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8 Simple Steps To End The Lockdown: Say Yes, Not No

Kevin Smith & Lesley Buckley

To those paying attention, the evidence about Covid-19 and the lockdown response is clear. We’ve been sold a pup.

The UK Government itself has confirmed several times that the virus is not serious to the majority of people who catch it. The lockdown was a panic-driven overreaction.

The facts and figures of what is known about Covid-19 are not really much disputed. More, it’s a question of how those facts translate into ways to deal with the threat. My contention is that anyone looking at the facts, figures, and basic science cannot possibly agree that the response to the crisis is appropriate to the risk and proportionate in terms of wider implications.

For example, in the UK the infection rate has receded, there’s been no evidence of a link between infection rates and social distancing, lockdown, and the wearing of masks It’s all been guesswork.

Yet the UK government has just declared it mandatory for the public to wear masks on public transport from 15 June 2020. That makes no sense whatsoever. Even the World Health Organisation (WHO), from which the government cherry-pick their guidance to reinforce ‘trust the experts’ narratives, for months advised that it was not necessary to wear masks. The WHO curiously U-turned on this in recent days.

So far, most of the public aren’t picking up on these anomalies, or at least when they do, it doesn’t particularly register with them, perhaps because of the continued media avalanche of misinformation, distraction, and scaremongering.

If people are told by the media that social distancing works, they seem to accept it, even if a brief reflection would make them realise there’s no evidence that lockdown translates into lower infection rates, particularly when there are so many other factors and unknowns in play.

So, it’s not really about going over the facts and figures or science anymore. It’s about merely getting the obvious conclusions, so far largely kept from the public, out there.

Therefore, how do we achieve this and get out of this lockdown mess to begin repairing the terrible damage caused to date?

Just the other day, Professor Ferguson, whose forecasts were central to the lockdown decision, basically admitted that lockdown made no difference when it came to containing Covid-19.

Great, so we can go back to normal?

Unfortunately, this huge admission only made it to the middle pages of a few newspaper publications. The rest of the media missed the story and continued with their usual brain-dead output.

But, perhaps we can get the government to admit they acted upon wrong advice and the lockdown was a mistake?

Well, hold on there. No one likes to admit they’re wrong, particularly when the errors are huge and so stupid beyond belief. That’s never going to happen voluntarily, at least without some encouragement or a sweetener.

Perhaps, however, there’s a chance. The proposal below is simple and quick. It gets us out of lockdown without too much recrimination. And the idea may have further appeal to the government because it will give them a sense of ultimate power (we know they love that). Hopefully it will mean that we can all move forward – back to the old normal.

SYNN (Say Yes, Not No)

First, for background, I used to work for a company which was customer-facing and focused on customer service with a unique passion and pragmatism. The motto was something like “the customer is right, even when they are wrong”. As a complaints manager, there were sometimes difficult cases to resolve.

The company, however, began a new initiative. It was called SYNN (Say Yes, Not No), where we were encouraged to be even more flexible to resolve difficulties and complaints.

The complaint managers were issued with SYNN cards to carry around to remind them. These cards gave us the authority and final say to resolve any difficulty or complaint in the way that we decided. Not even the managing director could overrule us (unless we were offering his chauffeur-driven car as compensation to a customer).

Before this initiative, I felt we were generally good at resolving complaints, but these cards were great because there often was an issue that we knew would take time to resolve. So, if we couldn’t initially resolve the matter, we could say, what the hell, and give the customer what they wanted.

I thought this was a great initiative even if it meant in some cases that we were encouraging the wrong behaviour or sometimes went against a principle.

SYNN was our licence to be powerful and pragmatic, and it was great for avoiding drawn-out confrontations and moving on quickly.

The Proposal

The idea is to arrange for members of the UK government to be issued smart-looking SYNN cards.

Then Boris Johnson and government ministers armed with these cards should do a live TV press conference where the following questions would be put to them:

  1. Were the initial projections of infection and mortality for Covid-19 hopelessly wrong?
  2. Therefore, was the blanket lockdown unnecessary given any limited adverse impact the virus would have had without it?
  3. Do you agree that the policy of moving the sick, elderly, and vulnerable to care homes, while locking up low risk groups and the healthy, was wrong?
  4. Is it true that the “trust the science” narrative throughout was not based on science but on faulty models and guesswork?
  5. Do you agree that rather than act on fear and panic, it would have been wise to implement specific but limited measures, based broadly on the Sweden model?
  6. Do you agree, as some scientists have said (and quite frankly is common sense), that any such measures should have been directed towards “close and prolonged contact” and “at risk groups” rather than for shoppers, walking in parks, and blanket social distancing — and this was an assessment which should have been carried out at the outset?
  7. Do you agree that the whole thing has been a complete fiasco from start to finish and you and the media have instilled unnecessary fear and panic to the public and utterly dumbed down any sensible discussion — and have not focused on the real question – i.e is lockdown necessary and proportionate?
  8. Finally, can we now lift lockdown, as well as apply and keep under review some limited and targeted precautions (vulnerable groups, close contact risks) in agreement with a panel of real experts?

Yes?

Well, that’s sorted then. The government can pretend that it was just a small mistake like Swine Flu, BSE (Mad Cow Disease), Bird Flu, Iraq, and Libya.

The British people are awfully decent and understanding and will just be grateful to move on with their lives.

Everyone a happy bunny.

Originally published by One World Press

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Greg
Greg
Jun 17, 2020 2:52 PM

The lockdown manifestly wasn’t a panic driven overreaction: it was the intention from day one to facilitate the great reset by trashing the UK economy. Johnson always seems to get a fools pardon but he is absolutely wedded to Cummings/Gates population control agenda, what used to be called eugenics, which is why he has rolled out the red carpet to Gates. Old Stanley Johnson has written four books on population control and Johnson has made pointed comments about survival of the fittest – risible though the notion is that he got where he is now on merit.

ariel
ariel
Jun 17, 2020 12:39 PM

Whaddya mean? Don’t you get it? The fakedemic/PLAN demic is exactly what it says on the tin. The LOCKDOWN and social/psychological manipulation is what it is all about. ‘The Great Plan.’ Our LEADERS????? I wish I could laugh (snort of derision) Neil HYPOCRITE Fergusson is a congenital lying tool in the grip of the supra-governmentalists. It’s ALL DELIBERATE.

