wrote it?

Yeah mass imprisonment without lawyers or due cause, burning down churches, a populous that is literally terrified to even think about politics, let alone discuss it openly. Banning tens of millions of your citizens from travel, with no legal recourse or convictions. Oh yeah, lets not forget the social credit system that is literally the diametric opposite of humanity itself.

The bunch of billionaires (109 to be exact) that are the Chinese parliament are more akin to the Fourth Reich.

If you think that the death of individualism is a great thing, move to China.

You can still appreciate all the shortcomings and atrocities of America while still being aware that China is on another level of dehumanization.

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 1:55 AM
Reply to  Jack Leon

Mass imprisonment – 2.3 million in US, mainly young black men, 98% of whom never had a trial.
Lawyers and due cause.
Institutionalised torture.
Extra judicial killings across the planet.
Ever heard of Bagram? Or Abu Ghraib? Or Guantanamo?
All made in the United States Of Torture.
Just spew out garbage from the NED hymn sheet against the Neocon Target Du Jour.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Dec 18, 2019 12:23 PM
Reply to  Jack Leon

The USA and China have one thing in common: both are run by billionaires who have made their money by rigging the system and ripping off the slaves: Wall St in the USA, the Politburo in China.
All the players are billionaires – even the politicians in China, such as Xi, who have never worked outside of politics.
Politics is old hat, the new world will be run by faceless companies in secret, such as in Davos, and the people will be seen as a huge global resource to be used. Marxism or democracy won’t matter, as long as the slaves are under control. That takes different styles of government in the west versus the east.
Why do you think the US congress is playing the fool at the moment, because it knows it is not in control of anything that matters, whatever it does doesn’t matter.

Jim Crint
Jim Crint
Dec 19, 2019 9:48 AM
Reply to  Jack Leon

At last somebody says the obvious. This is the most hilarious piece of propaganda since the last time he was published. This writer is nothing for but an apologist for the Beijing regime, I guess he is on their payroll. He seems to think that the Hong Kong people (who voted 18 out of 19 districts for democracy) are under the direction of the CIA. There are enough witnesses describing the appalling treatment of Uyghurs that he whitewashes. Just remember, China has law, but no rule of law.
When you see his name over an article, just move on.

Dago Dingo
Dago Dingo
Dec 20, 2019 10:44 PM
Reply to  Jack Leon

Chemtrails must be working a treat where you live.

RobG
RobG
Dec 18, 2019 12:00 AM

By the way, Julian Assange is right at this minute dying in Belmarsh Prison in south east London.

I have to ask the obvious question: what has my country become?

A bunch of spives, lunatics and criminal psychos are now in control.

RobG
RobG
Dec 17, 2019 11:45 PM

Craig Murray is now talking about ‘trans-gender issues’…

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/12/the-difficulty-of-gender-issues/

How fecking mad does this have to get before you realise that you are living in a police state?!

The election was stolen. That much is blatently obvious.

(sorry, Andre, to interrupt your very well written piece)

Jen
Jen
Dec 17, 2019 10:53 PM

Interesting that Washington DC chooses to demonise the Chinese by insinuating that Beijing runs a network of concentration camps preying on a minority religion and ethnic group.

It’s as if the Americans deny the existence of their own gulag networks by psychologically projecting their guilt onto others, as they have done in the past.

And of course this raises the spectre of past genocides, beginning with the British incarceration of Boer people in camps in southern Africa in the 1890s, the German deportation of Herero people into the Kalahari desert (where they perished) in the first decade of the 1900s and the later Ottoman deportations and genocides of Christian groups into the Syrian desert during World War I, all of which were the prototypes for later and larger mass deportations, incarcerations and massacres.

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 2:03 AM
Reply to  Jen

I think it pays to be wary of these large round numbers that are touted around, whether it’s “one million” or “six million.”

When Ceaucescu was overthrown in Romania in 1989, it was stated and regularly repeated that “60,000” had been killed. The true figure was later found to be about 800.

