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Crimes of the century – truth, perception and punishment

Kevin Smith

“You didn’t think that one through, did you, @eliothiggins sweetie? You’re not in the ladies’ lingerie trade now. This discussion is about truth, which endures, is not held together by elastic, and is not for sale.”
Peter Hitchens responding to Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat over the OPCW scandal on Twitter – 2 January 2020.

Like many, I’ve been following the Douma scandal for some time and particularly since the OPCW whistleblowers and leaked emails blew the lid off the official narrative that Assad used chemical weapons there.

This issue is being discussed on one of my ‘go to’ accounts on Twitter – Peter Hitchens who has brought this to the attention of the mainstream.

For the past few weeks he’s been debating the topic with Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat, Scott Lucas and various Middle East based journalists who created and then pushed the false narrative.

In fact, it’s not really a debate. Peter Hitchens is quite literally slaughtering these narrative managers – his logic and clear thinking – and wit exposing the numerous gaps in their story and their desperate deflections.

Hitchens position is not exactly the same as many of us here hold – that Douma was a clear false flag. What he is saying is the evidence points to there being no chemical attack by the Syrian government, the pretext used for the attack on Syria. He doesn’t wish to speculate on matters which aren’t conclusively proven, for example precisely on what did actually happen.

I respect that position in many ways and his refusal to comment on the dead civilians in the Douma images makes sense from a journalist in the mainstream. I think by having a position which is clear and unassailable enables him to easily brush off his online detractors and not allow them to deflect to other issues.

While I don’t agree with everything he says, Hitchens has a calm and rational argument for all the issues he covers. This puts clear ground between him and his online opponents who often resort to childish abuse.

My 80-year old mum admires him too. She describes him as ‘frightfully posh’. Perhaps someone who might have belonged in a previous age – but I’m glad we have him in this one.

Anyway, I think we can be sure that Hitchens will continue his important work within the remit he’s chosen and others will investigate the unanswered questions which arise from the Douma incident.

Ultimately the question about the dead civilians in the images is simply too dreadful to ignore.

This is because if a chemical attack did not take place and Assad was not responsible it seems highly likely that the civilians including children were murdered to facilitate a fabrication.

And were our own intelligence agencies involved in a staged event, considering the refusal to even establish the basic facts in the days following?

And then, of course, the resulting air strikes nearly caused us to go to war with Russia, with all that would entail.

While these investigations continue, I think it’s timely to see where these events fit into the way the general public think and perceive wrongdoing and to try to radically to change this.

I believe more people nowadays recognise that the devastating wars in Iraq and Libya and events in Syria were pushed by our governments and media. They can even accept, when you explain, that we’ve been assisting terrorists to unseat governments for years. But they seem hesitant of taking the next step and we need to encourage them on this path.

This path leads to recognising the sheer evil in our midst and getting out of this mindset that criminal behavior and lying in governments and in our media is normal or should in any way be tolerated. Perhaps some people appreciate this already but don’t want to address it out of concern to what they might find. Maybe some people dread the thought of a global conflict so ignore it. But we need to hammer home the consequences of simply doing nothing.

I’ve been trying to think of an analogy to try to get this point across. I sometimes say to people, we wouldn’t have released a serial killer like Harold Shipman from prison and appointed him Foreign Secretary. Therefore, why do we tolerate a long line of Foreign Secretaries complicit in laying waste to the world? Sadly, with this analogy most people usually look back at me blankly so I have been searching for one more complete and rooted in history which people can relate better to events today.

So, here follows an analogy of a character who lived in the 17th century. His traits, his crimes, the political climate and peoples misguided perceptions in response can be compared to recent events and one particular individual causing havoc in the world today.

Of course I refer to Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat.

Eliot (‘suck my balls’) Higgins and Titus Oates

1. Eliot Higgins and Bellingcat

Higgins probably doesn’t need much of an introduction here. It seems he has no specific qualifications relevant to his role and a bit of a drop-out in terms of education.

Higgins has been quoted as saying:

Before the Arab spring I knew no more about weapons than the average Xbox owner. I had no knowledge beyond what I’d learned from Arnold Schwarzenegger and Rambo.”

But this didn’t prevent him blogging about world events and then setting himself up and his site as investigator for several incidents most notably the shooting down of the MH17 passenger plane over Ukraine and allegations of chemical weapons use in Syria. It’s now known that Bellingcat is funded by pro-war groups including the Atlantic Council

Higgins has been accused by chemical weapons experts, academics and independent journalists on the ground of fabricating evidence to reach a predetermined outcome decided on by his funders.

His rise to prominence was fast and apparently some media editors now refer their journalists to Bellingcat fabrications rather than allowing them to do any journalism themselves.

Higgins is currently frantically trying to prop up the Douma narrative against a mountain of evidence disproving his conclusions.

For those who’ve followed his story, it’s clear that Higgins is an intelligence asset, set up to take the fall when the currently collapsing narratives take hold in the mainstream.

2. Titus Oates and the Popish Plot

Oates was a foul-mouthed charlatan, serial liar and master of deception who lived in the 17th century. His earlier life included being expelled from school and he was labelled a ‘dunce’ by people who knew him. He became a clergyman and later joined the Navy. His career was plagued by various sex scandals and charges of perjury.

In the 1670s during the time of Charles II, religious tensions threatened to spill over into civil war but the pragmatic King, by and large, kept a lid on it.

However, along with Dr Israel Tonge an anti-Catholic rector, Oates started writing conspiracy theories and inventing plots and later began writing a manuscript alleging of a plan to assassinate King Charles II and replace him with his openly Catholic brother.

When the fabrication started to gather momentum, the King had an audience with Oates and was unconvinced and was said to have found discrepancies in his story.

However, the tense political and religious climate at that time was ideal for conspiracy theories and scaremongering. The King’s ministers took Oates at his word and over a dozen Catholics were executed for treason. This story created panic and paranoia lasting several years taking the nation to the brink of civil war.

Over time Oates lies were exposed and when the Catholic King James II came to the throne, he tried Oates with perjury and he was whipped and placed in the pillory.

After James II fled England during the so-called ‘Glorious Revolution’ King William and Queen Mary pardoned Oates and gave him a pension.

For me, this whole episode has many obvious parallels with Higgins, the long-running Russia and the anti-Semitism witch-hunts in the media and the false narratives over Iraq, Libya and Syria. Like those in power today, Oates had a knack for getting away with it. And I guess we can all relate this to Julian Assange – the victims or whistleblowers being punished and the perpetrators getting off.

I had wondered why James II, often ruthless and unforgiving had not executed Oates. But apparently the crime of perjury even then didn’t carry the death sentence. The judge who convicted Oates was said to have tried his best to finish him off through the whipping, though he survived.

But perhaps even the King and judiciary in failing in this or not using other means at their disposal, couldn’t comprehend the enormity of his crimes. Oates was after all a rather absurd character, open to ridicule.

Perhaps this is a bit similar to people today when discovering that Eliot Higgins is also a foul-mouthed fraud – but they can’t reconcile this comical ex-lingerie employee as a menace to humanity.

3. Modern day

In the past few weeks I’ve read various older articles on Iraq and Syria. US troops shooting people for fun from a helicopter. The perpetrators are still free – the whistle-blowers who exposed that, and other events in prison or exile.

Last year we learned about a shocking massacre of Syrian children, unreported in the mainstream media. Mainstream journalists through their one-sided distortions of the conflict and silence, perpetuating the myth that the terrorists who carried out this mass murder are freedom fighters.

And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve seen firmer evidence of what many of us knew along – that Douma was a staged fabrication as a pretext for air-strikes and dangerously escalating the Syrian war. The likes of Eliot Higgins and others in the media, colluding in the cover-up of mass murder which likely facilitated this event. And for those honest journalists and experts who bring the truth of these staged events to us, smears will no doubt continue.

Higgins and others in the media who lie, misinform or remain silent are no better than those shooting civilians from helicopters or starting these wars in the first place. In fact, they have killed more and keep killing.

This modern-day Titus Oates, and others share a big responsibility for death and destruction in the Middle East and a dangerous new Cold War.

