WATCH: Prof Sunetra Gupta on LockdownTV
Professor Sunetra Gupta was one of the first scientists to publicly criticise the now widely-discredited Imperial Model. Her team’s work at Oxford suggested both that the coronavirus had been in the country much earlier than expected, and that consequently the infection fatality rate was far lower than either WHO or Imperial College had estimated. (She also appeared in our second list of experts coming out against the coronavirus hysteria).
In a wide-ranging interview with Unherd.com‘s Freddie Sayer, Prof Gupta talks antibodies, R0 numbers and much more.
Here are a few choice quotes:
- “Different countries have had different lockdown policies, and yet what we’ve observed is almost a uniform pattern of behaviour”
- “Infection Fatality Rate is less than 1 in 1000 and probably closer to 1 in 10,000.”
- “Remaining in a state of lockdown is extremely dangerous”
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Excerpt from an article which disagrees with Oxford’s COVID analysis – quoting economist Tim Hartford. Would appreciate peoples comments: https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/archives/debate-rages-over-severely-flawed-imperial-study-that-sparked-the-uk-lockdown/ “Commenting on this University of Oxford research, Tim Hartford, UK economist writes in a Financial Times report that according to John Ioannidis, an iconoclastic epidemiologist, we know less than we think. But, writes Hartford, we are not completely ignorant. He writes that alongside the COVID-19 death total, there are other clues to the truth. For example, thousands of people were evacuated from Wuhan city in late January and February and most of them were tested. A few tested positive and several were indeed symptom-free, but not the large majority the Oxford version of the tip-of-the-iceberg hypothesis would imply. The entire population of the town of Vò in Italy was repeatedly tested and, while half of the positive cases were asymptomatic, that is still much less than the Oxford model might… Read more »
Anyone remember the infamous “AIDS virUS”?
We are all being played and it’s always the same song. Follow the money and the agenda.
To the masters of the universe….we are the virus and they want us gone, but meanwhile the milking of the herd goes on and the herd is grateful to the industrious pigs overseeing our Animal Farm dystopia.
The problem lies in nature itself…like the wolf pack that humanity unfortunately is.
Do you want to live in a “society” with 99 sheep in the pack and one wolf culling at its will or survive in a pack of wolves tearing one sheep to bits?
Blame nature that the sheeple are too meek, lazy and dumb to go on living and too blind to see the yellow fangs of the presstitutes, political bancksters and political filth that herd them around the slaughter house at their will.
With the best will in the world, I cannot find it in me to blame Nature for anything. You might as well blame a wolf for killing a sheep, as if the wolf had a serious choice there – perhaps something along the lines of, “Well, perhaps I should be a more decent wolf and look for alternative means of satisfying my hunger besides slaughter. What about developing my agricultural skills a bit, so that I could cultivate turnips or something?” A wolf is a wolf, a sheep is a sheep, and Nature is Nature. What’s remarkable about us humans, on the other hand, is that we have individual choices which the wolf and the sheep do not have. We can contemplate your question: Do you want to live in a “society” with 99 sheep in the pack and one wolf culling at its will or survive in a pack… Read more »
Just a P.S. to my rather long comment – a heartfelt thank you for the excellent video on HIV and AIDS! Remarkable how exactly that compelling evidence fits into our current CoVid scenario…
Why doesn’t offguardian address the concern that the virus has not been isolated, purified and visualized making the tests completely meaningless? Every criticism takes as its point of departure that the virus exists
Just give us the links, David. I’m sure all of us here would be very happy to receive them. Thanks in advance.
Go here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/david-crowe-36822552
And here:
http://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
Thanks Maxwell. I remembered seeing some of this information a couple of weeks ago, but I couldn’t remember the name. I’m old enough to remember my father spraying DDT on our garden vegetables, but my mother was trained as a fever nurse, so no viruses, bacteria, or insecticides of any description ever survived a scrupulous washing by her hands. That’s probably why I’m still alive, and in good health…
Also this from Dr Andrew Kaufman:
Everyone should watch this. Thanks for posting it, JudyJ.
I think (I keep no copies) I previously posted in one of the Off-Guardian’s COVID-19 BTLs (I have insufficient time to scroll through so many) that a/the etiological pathogen that causes COVID-19 was isolated as a virus by a team at McMaster University.
In the above video, Kaufman mentions that claim but does not go into much analysis of the it because the Sunnybrook team had not (either then or to his knowledge) published a detailed academic paper on their methodology. They have (since?) done so.
If you accept Rivers’ viral update of Koch, as interpreted by Kaufman then, while they may well have isolated a/the causative virus as claimed, they have not provably done so.
The point that Kaufman makes is that the ‘methodology’ used by the McMaster team — which to Kaufman is ascertainable from what little has been publicized by the team and which is really the crux of the issue — cannot result in the degree of purification and visualisation necessary to establish that anything like a virus has been isolated, let alone underpin any ‘proof’ that a virus is the causative agent of COVID-19 or any other disease.
Here is a short monograph by Kevin P. Corbett MSc PhD that makes essentially the same argument that Kaufman makes, that is to say, methodologically speaking:
Where is the Evidence for the Existence of the Novel Coronavirus?
I found that link HERE, at one of David Crowe’s invaluable sites . . .
“The point that Kaufman makes is that the ‘methodology’ used by the McMaster team — which to Kaufman is ascertainable from what little has been publicized by the team and which is really the crux of the issue — cannot result in the degree of purification and visualisation necessary to establish that anything like a virus has been isolated, let alone underpin any ‘proof’ that a virus is the causative agent of COVID-19 or any other disease.” Hello Mr Pilon, Thank you for the ‘condecension marks’ enclosing the word ‘methodology’. I know what Kaufman’s point was as I watched the video. My post was to inform any readers here interested that a full academic paper on the work of the McMaster researchers, apparently unavailable to Kaufman when he recorded the video, has now (?) been published. It may be of use to some in amplifying the context of his remarks.… Read more »
Also, an amazing array of stuff here, going back over many years:
https://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv.php
I must admit, I only discovered David Crowe during the Covid-19 saga, but looking back on his work, he’s been active in tracing viral panics since the days of HIV-AIDs, which was the first thing he became suspicious about. It’s a long story, but from his perspective, the SARS-CoV-2 “viral panic” is just one more in a series of viral panics which take place from time to time, and was to some extent predictable.
Bill Gates’s CORONAPOCALYPSE Plannedemic is failing because those of us who didn’t buy the MSM fear narrative exposed his Ministers of propaganda Fauci’s & Birk’s lies.
