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WATCH: How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health

Who is Bill Gates? A software developer? A businessman? A philanthropist? A global health expert?

This question, once merely academic, is becoming a very real question for those who are beginning to realize that Gates’ unimaginable wealth has been used to gain control over every corner of the fields of public health, medical research and vaccine development.

And now that we are presented with the very problem that Gates has been talking about for years, we will soon find that this software developer with no medical training is going to leverage that wealth into control over the fates of billions of people.

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Lisette
Lisette
May 22, 2020 1:43 PM

As the world turned, America waged war against Europe in the name of freedom and spreading democracy. Because of this abuse of military might America hijacked the world and Bill Gates is the fruit of America’s Bolshevik communist imperialist labor….

David
David
May 4, 2020 7:04 PM

Check out what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says Gates et. al have in store for all of us: Turning humans into GMO’s with an RNA vaccine: https://youtu.be/cV_QPwWxOX8

Thomas
Thomas
May 4, 2020 11:59 AM

The so-called “corona virus” is only the Trojan horse with which the actual bioweapon – i.e. Gates vaccination drug with nanoparticles – is smuggled in.

To do this, a horrendous media effort of panic mongering had to be made, which will continue to echo for a long time to come, even if more and more people are becoming sceptical.

The forced vaccination will come and be waved through all parliaments as a change in the law. Whoever opposes it will lose all civil rights.

Thomas
Thomas
May 4, 2020 12:10 PM
Reply to  Thomas

That is why it always seems a bit ridiculous when animals are humanized and people are animalized. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lancaster
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Thomas
Thomas
May 4, 2020 12:13 PM
Reply to  Thomas

(Last comment belonged in another thread.)

Fromisrael
Fromisrael
May 9, 2020 1:56 PM
Reply to  Thomas

Trauma based mind control.

Alodina gederled
Alodina gederled
May 11, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  Fromisrael

Can you explain?

joe griffin
joe griffin
May 3, 2020 9:36 PM

If NERDS like this GMO are the MEEK that are going to, or do Rule The World we are all in “BIG FKN TROUBLE!” Gates… Bezos… Zukerberg… take a REAL GOOD LOOK at these guys… they are FREAKS!!!… GMOs…. with LOW EMPATHY… HIGH REASONING… NO REAL WISDOM! Not Naturally Alpha At All! God Help Us!!!
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Wereintrouble
Wereintrouble
May 4, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  joe griffin

Revenge of the gammas?

This site says some of these individuals are actual psychopaths, https://pathwhisperer.info/2018/08/16/are-we-living-through-two-unrecognized-black-swan-events/ .

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2020 4:58 AM

The policymakers and their cheerleaders. Look how the Council on Foreign Relations and Vox, supposedly a trendy, hipster news source, come out with the same story at the same time.

Foreign Policy, Sep 20, 2019: The World Knows an Apocalyptic Pandemic Is Coming. But nobody is interested in doing anything about it. By Laurie Garrett.
Vox:, Sep 19, 2019: The next global pandemic could kill millions of people, new …
CNN, Jan 30, 2020: Bill Gates Predicted Coronavirus-Like Outbreak in 2019 Netflix
NYT, Jun 17, 2019: Opinion | We Must Prepare for the Next Pandemic

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2020 11:37 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“On April 27, 2018, the Business Insider published a widely circulated primer to persuade people to expect a mass killing. The article by Kevin Loria was titled “Bill Gates thinks a coming disease could kill 30 million people within 6 months — and says we should prepare for it as we do for war.”

The German dominance of publishing is an important area that needs study: Axel Springer’s Business Insider pops up again and again pushing narratives. Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz and Sherri Kane

Jedd
Jedd
May 3, 2020 3:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Don’t you mean the Talmudist J dominance? We don’t have a news media, we have a organized Talmudist liars media. Six TJ corporations controlling over 2000 media outlets.

Jedd
Jedd
May 3, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

One word explanation: plandemic. All to trauma program the sheeple into putting on shock collars.

Another indicator pointing towards this being a plandemic: the coincidence of Gates’ Oct/19 Event 201, a simulation/wargame of a corona virus pandemic (notice how this positioned BG and Johns Hopkins to be instant experts, taking the lead – standard practice in false flags).

Jedd
Jedd
May 3, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Jedd

Other indicators: the movie, Contagion; the PNAC prediction of Israel’s coming ‘race specific’ biowar capabilities; the grant to Wuhan lab from NIH (Fauci and Collins) (are the Chinese stupid?); the world military athlete games in Wuhan (ditto); etc.

Anon45
Anon45
May 4, 2020 5:59 AM
Reply to  Jedd

More: the lack of N95 masks wasnt accidental (the CDC was susposed to have 37 billion, instead, 12 million). They want/wanted the populace to feel naked before the menace.

The world wide coordinated 7pm thank yous to health providers – the endorphin reward within the trauma mind control programming. Addicting to the fear addled.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 4, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  Jedd

Israel spent a lot of effort researching ‘ethnically specific’ bioweapons with its long lost love and close ally, apartheid South Africa.

Wereintrouble
Wereintrouble
May 4, 2020 4:18 PM

Plus Tela-evil University in Israe-evil offers PhDs in advanced psyop and psychological vulnerability studies. This induced trauma psyop is incredibly sophisticated, must have taken years to develop.

After 9/11 they even created (donated?) the beautiful and soulful reflecting pools for us to mourn (their own attack) at. (When calm google ‘bollyn, israel and 9/11’).

Talmudist supremacists truly believe they are as far above us as we are above bacteria. (Google Lubavitcher Rabbi Schneerson quotes).

KarmaKommando
KarmaKommando
May 3, 2020 1:20 AM

Beware of geeks bearing gifts.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:50 AM
Reply to  KarmaKommando

Such simple short statements can be rewarded with an
“upvote” even by readers at the lowest intellectual level
immediately! (Why do you name yourself in German?)

JohnB
JohnB
May 3, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Magnus

Us human beings call them jokes, Magnus.

Magnus
Magnus
May 2, 2020 11:28 PM

Shortly I read about “The Thing”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
Today’s “thing” is a media-manipulated self-runner who spies on and betrays his own family.

You only have to give them a tiny nudge, and they
run off like windup dolls with a key in their backs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 12:23 AM
Reply to  Magnus

This Gates was a fraud from the start. (I wouldn’t be surprised if even his name is a fake). Watch “The Man Who COULD Have Been Bill Gates [Gary Kildall]” on Youtube. Watch also “Meet Ronald Wayne, The Forgotten Third Co-Founder Of Apple”.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  Magnus

“Donald Trump and Bill Gates do not want 5G radiation”
https://www.klagemauer.tv/index.php?a=showlanguage&lang=en&id=13811&date=2019-02-04

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 12:47 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Dailymail from 31 January 2020: “In a 2019 Netflix documentary, billionaire Bill Gates predicted a killer virus could originate in China’s wet markets to rapidly infect the world

In what now appears to be an eerie premonition of future events, the Microsoft tycoon warned in an episode of the Netflix ‘Explained’ series that the world was ill-prepared to deal with a global pandemic.

In the series aired late last year Mr Gates had warned of the likelihood of a virus breaking out in one of China’s wet markets – exactly like the one in Wuhan where this new outbreak of Coronavirus is believed to have originated. ”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7951293/Bill-Gates-Predicted-Coronavirus-Like-Outbreak-2019-Netflix-Documentary.html

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:01 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Media should critically observe the powerful of the world. But how critical can Der Spiegel be of Bill Gates when it has received 2.3 million euros from him? This is not a conspiracy theory, you can read about it on the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation website https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database#q/k=spiegel.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Major European media such as “The Guardian” and “El País” have created similar sections on their news sites with “Global Development” and “Planeta Futuro” respectively, with the support of the Gates Foundation”.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:09 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Italian ex-secretary of state: It is a “lie” to speak of 25,000 corona deaths. After the Italian National Health Institute (ISS) published a report on Italian deaths due to Covid-19 in early April, the figures have now been updated.

According to the report, the average age of those who died on or with corona is still 81 years. 96.2 percent had one or more previous illnesses, more than 60 percent had three or more. This also applies to the 1.1 percent of the dead who were younger than 50 years of age. 62 percent of the dead are men, whose average life expectancy in Italy is 81 years.

Vittorio Sgarbi, ex-secretary of state and television personality, accused the government in a parliamentary speech of not telling the truth. He said it was a “lie” to speak of 25,000 dead. In fact, 925 people died “of” Covid-19, 24,075 succumbed to other diseases. The number of the 25,000 Corona deaths is only said to “terrorize” people.

Watch “SGARBI SCATENATO ► “STATE MENTENDO SUL NUMERO DEI MORTI PER IMPORRE UNA DITTATURA DEL CONSENSO!” on Youtube.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Magnus

“Johan Giesecke is one of the most renowned Swedish epidemiologists. He advises the Swedish government and the World Health Organization. He considers lockdowns to be pointless, to limit the spread of the corona virus hopeless. According to him, politicians want to use the pandemic to raise their profile and are implementing measures that have hardly been scientifically proven.” https://www.addendum.org/coronavirus/interview-johan-giesecke/

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:36 AM
Reply to  Magnus

“Bill Gates: Global Innovation Is The Key To Achieving A Return To Normal” is babbling about phase one and two.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:26 AM
Reply to  Magnus
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 4, 2020 10:20 AM
Reply to  Magnus

Why in China? Why not in the battery chicken farms, or concentration camps for pigs, or feedlots for cattle, in the USA? Setting up the narrative for war.

Laura R.
Laura R.
May 2, 2020 9:02 PM

More and more, I look at the source before I look at the content they are sharing. See this writeup on “Off-Guardian”: “Overall, we rate OffGuardian a Strong Conspiracy and Moderate Pseudoscience website that also promotes Russian propaganda.” https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/

Reg
Reg
May 3, 2020 12:04 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

Laura, get married to crispy. You want his precious bodily fluids, trust me!

Jeff Johns
Jeff Johns
May 3, 2020 12:06 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

I look at it the opposite way: I couldn’t care less about the source, only whether the content is true. And I would beware of any site that so casually tosses down the phrase “conspiracy theory,” a tired rhetorical tactic used to shut down any questioning of the official narrative.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2020 4:28 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

I follow the money. See posts about Gates Foundation funding the mainstream media newspapers and broadcasters. George Soros does likewise. So does the European Union and they can’t be the only ones.

Then I look at associations between MSM and anyone – corporations, governments, intergovernmental agencies… including disinfo efforts like Integrity Initiative.

Finally I look at the qualifications of the persons – previous research, their sources and the people they quote, the quality of the information, censorship by omission (their political bias doesn’t matter. I can adjust for that).

You can find mediabiasfactcheck here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

KarmaKommando
KarmaKommando
May 3, 2020 5:39 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

Entirely valid reasons for reading it.

Tony
Tony
May 3, 2020 8:52 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

Should’ve done your due diligence before making a fool of yourself here Laura. Here is mediabiasfactcheck owner Dave Van Zandt hoisted by his own petard:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/exposing-9-fakest-fake-news-checkers

breweriana
breweriana
May 3, 2020 10:26 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

Laura R.

So if it’s wearing a dog collar, carrying a book that just MIGHT be a Bible (though you haven’t looked) you will trust them to point you in the direction of truth?

No wonder the world is in such a mess!

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson
May 3, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Laura R.

They have Bellingcat listed as neutral…..

riccotelaly
riccotelaly
May 3, 2020 4:36 PM
Reply to  Laura R.

We consider you either a quisling or moron? which is it? Come clean.

Suzanne
Suzanne
May 2, 2020 8:42 PM

This is mindblowing! I really appreciate this video and the work of Corbett! Bill Gates is truly evil! I remember watching the FOX’s Pirates of Silicon Valley in the early 2000’s and realizing Gates was nothing more than a glorified car salesman!

Laura R
Laura R
May 2, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Suzanne

More and more, I look at the source before I look at the content they are sharing. See this writeup on “Off-Guardian”: “Overall, we rate OffGuardian a Strong Conspiracy and Moderate Pseudoscience website that also promotes Russian propaganda.” https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/

livingsb
livingsb
May 2, 2020 10:53 PM
Reply to  Laura R

Hit the road, troll.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 4, 2020 10:22 AM
Reply to  livingsb

‘…and don’t you come back, no more, no more…’

Reg
Reg
May 3, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Laura R

What happened to Snopes, “Laura”?

Willem
Willem
May 2, 2020 7:24 PM

I need some advice. Someone I know and with who I speak regularly keeps saying in the news that

1. We have a new virus
2. Everyone is going to get infected with this virus
3. For that reason we need to flatten curve (self-isolating for instance)
4. And we need to hope that a vaccine arrives, or if that not happens
5. Introduce apps that will tell us when to self-isolate

How can I debunk this nonsense without getting into an endless argument? – My idea would be to not try to debunk the whole argument (might take a long time), but only one part of the argument that is essential for the whole argument.

I would also not like to talk about things that are probably true, but which could be seen as ‘conspiracy’ (as this would end the discussion). For instance, I would not like to talk about that ad 1 is used to make us scared about something normal (common cold, slightly more severe than usual) that is used as scapegoat for the imploding economy, even though I consider this to be true.

Therefore, my idea would be to
debunk ad 2. Which I think I can do with logical arguments e.g.,

A. Flu is also a new virus every year, yet not everybody gets it. Why would this be different for the ‘new virus’?
B. Viruses mutate constantly into lesser severe viruses, this probably also happened with the new virus. So even if everyone would get infected, it would be for most the less severe new virus that is just common cold
C. …

And then I would like to give this person a mainstream medical paper (preferably a ‘respected paper’ with a high impact factor) that shows that A and B (maybe C, etc) are arguments that are true for common airborne viruses like influenza and coronavirus… But I am not sure which paper I could use there? Can anyone help here?

Such information (from a respected journal) is probably the only thing this person considers to be factual and true. So that I could first tell A, B, (maybe C, etc), and then hand the paper to this person for further reference. I think that is the only possible way that this person can be convinced for knowing that the arguments above are nonsense (and therefore should not be repeated in the meanstream)

Not sure if anyone can help here with ‘finetuning’ the argument, or knows a high ‘respected’ paper that follows my reasoning as provided in A and B, or sees better ways to convince this person, but it would be highly appreciated if one can help!