As I say, I think people are waking up to the distorted narratives and misdirections which have inflicted war on others. Now they need to take the next step and grasp the sheer enormity of the crimes and the risks of global conflict if we don’t act.

So, how do we achieve this and get in a position of holding the criminals and war propagandists to account?

By confronting them directly and mercilessly. As Jeremy Corbyn should have done over the anti-Semitism hoax. Perhaps we should adopt some of the tactics they use against the truth-tellers and whistle-blowers. I don’t mean by lies or smears. Maybe even ridiculing these people and their nonsense might have the effect of trivialising the crimes they have committed.

No, I think it is time for plainer, no-holds-barred language describing these people for the true evil they are – until the truth and label sticks.

We need to recognise more the seriousness of the crimes. This commentary from the usually measured Piers Robinson about the staged event in Douma reflects the true gravity of the situation in terms of the OPCW complicity.

4. The hijacking of OPCW

The cover-up of evidence that the Douma incident was staged is not merely misconduct. As the staging of the Douma incident entailed mass murder of civilians, those in OPCW who have suppressed the evidence of staging are, unwittingly or otherwise, colluding with mass murder.”

We need to now apply this strong language to all crimes committed, be it from the soldiers on the ground, the governments starting these wars or supplying terrorists or the media which promote mass murder through their lies, distortions and silence when presented with the true facts.

We need to go on the offensive and call out the criminals and spell out in no uncertain terms what we are dealing with. With the evidence and fact-based analogies or arguments we publish we should be using more commentary such as ‘mass murderer’, ‘traitor’ or ‘terrorist propagandist’.

This is particularly important in light of events in recent days. The assassination of General Qasem Soleimani has been normalised in both mainstream and on social media. The people legitimising state-sponsored murder in offices thousands of miles away from Iran, woefully ignorant of the potential of this causing a chain of events which could visit our door soon.

Above all, we should specifically name and shame the individuals promoting war. This needs to be relentless. The official war narratives which have crumbled so far are ample evidence of wrongdoing on a vast scale. So, we can be confident in doing this with the truth firmly on our side.

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wardropper
wardropper
Jan 22, 2020 5:15 PM

No, I think it is time for plainer, no-holds-barred language describing these people for the true evil they are – until the truth and label sticks.
Yes indeed.
I was, however, reminded today of the huge mountain we yet have to climb before it can be normal again NOT to be corrupt and wicked. The scenario was a session of acrimony in a US Senate chamber, and according to the NYTimes, “Tensions grew so raw after midnight that Chief Justice Roberts cut in just before 1 a.m. to admonish the managers and the president’s lawyers to “remember where they are” and return to “civil discourse.” ”
“Remembering where you are”, when dealing with Titus Oates and other vulgar frauds is perhaps not entirely appropriate…?

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 22, 2020 5:16 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Apologies, I forgot to set the first sentence in quotes…

Thom
Thom
Jan 21, 2020 10:08 AM

Hitchens may be on the level on this particular issue but it is part of a wider deception where Hitchens poses as a friend to critical thinkers and then tells them they are helpless and/or can do nothing about it. If he really had journalistic integrity he wouldn’t be taking a salary from the Mail on Sunday, a newspaper that relentlessly lied for the Tories at the last election, with the help of the itelligence agencies.

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 10:49 PM
Reply to  Thom

As good as Hitchens has done here he’s still at heart a Trotskyist he lives a good split and a toothless display just like the Trotskyists he used to side with. His brother went from Trotskyist to soft neocon and peter went from Trotskyist to an ardent Christian Conservative in a veeeeeery short space of time. Plus there dad was deeeeep in with the establishment and his mum Jewish. So….

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:09 AM
Reply to  Koba

…what?

Gall
Gall
Jan 20, 2020 7:26 AM

Bellingcrap is just another scam like Dupes (Snopes) and Politi”facts”. All of them are funded by the Atlantic Council and the CIA front National Endowment for “Democracy”. Their cover as an “independent objective fact checking service” is about as transparent as Saran Wrap.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jan 20, 2020 3:09 AM

I really liked this when I read it this morning, before the grandkids came round, but I thought some of the comments a bit severe..

I mean this photo is of some 40 year old kid, who lives in Leicester, and his Mum/wife/sister or whatever works in the local Post Office….

I personally had never heard of Brown Noses, and I have never personnally succeeded in getting anything I wrote, posted above our below the line, since The Manchester Guardian moved from Manchester to London, and whilst I do love reading some of the posters’ comments…well look face it. …

Even though Rhys probabaly doesn’t like what this kid writes – Elliot is it? he is hardly going to come round with a chainsaw, to cut his head off is he? He probably never even thought of it.

He did say he is small fry, and he probably is still a virgin (been brainwashed – so he actually belives the model doll is better. What has he got to compare it to?)

So I can’t blame any of them.

There are alternatives as well as Facebook, Youtube, Instagram, and all those Dating Websites, when almost everything you write gets deleted.

Just go down the local pub when there is a good band on. Even I can pull there, but I am better looking than both Rhys and Elliot

I Like Girls.

I am a man. It’s Normal

Just keep fit dancing and smiling, and you will be O.K.

Tony

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jan 30, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

For a self-styled working class Mancunian turned computer whizzkid, you do display all the emotional incompetence of your kind.

1. Where is the evidence I do not like girls?

Not being married is not evidence, just as Jews dying in Auschwitz is not evidence they were mentally subnormal homosexuals.

2. Where is the evidence, outside the working class, that getting drunk and listening to 100db music is the only way to engage with women?

It is the working class way, to be sure. But it is suited most to those lacking in conversational skills, lacking in cultural refinement.

I do not stop you enjoying your way.

You are too immature to understand that other ways exist….they include leading women down ski slopes with skill and consideration; eating out at a restaurant where you can hear yourself speak and where the food is rather better than I can cook at home (in my case, finding that for < £40 is a challenge); going to the Wigmore hall to listen to music, enjoying a wine in the interval; etc etc.

3. Do you understand the difference between hating individual women and hating women as a species?

I think not. I am absolutely able to distinguish between the two, which means when I deliver specific coruscating criticism of individual women, it says nothing about what I think of the other 4.6bn odd women on planet earth.

Working class Labour Party losers are too thick to understand the difference, so scream 'misogynist' like gormless cretins.

4. Have you even reached the understanding that the judgement of good looks in heterosexual men is made by heterosexual women, not by the men competing for superiority?

Clearly not. Your opinion does not matter to any woman worth talking to for ten seconds…

5. Provide evidence that I have ever shown any interest in blow up dolls.

Even your computer skills would struggle to find evidence of any purchases, online or even in Soho. Why? Because it never took place and I have no interest in them. Shame…..

Are you beginning to understand why the Labour Party is not a vehicle I admire??

The views of its members are so cretinously primitive, I simply do not have a single allegiance to any of them….

paul
paul
Jan 19, 2020 11:06 PM

The prime importance of these endless hoaxes, smears, lies, fabrications and official approved conspiracy theories, lies not so much in the events themselves as what it says about the nature of the people who rule over us and their courtiers and handmaidens in the MSM.

It would take a whole forest of trees merely to catalogue all their lies over the years, whether it’s the Iraq Incubator Babies, the black Viagra fuelled rape gangs in Libya, the Syrian Gas Hoaxes, 9/11, Iraq’s WMD, Iran’s non existent nuclear weapons, Skripal, Russiagate, Ukrainegate, or the communist spy/ terrorist/ anti semitic smear campaign against Corbyn. And that is only the tip of a very large iceberg. You could go back further to Gladio, Operation Northwoods, Tonkin Gulf, the “Holocaust”, Zinoviev Letter, Bayonetted Belgian Babies, Raped Belgian Nuns, Human Bodies Made Into Soap. The list is endless.

We have been lied to consistently for years, decades, and generations. And these lies have been peddled endlessly in the MSM, no matter how ludicrous and transparently false they are. In the absence of direct personal knowledge or very convincing evidence to the contrary, you just have to assume that everything we have ever been told, are being told, and will be told, and most of the accepted historical record, are simply false. Nothing, nothing at all, can ever be taken at face value.

