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Let’s Talk About Your Alleged “#Resistance”

Joe Giambrone

In 2016, Hillary Clinton deserved to lose, and she did. Her deception, her cheating in the primary elections, was well-documented, despicable, dishonest, untrustworthy. Her money-laundering scheme at DNC should have been prosecuted under campaign finance laws.

Her record of warmongering and gleefully gloating over death and destruction was also well established. On national TV she bragged about the mutilation of Moammar Qaddafi: “We came, we saw, he died!”

Clinton also lied to the country about “Weapons of Mass Destruction” in Iraq and voted for that obviously illegal war. This after 8 years of her husband’s genocidal sanctions killed a minimum of 500,000 innocent Iraqi children.

This person was undeserving of anyone’s support.

What Bernie Sanders suffered and endured in 2016 was outrageous. Yet, he persisted and to this day attempts to help common Americans as much as he can. He does what he believes to be the right thing. His integrity and his record of fighting for working Americans are not the points of contention in this race.

His opponents have instead opted for every nonsensical conspiracy theory and McCarthyite smear they can concoct, including the most ridiculous of all: the Putin theory, without a single shred of evidence to support it.

Today, however, Senator Bernie Sanders is the only Democrat who beats Trump in poll after poll. The only one. This is no small matter. Trump needs to be beaten in the tangled Electoral College, where a simple numerical victory isn’t enough.

Bernie wins, and he has the best overall shot of changing the course of history, steering America away from plutocracy and fascism.

That crucial race is happening right now in the primaries. If Bernie Sanders doesn’t secure 50% of all delegates, then DNC insiders have already signaled that they will steal the nomination and give it to someone else—who will lose to Trump. The real election for the future of America is on Super Tuesday.

It’s either Trump or Bernie. That’s your choice. Your only choice.

Where is your so-called “#Resistance” now?

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paul
paul
Mar 5, 2020 7:38 PM

Looks like Pocahontas has thrown in the towel now, along with Buttplug and Bloomie.
So you can’t Vote For The Vagina or Vote For The Queer any more.
Just a straight choice between Boynie and Creepy Joe.
Two old straight white men.
Not very woke.
Unless Crooked Hillary makes a comeback.
You’d think one of them would at least have the decency to pretend to be gay or something.
More diversity required.
Maybe Boynie could black up or something, Trudeau style..

Orage
Orage
Mar 5, 2020 4:22 PM

We can all wish that Sanders gets the nomination and then gets on to beat Trump. But like what happened in Britain, even some within the Labour party would rather see a tory victory than for a ‘socialist’ to win and govern. In US the word socialist has become a byword for a real evil person who wants to spend your hard earned money on social good.
Lets face it, the success of capitalism has been to convince everyone that they can also be mega rich whilst actually reducing this chance. The capitalists control everything, the money, the banks, the industry, the press and the politicians. There is no chance of change within this obviously manipulated system however much we wish that there would be.

DoctorFix
DoctorFix
Mar 5, 2020 12:37 PM

That brain dead Bidens campaign has thus far been “resurrected” is proof of how corrupt the entire process is.

Gall
Gall
Mar 4, 2020 3:34 AM

Bernie sold out and caved in by endorsing the evil witch over the objections of his base. Many of us signed a petition when it was obvious that the primary was rigged for Bernie to run as an Independent but instead he went down with the Democratic Titanic.

Again the fix is in. Looking at the numbers for Super Tuesday with the senile old perv uncle Joe in the lead. It’s obvious the Smartmatic voting machines and the Super Delegates have chosen their man.Joe Biden to lose.