PS, maybe it would be best to not talk to this person about this at all (as it may only lead to cognitive dissonance/irritation), but in my situation, this is quite difficult from a practical point of view as this person is a direct colleague with whom I have to talk about Covid19 research.

PPS It may be that this person is unable to be convinced no matter what argument you give. Which may also be a reason to not have an argument and that I should try to act dumb. Nevertheless, I think I should try anyway, but think the argument can only be succesful if it is an informative and kind argument from my side.

Laura
Laura
May 2, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  Willem

More and more, I look at the source before I look at the content they are sharing. See this writeup on “Off-Guardian”: “Overall, we rate OffGuardian a Strong Conspiracy and Moderate Pseudoscience website that also promotes Russian propaganda.” https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/

Offlands
Offlands
May 2, 2020 11:43 PM
Reply to  Laura

And your point is?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  Willem

I suggest you send them an e-book of Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal For preventing the Children of Poor People From being a Burthen to Their Parents or Country, and For making them Beneficial to the Publick.
After that, they get onto Netflix and watch Le Carre’s The Constant Gardener.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Willem

How can I debunk this nonsense without getting into an endless argument?

try laughing at the people: seriously 🙂 smiling, naturally, yet staying completely calm,
with a sense & aurora of the A B S U R D I T Y … begging the question

Johnny Mac. style: “You cannot be serious, Nor Umpire any Empire, fool … – – – …”

No G’Tees, but some sense the absurdity of what is going down,
if not, there is little you can do, other than forcefully,
should they provoke & strike first, beyond your joking,

Take the piss and laugh LOUDER ! 😉

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 2, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  Willem

I fluctuate between humour, I ridicule the leaders, constantly remind how untrustworthy they are why would they be any different now. I do remind people of other health negligence cases as the cervical cancer was a big one here in ireland and how they handled that.
Here in the house the msm news is on daily and I just rip apart the speeches
Spotting how insincere they are.
Now they are not putting on the news as much I noticed.
Gone from definitely getting the vaccine
To definitely not getting the vaccine as they don’t see people dropping dead around the place
I was pleasantly surprised.
Fuck them if they’re offended.
Offence is taken not given.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 3, 2020 12:48 AM
Reply to  Willem

One person described their experience trying to share such ideas with their peers:
“I’ve taken to infiltrating relevant social media posts with links to this article and other similar things. It’s been going okay. I try to add comments along with it that get my point across while still sounding as non-controversial as realistically possible.”
They used “this article”: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

(Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/gc6czi/new_data_suggests_the_coronavirus_isnt_as_deadly/fp9v8gk/ )

breweriana
breweriana
May 3, 2020 10:44 AM
Reply to  Willem

Willem

You will scare them off if you approach them with that complex level of argument.

Keep it simple.

Ask them a straightforward question: ‘Did you watch the television last night?’ Naturally, with your target audience, the answer will invariably be ‘Yes.’

Then ask them how it is that, despite ‘social distancing’, weeks of ‘lockdown’ and also that barbers, hairdressers and the like are ‘deemed’ to be non-essential, the ministers, BBC and ITV presenters and all are still perfectly coiffured and manicured?

Get them to try to explain that, and you may be on the road to making them think.

It only takes one inconsistency, to expose a lie.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 4, 2020 11:51 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Hmmmm, i see: your approach is, the thin end of many thick wedges …

Ok, if you say so, lol, hand over 3 pieces of you best ever chocolate cheese cake,

or your life ! 🙂 Xx
Best wishes,
Tim

Gwyn
Gwyn
May 2, 2020 6:03 PM

There it is – the face of the New World Order. A man who apparently cuts his own hair.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2020 1:21 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

prescribed “masked ball” in all shopping malls

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 6:00 PM

To control minds, you must know them, intimately, which demands communications, many of them:-

To communicate, you need to release a whole string formation of 46,000 Sputniks/Satellites: let us say, with 5G Broadbandwidth & Penetration of focussed Micro-Radio-Wave transmissions,
wherever you may be…

Elon Musk & Bill Gates: ” You know when you’ve been Tangoed, Vaccinated… & Elon-Gate’d ” I’ll get my coat, I’m off to study Elon’s new Sputnik, visible before the Stars smother the vault of heaven, situated WestWestNorth @Dusk in the night sky,
between the Polyclinic & my local beer shop, ironically,
called ‘нирвана’ / ‘Nirvana’ !
🙂
Fact beats fiction. 😉

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 7:15 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Elon-Gate’d (;-0 Brilliant.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 7:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Clearly we are on the same wave-length 🙂

Did you see the Peruvian skulls? with drilled holes and gold-plates to reseal the operated zone of the skull, with various dimensions of holes up to 5 cm in diameter, in a mass grave:

Gold being perfect for conducting anything . . . except heaven, because, so I hear, from Steve Jobs, there’s no Bill in Heaven 😉

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 8:35 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

@HoneyMoneycircus & (Slurp 😉 ) JohnB: You obviously know now, & know when you’ve been Tangoed, With a Fanta & some Coke, And then, modern day live, frankly zappa-ed by some Micro_Radio_Wave transmissions, from Elon Musk’s new Sputniks, all 46,000 of them and then Bill offers you the vaccine for a longer life… let me elaborate on when,
you’ve been . . .

ELON-GATE’d … – – – … 🙂

***************

So, I figured, right from the start of Hollywood Psyops & the Coronavirus New Pearl Harbour, next paniiiiiic horror, NPHCoVideo2020 virus of the brain, that,
if Tom Hanks

Survived 4 years castaway on a dessert island,
Then spent a year in an airport, with no permission to leave,
After that, catching Aids, in Philadelphia,
Having rescued Private Ryan in WW2, & then,
After Vietnam, even saving in many ways a legless Lieutenant Dan;
then, being on a boat & kidnapped by Somali Pirates;
having survived Apollo 13, trying to reach the damn moon,
& landed a Boeing on the Hudson River:
I gotta’ tell you (slurp 😉 ) JohnB & Moneycircus,
if that son of a bitch dies from the coronavirus,
we’re all
fucked 🙂

I did construct a longer version of that joke, which included Hanks first ever stage performance of

‘The Taming of the Shrew’, by another Bill, surely … 🙂

Somewhat ironic, oder?…
Odeur, Hors D’Oeuvres,
Orders to be obeyed,
at all times…
Ja ? !

And you want to tell me that the whole world is not staged &
performing on decadent rotten wooden stages …?
See Cracked Actors!

With lead actors morally & financially bankrupted by the inebriate state of their own media’s verbosity & D’Israeli styled guys are not in on the corporate olympic ego-games, i’ll eat my*** ? With sovereign GC-HQ Legal Court Jurisdiction, chains of liability for any computing complaint to Intel Inside Israel, please, today… now … ahem, … Good Morning Vietnam. Don’t you just love the smell of Napalm, NASA & NOAAh’s Ark in the Morning … well, if not, damn well learn to like it,
before the Apocalypse of Scorched Earth.

its’ a sad mad world,
Mc. that needs regulating & the encoding of universal moral values & accountability for harm, first & foremost, being within the Media & Communications of all shared science & wisdom, harmonised with Knowledge: not controlled from the abuse of knowledge by Secret Services, & Fear Porn, with Phoney Terror & Propaganda Wars of utter Brainwash &&
no need to elaborate or elongate, on that score of
my mixed metaphors. Life is so simple, when you understand it fully.

Wishing you well & good humour,
You gotta’ laugh, just like ‘Fluffy’ & “Dave the Bus Driver”.
“You pay me on time & you’ll live . . .”

Jivi Strav,
Tim

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 2, 2020 10:06 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

I’d buy your book.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 11:25 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

That’s a very real compliment,
from Celt2Celt
sincerely heartfelt,
thanks Abs. 😉

HueyL
HueyL
May 2, 2020 5:58 PM

Billionaires should never be allowed to infest society again. After first 100 million, tax rate should be 95 %.

No more Bond level villians no more $500 million private yachts.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 2, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  HueyL

A hundred million! Are you mad? Take **everything** over a million, and put the offenders on public service work gangs for a few years, followed by rest-of-life surveillance, to make sure they never try it again. Excessive wealth for anyone at all should be a serious criminal offence, to be treated with expropriation to the public purse. If I had a hand in writing a republic’s constitution, I’d put that in.

Probably just an impossible dream, though.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2020 4:42 AM

Even some rich people have woken up to the problem: https://patrioticmillionaires.org/about/

xtoxu
xtoxu
May 2, 2020 5:09 PM

This is war. Figure out how you’re willing to fight, and fight. The only other option is submission.

Thom
Thom
May 2, 2020 4:30 PM

Not so fast. Gates may be fabulously personally wealthy but he does not have that much power – and what power that he has derives from others. Gate does not have the power, for example, to overturn goverments (the CIA), crash the financial system (the banks) or bring international trade to a standstill (the Saudis ad OPEC).
So, while Gates may have his own agenda over the coronavirus, the fact he is being allowed to peddle it suggests not that he is himself powerful but the opposite – that more powerful interests are using him as a smokescreen.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Thom

I suspect that money can overturn anything these days. The sort of people who can resist bribery no longer find employment in Washington.

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 4:41 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Whilst power may corrupt, and absolute power may corrupt absolutely, we should not lose sight of the concept that power attracts the corruptible.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 4:37 PM
Reply to  Thom

“more powerful interests are using him”
For sure.
I am guessing they are the same people who could order an international shutdown, at the drop of a hat, of practically everybody.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 2, 2020 5:49 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Yeah but who the gates of hell are they??

Oliver
Oliver
May 3, 2020 2:09 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

My money’s on the Crown. Vast ownership of much of the world, a very powerful financial arm. Ireland not immune to this at all, witness all the dubious rendition flights that have gone through Shannon with the complicity of Irish governments. Irish military intelligence company Omega Air refuels US Navy aircraft and prototype stealth drones for instance. Irish military prominent in U.N. missions and were prostituted as extras in Spielberg’s Saving Private Ryan propaganda drivel. Omega Air ‘bought’ from the Crown the multi-billion pound installation RNAD Trecwn for £329,000 in 1998; a fraud on the UK taxpayer being the very smallest of the crimes that have come out of that place.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 3, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  Oliver

Very intriguing about Omega air. Was not aware. Where’s a reputable source for more information on Omega Air?

Still our government maintains the ‘Neutral’ stance that they continue to reinforce to our nation which I can’t believe people fall for.

Oliver Kingsbury
Oliver Kingsbury
May 6, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Have a dig on Omega Pacific with regard to RNAD Trecwn. McEvaddy brother was in Irish military intelligence. Present owners Manhattan Loft Corporation don’t even mention the place on their website.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 5:38 PM
Reply to  Thom

Undeniably, Gates is neither the root of the problem nor the primary head of the hydra. Credos and organizations (religious, governmental, familial, or otherwise) outlast mortal men and have the longevity necessary to put far-reaching plans in place. People like Gates, however, are always convinced they are the smartest person on the planet and are therefore incapable realizing they’re being used. His goals are Orwellian, his philanthropy a pathetic smoke screen, and his value sincerely overrated. However, there must always be a ‘figurehead’ to put on trial (preferably posthumously) once a ‘war’ is won and the men in the shadows pretend to change uniforms.
He’s like a nuclear weapon– dangerous and potentially world-destroying, but not quite on the scale of those who manufacture the weapons.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 2, 2020 5:40 PM
Reply to  Thom

You don’t get to be fabulously wealthy unless you act in line with hidden financial cartel that controls us. The Men Who Stole The World.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 5:57 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Organizations need a man or woman at the helm. They just need someone.
The populace assumes that individual is some great warrior who slayed dragons to reach the summit. Business school assures us it’s a battle of the strategists with the best laid plans. Hollywood confirms it as fact. Usually that is not the case, however. As in politics, more people DON’T want the top job than want it.
Where someone seizes control usually it’s as part of a gang. These people move between companies as a group, hiring each other. Even they recognize the chances of one person rising to the top on their own, through nothing but talent, is extremely unlikely.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 4:09 PM

The lockdown could go on for months, says John Titus. He reaches his conclusion by watching what the bankers and politicians are doing, not what they are saying. He says it the Clampdown go on as long as it needs for 1) the Federal Reserve to shovel as much money as possible to the wrong people and 2) for main street to collapse so that bankers can pick up companies and real estate for pennies on the dollar.
Titus interprets the words of Neel Kashkari, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. CNBC asks Kashkari a leading question: should the Fed keep throwing money at the economy and not worry about fraud and corruption.
Cash & Carry answers: “One of the mistakes we made in 2008 was we didn’t want to overreact… this time we are erring on the side of doing too much: ‘don’t worry about the wrong people getting it, just do what we can to support the economy’.” https://youtu.be/mD-jBdU2vQA?t=935

HueyL
HueyL
May 2, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Just as in 2008, the Talmudists are shoveling money to other Talmudists. They literally want all the wealth and all the power.

The plandemic was to destroy the world’s middle classes and small businesses in toto. Average Joes/Jills would be tracked/controlled like farm animals – Bill Gates’ vaccine certification/tattoo/chip. ‘You wanna ever work again?’ They call it contact tracing.

Dev
Dev
May 2, 2020 4:03 PM

Why hasn’t the American military recognized Gates as a Bond level enemy of America and the world? This plandemic is an attempt at world domination.

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  Dev

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find out the the US Army is sponsored by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:16 PM
Reply to  Dev

Because he isn’t a foreigner like Dr. No, Goldfinger, Blofeld and Rosa Klebb. It’s hard to admit you’re being betrayed by one of your own.
And that’s quite apart from the fact that the American military actually share Gates’s agenda of world domination, even if most of the common soldiers don’t realize it.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:29 PM
Reply to  wardropper

After all, how can national propaganda work unless you have not only the media, but also the military, on your side?

jay
jay
May 2, 2020 4:54 PM
Reply to  Dev

Because, the government and it’s masters are the villian and Bond works for the government.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 2, 2020 5:03 PM
Reply to  Dev
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 7:25 PM

I have no doubt. Look at Corbett’s new video on Gates: it has some telling clips. Talk about the bolshie, sullen teenager aged 30-something. Turns out, mommy. “Mary Maxwell Gates was the first female president of King County’s United Way, the first woman to chair the national United Way’s executive committee where she served most notably with IBM’s CEO, John Opel.”
Since that’s on WikiPlebia I suspect its the sanitized version. More skullduggery under the carpet. As for the eugenics obsession, he’s taking orders from daddy.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 2, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  Dev

Because the higher echelons are part of the hidden control structure of the financiers. They all end up with highly paid sinecures in defence related industry when they retire, a thank you for a job well done, much like treasury officials who get the same in the banking and finance industry. It’s multiple halls of mirrors linked by revolving doors.

