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Soleimani murder: developing narrative

Catte Black

Mourners surround a car carrying the coffins of Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani and Iraqi paramilitary chief Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, killed in a US air strike. (Photo by SABAH ARAR / AFP)

The dust is settling somewhat over the latest and strangest act of imperial hubris in the Middle East, and a few things are becoming clearer – though no less strange.

Trump held a slightly bizarre presser at his vacation resort in Florida, wherein he tried to assure the media he had no wish to provoke either war with or regime change in Iran, saying

We took action last night to stop a war. We do not take action to start a war.”

Even the slavering warhound, Pompeo was taking a more conciliatory tone, and the word ‘de-escalation’ began featuring prominently in his Twitter feed.

UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, is also urging “all parties de-escalate” – for what that’s worth.

At the same time early claims by the Iraqi Popular Mobilisation Force (PMF) that the US had launched another air strike against them north of Baghdad were later retracted. According to RT:

The Iraqi Army, however, later denied that an airstrike took place there. In a statement quoted by local media, the military urged everyone to be “careful” about spreading unverified information and “rumors” in the future.

Some of this implies an attempt on both sides (Iraq and the US at least) to pull back. But while this may be welcome it does nothing to explain why the US administration escalated in the first place, in what still looks like a suicidally self-defeating move.

What is the empire up to at this point? Does it have a plan? is it coherent? is it even sane?

The Saker took a look yesterday at The Soleimani murder – what could happen next . He thinks, as he has said before, that Trump is regarded as a disposable asset by his Deep State handlers and is being used as a front man for risky policy actions that he can be scapegoated for if/when they go wrong:

I have always claimed that Donald Trump is a “disposable President” for the Neocons. What do I mean by that? I mean that the Neocons have used Trump to do all sorts of truly fantastically dumb things (pretty much ALL his policy decisions towards Israel and/or Syria) for a very simple reason. If Trump does something extremely dumb and dangerous, he will either get away with it, in which case the Neocons will be happy, or he will either fail or the consequences of his decisions will be catastrophic, at which point the Neocons will jettison him and replace him by an even more subservient individual (say Pence or Pelosi). In other words, for the Neocons to have Trump do something both fantastically dangerous and fantastically stupid is a win-win situation!

I tend to agree with this. When Clinton was dumped last minute as POTUS (too crazy, too weird), and the Deep State pivoted to Trump, it was clear from very early on he – the unwanted outsider – was going to be used just as Saker says, as a handy scapegoat; and it’s interesting to note in this regard that he is indeed being blamed in many places today (Spiked, the Guardian etc), as the sole architect of the Soleimani murder.

That he is in any way solely, or even directly, responsible is of course vanishingly improbable. US presidents don’t, in real terms, have that kind of power now, if they ever did. It’s far more likely Trump just rubber stamped an action urged by Pompeo and his war-crazed backers, or even that he only knew about it after it was done.

But that’s just detail. The fact Trump is being scapegoated implies that – at least for now – those really responsible are backtracking and thinking better of the venture.

But what was the venture? What the desired outcome? No one seems to have a very satisfactory answer to that right now.

As we said yesterday, war with Iran has been the auto-erotic fixation for the hardcore war nuts in Washington for years, and imminent confrontation has been predicted regularly since at least 2005.

But it’s never become a reality because the non-crazies in Washington know the risks outweigh the benefits for US interests.

Sure, we know in recent times the Trump administration has been ramping up the tensions again. Tearing up the nuclear deal, re-imposing sanctions, sabre-rattling, making threats. But this has all been within the familiar framework that always just stops short of actual conflict.

The murder of Soleimani is orders of magnitude beyond anything they have ever risked before. Good analysts like the Saker and Moon of Alabama have pointed out that the US has basically defeated its own aims, all but destroyed itself in the region. In MoA’s words:

The U.S. has won nothing with its attack but will feel the consequences for decades to come. From now on its position in the Middle East will be severely constrained. Others will move in to take its place.

Even if this turns out too dire and sweeping a prediction, the truth still is clear that the US have apparently gained nothing from this venture and lost a great deal.