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Jun 15, 2020 3:08 PM

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Jun 17, 2020 8:56 AM
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tonyopmoc
Jun 15, 2020 2:33 AM

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Doly Garcia
Doly Garcia
Jun 14, 2020 6:58 PM

“there’s been no evidence of a link between infection rates and social distancing, lockdown, and the wearing of masks”   There is in fact so much evidence that I don’t doubt you could argue there is no evidence the sky is blue. When you look at countries, lockdowns and social distancing reduced infection rates in every case. In countries that wear masks, the rate of infection is reduced.   In order to say “there is no evidence”, the only way is to lie to yourself and/or others.   And to answer your question about Sweden:   “Do you agree that rather than act on fear and panic, it would have been wise to implement specific but limited measures, based broadly on the Sweden model?”   Probably not, since Sweden had more deaths per million and also a raging care home problem, much as the UK. Plus, their economy still suffered… Read more »

Country Girl
Country Girl
Jun 14, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

You are talking nonsense – you have fallen for the main-stream media lies. The above article is spot on. Where did you obtain you info. about AZ, TX, FL and CA from? Are you there or reading the main-stream media? I am British but was in AZ for my lockdown (thank goodness I wasn’t in the UK at the time as the rules were nightmarish, the police out of order and a dysfunctional govt. led by a buffoon who lies, cannot organise his own life, is inarticulate and cannot make a decision about anything, was not to be trusted, never mind obeyed.) The lockdown we had in AZ would horrify a person like you who has swallowed the false narrative. We left our home and went on the holiday we had booked in another part of AZ for 2 weeks. We were allowed to drive wherever we wanted in AZ… Read more »

Solla Sollew
Solla Sollew
Jun 14, 2020 11:10 PM
Reply to  Country Girl

This is the real danger, people honestly believe the nonsense being touted as fact by mainstream media. You have to ask do we really live in the information age when the popular opinion is swept up by the propaganda arm of the government (lame stream media)

John
John
Jun 15, 2020 12:24 AM
Reply to  Country Girl

I don’t call it News anymore. It’s candid camera. If you listen to the “news” as a comedy show it’s quite hysterical. I have had quite a good chuckle every morning for at least the last 10 years now.

Novicurious
Novicurious
Jun 14, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

“there is in fact so much evidence blah blah blah”. Ok, where is it?

John
John
Jun 15, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

Wow, you actually are mentally impaired. I hope you are being looked after properly.

AMR
AMR
Jun 15, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

Wow, that is a strange comment. It goes against all statistics and data. I think you also don’t understand the cost in human lives and human suffering of lockdown itself. And next time, if you say ‘there is so much evidence’ please provide detailed links to reputable sources. I certainly haven’t found one iota. Do share.

Amid
Amid
Jun 17, 2020 5:22 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

What are you talking about? Clearly you are delusional and a danger to yourself and others around you.
Please show me the evidence that your ramblings are based on as I could do with a laugh in the midst of this pantomime thats being fueled by ignorant brain dead morons like yourself.

Amid
Amid
Jun 17, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

 

Amid
Amid
Jun 17, 2020 5:30 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

What a load of nonsense you talk. Its because ignorant people like you that this pantomime is continuing.

Gary Thornley
Gary Thornley
Jun 17, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  Doly Garcia

Are you on drugs?? Why can’t you see what’s happening.
Wake up you tw&t and do some self research.
Get back to work.

Paul
Paul
Jun 14, 2020 4:18 PM

Great questions but apart from the minority no one in authority or in MSM will ever ask these questions. I’m sure the government can hardly believe how easy it is to brainwash and control people. They are laughing at us. What this scam has shown me is that the masses willingly accept whatever the government and the bbc tell them. No questions asked. The age of rational and critical thinking is over. The majority have no idea how to think for themselves. It probably hurts. We’ve moved into a new age of stupidity. The ‘science’ has been a fiasco and it’s obvious they make it up as they go along and they too cannot believe how easy it is to influence people. It’s unbelievable the government would lock down and destroy the health and economy of the country based on a computer model and especially from Ferguson with a proven… Read more »

richard
richard
Jun 14, 2020 9:20 PM
Reply to  Paul

Yes…, Ferguson has been kept on BECAUSE of his track record not in spite of it. He pulls stuff out of his arse according to what the deep-state wants. They keep him in a cupboard and use him whenever it suits. But now his nonsense has been highlighted due to info on the internet and so this time the gov has had to distance themselves from him.

Basher
Basher
Jun 15, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  richard

It wouldn’t surprise me if Ferguson has some kind of condition, aspergers or something, and he can’t help himself being used. It happens time and time again. I watched him taking part in a ‘zoom’ interview with House of Lords and he gave answers, talking with his eyes closed – seemed bizarre.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 16, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Basher

I noticed that. It said to me that he didn’t himself believe what he was saying.

AMR
AMR
Jun 15, 2020 4:29 PM
Reply to  richard

Exactly! And he’s so easy for them to make into the fall guy if it goes wrong. He’s done it repeatedly since Swine flu, foot & mouth etc etc, but this time there have been more questions. Nobody really knows about the Cumbrian farmers who lost everything, committed suicide, were locked down in their homes and made to keep piles of rotting carcasses in front of their houses – based on Ferguson’s projections. If you don’t know it, check out the UK Column documentary Slaughtered on Suspicion: https://www.ukcolumn.org/

Stregs
Stregs
Jun 21, 2020 5:04 AM
Reply to  richard

Agree, Ferguson is the u.k equivalent of Al Bagdadi, gets taken out of the cupboard whenever they need to increase fear levels, be it terrorists or viruses.