And those who rule over us and who are responsible for these lies are psychopathic subhuman filth devoid of any moral values or any redeeming features whatsoever. They are a thousand times worse than the worst mass murderers or child killers who have ever been through our courts. The Moors Murderers, the Ted Bundys, the Jeffrey Dahmers, were seriously damaged individuals who killed a handful of victims. And they did their own dirty work. The Blairs, the Campbells, the Straws, the Bushes, the Cheneys, the Rumsfelds, the Allbrights, the Macrons, the Camerons, the Netanyahus, the Trumps, have the blood of millions on their hands. They and their wire pullers are responsible for the death, starvation and misery of tens and hundreds of millions.

So when Blair, or Johnson, or Trump or whoever is interviewed on television, you have to remember that individual is a thousand times worse than the Moors Murderers, and we would actually be that much better off if Brady or Hindley were ruling over us. They deserve no respect or deference or legitimacy. They plot the murders of millions and the starvation of tens of millions – and laugh and giggle as they do so. They should be simply recognised for what they awe – psychopathic subhuman filth.

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jan 20, 2020 1:40 PM
Reply to  paul

I do agree with you Paul and of course all you say is true. One of the main problems is that these people have the power to build artificial constructs sufficient for the masses to believe and perpetuated through their bought and paid for MSM whose journalists are mere foot soldiers and wish only to get their pay checks. They have no reason to question the lies and distortions pedaled to them by TPTB – they merely repeat the false narrative:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” – Upton Sinclair

And we, the great 99%, have little power to change things except within our local network. We can shout all we like on social media but it changes nothing until the great crisis reoccurs and perhaps the masses will rise and demand a just and equitable system. Until that day perhaps this little video will provide an understanding:

Roberto
Roberto
Jan 22, 2020 10:08 PM
Reply to  paul

The business of the MSM throughout the ages has been to traumatise or at least just generally worry the public with headlines focused on fear, envy, anger, revenge, and hate. Include all five in your story and you’re well on the way to a Pulitzer Prize, bestowed on the profession by one of the great muckrakers of all time. It’s not incidental that there have been a disturbing number of winners that have turned out to be dissembling frauds. Add to this the fact that ‘journalism’ training apparently does not teach entrants to distinguish the difference between opinion and news, and the die is cast: propaganda as news.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 11:03 PM

Here is what BellEndScat supporting Rusbridger is moaning about.

“For some years now – largely unreported – two chancery court judges have been dealing with literally hundreds of cases of phone hacking against MGN Ltd and News Group, the owners, respectively, of the Daily Mirror and the Sun (as well as the defunct News of the World).
The two publishers are, between them, forking out eye-watering sums to avoid any cases going to trial in open court. Because the newspaper industry lobbied so forcefully to scrap the second part of the Leveson inquiry, which had been due to shine a light on such matters, we can only surmise what is going on.

But there are clues. Mirror Group (now Reach) had by July 2018 set aside more than £70m to settle phone-hacking claims without risking any of them getting to court. The BBC reported last year that the Murdoch titles had paid out an astonishing £400m in damages and calculated that the total bill for the two companies could eventually reach £1bn.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/19/there-is-a-reason-why-royals-demonised-but-wont-read-all-about-it-prince-harry-meghan-markle

On the overall perfidious msm he quips:

“Because the newspaper industry lobbied so forcefully to scrap the second part of the Leveson inquiry, which had been due to shine a light on such matters, we can only surmise what is going on.”

——

Completely ignoring that the Integrity Iniative infested Guardian ITSELF objected to the recommendation of Levesons thoroughly public Inquiry and opposition to a independent press regulator!

It would have been a building block and certainly stopped most of the continued press misbehaviour over the last 5 years.

Neither Fish nor Fowl Mr Rusbridger. More sinner that saint, more like.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Jan 19, 2020 9:47 PM

Going to the heart of what Bellingcat, MI6 and CIA is Pompeo’s: “We lie, we cheat, we steal.” These evil filth are devoid of any moral code and have no respect whatsoever for the laws of God or Man. At which point, consider Moses’ (how apt) Ten Commandments. There among them is: “Thou shalt not bear false witness”. Think what you will of these Ten, but as a moral code, they were quite useful.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 2:24 AM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

Would that all these scum could share the fate of their progenitor, Streicher-without the ‘ necktie party’. Life at hard labour would do the lot of them much good.

Brianeg
Brianeg
Jan 19, 2020 6:57 PM

I looked at the Veterans Today link and it all sounds very plausible’

However in today’s world nothing makes sense especially when the questions arise.

Is it possible to change the signal of an aircrafts transponder remotely. Can the target acquisition radar on the missile be spoofed remotely. Just why did the flight control officer sanction the take off of this plane in the middle of a war unless they were party to the whole thing.. Just what were the six Israeli F-35 jets doing flying close to the Iranian border?

Okay there is a lot of smoke but just where is the fire.

Just as interesting is that none of the twelve Iranian missiles was intercepted and there are rumours that the Iranians were able to take out of action American air defences.

I am sure that like with Douma when the majority of NATO missiles were intercepted by missiles that were decades old, you wonder what might happen when most of the middle east is covered by the S-300 and later versions.

This is a story that has got a long way to run and we might never hear the ending.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  Brianeg

Facts are inconvenient.
Many planes took off.
This one was delayed by the pilot ‘to remove overloading’.
Reports of Cruise missiles heading in.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 19, 2020 11:37 PM
Reply to  Brianeg

For the best info on this, go to Brendon O’ Connell’s channel and watch 1 to 3 and number 22. You will get answers there.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYaLxbD7Rix3p1rdGY3IMjg?pbjreload=10

Also go to the Antedote and listen to Greg and Jeremy’s latest offering.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMf1qGR8km1c8vg_dtpzzVQ

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 20, 2020 12:15 AM
Reply to  Mucho

It sounds a bit MAGA.

The thing about ‘chips’ is they could easily be identified by putting them in a black box and watching what they do using a chip which only does that!

The whole bs about it’s THEM not US crap falls away. Just need some open source simple ‘custodian’ chip manufacturer to make that available. If it can be made a ‘gate keeper’ than we are all safe.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 9:21 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

“It sounds a bit MAGA. ”
After this, I will never, ever read any of your comments ever again. Get lost!

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 9:21 AM
Reply to  Mucho

You talk so much crap. Please, keep it to yourself

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 20, 2020 11:27 AM
Reply to  Mucho

I ain’t saying that is your opinion am I?

The bit I watched was him being gung-ho about getting back ‘control of microprocessors’ !!!

There is a big difference between designing chips and ‘manufacturing’ facilities’.

Have you never wondered why most actual building of small electrical component equipment takes place in Asia?

I don’t care wherher you read my comments- i am free to post what I want on whatevet article and whoevers comment. And stick to facts.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

“The bit I watched “.
Honestly, I am so tired of people who comment on things they know nothing about. Everything you say is wrong, because you are speaking from a position of total ignorance, because you haven’t watched the films.
Watch 1 to 3. Watch 22 and 23 ALL THE WAY THROUGH, not skimming. Then comment. Every inaccurate comment you make is covered in detail. Honestly it’s no wonder we’re so fucked.

From 2005 after one google search, time spent on this, 10 seconds:
“While Yona was developed in partnership with one of Intel’s California centers, the 65nm microprocessor product is the first to be developed in its entirety, both the architecture and strategy, by Intel engineers at its Israel plants in Haifa and Yakum. ”
https://www.israel21c.org/intels-new-chip-design-developed-in-israel/

You know zilch, you understand nothing, you make assumptions, you don’t watch or read the material, and then in your total ignorance, you spew your feeble thoughts on this forum. Moron

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Mucho

You define the phrase “ignorant Brit”

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 20, 2020 4:16 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Mucho since you FAILED instantly in your promise to ignore me – i will respond to your toy throwing out of the parambulator.

First just telling people to WATCH something without explaining what the salient point to be learnt – is not the way to influence or educate.

I prefer reading an argument- I definitely do not spend hours watching TV or listening to propaganda by msm / indy or ‘shock jocks’ – that last was the personality I saw and didn’t feel the need to hear anymore as I don’t when Nigel Farage and his ilk do on the radio here.