Igor
Igor
Mar 4, 2020 12:53 AM

If only, every US President has been from a few elite, ultra wealthy families. All 45 Presidents are related to each other. Both Bushes and Obama are publicly acknowledged to be related to actor Richard H. Macy.
The love fest between Dubya and the Obamas is all in the family, kissin’ cousins.
This is why the Winner always says what the People want to hear, then in office, they do the opposite for the benefit of the ultra wealthy.
The USA is ruled by the hidden Owners of the Corporations, not the common shareholders who think they have a share in real ownership.
Gabbard is who everyone should be looking at. Just like Dr. Ron Paul in 2012, Gabbard has been marginalized, pushed out of the news cycle, and off the campaign trail.
They fear Gabbard.
But there would still be that genealogical hurdle for Gabbard to get over. If she is not related, then Gabbard in the White House would be a first time ever event in the history of the United States of America.
Sanders is related. They do not fear him.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Mar 3, 2020 11:18 PM

Larry Johnson over sst – amongst their unworthy hyperbolic suspicion of communist Bernie, lays a litmus that seems notable – if Bernie wins the ‘closed voting states’ convincingly then he is unstoppabble.

Craig Murray has chimed in with a touch of optmism that he will because the grassroots know about the last railroading and aren’t going to allow the same with the super delegate heist this time.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 4, 2020 2:46 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Sanders’ campaign died today. Bidet did strongly enough to ensure a brokered Convention, and the end there is Berniecide.

Ben Barbour
Ben Barbour
Mar 3, 2020 11:18 PM

Bernie is the best choice, but it is interesting that you brought up the genocidal sanctions on Iraq.

Bernie supported those sanctions. He also supported the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 which reaffirmed US support for the sanctions even after 500,000 children had been killed.

Bernie also voted for Clinton’s 1999 bombing campaign on Kosovo.

All that said, yes, Bernie is the best option.

DoctorFix
DoctorFix
Mar 5, 2020 12:35 PM
Reply to  Ben Barbour

Which only goes to show that the american voting fool doesnt really give a damn about empire but those promised “goodies”.

Ben Barbour
Ben Barbour
Mar 5, 2020 3:25 PM
Reply to  DoctorFix

Yep I agree. I wish I could vote for an actual anti war candidate, but at this point I’m just voting for harm reduction.

Brozza
Brozza
Mar 25, 2020 10:05 AM
Reply to  Ben Barbour

Isn’t that what most ‘sane’ voters around the world do?
Vote for the lesser of the evil pricks, despite the propaganda from the MSM machine, in any country that holds an election.

paul
paul
Mar 3, 2020 10:12 PM

The Deranged Fascist Left is even more rabid and demented than Trump and his cronies, whether their figurehead is Boynie or Buttplug or Biden or Bloomie.
Whatever happens, we’re screwed.

Orage
Orage
Mar 5, 2020 4:25 PM
Reply to  paul

What left?

paul
paul
Mar 5, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  Orage

The Identity Politics Globo Homo Cat Lady Soros/ Counterpunch/ Democracy Now controlled opposition Faux Left.
That’s the only “Left” there is now.

clickkid
clickkid
Mar 3, 2020 9:55 PM

If the general situation, financial, economic and ‘viral’ – continues moving in the same direction as at present, then I think there is a better than even chance of the election being cancelled.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Mar 3, 2020 9:55 PM

Well, the BBC is bigging up Joe Biden right now, yet another of its ridiculous pieces of propaganda utterly devoid of its duty to serve its license payors, who are the British people, not the neoconservative banking elite.

When they spout bullshit that 20% of UK workers could miss work ‘due to coronavirus’, when we have had precisely 36 deaths in a population of 65 million plus, you know that like climate change, they spout the 1% probability as the mainstream narrative….

It just shows what folks are up against when media is so cravenly serving those who do not pay them.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 4, 2020 7:07 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

At one stage, only 36 or some other low number, had died of the Black Death. Why do you imagine that today’s situation will not change? Have you heard that CoVid 19 persists on surfaces for up to nine days, unlike the few hours that the flu viruses do?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 3, 2020 9:31 PM

In the Guardian sewer some creature is attempting to smear the Left as homophobic because they didn’t like the corporatist slime Buttigieg. Identity Politics is surely the ruling parasites’ cleverest ‘Divide and Rule’ tactic ever.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Mar 3, 2020 9:01 PM

“If Bernie Sanders doesn’t secure 50% of all delegates, then DNC insiders have already signaled that they will steal the nomination and give it to someone else—who will lose to Trump. The real election for the future of America is on Super Tuesday.”