Jack
Jack
Jun 14, 2020 2:22 PM

There is the intriguing possibility that exposure to the Euro-American strain of Covid-19 may endow resistance to the more dangerous Wuhan strain. That this may indeed be the case is suggested by the large number of people that appear to be naturally resistant to the virus. These people being resistant due to their previous exposure to the Euro-American strain.
 
Quote from: http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1184

Terry martin
Terry martin
Jun 14, 2020 10:07 AM

When you start a sentence with the British government says, and then follow it up with WHO backtracking, you have lost any possible thread. Governments say what they need to say and WHO has just been threatened with whatever trump is going to throw at them

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 14, 2020 2:01 PM
Reply to  Terry martin

I find this argument very confusing. Why would Trump threatening to stop funding the World Health Organisation cause it to reverse itself on mask wearing by the general public?

T Brites
T Brites
Jun 13, 2020 11:28 PM

The British people are awfully decent and understanding and will just be grateful to move on with their lives.

Everyone a happy bunny.

 
You can replace “British” for any country in the world… and also “people” for “sheeple”!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 13, 2020 11:15 PM

Look up The Wave (2008, 1981) Youse Vookeren has been told

Ort
Ort
Jun 13, 2020 10:34 PM

Do you not know that it is written that the wages of SYNN is death?

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Jun 13, 2020 8:49 PM

A CASH COW   Government officials will never say YES to any of those eight questions because the ruling class has not finished milking the COVID-19 cash cow. In January the “usual suspects” decided to manufacture a COVID-19 crisis and use it to economically restructure the US economy. They knew a lockdown would cause economic devastation to the most vulnerable, but still cleverly managed will the help of congress to transfer trillions into their already hefty coffers. Tech giants and the medical industrial complex seized the moment to secure billions.    U.S. billionaires’ wealth has grown by $565 billion — or 19.5 percent — since March 18, when the majority of the nation shut down to slow the spread of the virus according to Inequality.org. The report is based on Forbes data for America’s more than 600 billionaires.   Why stop now, why not try for a second wave or wait until another new and strange coronavirus mysteriously surfaces. Medical panic and killer… Read more »

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 8:34 PM

Is this article suppose to make people think it was a mistake not the plan for NWO out of the closet one world govt ?
Or to believe in democracy?
Say “yes” to ignorance and tyranny?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 8:08 PM

“December 18, 2019
The Massachusetts Institute of Technology engineers have developed a way to store medical information under the skin, using a quantum dot dye that is delivered,
along with a vaccine, by a microneedle patch. The dye, which is invisible to the naked eye, can be read later using a specially adapted smartphone.”
 
http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
 
It seems the dye they will use is called Luciferase, from the Latin word lucifer – meaning lightbringer – it reacts to light, or ‘illumination’.
 
You will never need to worry again about having your bank card lost; just wave your hand mark at the shop terminal to buy your ‘essentials.’

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 8:37 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Without cash with a digital currency you as a non essential will not be buying or getting any bank to buy essentials.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 9:07 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

That is their plan I’m sure.
Not mere money, not even power, but ABSOLUTE CONTROL over the world population.

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 9:46 PM
Reply to  breweriana

We once had a German Shepherd nick named Lucifer, she was the most stubborn free willed being I have ever known in my entire life, she was unstoppable if she decided she wanted to do something, thankfully she was the friendliest thing on four legs, it took an awful lot to provoked her, but once she was pissed with something you were in trouble.

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 10:18 PM
Reply to  Objective

Broke my heart the day she died & i never really recovered from it!

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Jun 14, 2020 12:18 AM
Reply to  breweriana

Luifer – also means The Devil.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jun 13, 2020 7:50 PM

Despite the fact that it is nice today, and in many ways I am blessed, despite some personal tragedies, which I will not write about, I am having a bad day, despite working for an hour or two, digging in my back garden to grow more food.   The news is not good. Almost all my friends are still completely brainwashed. They still believe the official story, to such an extent there is almost no point whatsoever in trying to communicate with them.   Very few of them actually want to go back to work.   By the time they want to, if ever, their jobs will have gone.   They do not realise. They haven’t got a clue. They think it is O.K. now, and it has always been reasonably O.K.. Very few if any of them have ever gone hungry.   Sure they are doing fine now, most… Read more »

Shruti
Shruti
Jun 13, 2020 10:24 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

My friends are brainwashed, too. Although, I had a glimmer of hope when one of them was perplexed about his inability to breathe while wearing a mask in 75 F + high humidity weather. My tomatoes are also maturing nicely in the garden area of our apartment complex. I have bought many seedlings, amended the poor soil, and water twice a day dragging buckets from the third floor apartment because the irrigation is broken. I was late planting potatoes, but even those are looking strong now! However, I heard rumors that someone was stealing the fruit from other people’s plots. I was having a conversation about this with a guy who grows stuff in the neighboring plot, and this confused young man thought that it was completely OK for people to take fruits from other people’s plots because this was a “community garden, after all”. I guess he thinks whatever… Read more »

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 14, 2020 2:40 AM
Reply to  Shruti

LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT

Shruti
Shruti
Jun 14, 2020 4:18 AM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

That might trigger a revolution… I do want my tomatoes to grow up safe and sound.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Jun 13, 2020 7:44 PM

Anyone who thinks that the global lockdown and the bludgeoning of the world’s economy was an honest mistake needs a brain transplant.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Jun 13, 2020 9:06 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

that would be the Government – et al…..but as they rely on the People to give them a clean bill of health – I dont imagine them being committed to the mental institutuion any time soon…but what am I thinking, the whole blue marbles a laughing academy. 
 
 

John
John
Jun 15, 2020 12:26 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Yes but where do you find an intelligent replacement brain? Very rare

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 13, 2020 7:32 PM

Simon Dolan poses a very pertinent question here. A must watch video to remind ourselves of what we were led to believe was going to happen:
 
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1271375613056729089
 
 

Tony
Tony
Jun 13, 2020 7:13 PM

Excellent mainstream op-ed on RT, which has been pretty conservative on the subject up to now. Hopefully we’ll see a bit more of this stuff creeping into the msm.
 