*”If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” — Joseph Goebbels*
Yet the cowards among us are too afraid to defy the lockdown.
*”Zombies, believe me, are more terrifying than colonists.”—Frantz Fanon*
Take to the streets to keep up the pressure! Just say NO to the CONJOB-19
Scandemic!
Invaders of the Body Snatchers (1965) Ending Scene — “They’re here!”
https://youtu.be/NIvH2dPolsM
’If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever.’—George Orwell 1984
We Will Win!
The British government need to be held to account for what they’ve done. Yes the lockdown should be ended immediately that’s a no brainier but it’s not enough. There needs to be accountability for where the tax payers money is being spent. The money given to fund vaccines and the money given to support the financial markets needs to be frozen until there’s an independent enquiry into this whole fiasco. Every person and every business effected needs to be financially compensated no matter what the cost. Funding needs to be given to have a proper health care system and information provided by what vitamins and nutrients are required to support your immune system. A full public apology, followed by a swift resignation by every politician within the Tory government. These politicians and Sage should be charged with deliberately misleading the public, charged with Treason and should spend their lives behind… Read more »
“no matter what the cost” is precisely the kind of so called thinking that resulted in the adoption of the “lockdown” measures in the first place.
“no matter what the cost” would only be a reasonable approach to policy-making in a world of unlimited resources. Trying to do something “no matter what the cost” will inevitably result in more harm than benefit.
Every person and every business effected needs to be financially compensated no matter what the cost. If you viewed the video to the end you will be aware that Professor Gupta pointed out that only a hundred years ago the average person lived in a permanent moderate lockdown. Despite having an empire on which the sun never set, apart from military service and the pursuit of a few specific vocations, relatively few ordinary Joes travelled more than 30 or 40 miles from their home in their entire lives, many not more than 20, and, when they did, the speed of long haul transport was such that most infections had burnt themselves out and committed the excess overboard before their ship reached its home port. And you know what? Disease, class exploitation and other man made miseries aside, their lives were as full of living as yours. Nobody asked you to… Read more »
Erratum: for “tiddlewinks” read “tiddlywinks”.
I don’t actually believe ‘They’ can accurately diagnose coronavirus. So, where do we go from there? Admit that a lot of the numbers were never even diagnosed – ‘lump ’em in if you suspect’ – and the diagnosis is unreliable? After all, what are this year’s flu stats? Let’s get back to life. And FREEDOM.
FREEDOM does NOT exist. You are mortal, your every choice is dictated by rules, regulations and laws, your life opportunities are determined by your psychology, your upbringing, your genetic background, your socialisation, your appearance, your wealth or poverty and your luck, and any residual freedom ought not interfere with the freedom of others. It’s a narrow cage, overall.
FREEDOM does NOT exist. Yet I choose to reply to your comment. Maybe next time, I’ll choose not to. I’ll think it over first. What is generally meant by freedom in practical terms, that is in our earthly life, is not some ideal and heavenly situation where we are not influenced by any ideas, for, in that case we would not act as all. There is always a purpose for our actions even if we are not conscious of it, so we are always motivated to some extent, that is, moved to act. Of course our motivations are determined by our education and a lot of other things, but the practical fact of being able to ponder and compare different courses of action, then be able and let to choose after premeditation which one to follow, is what we refer to when speaking of freedom. To me, after premeditation, I… Read more »
You also seem to have chosen not to reply to any extent, in any way to his central point, disguised as a leftover:
Any reason for that conspicuous omission?
I think I see your point now. Maybe we are using the same word “freedom” but refer to different conceptions of it. To illustrate my point, and based of your comments, you probably would qualify someone who always does as he pleases without any restraints as exercising his freedom, but I’d probably qualify him as a slave. Acting impulsively and without restraint is not freedom, as I conceive it; it’s exactly the opposite, for, one is acting thoughtlessly; but I understand that in this day and age it is perceived as being a manifestation of one’s “freedom”. It is interesting how word “freedom” came to mean exactly the opposite of what it originally meant. It is the same story with the word “socialism” and “communism”. To revert to Richard’s comment, the point I wanted to make is that, we, as human beings have an innate ability to ponder over things,… Read more »
You think you see my point? Think on. Reverting to Richard, as you did,
Crikey. What do you call that sort of meditation? The Way of the All Encompassing Navel?
I am sure most people that come to this site come from English-speaking countries; I am not, and it is amazing that you should associate the word “meditation” with some Oriental discipline. A little superficial association don’t you think?
From Merriam Webster:
Born out of: has occurred because of, inspired by, etc.
Meditation: the act or process of meditating;
Meditating: engage in contemplation of reflection.
There you might get my meaning but don’t bother to reply.
Please! Allow me the ‘freedom’ to bother to reply before I have to tear it out of your presumptuous grasp ‘without restraint’. NOUN (UK & US English) mass noun Self-indulgent or excessive contemplation of oneself or a single issue, at the expense of a wider view. ‘he lapsed into his customary navel-gazing’ as modifier: ‘navel-gazing New Age types’ Synonyms: brooding, self-analysis, soul-searching, heart-searching, introversion, self-observation, self-absorption — Lexico.com Lexico.com is a new collaboration between Dictionary.com and Oxford University Press (OUP) to help users worldwide with everyday challenges . Meditation has proven difficult to define as it covers a wide range of dissimilar practices in different traditions. In popular usage, the word “meditation” and the phrase “meditative practice” are often used imprecisely to designate practices found across many cultures. These can include almost anything that is claimed to train the attention of mind or to teach calm or compassion. […] Claudio… Read more »
I concede to that; I may sound presumptuous, but then It may be because I have arguments which I’d like to share and discuss. So what did you do about it? Have you put forward some counter-arguments related to the question raised, “what does human freedom mean and does it exist?”? Have you expressed your thoughts about it to show that I am wrong and drive me out of my shallow and vain presumption? Or is it easier to tell me so and hide away, or make quotes and joke about them? Then, you took the trouble to quote what OTHERS have to say about the word meditation!!!!! Let me get this straight: do you mean that you can’t guess the meaning of a word within a sentence in a particular context? What is the context of these comments? Are we discussing some tradition, some mental discipline or practice? Is… Read more »
This is an inhospitable milieu for much of that sort of behaviour but, to some consequently limited degree, yes: see my response to wardropper.
My purely personal, ‘fuck you too’ identification of your ‘presumption’ referred only to your very inadequately quantified ‘probability’ that:
“…you probably would qualify someone who always does as he pleases without any restraints as exercising his freedom…”
No. I would classify him or her as prone to inopportunely relaxing his or her anal sphincter. I don’t recall any (thus also compoundingly presumptuous) reference to ‘vanity’.
