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US murders leading Iranian General Qassem Soleimani

The US govt has confirmed it deliberately targeted leading Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in its missile (some say drone) attack near Baghdad airport that killed 10 people, including Soleimani and leaders of the Iraqi Shia militia.

The Pentagon has made a public statement justifying the action as a ‘defensive’ act aimed at protecting US servicemen from future attacks, claiming the general was behind recent attacks on the US embassy in Baghdad and adding:

General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region

There’s no way this can be verified of course, and even if true, does not excuse what amounts to an extraordinary act of terrorism against a sovereign nation with whom no state of war existed.

The apparent craziness here is off the charts.

Quick recap. The most insane & deluded of the war-profiteers/sadists/mad ideologues have been begging for a move against Iran since around 2005. It’s the seventh and final country in Wes Clarke’s famous ‘seven countries in five years‘ story. But so far it has never been attacked directly by the US.

The reason for this is the realists in the Pentagon know they could easily lose that war.

Iran isn’t Iraq. Iran isn’t Syria. Iran is a wealthy, organized state, with a well-trained and fearsome military well capable of defending itself.

The non-crazies in the Pentagon know this and know a war with these people could end up wiping the US out in the Middle East, to say nothing of escalating wildly, up to and including direct confrontation with Russia, that has its own powerful reasons for not wanting to see Iran become a chaotic US vassal.

This is why, after fifteen years of talking the talk, no US administration has ever dared to actually walk the walk. The non-crazy generals have vetoed it, spelled out what a disaster it could become, made it clear the risks are not worth the gains.

So it always has been for 15 years – until now.

On the face of it the murder of Soleimani and the Pentagon statement of intent appears to be some kind of coup for the lunatics. Do the war-profiteers/sadists and ideologues who seem to have grabbed the initiative really understand what they have done?

Is Dominic Raab remotely cognizant of where his alleged rubber-stamping of Pompeo’s lunacy might lead? (Dom himself hasn’t verified Pompeo’s bombast yet, which may or may not be signficiant).

Let’s hope they are all privy to some important info we don’t have that means this is not the apocalyptic suicide bid it looks like.

Time will tell.

Meanwhile “WW3” is a trending hashtag on Twitter, which is a little premature perhaps, but sells the sense of horror and disbelief people are feeling. Here are some examples

Possibly significant and interesting take by blue tick John Simpson

Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, talking a certain amount of sense:

Keir Starmer, potential future leader of the Labour Party, is also not convinced:

Susan Sarandon retweeting Bernie. Did he actually oppose invasion of Iraq? But the sentiment is a good one

Lindsey Graham talking idiotic smack to the surprise of no one:

The Guardian being the Guardian…

And just, well, disturbing frankly…

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andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

We need to have a media outlet which can be trusted, to provide verifiable facts and not the half truths and lies.
Fact – Iraq is 70% Shia
Fact – the people murdered along with Sulemeini were members of the PMF – Popular Movement Front for Iraq, an Iraqi state sponsored group of militias controlled by ex PM Haider Al Abadi. The group comprising Shia, Sunni Christians and Yazidis were instrumental in destroying ISIL in Iraq from 2014 to 2018.
Both the US and Israeel have carried out attacks on the PMF over the past year.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Looks like the CIA only needs to embed an AL Agoodi to match wits with the Al Abadi leader.

MOU

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

This is looking like a win-win for Iran.

They just completed naval manoeuvres with China and Russia in the region – tightening the control of their waterways and weakening the 5th fleets – it is the future of the region along with BRI and the SCO. They are stronger together with the Eurasian partnerships and infrastructure, than going it alone with Iraq & Syria. The last thing they need is to lose sight of that strategy, there has been no knee jerk reaction… just a threat of revenge after 3 days.

The Al Quds are not their main defence force and the General was not the top man in Iran but he has built his reputation with mainly western type PR for a few years – a bit of a loose canon in the new new world order of the region?

Why now? Why not at anytime while he was organising the fight against the western and saudi run isil in Iraq and Syria? They are beat and been evacuated to Libya? He has traveled freely in the region.
There is certainly something fishy about the Baghdad Embassy event and the dead unnamed US mercenary as there is about the mass killings of the Iraqi forces and the Iraqi general killed at the same time. There is hardly anything about how the US operation was carried out – we usually get full colour graphics!

There is NO way the Saudis would risk what happened at their Oil facilities a few months ago or a return to the tanker wars …Bolton is out of the way. The asymmetric defence is impossible to defend against. Even with hundred thousands boots on the ground – which make even more targets.