Of course both the US and Israel now have carte blanche to stage as much false flag ‘terrorism’ as they want and blame it on Iranian ‘revenge’. Whatever else happens, we can almost certainly look forward to some of that.

And, there is the bonus of being able to drive the US homeland even further toward fascism in the guise of ‘preparing’ for new waves of terror attacks. The Mayor of New York is already doing his own narrative preparation for this, claiming, per the Jerusalem Post that

We have to assume this action puts us in a de facto state of war

But all this seems small gains for massive losses. The question ‘what were you thinking?’ hangs there, currently unanswered. If this was clever geopolitical chess it’s currently so deep as to defeat all analysis.

Claims that the US is just doing Israel’s bidding don’t even cut it. If the US loses its hold on the ME as a result of an ill-judged war with Iran, how will this benefit Israel? Does it believe it can inherit the imperial mantle? If so, it’s deluded. Without US protection Israel would not last long in its current form.

Some have suggested it’s a ‘clever’ plot to hike up oil prices. But really? There are much lower risk ways of doing that than launching a war and forcing Iran to close the Straits of Hormuz.

The QAnon crowd have even suggested it’s an ultra smart way of getting the US out of Iraq. Well, we have to admit that could be the result. But does anyone really believe that was the plan?

No one has yet, to my knowledge, put out the US simply goofed and are now desperately trying to cover themselves – but that is at least as likely as some of the above.

The major question really though is – will this backtracking and odd claims of wanting de-escalation actually do anything to de-escalate? Will it persuade Iran not to seek retaliation, supposing this is now what Pompeo et al want?

Currently the answer to that looks like a ‘no.’ In fact Iran has just now issued a list of potential retaliation targets related to the US. Even if this is mostly posturing, it’s hard to see how Iran can avoid some form of response to this heinous act of frank terrorism. Even if the US administration’s ‘de-escalation’ stance is genuine, it may well be pointless.

And how long will the US remain in a ‘de-escalation’ mindset anyhow? It’s become a commonplace to describe US foreign policy as ‘insane’, and it’s an apposite description. But the murder of Soleimani takes the evident insanity to new and self-defeating levels.

Who can say what the empire’s next moves will be in the coming days or weeks? More utterly lunatic ‘defensive’ missile strikes are entirely possible.

And at that point all bets will be off.

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Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

Without US protection Israel would not last long in its current form.

Bring it on.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc

“President Trump ordered a drone-fired Hellfire missile strike on the car of Iranian Commander Qassem Suleimani, seen burning here outside the Baghdad Airport in Iraq”

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This published photo, in my view looks absolutely nothing like a car on fire, after it has been hit by a missile. It looks like a bonfire of rubbish, somewhat taller than a car. I can see absolutely no car like features whatseover. Yet I have also seen a photo of the hand of the man, complete with ring, who we are told was in the car, when it was hit.

I think they are making it up. Well at least the photography. For all I know, he may well be dead, but the photography does not make any sense.

Most people will not look at such photography, because they do not like to see blood and gore. I can understand that, but there is no evidence of any blood and gore in the photography. It just looks like a bonfire of old rubbish.

Tony

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin

Yet I have also seen a photo of the hand of the man, complete with ring, who we are told was in the car, when it was hit.

I used my ruler on that photo. One of the fingers is obviously shorter than the others.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Cultural targets of the USA?
Oh there are plenty in all the MIC states and Private Zcia towns, power plants, universities and ‘entertainment’ hubs. The place is just one big walking talking ‘kick my butt’ spelling failure goof.

Hell every coke machine and MaccyD in the world is a cultural target, every Apple store and Google and Amazon warehouse … when your culture is money and shares…you is screwed!

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

I was going to say the Twin Towers but America has already blown them up.

When it comes to devastation ISIS lag well behind the civil vandalism inflicted by indiscriminate use of British and American military hardware.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/syria-us-led-coalitions-aerial-attacks-raqqa-killed-hundreds-civilians-new-report

Precision strikes, my arse as Jim Royle might say.

paul
paul

How about Trump Tower and Mar o Largo.

