Trump Impeachment: Ukrainegate Hidden Evidence

Eric Zuesse

On November 22nd, a 100-page Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) data-dump was made by the U.S. Department of State, to the Democratic-Party-aligned nonprofit “American Oversight,” which had been founded in March 2017 by liberals (really by some of the main billionaires who fund the Democratic Party) after the 2016 Democratic electoral defeat (by Republican billionaires).

The now Republican-headed U.S. State Department made it as difficult as possible to report the contents of this dump; Most especially by providing only a photographic image of each page, making it impossible to search on most systems; and also impossible to Copy/Paste any quotations.

Consequently, on November 23rd, I made a pdf copy of that document to the Web Archive (the first of probably many that will become posted there), in order to be able to link here to something that will come onscreen less sluggishly for any interested reader who will want to see the document.

I am herewith pasting below what I consider to be the most important extended passage in the document, so as to make that passage especially available online. I have manually transcribed the photos, in order that any portion of this important passage (pages 61-66) can now be easily found and cited by other reporters.

This way, at least that passage might become more widely disseminated to the public — which it should be, because the information there contradicts many of the ‘news’-reports about Ukrainegate, or the impeachment case against Trump. (Some excerpts from this extended passage were reported on November 25th by the great non-mainstream news-site Zero Hedge, and that was entirely accurate.)

In this passage, President Trump’s lawyer Rudolphe Giuliani, on January 23, 25, and 26, of 2019, took a deposition from Viktor Shokin, whom Joe Biden had forced to be fired on 29 March 2016 as Ukraine’s Prosecutor General, and also a deposition from Yuriy Lutsenko, who replaced Shokin and thereby freed-up from the Obama Administration in 2016 a one-billion-dollar donation (‘loan guarantees’ to the then-and-now bankrupt Government of Ukraine) from America’s taxpayers, to fund the then just-recently-installed-by-Obama anti-Russian Government of Ukraine, for it to stay afloat just a while longer.

Here is that passage (pages 61-66):

Shokin/Lutsenko Notes – U.S. Department of State

Shokin – January 23, 2019, 445 Park Avenue New York, NY 10022:

On January 23, 2019, a telephone interview with Mr. Viktor Shokin the former General Prosecutor of Ukraine was conducted. Present in the New York location were: Rudolph Giuliani, Mr. Igor Fruman, Mr. Lev Parnas and Mr. George Boyle.

The conversation was conducted through the use of two (2) interpreters one (1) in Ukraine and one (1) Lev Parnas in New York. The sum and substance of the conversation are as follows:

Mr. Shokin stated that he was appointed to the position of General Prosecutor of Ukraine from 2015 until April of 2016 when he was removed at the request of Mr. Joseph Biden the Vice President of the United States. Mr. Shokin was a Deputy Prosecutor prior to becoming the General Prosecutor. He became involved in a case against Mr. Mykola Zlochevsky the former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine.

The case was opened as a result of Mr. Zlochevsky giving himself/company permits to drill for gas and oil in Ukraine. Mr. Zlochevsky is also the owner of Burisma Holdings, which is a corporation registered in Cyprus. Mr. Shokin stated that there are documents that list five (5) criminal cases in which Mr. Zlochevsky is listed, with the main case being for issuing illegal gas exploration permits. The following complaints are in the criminal case.

  1. Mr. Zlochevsky was laundering money
  2. Obtained assets by corrupt acts bribery
  3. Mr. Zlochevsky removed approximately twenty three million U.S. dollars out of Ukraine without permission
  4. While seated as the Minister he approved two addition[al] entities to receive permits for gas exploration
  5. Mr. Zlochevsky was the owner of two secret companies that were part of Burisma Holdings and gave those companies permits which made it possible for him to profit while he was the sitting Minister

The above cases were closed after Mr. Zlochevsky was dismissed from the Ministry.