Perhaps the rumour of Trump offering a quick deal may save face all round. Some other unamed ‘contractors’ may be declared killed and Trump may be delivered his Peace in time to nail his relection.

Maybe, maybe … the crazies have finally been bottled… fingers crossed.

That is about as optimistic an angle I am finding having slept on it and finding a few more mysteriously attacked militias IN Iraq.

Anyway, where’s that Durham report?
How is the liberation of Idlib going?
Is Australasia over as a dream escape spot?
Will we level the test series?

Stay cool, laugh, keep the vision a sharp 2020…

Estaugh
Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Thanks but … No name. No details of the ‘mercenary’.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Australia is OVER, full stop. 2100 has arrived, a little premature. The albatross in the coal-mine.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

Can someone settle an argument: my friend says the west is exempt from international law, but I say we need a genuine reason such as WMD or 9/11 before we can start another killing spree.

As an aside many in the west can’t see a problem with Donald Trumps claim that murdering someone will start, sorry, I meant stop WWIII – doesn’t this prove how civilised we are?

GEOFF
GEOFF

I think you may need another friend !

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Or he could change his definition of a friend to include stupid people, eh.

MOU

GEOFF
GEOFF

Obama inherited Bush’s widespread use of drone killings and increased their frequency tenfold, while seeking to give them a veneer of legal respectability with the secret internal “targeted killing memos”. Those documents argued that drone assassinations were justified under international law as self-defense against future terrorist attacks – a rationale that has been widely disputed as a misreading of the UN charter.

“Since Obama there has been a steady dilution of international law,” O’Connell said. “Suleimani’s death marks the next dilution – we are moving down a slope towards a completely lawless situation.”

O’Connell added that there was only one step left for the US now to take. “To completely ignore the law. Frankly, I think President Trump is there already – his only argument has been that Suleimani was a bad guy and so he had to be killed.”

Topics don’t know if that helps to lea it up ( from the Guardian )

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Whatever happened to ‘The Rules-Based International Order’? What are our local political and MSM grovelers to The Empire going to robotically repeat when smearing China or Russia, if it no longer applies-as if it ever did?

GEOFF
GEOFF

They’re a law to themselves aren’t they, people need to hit the streets world wide and expose warmongering yankee land for what it is, EVIL and all the countries that have American bases there should be told to dismantle the lot and leave, but for whatever reason they won’t do it will they. Iran , not fort a war of aggression in over two hundred years, and offer no threat to anyone, who the hell are the yanks to dictate who can have what, the most evil race on the planet.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

It merely indicates how really uneducated & myopic your friend is, and sociologically does not speak well for your choice of friends either. I think you would be better off talking to a mirror instead of your friend when you are not on social media talking to us.

And Trump is a warmonger or he would not be allowed in the White House of mass murderers that preceded him. And to be a warmonger one must also be a Psychopath that the CIA supports or you won’t make it to the helm.

MOU

andyoldlabour
andyoldlabour

Your friend is probably referring to the “Hague Invasion Act”, which was drawn up by George W Bush in 2002 – American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002 – which states – “The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague.”
So, basically yes, that makes them exempt from international law.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

As Chico Marx said, ‘You only think he’s your friend’.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

My bad-it was Groucho.

paul
paul

Hopefully we will be seeing a lot of dead Americans in the very near future.
These weasels like to dish it out but they squeal like babies when they are on the receiving end.
Any American found anywhere from Morocco to Indonesia should expect to be treated as a terrorist or a spy and dealt with accordingly.

One very minor result of this could be the end of Trump, with him becoming politically dead like another Dubya or Blair Mark 2.

WW3, the destruction of western power in the Middle East, global depression, and a few other side issues.

Estompista
Estompista

No doubt, you’ll continue to squeal like a pig that Americans are “untraveled” and “ignorant about the world” when they decide to stay at home.

MLS
MLS

Hopefully we will be seeing a lot of dead Americans in the very near future.

You want ordinary people in America dead? You want clueless 17-year old military grunts who signed up as a way out of poverty dead?

What’s wrong with you? I’m reporting this to Admin. It’s fucking hate speech.

And you’re also that demented racist, who used to call himself ‘Mark’ aren’t you?

paul
paul

Grass.

paul
paul

I save my sympathy for the hundreds of millions across the planet who have been butchered, starved, and terrorised for decades. The 500,000 dead children under 5 in Iraq. The children who are dying in Syria, Venezuela, Palestine, DPRK and Iran.