If you want to inform or prove something to me or anyone else kindly post a link to a written piece.

Second, chips are designed eveywhere there is such competence. Chip manufacturing mainly improved theough research in top universities.
The UK was a lead chip designer too.

None of that means the Israelis haven’t monopolosed tech and own many patents. The fact is the Israelis ARE part of the 5+1 eyed world Empire – they are the plus one. Snowdens whistleblowing makes absolutely clear that the +1 gets a higher clearance than the +4.

That’s as nice as I am prepared to be, so finally, that last paragraph is what is known as PROJECTION. Look it up and learn that it comes from your fav bogeymen brainfuckers.

That is some serious self-hate you have going on – work on it.

Take it easy ok?

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Jan 25, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

No you do not want to ignore chips. A simple activation string defeat monitoring them in a black box.
There are open source chips in the works and RISC-V is opening up new options for chip design.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 20, 2020 9:20 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Number 23 is totally relevant too, going deep into chips, backdooring and kill switch usage

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Mucho

So the mocking of maga is what set you off? Fuck maga and it’s idiot supporters great nations don’t slaughter civilians for capital

bevin
bevin
Jan 19, 2020 6:06 PM
norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 5:55 PM

chris morris is very funny has a fine body of twisted comedick works
for all his charm his role is too destroy society degrade
he is khazar after all

sacha baron co hen the names speaks for itself an empty cruel tool
never trust a coen cohen khan or cowen or co they cookoo

eliot mcfuck higgins is not oirish
he is not certainly related to snooker loopy or is it darts i cannot remember hero alex higgins.

eliot”s dad is rita katz from site intel group amaq news
his mom barbera lerner spector
or is it vice versa
versa vice
whatever
shirley you

get my the friends of the oirish israel drift
so to speaks
or sum such

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 19, 2020 4:42 PM

Brilliant, insightful, logical hypothesis of the recent plane downing over Iran by Jeremy Rothe Kushel. Ignore the video, this is about the written article.

The Prime Suspect in Ukrainian PS752 Shootdown: Israel’s Unit 8200
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/01/10/ps752/

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 19, 2020 4:44 PM
Reply to  Mucho

For further info about Israeli tech domination, what it is, where it comes from and the implications of this, go to Brendon O Connell’s YT channel. Number 22 in his list is very important.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 19, 2020 6:01 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Jeremy Rothe-Kushel is a very important member of the truth community, in no small part due to the fact that he is an Ashkenazi Jew. My personal belief is that in the end, the Jewish community will play a pivotal role in weeding out the evil that rules over us. I wish we didn’t have these labels, that we could have true freedom to play our chosen role in our God created realm, but at this stage in the game, we’re stuck with our divide and rule labels and systems of control.
Jeremy’s style is to the point, he has great depth of knowledge, an encyclopedic knowledge of his field and is a highly astute commentator. He presents a lot of complex information in fairly easy to digest chunks with his co-host, Greg McCarron, on their show “The Antedote” on YT, as well as doing a lot of guerilla style activism in US politics. Highly recommended.

norman wisdom
norman wisdom
Jan 19, 2020 4:06 PM

i met elliot many years ago
the chap on the 8 year old lap top above
we called him fat face down the synagogue ohh how we laughed
he laughed as well everytime someone said it
such fun
are rabbi one day organised a trip and lecture tour of chatham house the belly of the beast.
we learnt all about how tough regime change was and how difficult it is to do on a bbc size budget.

what we learnt was that having are people everywhere really helped
scripted up to speed influencer roles in media in public on track on page working cog like.
a kind of khazar collective non semites only for security reasons of course.
we could work from a very low pound dollar and shekels base and still be very effective.

never under estimate the benjamins or elliots it is folks like this that are the real hero of the oded yinon
yes sir
already my life
fat face eliot boy done good

and like all khazar he hates the sephardim jewisher and the unclean arab which is shirley a bonus is it not

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:32 PM

First off, if folks haven’t a clue who Harold Shipman is, you’re not going to get far with Titus Oats. At the most they might think it’s a character from Gormenghast.

Second, I initially misread the article and thought that the figure from the 17th century actually WAS Higgins of Bellingcat. And if that seems an absurd assumption to make, even temporarily, it doesn’t seem much more absurd than some of the stuff he says e.g.

I had no knowledge beyond what I’d learned from Arnold Schwarzenegger and Rambo.

The point has been raised that there are psyops perpetrated with a malicious sense of humour as if to say, “These suckers will swallow anything”. Higgins with his “education” from Arnold and Rambo may be an example of one of those jokes.

Third, and to end on an optimistic note, I like the 17th century sentencing and recommend we bring it back:

and he was whipped and placed in the pillory.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 3:22 PM

Admin – a suggestion on keeping recent articles available from the top of the page.

Problem: As you add new aricles at top left the ones on the very right drop away! Almost as if being binned into a memory hole.

Solution: allow a scroll at the right hand edge so that these older links are easily available to readers. Only a minor coding change without any change to your front page.

Tallis Marsh
Tallis Marsh
Jan 19, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I concur! I’m sure many of us will appreciate a scroll on the right hand edge so we can access the older articles. Thanks in advance, OffG!

Oliver
Oliver
Jan 19, 2020 3:19 PM

HM Armed Forces operations in Syria follow the doctrine of Major General Sir Frank Kitson who learnt his stuff in Kenya in the 1950s. Murder, torture, rape the staples of the British military’s modern terrorist ability. NATO doctrine too.

Joe
Joe
Jan 19, 2020 3:16 PM

BigB
BigB
Jan 19, 2020 3:03 PM

This is an important article: one of the few that dares to express that Douma et al are not mere false flags …they a darkly psychotic form of ‘snuff propaganda porn’ (including the recycling and rearanging of ‘props’ that were until recently animate human souls with a lifetime of possibility abnegated for ideology). The Working Group on Syria is part of a small counter-narrative subset – along with Sister Agnes Mariam, Vanessa Beeley, RT (on occasion), UK Column, The Indicter, Prof. Marcello Ferrada de Noli – who are willing to state plainly that this is child murder. Now I wholeheartedly commend Kevin that we should name and shame the culprits and their supporters.

“No, I think it is time for plainer, no-holds-barred language describing these people for the true evil they are – until the truth and label sticks.”

I had a similar epiphany in early 2016. The barbaric of murder of starved and thirsty children at Rashidin – Syrian innocence lured by much needed sweets and drinks …only to be blown apart in front of their mothers. Anyone who supports the White Helmets terrorist construct and their NATO-proxy child-murderers needs to be exposed. But what if that trail of exposure leads back to the leader of the Labour party: who had just personally endorsed the charity funding of the White Helmets? And continued to support the Jo Cox Foundation of Syrian humanitarian bombers and R2P interventionists? Which itself is a front for the dark money web of ‘philanthrocapitalism’ that is the shadow support network for regime change crimes against humanity. This is when righteous indignation meets the dark wall of silence around the social construction of reality. Especially if you put Jeremy Corbyn in the frame.

What this means is the ability to frame dark actors for the true evil they are has to be a two-way flow. Meaning is created across networks, not just by naming …but by naming and agreeing across narrative communities. Again, this is not abstruse: it is social reality. Social reality is not reality: it is a consensual constructivism. Significant numbers of others have to be in a position of consensual agreement in order to challenge the dominant narrative(s). So I echo the sentiment that many can see that the dominant narrative – especially concerning Syria – is deeply flawed. But they are as yet unwilling to admit that the depth of the flaw is in fact a tear in social reality that cannot be easily healed.