Dr. Gonzo
Dr. Gonzo

Just a thought, for y’all with the possibility of researching it. Can it be Russian infiltration through trump or any other ways, and actually an action that will benefit russia, syria and iran?

Antonym
Antonym

This is what the Ayatollah regime did with 30,000 Lefty Iranian dissenters in summer 1988: mass executions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners

Sure, they fought Al Qaida and ISIS, other cults of sociopaths with a different variety of Islamic religious legalization. They did threat women better and had similar uniforms on.

jay
jay

ISIS and Al Q = CIA.

paul
paul

ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.
Like the Libyan branch with its Mossad boss.

Antonym
Antonym

Possibly, but the idiots who joined both groups were motivated by Islamism as ideology. For the many sex maniacs and sociopaths among them that was the legal cover for their atrocities. They took money believing it to be Islamic, not CIAs or Mossads.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

An organ-grinder blaming the monkeys

jay
jay

Oh sure, the Islamism came from them…the guns and direction came from the UK/US.

paul
paul

All the raving mad bearded head chopping and throat slitting loonies are the creation of our Zionist chums. Strange how all these foaming mad radical moslem fanatics never so much as lift a finger against Israel. Can’t bite the hand that feeds you, I suppose.

Like “Tommy Robinson” with his £10,000 a month Zionist hand out and free all expenses paid trips to the Promised Land so he can preen and pose atop Zionist tanks. Have to keep all those shekels rolling in.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

None of the problems in Iraq will be made better by the worlds leading terror state conducting a fresh round of atrocities.

And just in case you had forgotten “U.S. sanctions are seriously destroying Iran’s health infrastructure and are leading to immediate deaths and suffering of the Iranian population. Last year, UN special rapporteur on the negative impact of the unilateral coercive measures Idriss Jazairy concluded from a look at the sanctions regime, “The current system creates doubt and ambiguity which makes it all but impossible for Iran to import these urgently needed humanitarian goods. This ambiguity causes a ‘chilling effect’ which is likely to lead to silent deaths in hospitals as medicines run out, while the international media fail to notice.”
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/11/07/how-us-sanctions-iran-are-killing-innocent-people

In other words economic warfare kills people just as readily as other methods.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Both al-Qaeda and ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service ie MOSSAD using the English usage for MI6)are Western creations. And the murder of Leftists in Iran was indeed, despicable. Just like Israel’s murder of 40,000 in Lebanon in 1982 and tens of thousands elsewhere. Time to give peace a chance.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

You surely have seen this? Millions Pack Teheran Streets.

Mission accomplished much?

Antonym
Antonym

Anglo Arab duet: you bet, pivoting on peninsular oil.

* Check St John Philby, father of Kim – converted to Islam in KSA – helping US with the biggest oil deal in history.
* Or read ‘Treason in the Blood’.
* Or see ‘Bitterlake’ In which Roosevelt makes a deal with the Saudi King.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Or read ‘The Fateful Triangle’ by Noam Chomsky, or ‘Passovers of Blood’ by Ariel Toaff, or anything by Israel Shahak.

Orage
Orage
Orage

Sorry I obviously don’t know how to do links.

Antonym
Antonym

Would Iran have done the same to Pompeo & co had they had the chance, means and opportunity?

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

No-they’re not Evil, treacherous, bloodthirsty fiends, like the US elite or the Israeli elites, the world champions of barbarous assassination, often with family and neighbours included for great religious significance.

Antonym
Antonym

Right. The Ayatollahs just hang homosexuals from cranes, or mass shoot to kill their own protesting population like recently.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Hanging gays is despicable, but bombing them to death, or creating the Daash cancer that throws them off roofs, is just as vile. The protestors shot recently, and the Western numbers are, as ever, exaggerated, are part of the attempt by the West to set the scene for a regional war. I don’t know if you live in Israel, but your type of intransigent Judeofascist will only bring destruction down upon Israel. The Iron Dome garbage won’t protect you, then you’ll be queuing, if possible, to flee back to Golders Green or Crown Heights. May I be candid-I think that will be a disaster, for the whole world, including the Jews. The victory of hatred and vengefulness will be the final bitter triumph for Zionism, ie Nazism for the Jews.