Jedd
Jedd
May 3, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

A colonels coup then? The generals do seem to be sellouts. But aren’t there any colonels who burn for democracy and the constitution?

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 3, 2020 5:05 PM
Reply to  Jedd

In the USA, probably a few, but they keep quiet if they want to keep their job. Her in the UK, it’s unlikely, they swear allegiance to “Her Majesty The Queen”. The job didn’t get finished properly after our Civil War.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 3, 2020 5:07 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Here in the UK …

Ort
Ort
May 2, 2020 7:58 PM
Reply to  Dev

Why hasn’t the American military recognized Gates as a Bond level enemy of America and the world?

Simple– it’s because the Pentagon is still using Windows XP, and it doesn’t support the necessary level of data collection and image resolution.

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 3:19 PM

And back to the Samaritans’ tents in Central Park where the pandemic psyop drill exercise seems to be winding down.

Dev
Dev
May 2, 2020 4:17 PM
Reply to  Reg

The whole ‘OMG! We need more hospital beds, more ventilators’ campaign was part of the trauma mind control program.

Dev
Dev
May 2, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  Dev

Here in NY, carried out by the psychopathic con artist Gov. Cuomo.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 2, 2020 6:24 PM
Reply to  Dev

Just seen an item on the UK’s BBC News (yes, I do watch it to catch up with the latest propaganda!) about a possible treatment for Covid19. It has involved extracting plasma from blood donated by people who’ve purportedly ‘recovered’ from Covid19, with the plan to transfuse it into current seriously ill patients. In an interview with an excited doctor from Guys & St Thomas’s hospital in London he was asked how the trial was going. Rather embarrassingly he had to admit that they hadn’t undertaken a trial yet because they didn’t have any ‘suitably ill’ patients! But as he said, the positive take on this is that there will be plenty of plasma available if there is a second wave.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 3, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  Reg

@16:30 there are four of them sitting round that table, with another person leaning over – and they’re all eating, licking fingers and talking at the same time!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 3, 2020 3:25 AM

OMG, I’ve turned into a curtain twitcher. Should I snitch on them now?

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 3:08 PM

Lincoln does a seven-minute special on people with dog muzzles. Now that they’ve been trained to obey like household pets, the next step is to inject them with vaccines so they can cross borders, just like what you’d need to do if you want to bring your pet cat over from France or somewhere.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 4, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  Reg

Funny how east Asians for decades have worn masks to reduce the spread of respiratory illnesses, but lunatics with NO interest in the welfare of others call them ‘dog muzzles’.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 2:39 PM

Guys this is wild, CNN just had a live segment discussing the studies from Stanford and LA Public Health, and THEN interviewed Dr. Ioannidis and his fellow Stanford faculty Dr. Scott Atlas who literally said the policies were an “economic catastrophe.” Then the CNN anchor concluding the interviews said the WHO figures were ‘wildly inaccurate’. It is amazing this has hit the mainstream and may signal a shift in the narrative as the evidence that the infection rate is much much higher than initially stated becomes undeniable. I wonder if other media will follow suit before they are also exposed as frauds. The segment was conducted by Michael Smerconish if you can find a recording online.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 2:40 PM

This comes after 2 months of Ioannidis and other more sketpical researchers being shunned as terrorists dooming the entire world. So a major damage control move by the corporate media. I just wonder if this will get through the heads of Team Panic.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 2:44 PM

“the policies were an “economic catastrophe.” ”
I can say from personal experience that it is far worse – it is a social catastrophe – economics is just one facet of this evil ‘lockdown.’

crank
crank
May 2, 2020 3:15 PM

Remarkable.
The CDC slashed their numbers of US Covid Dead by half. Quietly, last night. 60,000 to 30,000. No explanation.
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1256423747872944128
We need a new weirdness metric. How wide can the gap between the officially stated and media distortion actually grow ?

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  crank

Just been onto the CDC website and their headline figure is 62,406 C19 deaths (as at 1630 today). Not sure where Alex got that figure.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

SteveB
SteveB
May 2, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  crank

They didn’t change, here’s a snap shot from a few days ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200430055237/https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

crank
crank
May 3, 2020 5:53 PM
Reply to  SteveB

You and phillipe are right. That was a mistake in reading a new chart and Alex has now made that clear.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:30 PM

Is there a link of any sort to this? I missed it.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  wardropper

All I can see at cnn.com is the usual fear-mongering hype.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 2, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  wardropper

wardropper

Neither of these is the actual interview referred to by @Shaking My Head, but they nevertheless show a couple of CNN broadcasts giving a more balanced picture.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1256579248342564865

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1256572702674030592

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 3, 2020 2:13 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks JudyJ, that’s actually the one I saw. It just doesn’t appear to have Dr. Scott Atlas (maybe he was too blunt about how disastrous this lockdown was) but the Ioannidis interview is the same one.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2020 6:36 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Many thanks Judy.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 3, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  wardropper

See JudyJ’s posts for the other parts of the interview and watch this one for Dr. Scott Atlas: https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/doctor-says-coronavirus-is-creating-a-separate-catastrophic-health-care-situatio/1140319949654807/

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 2:35 PM

I write here as a witness to the evil effect this vile ‘lockdown’ is having.

My former neighbour, an elderly, though active, sociable and garrulous old age pensioner, suffered from the ‘normal’ flu a year and a half ago, as did a young corner shop owner. Both had to go to hospital via ambulances. The shopkeepere was sent home in a wheelchair after a day under observation. My elderly neighbour, however, developed breathing difficulties and had to be transferred to an ICU where he was lost three times, but was successfully resuscitated. He was eventually sent home, and after a short convalescence, fully recovered.

Unfortunately, he was one who believed implicitly in media and therefore, at the end of March, entered his ‘self-isolation.’ After some days of not seeing my friend, I became concerned although since he had family living with him, I thought it best not to interfere, for fear of being perceived as a busybody or worse.

Today I saw flowers being delivered, and asked the family how my friend was, to be told he had passed away and hadn’t been seen by anyone because he was in ‘self-isolation.’

A normal, gregarious and talkative person was transformed into a recluse. I personally believe he died of a broken heart.

God knows what it must be like for the poor buggers in ‘care’ (sic) homes – no family visiting, and minimal attention from frightened staff, many who are absent from work.

This is systematic wickedness on an unprecedented scale.

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Absolutely shocking. The covid maniacs are responsible for this evil. End of.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 5:42 PM
Reply to  breweriana

I am truly sorry to hear that. To die as a consequence of this hype is terrible, but it is more heartbreaking still to think he died alone and afraid when none of that suffering was necessary.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 2, 2020 6:26 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

A very sad story. It is systematic wickedness, the people responsible are psychopaths and they don’t care, in fact they will probably be happy that the world has less “useless eaters” because of their plan. Unfortunately, many ordinary people in the western world will just shrug their shoulders because they have been conditioned to accept Social Darwinism.

When battling to get the correct treatment for my late mother, many of the people I came in contact with, including health and care workers, some friends and several members of my own family said ” Well she’s old and going to die soon anyway.”

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 2, 2020 6:29 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Oops, sorry. This was written as a reply to breweriana.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 7:31 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

I am sorry you had to hear words like that spoken about your Mother.

We all grow old (hopefully) and die. What has happened to empathy and compassion in our ‘modern’ television-led world?

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
May 2, 2020 11:20 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Thank you B. I can’t be angry with them, it’s not really their fault.

I’m afraid empathy has been deliberately targeted by sophisticated behavioural psychology techniques for decades. Empathy breeds solidarity between people, this is an obstacle to the atomisation of society, the goal of the divide and rule tactics employed by our tormentors.

Fortunately, a large minority of us are impervious to these techniques. Apart from the socio/psychopaths, the rest can return to natural compassion if they understand how they are being manipulated. It’s up to those of us who care to show them how.

The majority of us will soon be in the same situation materially. Common experience will breed it’s own solidarity, I believe empathy will then follow, especially as the false dreams peddled by the behavioural scientists will be exposed and can then be explained.

Hope springs eternal …

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 2, 2020 2:05 PM

Cartoon
This is all part of a larger agenda …
https://imgflip.com/i/3w9znp

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2020 1:45 PM

This’ll be pissing Bill Gates off:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scientists-conclude-people-cannot-be-infected-twice-11981721

We don’t want too many people catching covid19 and gaining immunity, do we? What about our vaccine? Keep the lockdown going.

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Tony

Intriguing how the usually fanatical MSM are throwing out little bits of heresy. Shaking My Head a few rungs up this board mentions CNN talking to Ioannidis, a man who has been all but vapourised by the propaganda managers. Something’s up.

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  Reg

There are a number of options, but I suspect it will be one of two.

Either, they are waking up to the fact that they cannot continue to fool everybody all of the time and are back-peddling to try and regain some credibility; or

‘They’ have achieved what they wanted to this time around and are loosening the leash via their MSM mouthpieces.

The second option is more worrisome. What do they have in store for us next time around, I wonder?

Reg
Reg
May 3, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  Philippe

Yeah, they’ve primed the sheep with talk of a “second wave”

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:52 PM
Reply to  Reg

If anybody has a link to that CNN talk, I’d be very grateful. I can’t see anything but the usual hype on cnn.com

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 1:43 PM

John Titus with a new video on the Fed Reserve’s jiggery-pokery and how long this imprisonment might last. Contains a clip of vaccine whore Deborah Birx not answering a question put to her.

clickkid
clickkid
May 2, 2020 1:03 PM

In Germany a new political party was formed on 21st April – Widerstand2020 (Resistance2020) , focused on the restoration of constitutional rights.

It already has 80000 members (4000 since yesterday evening) and has overtaken in membership numbers a couple of the parties represented in parliament.

Joerg
Joerg
May 2, 2020 5:51 PM
Reply to  clickkid

@clickkid, hallo
Please, don’t miss (German language) “451 Grad” : “Seuchendoktor Drosten weiß alles-Pharma-Lobbyist Spahn?” (*https://youtu.be/czEzwEQOJAQ). Their main site *https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeVwmPZVO6OsB_omHP2t8pQ .

Thanks for mentioning “Widerstand2020” – never heard of them before. But just now I listened to an interview (German) with Dr. Bodo Schiffmann, one of the founder of “Widerstand2020”: *https://kenfm.de/dr-bodo-schiffmann/

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
May 2, 2020 12:01 PM

A FOLLOW-UP

OVER SOMEONE ELSE’S DEAD BODY

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 3:23 PM

Good documentary but like many it skips over WHY Gates was chosen. Yes, Gate’s mommy knew IBM’s CEO but IBM could have found Gary Kildall itself. As the doco says, he was already working with chip-maker Intel. Kildall’s CP/M was already the industry standard. So do we believe that IBM only heard about Kildall from Bill Gates?
The only reason to use Gates to approach Kildall would be that IBM wanted to deceive Kildall and needed to use someone outside the company, preferably a fellow enthusiast from the coder community, to approach the target.
Then there’s the contract with IBM. “Microsoft never mentioned to IBM that their deal was non exclusive.” I’m no lawyer but can you license your O/S to one of the bigger companies in the world without their lawyers going over the contract the proverbial comb? And then re-sell it to everyone and his dog? I don’t believe that either.
Gary’s death. In a bar brawl in 1994. Except that is only one version of the story. It may simply have been a brain hemorrhage. Some still think he was done in.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
May 2, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yes, I thought it was a bit odd that IBM didn’t have exclusive rights to the operating system and that schmucky Gates was able to roll over Kildall, IBM, and all his other competitors. It was also strange that Kidall sold his system for $240.00 while Gates sold his for $40.00…..

Gwyn
Gwyn
May 2, 2020 5:48 PM

Gates was just annoyed because he was so envious of the other guy’s surname. I mean, Kildall

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
May 2, 2020 9:40 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Maybe, Gates thinks it’s one of Gary’s software commands.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 10:56 AM

Blessed relief. The Babylon Bee is so much better than The Onion: Newly Mustachioed Bill De Blasio Unveils Special Red Armbands For Police Enforcing Lockdown — ‘Workers Of The World, Unite!’ Says Man Who Has Never Worked A Day In His Life — ‘I Have Never Treated A Woman Inappropriately,’ Joe Biden Whispers Into Journalist’s Ear

Where d’you go to get a dose of real deep stupid – the Covid Believers? I know I shouldn’t but I need a laugh. The Guard is so virtuous that laughing there is like cracking jokes in church.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

A dose of the clap, I meant to say.

kevin morris
kevin morris
May 2, 2020 10:40 AM

Conventional medicine cannot cure anything and the answers proposed by the likes of Bill Gates lead nowhere. When I became terminally ill early in 1999 I used homoeopathy, Tibetan medicine and was taught Guo Lin Cancer Control Qigong by a former Red Guard. If you break your leg the NHS might well be able to help but no chronic disease can be cured by so called ‘conventional’ medicine. If people knew just how poor our system of medicine is there would be riots, not 8pm Thursday applause.

Gates’ proposals will help nobody because they are based upon nineteenth century understandings of how human beings tick. There are alternatives. Seek them out- you won’t regret it.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

The most obvious things to prevent disease are all but ignored by these ‘philanthropists.’
Things like decent sewage treatment systems, hygiene, clean running water, pollution controls, healthy diet, etc.

But it is always: “no, don’t look there -see here, my magic vaccine will cure you all, without those things.”

They are always making ‘cures’ for the symptoms, but never a cure for the causes. It’s a good business model, but it is definitely not ‘humanitarian.’

David A
David A
May 2, 2020 3:41 PM
Reply to  breweriana

There are 5 million children under 5 dying in Africa every year, but we don’t care because the solution is clean water and there’s no money in that.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  David A

There soon will be…

Cassandra2
Cassandra2
May 2, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Rockafeller’s philanthropic trusts infiltrated Medical Institute Boards in the early 1900’s, with $100’s millions of donations, and subverted doctoring from a cure to a treatment orientated profession, having secured a monopolistic grip of the pharmaceutical industry.

Can you imagine anything more appalling, or depraved, than doctors maintaining their patients in a ‘sickness’ mode to ensure repeat prescriptions?