The Americans can burn in hell so far as I am concerned. Every last one of them. I celebrate the death of every American. Death to America.

Maggie
Maggie

Paul,
I think you may have missed the point that Trump, Dubya, Blair, Johnson were/are simply glove puppets, who are there to distract and entertain you, to prevent you seeing the actual puppet masters.
They read their lines and ‘play’ their part.. and when they have fulfilled their purpose and are reviled for fomenting ‘another war’/regime change in order to fill the pockets of their masters, they are/will be consigned to the scrap heap to make way for another puppet.
The joke is on us for voting for them, as if life depended on it. Regardless of what we do or say, they will complete their plan.

Gezzah Potts

An Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander has just made a statement that ’35 United States targets in the Middle East as well as Tel Aviv are within range of an Iranian response’.
As well, a Hezbollah parliamentarian has made a statement that a ‘decisive response will be made in the coming days’ as reported at Sputnik News International.

Estompista
Estompista

Iran isn’t going to do anything other than blow some hot air, maybe fire a couple of missiles into the desert, and hold some rallies.

Gezzah Potts

I wish you were right E, but the situation is a lot worse than ‘holding a few rallies’.
Iran is deadly serious about exacting revenge. When they say something, you can bet your house they will follow thru on it.
They may bide their time – it could be a week or it could be a few months.
But its gonna happen.

paul
paul

I wouldn’t bet the farm on that if I was you, E.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh

Commenters below have touched on this, and I’ve said this a few times myself that we should question things on different levels. Not just the minutia of certain issues but also the larger, wider geopolitics that could be at play here. I obviously include the Iran incident/s here too.

The establishment/MSM heavily publicise certain cherry-picked issues/subjects/incidents and frame it/them in a particular way. Also, the swathes of sock-puppets, shills and paid trolls on that undoubtedly target comments forums (many paid for by establishment groups) play their propaganda role. Surely, we mustn’t lose sight of the fact that everything heavily promoted in the mainstream and gate-keeping ‘alternative’ sites has many purposes behind it not just the obvious, in-you-face one/s. Shouldn’t we be wary of the first reactions. They are counting on a reflex reaction from the general public (and/or reaction they want from any opposition group if there is one targetted e.g. Iran)?

Everything plastered in the mainstream must surely be part of the theatre to try to gain a ‘hidden consent’ from the public in order for the establishment to pursue their long-held plans (even though we, the public, are not directly asked, but our so-called representatives who on the whole work for the establishment do the bidding). To be clear, many blood-thirsty things may be real (like the deaths in 9/11), and many may well not be real (like some say the Sandy Hook deaths are not real, I personally haven’t come to any conclusions yet) – but all of it used for the theatre and used to push the agenda of world governance? Incrementally, all these ‘plays’ will inch us slowly (or in some cases not so slowly) towards their ultimate goal and the public will lose more and more of our rights, laws and freedoms so they finally gain their full-spectrum dominance of the whole Earth?

People may or may not agree, but the above should not be ruled out hastily without reflection? Complete global governance is their ultimate goal?

Anyway, just a reminder to look behind the veil – my tiny warble among the other warblings in this ancient marshy forest that is the commenter-aether (Tallis Marsh).

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Manufacturing consent [see Chomsky] is mere propaganda couched in words & pictures and formatted by the Central Intelligence Agency analysts & script writers that work Mass Communications.

Americans can make shit up on the fly but sooner or later empirical rule always catches up to their ignorant ways and reveals them to be the simpletons they really are.

My God is an empirical God.

MOU

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh

Interesting. Your comment is phrased in a way that implies that America is the sole pusher of propaganda?

Glad you brought up the CIA. What is the history behind the CIA; who actually founded it? What roles and evolution has the CIA been subjected to; infiltrated with? What global allies/offshoots work hand-in-hand with it? Why do such organisations like the CIA, MI5/6, Mossad, etc (and other even more secret networks e.gs: the top, powerful Freemasons: secret society within the secret society; the global sayanim network that aids Mossad; and probably more…) have so much power behind the scenes and even seem to be king-makers? We cannot dismiss nor ridicule the fact that this malign secret force is still present in our societies, and more than that is one of the most powerful machines in our world today. In context of what you wrote, they have a humongous part to play in propaganda and subversion.