“And last but not least: “little grasshopper, nail, arrow, knife linking to a website about the Jewish tradition of circumcision (?), Way of Encompassing Navel, etc”. I don’t know what to make of it.” “Little Grasshopper” was the affectionate name given to an acolyte character by his master character in an ancient tv series about the life of learning Shaolin Kung Fu in, I think, a Shaolin monastery in Henan. From what I was able to gather, he would graduate when he could defeat his master, who was totally blind and who wore great, big totally white, theatrical contact lenses to prove it, but who could see everything around him anyway, especially little insect combatants. I don’t know if Little Grasshopper ever did graduate because the Shaolin lifestyle didn’t suit me and I was an early dropout. Meanwhile, elsewhere, some Zen masters developed the fine conceit that master archers become… Read more »
But, what if your ‘free’ act is against one of the myriad laws that encompass all societies? Or upsets the ‘freedom’ of others? the only ‘free’ man is Crusoe, sans Friday, but even he is subject to the unfreedom of morbidity, mortality and chance. Believe me, one way or another, you’ll be ‘free’ when you are dead.
Well, let’s call it “relative freedom” if you prefer. Long experience has convinced me that human beings are not on the same spectrum as artificial intelligence, whereas your diagnosis would seem to be a useful first step in pronouncing us all sophisticated machines, ready to serve that artificial intelligence.
I’m not buying it. Some will.
“…your diagnosis would seem to be a useful first step in pronouncing us all sophisticated machines, ready to serve that artificial intelligence.”
How do you figure that? After listing many of the factors that might serve to limit an individual’s actual freedom, which could be as wide as their freedom from those limiting factors, stated and unstated, allows, he lists only one, simple, further, operational, ethical constraint:
“Fuck ethics, it’s my freedom that counts” being your ‘philosophy’? Or not?
It was simply my response to “FREEDOM does NOT exist”, since I know it does. You rightly point to the ethics behind “any residual freedom ought not to interfere with the freedom of others”, but I do not consider freedom to live either in that residue, or to be completely defined by the many “factors that might serve to limit” that freedom. My argument, as stated, was that the thinking of human beings is not on the same spectrum as artificial intelligence, and the consequence of allowing oneself to be sucked into the current fashion of imagining that it is (computers rule the world in chess, for example), will inevitably undermine our freedom to think, which is, in the end, the basis of all freedom. Thinking has evolved naturally (obviously to different degrees) in human beings, and it is my conviction that it should therefore be USED naturally, and not… Read more »
“It was simply my response to “FREEDOM does NOT exist”, since I know it does.” So you, or some part of your cognition, is some kind of standard reference of “FREEDOM”, a bit like the piece of metal in Paris is the standard reference for the meter, or was before they changed the standard reference for the meter to a measure of the time-based aspect of the radiation emitted by an isotope of a natural element and the speed of light in the same Einsteinian frame of reference? Or is it more like a standard reference form of synesthesia (or, more recently, in the neuroscience magisterium, meter-like ideasthesia)? What if it’s just an abstract noun, completely meaningless factually or emotionally in any magisterium, until it’s defined, with varying degrees of freedom, explicitly or implicitly, by constraining adjectives–adjectives of single words, volumes, or entire histories of peaples–relating to time, space, place,… Read more »
Honestly, I did not make the claim your bloated interpretation of my first sentence implies. Given a little goodwill, it really ought to go without saying that I fully realize that what I “know” does not necessarily constitute reality for anyone else. However, by the same token, you can’t forbid me, or anyone else, to know something, on the grounds that it might not coincide with other people’s experience.
“Freedom”, assuming we’re not talking about staying out of jail, is a philosophic matter, and, as such, I happen to have given it a lot of thought. You may have come to completely different conclusions, as is your perfect right.
P. S. I can see that my reply does not match the respectful tone of yours, and I do apologize. You are quite right about intellectual humility.
“I can see that my reply does not match the respectful tone of yours, and I do apologize.” No problem. (1) I didn’t notice, perhaps because (2) I’m sometimes pretty disrespectful myself, often unintentionally but not always. Either way it sorts out those who are talking from attitude rather than thought or experience or genuine insight, etc. Those who have something to say seldom care. If you put out something that is to the point of a discussion but be could be seen as a bit disrespectful, or if anything you put out meets with only increasingly forceful repetition and/or clearly ruffles feathers and throws up accusations of ad hominems, etc., then you know you might as well give up and talk about the weather instead. Or switch to intentional mode and have some fun. I’ve never been big on respect. In itself it’s the currency of bullies with an… Read more »
A very accommodating reply. Thank you again. When confronted by “difficult” people on the topic of respect, I try to assess whether they command respect, or simply demand it, but I am pretty sure that quite a few people can’t even see the difference in that sublety of the English language. It’s a fine thing to be here among people who are genuinely doing their best with some pretty upsetting topics these days.
I do believe in the ‘freedom’ of resisting impositions on your existence, whether motivated by malice or misplaced ‘benevolence’.But whether it extends to violence, or worse, depends on the imposition. Compulsory vaccination seems to me to be an affront too far.
ROUND ONE Professor Sunetra Gupta correctly summed up the situation when she said lockdowns are a middle-class luxury which the poor cannot afford. It’s also a luxury small businesses can’t afford or small property owners who count on rental income for their economic survival. But most importantly, lockdowns are a predicament liberal democracies cannot enforce without becoming totalitarian. And this brings me to the millions donated by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to the Imperial College. In 2018, the Imperial College received $14.5 million in grants from the Gates Foundation to improve and expand access to health care in developing countries. Euphemistically this means testing new and improved vaccines on indigenous populations. The Imperial College statistical model is singled out as a reliable predictor of COVID-19 doom and gloom, because Gates and the Davos bloodsuckers are interested in restructuring Western societies. An apocalyptic virus predicted to kill millions creates… Read more »
And of course it will just be coincidental if those who are vaccinated for pandemic 1 are most likely to be “infected” during pandemic 2, or any other so-called pandemic coming our way.
Good point. Often those who take
flu shots get a bad case of influenza.