Gates is simply repeating the Rockafeller strategy.

The question is, particularly applied to the present COVID scam, will the people shake off
their conditioned paralysis to reject AUTHORATIVE misguidance, or keep taking the ‘sick’ inducing medicine?

Vaccination is simply a prelude to their ultimate eugenic ambitions.

kevin morris
kevin morris
May 2, 2020 8:19 PM
Reply to  Cassandra2

You’re right about Rockafeller but what is not as widely known is that whilst homoeopathy was the mainstream in the States up until the formation of the AMA and moves to prevent homoeopathic doctors from becoming members, Rockafeller remained a supporter of homoeopathy.

In effect, although his policies made him even richer they prevented mass access to homoeopathy. Nevertheless, he continued to be treated homoeopathically because he knew that it was far more effective than pharmaceutical medicine.

Cassandra2
Cassandra2
May 2, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

I was aware that homoeopathy formed a central role in preventative cures, I didn’t know the bastard retained it for his personal benefit – thank you.

kevin morris
kevin morris
May 3, 2020 12:41 AM
Reply to  Cassandra2

The best account of this period of medical history is the late Harris Coulter’s Divided Legacy- volume 4 I think.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 5, 2020 1:11 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

And yet them there Rocker-fellers, support monarchies & empires everywhere…

all over the globe,

& in Tibet 🙂 Wanna’ bet, Kevin ?
Standard Oily practice, S.O. ESSO EXXon Standard Oil Practice, with HAARP onside,
S.O.S. Standard Oil Submissions in their media, inebriated by their own verbosity,
and you fell for that Rockerfeller fella’, the misogynist Dalai Lama & “Free Tibet”
BS Mr. Han Man ! When will you accept that visiting China and the Himalayas, is very different from living there in China & understanding the needs of the ‘Iron Rice Bowl’, which was wholly dependent on clean water from the Himalayas ? !
Feeding all China … a stunning responsibility.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 5, 2020 12:48 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

I recall another impression from the red guard, you have referred to, in the past, in another wholly other light & life, I must presume … and I must presume that neither your brother nor sister was in Beijing on the day of Tiananmen Square.

Watching you, watching me, watching you …

Just a reminder. Never a threat !
Steady on Tibet ! & The CIA & Lockheed Martin engineering the Weather & Water for the …
Beijing Olympics 2008, on the Northern Himalayas, with 500 Installations (Five Hundred, Kevin) >>> after engineering your dalai spitting lama twat’s wages of $180,000 bucks per annum from 1945 – 1974, then assuring his transition in the media, from Monarch Terrorist to Peace prize winner, in less than 15 years … until 1989 and then for him to admit in 1999, that his greatest ever regret in life, was trusting & working with the CIA… I seem to recall you failing to acknowledge your Dalai Lama’s extremely tainted
history, morally spea-King.

Edwige
Edwige
May 2, 2020 10:23 AM

Gates feels almost too obvious a villain, like he needs just a cat and an island to be Blofeld.

Are we being mis-directed, watching the right-hand while the left-hand is up to something else?

gordon
gordon
May 2, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  Edwige

yes sir
a little 2 obvious
is he working in a vacuum?

what does evelyn rothschild think of him what about jacon what about nat rothschild
boris’s bullingdon boy chum think

what about the folks in the empire of the city of london.

where is soros

the facts are iran and russia are in lockstep
this is a zio satanick gang heist and all these scum are in.

gates is a front man a post windows 10 goldstein for your hate and fear
top dog the man stroking his pussy like in bond baddie?
balls

talking of cock and balls
melinda

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 2, 2020 3:35 PM
Reply to  Edwige

worse?!

George Mc
George Mc
May 2, 2020 10:13 AM

https://www.facebook.com/cory.morningstar.5/posts/10163832786135554

While hospitals sit empty, as healthcare workers/nurses are furloughed across whole countries – all in the midst of a declared health pandemic (from a virus that the vast majority of population will never know they had) – 1.6 billion workers in the informal economy – that is nearly half of the global workforce – stand in immediate danger of having their livelihoods destroyed.

Workers, peasants, farmers, artisans. Those that comprise the informal economy are the most vulnerable. They face starvation.

This virus may have the (intended?) effect of transforming the developed countries into a new third world sector i.e. of transforming the entire planet into the third world. Thus the effect would be the opposite of the one so blandly assumed over the decades i.e. instead of those poverty infested regions eventually rising to share our affluence, we will sink to their level. While, of course, the rich get richer and live behind impregnable gated communities.

elsewhere
elsewhere
May 2, 2020 11:48 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Sounds right to me: “instead of those poverty infested regions eventually rising to share our affluence, we will sink to their level.”
Reminds me of Quentin Crisp’s quip: “Don’t try to keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level!!”

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 9:37 AM

I appreciate this is preaching to the converted but I’ve looked for simple and clear sources that may penetrate the fog of war, the frenzied strumming through the mists of the orchestra of disinformation.
Why are the other business leaders letting Gates cost them billions? Bill Gates has led efforts to shut down the global economy, furloughing their workers. The oligarchs should be seeking to hang Bill Gates from the rafters of his $140 million Seattle mansion. Would they let the Gates’ forge ahead like this if they were not in agreement? Clearly they are in agreement. We know they have been bailed out. The oligarchs like Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen Bezos are profiting mighty. Is Bill Gates compensating the other billionaires from his own pockets? No. The Fed is doing it at our expense.
What is the Gates family doing if not vying for dominance? What are the possible outcomes if not control? If it is just a question of public health, why Bill Gates? He is not a doctor. If he were you or me, he would be called a quack. Do those who rally behind politicians ask themselves why a private billionaire is running health policy?
Now a real expert: In the most low-key, considered way Charlotte Iserbyt lays open the way familial and business networks control America. “Interlocking power centers and foreign policy initiatives of controlled conflicts, always funding both sides, leading always in the direction of total control… Evidently they believe that the elite will survive and live very, very well.”
Continued here: https://moneycircus.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-arent-other-billionaires-angry-with.html

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 2, 2020 10:04 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I only thought this theory to my partner the other day.

Bill gates isn’t the only billionaire on the planet and why are more ruthless people standing back and letting this destroy their empires?

I know I wouldn’t.

Steamin, psycho
Steamin, psycho
May 2, 2020 10:43 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Maybe it,s because money is so yesterday why worry with such trivial matters when real power is within your grasp

visitor
visitor
May 2, 2020 5:47 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

He is a ‘paper’ billionaire. Actual wealth is ownership of resources such as forests, mines, water resources, and the magical money printing machine.

Those above him own the financial ‘plantation’ that these ‘farmers’ cultivate.

Gates, and the rest of the farmers on Forbes List of 500 Richest Farmers are servants.

Interesting to look into Bezos’ recent setbacks via DoD contract to Azure instead of AWS, and this recent legal issue.

Interesting to look into Epstein and Gates connection more. Was this guy off’d so as to not spoil Bill’s star turn as “I wanna be even more famous than Steve Jobs” new savior from SV.

Interesting to look again at the imo fake whistle blower in China who then died. That was propaganda to scare both non-member Chinese (which is basically most of them) and set the stage for the show on our end.

Interesting to look again into where those first social media posts with clips of Chinese dying in streets were posted. Did they first surface in China? If yes, big huge red flag pointing to a unified agenda behind the official global story.

https://steveblank.com/secret-history/

I think there was a final showdown in Pantheon.

(Yes, Iran and Russia lockstep with WHO? China first of course, and whoever in Pantheon is pushing the “new world” in the West.)

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 5:00 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Probably the most intelligent person I have ever seen on video. Talks fluently, from memory, and uses English which anybody can understand, however complicated the matter she is discussing. I love people like that. No-nonsense, extremely well-informed and unafraid into the bargain.

crank
crank
May 2, 2020 9:18 AM

The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and prevention) posted on Facebook last night:

‘..The hospitalization rate is highest among adults aged 65 years and older and similar to what has been seen during a comparable time period during a recent high severity flu season

The arguments about the virus have all been won by the sceptics. Where do we go from here?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  crank

Follow the money. Besides, the economic fallout is still unfolding. Back in 2008 I was, probably unfairly, skeptical of the Occupy Wall Street movement. To me it seemed too happy-clappy, not in a religious way but in an Extinction Rebellion kind of way.
In hindsight the bankers and the police took it very seriously and the coordinated raid in the U.S., first on the regular supporters and only then on the leaders, served to show that the security state will be turned on the most gentle of protestors. Except for Extinction Rebellion who are total frauds and there’s your proof.
Occupy provided lessons. Now is the time to take those lessons seriously.

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 2, 2020 7:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yip Controlled opposition is alive and well extinction rebellion are are good example , cells of environmental terrorists. Well funded and Radicalized .

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 10:21 AM
Reply to  crank

Where do we go from here?

Having just watched the above video, I would have to say: As things stand, wherever Bill Gates wants to take us, regardless of whether the sceptics won all the arguments. We are clearly not in the majority. Or are we? We just don’t know.

Part of the problem is that ‘they’ have been allowed to frame the situation, so a lot of the discussions around overcoming said situation take place within that frame. That frame was anchored in the initial ‘estimates’ provided by Imperial College, just to make sure everybody would stay within the frame provided.

It’s entry-level psychology which, whilst not particularly sophisticated, in nonetheless incredibly effective – just witness the number of people more or less demanding to remain under house arrest.

What is required is, quite literally, thinking outside the box (aka the frame). Within the sphere of influence of the all-pervasive official narrative (ie wherever you look within the mainstream), such thinking is difficult.

Off_G and a few (too few) other sources are doing their best to provide opposing voices. However, most of the people who come to sites like this do so because they are already suspicious of the narrative. We are, in a very real sense, self-selecting. Part of the danger of this is such sites can become echo chambers wherein we all congratulate ourselves on how clever we’ve been in spotting the con, but cannot export that view to the frightened majority. They simply don’t want to listen.

For the record, I don’t believe we are in an echo chamber here – there are many different opposing views on any given day. Also, different aspects of this situation are being introduced constantly – the financial crash aspects, for example. Which is a good thing.

However, what is frustrating me is my personal struggle to ‘think outside the box’, alongside wondering if such a place even exists anymore. That is the insidious thing about frames on this scale – they can be overwhelming.

There appear to be a lot of clever people posting on this site. Hopefully, one or more of you will possess the vision and intellect to navigate a way out of the frame in which we find ourselves, in order to start thinking in a different way about potential solutions (albeit not final ones!). If you don’t do it, who will?

If you could have something viable outlined by, say, next Wednesday, that would be great.

No pressure.

Willem
Willem
May 2, 2020 10:40 AM
Reply to  Philippe

One solution would be to start thinking for yourself instead of letting other people do the thinking for you. As one thing has become crystal clear of this CV19 thing, it is that you cannot trust the experts as they are either foolish, stupid, or find it difficult to understand things when their salary depends on not understanding it,

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Willem

Absolutely agree.

I am trying to think for myself. My problem is not the analysis; it’s the inception. I suspect I’m not alone.

For clarity, I’m not asking for a ready-packaged solution to anything (despite my final sentence :-)) from some expert or other. Nor am I advocating blindly following anybody who pops up with ‘the answer’. I’m simply saying that perhaps we need a new way of thinking about how this problem is overcome, or at least mitigated.

Having read further down the comments than I had when I posted, I see that there are a number of people already doing that. And before next Wednesday!

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.” Albert Einstein.

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 10:58 AM
Reply to  Philippe

The way it started with me was with a question, “So why are some people so emotionally against XX ?” The question then led me to research both sides of the argument presented by various commentators. Once I started to make connections with government-big money-the same persons (Cheney, Rumsfeld…) then I began to see the way out of the “box”.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  Tom_012

“So why are some people so emotionally against XX ?”

Exactly. In order to think critically, you need to set emotion aside for a moment. Granted, we live in a ‘post-truth’ era where false facts breed in abundance, but even the most spuriously presented ‘fact’ must be looked at critically. No one has an emotional, knee-jerk reaction to a factual statement like ‘the sky is blue’ or ‘water is wet’. So why do we have emotional reactions to “initial Covid projections were wrong” (ample links above) or “30 million people have filed for unemployment? (The two extremes being, of course: “But people are dying! Do you want Grandma to die?” and “We’ve been fucking duped.) Have whatever reaction you like (I tend to come down on the latter), but have it after you’ve thought it through. Once you’ve analyzed it, you can feel however you want: sad because human beings don’t have empathy, mad because we’ve so easily been herded down this path, scared because no matter which side you’re on the world is a g-ddamn frighting place just as present.
Every time I see another saccharine commercial about whatever cut-throat business being “with us in this uncertain time”, schmaltzy new puff piece about how this or that charity is donating masked teddy bears or what-the-eff-ever, or email from my HR department about the company “family” (just furloughed over 25 workers and fired more than fifteen, and we’re on the smaller end of mid-sized), I know I am being asked to react with my emotions first. Luckily, there’s not much capacity in this stringy, desiccated excuse for a heart. But I really, really wish people who have actual functioning human empathy would react with their minds first, even if only for a few seconds.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 6:20 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

ETA: The figures from my little digression into anecdata are extremely rough and all from the most recent wave of cuts. That was May 1st, which led to a fun day of a lot of people calling/texting one another asking ‘are you still employed?’. Kudos to the sales guy whose boss called to fire him during a web conference– he put the conference on mute, accepted the termination, then got back on the the customer and said, ‘I guess I no longer work here, so I’m out.’

Ort
Ort
May 2, 2020 7:53 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

I agree with everything you’ve written here, but your second paragraph resonates with my own contrarian, critical view of the Official Megadeath Narrative of Doom. FYI, I live in a relatively pleasant suburb just outside Philadelphia, PA, USA.

As one given to “anecdotal” comments, I unapologetically begin by saying that my intermittent visits to the supermarket and other merchants in the nearby shopping center have become a real drag. This is because of the deleterious social effects of the allegedly utterly necessary, indefinite (“for the foreseeable future”) prophylactic requirements of mandatory mask-wearing and social distancing.

Presumably some of my fellow shoppers wholly buy into the official narrative and proscriptions, and are “happy” to dutifully comply. Others, like myself, comply reluctantly and resentfully. But nobody, even the dutiful submissive, cooperating types, looks happy at all. On the contrary, generally the shoppers and the store employees alike look increasingly grim, stressed, and harassed– to the extent that this can be discerned in a masked population.