This is the aspect of social reality called ‘universe maintenance’. Doxa is the reality constructing belief set – the episteme of interacting beliefs. The narrative has two main aspects: ortho-doxa and hetero-doxa – the orthodox maintaining and heterodox subverting discourses. In order to truly subvert the hegemonic orthodoxy – there has to be a social moment of criticality when the heterodox is no longer deniable. To reach that point: the intrajecting true has to be believable to the hegemonic orthodoxy. Now we have a third mode: para-doxa …when the true ‘state of affairs’ is not believable – it is easily rejected as paradoxical to the reigning consensus covenant of the true. This is universe maintaining: whereby the the totality of the dominant discourse actually subsumes or repels any paradox as a half-truth or ameliorated, disarmed less-than-true (‘conspiracy theory’). This is known as ‘recuperation’. Anything that meets the dominant discourse has to be explained in the terms of the dominant discourse …accommodative and recommending itself to the dominant discourse. Which then becomes a part of the dominant universe of discourse.

A moment of the true is like a barb to a bubble. It has to be contained and wrapped in narrative that describes and explains it into a consumable form. The full realisation of the propagandic child murder in Syria – tacitly supported by the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn in particular – would destroy the symbolic universe of social reality. Of which it is my personal experience no one really wants to do. The correlations, direct and indirect links, and universally maintained orthodoxy of narrative discourse point to an accomodation. An explanation or multivariate set of explanations that problem shift and ascribe blame to imaginary actors. To deflect or defend the personal self. Because the personal self is independently situated outside the social sphere. Or is it?

Seeing the real event as it happens requires the perspicacity of social inclusion. We all create social reality together: with our without layers of dualising exclusion that protects us from the way the world really is. Who would vote to legitimise the supporters of NATO and the child-murderers of Syria? 31 million legitimising independent social actors just did. Do you suppose they did so in full knowledge that it is child-murder they were supporting? Or did they create universe maintaining accommodations to the truth? That is how powerful the screening discourses and legitimising orthodoxic narrative mythology is. It is not that it cannot be subverted: its just that calling out the true evil has to be heard in unison by large or social small assemblages willing to totally change everything – including themselves. In order to transition to a different social reality …one that accommodates the truth. One which will look nothing like the social reality we choose to maintain as is.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Jan 19, 2020 1:47 PM

My first attempt didn’t get through. Herewith second.

It seems to me that the internal affairs of the Russian Federation, although they may have some impact on external geopolitical issues, are a matter for them. At the present time the relevant question regarding the RF is as follows: Question 1. Is Russia a revionist state intent on an expansionist foreign policy? Answer NO. But it is not going to tolerate NATO expansion into its own strategic zones, namely, Ukraine, Georgia and the North Caucusas. Question 2. Is the Anglo-Zionist empire in open of pursuit of a world empire intent on destroying any sovereign state – including first and foremost Russia – which stands in its way? Answer YES. This really is so blatant that anyone who is ethnically challenged should seek psychiatric help. In Polls conducted around the world the US is always cited as the most dangerous enemy of world peace, including in the US itself. Thus a small influential (unfortunately deranged) cabal based in the west has insinuated its way into the institutions of power and poses a real and present danger to world peace.

This being the case it is imperative to push all and any ‘normal’ western governments and shape public opinion and discourse (except the nut-jobs like Poland and the Baltics) into diplomacy. Wind down NATO just as the Warsaw Pact was wound down. that will do for starters. Of course the PTB in all the western institutions – the media (whores) the deep state, the Atlantic Council, the Council on Foreign Relations, Chatham House the Arms merchants, the security services GCHQ, the CIA, Mossad and the rest will oppose this with all the power at their command. This is the present primary site of struggle, mainly propagandistic, cultural and economic, but with overtones of kinetic warfare.

Similar diplomatic initiatives must be directed at China. Yes, I know all about China’s social credit policy, I don’t particularly like the idea of 24 hour system of surveillance, and I wouldn’t want to live there, but is already a virtual fait accompli in the west. Again it bears repeating that sovereign states should be left to their own devices. After all ‘States have neither permanent friends of allies, only permanent interests. (Lord Palmerston, 19 century British Statesman). No more ‘humanitarian interventions’ thank you very much. How about Mind our own Business non-interventions.

I make no apologies for being a foreign policy realist – if that hasn’t become apparent by this stage!

BigB
BigB
Jan 19, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Francis:

The Russian Federation is involved is strategic partnership with China in consolidating the Eurasian ‘supercontinent’ into the world island. One which is slowly being drawn together into a massive market covering 70% of the world’s population, 75% of energy resources, and 70% of GDP. I’d call that expansionist, wouldn’t you?

Market mechanisms and methodology are exponentially expansionist, extractivist, and extrapolative. Market propaganda is free and equal exchange coupled with mutual development through comparative advantage. Everyone benefits, right?

No: markets operate as vast surplus value extractors that only operate unequally to deliver maximum competitive advantage to the suprasovereign core. Surplus value valorises surplus capital which cannot be contained in a single domestic market: so it seeks to exploit underdeveloped foreign markets …setting up dependencies and peripheries in the satellite states. Which keeps them maldeveloped. In short: Russia and China’s wealth is not just their own.

Russia and China are globalisation now. Globalist exponential expansionism, extractivism, and extrapolation is the repression of humanism and destruction of the biosphere. It can’t stop growing in the cancer stage of hyper-capitalism. We are currently consuming every resource at a material throughput increase of 3% per annum …year on year. That’s a 23 year exponential doubling of material resources. And a 46 year doubling of the doubling. How long before globalisation uses everything? How far into the race to the bottom will the market collapse?

It would be really nice to return to a Westphalian System of non-expansionist, non-extractivist sovereign nation states. It is just not even plausible under market mechanisms of extraction. There can be no material decoupling and development remains contingent on an impossible infinity: because development remains parallel and assymetrically maintained. And all major resources are depleting exponentially too. Including the nominative renewable and sustainable ones.

Degrowth; self-sufficiency; localised ‘anti-fragility’, steady-state; asymmetric development of the marginalised and the peripheralised; regenerative agroecological agriculture; human development not abstract market development; are just some of the pre-requisites of a return to sovereign states. Russia ‘sovereigntist’ globalisation is the expansionist opposite to that. The RF is part of the biggest market in the world that hoovers up as much surplus value as it can …before sending a large tranche of it to London. As much as $25bn a year in capital flight into the offshore nexus of secrecy jurisdictions. It’s a globalist expansionist market mechanism that hoovers all vitality out of the life-ground. That: I call expansionist and imperialist …of which Russia and China are now the major part.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Jan 19, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  BigB

”The Russian Federation is involved is strategic partnership with China in consolidating the Eurasian ‘supercontinent’ into the world island. One which is slowly being drawn together into a massive market covering 70% of the world’s population, 75% of energy resources, and 70% of GDP. I’d call that expansionist, wouldn’t you?”

No, I wouldn’t actually. Building roads, rail connections and other trade routes doesn’t strike me as imperial expansion. No-one is being forced to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) or into reconfiguring their internal political and economic structures, as the US does in Latin America or as the British did in India and Southern Africa. (East India Company and the British British South Africa Chartered Company). The SCO is a voluntary arrangement. Uzbekistan for example has decided not to join the central Asian Eurasian Economic Union – well that’s its prerogative. No-one is going to send any gun-boats to force them. (I am aware that Uzbekistan is a landlocked country, but I was talking figuratively.)

The EEU’s genesis has along with the SCO and BRI has been forced upon the China/Russia axis as part of an emerging counter-hegemonic alliance against the US’s imperial aggrandisement with its kowtowing vassals in tow. Russia has no claims on any of its neighbours since it is already endowed with ample land and mineral deposits. China is a key part of this essentially geopolitical bloc quite simply because the US imperial hegemon is determined to stop China’s development by all means necessary including the dragooning of contiguous military bases in US proxy states around China’s maritime borders.

A distinction should be made between rampant imperialism of the Anglo-zi0nist empire, and the response of an increasingly bloc of states who find both their sovereignty and even their existence threatened by the imperial juggernaut. What exactly did you expect them to do given the hostility and destructive intent of the Empire? Defence against imperialism is not imperialism. The defence of autonomy and sovereignty of international society and the creation of an anti-hegemonic have the potential to finally create a transformative new world order (and goodness knows we need one) announced at the end of the Cold War in 1991. This ambition finds support not only in Russia and China but in other countries ready to align with them, but also in many western countries. I obviously need to put the question again. Who is and who is not the greatest threat to world peace? Surely to pose the question is to answer it.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 11:30 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Agree Francis.
There is a move to suggest that the Old Empire retains a ‘maritime’ world and the SCO confines itself to the Eurasian land mass.
Dream on.
The Empire is DEAD. Long live the new Empire!