This “one million in concentration camps” comes from the same people who brought us Iraq WMD, Iran WMD, Syrian Gas Hoaxes, Skripal, Russiagate, the Kosovo Genocide, Gaddafi’s Viagra fuelled black rapists, and much else besides.

RobG
RobG
Dec 17, 2019 10:42 PM

The dying days of the US Empire get more and more boring.

Howabout we build a new society, folks!

pasha
pasha
Dec 18, 2019 2:16 AM
Reply to  RobG

More and more dangerous. A pack of rabid rats.

Theo
Theo
Dec 17, 2019 6:38 PM

Someone wrote that on MSM you always see the same reeducation camp with 2500 inmates. That leaves 997500 prisoners. If we assume that every other reeducation camp has the same number of prisoners, there should be 399 more of these camps. A considerable number. Where are they?The MSM never presented any satellite images. They can’t all be hidden, can they?,

Bootlyboob
Bootlyboob
Dec 18, 2019 1:08 AM
Reply to  Theo

There is some satellite imagery here:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/satellite-images-expose-chinas-network-of-re-education-camps/10432924?pfmredir=sm

I noticed a couple of the images show these poor ‘prisoners’ have access to a full sized athletics/soccer field. Being waterboarded or having a bit of kick of the ball…

…it’s roughly equivalent right?

And what about those cocksuckers around the globe that warn of the dangers of Islam day in day out. It’s such an amazing coincidence that all the peaceful Muslims happened to be in a Chinese province while all the violent terrorist types are everywhere but there.

Theo
Theo
Dec 18, 2019 8:44 AM
Reply to  Bootlyboob

First, sorry I voted you down. I meant to tap the reply button. And thanks for the link.

paul
paul
Dec 17, 2019 3:40 PM

Abu Zubaydah was tortured 83 times in US concentration camps. Not including daily torture over a period of years, being confined inside tiny wooden boxes smaller than coffins, and the whole repertoire of medieval torture chambers. Another unfortunate was stripped naked in a freezing cell and chained to a wall in a standing position. He was just left until somebody eventually noticed 17 days later that he was dead. Sexual perversion and degradation was routinely inflicted on these people, the product of sick and diseased minds from a very sick and diseased society. Our US friends still maintain a global gulag of concentration camps, secret prisons and torture chambers in a score of countries (including UK territory) where thousands of people have been tortured and murdered on an industrial scale. Most of them from moslem countries. And the UK is fully complicit in the crimes that have been committed and… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 11:21 AM
Reply to  paul

Wait, China doesn’t torture? Good news?

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 4:15 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Certainly not as much as Israel, where torture, like racism, has been institutionalised in law.

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 17, 2019 2:36 PM

We need a Plan B.
Never in a million years are we going to get the general public to read an excellent article like this one.
They just don’t have the mental energy.
Isn’t THAT really our problem?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Dec 17, 2019 2:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yup the two party parliamentry system is dangerously out of control.

I blame the treasonous LibDems of 2010 for failing to deliver that – which would have put us on a road to a more fairly constructed government- like Germany.

Should be the No 1 priority that will speak to all peoples – that every vote COUNTS.

eddie
eddie
Dec 17, 2019 11:25 AM

Muslims and Christians combined constitute less than 5% of the Chinese population, so their voice is about as loud as a goose fart on a foggy day.
Xi’an is a wonderful city, but the mostly Chinese tourists are there for the terra-cotta warriors.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 17, 2019 11:48 AM
Reply to  eddie

The Muslim voice there is minuscule because the Chinese state, MSM and blogs don’t have to support the Arab-Anglo oil dollar. About the opposite of the EU and the US.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Dec 17, 2019 11:24 AM