Mr. Shokin further stated that there were several Burisma board appointees [that] were made in 2014 as follows:

  1. Hunter Biden son of Vice President Joseph Biden
  2. Joseph Blade former CIA employee assigned to Anti-Terrorist Unit
  3. Aleksander Kwasnieski former President of Poland
  4. Devon Archer roommate to Christopher Heinz the step-son of Mr. John Kerry United States Secretary of State

Mr. Shokin stated that these appointments were made by Mr. Zlochevsky in order to protect himself. Mr. Zlochevsky left Ukraine while the above-mentioned cases were open.

Mr. Shokin stated that the investigations stopped out of fear of the United States. Mr. Shokin attempted to continue the investigations but on or around June or July of 2015 the U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt told him that the investigation has to be handled with white gloves, which, according to Mr. Shokin, implied to do nothing. On or about September 2015, Mr. Pyatt gave a speech in Odessa where he stated that the cases were not investigated correctly and that Mr. Shokin may be corrupt.

Mr. Shokin stated that in 2014 Mr. Zlochevsky was in the UK and that the twenty three million dollars were frozen in the UK in the BNP Bank. Mr. Shokin stated that false documents were prepared and the money was released so Mr. S[sp]lochevski before Mr. Shokin took office. That release of the money made Mr. Shokin look into the above cases again.

Mr. Shokin stated that there were several articles written about bribes being taken during the investigation of the cases. The bribes were an effort to have the cases closed. On April [actually 29 March] of 2016 Mr. Shokin was dismissed as the General Prosecutor of Ukraine [and both the U.S. and its stooge the EU celebrated his firing — the EU aquiesced in the U.S. regime’s Ukrainian coup]. In November of 2016 the cases were closed by the current Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko.

Mr. Shokin further stated that on February of 2016 warrants were placed on the accounts of multiple people in Ukraine. There were requests for information on Hunter Biden to which nothing was received. It is believed that Hunter Biden receives a salary, commission, plus one million dollars. Mr. Shokin stated he was warned to stop by Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt.

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko’s office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in U.S. aid to Ukraine.

Mr. Shokin stated that on or around April of 2016 Mr. Petro Poroshenko called him and told him he had to be fired as the aid to the Ukraine was being withheld by Joe Biden. Mr. Biden told Mr. Poroshenko that he had evidence that Mr. Shokin was corrupt and needed to be fired. Mr. Shokin was dismissed in April of 2016 and the U.S. aid was delivered within one and one half months.

On a different point, Mr. Shokin believes the current [U.S.] Ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch denied his visa to travel to the U.S. Mr. Shokin stated that she is close to Mr. Biden. Mr. Shokin also stated that there were leaks by a person named Reshenko of the Ukrainian State Secret Service about the Manafort Black Book. Mr. Shokin stated that there is possible deceit in the Manafort Black Book.

End of interview.


Yuriy Lutsenko January 25, 2019, 445 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10022:

On January 25, 2019, Mr. Yuriy Lutsenko the current Prosecutor General of Ukraine was present at 445 Park Av e, New York, NY. He was present to speak about corruption in Ukraine. He was accomapnied by Glib Zagoriy, Gyunduz Mamedov, Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman. Also present were Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and George Boyle.

Mr. Lutsenko stated that he is currently the Prosecutor General for Ukraine. He was the Minister of Interior from 2007 to 2010. He further stated that he was placed in jail for two and one half years as a political prisoner.

Mr. Lutsenko stated that his office has the following units under his purview:

  1. Police Department
  2. Fiscals
  3. Secret Service
  4. Investigative Department

Mr. Lutsenko stated that his office has recovered several billion dollars and has had two thousand six hundred thirty-seven [2,637] verdicts of corruption. Mr. Lutsenko went on to explain that there is a unit called Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutors Office (SAP) which has under its purview National Anticorruption Bureau Ukraine (NABU) which investigates corruption cases that involve public figures from Mayors upward. He stated that the current U.S. Ambassador protects SAP and NABU.