BigB
BigB
Jan 20, 2020 10:47 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Who is the greatest threat to world peace …and to the world itself? We are. The global carbon consumption/pollution bourgeoisie. It is the global expansionist mindset that is increasing its demands for growth – as the only solution to social problems, maldevelopment, and maldistribution caused by excessive growth. Supply has to be met by exponentially expanding markets. Whether this is voluntaristic or coerced makes very little difference to the market cancer subsuming the globe. Benign or aggressive forms of cancer are still cancer. And the net effect is the same.

Russia and China – the ‘East’ – uphold exactly the same corporate model of global governance that the ‘West’ does. Which has been made clear in every joint communique – especially BRICS communiques. I have made the case – following Professor Patrick Bond – that BRICS in particular (a literal Goldman Sachs globalist marketing ploy) – are sub-imperial, not anti-imperial. All their major institutions are dollar denominated for loans; BRI finance is in dollars; BRICS re-capitalised the IMF; Contingency Reserve Arrangements come with an IMF neoliberalising structural adjustment policy; etc. It is the same model East and West. One is merely the pseudo-benign extension of the other. The alternative to neoliberal globalisation is neoliberal globalisation. This became radiantly clear at SPIEF 2019: TINA …there is no alternative.

The perceived alternative is the reproduction of neoliberalism – which has long been think-tanked and obvious – and its transformation from ‘globalisation 3.0’ to ‘globalisation 4.0’ …trade in goods and services, with the emphasis on a transition to high-speed interconnectivity and decoupled service economies. Something like the Trans-Eurasian Information Super Highway (TASIM)? With a sovereigntist and social inclusivity compact. So the neoliberal leopard can change its spots?

No. Whilst your argument is sound and well constructed: it is reliant on the early 20th century Leninist definition of ‘imperialism’ as a purely militarist phenomena. Imperialism mutated since then – from military to financial (which are not necessarily exclusive sets) – and is set to metastasise again into ‘green imperialism’ of man over man (and it is an andrarchic principle) …and man (culture) over nature. Here your argument falls down to an ecological and bio-materialist critique. Cancer is extractivist and expansionist wherever it grows.

Russia is the fourth largest primary energy consumer on the planet. Disregarding hydro – which is not truly ecological – it has a 1% renewable penetration. It is a hydrocarbon behemoth set to grow the only way it knows how – consuming more hydrocarbons. They cannot go ‘green’: no one can. And a with a global ecological footprint of 3.3 planets per capita, per annum, this is not sustainable. Now or ever.

So a distinction needs to be made between the old rampant neoliberal globalisation model (3.0) – the Anglo-Zionist imperialist model – and the emergent neoliberal globalisation model (4.0) of Russia/China’s rampant ecological imperialism? And a further distinction needs to be made about what humanity has to do to survive this distinction between aggressive and quasi-benign cancer forms. Because we will be just as dead, just as quick if we cannot even identify the underlying cancer we are all suffering from.

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  BigB

Big B sit down ultra! China and Russia rent empires and have no desire to be! If you’re a left winger you’re another poor example of one and more than likely a Trotskyist

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:14 AM
Reply to  Koba

Love the nickname, Josef.

Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect
Jan 19, 2020 1:47 PM

This is because if a chemical attack did not take place and Assad was not responsible it seems highly likely that the civilians including children were murdered to facilitate a fabrication.

And were our own intelligence agencies involved in a staged event, considering the refusal to even establish the basic facts in the days following?

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This is the sort of conclusion you must come to if you are into Islamophobic conspiracy theories. The notion that this kind of slaughter took place to “facilitate” a false flag is analogous to the 9/11 conspiracism that was on display here a while back and that manifested itself through the inclusion of NYU 9/11 Truther Mark Crispin Miller on Tim Hayward’s Assadist propaganda team.

Sad, really.

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle
Jan 19, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

Go on Louis, remind us about the ‘terrorist passport’ miraculously found at the foot of the collapsed tower with a page coveniently left open displaying a ‘Tora Bora’ stamp – I kove that bit.

I mean who, apart from half the worlds scientific community is not totally convinced by such compelling evidence, especially when allied to the re-writing of the laws of physics in order to rationlise the ludicrous 2 planes 3 towers conspiracy theory?

Next you’ll be telling us it was necessary for the US to invade Afghanistan and Iraq for reasons few American’srecall beyond the neocon fantasy contructed on 11th Septemember, 2001.

Dave Hansell
Dave Hansell
Jan 19, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

It’s clear to a blind man on a galloping horse from this comment of yours Mr Proyect that concepts such as objective evidence, logical and rational deduction, the scientific method etc are beyond your ken.

Faced with the facts of a collapsing narrative of obvious bullshit and lies you have bought into, which you are incapable of facing up to, it is unsurprising that you are reduced to such puerile school playground level deflections.

So come on, try getting out of the gutter and upping your game. Because this fare is nothing short of sad and pathetic.

We know from the evidence of those who actually know their arse from their elbow on these matters that the claims of an attack using chemical weapons on this site are unsustainable.

Which leaves the issue of the bodies at the site. Given they did not lose their lives as a result of the unscientific bullshit explanation you desperately and clearly want to be the case the question is how did those civilians lose their lives? How did their corpses find their way to that location?

Did Assad and his “regime” murder them and move the bodies to that site (over which they had no control) in order to create a false flag event to get themselves falsely accused of an NBC attack Louis? Because that’s the only reasonable and rational deduction one can imply from your argument and approach.

It is certainly more reasoned, rational and in keeping with the scientific method (you might want to try it sometime) to surmise that the bodies on site, having not been the result of the claimed and unsustainable narrative you have naively committed to, either died on site from some other cause or were brought to the site for the purpose of creating your fantasy narrative.

In the latter case it is further a matter of rational and reasoned deduction that such an occurrence could only be carried it in circumstances in which whoever carried it out had actual, effective and physical control of a geographical location and area situated within a wider conflict zone.

Again, it remains a piece of factual reality that this location was not under the control of the Assad ‘regime.’ Not least because otherwise there would be no logical or rational military reason for the de facto Syrian Government and it’s armed forces to waste resources attacking it.

Unless of course he buys I to the conspiracy theory and hat they somehow organised a false flag implicating themselves?

I’m sure everyone else here in the reality based community is waiting with bated breath for you to ‘explain’ how they did this Louis.

I know I am. I could do with a good laugh.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:38 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

This is the sort of conclusion you must come to if you are into Islamophobic conspiracy theories.

Umm – the assumption that Muslims DIDN’T do it is “Islamophobic”? Even on your own terms you’re not making much sense these days, Louis.

lundiel
lundiel
Jan 19, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

Hi I’m Louis an unrepentant Marxist and I willfully refuse to use block-quotes.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 19, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

More proyectile vomitus in defence of child-murdering salafist vermin. How low can this creature descend?

Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect
Jan 19, 2020 10:20 PM

Richard, such abusive language only indicates your inability to discuss the matter at hand. In general, a detached sarcasm works much better in polemics. You need to read Lenin to see how it is done. I should add that I am referring to V.I. Lenin, not John Lenin who wrote “Crippled Inside”.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 2:28 AM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

You defended the salafist butchers with lies, proyectile-do you not even comprehend your own sewage? Or did someone else write it and you just appended your paw-print?

Dave Hansell
Dave Hansell
Jan 20, 2020 12:41 PM

Apologies here. There is an open goal and the ball needs to be put in the back of the net:

Seems that Louis here is well ahead of the curve in terms of Fukuyama’s well known observation about the end of history.

For Louise history, in terms of the progress and development of human knowledge, stopped around a century ago with whatever Lenin wrote.

But that’s what happens to those who only read one book.

Sad really.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 20, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

You come across more as Yaxley – Lenin mr Tommy Proyect – but he is a MI5 stooge unlike you …cough cough.