My postman this morning was really chuffed. I asked why, and he showed me a note the sender had stuck on a package to me: ‘Thanks, Postie, for all your work during Coronavirus.’ ‘I don’t really believe in this Coronavirus,’ he told me. ‘But it’s nice to get a bit of appreciation, whatever the cause!’ So I gave him a hug and told him I appreciate him too. Good bloke.
her and her family have made millions from the germ theory
you can see it in her eyes
guilt treading on egg shells
all these models are masonic lies
a day of reykoning will come to these gangs counter gangs and pseudo gangs
selling souls dollars pounds and sheckles
Great interview but I have few points to make. I agree with professor Gupta that SC2 ct-qPCR testing is worthless, provides no reliable data as it is unspecific and returns positives for Influenza and other common viruses but sorry, criticizing serological tests with legacy and legitimacy of 100 years of successful application, a tests that do not systematically produce false positives is disingenuous and unfair. The small number of serological tests’ errors are procedural only while most of these are interpretative errors due to confusion about immune response lag. Say Monday one may test IgA negative but by Friday becomes test positive for IgA then in some time later tests negative for IgA but positive for IgM and/or IgG. It is not a failure of serological test as supposedly “confusing” for laymen results are due to 7-10 days of lag between inoculation and development of specific group of antibodies which… Read more »
I too was waiting for her to comment on the unreliability of the test.
I suppose as a Professor at Oxford, she may have to tread a little carefully so I don’t hold it against her or think the omission unduly diminishes the credibility of the other points she made. I was actually quite surprised she went as far as she did with some of her points.
The antibody test is also suspect:
http://theinfectiousmyth.com/coronavirus/AntibodyTestingForCOVID.pdf
A great experience today and one which confirms my opinion that the great majority of NON GUARDIANISED working people really are wise to the fraudulent nature of this whole scamdemic. My wife got in severe panic mode earlier in the week not because of the ‘virus’ but because our washing machine broke down. The thought of going for a prolonged time without this modern bit of labour saving kit had a far more devastating effect on my good lady than any world catastrophe dreamed up by Neil Ferguson and promulgated by our excuse for a Prime minister. An on line trip around the major domestic appliance suppliers met with a mixed response. The one that would ‘never knowingly be undersold’ isn’t supplying white goods full stop. Other big shops would supply a machine but wouldn’t fit it or come into the house but would simply leave it outside the front… Read more »
Harry hopkins, I do apologise, but I have got to post this again – courtersey of Clark (rumoured ex moderator of Craig Murray’s blog) It looks as boring as sh1t, but just be patient wait for it. I would never even think of doing that. I even like the drumming.
“Thrash Metal Washing Machine”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dIeT6tsauA
Tony xx
Clark was an ex-moderator on CM? Now that is interesting.
Loved your story, Harry. I have also found that the more highly educated my good friends are, in general, the more they show gullibility. And I thought they were intelligent! Another friend of mine has not been well educated (except by life), and she is far more aware. Most gullible friend, am sad to say, is a medical doctor living in Germany who I’ve known and liked for over 30 years.
This is exactly my experience. Most of my friends on Facebook and Twitter are very pro lock down. They find my attitude and posts really baffling but what I’ve found is that there are also many who disagree with the lock down but remain silent. I started off quietly, posting an alternative view here and there but now I’ve gone unapologetically full rant anti lockdown. But the other day I decided to just start talking to random people in the street about this crazy situation and most of them agreed. I think there is a danger of being too infected by social media and msm thinking that it is real life attitudes when in fact most normal people are much more sensible and less brain washed than we imagine. It gives me hope.
Good to hear you had your new artificial human being and its associated artificial human beings (manufacture, transport, maintenance, power, etc) replaced by such co-operative indirectly hired help. Pity all those extra artificial people’s overconsumption of planetary resources, such as your dishwasher and your vacuum cleaner and your motor chariot and your hols in France, etc., have augmented the planetary load of real human beings such as you and your wife alone to the extent of engendering the very conditions that help give rise to the rapid spread of opportunistic diseases such as COVID-19 as well as the increasing impoverishment of those who cannot even dream of having a washing machine and whose idea of an overseas break has to be confined to a one-way trip on an overcrowded leaky boat in the Mediterranean. Give your wife a kiss from them. And don’t join any dots, you never know where… Read more »
I’m pleased to see this here. I was aware of it, but had not viewed it until tonight.
I actually much preferred Freddie’s recent discussion with Karol Sikora, which was briefly banned, but then reinstated by youtube.
Prof Gupta seems to be basically saying that there are too many variables, too many unknowns to model it accurately. Half an hour to not say very much at all. It was good though to see her suggesting that the ending of “lockdown” would be a good thing.
“Prof Gupta seems to be basically saying that there are too many variables, too many unknowns to model it accurately. Half an hour to not say very much at all.” Per sentence: ‘Not really’ or ‘not quite but, rather, much more than that’ Not so. Rather, half an hour to say a great deal more than all of the “experts” lined up in the extraordinary ‘libertarian harangue’ (her words) being conducted by–on this subject– this unfortunately shoddily partisan site, both BTL (if unavoidably given its admirably inclusive publication policy) and, unfortunately (thus) provocatively overencouraged even despite the massive MSM promulgation of another, different monolithic view, ATL. “It was good though to see her suggesting that the ending of “lockdown” would be a good thing.” Could, after scrupulous consideration of the epidemiological evidence, properly assessed in light of equally properly assessed, recently emerging clinical developments and evidence therefrom, set against the… Read more »
This is surely one of the most depressing images yet (caption: A member of staff kitted out in PPE plays kick about during a training session at Liverpool’s Melwood Training Ground)-
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I hoped that the exposing of Cummings and earlier Ferguson, indicates a battle at the top of government between British Loyalists and the CIA patsies who have destroyed the UK economy, but I won’t hold my breath. I think the UK became pretty much under total US control in 2005. It looks more like just scapegoating to protect Johnson, as the people realise most of the lockdown was a scam, even if they don’t realise it was a scam to cover up for the 9 trillion stollen from the American people and we were just cover.
It certainly shows what Insiders really think about it, ie what you read on here.
Oh I think we are very much part of it think Christopher steele admitting in UK court dossier unverified and paid for by Clinton dnc aided by our m15/6 lot to interfere in US election. Our Pirbright institute has coronavirus patent through Serco which is golden share of monarch. See American intelligence media to discover our deep state
In the decade and a half from Wall Street’s early mass-investor realization of the profit potential of gentech neary 20,000 patents of human DNA were registered, many thousands more of animal, plant and microbial DNA, including many on aspects of the use of coronaviruses as vehicles for the delivery of gene therapy and adjuvant sensitivity and thousands related to the technology of gene manipulation. Only a very small proportion of those are part of the currently-despised Gates Gang’s coronavirus and generalized vaccination portfolio. Suggest you get some background or get a life. Either would be an improvement.