While Bernie spent more than three decades advocating for economic social justice Biden spent those same three decades promoting social repression.”

“The 1990s saw Biden take aim at civil liberties, authoring anti-terror bills that, among other things, “gutted the federal writ of habeas corpus,” as one legal scholar later reflected. It was this earlier legislation that led Biden to brag to anyone listening that he was effectively the author of the Bush-era PATRIOT ACT, which, in his view, didn’t go far enough. He inserted a provision into the bill that allowed for the militarization of local law enforcement and again suggested deploying the military within US borders.”

How interesting, it’s Obama who gave the “cue” for Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Beto, Rice, and the entire slippery gang to circle the wagons in support of the most reactionary warmongering candidate running. The same Obama who released drones every Tuesday morning killing brown and blacks throughout the Middle East and Africa– the majority of slaughtered were innocent women and children.

The desperation of the national security state is reflected by The DNC’s Shenanigans. The security state would rather promote a crooked, warmongering, lying, racist who barely can put together two logical thoughts then accept a candidate who represents a hopeful future for the next generation.

The DNC’s message is very clear– they’re a “private party” and the working-class are NOT invited. In fact, they’re saying more than that–if uninvited workers and the marginalized dare to enter they’ll be tossed out on their arse

In plain sight the mainstream media news is telling millions that NO one can stop the military/security/surveillance/corporate state from their stranglehold over the corrupt political duopoly.

I say fight and don’t give-up! Be prepared–organize a million people march and head to Milwaukee– the future of the next generation is on the line.

But this by far is the most frightening thought, Biden, does not have all his marbles–it’s obvious–we can only guess it’s some type of dementia. So if Biden, slides through deploying a multitude of underhanded machinations and becomes the nominee, Trump, will make mincemeat of him during the debates. But if Biden, makes it to the Oval Office he’ll be “less” than a figurehead. Biden, will be as mentally acute as the early bird diner in a Florida assisted living facility after a recent stroke. The national security state will seize control– handing the “taxidermied Biden” a pen to idiotically sign off on their highly insidious agenda…..

Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn
Mar 3, 2020 9:23 PM

Pretty straightforward for me ( I don’t know about Bernie? ) but if the Super delegates and the DNC hierarchy decide to hand the nomination over to Biden then Bernie should stand as an independent.

At least even in defeat a left marker would be placed on the US political table away from the Corporate owners and the shills that hack for them in the media and elsewhere.

At least ordinary US people would know that someone is on their side.

Corbyn in the UK was described as a ‘ Marxist’ by the Tories and the unquestioning media.

Despite all that ‘ Marxist ‘ Labour got 33% of the vote.

People will vote for a ‘ socialist ‘

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Mar 3, 2020 11:26 PM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

I think Bernie, Gabbard and Paul as indies would appeal to all three sections of US voters and could even be a final triumph for Trumps anti-borg pathfinding.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Mar 3, 2020 11:40 PM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

Unfortunately, Bernie won’t abandon the Democratic Party. However, there’s a ton of Bernie supporters who will vote Third Party if Bernie doesn’t get the nomination.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 4, 2020 3:04 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

When Gene McCarthy ran as the Dove in 1968, he drained just enough votes from the Democratic Party to allow Nixon to beat Humphrey by less than a percentage point.

Turns out he was CIA, cold fact, and he endorsed Reagan 12 years later.

Things are almost never what they seem in USAmerica.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Mar 4, 2020 10:20 AM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

And he got 40% in 2017, & less than a million votes behind the Tories, & more votes than Brown or Milliband got. No doubt why his enemies within his own party were out to get him, by foul means or fouler: the only thing worse (for them) than his losing the election was his winning it.

paul
paul
Mar 3, 2020 9:59 PM

“….a crooked, warmongering, lying racist…..”
Who are you talking about?
Crooked Hillary?
Mikey Bloomberg?
Creepy Joe Biden?
Pocahontas?
Or the current Orange Incumbent?
Obomber?
When that description applies to so many people, you have to be more specific.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 5, 2020 12:06 AM

When President Bidet’s dementia is undisguisable, say after he bites Merkel’s neck in a fit of passion, they’ll say that Putin poisoned him.