I agree with what JFK said:

“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings…Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe…no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent…For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.”

― John F. Kennedy

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

John F. Kennedy was raised by an unscrupulous bootlegger & secret bootlicker of Murder Incorporated. He is one dead mofo pontificate that talked smack and wound up taking a dirt nap for posterity sake. His kid brother was equally hoisted on Kennedy petards.

My great grandfather was a Mason in a secret society. I am related to Sir Isaac Newton via my grandmother’s side and he was a secret society Mason too. I’m actually much higher up in terms of secret societies than the highest of Masons in the entire world.

Secrets are tools, and like all good mechanics I don’t lend my tools out.

I will say that I am a good caring person with worlds of empathy for all human beings & life itself.

P.S. Sorry about that MIC thingy & the Wall Street thingy but I could not help myself.

MOU

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh

Eh? I’m confused by your reply. What sort of answer is that?

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

You are asking an Intelligence guy about secret societies which is not exactly comfortable subject matter for a person like moi, eh.

My reply was meant to instill confusion as that’s how evasion works, man.

Suffice to say that I agree with your points raised but not without serious reservations given that I too am reasonably well connected to the secret echelons of power that you are making inquiries about.

Covert Intelligence is never really openly discussed seriously in open forum Internet Social Media groups.

MOU

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh

lol

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Our resident School of Business Economist said that ‘lol’ should be decommissioned for 2020 as it is worn out now on Internet.

Get hip, man.

MOU

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

The CIA is just the Gestapo for the USA’s ruling class. Like MI6 is for the UK’s elite etc. The Deep State is just The Establishment-it’s hardly hidden.

Frank
Frank

The CIA is the Rothschilds’ private army.

Frank
Frank

Kennedy wasn’t talking about what you’ve convinced yourself he was talking about.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee

It seems that the US state is now a criminal mafia controlled cabal in both theory and practice. Or perhaps an entity controlled by the Mafia/Zionist death cult. It is totalitarianism of the 21st century. It operates completely outside of the law and there are no depths of violence and mayhem that it wouldn’t and does not engage in order to achieve its ends. It rules by terror, violence and intimidation. It’s vassals – NATO – is a protection racket ready to jump when the mafia boss pulls the strings. The assassination of Soleimani was a classical mafia hit ordered by the Godfather in mafia land. No country in the world – apart from one or two, name your own – can feel safe and sovereign in the presence of this roving megalomaniac. The world can no longer accommodate to this loose cannon and hope to survive.

paul
paul

You gotta pay us! You gotta pay us!! You gotta pay us for your protection!!!

Faulty USA
Faulty USA

“the US state is now a criminal mafia controlled cabal”
Not only now. It has always been. Look at this:

The average American school curriculum likely doesn’t feature the fact that the U.S. waged a war from 1899 to 1913 in the southernmost island of the Philippines. Known as the Moro War, it was the longest sustained military campaign in American history until the war in Afghanistan surpassed it a few years ago. As a result, the U.S. and the Philippine governments are still embroiled in a battle with Islamist insurgents in the southern Philippines, which takes the meaning of “forever war” to a whole new level.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-mans-burden-us-has-been-fighting-forever-wars-against-muslims-120-years

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Yes, it is a death-cult. Killing is central to Talmudic Judaism, and its secular off-growths like Zionism, and also the various ‘Christian’ cults that rule in the USA. And they possess an eschatological lust for Universal destruction in the End Times, where a real pornography of horror infests the psyches of The Elect as the imagine and plot the horrors to be inflicted on the ungodly, the heathens, the fallen, the gays, the adulterers, the idolators etc. A real encyclopaedia of victims, to suffer ETERNAL punishment. The farkers are pure Evil, posing as ultimate Good. This is the way the world ends.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

I don’t know who this ‘Ala Akbar’ dude is but when he shouts ‘death to America’ it’s starting to sound like a good idea. And heck, they are my next door neighbours too.

NOTE: Dear Mr. Akbar, Please leave Chicago intact as that is home to Gene Krupa & the Slingerland Drum Company, plus the BIG Band era.

MOU

Peter
Peter

I just hope that this is not a Sarajevo moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand

Were will Russia and China stand if things go T##t’s up?

Yes, Iran said that they will retaliate [in their own time] as they say revenge is a dish best served cold.

Vivian J
Vivian J

Indeed Peter, let’s hope not.