Yes ok totally agree the home detention is tyranny, from the tyrants and govt that invented and support the fictions and falsified data used. But infection with what? We are infected with a quadrillion viruses as healthy people have a virome. Is it Influenza? as they did not test for it or any other known viruses and they ignored all co morbid conditions in the dead. If ancient corona virus is part of human dna( 8% dna is alleged to be virus derived) and corona is up the noses of healthy people as it is in their virome( & not attributed to disease said by the virologists that have studied the virome). This, the human virome, is a new area and not much is known except healthy people are ” infected” with many viruses and the human virome is not seen as being pathological . Think of healthy gut bacteria… Read more »
With the supposed pending availability of antibody tests for all to access (albeit I’m not sure how reliable any result they produce can be) I really relish the prospect of everybody who takes one being found to be positive. I’d really like to see the Government explain that away. Unfortunately I suspect it’s probably more likely that the tests will just throw out random positive/negative results.
Yes, I’d like to hear them announce: “It turns out that, er, you’re all immune. So you can, er, all go home….er, I mean, you can all leave home…”.
(Then it would later come out that we were all immune at least a month ago, and when people realised they’ve been shut up unnecessarily, there would be pitchfork-wielding masses marching on Downing Street and Broadcasting House….).
Hi Judy Virologists and paleovirologists disproved ” germ theory ” in the new study of human virome also . Both the PCT tests and antibody tests are meaningless . Antibody tests do not prove anything . If you have corona antibody you may have current infection or you may be immune ( antibody says you have corona antibody so you either have it or had it and are immune or maybe you are not immune). Antibody test just says you have an antibody. As you mentioned there are also false positives and negatives , cross contamination with other viruses, on top of the contaminated unpurified rna transcription . Usage of PCR test does not determine cause of disease and cannot be used to . It is not surprising they did not test everyone to start with as the bogus fatality rate( probably influenza and other sickness and age)was only based… Read more »
I know it’s been said loads of times …. must read
https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2020/05/23/fascist-bureaucracy-versus-elected-incompetence-does-the-covid19-cloud-have-a-silver-lining/
“The opportunity is a 21st century equivalent of barter – that is, physical and localised markets where honest citizens can exchange goods in a mutually beneficial way.”
Its a bureaucrat war against open society and free, unrehearsed, spontaneous movement of individuals in the environment the bureaucrats want to control. Its a militarized design seeking to centralise control of each the behavior and access to information of individuals at the nano levels. Identity of, and gated access control, requiring each person to buy a ticket from them in order to negotiate one’s self in the bureaucratic society is their goal. Total dependency on a fully controlled system,, barter would queer their deal, as would a more efficient block chain.. invention.
What is needed is an independent financial system and system of providing support to the independents that fail and need support. Support in time of need is the only reason people put up with the cronies that run the state.
I liked what you said..
My calling was never to study science, but to help people. That I ended up in science is coincidence. I started my medical career in Australia. At that time Australia had a shortage of doctors and it was fairly easy for a Dutch doctor to work there. The positions offered weren’t the ‘best’ places, like Sydney or Melbourne, but far off places like Tasmania or Outback Queensland. For me that was not a problem, in fact it was adventure! So I ended up in the outback, first in a small city in the outback where I worked on A&E for 2 times 3 months (I made rotations every 3 months) and then as rural GP for 3 months. And I learned about the Australian medical system where Australian graduated doctors had a gag clausule saying that they had to work in rural places for, I think, 4 years, or else… Read more »
Thank you for your thoughtful and articulate post. No apology needed!
Very interesting and thoughtful, as usual Willem.
Trivial point: when I was a kid there was a drama series on the radio called “Flying Doctor”, set in Australia, and with Australian actors, but made by the BBC in England. I think there was a TV version, but I never saw that.
I presume they still have such a service. It was aimed at remote farmsteads or sheep stations in the outback, and in those days, they’d communicate with them via radio. Perhaps it would be done via the internet now, and perhaps a lot of remote diagnosis can be done that way.
The Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia still exists and moreover has continued with its duties even during the COVID-19 lockdowns.
Delighted to hear it! Good on ya mates!
I preferred The Flying Dogtor, a cartoon where the doctor was a dog.
Wondrous word wizardry williem
Willem. Just picking-up on one point about the harm of smoking. King James the I of England (James VI of Scotland) wrote a Counterblast agains the evils of tobacco: it blackens the heart, lungs and brain. I wondered how James knew that, and then recalled he always had a front seat at the execution of traitors (Hanging, drawing and quartering) in which the victims heart was removed (sometimes still beating). He clearly took a very close interest in proceedings. The Guy Fawkes gang and Walter Raleigh were all committed pipe-smokers and thus James may already have been quite anti-smoking, preferring the tea that was introduced by his Portugese wife, Catherine of Braganza….
Apologies for the ridiculous tangent.
That book or long pamphlet is pretty darn hilarious to read, though 🙂
The part we are all neglecting is that NO MATTER the number of voices showing that this is nothing more than a new strain of SARS-CoV (and equally weak) the SRF & Billionaires have their own agenda and it’s running as planned.
And since the Great Herd of Morons really are clueless about their own Health and reject personal Responsibility… we’re presented with this lovely Reality!
Sates are taking back more control, billionaires are not doing that, states are. You need to understand the geopolitical and where the UK fits into world hegemony.
And who owns the governments of states and nations? Increasingly the big corporations and their lobbyists.
Kim… Kim… Lucky you that May Hem wrote that reply!
We are all different, but these are my list in random order, that are helping me to get through this (and it is tough on us all) No 1 A sense of humour, when the sh1t has hit the fan, and you just know it is going to get a hell of a lot worse No 2 Hearing my wife singing, in the shower (or bath) in the morning, and later pounding the floorboards downstairs to her Dance Class at 9:30 am, waking me up. It means she is happy. If she is happy, then I am happy. No 2 Our Son and our Grandkids coming round. No 3 My Dad’s Tools – They got through two world wars, as did he, and they still work brilliantly No 4 Our home and Garden No 5 The prospect of something exciting and invigorating to do soon SAILING So far as I… Read more »
Buster James is not dissimilar to the sort of bloke I imagine you to be Tony.
I thought about you briefly on my walk today. To a degree I envy – but don’t begrudge – your good life. Clearly you have had a wonderful marriage and great family.
I still haven’t given up entirely on being married myself one day.
Are you able to sail then Tony?