Orage
Orage

Disingenous question. What you have to ask yourself is one simple question:
Which countries have a very well developed programme of drone based assassinations of their declared enemies?
The answer is three or perhaps four and these are wll known.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

In the case of the USA and Israel, murder of ‘enemies’ and, nine times as many, ‘enemy’ civilians. ‘Collateral damage’ for the USA, mitzvot for Israel.

GEOFF
GEOFF

I’m sure they would have had the opportunity on many occasion, I remember seeing the tough yanks going down a street with the rifles at the ready herding six or seven young children about six years old, and you could see the horror in their eyes, after wiping away tears, these lice aren’t fit to be called human beings, I also remember the tough pilots talking to one another having fired at a crowd of fleeing people running for their lives, a couple of them didn’t get shot, and one of them said yea I know I’m going back to finish them off, that’s beside slitting open the stomachs of pregnant women during the Vietnam war, the yanks are nothing but a shower of gutless, fascist ,warmongering, uneducated bags of cancer infected shit.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

They will now – since they gave the orders.

Derek
Derek

Would Iran have done the same to Pompeo & co had they had the chance, means and opportunity?

No because they are not suicidal.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

Final words for tonight in the hope that no bags are filled by tomorrow and everybody calms down a bit.

The General may have been in the wrong place at the right time, but first to complete the tale of why he was important and could have been targeted anytime while fucking up the grand plans before: my final summary from
https://ctc.usma.edu/qassem-soleimani-irans-unique-regional-strategy/

‘In 2003, the U.S. invasion of Iraq pushed Syria and Iran still closer together, as both regimes realized that if the Americans succeeded in Iraq, they could be next. To damage the U.S. occupation, Soleimani helped Syrian intelligence create pipelines for funneling Sunni jihadis into Iraq. Once there, the jihadis attacked U.S. forces, often using roadside bombs supplied by Soleimani’s Quds Force from factories inside Iran.

Soleimani soon intervened more directly in Iraq, too, sending in Shi`a militias as proxies. Under his leadership, the Quds Force stood up a number of militias for the express purpose of attacking U.S. and allied troops. Collectively, these organizations were responsible for hundreds of coalition deaths. One of them, Asaib Ahl al-Haq (League of the Righteous), claimed more than 6,000 such attacks between its creation in 2006 and the U.S. withdrawal in 2011—an average of more than three per day, every day, for five years. ‘

—–

But that is not the reason why he was assassinated now or more aptly then! Magnier tells us:

‘The US struck Iran at the heart of its pride by killing Major General Soleimani. But the “axis of the Resistance” killed him before that. This is how’

https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/05/fragmentation-in-the-axis-of-resistance-led-to-soleimanis-death

—–

I try to remember war is only politics and, that is not black & white

Goodnight all and thankyou Off-G for the platform.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Looks awfully like disinfo to me.

JudyJ
JudyJ

Extract taken from website of the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point, Virginia. Say no more.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

From 2018? Expert knowledge teaching future leaders? Put together by an expert? Fully referenced.

What exactly is your problem with the original, my summary or Magniers upto date journalism?

Just downticking and no criticism except ‘I don’t like them’ is not a rational objection – is it?

JudyJ
JudyJ

Dungroanin’

Apologies if I have somehow misread your intentions to illuminate BTL readers.

I considered my ‘criticism’ to be implicit and, as you will see, directed at the dubious source of the first link. The detail given in the paragraphs you summarise citing Soleimani’s supposed crimes against humanity is consistent with the justification being expounded by Trump, Pompeo and Pence, hence my cynicism. Most of the US ‘evidence’ is ridiculous beyond belief and none has as yet been backed up by actual details linking Soleimani to any of the alleged terrorist activities.

Conversely, the article by Magnier – and indeed comments he has made in the last few days on Twitter – focuses on the reluctance or tardiness of those in the ME on the receiving end of Trump et al’s ever intensifying bullying behaviour to retaliate as a direct contributory factor leading to the war crime committed against Soleimani. What Magnier says makes eminent sense and he is clearly no fan of the US and their tactics.