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/491735-msm-predict-covid19-collapse-lie/

bob
bob
Jun 13, 2020 7:02 PM

a very helpful video from the police in these difficult times:
 
https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1271691641347289089

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 6:49 PM

The Covid19 psyop wasn’t a “mistake or a pup” it was a treacherous lie.
No new deadly virus and no new disease.
1) Do you agree you knew you were lying .

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

the flu is neither a disease or a virus. dr morse explains it is detox n improves health.

John
John
Jun 15, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  BDBinc

Agreed but I still don’t think the point of all this is clear yet? 2nd Wave maybe except this time it’s a real pandemic?

bob
bob
Jun 13, 2020 6:39 PM

it’s Expose bill gates day today – this is a good listen
 
https://soundcloud.com/21wire/bill-gates-knows-all-about-viruses

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Jun 13, 2020 6:21 PM

Slightly off topic, but could someone give me an update on Sweden. I wrote a long list of questions (which I phrased respectfully) about COVID, the response, and the collateral results to my newspaper and all levels of government. The letter I received from the provincial government was personal (a big plus?) though it answered none of the questions.
 
This phrase was a large part of the rationale for policy: “Dr. Henry [public health officer] has spoken many times about the unlikelihood of community (herd) immunity, as Sweden’s experiment has so tragically shown.”
 
What tragic consequences?

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Jun 13, 2020 6:23 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

P.S. Where can I find accurate information about Sweden – age distribution, percent care home deaths, actual measures taken, etc., etc.?

David Matthews
David Matthews
Jun 13, 2020 7:36 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

Hi Rob Slane did a nice article comparing UK reported deaths with those of Swden – you may find it helpful:-
 
http://www.theblogmire.com/calling-the-government-to-account-for-its-woeful-handling-of-this-crisis/

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Jun 14, 2020 1:04 AM
Reply to  David Matthews

Thanks. Do you – or does anyone – know if there is anything very recent? When I go to mainstream sites to get info, there are three pages of criticism of Sweden with an upsurge in incidence in the last few days.
 
I’m guessing the down vote was because my neutral request seemed to be that of an undecided newby. I’m nothing of the sort. I want to argue the use of the word “tragic” to describe the Swedish outcome when replying to my provincial government, but honestly, of course. This denigration of Sweden is always used to justify anti-social distancing, masks, mass unemployment, all collateral damage. And they always compare it only to Norway.

Joe Dirt
Joe Dirt
Jun 14, 2020 3:12 AM
Reply to  nondimenticare

I think you’ll find this page to be just what you’re looking for: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
 
It has been updated several times over the past few months, and is now quite lengthy. You can do a “control+f” to find the bits about Sweden, although I highly recommend reading the entire thing.

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Jun 14, 2020 3:43 AM
Reply to  Joe Dirt

Thanks!

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

herd immunity is when a community learns real health eg. detox with fruit n salad. sweden will have still been exposed to much of the fear ie. induction into disease states. healthy thoughts r needed like people will learn life in paradise.

John
John
Jun 15, 2020 12:28 AM
Reply to  nondimenticare

They drank more coffee and ate more croissants than the rest of Europe. Tragic

bob
bob
Jun 13, 2020 6:08 PM

Contrary to the appeasement offered in this article, here is an alternative view
 
http://www.frombehindenemylines.org.uk/2020/06/building-the-coronahoax-charge-sheet-reckoning-culpability-for-the-deliberate-inflation-of-covid-19-death/
 
what has/is happening in the uk can only be described as genocide. Those responsible must be held to account – that will be the new normal

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 13, 2020 6:50 PM
Reply to  bob

Kill one person, get done for murder…kill 40000 get a knighthood.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 6:06 PM

Another pointless article.
There is no ‘virus.’
There will be a ‘2nd wave’ to cancel Christmas, however.
Prepare.
This one will be the real thing.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 6:50 PM
Reply to  breweriana

What real thing? Do you mean a deadly vaccine?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 7:21 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Mr. Gates and nanotechnology.
 
The aim is to create a new world currency.
Anyone wanting to use it will need to be ‘vaccinated’ with an ID chip.
 
In 1988 the Economist magazine (part owned by the Rothschild family) published on its cover a phoenix with a gold coin rising from the burning ashes of the currencies; the title was “Get ready for a world currency“. We are now over 30 years from its publication. 
 
China hired a British company, Chetwoods who plan to build the new twin towers called the Phoenix project in the capital of China’s Hubei province.
 
Hubei’s capital is Wuhan, where the ‘virus’ is supposed to have started. 
 
“And the meek geek shall inherit the Earth.”
 

Elrin
Elrin
Jun 13, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Agree with it being another pointless article letting off the politicians as imbeciles rather than conspirators. What makes you so sure of a deadly second wave as a Christmas present?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 7:29 PM
Reply to  Elrin

They successfully cancelled Easter; they will do the same with Christmas, with the advantage they can blame brexit as well as the ‘virus.’
Late December, is my guess.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  breweriana

i think 2nd wave is planned 4 the 15th i.e 2 days time. offline communication is where they dont know what is happening. printer n photocopier r good not fb. phone letter public meetings … party.

gordon
gordon
Jun 13, 2020 6:04 PM

 
the crown virus is something that could be sniffed at and i do.
you see pasteur louis was a liar cheat a killer and a thief a friend of the bankers.
 
 
stick your germ theory up your trillion dollar pharma farma
 
 
 
vit c is needed vital that is all that matters
 
taking the fresh air getting the uv rays to penetrate your eyes and skin for vitamin d production
 
 
granny grandad if you live stay away from that doctor
dr harold shipman was not a fluke he is normalcy
your doctor is not your friend
 
if you are lonely find a shop dummy or a cat or dog to talk to you will be much safer and way more healthy and certainly not big pharma dead
 