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 11:14 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

Lenin hates Trotsky! Trotsky was a power mad maniac who wanted a permanent war state to somehow spread his specific brand of “ahem” socialism, which won’t win you friends! “Hi yeah sorry we killed your family in a war we started to save you but yippee Trotsky is now in charge so stop complaining”! You’re just a bunch of liars the trots

Leonardo
Leonardo
Jan 26, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

Lol, you talk about abusive language? You are really shameless…

To anybody who might not know this guy, here is how he deals with people he disagrees with on his own blog (read the comment section if you are interested):

https://louisproyect.org/2019/11/22/douma-chlorine-gas-and-occams-razor/?unapproved=401764&moderation-hash=dcd484a51ba7cd94bb10a9ab17c509de#comment-401764

Maggie
Maggie
Jan 19, 2020 11:02 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

learn to use the internet which has the information you need to learn the truth:

Acting out a chemical attack?

Jimmy Dore hits the nail every time!!

Didn’t you just love George Carlin, identifies just what the problem is with dicks like Proyect.

Maggie
Maggie
Jan 19, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  Maggie

Here’s another Jimmy Dore Vid from 2017…
Watch and learn…

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 11:16 PM
Reply to  Maggie

Maggie don’t take jimmy bore as some truth teller he’s a bland progressive with revolutionary slogans like proyect! He also has a habit of equating Stalin with Hitler in that god awful nasal accent of his

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 22, 2020 7:17 AM
Reply to  Maggie

Thems White Helmets is always so neat and tidy. Their mammies must have insisted that they always look their best.

paul
paul
Jan 19, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

The British taxpayer funded head choppers and throat slitters in Syria routinely committed massacres and filmed their victims. The resulting footage was passed off by tame media hacks as “evidence” of regime atrocities.

Koba
Koba
Jan 21, 2020 11:09 PM
Reply to  Louis Proyect

Death to the Trotskyists
Fuck proyect your name calling says it all!
Islamophobes indeed?! What an idiot

Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle
Jan 19, 2020 12:50 PM

The alternative media, and a smattering of truth tellers are locked in an asymmetrical information-war with the establishment – with an all too obvious ‘David & Goliath’ sort of dynamic underlying it.

The question asked at the heart of this article is how to break the vice like grip information managers hold over various geopolitical narratives, referencing events in Douma in particular.

Alnost reflexively 9/11 comes to mind – a fairly unambiguous example of mass murder for which the official account does not withstand even the most cursory form of scrutiny.
Professionals even went so far as to purger themselves while the investigating committee admitted they were ‘set up to fail’ (to quote its chairman).

Yet the public, instead of shredding Bush, limb from limb (for the lies that were told) rolled onto their back while the neoncons tickled their collective belly as you might do with a particulalrly adorable puppy,
So if we can’t even get to the bottom of events in the middle of New York what realistic chance of doing so in a hostile war zone like Douma?

On balance racism, together with other forms of collective loathing is the most likely reason why this unsatisfactory state of affairs is unlikely to change.

A collective ‘them and us’ mindset makes it far easier for information managers to manipulate a visceral hatred and fear of ‘the other’.
Today it is Qasem Soleimani westerners are taugyt to despise, yesterday it was Bashar al-Assad, before that Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein, Muammar al-Gaddafi, Nicolás Maduro ……. the list just goes on and on.
Information managers simply wind the public up so that collective anger can be directed toward governments or individuals they are trying to bring down – recent history tells us that the public are largely oblivious to this process, so thus never learn from their mistakes.

Perhaps one thing western leaders, and the US in particular can always rely on, is the ease with which the public can be persuaded to believe that certain bogeymen pose a grave threat to ‘our way of life’ while failing to notice that it is in fact our own leaders who are carrying out the worst atrocities.

harry law
harry law
Jan 19, 2020 2:12 PM
Reply to  Harry Stotle

Harry Stotle, ..”Perhaps one thing western leaders, and the US in particular can always rely on, is the ease with which the public can be persuaded to believe that certain bogeymen pose a grave threat to ‘our way of life’. That’s true Hermann Goring had it about right with this quote…
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictatorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

nottheonly1
nottheonly1
Jan 19, 2020 12:30 PM

His career was plagued by various sex scandals

I would like to know what kind of ‘sex scandals’ these were. In the 17th century?

Considering the fact that most in the west live in a moral 17th century today, what century must those in the 17th have been in – morally?

Higgins and his ilk are not Homo Sapiens any longer, They have evoleved into ‘Homo Unethicosiens’ – ruthlessness in its perfection. Paid for, instigated and supported by your regime in question.

Nowhere on this planet can be found more ruthless regimes than in the west. “East’ has nowadays even become a reason to threaten/approve of sanctions, violence and wars against Eastern Nations.

In an awkward coincidence, the people who are instrumental in the emanation of blatant lies, deception and propaganda (which is somewhat redundant since propaganda is the combination of deceiving by lying and inverting the truth) are reminiscent of ‘Dumb and Dumber’ in an eternal self-exciting cycle of acting ever more stupid as time goes on. In other words (credit to George Carlin), Higgins et al are acting more stupid as time moves on and requires them to wiggle themselves out of the official cess pool of stinking lies they invented, promoted and distributed/published –

– resulting in the violent and brutal deaths of innocent Syrian/Middle Eastern Human Beings. Lots of women and mothers with children. Thus, the demographics will show a drastic decline of the Syrian population. Putin just gave an assessment of the state of the Russian Nation – emphasizing the demographics of newborns versus deceased. Bellingcat et al are guilty by association of crimes against humanity and for cover ups of terror and war crimes.

Amazing that wrong parking will lead to a penalty, while this terroristic and ruthless behavior goes scot free. Or does it?

The notion of ‘waking someone up’ – often used in conjunction with Western populations and their allegedly sleep like state of being – can be discarded onto the heap of expressions that have no more meaning. This has nothing to do with sleep. The people are not sleeping. And if they were and one would wake them up, then they would be wake – but no more conscious than before.

This is a matter of consciousness (!) and the entire dark empire and its minions, quislings, mercenaries and inklings can not simply be woken up to get more consciousnes. ‘More consciousness’ requires more consciousness and since these folks have weaned consciousness a long time ago, the chances of the populations to rid themselves of these pathetic excuses for decent Human Beings are decreasing by the day. There is a self dynamic in the subscription to fascism. And the further Higgins et al and his paymasters et al are allowed to continue with their despicable, deadly and terroristic ways – the more difficult it will become for the population to declare a ‘RESET’.

(Not going to link to a Mussolini image – his most famous one – because that might be offensive to his great-granddaughter.)

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 12:07 PM

Name and maim.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jan 19, 2020 12:04 PM

I would not limit this focus to Eliot Higgins: he is small-fry, a trumped up propagandist.

How about focussing on the following wastrels?

1. Andrew Roberts -a white supremacist racist peddling wars in the Middle East after fleeing like a coward to the US with his six (!) children when I suggested to PM Cameron that the ueber fascist wastrel might like to experience war in the raw, namely having his leg blown off by a buried bomb in Afghanistan.
2, The foul mouthed narcissist James Delingpole, whose puerile strapline is ‘I am always right’. Whilst he is indeed always far to the right, and being slightly to the right of political centre myself, I grant the right to hold far right or far left economic views up to the point that you start starving people to death, killing people for their political views etc etc, I have no time for puerile emotional 14 year olds in their physical 50s saying they fervently believe in ‘very high levels of inequality’ when all they have done in life is get a private education from Daddy, smoke dope at Oxford with Cameron and generally be a puerile insulting c**t in the media for 30 years. When they claim to be a ‘central player in exposing climate fraud’, I merely laugh. I was addressing climate issues in 1990, Delingpole only got interested in about 2008. So much for a trumped up opportunist having a long-term conviction…….
3. Allister Heath: this far right editor of the Daily Telegraph is now repeatedly running unadulterated lies trying to claim that Putin has impoverished the Russian people. It is far beyond due asking him the crushing question: ‘if you knew that eating your own genitals on video was the punishment for telling anything but the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, would you wish to publish some economic truth about Russia for the first time?’ I doubt he would answer, as in a morally degenerate nation like Britain, criminal lying is a means to middle class wealth. But it is a question worthy of a viral video, because it would confront institutional evil head on.
4. The right-on editor of the Guardian, Katherine Viner. I consider her the apotheosis of PC woke bullshitting cretinism now so prevalent in our collapsing-at-the-seams culture. She edits an organ so divorced from reality that if she had an uncontrollable orgasm induced by a non-verbal highly female-emancipating male, she would probably accuse him of rape. Note the use of the word ‘probably’: it is the accepted way of lying about improbable events and having a probabilistic get-out clause. Perish the thought that a white heterosexual male could get off from court proceedings by stealing the woke left’s verbal thunder…….I mean, what if Julian Assange were to claim it was ‘highly probable’ that Dork Cheney, Paul Wolfie Zits et al knowingly induced war in Iraq to make billions for unaccountable criminal clients??