paul
paul
Mar 3, 2020 8:22 PM

I’m not in the Orange Baboon’s Fan Club, but I find it sad and a little bit pathetic the way people still invest their hopes and put their faith in figures like Boynie, Tulsi or Jezza.
Boynie got shafted in 2016 and just saluted smartly and fell into line behind Crooked Hillary.
When she lost, he started singing from the approved hymn sheet. The evil Putin stole the election for Kremlin Agent Trump. He has been parroting the same nonsense for the past 4 years.
That’s when he hasn’t been shilling for regime change wars in Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia and elsewhere against “communist dictators.”
Boynie will get shafted again shortly and fall into line behind Epstein’s and Weinstein’s best mate Bloomberg or Creepy Joe, or Pocahontas, or whoever.
If by some miracle they can’t quite rig it this time and Boynie gets the nomination, the DNC will just fail to support him, and allow Trump to win. They would rather see Trump than Boynie in the White House.
Just like Starmer, Thornberry, Phillips and all the Blairite Backstabber Friends of Israel were more terrified of seeing Jezza in Number Ten than any Tory.
Dr. Johnson said that getting remarried represented the triumph of hope over experience.
The same applies to people expecting any positive change from people like Boynie, Tulsi, or Jezza.
The system just doesn’t allow it.

pete
pete
Mar 3, 2020 6:33 PM

Jeez people get a clue. How many times do you need to fall for the “this candidate is so much better and will solve everything” ruse?

Remember Obama?

The exact same bullshit was going around back then.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 3, 2020 9:28 PM
Reply to  pete

We have hope😁…. We have change😁…. We have hope and change you can believe in😁….
Well, yeah, we all know what happened during Obombers 8 years.
The entire thing is nothing but Kabuki theatre. For all those still believing the United States is a democracy.

paul
paul
Mar 5, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

The only change anybody ever got out of the Magic Negro was Chump Change.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 5, 2020 11:25 PM
Reply to  paul

Hey, but Wall Street and the big banks did okay from him, and let’s not forget the Arms manufacturers (or is that drones?) and, all those struggling hedge fund managers battling to put a couple of lobsters and a bottle of Veuve Clicquot on the table…
Yep, Obama was real down with the little ‘folks’.

tunde
tunde
Mar 3, 2020 6:24 PM

Bernie can never beat Trump because his decency will not allow him to sink into the ill-civility Trump will employ via tweet and rally and Fox news exclusive. Americans currently want someone to vocalise their most indecent thoughts in matters political so as to evade responsibility for having said it. Trump is the perfect manifestation of this “plain-speaking” (much as Bush fils was I guess).
Bernie’s rationalism has no chance against WWE/Apprentice style made-for-tv posturing. His health is questionable. And the dreaded “S” word that he is constantly labelled as acts as a massive windbreak against him electorally imho. I expect a significant Trump win, to be fair, whomever faces him. Unless the economy tanks. If the latter scenario plays out all bets are off.

paul
paul
Mar 3, 2020 8:25 PM
Reply to  tunde

When the economy tanks, they’ll just blame it on the corona virus.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Mar 3, 2020 11:29 PM
Reply to  paul

Not Boeing.
& what about Whitney Webb’s expose of the pandemic bonds?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 5, 2020 12:11 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

No, no! ‘Pandemic bonds’ is a conspiracy theory, no doubt spread by Putinbots. The loyal Austfailian MSM presstitutes NEVER mention their existence. Instead, as a leading local Sinophobe fanatic revealed on the ABC (Sinophobia Central here)the WHO doesn’t declare a pandemic because the Evil ChiComms tell them not to, and China gives a lot of money to the WHO. Can you imagine the Evil of those Yellow Devils-giving money to the WHO? I suppose they’ve similarly corrupted UNICEF and the Red Cross as well with their filthy lucre.