In short, your position is confusing me and I am happy to be corrected. 🙂 You have linked to what are two opposing points of view as to why Soleimani was ‘taken out’ but seem to be endorsing both in your post …and in your defence of the CTC position. I can only think I must have missed something (maybe in your earlier posts on the events) enabling me to understand what your intention was in quoting extracts from the CTC document in a manner which appears to endorse them whilst also promoting Magnier’s analysis. I would hazard that I may not be the only person confused judging from the down votes against your post at 12.49 a.m.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

It’s an old Yankee bullying tactic. Push and push and push, until your victim reacts, if only reflexively in defence, then scream bloody murder, accuse your victim of ‘aggression’ and bomb them back to the Stone Age. It works every time because the Western MSM lie their effing heads off, the little Streichers.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Well, there you go-Soleimani was on a diplomatic mission requested by the USA and Saudi Arabia to help ease tensions in Iraq. Does it get any more Evil and craven than this?

norman wisdom
norman wisdom

on the bbc yesterday on the radio news they had a journo state that the general collected and slaughtered a goat at end of every battle.
we have too assume that was in city and countryside or mountain range.
a goat a pet one maybe?

talmoodick mockery

casting of spells by cowards khazar filth.

rape murder plunder dustification

next production a new new pearl harbour

iran new hitler

consent is needed

that oil and gas it’s anglo persian oil that
it belongs too the crime families within the empire city of london

oded yinon never stops

motto
through dustification year zero
we build is real a new

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

How exactly?

Dimly Glimpsed
Dimly Glimpsed

Nothing Trump or his administration says can be taken at face value. The USA, Republican and Democrat alike, have been trying to regime-change Iran since 1979. The USA has invaded and bombed Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and is covertly warring in other countries as well. USA policy appears, on the surface, to be chaotic. What might be the goals, based on facts from public information sources, of USA foreign policy in the ME? My guess is balkanization of the Middle East, following the Bernard Lewis / Yinon Plan. source.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

Since 1953, and the ousting of Mossadegh, surely.

Jo
Jo

Please don’t forget that the UK has supported the US at every stage.

nottheonly1
nottheonly1

Johnson obviously endorses the terror attack against Soleimani.

“One cannot eat as much as one wants to vomit.” (Max Liebermann)

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

With Australia ever further up the Imperial rectum, always.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

3rd of my summary of the @Ali_H_Soufan piece.

The Iranian shias and AQ Sunnis could never be bosom buddies!

‘It is not surprising, therefore, that no convincing evidence has ever been adduced showing cooperation between Iran and al-Qaida on specific operations or attacks. A senior jihadi who was once detained in Iran wrote that both the United States and the Islamic Republic are enemies of al-Qaida; the difference being that, whereas the United States is the “current enemy,” Iran is merely the “postponed enemy.” In the meantime, Iran and al-Qaida find themselves in what former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has aptly called a “shotgun marriage.” The divorce, if and when it comes, will be messy.’

‘After 9/11, al-Qaida members initially sought refuge in Pakistan, historically a haven for the group. But the regime of Pervez Musharraf, appalled by the carnage bin Ladin had inflicted, agreed to cooperate with the United States to hunt down jihadis in its territory. Pakistan was no longer safe. In response, many al-Qaida members, including some of the group’s most senior leaders, migrated to the one remaining country in the region that America could not reach—the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Abu Hafs al-Mauritani, formerly al-Qa
ida’s leading cleric, headed the first wave to flee into Iran. In December 2001, al-Mauritani reportedly met Soleimani in person, only for the general to turn down his offer of cooperation against America.
This, as we have seen, was the period during which Soleimani was sharing intelligence with the United States and contemplating an overhaul in relations with the “Great Satan;” and part of his motivation for doing so, according to one of the American diplomats involved, was the opportunity to destroy al-Qaida, as well as its Taliban hosts. Recall that the quid pro quo for Soleimani’s cooperation with the United States was information from U.S. intelligence on the whereabouts of an al-Qaida fixer in Iran, who was swiftly arrested and handed over to the U.S.-backed authorities in Kabul’

https://ctc.usma.edu/qassem-soleimani-irans-unique-regional-strategy/

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

And right on cue Trump outs the US as The Terrorist Threat.
Threatening to behave just like isis/AQ when they destroyed Palmira and so much ancient civilisations archeology in Iraq, Syria and Libya.