 
 
 
 
Medical Hypotheses, 7:1359-1376, 1981 VITAMIN C, TITRATING TO BOWEL TOLERANCE, ANASCORBEMIA, AND ACUTEINDUCED SCURVY
 
https://vitamincfoundation.org/pdfs/Vitamin_C_Dosage_in_Disease.pdf

yorkshirelad
yorkshirelad
Jun 13, 2020 5:58 PM

The government has screwed up and has to go along with the nightmare they started. Otherwise they have to admit to having made a mistake and then what would happen…..lawsuits for the rest of the century!   Sorry folks but years of visiting conspiracy sites shows me that conspiracies do not exist since they cannot be maintained by groups of people unless it’s less than 3! Someone always blabs. As for some high level cooperation between mega interests all illuminati style is just BS. Same problem the secretive organisation required is immense and impossible. Not only that but they are pretty incompetent at it! NAH. This is a classic cock-up where they can’t work out how to get out of it. Hence the illogical imposition of more stringent controls making it look like they know what they are doing.   It’s up to joe public to get out of it.… Read more »

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 6:07 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

Sorry folks but years of visiting conspiracy sites shows me that conspiracies do not exist since they cannot be maintained by groups of people unless it’s less than 3!

 
How about maintained by 1 machine-learning algorithm? 3 people setting policy using mathematical models = mass effect.
 
I’m sure Hitler invoked policy as experiment, not knowing its outcome.
 
 

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 14, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

I’m sure Hitler invoked policy as experiment, not knowing its outcome.

Aktion T4 is an obvious example.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 6:39 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

people have blabed. it is 100% fraud same like every other outbreak. the last thing needed is more masks.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 13, 2020 6:46 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

Why would ‘they’ blab? They have no need to, that is why.
Everything is left in plain sight. If you look, everything is already put there for you to see and read. No need to go to ‘conspiracy’ sites (whatever they are).

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 13, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

“conspiracies do not exist since they cannot be maintained by groups of people unless it’s less than 3″…
You must wear a double layer tinfoil hat as what you propose is that thing called a theory of conspiracy theory…

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 13, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

don’t you government disinfo shills get tired of repeating the same old BS, over and over again, year after year, decade after decade?

kevin
kevin
Jun 13, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

Conspiracies don’t exist? Please contact me, I have a bridge for sale.

David Matthews
David Matthews
Jun 13, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

It’s a conspiracy not a cock up and hiding that is not a massive problem; in fact they don’t bother to hide it:-
 
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748
 
Instead of hiding it they just get the MSM to broadcast weeks and weeks of 24/7 fear and lies and that’s what gets attention.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jun 13, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

”Sorry folks but years of visiting conspiracy sites shows me that conspiracies do not exist since they cannot be maintained by groups of people unless it’s less than 3! Someone always blabs. ”   Far be it from me to cast aspersions on such an in depth critique. However, as you have a reasonable grasp of the dictionary definition of ‘conspiracy’ i have to remind you that all anti-conspiracy theorists are of a mind that Governments, regardless of party or country, lie their way into power then fail to deliver on promises made earlier.These governments seldom have 3 or less in their number.If these agree upon a dishonest strategy to sell themselves or to sell you snake oil, they have conspired to deceive for personal gain or to deceive the people they are supposed to be transparent with.    ”NAH. This is a classic cock-up where they can’t work out… Read more »

Germs Bond
Germs Bond
Jun 14, 2020 2:31 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Spot on, Jura

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 14, 2020 9:37 AM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

‘Yorkshire folk’
“They say what they like, and they like what they say.”
THICK, in other words.

Marcelo de Melo
Marcelo de Melo
Jun 13, 2020 5:20 PM

With all this madness going on, my main question is why people don’t seem to react to any debunk of the official narrative. It seems like every one is in a slumber, sort of hypnosis. To me this psychological experiment is to gather information on how we behave in lockdown and profile the global population behavior to better manipulate us from now on. They are probably laughing with all ludicrous guidelines to fight this phony virus. That, plus mandatory vaccination. Here in Brazil we are living the worst of the pandemic and it doesn’t seem to wear down and I believe it is due to Brazilians broad acceptance of vaccines. We long desperately for them to come and will take very fast and without question.
Thanks for the article and thanks to OffGuardiam.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 13, 2020 6:11 PM

“THE PANDEMIC” is THE PROPAGANDA. The actual name for the disease is THE BIG LIE. The corporate fascist oligarch mobster psychopaths have expanded upon the “Josef Goebbels playbook.”
 
Do not buy into the mass hysteria panic frenzy.
 
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y-yH_Qyipc
 

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 13, 2020 7:13 PM

Last night’s TV News in the UK (can’t recall if it was BBC or Sky News) had a short feature about a particular suburb ‘hardest hit’ by the ‘virus’. They featured one family (not sure how the, presumably, Brazilian film crew found themselves outside a family home when an elderly resident ‘with Covid19’ was being transported by ambulance from the house, but they did).   The film footage then showed an elderly man (may even have purportedly been the man taken away from the house but I’m not sure about that) being removed from an ambulance and taken on a stretcher into hospital. We were certainly led to believe this was one of the many Covid19 patients being transported to the hospital all day long. The main thing that struck me though as extremely implausible was that the man on the stretcher had a close fitting standard blue cloth face… Read more »

Marcelo de Melo
Marcelo de Melo
Jun 13, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

My point exactly . All staged. Feels like we are in a Netflix weird future science-fiction series… Only this is real. Very disturbing .