Dee Cee
Dee Cee
Mar 3, 2020 3:18 PM

I’m sorry but “the tangled electoral college where a simple numerical victory is not enough.” That comment baffles me. You appear to lack an understanding of how the Electoral College works. Are you an American? Because if you are, you need a civics lesson. And if you’re not, then you need to keep your opinion to yourself. It’s clearly not very well informed. As for Bernie’s treatment, I’ll give you that. It’s correct to say he has not been treated fairly by the DNC, but does he work for “common Americans?” Check the tax rates in Vermont. That’ll give you clue as to what Bernie’s politics do for common Americans.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 3, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Dee Cee

The electoral college is just another trick that the ruling oligarchs use to ensure their continued reign. ‘Civics’ shmivics. It’s called brainwashing Cee Dee, and I’m afraid you have been well laundered. PS ‘ Taxes are the price we pay for a civilised society’.

Basher
Basher
Mar 4, 2020 5:28 AM
Reply to  Dee Cee

We’ll ‘stay in our lane’ (keep your opinion to yourself) when you fuckers stay in yours and stop bombing the entire planet.

clickkid
clickkid
Mar 3, 2020 2:29 PM

“The real election for the future of America is on Super Tuesday.”

Sorry Joe, but where have you been for the last 50 years”

Elections are irrelevant. Events change the world – not elections.

The only important aspect of an election is the turnout. If you vote in an election, then at some level you still believe in the system.

Basher
Basher
Mar 4, 2020 5:32 AM
Reply to  clickkid

Agree, but disagree. Getting an outsider on the ballot is hugely important. Corbyn in UK shows what happens & opens the eyes of the thinking masses to the extent of our non democracy. The machine is unleashed to turn a lifelong anti-racist, peace campaigner into a jew hating racist. It is so obvious then, what power is & what power wants

Willem
Willem
Mar 3, 2020 1:25 PM

Sometimes Chomsky can be useful

‘In the democratic system, the necessary illusions cannot be imposed by force. Rather, they must be instilled in the public mind by more subtle means. A totalitarian state can be satisfied with lesser degrees of allegiance to required truths. It is sufficient that people obey; what they think is a secondary concern. But in a democratic political order, there is always the danger that independent thought might be translated into political action, so it is important to eliminate the threat at its root.

Debate cannot be stilled, and indeed, in a properly functioning system of propaganda, it should not be, because it has a system-reinforcing character if constrained within proper bounds. What is essential is to set the bounds firmly. Controversy may rage as long as it adheres to the presuppositions that define the consensus of elites, and it should furthermore be encouraged within these bounds, thus helping to establish these doctrines as the very condition of thinkable thought while reinforcing the belief that freedom reigns.’

If true, the question is, what are we not allowed to say?

Or is Chomsky wrong, and are we allowed to say anything we like since TPTB know that words cannot, ever, change political action as for that you need power and brutal force, which we do not have and which, btw Chomsky advocates to its readers not to try to use against the nation state?

So maybe Chomsky is not so useful after all, or only useful for the status quo.

Chomsky’s latest book, sold in book stores and at airports, where, apparantly, opinions of dissident writers whose opinions go beyond the bounds of the consensus of elites, are sold in large amounts to marginalize those opinions out of society, is called ‘Optimism over despair’, a title stolen from Gramsci who said: ‘pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.’

But every time I follow Chomsky’s reasoning, I end in dead end roads of which it is quite hard to find your way out. So perhaps I should change that title into ‘nihilism over despair’. If you follow Chomsky’s reasoning…

clickkid
clickkid
Mar 3, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Willem

Your Chomsky Quote:

“‘In the democratic system, the necessary illusions cannot be imposed by force. …..

Tell that to the Yellow Vests.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  Willem

Nice overview (yours) of our problem.

Chomsky, the MIT semiotician, digging deep into another deep government project.

Or should we say, “AS” another deep government project.

But not too deep, if we simply allow the Truth (truly “independent thought”, these days) to be our close companion, and guide.

Therein lies the real “#Resistance”.

We all need to get some soon, as they have been furiously patenting “Brain-reading technology” the last few years. Look that up, for a Scream!

“Thought Identification”

Although Wikipedia is about as useful, and coy, as Chomsky, their piece on that is pretty revealing.

*****

“Who do I believe? You, or my eyes?”