I’ve noticed some canoes & kayaks here on the Thames. There is still a sailing club by the Thames near here, but most people seem to sail at the not-too-distant reservoir nowadays, and I’ve no idea whether they’ve opened up for sailing there yet.
Don’t forget people, there was video on twitter I think, where a SAGE member reacts extremely oddly when interviewed but says very clearly – “they did not expect the lockdown to be so well accepted by the population” – the health issues are of diminishing importance now because by all accounts the lockdown should be over – however, to save face and as long as the people beg to be ‘safe’ this will continue until more people physically oppose what is happening – the government is crap but the mass of the population are what’s keeping this hoax alive
Can I just add, as the thought came to me, why the fuck have 66 million brits stood, in shock and awe at being told by Matt Handycock to stay at home and save lives – he must be in ecstacy at the moment – if he’s the best politician on offer in this country at present then dog help us, he’s a fucking loon – what is wrong with everyone??????????????
I’m off to watch ‘Arthur’s Hallowed Ground’ – matt fucking handycock FFS!!!!!!!!!!
we/I need an edit button – admin…?
Or at least a preview facility.
An edit facility would probably mean you’d have to register and login to comment, and that might be too much hassle.
I’ve always wondered what a chinless wonder looked like, but if anyone is one, then he is.
I’m not sure I agree with that Bob. The biggest influences in ‘people want lockdown to continue’ that I can see are the media. The same people responsible for this is in the first place really. I along with my colleagues are considered key workers and I know we at least want this to end. Since the extension we have been waiting expecting even that we will go back on the 1st June. This week it was explained to us that the company sees the lockdown as a 3 phase process at least. Phase 1 was that everyone went home. Phase 2 was the imposition of social distancing measures at work. One way corridors, screens around desks removal of all fridges and microwaves to prevent communal gathering etc. Phase 2 is that 25-30% of workers will return to work as many as social distancing will allow. That is expected to… Read more »
Everyone has the gift of a reasoning mind that they don’t use it is up to them.
Collectively should we be in ignorance and fear or should we regain our humanity?
Thats the thing I see from this, our ” normal” was not normal . We were and are not behaving like human beings are distanced from each other in the mind ,not loving each other and so still receptive to the media conglomerates mind conditioning garbage.
Yip absolutely Bob, thats it the belief in the lies/false made it a reality.
And the mind manipulators knew it, starting with China one of the more oppressed censored directorships(Lee) with the least resistance.
I know this has been said here before but I will say it anyway.
By this time it is rather apparent. The economy was tanking and the SOBS decided to pull the plug on it, and get one last big payout for themselves.
The fear and propaganda pandemic is merely a distraction from that. As to Bill Gates and Big Pharma etal, being the vultures that they are, they are cashing in on all the bribes they made over the years to their sleazy political operatives.
What we are faced with is ending the worldwide prison lockdown of humanity, getting rid of all these creeps and seeing to it that this never happens again. A daunting task, yes.
Heard that Firstbus drivers have been issued with masks but they are not allowed to wear them while driving. Also offshore workers are exempt from quarantine measures so you can go offshore, mix with another 50 guys on a North Sea platform for 3 weeks then come back onshore and contaminate family or friends. This Friday coming you are allowed to play golf and tennis. In the case of tennis one should avoid any sweating tennis players who may start coughing in the locker room.
My dad (77) was playing golf again about 10 days ago. He lives in England.
Are your assertions regarding golf and tennis those that apply in Scotland?
Not sure how rubbing shoulders with fellow workers in oil rigs can give you covid19?
John yes that’s in Scotland. Have worked in the oil industry for over 45 years and life on a platform is indeed a life in a confined space so any “deadly virus” would have a field day.
I have stood up at Safety Meetings on oil rigs and said everybody is getting flu and still working and service hands in control of the well are sick and don’t even get any sleep (no 12 hour shifts back then). And they talk about safety.
Whilst, I skim listened to this interview, I find it almost completely irrelevent to the real issues facing us all. So far as I am concerned, I came to the conclusion, based on the numerical evidence, that COVID was no more dangerous, than any other cold/like flu, long before the lockdown, when I myself was largely in self isolation, cos I probably had it. In my case, mild flu like symptoms, but nothing like as bad as the worst flu, I have had about 3 times in my life. So I rapidly came to the conclusion, that COVID, was just a smokescreen and a distraction, from something far more serious, that was going on. Whilst everyone I knew was terrified, about the virus, and I tried to joke with them, which did not go down at all well, I myself, was in reality, even more terrified than them, for reasons… Read more »
Tony, while I have not as yet made my mind up about exactly what has happened, one thing I am clear on is that the issue is fear. The issue is fear, so it’s actually not relevant whether the sars-cov-2 virus exists or not. Personally I think that it does exist, but it doesn’t matter anyway, because as I say, the virus is not the real issue here. As you say, while it is not the flu, it’s symptoms are similar to those of the flu in most respects. From what I can make out it is rather like a mild version of the flu for most people. I don’t hold with the view (popular here) that this is planned or this is some sort of malevolent scheme for world domination. (And if you do that’s fine, I’m not knocking you). I think that politicians are at fault. They are… Read more »
With one exception, I agree with the above John. The politicians were and are stupid, yes, but worse, I think they lost their nerve. Partly thanks to Neil Ferguson of course. They should have kept their nerve and asked around other experts. What is surprising is that the governing party became notorious for not trusting “experts” on things like Brexit, which makes it all the more surprising that they fell for that expert, especially as he had a bad track record. But even if they only half-believed Ferguson, surely common sense (and experience) should have told them that his more extreme predictions were likely to be highly exaggerated? But what they should have known (and surely did know?), is that a long lockdown would surely crash the economy, possibly irrevocably. Now they have the worst of both worlds: a crashing economy and the worst death rates in Europe, even with… Read more »
The politicians did not lose their nerve. They are paid hacks doing the bidding of the owners. Guess what? You and I not the owners.
WELCOME TO CORPORATE FASCIST PRISON LOCKDOWN WORLD
Don’t think it was planned? So what about the USA CARES (Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security) act which was signed into law March 2020, but entered Congress in Jan 2019?
You are entitled to your opinion.
I’m entitled to my opinion and I can also produce cold hard fact to back it up. From the horses mouth:-
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr748%22%5D%7D&s=2&r=1
Click the Public Law (03/27/2020) selector and see for yourself – Introduced in House (01/24/2019)
Mr Matthews, I’m not going to change my mind. Sorry.
Unfortunately no, neither you nor the UK (and world) public at large will be persuaded even by cold hard fact.