The ostensible “life-saving” measures have killed conviviality, or at least put it in a deep coma. Shoppers coming the “wrong way” down aisles that have been absurdly converted to one-way streets nervously scurry past each other. Sometimes they say “excuse me” in muffled undertones, but sometimes they say nothing– perhaps they’re genuinely convinced that even brief polite utterances may be “risky”, or be perceived as such.

In general, people are subdued, stricken, and apprehensive. This psychological miasma, or funk, is obviously due as much to the awkward, unnatural, dehumanizing “public health measures” as it is to direct fear of the Megadeath Virus of Doom.

The overclass staging and managing this plandemic– more precisely, their controller-class minions– complements the embitterment of society by injecting copious amounts of would-be “positive” mass-media consent-manufacturing; I call it “infoganda glurge”. Perhaps I need to point out that none of what I’m describing is new; the ratcheting-up of plandemic-related propaganda reflects an increase in degree, not of kind– in short, the government/mass-media juggernaut is doing what it always does, just doing it faster, bigger, and harder during this crisis.

One early mass-media trend was the proliferation of “heartrending” stories. The journalistic maxim “if it bleeds, it leads” acquired a corollary of “if it weeps, it follows”. So on Internet “news” sites, e.g. the aptly-named Yahoo site, one suddenly saw daily headlines and blurbs about some doctor, nurse, or first responder bursting into tears of woe and despair over the magnitude of the megadeath. That is the point or focus of the story: strong men and women weep.

Along with this came mawkish “heartwarming” stories: a selfless teenager cutting up her prom dress to make masks for the local hospital, or some altruistic donor paying for “service animals” to visit a terminally-ill child who was supposed to visit the zoo on their birthday, etc.

After that, I noticed that the cheesy ads on over-the-air “free” TV were all updated to reflect the lockdown status quo. For instance, Nutri-System ads cheerily offering their “healthy” fare to bored, restless men stuck at home. Even local contractors and tradesmen pointedly assure prospective customers that their work crews and technicians scrupulously practice PPE-wearing and social distancing while performing home repairs.

And this trend was augmented by smarmy, maudlin tributes and thank-yous to health care workers (and police, and the military) who are Risking Their Lives to Keep Us Safe and Healthy– a well-worn jingoistic trope adapted to promote the pandemic.

I once had the misfortune of working with a clerk-typist who was notorious for persistently neglecting her microwave popcorn until billowing clouds of acrid smoke poured out of the break room. She would invariably rush in belatedly to remove the charred remains and apologize– and add insult to injury by spraying copious amounts of cheap floral-scented aerosol “air freshener” around Ground Zero.

The mix of scorched popcorn kernels and cheap air freshener compounded the felony; it was intolerable. The mix of conviviality-choking draconian “health measures” and artificially-sweet infoganda glurge has the same effect– and, of course, the masks just make the cloying atmosphere more toxic.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 9:55 PM
Reply to  Ort

No apology expected for the anecdotes– that would 70% of primary source material, after all, and boots-on-the-ground experience is a vital part of history.
I absolutely agree on the deleterious social effects we are presently seeing. Public behavior and expectations are an important part of the civil contract, and they weren’t exactly in great condition before this (generational divides, the impulse towards litigation over the slightest thing, the devolution of political discourse, lack of basic manners, etc.). Remember people who, once upon a time, had not even the slightest notion of pre-Covid ‘personal space’? Those who let their children loose in stores as thought they were playgrounds? What kills me is that many of these people are now the same ones who glare at you as though you are some sort of violent maniac if you get within twenty feet of them, the ones who act as though you’re a bio-hazard if you even gesture to keep their child from running out into the parking lot. If you want your six feet on the path in the park, you’re welcome to it– I was always one to step aside anyway, since I am a slow walker. But do not get off the path and walk through the mud because I prevent such a danger you need fifteen feet. It’s an insult to yourself and to me.
Beneath the thought-terminating cliches of “stay home”, “flatten the curve”, “alone together”, “social distancing”, and “in this together” is another, far more insidious message: “Only isolation provides safety. You are all atomized and, if you do not find these ‘new methods of connecting’ satisfying, there is something wrong with you. Do not love they neighbor– avoid him. You have no fellow man, you are surrounded only by potential carriers of disease. Anyone not taking exaggerated precautions is an amoral Agent of the Virus bent on harming your family.”

[…]complements the embitterment of society by injecting copious amounts of would-be “positive” mass-media consent-manufacturing; I call it “infoganda glurge”.

Ha! I may have to borrow that! You brilliantly outlined the rapid spiral of devolution in both reporting and advertising. It happened so fast… I think I remarked on the fact I saw an updated ad two days before the election was canceled in Ohio (3/17) and one day after the schools were closed (3/13). That’s one damn quick rush to production!
All the “piney fresh ocean zen uplifting apple pie moonlight breeze” air freshener in the world can’t cover up this stink, though it can make it infinitely more nauseating.
(There’s a good question! Hey, jack-booted officer of the “law”, can I take my mask off to puke in the gutter? ;-))

theguvnor
theguvnor
May 2, 2020 6:30 PM
Reply to  Philippe

I tried to comment recently but was rejected. The stay at home order would in fact be a method to withdraw labour if extended which would hurt the echelons above. We would have of course to support ourselves with the likes of exchange of services/ goods etc; Withdrawal of labour would of course could aid with AI but without consumers who would AI serve?

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 2, 2020 7:51 PM
Reply to  crank

What virus?
The influenza virus in winter with everyone’s immune system lowered by the stress of the media fearmongering ” COVID19″ psyop .
Same symptoms hmmm why were people not tested for influenza ?
Was it because the WHO already staged a fake pandemic with the “manbearpig flu” in 2009.
The UN’s WHO learnt from the pandemic simulation , trial and errors there to instruct Drs to mark all deaths of elderly, sick, dying , aggresive treatment experimental drugs ,VAP and drug overdoses as being from “manbearpig virus” .Start with a falsified data( computer programmed) lock them up to make it a reality, terrify the people out of their minds and keep bombarding them with lies daily.

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2020 8:56 AM

And here we go…..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52511270

Remdesivir is almost completely unproven to actually work. But it’s manufacturers, Gilead, have close ties to Fauci and Gates. You just couldn’t make this shit up.

Serenity
Serenity
May 2, 2020 10:21 AM
Reply to  Tony

Remdesivir… chlorovodka… or whatever mumbo-jumbo western medicine churns out, I do not give a DAMN. For the past few years, I completely sever my ties with big pharma, together with their greed and corruption. I keep healthy by eating raw garlic, drinking ginger-turmeric blends, taking virgin coconut oil, etc. I have felt more well, healthier, happier. It’s extremely funny that there are myriads of fools who still worships big pharma.

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 1:46 PM
Reply to  Serenity

There are a frightening number of unthinking morons who say things will go back to how they were after a new vaccine comes in. I know some of them unfortunately.

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  Tony

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/01/government-researchers-changed-metric-measure-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir-during-clinical-trial/

“Death and other negative outcomes were moved to secondary measure status: They would still be tracked, but they would no longer be the key measure of remdesivir’s performance. The switch — which specialists said is unusual in major clinical trials but not unheard of — was publicly disclosed on the government’s clinicaltrials.gov website on April 16 but did not receive much attention at the time.”

Anyone who has researched Gilead will know that they have a long history of manipulating drug trials. In the case of Sovaldi, they even used a different version of the drug to the one that was marketed!

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 1:05 PM
Reply to  Tony

Death and other negative outcomes

It’s encouraging to note that they view death as a negative outcome.

I feel safer already.

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 8:13 AM

I have a sincere questions about covid19 death.

Q; Has the covid19 virus actually killed anyone:

Context I am not asking does the disease exist, nor am i asking how the respiratory disease infects/effects people. I am asking what biological process is causing death. e.g. do people die indirectly from complications of covid19 infection i.e. pneumonia. Or As a direct result of covid19 symptoms caused by the disease, eg. Organ dysfunction.

Philippe
Philippe
May 2, 2020 11:34 AM
Reply to  Objective

I think that’s a good question.

In principle it is the same as: Is it influenza that kills people?

I saw a video of a doctor discussing C19 (quite possibly on this site) who made a similar point in relation to influenza and co-morbidities.

JudyJ
JudyJ
May 2, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  Objective

Objective
You have raised an all-important question.

I tried to discuss this simply and sensibly with my elderly (91 and 88) and fearful ex-parents in law this morning to try to reassure them. As I suspected it all fell on deaf ears, and all they could say was “Yes, but so many people are dying from it“. The irony was that they had just been saying to me that their mobility has really deteriorated because they are too afraid to go out for their albeit brief normal daily walk round the block to keep active. But they remain convinced the lock-down is saving their lives.

Only one comment (intended to be helpful) I have on your clarification of the context of your question:

Context ….Or as a direct result of covid19 symptoms caused by the disease e.g. organ dysfunction?

This assumes that there is a disease based on symptoms told to us by the MSM, which are then broadly assumed to be facts. There still remains unanswered the question of how many patients are actually dying as a direct result of mechanical ventilation: possibly unnecessary ventilation, and possibly ill-supervised or ill-managed ventilation. It is well-known that, even when utilised responsibly, the process of mechanical ventilation can cause many side-effects leading directly to permanent disability or even death and should be used only as an extreme measure of last resort. Can we be confident that patients are not being placed on ventilators out of convenience or because medical staff (yes, including doctors) have simply been told that is what they have to do…or else… and no questions asked?

Common (and I don’t use that term lightly) direct side effects associated with mechanical ventilation include collapsed lungs, irreversible damage to lung tissue, pneumonia, blood clots in main arteries or veins in the lungs, heart failure, compromised kidney function, compromised liver function, intra-cranial pressure. I do not think it can just be coincidence that these are commonly cited as possible effects of Covid19.

On the matter of symptoms it was interesting to read about the supposed latest connection with Kawasaki Disease in children and the claim that this may be triggered by Covid19 infection in children. Matt Hancock and Chris Whitty appear to be high profile voices pushing the narrative that there may be a link between the two conditions. Experts in Kawasaki Disease, however, have stressed that there are no indications of any connection at all and that trying to produce a connection could well risk the lives of children who do have the condition. Apparently the numbers being diagnosed this year are down on previous years and there is a fear that such children are mistakenly being diagnosed as Covid19 patients. As such, the treatment given would be likely to be detrimental to children suffering from Kawasaki Disease.

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/kawsaki-disease-heart-damage-illness-coronavirus-diagnosis-uk-2560975

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
May 2, 2020 3:31 PM
Reply to  Objective

It is pneumonia that actually kills people. The usual explanation is that the SARS-Cov-2 virus has weakened their immune system, allowing other pathogens, either viral or bacterial to take a hold and cause pneumonia.

They give antibiotics for the presumed bacterial infection, and if that doesn’t do the trick then they give “antivirals”, like Remdesvir and the rest. And cortico-steroids as “anti-inflammatories” in the belief that the immune system is being too active and has to be dampened down. All very contradictory, since it was a weakened immune system that led to the pneumonia in the first place.

Andrew W Saul:

David Crowe:

https://medium.com/@quantazelle/david-crowe-coronavirus-covid-19-the-risks-the-testing-the-treatments-part-2-165fd22a0d7e

In the Italian report, considering deaths of coronavirus-positive people, 52% had been put on antiviral drugs — quite likely the Remdesivir, which is this ebola drug that people are all excited about — 27% were put on high dose corticosteroids. Now both of these things — antiviral drugs and corticosteroids — after SARS (and I have a book chapter online which details what happened during SARS) both of these were criticized for being ineffective and toxic. For example, the antiviral drug used in SARS — which is not being used this time around — caused hemolitic anemia, which is like the breakdown of your blood cells. It caused liver problems in like 75% of people. Corticosteroids caused ongoing neurological deficit in a large number of people. It caused osteonecrosis — which is basically a rotting of your bones — which caused a need for joint replacements in many people who were treated during SARS.

So these drugs they’re giving are not friendly drugs, and they’re being given to people the average age of 80, who have pre-existing health conditions. I mean, I’m repeating myself but I define this to be absolutely insane.

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 2, 2020 8:00 PM
Reply to  Objective

I am asking if the disease exists as it has not been proved to exist.
It must be proved that the alleged virus( SARS Corona 2) is separate from SARS-Corona 1 ( 2002) and it alone causes the said (influenza and common cold ) symptoms.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
May 2, 2020 5:23 AM

I do not approve of current ongoing depopulation measures, and I kind of have a love hate relationship with Michael Moore. Yes I did buy his DVD, a few years after 9/11 from a Chinese Girl at a Punk Rock Gig in South London. His photography is great, and he says what he thinks which resulted in Donald Trump getting elected. I still haven’t worked out if he did it on purpose, but his new film is something else.

I never expected him to do this. This is based on physics and reality. It is a completely Brilliant Film, and I am an eco-warrior too..I see the solar power, and I walk round the back of the stage, whilst saying hi mate – great to see you whilst noticing the diesel generators. In case the sunlight cuts out, and cuts the sound and the lighting. The entire performance cut dead in front of 22,000 people in our local park??

ecolocal mate – do you think we are stupid in England?

Brilliant Film Thank You – and its Free to Watch – I did last night – nearly 2 hours of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

Tony

jay
jay
May 2, 2020 8:01 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

The diesel generator, if only they had that earlier then they wouldn’t have needed to dispense with the ecological but unreliable windmills at the onset of the industrial revolution…

Willem
Willem
May 2, 2020 8:02 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

I watched it too and didn’t like it. My review can be found here: https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/30/an-open-letter-from-philip-roddis-to-offg/#comment-162359

In brief: he is good in exposing the green energy scam, but replaces that lie with the urgency of a depopulation scam (as if we need to continue in the decadence of bullshit jobs, 3 cars, 2 houses, and eating vegetables that grew in Ecuador as it is cheaper to grow them their, then in your own back garden, etc)

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 2, 2020 9:30 AM
Reply to  Willem

So Willem: do you say that Earth is not currently in a human population-overshoot episode? If it is, do you prefer to do something about it, or simply to leave events to take their course, and for the overshoot to be corrected in the usual, highly efficient but emotionally horrendous Gaian way?