However, don’t give any credence to the Sarajevo assassination as the ’cause’ of WWI. It was a catalyst of sorts, but that particular conflict (or more accurately, blood sacrifice on a massive scale) was a long time in the planning by the Rothschild-backed Milner Group (Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor’s ‘Hidden History’ will give you the background on that one, and is highly recommended).

Nothing much changes does it?

tfs
tfs

Another day and more talk.
Another day and more deaths.
Another day and SpartUSA is left to ply the Imperial trade of Death.

You all have the tools to challenge this Death Cult built on the mantra ‘War is a Racket’

Boycott SpartUSA……ITS THAT EASY.

Tomorrow and the day after, I predict, more talking.

Antonym
Antonym

The Anglo’s are favoring Sunni Muslims since long time:

Yes, planning for Operation Gulmarg started way back in 1943. The British were certain Kashmir would go to Pakistan  and pulled out all the stops in advance to ensure this.

https://conradcourier.com/how-the-british-schemed-to-give-kashmir-to-pakistan/24103.html

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Whereas the Zionists prefer setting all sides at each others’ throats, as they did in Lebanon during the Civil War, or when they promoted Hamas to oppose the PLO, or the terrorist death-squad South Lebanese Army to attack Hezbollah etc, or al-Nusra Front, in particular, during the salafist attack on Syria. Not to forget the partition of Sudan, a long-term Zionist project.

Antonym
Antonym

The Australian-born Major-General Robert “Bill” Cawthome, once a British Army officer who had later joined the Pakistan Army, remains the longest-serving Director General of the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI) for over nine years from 1950 to 1959.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/print/526965-maj-gen-robert-cawthome-was-the-longest-serving-isi-chief

Jack_Garbo
Jack_Garbo

I don’t buy it, without real proof. The bloody hand with a similar ring isn’t enough. Soleimani is a master strategist and tactician, his intelligence service is way better than the Americans’. I don’t see him, with another high ranking official, in the same vehicle, exposed to attack. Too careless for a very careful man.
So, Iranian false flag trick? Leak a fake rendez-vous, hide their VIG Soleimani for the next operation, divert Iranian public anger outward at the US, unite Iraqi and Iranian resistance against the US? Sounds more believable. Let’s see…

GEOFF
GEOFF

Just read this for what it’s worth from John Helmer : The Russian General Staff has reinforced the air defences for Russians at the Iranian nuclear reactor complex at Bushehr, on the Persian Gulf, according to sources in Moscow. At the same time, Iran has allowed filming of the movement of several of its mobile S-300 air-defence missile batteries to the south, covering the Iranian coastline of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. More secretly, elements of Russian military intelligence, electronic warfare, and command and control advisers for Iran’s air defence systems have been mobilized to support Iran against US and allied attacks.

The range of the new surveillance extends well beyond the S-300 strike distance of 200 kilometres, and covers US drone and aircraft bases on the Arabian peninsula, as well as US warships in (and under) the Persian Gulf and off the Gulf of Oman. Early warning of US air and naval-launched attacks has now been cut below the old 4 to 6-minute Iranian threshold. Counter-firing by the Iranian armed forces has been automated from attack warning and target location.

This means that if the US is detected launching a swarm of missiles aimed at Iran’s air-defence sites, uranium mines, reactors, and military operations bunkers, Iran will launch its own swarm of missiles at the US firing platforms, as well as at Saudi and other oil production sites, refineries, and pipelines, as well tankers in ports and under way in the Gulf.

“The armed forces of Iran,” said a Russian military source requesting anonymity, “have air defence systems capable of hitting air targets at those heights at which drones of the Global Hawk series can fly; this is about 19,000 to 20,000 metres. Iran’s means of air defence are both foreign-purchased systems and systems of Iran’s own design; among them, in particular, the old Soviet system S-75 and the new Russian S-300. Recently, Iran transported some S-300’s to the south, but that happened after the drone was shot down [June 20]. Russian specialists are working at Bushehr now and this means that the S-300’s are also for protection of Bushehr.”

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc

It seems to me, that no-one I know, noticed any news whatsoever today, nor showed the slightest interest, when I tried to mention it. So www 3 is extremely unlikely, cos no one gives a sh1t. So I reckon its best to ignore it. They will go back into their holes. propaganda too much – like when you couldn’t stand mustang sally again 10 years ago, and for a special occasion they do it again, and you still think its a crap song, but join in cos its a party, and to be polite, but you can’t stand it for a 3rd time, well past its 2nd death.