PWL
PWL
Jun 13, 2020 4:49 PM

Yes. The snakeoil has been detected. The tar and feathering and the riding ’em out of town on a rail has been due a long time since.
http://www.frombehindenemylines.org.uk/2020/06/building-the-coronahoax-charge-sheet-reckoning-culpability-for-the-deliberate-inflation-of-covid-19-death/

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 4:05 PM

Great article but doesn’t deal with the inertia of governments/multinational corporations policy’s , the egos of their employees who enforce these rules , or the profiteering being taken advantage of globally by this panic. A “good crisis” that must continue to be milked , until it peters out and or the next good crisis can be spun up.

jen
jen
Jun 13, 2020 4:55 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

I’m not sure I understand why the general view here is that lockdown is somehow advantageous to governments and profiteers (in UK and globally. Maybe I’m naive but hasn’t locking down totally wrecked capitalism. If the economy’s fucked isn’t capitalism fucked?   I would have thought governments and very powerful economic institutions around the world, would have wanted anything but a lockdown eg. now governments have to pay welfare to thousands/millions of unemployed etc, businesses of all sizes have tanked etc.. What advantage is there for powers that be in this?   I know some people here believe its advantageous to Bill Gates’ economic hegemony etc.. because of the imminent vaccine etc but I’m not convinced that governments globally – ranging from reasonably democratic to totalitarian – are thrilled about lockdown being advantageous. I’m imagining they’re thinking how to get out of this very deep hole without losing power.  … Read more »

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 5:07 PM
Reply to  jen

You are right – it is destructive to capitalism. This is neo-marxist policy. Technocrats don’t need the old economy. They can now “print” bitcoins and use drones to deliver goods without our old paper money, retail economy. Tearing down the old infrastructure allows for a new power structure.
 
Why is this is a problem? We don’t want neo-marxist Bolshevik concentration camp gulags, invasion of privacy through new Big Brother surveillance, fake science covid killswitch programs, and end of bill of rights anarchy, dictatorships, and dehumanizing performance arts, sports activity, and privatized healthcare.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 13, 2020 6:26 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

neo-marxist policy
 
sure, it’s well known that neoliberal billionaires are the most ardent supporters of marxism, especially neo-marxism, whatever that is.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 6:59 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

Communism has always been an interim government. Communism is transition to newer models of capitalism.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 7:24 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

I should say newer models of capitalism or despots.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 8:50 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

You realized you have just destroyed your own argument to Jen?

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 10:24 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

No. The transition is never good. Lenin to Stalin, Mao, Castro – at least we had a 3 headed federal government. Key word now is “had.”

jen
jen
Jun 14, 2020 6:01 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

I wasn’t arguing so much as enquiring.
 
I’ll consider the opinion about the total control through bitcoin, drone economy, but not sure about the neo marxist thing(maybe I’m not understanding how a shift to marxism is advantageous to capitalist hegemony even if -as people here say – capitalism’s falling apart). I just can’t see all the oligarchs, global governments economic powerhouses etc. co-ordinating in a dark room saying “Lockdown.. Brilliant.. let’s milk this”.
 
You may think I’m hopelessly naive and trust governments, power monopolies etc, unquestioningly. I don’t. But I think what some here are suggesting is speculative not actual.
 
Again, I’m just discussing here. I know I have more to learn and may one day agree with you (or disagree even more). But as yet, I’m still skeptical.

Elrin
Elrin
Jun 14, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  jen

I think the key is centralisation of the economy. They don’t mind taking a hit because they will emerge into a market place devoid of competition from smal to medium businesses.

jen
jen
Jun 14, 2020 5:43 AM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

Really? How does that work for their interests? Why would marxism give them more control than capitalism?

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 14, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  jen

one imagines that obvious sarcasm should be obvious to everyone, but then one is proven wrong, over and over again.

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  jen
  • Small business fucked
  • self employed fucked
  • multi national corporations shares up
  • oligarchs rubbing their hands together!
  • political elite one step closer to what they always wanted, total control!

 
Don’t you get it? They’d already fucked up the economy in 2008 & oil isn’t as profitable as it used to be. WELCOME TO THE GREAT RESET, the new normal, the digital revolution..Ai, automation & UBI.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 13, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  jen

the world financial/economic collapse was already underway, and was likely to be much more severe than in 2008. that disaster provoked the Occupy Wall Street movement, which eventually had to be suppressed by state violence. current phenomena such the Gilets Jaunes movement suggest that the popular reaction to a new collapse is likely to be much more threatening to the global ruling-class.   in this context, some explanation for the collapse had to be found, which would divert attention away from the inherent injustice of neoliberal capitalism. ideally, such an explanation would also serve to obstruct the formation or development of social movements such as the Gilets Jaunes, which would directly threaten the continued rule of the billionaires.   at this exact juncture, an allegedly pandemic disease suddenly appeared, forcing the shutdown of the economy that was already shutting down, and necessitating the confinement of the entire developed-world population, conveniently… Read more »

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 8:53 PM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

I agree somewhat however, Gilets Jaunes has already been neutralized and OWS was never more than a media event . The covid panic-demic is however the real thing a global clamp down done with malice aforethought by our global elites and their legions of slaves.
 

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  jen

The Govts(all are w central banking systems ) are the banksters corporations the taxpayers as debt slaves , control is key when you can create money from debt .
Look at the increased debt from COVID borrowing and you have followed the money. You follow Gates, big pharma and any other corporation profiting off this scam and you’ll find a “Rockefeller or a Rothschild” bankster.
We have never had “capitalism” with an economic monopoly its called banksterism.
One of the NWO agendas for their nazi socialism( coined “happyism”)and mass poverty is anti capitalism.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 7:06 PM
Reply to  jen

if someone attack you dont deny it happened because you dont see why they would do it. they r not likely to explain why. i think people r so damaged like how people stay in abusive relatioships n delude themselves that they fell on door nob or it wont hapen again if they just keep quiet. i find it incredible people can claim to love and make this sort of world 4 their kids.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 7:22 PM
Reply to  rachel

they don have any idea what love even means. one of the hidden lessons in school is to stay in abusive relationships. parents shouldnt force kids to go. it should be love motivating them to learn.

kevin
kevin
Jun 13, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  rachel

Yes,very true. How can any decent parent allow this to happen to their children?
 