He feels they are good organizations but have terrible leadership. His office has absolutely no control over SAP or NABU and can’t even ask what they are working on, however they fall under his ‘control’.

He further state[s] that he believes Mr. Viktor Shokin, the former Prosecutor General, is honest.

Mr. Lutsenko went on to say that he began looking at the same case Mr. Shokin was looking at (mentioned above) and he believes Hunter Biden receives millions of dollars in compensation from Burisma. He produced a document from Latvia that showed several million dollars that were distributed out of Burisma’s account.

The record showed two (2) companies and four (4) individuals receiving approximately sixteen million dollars in disbursements, as follows [the breakdown is shown].

Mr. Lutsenko feels that the total disbursements can be as high as $100,000,000. …

Ambassador Pyatt gave a speech on September 25, 2015 in Odessa against the Prosecutor Generals’ Office.
Yuriy Lutsenko Continued:

On January 26, 2019, Mr. Yuriy Lutsenko, the current Prosecutor General of Ukraine, was present at 445 Park ave., New York, NY. …[His second day of testimony contained only one specific mention which was not vague and which had not been indicated previously by Shokin: A “system was set up in order to remove money from the Ukraine, have it laundered, and then collect the laundered money.

These companies were all headed by one Chief Financial Officer.

Mr. Lutsenko stated that about twenty (20) to forty (40) of these companies were shell companies. He further stated that there were twenty-three (23) companies located offshore, and that two of them had approximately seven billion dollars that were placed in the Templeton Fund. The system ran similar to a ‘pyramid’ scheme and all of the beneficiaries were pro-Russian [which was undefined but presumably meant associated with the pre-coup Ukrainian Government].

For background and context in order to interpret those depositions, it might be helpful to see my recent “Ukraine, Trump, Biden — The Real Story Behind ‘Ukrainegate’”.

Zlochevsky is actually the decoy, but the real person who has majority-ownership of Burisma, after Zlochevsky sold to him most of his shares in 2011, is the key Ukrainian billionaire who had backed Obama’s February 2014 coup, Ihor Kolomoysky. And Kolomoysky is now far more interested in recovering a few billions from his bankrupt PrivatBank, Ukraine’s largest bank, than in trying to extract the relative pittance that might still be entailed in Burisma (which probably isn’t much, now that no established fracking company has found it to be worth developing).

Apparently, Trump hasn’t yet decided whether to continue the Obama-installed regime in Ukraine or else to expose it and to go after both Obama and Kolomoysky, and to abandon the cover-story of Biden and Zlochevsky. If he does decide to go after the principals in the case, then he’ll have to expose whom were the actual principals, and whom were merely their agents.

Thus far, in the American press, all of the attention has been only on actual agents, no principals. Given the way in which Trump’s State Department buried the release of that data-dump, Trump has not been particularly eager to get the real story out there. Nor, of course, are the Democratic Party billionaires whose “American Oversight” has likewise done nothing to facilitate the exposure of the actual historical narrative in this case.

Also of interest in the document are (p.79):

Dec 7, 2015:Biden-Poroshenko meeting in Kiev

Dec. 9, 2015: Hunter Biden and business partner Devon Archer meet at State Department regarding Burisma Holdings prosecution. [But no online record is provided, no documentation here, of what was said.]

Feb. 11, 16, 19, 2016: VP Biden holds series of phone calls with President Poroshenko to check on status of pending items from their December 2015 meeting. Removal of general prosecutor raised again. [But, again, no online record is provided. No evidence is provided of any mention of replacing the prosecutor.]

March 15, 2016: Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland demands Ukraine “appoint and confirm a new, clean Prosecutor General, who is committed to rebuilding the integrity of the PGO, and investigate, indict and successfully prosecute corruption and asset recovery cases — including locking up dirty personnel in the PGO itself.” She offers no proof that special prosecutor’s [General Prosecutor’s] office is corrupt.