Can our Leaders please start making sense. That is what we employ you for. To represent our best interests – not yours. You volunteered for the job, so now you have got it, do what we elected you and told you to do.

That is Your Job. You are a Member of Parliament now.

We elected you.

Please Get on with it.

Do your Job.

Thanks.

Tony

Estompista
Estompista

So, how are the “give Trump a chance” brigade at Off-G feeling right about now?

TFS
TFS

Feeling good that Trump got a chance, must admit.

Still waiting for when he’s actually worse than Obama, cause that one was sure slick with words; a gift for the masses.

One thing is for sure though, we’d have already been at this point a long time ago with Hillary in power.

tunde

Well, he’s droned more people so far than Obama did in 8 yrs. You can start there.

TFS
TFS

Trumps drone kill rate vs Obamas?

Let me know when the current eejut in office has killed more people than Obama I’ll act like I care.

Estompista
Estompista

Your edgy response is worthless yet illustrative because it’s precisely in line with the archetypal Trumpian meathead.

TFS
TFS

Well I disklike Trump. But I disklike him less the Hillary and Obama and I gotta be honest, the Dems are the laughing stock.

At some point Trump may eclipse Obama/Hillary in their crimes, and then I will disklike him more the Obama/Hillary.

Until that day, I wear the moniker of ‘Trumpian Meathead’, along with others I have levelled upon me, like ‘Putin Apologist’, ‘Assad Apologist’, ‘Racist’, ‘Anti-Semite of the Type 2 variety’, ‘Communist’, by people proudly advertising their lack of intellect.

tunde

Certainly quiet aren’t they ? Been hearing on here for years that DJT not as bad as ‘x’ because he hates “NATO, Merkel, HC, regime change, globalisation, neo-libs”…..
DJT conned them all.
Not to worry. The reply will be HC would have started WW3 sooner. Take heart.

Estompista
Estompista

Iran isn’t going to do shit.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

I bet you do shit, though.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

Iran isn’t going to do shit.

Seems like it has already started to do shit. Shit out of prophecy, are we?

Antonym
Antonym

Sorry, was Qassem Soleimani some kind of saint? Did he never organize any mass suicide bombing/ assassination of an opponent in Irak, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon or elsewhere?

Going against Sunni Arab KSA was kind of natural for a Persian Shia, working against Israel was good for brownie points among Muslims and Western Leftovers but ultimately dumb.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Compared to Netanyahu, Sharon, Shamir, Begin, Peres, Rabin etc, yes he was a veritable saint.

Ricsi
Ricsi

add Cheney,Blair,Clinton etc….

paul
paul

Working against Israel is a natural reaction for any Iranian who doesn’t want to see his country destroyed by Zionist terrorism, chicanery, lies and intrigue, with their US butt goys providing the money and the dumb muscle.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Iran, quite correctly in my opinion, differentiates between Jews, and Zionism, which is Nazism for Jews.

iskratov
iskratov

Max Blumenthal on twitter ”Who ever said Soleimani was some peacenik? He was the mastermind of a grueling protracted fight that helped prevent Iraq & Syria from falling to the Salafi-jihadi forces unleashed by the US & its regional allies. And he kept up pressure to the end. That’s why he was targeted.”

paul
paul

Soleimani was a real hero.
A senior officer who fought right up on the front line with his men for years.
A skilful strategist who smashed ISIS after it was created by its Zionist and Washington handlers.
Trump isn’t fit to lick his boots.
Neither are you, Shlomo.

tunde

Trump has had years to drone Soulemani. QS’ morale visits to the frontlines in Syria and Iraq were extensively documented on social media by Iranian proxies and allies. No doubt Israel noticed them as well but passed on striking at him.
My only conclusion is to Trump’s rationale is to speculate that Trump calculates Iranian backlash is limited and a double win for him; In rallying support around the flag for electoral purposes (what impeachment?) and providing a causus belli for a range of punishing strikes across a wide variety of targets across Iran. The economic toll on Iran would be crushing on top of the sanctions. Trump’s khaki election gambit ?

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

When a corporation such as the United States of America falls into debt to the tune of $23 trillion USD heading into certain long term recessionary headwinds they have no alternative but to start bombing antiquated economically challenged countries that are struggling to survive. This allows the American bullies to feel empowered & respected through fear of their mass text book Psychopathology that they peddle to the populations for purposes of creating unease & fear, or terror, whatever the case may be.