I should say that I expect that – whilst the first approach of a humane, controlled population re-shrinkage using human agency is possible – I wouldn’t give you any odds worth having that humankind are actually going to get their shit together to do it. In that respect, we’re no cleverer than yeast. Less, really: we have the intellectual means to understand what’s happening, and the technical means to head it off from the Gaian Solution. But, psychologically, we can’t be arsed. You have to suspect that even yeast would have more gumption than that, if they understood the situation as we do.

So, since our refusal to look soberly at this looming crisis won’t in any way stop it, or even slow it down, it’s long, slow denoument is coming. The ‘Limits To Growth’ publications, which have been so accurately predictive in the event, suggest that the time when human population will begin to turn down again, **willy nilly**, is only a decade or so ahead. The best that individuals can do is to recognise that it’s here, and also that we’re not going to do anything collectively-adult about it, so small-scale family and community apocalypse-proofing – as far as that’s doable – is our only option; our only really practical option. Or, as a yeastily impractical option, we can pretend that there’s nothing to see here, and thus drift mindlessly into the Solution with eyes wide shut, lambs to the slaughter.

The overshoot reality has become unpopular enough recently, as an object to face up to squarely, for even some of the most clear-seeing commentators to chop-logic their way into denying it. I won’t name names, but even some of my most respected go-to commentators have surprised me on this issue. At least Moore and crew aren’t taking that duck-out option.

But universal unwillingness to face the overshoot reality won’t wish it away in the slightest. It just means that we run full-tilt into it without any mitigating preparation at all. A bit like the way the West has dealt with the covid event – whatever that really is… Cheers bro! 🙂

Willem
Willem
May 2, 2020 10:24 AM

‘So Willem: do you say that Earth is not currently in a human population-overshoot episode?’

I am saying,
1. Show me the evidence first. Moore doesn’t do this in his documentary
2. If there is evidence (as there likely is), show me the causes (like global economy such as growing corn in Brazil instead of your home country as it is cheaper to grow corn there, even though you need to deforest Brazil for it and ship it to Europe)
3. If you know the causes, do something about the causes

If you watch the documentary you will see that Moore only says: ‘we live with too many people on this planet, and that will not end well’. Which is implicitly saying that we should get rid of people as if too many people is the root cause of collapsing ecosystems.

So what I take issue with is that the documentary proposes genocide as a solution to our collapsing ecosystem. Which is even a bigger lie than the green energy scam.

I am surprised that I have to spell this out, because the documentary is pretty obvious in to what the real motives are for airing it. As RobG and TonyO showed here, there is going to be massive starvation in 3 world countries such as India due to the lockdown. After seeing this documentary of Michael Moore, you are allowed to think: ‘how sad, but it is just Mother Earth taking care of overpopulation’. That will be the propaganda line and that is the propaganda line that is employed in this documentary. And that is why I don’t like the documentary at all. Because I don’t like lies or talking points that justify genocide.

But Michael Moore has no problem with genocide, as do many others, as long as it saves ‘the ecosystem’. How ‘humanistic’

Reg
Reg
May 2, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  Willem

Wow! I haven’t seen the doc. Does he say that? Always comes down to a mass cull with these overprivileged fuckers. Every. fucking. time.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 2, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  Willem

Of course we could organise our societies to take proper care of all of us, Will; even more of us than there are already; it’s doable, technically. And at the same time we could be scrupulously careful with protecting the wilderness and not letting its genetic fecundity get destroyed. But what I’m saying is that we won’t do that, because we’re too feckless as a species. So, the current – already manifesting – overshoot is going to cure itself in the usual way. I don’t celebrate this, it’s dreadful. I certainly don’t advocate it. I’d prefer the us to be more responsible. The destruction of the global ecosystem, with the loss of so many marvellous life-forms has always been a tragedy to me.

But there’s no point in dreaming about what humans could do if only we were psychologically different. We are what we are, so those wise-Vulcan societies don’t seem very likely any time soon. It’s a bastard, but there it is. Mam G will not let us balloon on much further before she starts the mass killings; or – what I think to be much more likely – the inversion of the current slightly-higher-than-death-rate birth-rate, so that we start shrinking away mainly in a slow ebb, only punctuated with local famines and epidemics. Dismal prospect. But clearly humans are not planning to turn into Vulcans any time soon.

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2020 11:39 AM

The world is not overpopulated. We could quadruple the current population and it still wouldn’t be overpopulated. The problem is the distribution of resources controlled by the big money. Sort that problem out, and size of population is a non issue. Unfortunately for us, big money sees getting rid of large numbers of us as a much more agreeable solution (to them). It’s not as though the world is running out of land to fit everybody on, far, far from it.

Geoff
Geoff
May 2, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Tony

We’re not the only ones on the planet though are we, the suffering and horrendous conditions animals are forced to live under is an absolute disgrace, what would happen to them if we quadrupled the population I ‘d hate to guess, they are here with us, not for us.

Tony
Tony
May 3, 2020 9:05 AM
Reply to  Geoff

Your argument is against procedure, not against the problem.

Geoff
Geoff
May 3, 2020 9:33 AM
Reply to  Tony

No it’s against cruelty and nothing less, I’m not a vegetarian I eat very little meat, but surely animals are entitled to some sort of life aren’t they , taking a screaming six week old lamb from it’s mother so some hungry bastard likes the taste of sweet meat ? despicable , as are the people who eat it.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 2, 2020 5:33 PM
Reply to  Tony

Dream on Tony. Clearly you’ve a bit of self-educational catching up to do: on basic global ecology, and on the mathematics of the exponential function. Both of those contradict your cloud-cuckoo statement the the Earth is not over-populated. To which I can only respond: which Earth were you speaking of, Tony? A facsimile of this one, orbiting Alpha Centauri, perhaps…? 🙂

Oh, and whilst considering further self-education, look into the stark gulf between what humans could do, if we had the psychology of Vulcans, say, and what we will actually do, being the feckless slobs that we really are.

I don’t doubt that it’s **possible** to pack even more humans onto the Earth, and keep us provided with the basics of life, without tearing the whole planet to pieces. With comprehensive self-control, such a prospect is technically possible. But we’re not going to do any of those dreams because we’re not up to it.

Die-back is the only option that we have in our future, because of this incorrigible fecklessness. There is literally zero **realistic** prospect of us ditching that baleful characteristic any time soon. The long term hope is that we evolve away from it. And the upcoming population die-off bottlenecks that are likely to develop over the next century or so may well provide some fast-tracking in that direction – for the survivors – if we’re lucky.

My guess is that, after the Single Giant Pulse Event (qv) of hitech industrial civilisation has peaked and ebbed finally, we shall be muddling along into the next few dozen millennia, with drastically reduced numbers, and with somewhat simpler technologies that can actually be sustained without disastrous drawn-downs of essential feedstocks. Living prudently on natural, worked-for income rather than on once-only stored capital, in other words. Quite probably, we shall be collectively happier than we are now, too. That wouldn’t be difficult.

Tony
Tony
May 3, 2020 9:07 AM

I can’t even be bothered wasting my time giving a considered reply to the above, it’s such aery faery nonsense. All underpinned by eugenics, of course.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 3, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  Tony

“Aaaaaaargh! Eeeeee-yew-genicist! Aaaaaargh!” LOL! Always the empty ad-hom shriek of the overshoot-denialist when s/he’s as bereft of rational argument as a flat-earther confronted by an astronaut. Ha! Gimme more laffs, Tony, go on! 🙂

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 8:56 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

“Climate change” is an obtuse term, it is a neo-liberal construct. Climate is/has/will never be in stasis, climate is dynamic constantly moving process. The planet has been in a cycle of warming for more than 12,000 years. The sun warms the planet. The importance of climate isn’t temperature & weather, its how those effect the environment & living organisms, life on earth is adaptable or dies. Those are the irrefutable facts.

AGW. is an obvious scam built on scientific fact (a warming climate) & political obfuscation. It is impossible to prove a future event by definition if it hasn’t happened yet you have no evidence! You would need two earths to compare to construct an accurate model which would take many life times to even begin to understand. Modeling is a perversion of science, simple speculation. Any scientist who claims to know everything is not a scientist. If you don’t know all the natural variables you can not create an even remotely accurate model of planet earth.

If you want to learn the truth look to who funds the research, like everyone else scientists don’t work for free & those that fund research always have an agenda either purely political or economic or both. Who knows what their real agenda is if they don’t tell us or their employees.

There is likely a correlation between increased atmospheric co2 levels & human activity its likely insignificantly small, it may have a relatively tiny effect on the increase in warming but its not going to be causing an apocalyptic death of all life on the planet. Global warming may cause a mass extinction event in the future but it wont be because of anthropocentric activity it will be because of natural processes.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t incredibly serious environmental issues we must address. Habitat destruction & diminishing bio-diversity are a severe threat to our species. What causes habitat destruction? Anthropocentric activity, the larger the population the greater the consumption of natural resources, the more natural habitat is destroyed. The quicker populations grow the more we consume the faster the destruction, preventing natural processes replenishing natural resources. It is outrageous arrogance to believe humans can manage or control nature to mitigate this process. No amount of technology can or will mitigate against natural processes i.e. ecological overshoot!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 10:05 AM
Reply to  Objective

“Modeling is a perversion of science, simple speculation.” With due respect to mathematicians and their noble art, there was much talk after 2008 that the capture of economics by mathematics lies is the cause of much woe. I’ve seen similar laments recently about the capture of science by mathematics.

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 1:15 PM
Reply to  Objective

That doesn’t mean there aren’t incredibly serious environmental issues we must address. Habitat destruction & diminishing bio-diversity are a severe threat to our species.

One that is very clear to see if you ever travel to beaches in the Far East, plastic. This is plastic of discarded water/soda bottles. Who forced plastic to be used ? Well most certainly not the consumer but corporations such as Coca-Cola or SHELL with their oil containers. So who is responsible to plastic polluting the World over ? I vote Corporations.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 4:07 PM
Reply to  Tom_012

Plastics. A by-product of oil refining. They had to dispose of it somehow.

I remember when we could earn a bob or two, going round the neighbours asking for their empty glass beer, pop and cider bottles and getting the deposit back as cash from the ‘offy.’ All milk bottles were glass and recycled too.

A simple system, and it worked. No problem with plastics pollution then.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:35 AM

Another community for lockdown skepticism: https://old.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/ (Surprised to see it given how Team Panic much of reddit was before).

Another study from Japan: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.20079822v1.full.pdf
” Seroprevalence of novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Kobe, Japan ”
“In conclusion, our cross-sectional serological study suggests that the actual number of people with SARS-CoV-2 infection in Kobe, Japan is far more than the confirmed cases by PCR testing.”

Kalen
Kalen
May 2, 2020 4:32 AM

For all you young who do not remember Gates as one of those first in line abhorrent, retarded MIT dropouts, stooges of the oligarchy who became famous for stealing other people’s software codes and based on his stealing crime wrote “his” buggy “Basic” so his mother corporate lawyer could for the first time in history, patent it, copyright it, and claim IP rights on any old and new software that was never patented or copyrighted before as ineligible.

Gates mother help changed the IP law and it later expanded to patenting genetically engineered biological life organisms.

Gates’s predecessor to “windows” was paid in blood of a true digital age hero who wrote operating system in Z80/Z80A Assembly language and who suddenly died after refusing to sell it to IBM on which board of directors Gates’s mother was sitting. Until that time computer operating systems were largely classified as corporate secrets, proprietary “Know How” protected like any commodity.

So Gates stole it, as his mother put it “reverse engineered it by a third party” and bought it for a pittance and then renamed it “DOS” precursor of windows. Gates more or less killed free and shared commons of digital age i.e. communal widely shared software development much less restrictive than open source that was prevalent back then. Gates infamously was the first to threaten and sue fellow coders for money.

Gates was early champion of cronyism and exploitation of phony and stolen IP, massive destruction of innovations and new IT businesses in his quest of world domination and technology destroying monopoly what Microsoft aspired from the beginning and ultimately became. As Goggle and FB took over IT space Gates turned his destruction toward microbiology, big Pharma vaccines and biotech where he did the same.

After that he was involved in insidious charities shams like among many in Darfour, Sudan giving 3 millions to victims of the killer Sudanese regime he previously invested 300 millions. The story ran in LA times only, with no national syndications suppressed by Gates about two decades ago

After experience of just last 40- years of emerging hi tech oligarchic rule, sole rational conclusion possible is that the oligarchic class to which Gates belongs, has to be eradicated without prejudice since it is a scorch of the earth and parasite to humanity exactly like industrial moguls of XIX century . This is irrefutable fact that billionaires contribute nothing to society, it is millions of their enslaved workers who make any progress possible often by sacrificing their lives.

The people must democratically self govern within their communities under social principles of equality ,equity and egalitarianism making sure the every person lives healthy life in dignity and is liberated from political and socioeconomic fear and extortion under threat of homelessness and starvation.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 2, 2020 7:55 AM
Reply to  Kalen

There is nothing wrong with patenting certain genetically modified life organisms.

Examples are:

1. A bacteria engineered to produce therapeutic compounds and proteins in an economically cost-effective way.

What you have effectively patented is a manufacturing process, which happened to involve one of the inputs being a genetically modified bacterium/fungus/other organism.

2. Cell cultures producing therapeutic antibodies or attenuated viruses for vaccines.

These are also ‘genetically modified’ but once again, they are manufacturing methods for human health purposes.

What is more worrying is patenting of GMOs that are being released into nature, not knowing the long-term effects of doing so.

GMOs kept strictly within confined areas with clear lifespans in bulked up form are certainly worthy of being patented, as inventive steps were proven effective in solving particular industrial problems.

jay
jay
May 2, 2020 8:04 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Aspartamine…excreta from GMO’d salmonela…

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 1:45 PM
Reply to  jay

Aspartamine is solidly a Rumsfeld affair. He was also involved in the Tamiflu Affair in 2009.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
May 2, 2020 9:04 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

We learned very quickly that you cannot genetically contain GMO crops with the corn. The science does not support them being an improvement broadly.

Angry Slave
Angry Slave
May 2, 2020 9:10 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Patents are always wrong. Patents are the worst form of IP by far. Patents create an artificial scarcity and hold back progress. They are one of the centre pins of rentier capitalism. None of us should be forced to pay rent to use knowledge. None of us should be prevented from using the proceeds of our own labour to earn a living because some organisation has been busy patenting everything they can imagine in the broadest of terms while most of us could not afford a single patent on our own work.