“….targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

CULTURE!!!

That means CIVILIAN. That is TERRORISM.

Tch tch Twatter needs to take his blue tick away.

Btw What’s up downticker?

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

It’s a war crime. Even the threat is a crime. But that is the Land of Murder in all its glory.

Gezzah Potts

Trump has just refused to leave Iraq until Iraq pay Billions of dollars for Balad Airbase and he has threatened to impose such crippling sanctions on Iraq that they will make the sanctions against Iran look tame in comparison.
This gets more surreal by the hour.
A Mafia Don in full technicolor madness.

paul
paul

If Iraq is stupid enough to have any assets in Britain, no doubt Carney will steal them like he did with Venezuela.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

That is Trumps way of saying he is outta there and only making a face saving deal while doing so.

paul
paul

It just reflects the essentially criminal and terrorist nature of the US Regime. Like the threats to “whack the son of a bitch in the street” made to Assange/ Snowden/ Manning. Or Trump croaking like a cheap Mafia hood, “They gotta pay us! They gotta pay us! They gotta pay us for their protection!”

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

A New York ‘judge’ found Iran ‘responsible’ for 9/11. That’s the stinking, poisonous, bedlam that is the US of Murder. New York-where the sayanim involved in the plot live and prosper.

norman wisdom
norman wisdom

it true
did prez dump not say itanians where dancing on car roof filming the event.
was it not iranian arts projects all over new york
did irania art projects b thing and gelatine not live in the towers for months before the event.

did an iranian billionaire not tell the bbc jane stanley that the building was pulled
33 mins before the event.

did solamani himself not order saddam too take the babies out of the incubators and ship the machines to the caves of afghanistan for evil doing iranian osama bin lardin

i agree with mel gibson
all wars are caused by the moolars of irania mainly undercover and covert.

if it was not for the intel from real story tellers like rita katz we would never have this vital honest real informationals

we need too help israel now at these precious moments of quiet before the coming storm.
at this moment literally millions of innocent souls are at risk in tel aviv.

we must raise an army and send monies now are agents are waiting for your donations now

help make israel mighty now for the children for the new temple and the red heffers that have just been cloned

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

The USA is the creator and protector of al-Qaeda, since the 1970s and 80s, and of their Evil heartland, Saudi Arabia, since the 40s.

norman wisdom
norman wisdom

tim osman was cia
al-Qaida cia

9 and 11 was a ritual
done under the cover of an israeli arts project
b thing and gelatine

usa,israel uk oded yinon plan

Mucho
Mucho

All this stems from the fact that the people of the West haven’t got the guts to think for themselves; they are just too complacent eating the shit sandwich served up every day by their controllers. 9/11 has been solved. The people have allowed these scumfucks to breed and grow in the aftermath of 9/11 and have chosen to ridicule those who have put their heads above the sand, screaming “bloody murder” about what is going on, what has taken place, and in terms of 9/11, what happened that day. “Nah, we’ll just keep chewing on our Bin Laden Pain Au Shit, thanks all the same”. Then they carry on as normal, with their “I’m alright Jack outlook”, thinking that the chickens will never come home to roost. Through this system of manufactured groupthink, where the lowest common denominator minds are the the most celebrated, where ignorance is strength, where being a stupid fucking ignorant prick is agreed upon and lauded, the people have opened the doors wide open for the most evil of the human race to flourish and get everything they want, no questions asked, no resistance.
As an aside, I notice that they are openly discussing the use of chemtrails and geoengineering in Indonesia, where they are actively spraying chemicals to suppposedly avert more disaster. I hope all you chemtrail naysayers enjoy your shit sandwich, as you digest the admission of guilt being splayed all over the TV screens right now.
“Oh, no, they wouldn’t do that……”

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

The MSM poltroons who whinge on about the ‘Saudis’ from al-Qaeda who ‘committed 9/11’ are just like their colleagues who still speak of Oswald as the lone gun-man. They must be either cretins or totally unprincipled liars-or both, of course.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

You are right to bring up 9/11 as the acid test.