That’s the truely worrying thing.
I agree with you David. There was also “Event 201” taking place in New York in October 2019 – he Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.
They planned it all well in advance and didn’t even try to hide it from us.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
John Pretty, I agree with your first 3 paragraphs, and I know its hard on you too, but I think the reason you suddenly went extremely negative about Craig Murray, is because he banned you. That’s the initiation ceremony into the cult. You probably know more about this than me.
Tony
I am not aware of being banned by Murray.
I have criticised him strongly in the past, but I will not mention him again.
PS: Any discussion of Murray by me is now closed.
PPS: Tony, I think you’re a nice man. I always enjoy your pieces. One problem with any sort of online forum is that there is room for misunderstandings to occur. So I hope that I have not offended you at any time.
The issue with Murray is this. I was smeared by his moderator(s). Smeared. I was threatened with a ban, and them left in January.
The matter is one which caused considerable amount of distress.
I have on other threads stated my feelings about Murray, which I stand by and which I will not repeat again.
I now consider the matter closed and wish to move on. I would ask that you do not mention him again if you respond to my postings.
THANK YOU.
John, I think you are being extremely charitable describing politicians as merely being incompetent fools. They are a a cunning, venal , evil segment of humanity eager to sell their souls to the satanic forces that govern us.They recognise early in life that the voter is easily duped and enthusiastically join in his exploitation,The entire political system is so putrid that any decent, reasonably intelligent person would prefer to join the Mafia. Think of the choices available to an idealistic young American who might be contemplating entering politics — a party led by the unspeakable Trump or a party led by the visibly rotting Biden.And the masses are so brainwashed that I can’t see a single ray of hope. Just look at how Tulsi Gabbard fared in the recent Democratic primaries. An attractive young candidate who dared to express a little anti-war sentiment garnered less than 1% of the vote… Read more »
Yes, if anything they are worse in the States. If that’s possible!
You probably had the flu or a bad cold.
The USA is plainly in economic and moral collapse, a process felicitously hastened by the Trumpster. The problem, of course, is that the psychopaths who run Thanatopolis DC, and their Masters in Israel, will follow the Samson Option, to destroy the world if they can no longer dominate it, and suck the blood out of it.
I t would almost be worth it to get rid of them.
I’ll try this again as my first post seems to have disappeared. Here is a link to the latest Whitney Webb article on the promotion of vaccine development as the “solution” to our elite fabricated “problem.” https://www.globalresearch.ca/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-gene-editing-vaccines/5713568 One thing worth keeping in mind is that our glorious Western oligarchs don’t fall asleep at night worrying about Russian, Chinese or North Korean “hordes” coming to lead them to the gallows. No, instead they quite rightly worry about – “us” – the citizens of the nations they rule through unaccountable power, corruption, greed and through the monetary and propaganda fueled manipulation of our so called “democracies.” We are the only ones that can challenge or contain their rule so we are ipso facto – “the enemy.” It’s not ‘rocket science’ as they say. Sadly many fail to see, or to comprehend, this rather basic relational fact – and will quite gladly line… Read more »
And now in England, apparently, the garden centres are open again, so we have unlimited access to pitchforks….
🙂 And surely there is someone out there who can come up with plans for a “3-D printable” guillotine – I mean it’s 2020 for god’s sake!
I prefer the gibbet, at crossroads.
Her husband is Adrian Hill.
He is also a very interesting fellow
Adrian Vivian Sinton Hill (born 1958)[2] FMedSci FRCP is a vaccinologist, director of the Jenner Institute, Professor of Human Genetics at the University of Oxford, Consultant Physician and Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford.[3][4] Hill is jointly leading in research to produce a vaccine for COVID-19 along with Professor Andrew Pollard of the Oxford Vaccine Group.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_V._S._Hill
for the betterment of man kind type through a needle
Im afraid I did not much appreciate Gupta’s interview. The very first point is that science is not about truth. This was mistakenly thought to be the case in modern times until quantum theory, when this came to be recognized. Physicist Max Born, and since then, plenty have clearly stated this. Science is based on plenty of assumptions, then we are ourselves limited, both our senses and mind, and hence, as was well explained by Heisenberg, “man’s argument … cannot simply speak of nature ‘in itself’. Science always presupposes the existence of man and … we must become conscious that we are not merely observers but also actors on the stage of life.” Our theories, even those seemingly most satisfying, are ridden with weaknesses. Unpredictability and uncertainty are an integral part of a scientific approach. There is nothing we can do to get rid of that. We can try improving… Read more »
Remove the stick, you’ll find that you’ll be able to sit much more comfortably.
Biologists pretend to study Life, but what they are really studying are forms of life.
Life itself (with a capital L), cannot be studied, measured or quantified.
It can only be experienced.
Thank you hope. I think true scientists do not pretend to know what reality is; they realise that theories are based on assumptions and interpretations and hence their pretentions cannot go much further beyond being just useful. And they are: No one could ignore the extent to which this very imperfect and modest science when applied to the inert world has benefitted human existence on earth. When applied to the living and specially to human life, I think scientists ought to be very careful in applying theories based on the same views, because they shouldn’t afford approximations when life and death are the stakes. Common sense (which may be a vestige of our ability to grasp wholly what reality is) must be the guiding light that makes the final decision. The scientists who use common sense in their work are the humble ones: they are always ready to learn and… Read more »
The Propaganda is the Pandemic.
The Pandemic is Fear
The Fear Propaganda is the Pandemic. That also works.
Have you joined the Korona Kult of Immaculate Infection?
The pandemic presages pandemonium.
Game Theory teaches that when you wish to make a *powerful* move, you are forced to reveal critical information about your hand to your opponent. In other words, one can perceive crucial data from the ‘best’ propaganda outlets. Like a lot of you here, RT has been my daily go-to for ‘news’ (alongside the Daily Mail, which is the new dumping ground for UK governmental ‘truth’- which proves just how much reach that online outlet has over dying mouthpieces like the BBC). RT, PressTV etc, the pseudo foreign news services, were actually all begun in the UK as a MI6/BBC World Service project, and have never been more that a ‘different’ form of deep state media, but until recently their coverage was ‘interesting’. But for the period of the SARS2 false-flag, RT has been in-you-face appalling- revealing of course just how much Team Putin is part of the game. But… Read more »
She believes in the existence of viruses as external agents that cause disease and are transmissible from one human to another. That is reason enough to dismiss her as a genuine scientist since the evidence is overwhelming that germ theory is not just wrong.