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 8:48 PM
Reply to  jen

Short explanation . Capitalism/neoliberalism functions best in an unstable environment of fear and hatred , boom and bust , shortages and gluts where there are few winners and many losers .The goal is always monopoly and captive markets. Governments today are used mainly as muscle and currency legitimizers , people believe US currency is valuable because it has the most nukes and has used them. So called Main Stream Media journalists are propagandists for a small cadre of globalized billionaires and their acolytes/servants/wannabees and academia .These folk , and there are many millions of them globally , resent paying living wages , dislike the notion of equality , and having the planets resorts cluttered with working folk.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 14, 2020 2:12 PM
Reply to  jen

governments have to pay welfare to thousands/millions 

You appear to think governments have money. They don’t.

Howard
Howard
Jun 13, 2020 3:52 PM

The US media apparently already thought of that and came up with their Plan B strategy. The states which are phasing back the lockdown have been declared “COVID Hot Spots.” And, accordingly, the number of cases and corresponding deaths have “Spiked.”   Besides the government’s proven track record of fudging all kinds of statistics, there is the obvious “sore thumb” sticking out. Namely, how did phasing back, which only began a week or two ago, result in such a flurry of pathogenic activity all at once?   I suspect the media is so sure of the stupidity of the American public that it doesn’t think for a minute they’ll put two and two together correctly this time – and realize something’s not quite right that in a mere week or two such a “Spike” could possibly occur.   Time will tell. But I’m not holding my breath that the public… Read more »

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 3:59 PM
Reply to  Howard

In nurse Erin’s testimony, she says the difference between healthy lungs and the “covid” lungs was the white color viewable via X ray.
 
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.244035160
 
I wonder if the fake covid diagnosis based on lung damage wasn’t actually 5g effects.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 13, 2020 7:10 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Thats not COVID there is no such thing as COVID except the psyop. This chest appearance can be due to things affecting the lung itself, most commonly a bad pneumonia. As 5G was found to increase bacterial colonies it is possible that the pneumonia is Bacterial pneumonia an infection of your lungs said (in the theory) to be caused by certain bacteria that you have in your throat all the time. Imbalance.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

Yes – I agree there is no Covid disease. Any inflammation of the lungs will generate the white masses appearing in these photos. I wish nurse Erin would connect those dots.

Howard
Howard
Jun 14, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

It’s interesting too that some of the worst “Hot Spots” are where 5g has been rolled out – such as New York City and Houston, TX.
 
Not to mention how interesting that this COVID scare just happened to come along when there was a growing backlash against the 5g rollout. Doubtless purely a coincidence.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 14, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

We should ask what this technology is capable of. If their is a way to focus its energy on particular individuals? Not only direct radiation bodily damage, but using data to influence people’s behavior through their smart phones. Maybe targeting individuals based on their data consumption habits?
 
You can now regularly see the 5g satellite trains in the night sky. They are very bright and fast. 5g disease theater.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 4:47 PM
Reply to  Howard

Ive been shocked how much the public in California is getting the picture on this. Only a few years ago that wouldn’t have been the case.

Last week in our county of Orange on the south border of L.A., the health director resigned amid much pushback (and anonymous threats) and the new director said masks are no longer mandatory, in defiance of state mandates. Governor Newsom has also been adjusting his stance to show more flexibility. Its a delicate dance of sillinesses, which are plentiful.

Such as, “Knowing what everyone now knows, why is there still a lockdown?”

I found this out yesterday at our YMCA, which was allowed to reopen after 90 days of lockdown and a bonanza for toilet paper manufcturers.

Howard
Howard
Jun 14, 2020 2:51 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

This is great news – and certainly helps explain why Californians are unique among Americans. Although as time goes by, more individuals are coming to see the lunacy of the lockdown.
 
That doesn’t seem to be true in Maryland, where I live. But there are many questioning the lockdown in Virginia, where (Democratic) Governor Ralph Northam imposed mandatory mask wearing just a week ago – doubtless under pressure from other Democratic governors.
 
As always, the biggest obstacle is public apathy. Once people got over the initial shock of having their lives upended, they fell right in line once they saw they could still bury themselves in their smart phones. Proper breathing takes a back seat to watching cats and other critters doing silly things. First things first you know.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jun 13, 2020 3:52 PM

”The lockdown was a panic-driven overreaction.”   I suppose that would depend on what you believe is true.If you believe the pandemic descended upon us out of the blue and was shrouded in mystery and caprice then yes- panic would be a normal reaction. Especially as it was apparently deadly and spreading. On the other hand, if you believe that the pandemic was a drill of gargantuan proportions and an exercise in how to control as large a slice of the global population through undiluted and unrelenting fear, them you wouldn’t really be overreacting at all- you’d be merely pretending to react with urgency to maintain the appearance of a global threat.So, position number one is yes, it was a panic-driven overreaction.Position number two is no, it was all part of a mass rehearsal and exercise in mind manipulation and behavioural programming using deceit and fear.The overreaction was paramount to the… Read more »

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 3:40 PM

Mask / Muzzle wearing and Social Distancing, measures to keep sheeple and Karens happy.

1) Pictures from Wuhan show everybody and their dog with a mask on – didn’t do much bloody good did it.
2) Pictures from Japan show they are still cramming onto their trains. Japan has a really low Covid death rate. So that proves social distancing is also a load of bull, when you have 48 million crammed into the greater Tokyo area.

Social distancing completely screws the entire hospitality / travel / tourism industry, therefore the most likely reason it is being pushed is continuing economic sabotage.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

…measures to keep sheeple and Karens happy.

 
Lol. Don’t forget all the Lindas
 
https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/medieval-renaissance/why-did-doctors-during-the-black-death-wear-beak-masks/
 
Masks during worst plague of history didn’t do much good, did it?
 
“Miasmas” and “Vapors” are just about as good as science as Covid.
 
I argue the mask is a symbol of a death cult / world population actuaries which have been around since Atlantis pre-civilization 15,000 – 10,000 BC.
 
Note the beak mask resembles Anubis.
 