March 22, 2016: VP Joe Biden engages in a phone call from Washington DC with Ukrainian President Poroshenko about U.S. loan guarantees [there is actually no indication in the official readout regarding any “loan guarantees”].

It is believed in this call that Biden renews his demands that the president fire Prosecutor General Shokin, … but this time Biden warns Ukraine risk[s] losing the next $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees [and, yet again, Pompeo’s State Department falsifies, because the official readout says nothing of the sort].

[The only useful information that’s provided there is that seven days before Shokin was fired, Biden did phone Poroshenko, and that Pompeo’s State Department isn’t to be trusted in anything it asserts, because it misrepresents here what that readout says. Therefore, the “Dec. 9, 2015” entry also isn’t to be trusted, since no accompanying documentation is provided for its allegation.]

Originally posted at strategic-culture.org


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Dec 22, 2019 5:18 PM

The impeachment is just kabuki theatre. Schiff, Nadler, Cohen, Cohen and Cohen rushed it through at breakneck speed with complete disregard for normal process, but there is now no urgency whatever on their part to put it before the Senate.

It is just a distraction device, a device. “Look at that flying pig over there! Don’t look here, look over there!”

It just distracts from everything else that is going on, such as a new $1.4 trillion “Defence” budget, with all sorts of controversial tagged on to it like ornaments on a Xmas tree. Things like an amnesty for 1.5 million illegal immigrants and their dependents. Just slip it in with zero discussion and hope nobody notices. Suck all the oxygen out of the room with kabuki theatre and flying pigs.

Dec 21, 2019 11:07 PM


A funny and realistic way to deal with Adam Schiff.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Dec 21, 2019 10:17 PM

Eric, you have provided an excellent, objective, compelling history of events.

However, I regrettably cannot share this further because most unfortunately you have allowed your personal subjectivity to creep in and potentially destroy your otherwise very powerful message, which should be spread far and wide.

Specifically, you should in my opinion, with respect, completely remove your highly subjective wording of –

[and both the U.S. and its stooge the EU celebrated his firing — the EU aquiesced in the U.S. regime’s Ukrainian coup].

Whilst I / we may fully agree with your personal view, Most unfortunately, that sentence completely destroys your otherwise perfectly objective, factual argument.

I hope you may agree to ask the OffG editors to remove it ASAP. I’d otherwise love to share your excellent analysis very far and far wide.


Dec 21, 2019 2:47 AM

I thought that the Republicans and Democrats decided to, essentially, kill the impeachment (hoax) in order to protect the entire political class. I mean, Really, the contest between Republicans is phony so that development is not surprising. Also, according to Alexander Mercouris (who wants to see Trump re-elected!), both Shokin and Lutsenko (who doesn’t have a lawyer background) were doing dirty work on behalf of their respective oligarch patrons. That’s Ukraine now and peviously. It does seem that there’s a lot of dislike for Trump by the Dems and many Repubs but there’s an even stronger dislike by those enemies of Trum, together with the rest of the political class, of democracy. And there’s a culture of criminalit and impunity which members of the American political share or the exposure of Russiagate would have seen a chastening of the Democratic Party et al instead of a doubling down on whatever… Read more »

Dec 22, 2019 7:45 PM
Reply to  Arby

The Democrats have absolutely NOTHING to offer ordinary Americans.

What are your policies on the economy, unemployment, homelessness?
-Orange Man Bad!
What are your policies on healthcare?
– We hate Trump!!
What are your policies on education and student debt?
– Impeach Trump!!! Impeach Trump!!!
What are your policies on crime and immigration?
= Kill Trump!!!! Kill Trump!!!!

Listen to Biden or Pelosi trying to string a few words together to form a sentence. They belong in the old folks home. Just like the Soviet Union towards the end, a gerontocracy.