There are billions people on earth – they should all be able to pursue science and engineering without having to do battle with parasitical patent lawyers. Its like having a billion processor computer but only permitting one processor to execute code.

beer
beer
May 2, 2020 2:42 PM
Reply to  Angry Slave

…and the software industry doesn’t really need patents. Software is complex and if you are serious about using it you will want support and updates. Red Hat (now part of IBM) is a large and profitable company that makes its money by supporting essentially free software.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 2, 2020 9:54 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yes there is something wrong with it, Rhys! Whatever happened to the idea of the global commons, and the idea of pursuing pure science research as a free gift to humanity and the world, in return for the free education and the public funding which the scientists receive from an enlightened society? Decently-socialistic societal organisation, in few words

Commercial monopolising sucks; like commercialism generally. I wouldn’t even use such spiritual dross – being constantly on the parasitical-rentier make as a way of life FFS! – to compost in a humanure bin. Strictly for obliterative, unmaking incineration by shooting it into the Sun.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
May 2, 2020 10:33 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Patent capture is how the biggest corporations exist.

They pay off inventors and either shelve it (to protect their profits from an old and decrepit item that would have been replaced); or they use it to stop other in in entions independently arriving at the same idea; or they exploit it beyond its remit.

Anywhich way the original individuals don’t own most of their inventions. The only individuals who do are songsters and authors but most of these are captured by the music producers.
The 70 year limit id a licence to print money.

Think of a artist painter creating a great master piece, which they have sold for some pittance but within their lifetime ir. eyond a uires great value and reprint money – the artist or their decendent don’t benefit anything! Actors in TV and Film too get repeat fees if they had a reasonable contract but that to comes to an end for many whilst their performance carries on making money for whoever owns it at the time.

It’s a mess. It’s a system designed by the ancient bankers for the bankers to capture the benefit of human ingenuity.

It therefore needs tearing down to a size and term that still rewards such invention but doesn’t turn into a virtual slave golden goose for the banker classes.

The simplest solution is to limit the term of copyright for everything and everyone to a simple medium term.

10 years.

It’s long enough to profit wildly from the popularity and exclusiveness. Than it becomes the commons and other manufacturers can use it to make their own and tbe cheaper the better for more humans to be able to benefit from it.

Don’t cry about the poor authors and popsters they have their repeat fees and greater appreciation of their newer works and performances by more people and almost all of such works are owned by conglomerates – they can fuck off !

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Many vaccines contain MRC-5:
Organism: Homo sapiens, human
Tissue: lung
Cell Type: fibroblast
References: Jacobs JP, et al. Characteristics of a human diploid cell designated MRC-5. Nature 227: 168-170, 1970. PubMed: 4316953.
http://www.lgcstandards-atcc.org/products/all/CCL-171.aspx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients

Where they got it from originally, back in 1966, is another story.

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Gates father was solidly linked to the Rockefellers. Little Billy was no geek but instead a puppet to play the geek. The brains was Paul Allen to whom the know-nothing Billy was joined at the hip playing the role “Working in the Garage” genius.

link

livingsb
livingsb
May 2, 2020 6:15 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Great information. Thank you!

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:19 AM

Another study proving this whole thing was a farce

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1256313795007430657

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:41 AM

Oops this is the right link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.20079244v1
“Seroprevalence of COVID-19 virus infection in Guilan province, Iran”

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 9:04 AM

Yes & likely the early reports of a high death rate in Iran caused by US sanctions not corona.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:02 AM

Look how Reuters is in the business of doing PR for Bill Gates (and the broader pharma or other forces at work). One commenter below posted a link discussing how Bill Gates refused to vaccinate his own children. I just read this “fact check” from Reuters addressing this: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-bill-gates-vaccinate-childr/false-claim-bill-gates-refused-to-vaccinate-his-children-idUSKBN22B26Z It’s interesting the source that it is a “false” claim is literally a sentence in a social media post that could have been written by a social media intern. Maybe it’s true but I don’t particularly care about the Gates’s children. But what is more interesting is that Reuters is going out of their way to essentially advertise and defend Bill Gates. Where did this directive come from? Who gave the order to “fact check” this out of all things in the world? I wonder how the network of influence looks. In 2003 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation trust owned 369,200 shares of Reuters. In 2012 that number of shares was 723,300 (search 2012 BMGFT 990PF PUBLIC DISCLOSURE FINAL.pdf then “Reuters”). I wonder if the Reuters “Fact checkers” mention this conflict of interest anywhere.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:10 AM

It’s just so funny that this is “fact checked” as “false” based on a single social media sentence post. Even the most trivial of claims to truth sometimes have to go to the supreme court to be determined. But now 10 words in a social media post is sufficient for so called journalists and so called fact checkers. Reuters in 2003 I bet: Did Saddam have WMDs? We fact checked this. Colin Powell wrote “they have WMDs” in his blog at bagofshit.ovalspot.gov.com Claim? True! Fact checked!

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 4:13 AM

OJ Simpson tweeted that “he didn’t do it.” Reuters: “We checked Twitter. He didn’t do it. Fact checked!”

BDBinc
BDBinc
May 2, 2020 3:16 AM

Ha health? Don’t you mean some unsavory depopulation fascist thinks hes the oligarchy spokesman for modern medicine ( $ Big pharma$). And the media has convinced the believers it is so, that this little man is a trained medical specialist and knows whats best.
The so called health system has very little to do with health.
Its all for profit.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 2:57 AM

None of this is hidden. It is the UN agenda. The media doesn’t report it, thus people are surprised. Going back to Julian Huxley, the first head of UNESCO, (yes, the British and their class system) he said they wanted to use the education system to change the values, attitudes, beliefs and behavior of all humanity using the education system. The UN is openly pushing a world culture, a new order, based on a humanist philosophy led by utopians, technocrats and totalitarians.
Edward Bellamy’s utopian novel Looking Backwards was much admired by Rockefeller and John Dewey, yet it openly disdained literacy which they blamed for individualism. Dewey went on to attack primary education in the ‘The Primary-Education Fetich” (sic). Dewey was as good as his word: he went on to destroy literacy through his quackery of Look, Say, turning generations of children into dyslexics, including all of J.D. Rockefeller’s.
This is a cult.
https://youtu.be/CWoAZ6S0BHA?list=PL7lYeAfdwVKZ9Xz9h1dn9bN_7RB5wpSGD

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 2, 2020 4:47 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

None of this is hidden. It is the UN agenda.

Exactly! Controlled opposition is so very good at telling you what you can find elsewhere anyway.

Imperative to understand about propaganda:

1. The term “mass propaganda” is a propaganda term in itself. They never push out propaganda as a single stream aimed bluntly at “the masses”. To maintain power you have to cater for all people in society, including most importantly your critics and boy do they cater to us so extraordinarily well. As allegedly said by Lenin (as if it was his idea – there’s propaganda right there!), the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves so James does a wonderful job of “exposing” what is not hidden anyway but James would never, ever say that death and injury were staged on 9/11 nor that this alleged pandemic is a complete and utter hoax, a very obvious Trauma-based Mind Control Psychological Operation and a Problem > Reaction > Solution situation (just like 9/11). No way would James in a million years say that.

Thus, there are always two main streams (sometimes with tons and tons of substreams as in the case of 9/11) in their propaganda:
— One stream directed to the unquestioners (real pandemic)
— One stream directed to the questioners (virus illness blown out of proportion where they get the questioners to focus on anomaly after anomaly after anomaly in the media stories).

People, there is no such phenomenon as an “official story containing lots of anomalies”. That is not a thing, it is meaningless. When we are told an “official story” containing lots of anomalies, rather than waste loads of time listening to controlled opposition doctors discussing the anomalies but never going further than that (exactly what the power elite want us to do) we need to work out what this “official story with lots of anomalies” is and we have very well-known phenomena to match it against. The one that fits perfectly is psyop of the trauma-based mind control kind. It fits like a glove and absolutely nothing else does. It is a perfectly round object perfectly fitting a perfectly round hole. Nothing else will fit. There is no doubt, it cannot be anything else, it can only be psyop. That is all it can be.

2. Propaganda can contain lots of truth. It is a myth to think that the power elite want to suppress the truth at all costs. No, no, no, no, no! That is so not their MO. Of course, they censor and control the media, it’s not as if they don’t suppress the truth at all but that doesn’t mean they always do. Telling the truth judiciously is a very powerful weapon they make great use of.

— To start with, we are told that they believe that by delivering the truth in a coded way underneath all their lies they push the onus onto us to call them out and if we don’t they are spared karmic repercussions.

— To control the opposition they are obliged to speak some truth, it’s a necessity but they know that speaking limited truth while always avoiding the crucial truth will mislead the genuine opposition’s thinking and render them toothless. It is no sacrifice at all for them to expose so many things about themselves because they know their critics know or suspect anyway.

— They can achieve so much by delivering some truth. For example, mix it with lies to mislead and also to distract from more important truths, eg, they have all the 9/11 truthers focused on controlled demolition to distract them from the pivotal truth of staged death and injury.

The irony is that I’ve learnt so very much from controlled opposition. For the first four or so years of my study after my initial awakening I’d say most stuff I learnt – if not all – was from controlled opposition. They are really quite generous with the truth in some ways I have to say – they seem to deliver more than they really need to although it’s hard to say … but then my second awakening began.

ame
ame
May 2, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

you do the exact same with your blog you only now added a little bit of numerology / Gematria etc. after how long!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 2, 2020 11:42 AM
Reply to  ame

What do you mean “you do the exact same with your blog”? Everyone has their special interests. I recognise Masonic coding but I’m not really up on it and cannot speak authoritatively about it – that’s for others to do. Also, that’s more for people who are already well into psyops, I’m trying to appeal to people who are new to the subject.

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 9:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

This is a cult

It is, it is. The correlation between the rise of deviant, degenerate conduct of individualism opposed to individual liberty & the rise of mandatory “education” is evident.

Obviously knowledge & learning are good things but state sponsored indoctrination isn’t for every child, mandatory formal education is a crime against humanity, forced indoctrination for the first quarter of your life is an abhorrent human rights abuse.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
May 2, 2020 2:17 AM

Gates to Hell?
He can’t do it all by himself. He has sycophantic underlings who bend over backwards to appease his every whim. Ambitious and hungry for anything that falls from his table of BLOOD.
Bill has a ‘team’ (don’t you hate that word?) of clones who carry out his perverse agenda.
It’s time to name and shame all of those pricks.

Angry Slave
Angry Slave
May 2, 2020 9:17 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Its his handlers above that we really need to identify. Unless we do that there will always be a Bill.

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 9:44 AM
Reply to  Fair dinkum

Money provides wealth, wealth buys power, power corrupts, whats the solution?

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
May 2, 2020 11:11 AM
Reply to  Objective

Mother Earth is in the throes of a Final Solution.

BigB
BigB
May 2, 2020 2:17 AM

Anyone remember ‘EEE’? ”Embrace, Extend, Exterminate”: Microsoft’s core policy to take over the Internet – from the antitrust trial. The world could have saved itself this current problem by embracing and extending the open-source GNU/Linux kernel for interoperability …for free – exterminating much of Microsoft’s stolen and privatised profitability.

Or so my brother tells me: I’m not a techie …But anyway: there are other ways of organising other than around commodification, privatisation, monopoly branding, anti-innovation and ruthless trade practices. And there are definitely better ways of organising than around monopoly incorporations that run over 90% of the ”PCs in every home”. Windows is and always was shit. After all: OS software, knowledge and information are infinitely reproducible for virtually free. Which should be freely available, open-source, public goods and common cultural interdependent property.

Ubuntu works just as well: and its not going to cost me an ID2020!

The point is the capitalist patented, privatised, limited and privileged access OS is a lot more defectively totalitarian than its current salient exemplar: Bill Gates. And the kind of cause and effect, reductive, analytical type binary encoding of thinking is implicated much more than a singular exemplary case of capitalistic failings. We need a new OS: and to find one …we need a new way of thinking in networks of interactive flows: not fixed identitarian icons.

Cognitive iconisation works by negation and erasure of all the surrounding interdependency networks that produce an iconic ‘Bill Gates’. In other words: monopoly capitalism does not orbit solely around Gates. When you extend the horizon of interoperability dependencies: where do you stop? The whole fucking knowledge and memory system is corrupted …sometime back in history – from way before there were even telegraph systems. From at least as far as the early roots in Miletus: 2,600 years before personal computing and the Internet even began.

Did you know binary encoding came from the ancient *Yijing* (I Ching: book of changes): adapted by Leibniz? No, neither did I until Alan Watts reminded me. So: what combination of ones and zeros encodes a baby’s smile? Or when my dog looks at me expectantly: what is the binary signification of that? Or when I walk among the apple blossom: is that a combination of zeros and ones that perfumes the air? Or …Or …Or …Or (error code) SYSTEMS FAILURE!

More fool we that we – in the most general sense – reduced the affective sensual intensities and sensibilities and meanings of life to binaries? Can we even encode what is truly meaningful? Can we communicate aesthetics, ethics, mystery, beauty or just the sheer fucking hell of it in insignificant self-referential binary code? I say no.

We need a new OS: it is called life. And the purely exuberant uncoded version is available for actual free. But we chose the systems copy of the copy of the copy of the copy… …that has been encoded and decoded in a bad infinity hyperloop …that has been digitised, virtualised, monetised, as privatised profitability and monopoly. By which we – in the broadest sense – embraced and extended the status and power of one Bill Gates. The jury is, for the moment, out on the last ‘E’.

Gates is the product of the all-inclusivity of the operating and ordering system. The failure of the system is the full intensification, affective signification, and effective communication of the truly free OS of life cannot be reduced to code. Any code. Life is a one off momentary experiential that is completely recalcitrant to reproduction by any other means. If we ever embraced and extended that for interoperability at the social and cultural scale: Bill Gates would be a piss poor traveling salesman hawking shit goods and snake oil no one in their right mind would want to buy. And we would not have to worry about that other ‘E’. More is the pity we did not choose that living, irreducible, and unique version of the OS?

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
May 2, 2020 9:31 AM
Reply to  BigB

Can we even encode what is truly meaningful? Can we communicate aesthetics, ethics, mystery, beauty or just the sheer fucking hell of it in insignificant self-referential binary code? I say no.