(That may be on a fast track to new meaning.)

ajbsm
ajbsm
Mar 3, 2020 9:02 AM

Despite the deep state stranglehold….on the whole world…there seems to be a ‘wind’ blowing (ref Lenin) of more and more people turning backs on the secret service candidates – not just in America. Power, money and bullying will carry on succeeding…eventually the edifice is blown away – this will probably happen, it will be ugly and what emerges might not even be better(!) But the current controllers seem to have a sell by date.

Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn
Mar 3, 2020 1:34 PM
Reply to  ajbsm

I’m not convinced of the theory that the more poor/whipped/ spat upon people become the more likely they are to revolt.

A revolution can only come about when the Bourgoisie can no longer continue to govern in the old way.

In other words it becomes more than a want – more of a necessity of change to the ordinary person.

We have to remember that in general ( it’s a bit of a guess but just to illustrate a point ) that a small majority of people in any western nation are reasonably content – to an extent.

They are not going to rock the boat that Kennedy tried to make the tide rise for or that Thatcher and her mates copied with home owner ship and the right to get into serious debt.

This depends on whether you had/have a boat in the first place.

If not you’ve always been drowning in the slowly rising tide.

Sanders as I’ve said before is not Castro.

He has many faults but in a highly parameterised p Neo liberal economic loving political and media world he is the best hope.

Not great stuff on offer but a significant move away from the 1% and the 3% who work for them ( including Presidents and Prime Misister ) so even that slight shift is plus for the most powerful country on planet earth.

I have in the past worked alongside various religious groups as an atheist as long as they were on the right( or should that be left?) side on an issue.

Now is not the time for the American left to play the Prolier than though card.

Every opportunity to push back Neo liberalism should be taken.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 3, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

I’m not convinced of the theory that the more poor/whipped/ spat upon people become the more likely they are to revolt.
But didn’t the Storming of the Bastille happen for that very reason?
I think people are waiting for just one spark to ignite their simmering fury – just one more straw to break the patient camel’s back. Understandably, the “elite” (which used to mean exalted above the general level) are in some trepidation about this, but, like all bullies their addiction to the rush of power goes all the way to the bitter end – the bitter end being the point at which their target stands up and gives them a black eye. It’s almost comical how the bully then becomes the wailing victim himself, and we have all seen often enough the successfully-resisted dictatorial figure of authority resorting to the claim that he is now being bullied himself. But this is a situation of his own making, and our sympathy for him is limited by our memory of that fact.

Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn
Mar 3, 2020 9:34 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Where’s the simmering fury in the West.

U.S. turnout is pathetically low.

Even in the UK the turnout in the most important election since the First World War was 67%.

I see the result of the ” simmering fury ” giving rise to the right not the left.

Just that one phrase or paragraph of provocative words will spark the revolution?

Iskra.

I’ve heard that so many time it’s tiresome.

The West won’t lead the revolution – it’s finished – it can only follow those who do.

China is leading the world but it is only one form of Communism like there are many forms of capitalism.

The experiment is ongoing.

Simple – back sanders or get Trump.

Back Corbyn or get …………………… you know the result of being a pure lefty.

Johnson.

You want trump? -then carry on.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 4, 2020 12:14 AM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

My point, which I thought I made clearly enough, was that the fury is simmering, and waiting for a catalyst. I also think an important reason for turnout being low is simply that people don’t respond well to being treated like idiots by an utterly corrupt establishment. They just don’t want to participate in the farce.
Once again, Mark Twain sums up my feeling: “If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”
I’m not trying to be argumentative, and, like you, I am quite happy to back Sanders as by far the best of a pretty rotten bunch.
Perhaps China is indeed leading in many respects right now, but becoming Chinese doesn’t seem like a real option for most of us at the moment . . . Incidentally I have been to China and I found the people there as interesting as people anywhere else, although I particularly enjoyed the many things which are completely different from our western cultural roots.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 4, 2020 2:50 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Well of course China is different from ‘western cultural roots’. The absence for thousands of years of civilization of a deranged,genocidal, patriarchal Monster-God is certainly one of many such differences.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 4, 2020 12:16 PM

Politically speaking, they also had their deranged, genocidal, patriarchal monster-gods – just like practically every other civilization – but what I particularly liked was their ancient art, music and dance, not to mention their language. I have a long way to go as regards understanding that language, but the sound and look of it fascinated me.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 5, 2020 12:18 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes, the Chinese do occasionally throw up a patriarchal monster-god, but only in human form, eg Qin Shi Huangdi. The difference in language drives differences in culture and social and individual thought patterns, too. That’s why the compradores who want to be Westerners are such deranged creatures, as we see with the thugs in Hong Kong. The ones infected with American versions of ‘Christianity’ like Pentecostalism are the most demented and dangerous of all.