Yes – can we please dispose the rhetoric that more funding to hospitals, NHS, and healthcare organizations would’ve “saved more lives.”
Evidence? I won’t hold my breath.
Everything in the mainstream fear and control narrative hinges on the virus theory being asserted and reinforced as fact – by every means – and in the same way climate was woven into everything – excepting germ theory goes back a lot further and most were born into it as their normal. I don’t thing becoming a ‘flat earthlike’ germ denier helps. Nor being right by pointing out wrongs. The invested identity in the protection (racket) is Too Big To Fail – in the general population – let alone Trillion dollar medical industrial complex. It really is a godless sense of being locked down into a weak or inadequate body that has to be protected from retribution masked as random genes or malign viruses or Chinese markets or anything anywhere ELSE. There is a weak and inadequate mind that is disconnected from the heart of wholeness in connected purpose as… Read more »
I disagree with what you say about the origin of the foreign English language news services having helped to set up two of them. I do think your comments about scientists are spot on, especially when you demolish the tendency to trust scientists just because they’re scientists. They ARE no different to the rest of the population, meaning that ….
“Most so-called scientists are utterly crap at every aspect of their job- as with most fields. You can automatically discard the opinions of 90% of them, especially those with ‘woke’ credentials. The remaining 10% are better, but the true alphas will be a tiny fraction of this group, and experience of psychology has proven the very best are usually obssessed people with a very narrow focus, and poor awareness outside this cone. “
I’m being dense, no doubt, but why “Team Blair”?
gotta smile
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264179614051700736
fuck off hancock
I just wanted to add something while I remeber it, the reason for 5G is that, if and when we are to be chipped, it maybe an pasive “screener”, etc, but to read that in real time they need an over lapping frequency admitter and the 4G was/is not that good and then we get the much better, of course from their side, screening with the 5G since it operates on much higher level and penetrate more than 4G and can thereby read the pasive chipp they have and will induce into our blood stream or just place it under out skin much easier. And dont forget this, China is and do have an high rate of vaccinated people, up to ranges of 95% of the population, like other regions like Italy and most of the problems with elderly I am certain comes from the previous vaccines regimes they had… Read more »
China was surprised by the Fort Detrick chimeric virus, but got on top of it quickly, and now has it under control because it has the superior political, economic and social system, and the Gods Upon the Earth in the West CANNOT stand that.
More news from the nodemic: This is from the comments section of Japan Today. Three of the Tokyo prefectures are still under lockdown. Today 01:53 pm JST 23/05/2020 But despite the low testing and obviously inaccurate numbers of cases one thing stands out that has not been reported as widely as the lack of testing. That is that the number or deaths (from all causes) during the first 4 months of this year have not gone up despite all predictions from all the so-called expert especially those from the west. How on earth can you come to that conclusion…. your own post you say, correctly, that little testing has been DONE. So there is no way to know if deaths are happening to the virus or not! The only way we can get an idea is to compare deaths in 2020 to those prior to 2020, even then if there… Read more »
I’ve already had a holiday cancelled and no doubt many other have had too – yet, according to the guardian Boris is off on another break: “Why should the prime minister explain anything to anyone during the worst health crisis in 100 years? It was a nice afternoon, he was about to go on a 10-day Whitsun break with Carrie, Dilyn the dog and some baby that had mysteriously appeared in Downing Street, and he could do without the hassle. And it had been a whole two months since he’d taken 10 days off right at the beginning of the pandemic. In any case, he’d already had coronavirus, so he was just fine.” It is very clear that the present government have very different rules to the rest of the population – the scam continues and the british people are mostly still asleep – which is probably why the lockup… Read more »
bob are you really citing this https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/21/matt-hancock-is-not-ok-someone-really-ought-to-furlough-him as a factual source?
Steve – I actually found this somewhere on a twitter thread, and yes i know, it’s the guardian, but i’m pissed off not being in Sorrento and the Amalfi coast and Positano now -this is not academic proof! – i need a holiday – get the picture?
Good video , however too little too late , as the great human herd in now in full stampede mode and will race on until exhaustion overcomes their fear. As the leaders of this event take full advantage.
Our honourable leaders, highly educated medical experts and thoroughly objective media are way too far up their own egoistic orifices to backtrack, partake of humble pie, or admit they fucked up.
So down the shit chute we all go.
WHEN SOCK PUPPETS RULED THE WORLD
Yes it is I, the all powerful and all knowing, BLAIRIGULA, emperor of all I survey. Now kneel down and grovel before me. Kiss the ring on my pinky toe… and don’t forget to leave a five spot on the way out.
Now what we need is contact tracing to find Patient Zero of the psychopathogen that infected all the world’s leaders. Sieges to starve a territory into submission were a military tactic until Feb 2020, when sieges suddenly became a public health technique. Where did it come from? How did nearly all leaders get infected INSTANTLY? Blackmail? Bribes? Threats of assassination? Or have they all been working in synchrony for many decades?
time line
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/a-timeline-pandemic-and-erosion-of-freedoms-have-been-decades-in-the-making/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=dfb3488e-b7b2-4c78-94fb-6ad6adb2f25e&fbclid=IwAR17Hif6fJepUatTx0kKZ80HlrzP6bubh13h7CbfgrXNFMdWeuH5ry1qENU
more important would be why the masses went for refusing to inform themselves/panic, rather than getting the available info/thinking.
It would seem that most people would sooner be beaten, robbed, chained to a stake and have their eyes poked out than to have to take the time to actually think about something – let alone to question the motives of the authority figures they ascribe so much worldly wisdom to. The actions of the “herd” give the lie to the notion of herd immunity – at least so far as ruling class schemes are concerned. They might develop an immunity to a virus; but never to a plan to enslave them.
“Most people would rather die sooner than think—and they do.”
Ascribed to one Sheldon in 1913 and later to Bertrand Russell.
Mind capture operates such that we think we are thinking – but we are not. We think we are conscious but we are not. Habits run a mind set in its own pattern of acquired adaptation and the forces that set it up, maintain it as an auto-defence. A mask cannot become who we are, but we can so invest in a masking persona as to become blind to anything BUT what its filters tell us or rather comply us by reaction to think we made a choice when it was a default that effectively made us. This is testable. Look at yourself. Not judge yourself. But watch the thoughts the emotions the reactions and watch how they are mostly available in the moment you recognise you were lost in identifying in them, and even this is then judged as a way to resume ‘normal service’. The disturbance of our… Read more »
Howard, I agree with every word except one. I would simply replace “enslave” with “kill”.