The Central Intelligence Agency has been doing this sort of regime change gig forever where they first utilize Economic Hit Men to entice leadership to acquiesce to CIA demands. If the Economic Hit Men fail the mission the jackals are sent in to assassinate. If assassination fails & Economic Hit Men fail, it falls to the generals & war planners in the bureaucracy.

The end game superordinate goal for all Americans in the mix of state is to murder the competition even if it means destroying entire regions of the world to do it.

And never forget the Queen of Mean stating that ‘only the little people pay taxes’. Believe me when I state that Leona Helmsley would push you down a flight of stairs in a wheelchair if you were an invalid much like Richard Widmark did in The Kiss of Death.

Warmongers ain’t benevolent & Charley don’t surf.

MOU

MLS
MLS

Did you not read the article, or any other informed analyst such as the Saker?

You’re backhandedly buying the myth of US omnipotence.

The reason the US has never attacked Iran even tho it has been wanting to do so for decades is because it knows it could lose big time & empires like to avoid wars with dangerous opponents.

War on Iran would be very very different from war on Iraq or Syria. It will be serious, bloody and the US could end up kicked out of the Middle East.

If that looks likely it will of course use tactical or strategic nukes and any other advanced weapons. This will drag Russia in because it can’t afford in any circumstances for Iran to fall. The rest will be silence.

Wake up. The US are absolutely not just doing the same old same old. This is a whole new and insane ballgame.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

The United States of America is the BORG of debt. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated or Americans will die. Americans don’t like death on their turf which is why the export death to the third world that can’t fight back.

Americans are tyrants & bullies. Time to water the tree of Liberty with the blood of patriots & tyrants, man.

MOU

paul
paul

Yes, it’ll just be another cakewalk.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

It goes awry if Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz or obliterates Saudi oil production.

MLS
MLS

It ‘goes awry’ the minute the first shot is fired. It will be a shit show like nothing seen since WW2.

paul
paul

They could just close it to US ships.

Gezzah Potts

What the United States has done is completely insanity. And for Pompeo to be tweeting that the United States ‘is committed to de-escalation’ is cloud cuckoo land stuff.
I’ve been following this on various other sites as well. Iran is officially in mourning, and after that is completed, they will respond
We will soon find out what that response is.
We now face the very strong likelihood of a cataclysmic war in the Middle East.
This is an incredibly dangerous situation.
My gut feeling is this is also the beginning of the end for this truly evil, parasitical Empire.
They cannot see the consequences of what they have done with this act of terrorism.
They are fully blinded by their sheer arrogance and hubris.

Ricsi
Ricsi

Iran should find away to take out Pompeo,tit for tat,then say “okay Trump lets talk lick men not cowards hiddind behind dromes and twitter”.

Ricsi
Ricsi

Sorry,typed too fast 🙂 a way ,like,hidding 🙂

Gezzah Potts

I think of all the deranged, raving, frothing, fascist thugs in Washington; of which Pompeo is right at the top of the list.
I’m also thinking Iran will carefully choose something that will really hurt the Evil Empire. Like being evicted from Iraq maybe?
We’ll soon find out Ricsi.

GEOFF
GEOFF

I only hope you are right

Gezzah Potts

Many hundreds of millions all around the world hope for the same thing Geoff. Especially in the Middle East and South America.
You just never hear their (our) opinions in the presstitute media.
I hope it ends with more of a whimper than a loud explosion. Sadly, that’s probably wishful thinking.
Too many human beings have already died as a result of the Empire’s actions – Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Venezuela, on and on.

RobG

I can’t back this up with any links, so all I can say is that I’m hearing murmurs that the Iranians have now told the Americans to pull all of their warships out of Middle Eastern waters by this time next week, otherwise American warships will be attacked and sunk.

The Iranians are quite capable of doing this in the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz and the Oman Gulf (which 35% of the world’s tanker oil moves through). Iranian missiles can also quite easily hit Saudi oil fields. Who’s going to buy shares in ARAMCO? The price of oil is already going through the roof. How much do you want to pay to fill up your vehicle? or do you believe all the MSM bullshit about twerrorists?

Anyhows, this is still all just rumour at the moment; but if it’s true it’s a very smart move by the Iranians.

Gezzah Potts

I was going to reply to your other comment, but breaking news that the United States has launched more airstrikes in Iraq apparently killing 6 Shia militia leaders.
Pompeo is a raving liar and lunatic.
If this news is true, the bastards want war.
More insane provocations.
Just about to check some sources to verify this. Yes, I commented to you first before I checked…
Buckle up, things are getting very rocky.