Brozza
Brozza
Mar 25, 2020 10:20 AM

One sociopathic Aussie example springs immediately to mind.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 3, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Ken Kenn

First of all they are turned on one another. ‘Divideand Rule’ IS ‘liberal democracy’. In the USA the tribes HATE one another, and the Identity Politics imbeciles see toilet facilities for trans-gender women of colour as society’s highest priority. And older blacks troop en masse to vote for Biden, simply because he was Veep to the first black(ish) President, Obama, under who they were right royally screwed as he took very good care of his elite patrons. You can’t beat stupid like that.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 3, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  ajbsm

Hopelessly optimistic, I fear. The rulers have such an arsenal of surveillance and repression now, that NO mass movement can ever succeed. In the end they have the taste or genocide, if required, and the ‘religious’ justification for it, too.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Mar 3, 2020 8:22 AM

Speaking of the Clintons’ death toll, didn’t Sanders too back all USAmerica’s mass-murdering, armed-robbery aggressions against helpless small countries in recent times? And anyway, why are we wasting time discussing the minutiae of the shadow-boxing in this ridiculous circus of a pretend-democratic ‘election’? Watching a coffin warp would be a more useful occupation.

I go with Dmitry Orlov’s reckoning of the matter: It doesn’t matter who becomes president of the US, since the rule of the deep state continues unbroken, enacting its own policies, which ignore the wishes of the common citizens, and only follow the requirements of the mostly hyper-rich gics (gangsters-in-charge) in the controlling positions of this spavined, failing empire. (My paraphrase of Dmitry.)

USPresidents do what their deep-state handlers want; or they get impeached, or assassinated like the Kennedy brothers. And they all know this. Bill Hick’s famous joke about men in a smoke-filled room showing the newly-‘elected’ POTUS that piece of film of Kennedy driving by the grassy knoll in Dealy Plaza, Dallas, is almost literally true. All POTUSes understand that perfectly well before they even take office.

Voting for the policies you prefer, in a genuinely democratic republic, and actually getting them realised, will only happen for USAmericans when they’ve risen up and taken genuine popular control of their state-machine; at last!

Meanwhile, of what interest is this ridiculous charade to us in Britain (on another continent entirely; we never see this degree of attention given to Russian politics, though it has a much greater bearing on our future)? Our business here is to get Britain out of it’s current shameful status, as one of the most grovelling of all the Anglozionist empire’s provinces. We have a traitorous-comprador class of our own to turn out of power. Waste no time on the continuous three-ring distraction-circus in the US – where we in Britain don’t even have a vote.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 3, 2020 3:33 PM

The upvotes here would seem to show what thinking people appreciate most.
Seeing through the advertising bezazz, the cheerleaders and the ownership of the media is obviously a top priority, and I suspect a large percentage of people who don’t even know about the OffG would agree.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 6:54 AM

Where’s yours? That’s impertinent. Our voting process was programmed, close to 100% by two guys, at one point not many years ago, with the same last name, the brothers Urosevich.

The machine owners claim that, as it is their proprietary software, the public is excluded from the vote-counting. And that much still holds true.

Game. Set. Match.

Any questions?

Antonym
Antonym
Mar 3, 2020 6:07 AM

What Bernie Sanders suffered and endured in 2016 was outrageous.

US deep state ate him for breakfast in 2016: they would love him to become string puppet POTUS in 2020.

Trump is more difficult to control so they hate him.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 12:53 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Just one more Conspiracy Realist, eh! When will we ever learn?