If western societies can be persuaded to believe porkies on such an epic scale then it suggests (as again demonstrated during the smear campaign against Corbyn) there is nothing, and I mean literally nothing that is too far fetched for them to accept.

All of this begs the question: how far does any of it matter in a post-truth world, a world in which politicians and the media are no longer burdened by concepts like integrity, or even logic (since both are merely instruments of corporate totalitarianism)

The mouths of most politicians are more or less like open sewers from which flows an endless stream of shit. And lets not forget that there is NO right to pre-emptive, extra-judicial assassination in international law, in the absence of an armed attack.
Such outrageous breaches are prohibited by the UN Charter.

Adam Curtis employs a slightly more elegant term, hypernormalisation, a good a way as any to describe the kind of conditions that now makes serious diplomacy nigh on impossible when we have actors like Bolton, Pence and Pomeo, or yapping sidekicks like Dominic Raab.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

You add congenital stupidity to lifelong brainwashing and factor in moral cowardice to speak the truth, and you get the great Western mediocrity.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

The General was setup by the US pretending to want to make peace & it has resulted in the Iraqi parliament just voting to expell the US forces –

Ok so 2 tweets from Magnier just out

1. Elijah J. Magnier
@ejmalrai
·
27m
We have learned today from #Iraq Prime Minister AdilAbdl Mahdi how
@realDonaldTrump
uses diplomacy:
#US asked #Iraq to mediate with #Iran. Iraq PM asks #QassemSoleimani to come and talk to him and give him the answer of his mediation, Trump &co assassinate an envoy at the airport

2. Elijah J. Magnier
@ejmalrai
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#Iran #IRGC commander #QassemSoleimani managed to reach with his death what he couldn’t reach when he was alive. That is his last spectacular act for Iran and for the “Axis of the Resistance”: legislation forcing the US to withdraw and cease all kind of collaboration.
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Elijah J. Magnier
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#BreakingNews:

The legislation has been approved by #Iraq MPs to terminate the presence of the US forces and for the government to implement the resolution.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin

I can’t believe that the Empire is reckless enough to cause deaths of millions of their own – never mind 10’s of millions of Iranians. Risking the wipeout of Israel, SA and UAE. While putting itself in a direct confrontation with the EuraAsian power of Russia/China and their allies.

I think that what they achieved with the assassination of THIS General (they have killed many other commanders of equal and higher ranks) is to nullify a modern day Alexander or Caesar who had defeated them in the field and over the years and forced them to retreat.

In effect ridding the new Eurasian world order of the General who would be King as a parting gift!
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I quote some insights from a highly detailed report by
Ali Soufan…an FBI special agent, he served on the frontline against al-Qa`ida and became known as a top counterterrorism operative and interrogator.
@Ali_H_Soufan

He wrote this assessment over a year ago
https://ctc.usma.edu/qassem-soleimani-irans-unique-regional-strategy/

He explains in a tour de force of historical biography of the Great General, amongst many other, those things :-

1. Iran’s “Axis of Resistance” has been built on the efforts of proxies controlled by Soleimani in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen—and on the marriage between state and militant power that Iran has been able to broker in each of those countries. The success of this model will have repercussions across the Middle East for years, if not decades to come.

2. An historic realignment of Iranian politics may therefore be in the cards, and there is strong evidence that Iranians are increasingly willing to consider a third path: a military president. If so, Soleimani would be the natural front-runner. A University of Maryland poll found that almost 65 percent of Iranians hold a “very favorable” view of the general, giving him a commanding 28-point lead over his nearest rival, Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.

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I shall be quoting a LOT more from that excellent paper.