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Americans have wanted control over the entire Gulf of Oman since before I was born.
The Gulf of Oman oil fields are the best in the entire world for really top grade oils. It’s a massive oil field.

Americans are corporate pirates not unlike fiction. Brig Gen Smedley Butler bragged of having more territory than Al Capone. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson owns Al Capones old gun that he purchased at auction.

MOU

Peter
Peter

Brig Gen Smedley Butler ” War is a Racket”

Francis Lee
Francis Lee

That $23 trillion is just the debt of the Federal Government. Factor in private debt of households, corporations, car/student loans, financial and unfunded future debt, social security, pensions, medicare, etc and that figures balloon into 5 to 10 times that figure.

paul
paul

The best estimate is around $250 trillion, or around $750,000 per head.

JudyJ
JudyJ

For information – RT News has just reported that they are receiving reports that the US have attacked another vehicle convoy just north of Baghdad. They have no more details at present.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

It’s just Bibi and his pet goy appealing to their ‘bases’. Killing is their religion, quite literally.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Reports now say that convoy was attacked by an airstrike at 1 a.m. local time, 6 Iranian backed Shia militia leaders killed and 5 others injured. As a US peace activist just said on RT, ‘this attack is on local Iraqis who have been fighting against ISIL and are on their home territory; and such attacks are totally inexcusable’.

Gezzah Potts

Thanks Judy. Just heard that news over at The Saker and was about to check, but you confirmed this.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
And they’re like a chimpanzee playing with a live grenade inside a small room.
And the Chimps between you and the door.
This is fecken madness.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

How prophetic of myself to have foreseen the end of my online commenting for all the wrong reasons. Can’t take all the shit anymore. It is indeed like the 80’s Fun Boy Three hit “The lunatics have taken over the asylum” and the meds have run out a few weeks ago.

Nobody has even the slightest idea what is unfolding now. To that end, I will state it once more:

How long is the window of opportunity open for those who attempt a global takeover? Will they allow Russia and China to get even more advanced weaponry?

No. It is ‘now or never again’ and they are going for it. Either in utter derangement, or infinite stupidity, the people behind this takeover do believe that they can win WW3 and after some cleanup enjoy their United States of Earth.

On the other hand, what if some folks studied STUXNET and are now preparing a number of NPP in the West to shut off their cooling pumps and generators. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? This time although, it will be Karma for all the shit the West has done to the people of the Near/Middle/Far East.

Gezzah Potts

N… Tried to reply to you and another commenter numerous times today, but something very weird going on with my phone – my comments wouldn’t post at all. Will try again.
There are many times I get really over this shit as well, and for my own mental wellbeing, need to step back, and take a break from commenting for a few days or even a week.
On top of that, we have dropkick trolls here who are probably paid.
I agree with your comment, btw.
I am waiting to see what Iran’s response will be. Lots of conjecture on numerous sites, lots of rumours, but we know one thing for certain: Iran will respond to this act of terrorism by the World’s biggest terrorist state.
And earlier today, the United States launched another airstrike on a PMU convoy in Iraq, killing 6 medics.
Complete madness. We are right at the edge of the abyss.
I also agree with you that these Neocon wackjobs want full spectrum dominance of the entire Planet. Regardless of how many people die.
I even saw someone (think at Moon Of Alabama?) pose the thought that the Neocons may kill Trump, and pin the blame on Iran.
I don’t know what else to say to you N.
If you’re near a beach or a park, go and take in the natural beauty in front of you. Music helps me also.
Take care….

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Today some Iranian worthy declared that ordinary Westerners would not be targeted in Iran’s revenge. On the other hand, Trump promises to destroy Iranian cultural sites, a war crime, including the threat. It is pretty easy to see just who is Good and who Evil, isn’t it?

Gezzah Potts

I just sent a reply to you from your comment yesterday just then as this comment of yours arrived. Synchronicity!
Have been regularly following updates on Southfront, The Saker, Sputnik News and Moon Of Alabama.
The momentum is picking up steam. Jesus, only the most brain dead, brainwashed and ideological empire zombies Can’t see what is going on here. They are rooting for possible World War…

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

The USA created Daash, as they did al-Qaeda, along with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf despotisms and Israel, so they are bound to act ‘kinetically’ to assure that it is revitalised in Iraq, to attack Central Asia and the BRI.