“The deep state ate him for breakfast in 2016 ….” That gives some sense of the ease with which they pull strings, nicely put.

One variation on the theme of your metaphor: “They savored him as one might consume a cocktail olive at an exclusive or entitled soirée.”

It is painfully clear by any real connection of dots that he is simply one of their stalking horses for other game.

And that Homeland game (still) doesn’t know whether a horse has four, or six, legs.

*****

“Puppet Masters, or master puppets?”

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Speaking of deep state interference, I re-read my above reply to Antonym a little after I posted it, and it had 6 upvotes.

Now, a couple hours later: ZERO.

At the time he had 8. Now 2. I keep something of a running tab on these things, they are a sort of negative rave, and point the way.

That’s pretty interesting. It’s that kind of thing that keeps me up to date on VHA: “Virtual House Arrest.” That is a phrase I wondered if I’d coined, since I’d never seen it over here, across The Pond, in California.

One day I did a search in England and found it in use for suspects surveilled by British politicos and MI5+ 6.

But this is nothing new. They take me to heart enough to censor me, ban me, all the above. But it’s all another deep state ruse. (Ruse so la Russe.)

What is heartening is that they only choose the deep state comments, so that shows a trend, always one that speaks volumes.

****

Me Hearties:

“…Genius is only the drayhorse
That coaxes the built cart out.
And where we go is reason.”

Kenneth Patchen

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 6:50 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Correction: Antonym went from 8 to 9 in a couple hours. My reply to his went from 6 to zero in the same frame. Just sayin’: Word2Wise.

Antonym
Antonym
Mar 4, 2020 1:24 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

It is painfully clear that US Deep state hates Trump simply by looking at the Russiagate they cooked him up.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 3, 2020 4:15 AM

The US voters have surrounded themselves with a sewer, now they have to swim in it.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Mar 3, 2020 6:27 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

The call to the polls would be rousing in a bygone age (very bygone), but the unbridgeable gulf of trust has no apparent solution: almost 100% of the vote is tabulated by software that were programmed by two kith and kin, the brothers Urosevich (look it up) and since it’s proprietary software, the public is incomprehensibly denied access to seeing the results.

Game, Set, Match.

I still think sometimes the machines get some things right, so I wouldn’t stop voting, but they are more like lotto machines than vote-counting gizmos.

In fact, many of the same companies that manufacture Vegas gambling gadgetry also make voting machines, like Ink-A-Vote, which carries the load, of larceny, for the little inconsequential burg of L.A., last I checked.

You can blame the people, and there’s plenty of blame to go around, but for most of the American “experiment’ (or fiasco) it’s like blaming fish in a barrel for their outcomes.

This system has been rigged forever, and mostly all they do is add redundant and occult tyranny.

Which brings us back to Bernie.
Like Dukakis, or McGovern, he is really just a stalking horse for the powers that be.

A stalking horse. Game doesn’t know if such a horse has 4 legs or six

God pardon me if I’m wrong, but I see all such contests as the one shaping up ~as in 2004 when the two candidates were both concurrent classmates at Yale and members of the tiny fraternity of Skull & Bones (Kerry, class of 1966, W class of 1968)~ as “faits accomplis.”

And our non-Reich choices as patsies much like Oswald or Sirhan, just at a higher level of “the process”.

You will be hard-pressed to prove me wrong

I sure would be glad if you could.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Mar 3, 2020 10:23 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Twitter tells me that the Urosevichs are 2nd generation Ukrainian, ie sons of Ukrainians who left after WW2, therefore probably Banderists. And possibly Dominionists. No, almost certainly Dominionists, or at least financed by loonies like Howard Ahamson Jnr, a devotee of Rushdooney, for Gawd’s sake-but he doesn’t, allegedly support his guru in advocating the death penalty for gays. What a can of worms, and they still complain about ‘Putin’s puppy photos’!!!

clickkid
clickkid
Mar 3, 2020 2:31 PM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

As you look, you think you can see them waving.

Not waving, but drowning.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Mar 4, 2020 6:40 AM
Reply to  clickkid

Sadly, and pathetically, many of them will be waving the Stars and Stripes.