George Mc
George Mc

“I can’t believe that the Empire is reckless enough…”

There are two aspects to this recklessness – first they know they’re going down and they’re shitting themselves (with aspects of a pyrrhic victory as in when a screaming infant can’t win and so tears up the entire board game) and second, the psychotic movie drenched psychology of America has finally sunk in so deep that no-one – and certainly no-one in ruling circles – has any grasp at all of the actual world.

richard le sarc
richard le sarc

When the Zionist ‘Samson Option’ to tear down the temple to kill everyone, meets the End Times blood-lust of the likes of Pompeo and Pence, and you have a raving psychopathic imbecile in charge, but easily manipulated, you get unintended consequences. The raving of Trump to destroy Iranian Holy places (al-Aqsa Mosque anyone?)that he would not even have known exist, shows that he is being manipulated to cause a Shia revolt across the Middle East, with the aim of genocide and a ‘Final Conflict’ between ‘Good’ and ‘Evil’ the aim.

K Ford
K Ford

“‘The enemy,’ retorted Yossarian with weighted precision, ‘is anyone who’s going to get you killed, no matter which side he’s on, and that includes Colonel Cathcart.’”
Catch 22

We should be after those who disseminate propaganda and bring death to their brainwashed followers.
If the leaders knew their lives were on the line, things would slow down dramatically.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig

Of course both the US and Israel now have carte blanche to stage as much false flag ‘terrorism’ as they want and blame it on Iranian ‘revenge’. Whatever else happens, we can almost certainly look forward to some of that.

Yuppers. The Iranians are too smart to do anything that dumb in retaliation, so a false flag it will be. This also explains the strange ‘de-escalation’ talk coming from Trump and Pompeo: they want people to forget who actually started it so that when that false flag hits, people will blame all the escalation on Iran.

But all this seems small gains for massive losses. The question ‘what were you thinking?’ hangs there, currently unanswered. If this was clever geopolitical chess it’s currently so deep as to defeat all analysis.

Correct again. This all shows that Washington has successfully backed itself into a corner from which there is no escape but war–a war they can’t win, as you yourself noted in the article.

K Ford
K Ford

I am all for killing Generals!
Life is not a game of chess where we wipe out pawns by the shitload.
The real plan should be to take out the leaders, the ones who would get us all killed.
It will slow the wars down when they are first on the hit list!!

GEOFF
GEOFF

The real plan should be not to take anyone out and mind our own business .

MASTER OF UNIVE
MASTER OF UNIVE

Speaking of business, if you paid back foreign creditors you would be able to mind your own business instead of attempting to destroy everyone else & their businesses.

Creeping Americanization needs to pay their American debts to all foreign creditors before Wall Street implodes outright again.

Statues of Margaret ‘the milk thief’ Thatcher & Ronald ‘trickledown urine on your leg’ Reagan should be sold at auction to USA Republican billionaires so that they can idolize them in their gardens in private.

Congress should also be forced to pass a bill to prevent minting of new billionaires, and their spawn. The IRS should be mandated to tax wealthy billionaires out of the billionaire class and back to six figure salaries.

Jeff Bezos should be sent to Calcutta for a minimum wage job cleaning the streets in his bare feet. Warren Buffett and his children should be working the ship salvaging yards in India as they need wealthy Americans & their children for cutting steel from the ships as they are broken apart & recycled.

The United States of America owes foreign creditors $23 trillion that they have no intention of paying back or honouring their debts. This is how criminals act when they have to pay tax.
Elliot Ness has work to do IMHO.

MOU

GEOFF
GEOFF

You forgot Gates and his disgusting wife !

Steve Hayes

“When Clinton was dumped last minute as POTUS (too crazy, too weird), and the Deep State pivoted to Trump” This judgement is not merely counter-factual, it is truly absurd.

Tutisicecream

A developing narrative indeed Catte.

It appears that 2020 has got off to a shit hot start with Golf Cart Goofy been slipped the Turd Doctrine engineered by Bolt-on brain, the deranged psychopath of Washington. From sleepy hollow the message went out to shoot first and let the policy slide along afterwards. How are the people of the land of the free going to swallow this piece of fascist wrangling?

Meanwhile in old Blighty Johnson has not even had chance to sober up from the New Year bash with his Russian friend and patron, Евгений Лебедев – bringing a whole new meaning to the phrase going down the swanee. Who said Russians don’t interfere in elections? Well those with British golden passports at any rate…

George Mc
George Mc

“It appears that 2020 has got off to a shit hot start”

I agree with half of that.