It is true that you represent and transform into binary and higher dimensional forms. So IMO we can encode the meaningful. An important question is can we communicate those later qualities. Even making a making a dumb copy is open to question, for the smallest of things holds an infinite amount of information. But all of it only gains meaning through you and your interpretation, depending on your semantics and philosophy. I have a painting of a tree that says you could if you did it right. The painting is itself an encoding. It speaks for itself.

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 10:03 AM
Reply to  BigB

Well over a decade ago the first time i installed Ubuntu, i changed the skin on VCL movie player it corrupted the whole OS couldn’t even login to it. LOL. Windows 7 was a good OS (at least a big improvement on past windows systems) Until service pack 1. But I would never install windows 10, that is one big spyware package, so it will be back to Ubuntu hope its improved not a corporate sell out.

Who funds Ubuntu, Google? Does Gates still have shares in microsoft? I only use firefox because i don’t like google, only to find out guess who funds firefox, yep google. Apple are no better, their software is just as evil & the cult of iphone is irrational, but it shows how insidious advertising & marketing has become, & how profitable user data is, its all part of the psyop against humanity & nature. Neo-liberal corporate fingers in every pie, nothing on a digital platform can be trusted.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
May 2, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  BigB

Is it one and zero, or simply on and off Big B?
Zero doesn’t exist of course.
How can nothing have existence?
Maybe it’s possible to turn Gates and his ilk off.
To turn their system into a big fat zero.
That WOULD be a coup and a half.

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 2:13 PM
Reply to  BigB

Microsoft was ingrained into the Economic System through mass buying of licenses by Corporations, Universities, Schools, Hospitals, Government Administrations , Military …. Then recall the pre-installation of the software on computers as they were made to only run on this system. This and other methods effectively shut out mass use of Open System software.

Hail
Hail
May 2, 2020 2:09 AM

Does Bill Gates have ties to Neil Ferguson (also known as “Doctor Frankensson“) by any chance?

Hail
Hail
May 2, 2020 3:10 AM
Reply to  Hail

I spoke (asked) too soon! I see this was addressed in the video:

This year alone, the Gates Foundation has already given $79 million to Imperial College, […]

This is from the section of the video that starts at 12:25. The quoted line on funding is from 14:15.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
May 2, 2020 3:46 AM
Reply to  Hail

Check out the “1. Gavi and Imperial College” section in this page: https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one

Watt
Watt
May 2, 2020 7:42 AM
Reply to  Hail

Hail..I do like Knut’s ‘slip’ of the tongue. That man has a gallows humour to ‘die for’!

Stregs
Stregs
May 2, 2020 2:02 AM

The motive, what’s the motive?
The guy has more money than he and his descendants will ever spend
He has power and influence too
He is literally the person who has everything, so what motivates a man who has it all?
In my opinion, the one thing he may possibly ‘want’ is to help fulfill his families legacy of eugenics, which is long, public and well documented.

I know if i was a gazillionaire, with nothing else to do i may well pick up where my dad left off and throw my money at creating the best sheep farm the world had ever seen 🙂

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 2:27 AM
Reply to  Stregs

Power.
At the end of the day, everything traces back to that. Money, sex, lies, exploitation, manipulation… The more of these obvious attendant luxuries of the amoral you amass, the less satisfying you find them, as is true of any drug. These ‘titans’ then begin to seek the high in its purest form: the power to shape nations, destinies, the fate of their species. I believe they are, to some degree, incapable of reconciling themselves to their own mortality. They seek to either deny death (medical intervention), transcend it (technological intervention), or become ‘gods’ themselves.

“My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 2, 2020 9:29 AM
Reply to  NowhereOH

‘Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of the colossal Wreck. boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away’.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
May 2, 2020 12:28 PM

Exactly.

breweriana
breweriana
May 2, 2020 7:41 PM
Reply to  NowhereOH

My all-time favourite poem – thank you for quoting that.

“And, on the plinth, these words appear:
Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!”

A monument to hubris and arrogance, as well its sculptor knew when he carved it.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 2, 2020 8:01 AM
Reply to  Stregs

Someone who has pursued monopolist business all his life is clearly an authoritarian dictator in mindset. It is as simple as that.

Totalitarians are not driven by empathy, nor are they driven by need. They are driven solely by dominance hierarchies and being the top dog.

It is the mental state of an 8-12 year old child.

That is right: this pensioner has still not entered emotional adolescence, let alone emotional adulthood.

That is how people should think about monopolists: Peter Pans.

The little boys and girls who never grew up.

If people viewed Gates like that, they would not be deferring to him, nor admiring him. They would be barking orders to him like a serjeant major to his privates.

Why aren’t they?

Tom_012
Tom_012
May 2, 2020 2:16 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Looks and PR have effectively disguised his true character though some truth about him as a person has leaked out.

Ort
Ort
May 2, 2020 6:54 PM
Reply to  Stregs

Excerpt from “Key Largo” (1948):

Frank McCloud (Humphrey Bogart) travels to a run-down hotel on Key Largo to honor the memory of a friend who died bravely in his unit during WW II. His friend’s widow, Nora Temple (Lauren Bacall), and wheelchair bound father, James Temple (Lionel Barrymore) manage the hotel and receive him warmly, but the three of them soon find themselves virtual prisoners when the hotel is taken over by a mob of gangsters led by Johnny Rocco (Edward G. Robinson) who hole up there to await the passing of a hurricane. [from IMDb]

Johnny Rocco: Thousands of guys have got guns. There’s only one Johnny Rocco.

James Temple: How do you account for it?

Frank McCloud: He knows what he wants. Don’t you, Rocco?

Johnny Rocco: Sure.

James Temple: What’s that?

Frank McCloud: Tell him, Rocco.

Johnny Rocco: Well, I want uh …

Frank McCloud: He wants more, don’t you, Rocco?

Johnny Rocco: Yeah. That’s it. More. That’s right! I want more!

James Temple: Will you ever get enough?

Frank McCloud: Will you, Rocco?

Johnny Rocco: Well, I never have. No, I guess I won’t. You, do you know what you want?

Frank McCloud: Yes, I had hopes once, but I gave them up.

Johnny Rocco: Hopes for what?

Frank McCloud: A world in which there’s no place for Johnny Rocco.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
May 2, 2020 11:47 PM
Reply to  Ort

Cool memory, Ort :- i used to quote that scene exactly @The Guardian and still watch the film, from time to time, a true classic in traditional terms. There were so many underlying messages on life & moral behaviours, reduced to such a simple common context of surviving a hurricane of wholly engineered circumstances, weather & reflections on multiple misery.

I loved the dumb smiley look on Edward G.’s face, when he answered in the affirmative to the

concept of ‘more’ …

Blather
Blather
May 2, 2020 1:39 AM

Odd er, old nerd. Go retire. Leave US alone. You gave us enough headaches with your Windoze.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
May 2, 2020 1:22 AM

THEY COULDN’T EVEN FILL UP A SMALL BUS

There’s something immoral about an economic system allowing one person to possess $107 billion, or in the case of Bezos $140 billion. Bezo, just purchased a $165 million 9 acre estate in LA. The city has more than 60,000 homeless. COVID-19 will increase those numbers as many are evicted from their homes and apartments. Gates, owns a $150 million dollar home on the Seattle waterfront a city with more than 15,000 homeless. This figure will also rise once the coronavirus dust settles. The three richest people in the US own more wealth than the bottom 50 percent.

Twenty-six of the world’s richest own as much as the poorest 50%
To put it another way, 26 billionaires possess the same amount of wealth as the poorest 3.8 billion.
Wealth accumulated by sucking the life out of billions.

Indigent populations don’t need a Universal Basic Income (UBI) they need a redistribution of wealth. An abundance of resources are controlled by so few they couldn’t even fill up a small bus.

Maybe the reason why the world is in such a mess is because blowhard billionaires possess all the wealth, while 800 million indigent migrant indians are left to fend for themselves during India’s COVID-19 lockdown. Millions more are starving in South Africa, and there’s food riots in Lebanon.

On every continent indigenous populations live in economic agony while insufferable billionaires establish foundations to expand their wealth and glory under the guise of philanthropy. Gates achieved is fortune by illegally crushing all his software competitors, now he’s eager to micromanage the lives of billions. Indigenous populations don’t need to probed, prodded, or vaccinated by Bill and his medical buddies they just need a chance to live a decent life.

The indigent in underdeveloped countries are governed by tyrannical wealthy puppet regimes that allow multinational corporations to extract most of their resources leaving greater poverty in its wake. And if
that’s not enough, “philanthropic Gates” appears ready to offer the desperate chemically harvested foods and questionable vaccines.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 2, 2020 1:14 AM

Enjoy your ‘two minutes of hate’ but Gates is just a decoy.

Oliver
Oliver
May 2, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Know the enemy: it is the Crown.

Objective
Objective
May 2, 2020 10:07 AM
Reply to  Oliver

Technology is the true enemy, royalty holds no power other than that afforded by their lackeys, servants & sycophants.

Its always the camp guards that hold the most guilt.

Oliver
Oliver
May 2, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  Objective

Royalty holds no power? Could have fooled me. Bilderberg? Oldenburg? Battenberg? Saxe-Coburg-Gotha? In fairness you point out that that power is given to them. Very effectively.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
May 2, 2020 1:52 PM
Reply to  Oliver

better than pointing at the real power.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 1:03 AM

It has to be said that some people – an accurately measurable percentage – suffer from megalomania. In less cultivated circles, they are commonly described as having “gone mad”, while the famous Lord Acton quip about “absolute power corrupts absolutely” applies perfectly here. This video makes it quite clear that with Gates we are not even dealing with a particularly bright man, ever since his earliest years as a “prominent” figure in our society. His response on the video to some penetrating questions about unfair practices showed a very slow intellect, and a childishly stubborn one. The recording should have gone sufficiently “viral” to finish his career. By comparison, Ben Bernanke’s response in 2008 to insinuations that he was deliberately wrecking the economy so that a small percent of speculators could make a fortune – and get the public to pay for it – looks like a masterpiece of noble oratory (despite being, in fact, nothing more edifying than slithering, cunning mendacity).
I’ve come to the conclusion that the mainstream media’s clear agenda of dumbing us down has succeeded admirably. Gates and the clones of “successful people” currently controlling everything on our planet are, basically, stupid people. Some are not even people at all, but automatons. This is going to take a lot of work to fix… I’m generally not in favour of trying to go back in time to a better age, so I think we should be looking for entirely new solutions to the appalling wickedness in government we seem to be stuck with.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 2, 2020 2:30 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Rockefeller likewise. He was, quite literally, a snake oil salesman. Does that sound like the first choice of career for an intellect, even if he is set on becoming fanatically rich. Are the bully boy tactics used by Rockefeller and Gates the techniques of an intellect? Are we looking at two brutes?
Education, and dumbing down the rest of us was an obsession of Rockefeller. No, he was not simply basking in the shine of great universities as a compensation for his own poor education: Rockefeller wanted to destroy education – see John Dewey,”The Primary-Education Fetich” (sic).
UNESCO World Core Curriculum – Bill Gates signed a 2004 deal to form a master curriculum – Gates poured $2 billion into Common Core – UNESCO works with The Lucis Trust’s publishing company was founded in the early 1920s as the Lucifer Publishing Company.
Some great writers who have exposed Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford and Gates are: Charlotte Iserbyt,“The Deliberate Dumbing Down Of America”; John Taylor Gatto, Dumbing Us Down; Samuel Blumenfeld, Crimes of the Educator.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dumbing-down-of-america-by-design/5395928

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 3:37 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Thanks for the info, Money. I came across Charlotte Iserbylt a few years ago. Fascinating to hear her talk. That’s a bright person.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 4:00 AM
Reply to  wardropper

The strange thing about the Global Research article is that it draws attention to how the ideas of people like Julian Huxley contain a mixture of truths and dubious propositions – for example the idea that nationalism and family ties were things which education should not support.
The point is that context is everything. Without knowing how much mysticism or religion Huxley studied, it’s hard to see whether he misunderstood, or simply confused together, some of the ideas to be found in those subjects.
To certain mystics – Buddhists, for instance, the path to enlightenment entailed the renunciation of all attachment. Nationalism and family ties both qualify there, and are seen as hindrances to that enlightenment. However, for most Americans, nationality and family are everything, so we are clearly not talking about a path to enlightenment there…
Philosophy has fascinated me for a long time, and the wealth of material to contemplate is clearly endless. At some point, though, one has to decide what matters most, and avoid trying to know everything. Otherwise I suspect madness lurks in there somewhere…
For now, I think a reasonable goal is to try and remember what still matters DESPITE the CoVid coup, to use simple intelligence to survive through it and to prepare for a post-virus life of OUR choosing, not Rockefeller’s.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 2, 2020 9:51 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Nationalism is almost always negative, mere jingoism or chauvinism exploited by demagogues. Love of your place, or ‘country’ as the blackfellas say, is fair enough, that ground from which you sprung and where you grew, but why would a New Yorker love Montana more than Alberta, or Oaxaca or Patagonia. We are denizens of Earth, briefly, and all men and women are our kin, and all Life our cousins.

wardropper
wardropper
May 2, 2020 3:02 PM

I agree totally, but my concerns are for the general public, which is NOT on a path to enlightenment, and therefore can’t see anything but nationalism and family as straws at which to clutch in its “pursuit of happiness”.
“No Child Left Behind” as a phrase sounds very noble and heartwarming, but we shouldn’t be forgetting the frightful prospect of hundreds of millions of Americans and others being left behind too, due to deliberately wrecked education systems.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 2, 2020 9:47 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The American diet, food and information, would dumb down an Aristotle. Not to forget the total Groupthink.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
May 2, 2020 9:31 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Even sadder are those who suffer from megalomania, but have no talents whatsoever.

Jose Silveira
Jose Silveira
May 2, 2020 1:02 AM

It seems to me, that billionaires don’t go philanthropists out of guilt, at all!
Philanthropy is a PR stunt and, most of all, a very rewarding business, not only in terms of imposing an agenda on others, but also because those millions invested in “good deeds” only go out with all sorts of strings attached, channeling those funds back to industries and investments where the so-called “philanthropist” gets paid back much more that he invested. It’s a real Trojan horse!
I’ll re-post here my short comment to James’ video:
There’s a new special place being made in Hell, exclusively for Philanthropists, the worst kind of deceiving evil people on Earth – for whatever they seem to give away, they get orders of magnitude back, while destroying the life of millions in the process!