And in the UK, we have Eric Pickles lecturing us all about darling Israel and saying BDS will be criminalised. Of course, he will not be criminalising falsification of intelligence to justify mass genocide of innocent civilians from Afghanistan through Iraq to Libya and Syria, because no human in the Middle East outside Israel has any value. Unlike a grossly obese Zionist who needs to leave UK politics as his priorities are not in the right place…. Personally I would call for the death sentence for 1 million UK warmongers, absolutely including all family members of every single MP who voted for those wars; -of the top 200 intelligence officials, the top 200 MOD/FCO civil servants and all the ignorant wastrels in the overpaid hierarchy and underequipped active armed forces. But mass genocide is just one of those things, because we vote every five years. Fine: next people to bomb… Read more »

paul
paul
Dec 17, 2019 3:11 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

But we’re ‘Muricans!
We’re exceptional!!
We’re indispensable!!!
The sun shines out of our a***holes!!!!

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Dec 17, 2019 11:13 AM

Timely publishing of Vltchek’s piece Off-G! As i wanted to comment along these lines. It almost seems counterpointed in the sense that it is raising the profile of the coming (Cumming?) WAR in far away places we haven’t heard of and where our body bags will start arriving from. That is the concise comment – now the contextual ones… ————- LOCAL What happened in this country last week is exactly analagous to what happened in WW1/WW2…every fucking war ever! including the Brexit referendum! The posters proclaiming ‘your country needs you’ ; ‘the Huns are coming!’ ; ‘The Enemy Within’ would be put up. The propagandists lined up to dragoon the canon fodder. This time it was not just the Huns it was a personal demonisation of Corbyn and the crassest of old fashioned RACISM against the likes of Abbot – we didn’t see posters and graffiti – it was done… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 17, 2019 7:03 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Quite right DunG – enough of this defeatist pish. Always recall that the enemy’s power lies in illusion. Also – it’s nice to take a look around outside this phoney UK election. Stop getting so bogged down in what Pete Townshend so rightly called ‘this poxy little shit-stained island’.

davemass
davemass
Dec 17, 2019 9:41 AM

Gitmo vs Xinjiang camps. Hmm…the hypocrisy is amazing,
Merry Christmas…

Page
Page
Dec 17, 2019 9:18 AM

Support To Resistance (STR) is a US foreign policy doctrine used to disrupt any nation the Americans and their so-called allies don’t like.

Uyghurs as well Hong Kong protestors failed miserably at learning the lessons from Tibet, where the chief aim of all the propaganda, political and military aid, was solely to ‘BLEED’ the Beijing government. Another aim was to let Chinese and Tibetans kill each others. Tibet is just one case among many many more cases across the globe where the US implemented their STR routines effectively.

That what makes the US congress rejoice. This is Nirvana for the murderers, who call themselves ‘Exceptionals’, in the US!

Terje M
Terje M
Dec 17, 2019 9:04 AM

It is worth mentioning that the all the claims of ‘1 million Uighurs in concentration camps’ can all be traced back to CIA sources.

There are two main sources.

-one is a guy an expert named Adrian Zenz, with an online degree from Columbia International University, a bible school in South Carolina (wich media on purpose confuses or let the readers confuse with the prestigious Columbia University in NY). He used ‘open source’ research, a method we all know well from Bellingcat. (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Adrian_Zenz)

-The other main source, Network of Chinese Human Rights Defender, is financed to the hilt by the US government (NED). It came to a similar conclusion USING A SAMPLE OF 8 INTERVIEWEES and extrapolating the numbers. (https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghurs-other-ethnic-minorities-forced-into-re-education-programs/)

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Dec 17, 2019 10:22 AM
Reply to  Terje M

SOAS in London is all over it too – has been since the summer, building the Save the Uighur’s narrative.

paul
paul
Dec 17, 2019 3:14 PM
Reply to  Terje M

There is now a CIA Radio Free Uighur as well.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Dec 17, 2019 7:51 PM
Reply to  Terje M

And see the odious David Frum, scheming weasel of the neocon set on the Uighurs.

Page
Page
Dec 17, 2019 8:43 AM

Somone needs to state what now-has-become obvious. Is the Communist Party of China aware of how to earn:

Standing Ovations for Every Chinese Official visiting the US Congress??!