Trump is no better. Just two cheeks of the same arse, two sides of the kosher sandwich.

Dec 23, 2019 10:22 AM
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George Cornell
George Cornell
Dec 23, 2019 7:55 PM
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Dec 21, 2019 2:19 AM

Imagine the confidence the Democrats still have today that with “Ukrainegate” they can criminalize sitting president Trump instead of their own much more guilty opposition leaders: US deep state is almost 50 rooted with many appointees in all power branches.

Dec 21, 2019 1:22 AM

Three billion dollars of USAID money sent to Ukraine over 3 years is not accounted for, no documents, no audits.
The Clinton Foundation has received $10 million in donations of $500K and up from Ukraine this century.
Igor Pasternak had a fundraiser in Washington for Adam Schiff; $1000/plate- guest, $2500/plate-sponsor.
Ukranians and US taxpayers should like to know where did our dollars go, and who else in addition to the Bidens are at the trough.

George Cornell
George Cornell
Dec 23, 2019 7:59 PM
Reply to  ttshasta

If you want a list of unprincipled toadies, just look at donors to the Clinton Foundation. What kind of mindless fool gives money to crooks? So they will be bought off from pillaging countries they have invaded, is the most benign explanation I cam come up with.

Dec 21, 2019 12:05 AM

Ukraine is not quite the most corrupt country on the planet, but it gives Afghanistan and Somalia some pretty stiff competition. Many tens of billions have been poured into the country by the US and EU taxpayer, via the IMF, CIA, NED, and similar organisations. It has promptly vanished into thin air. There is nothing to show for it. Ukraine is a Big Black Hole. It is now just a CIA/ NATO playground in the grand scheme of things to install an openly Fascist Regime in Kiev to encircle and destabilise Russia. The main players in Ukraine are Levantine oligarchs like Kolomoisky and his ilk, who have stolen everything that wasn’t nailed down in Ukraine since independence. And everything that was nailed down. Just like Russia in the 1990s. They were joined by a whole host of all the usual suspects, dual/ triple national Jews with a visceral hatred of… Read more »

Dec 20, 2019 7:20 PM

So the documents were released three weeks ago?

Giuliani had the evidence in JANUARY?

So the Quid Pro Quo kerfuffle was manufactured thereafter?

So the QPQ is actually by Dems’ trying to stop prosecution of Biden and above? Clinton and Obama? Which is why the impeachment bs?

Or is it to stop the prosecution of the chiefs of the 3 letter agencies in their manufacturing of Russiagate?
And their 5+1 eyed cohorts? In a conspiracy against the potus?

Now just fit in Syria, White Helmets and Skripals and all the dots join up.

It can lead to the immediate collapse of the new bozo house of cards and clear the swamp in one Herculean flushing! You may even be able to save Assange from martyrdom in the British dungeon.

What’s it to be Me Zuesse?

Dec 21, 2019 10:07 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

it’s probably all of the above. and bread and circuses, while the NDAA is renewed and an extra $200bn gets handed out to the Pentagram with nary a democrat farting in opposition.

are you not entertained?

George Cornell
George Cornell
Dec 20, 2019 6:12 PM

Thanks for this. It is surely complex and after all why shouldn’t Miss Vicki decide who should lead the Ukraine. And why should anyone begrudge the right of an exemplar sovereign state to deep six a prosecutor who went after criminal corruption? But even the incognoscenti can appreciate that Hunter Biden, the cokeheaded nitwit who was shoehorned into the Navy, by his fathers’ friends, was unable to forgo the coke till his urine got tested. His length of service could be measured in hours or days (how long does it take to get the urine test results) as he was immediately dishonourably discharged. Further, that he could not possibly provide service to Burisma that was not corrupt, simply because he had no demonstrable expertise in their affairs. Unless Biden Jr’s expertise in marital infidelity, fathering children out of wedlock with strippers, and spending his marital income on lap dancers and… Read more »