Then you can start on all the bullshitting MPs who lie for a living. Keir Starmer standing in 20`17 for a Labour Party respecting the Brexit Referendum outcome. Emily Thornberry kissing ass to Jews and Americans in a vain attempt to become a faux ‘leader’. Jo Swinson saying ‘Bollocks to Democracy’. Luciana Berger saying ‘Bollocks to non-Jews’. Et al, et al, et al.

No end to targets when you target unconscionable hypocrisy in public places………..

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Delingpole even looks like one of those hybrid monstrosities out of a Lovecraft story. Come to think of it, he looks a bit like Lovecraft. Only not as healthy. And that’s saying something!

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

cf. Lovecraft’s “The Festival”:

“The nethermost caverns,” wrote the mad Arab, “are not for the fathoming of eyes that see; for their marvels are strange and terrific. Cursed the ground where dead thoughts live new and oddly bodied, and evil the mind that is held by no head. Wisely did Ibn Schacabao say, that happy is the tomb where no wizard hath lain, and happy the town at night whose wizards are all ashes. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the very worm that gnaws; till out of corruption horrid life springs, and the dull scavengers of earth wax crafty to vex it and swell monstrous to plague it. Great holes secretly are digged where earth’s pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl.”

Willem
Willem
Jan 19, 2020 9:53 AM

Nice quote from Hitchins on Higgins, but it pains me to say that it comes long after the fact, where everybody with half a brain could have made up himself that Douma, like Ghouta and Khan Shaykhun, was not what the mainstream made it look like it was intended to be.

It also pains me to say that Hitchins does not give any alternative reason for why Higgins story is fabricated and what the implications could be.

Not that I do not understand why Hitchins cannot go that far. But to praise him for not going that far and just telling us the obvious (in an eloquent way), but not all, is like praising a person who did a little bit of thinking for you (in an eloquent way), in order for you to stop thinking and move on.

When I am reading the news, I am not looking for preachers who tell the obvious in such a way that it stops me from thinking. Instead I look for people, real journalists, who tell me something that nobody could have known, since the information was not there until the journalist found it for us.

This was from James Corbett, just days after Khan Shaykhun (and if you have seen one ‘gas attack’ done by Syrian forces, you have seen all, since the storybook is always the same), also reported at OffG and clear enough for anyone to know that all these gas attacks are bullshit and made up for just one reason: to keep the war in Syria going!

https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/15/video-the-syria-strikes-a-conspiracy-theory/

But that is not what Hitchins is saying, or is he?

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:50 PM
Reply to  Willem

a person who did a little bit of thinking for you (in an eloquent way), in order for you to stop thinking and move on.

Excellent point. And a very familiar strategy – to confess that something isn’t quite right so that folks can shout “Boo!” and throw some tomatoes …before everything just proceeds as usual.

lundiel
lundiel
Jan 19, 2020 9:19 AM

Before Bellingcat, he (Higgins) was “Brown Moses”. An Abrahamic legend from the Middle East? No. A pasty white guy in his bedroom writing a daily journal (btl in Guardian articles) about the Libyan regime change, which became the Syrian regime change. I thought, at the time, he was on the ground in Syria, he even had followers from the Sunni community, he was a strong supporter of regime change and supposed atrocities by forces loyal to Assad. I mention this because it’s important to inform people who the real Eliot Higgins is: An establishment stooge, an inveterate liar, a video gamer with Aspergers(?), a copy of Janes Weapons Systems and Small Arms, an imaginary bedroom warrior, some strange psychosexual fantasies and a bad temper.

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Jan 19, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Being an aspie does not make someone more likely to behave like Eliot Higgins.

lundiel
lundiel
Jan 19, 2020 10:04 AM

No, I don’t know for certain if he is. It’s a feeling I got from his inflexible arguments BTL in the Guardian and his obsessive nature.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jan 19, 2020 12:09 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Just another ‘Phillip Cross’

A pimpernel of the shit hole of the deep-state.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 19, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  lundiel

An establishment stooge, an inveterate liar, a video gamer with Aspergers(?), a copy of Janes Weapons Systems and Small Arms, an imaginary bedroom warrior, some strange psychosexual fantasies and a bad temper.

So why isn’t he in Boris’s cabinet?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 20, 2020 7:51 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Someone found a turd, floating in a basket among the bull-rushes, and named it Elliott.

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Jan 20, 2020 3:43 PM

It is Eliot with only one l and one t.

Andy
Andy
Jan 19, 2020 7:23 AM

Perhaps the unreleased Russia report is part of this narrative. Johnson quite happy to take some flack as it encourages the Russians bad story among those on the left who might be more inclined to look for truth putting this aside to attack Johnson instead.

Terje M
Terje M
Jan 19, 2020 6:50 AM

Congrats to Bellingcat for winning the Machiavelli Prize 2019, (award ceremony Feb 2020), from the Dutch Machiavelli Foundation, I can’t think of a more deserving winner. The board awarding the prize consists mostly of important Dutch editors and leaders in the PR-industry, but also the Dutch military is on the board.

Bellingcat actually has significant ties to the Netherlands (lots of funding + its own office in the Hague), and the Prize can only be interpreted as some sort of sick inside joke.

This award is granted to “a person or organization who has excelled in public communication. The political philosopher Machiavelli makes one immediately think about his principle ‘the end justifies the means’. The Machiavelli award is granted to the person or organization who has been the most effective in putting this principle into practice.” (“Always in a positive way and for a positive cause” is the disclaimer, but this can mean just about anything).

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Jan 19, 2020 8:32 AM
Reply to  Terje M

The end justifies the means?? What end, by what means?

Oliver
Oliver
Jan 19, 2020 4:57 AM

HM Armed Forces and HM Government have been and are complicit in murder. HM Armed Forces most certainly know the true nature of the 1993/2001 WTC events, as well as such events as the 2015 attack on Tianjin. The Crown, together with its financial arm, is very deeply into all this and has been for centuries. We must acknowledge that we are ruled by unelected, unaccountable murderers as a start.

Yr Hen Gof
Yr Hen Gof
Jan 19, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  Oliver

I’d find it very hard to disagree with anything you’ve written here.

Further to our government and secret intelligence services’ appalling behaviour abroad I’d add that these very same bodies have attacked and undermined what passes for democracy here in GB and they’ve been doing it for well over a century.

Certainly, between the wars it was workers’ organisations, trade unions and Labour politicians that obsessed them; fascism both here and abroad troubled them not one jot. After all, didn’t they all go to the same schools? Leastways that’s the excuse MI5 give in their official history.

MI5 and MI6 who are charged with ‘the defence of the realm’, obviously see that as including turning a blind eye to the illegal actions of the CIA and Mossad, who appear to operate here, without let or hindrance; such appears to be the corrosive impact of those two latter agencies, it could be argued that our intelligence agencies go out of their way to aid and abet them.

If there’s a true enemy within, then it’s MI5, MI6 and doubtless other alphabet agencies, who appear to be serving the establishment and the enemies of democracy.

We are indeed governed by unaccountable murderers and their accomplices.

Vierotchka
Vierotchka
Jan 19, 2020 4:43 AM

Well said.

Graham William Phillips has quite a lot to say about Bellingcat and Higgins, he has for some years now been debunking them online and in videos.