Easy! no problem, let the communist leadership in Beijing bomb Xinjiang, civilians and infrastructure and all, with mostly US made bombs,napalm and depleted uranium. Beijing can have a package deal that would include UK expertise in massacring poor people together with lethality enhancing Australian components. Israel can offer the technology to track humans escaping on foot, in poor visibility, from airstrikes.

And you would have, as a result, an immediate reversal of all Western media hositility against China. Yes, reversal of hostilities, but for how long? Probably the bombing needs to be repeated every year or so.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 17, 2019 7:26 AM

How can China lecture India on the rights of Muslims:

December 17th: U.N. Security Council to meet on Kashmir at China’s request

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/un-security-council-to-meet-on-kashmir-on-tuesday-at-chinas-request/article30326461.ece
Imagine that dummy Pandit Nehru helped China in its UN security council seat long ago without managing one for his own nation!

P.S.: the “Hindu” newspaper is now actually quite anti Hindu and pro communist, so they love this stuff.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 17, 2019 6:45 AM

Blaming India, its elected government or their Hindus for giving Muslims less rights is de rigueur too at the Guardian – of the Angloil Establishment –> Arab oil a$ dollar $upport.

Actually Muslims in India got more rights than Hindus from endless Congress governments: they run their own mosques – Hindu temples are state run!; they can establish their own schools and colleges – Hindus are not allowed; they can have 4 wives legally – Hindus not. https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/how-hindu-rights-have-been-seriously-damaged-by-article-30-and-rte-act

lundiel
lundiel
Dec 17, 2019 7:50 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Never read such a sorry, self-pitying load of cobblers in my life.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 17, 2019 9:32 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Strange as it sounds, these are verifiable facts. Indian Congress has never been pro Hindu majority, it went for divide and concur just like the colonial Brits.
Ever seen M. Gandhi or P. Nehru visiting any temple?

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 17, 2019 10:42 AM
Reply to  Antonym

A bit like Corbyn, Macron or Merkel not caring about their own white under class over immigrants. That’s why India has Modi, the US Trump and the UK now Johnson.
In India discriminating the majority was even formalized into laws by Fabian champagne socialist Nehru.

Jen
Jen
Dec 17, 2019 10:22 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Beginning to feel sorry I hounded Norman Pilon off Off-Guardian.org by repeatedly hitting him with that NYT op-ed by Yassin al-Haj Saleh (in which the Syrian activist admitted to living with the White Helmets in East Ghouta during 2013) because now we have to put up with a troll who is becoming increasingly demented in his/her fervour in pursuing an anti-Islamic agenda.

Next thing you know, Antonym will be claiming that governments discriminate against the rich people by providing soup kitchens for the homeless and the poor who should be thrown into debtors’ prisons instead.

paul
paul
Dec 17, 2019 3:15 PM
Reply to  lundiel

I did.
Read any one of his posts.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Dec 17, 2019 10:28 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Are you channeling Bob Blackman/Pritti Patel and their xenophobic anti Corbyn missive to the Hindu voters last few weeks?

Last days of Empire – enjoy the Downfall, find your bunkers.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 17, 2019 7:09 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Bloody right Ant, bloody Muslims bloody feckin’ Arabs bloody – come over here takin’ our jobs bloody feckin’ feckin’ bloody …..

Jen
Jen
Dec 17, 2019 10:16 PM
Reply to  Antonym

I should think that Article 30 is in the Indian Constitution as part of the original project of Indian democracy to give equal rights and responsibilities to all people, irrespective of their religion and ethnicity, and to allow them to establish educational institutions of their choice so they can instruct children in their religion and their languages. The Article helps to guarantee the right of Indian citizens to an education in the languages and communities they have been born into and helps ensure that every community in India is on a level playing field so that members are not at a disadvantage when they participate in public life. THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA Article 30 Right of minorities to establish and administer educational institutions.- (1) All minorities, whether based on religion or language, shall have the right to establish and administer educational institutions of their choice. _20[(1A) In making any law… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 1:34 AM
Reply to  Jen

Trust Jen to stand up for Islam which would lock her up in purdah in an eye blink.
Muslims are till today under-educated only because they send their kids to Madrassas to learn the Koran by heart in a foreign language they don’t even understand with corporal punishment as motivation.
Indian Muslims today are on average richer than other Indians: they easily get jobs in the rich Gulf states. Just drive around in Kerala and see the sizes of house and cars or Muslims.

What is there ultra in letting the majority of a country have the same rights as its minorities? For ultra visit Pakistan at your own peril.

If you like Pandit Nehru’s article 30 implement it in the UK: Madrassas and Catholic schools all around while CoE schools are forbidden.

Jen
Jen
Dec 18, 2019 1:42 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Well, who are you folks gonna believe, me or Antonym? From International Business Times (2013): Surprise, Surprise: Muslims Are India’s Poorest And Worst Educated Religious Group India’s Muslims have the lowest living standard in the country on a per capita basis, according to a government survey. Muslims, who account for about 14.4 percent of India’s vast population, according to data from Pew Research, spend, on average, only 32.7 Rupees ($0.52) per day. At the other end of the wealth spectrum, on average, India’s tiny minority of Sikhs spend 55.3 Rupees per day. Christians (51.4 Rupees) and Hindus (37.5 Rupees) fall somewhere in between. “The average monthly per capita expenditure (MPCE) of a Sikh household was [1,659 Rupees] while that for a Muslim household was [980 Rupees] in 2009-10,” said a study by the government’s National Sample Survey Office (NSSO) called “Employment and Unemployment Situation Among Major Religious Groups in India.”… Read more »

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 3:24 AM
Reply to  Jen

I believe my own eyes, plus my brain, not some foreign Muslim visiting scholar. I have seen many fancy Muslim houses in 2019 in the South . In West Bangal many Muslims are illegal economic immigrants received happily as voters during the CPI(M) and now regional TMC government. The BJP wants to send them back to Bangladesh, rightly so: sheikh Hasina wants them back.

Muslim girls are obviously early drop outs as their culture promotes purdah. For boys normal education is seen as secondary to religious education, so you get what you wish for. Halting work regularly to pray doesn’t suit a number of jobs too.

Sorry, I don’t comply with the Arab-Anglo oil dollar cartel that diplays Muslims as eternal victims while actually being frequently violent non integrators – as per Koran 7th century frozen ideology.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 3:48 AM
Reply to  Antonym

These illegal Muslim immigrants were burning trains and uprooting railway tracks last week in West Bengal India. Looked quite organized seeing many same crowbars. Who calls that normal protest? https://twitter.com/IPF_ORG/status/1206542532273786880

Jen
Jen
Dec 18, 2019 5:36 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Well no-one here is in any dispute with you that you want to believe your own addled brain. 🙂

paul
paul
Dec 18, 2019 2:12 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Under educated because all they do is rote learn religious texts.
Sounds like all those orthodox Jews.
Should get on well with one other.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 18, 2019 4:03 AM
Reply to  Antonym

A Guardian editorial defends Muslim protesters in India against Modi’s citizenship law: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/17/the-guardian-view-on-modis-citizenship-law-dangerous-for-all
His Master’s Anglo-Arab oil dollar’s Voice in action again.

Islam is protected state religion in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh; dwindling persecuted non-Muslim minorities there live in fear. Modi’s new law want to give India citizenship to these minorities if they migrate. Not to the safe Muslim majorities there obviously.
Against this some Islamists and their enablers were protesting in a few places India: nonsense as all Indian Muslims are Indians and that law doesn’t affect them, it is only for some foreigners. But anything to smear PM Modi: he even included Christians but some blind students in Chennai’s Christian Loyola college protested.

Manipulated fake news production based on fake facts.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Dec 17, 2019 6:34 AM

The ubiquitous Stars and Stripes.
As ubiquitous as Coca Cola and McDonalds.
And just as toxic for those who are consumed by them.