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

It also explains many of the human sacrifice rituals in mesoamerica – a “barbaric” culture capable of insane worldwide geometric similarities, advanced pyramid building, and intriguing mythology.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 3:58 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Oh No – don’t you know the real reason for the bird beak mask?
It’s the best shape to pack full of tobacco leaves, which are damped and set to slowly smoulder.
As we all know, smokers have a far lower incidence of Covid 19, therfore a continuous inhalation of nicotine confers a form of immunity

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 4:09 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion
Ort
Ort
Jun 13, 2020 10:30 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Light up or leave me alone! 😉

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 9:07 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

I remember the 1960s when government and plastic manufacturers decided that those that ride motorcycles must wear plastic on top of their heads. They were called “little Johnny gonna hurt himself on that motorcycle laws” A major success to authoritarian bureaucrats looking to extort moneys in the form of fines and of course the plastics industry.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 9:27 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

The most effective device to promote road safety has been found to be a 6″ steel spike fixed to the steering wheel.
I thought everyone knew about risk preference levels adjusting to technology, I.e. now that every car has anti lock brakes, everyone brakes later because they know the brakes won’t lock up / skid.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 10:48 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

How about the fleets of self-driving cars that we will be seeing soon? We will be the guinea pigs on safety statistics.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 10:52 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

It’ll be a bit like nuclear fusion.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 14, 2020 1:03 AM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Well, the fleets are out, nuclear fusion may be a couple years. 😉

bob
bob
Jun 13, 2020 3:13 PM

The Bodies Pile Up But Only The Money Is Counted



how many charities have stood up and made a noise to government – come on Cancer Research? come on Mind? – where are you? I think this clearly undermines the article

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 3:55 PM
Reply to  bob

I don’t see how it undermines ending lock down? I suspect if they had carried on as normal much of the care home catastrophe would have been avoided.
 
And honestly the PPE distraction is really just obfuscation. Current unproven & unnecessary social distancing in hospitals is costing lives right now they just aren’t being recorded yet.
 
Hospitals are still reserving staff & beds in empty covid wards waiting for the “2nd wave” & spacing beds further apart in normal wards so they are 50% down in capacity.
 
When this all finally ends the number of deaths caused by medical neglect will overshadow the number of covid deaths by 100s of thousands.
 
The care home deaths were an unnecessary tragedy but there’s far worse scandals to come. PPE propaganda is official misinformation.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 13, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  bob

Where are these bodies .In reality they have not been shown to exist. Except in file footage shown by New York politicians. This years flu out break which is what Covid is/was has been shown to be milder than last years, fewer deaths ?

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 13, 2020 2:56 PM

To all untermenschen and useless eaters:
 
 
THREE SIMPLE (and easy) WAYS TO BECOME A MASK NAZI
 

  1. Stop thinking for oneself (CRITICAL THINKING is forbidden unequivocally and absolutely)
  2. Put on your mask
  3. OBEY!

 
https://allthatsinteresting.com/plague-doctors
 
 
 

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 13, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Hey MASK NAZIS:
 
 
The Murphy-Virus Relief Fund suggests you take off those masks, go outside, get some sun and breathe in the fresh air. It will do a world of good.
 
 
https://www.gofundme.com/f/Kim-pagan-Ayla-Wolf
 
 

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Some contend that increased oxygen intake will help blood flow to the brain and that may even become an aid to better critical thinking.

Another argument against masks. (At least from our side.)

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 13, 2020 4:19 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

DO YOU HAVE THE MURPHY-VIRUS?     The Murphy-Virus Contagion (a particularly virulent and nasty strain of the Goldman-Sachs viral complex) rages out of control and unabated here in New Jersey.   However, indications are that it is a worldwide PANDEMIC.     Here are signs that one may have contracted it.     Do you dress up like this?   https://twitter.com/_Mailman_/status/1247314194602418181/photo/1     Do you have an urge to climb out on to balconies, rant incoherently and bark out orders?   Do your eyes bulge and get bugged eye when someone questions your sanity?   Do you have an urge to put on a hazmat suit, lock yourself in a dark closet and drink bleach (“to clean out your insides of the virus”)? .     If you have three of these four symptoms you may have it. Fortunately help is on the way in the form of the… Read more »

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

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rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 2:54 PM

when it was the age of discovery no viruses had evolved in nz or aus or the americas or png or anywhere else to be brought back to europe. guess they were too busy plundering to worry that it might make the story sound fake.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 4:53 PM
Reply to  rachel

I like you, but ya gotta start proofreading and correcting your grammar / vernacular a little more.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 8:00 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

it is not bad 4 a tv remote.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 10:27 PM
Reply to  rachel

Lol. Touche. Least it isn’t a smartphone.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 13, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  rachel
Dave Patterson
Dave Patterson
Jun 13, 2020 2:44 PM

well, nice try I guess but this belongs in some faith-based publication – the government ‘should’ do something – well, sure they ‘should’, but there’s about a million things they ‘should’ do that they’re not ever going to – so this is just some form of wishful thinking, not of much practical use. You can do better, Off-G

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 5:38 PM
Reply to  Dave Patterson

I think it may have been posted tongue in cheek. We don’t necessarily have to give each article equal weight, in the scales of covid-crisis urgency.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 2:03 PM

Well, like you, WHO say one thing and obviously, under pressure from who knows who, changes their advice. Not just about wearing the masks but more recently about asymptomatic people not being a risk to others and will not pass it on to others to a complete volta face saying they might. My feeling is if you are asymptomatic then you haven’t got it because you would, er, have symptoms. They are making it up as they go along. Around here, people seem to have completely abandoned the social distancing crap. Certainly, the people on the demonstrations have! Now the scaremongering is oh, there will be a second wave! 2nd Wave be damned. 2nd Wave of what exactly? Fear, austerity, hysteria. An alien looking down might just think the bubonic plague was rife.

Cesca
Cesca
Jun 13, 2020 1:30 PM

My thoughts are that we should just call out the great cv19 lie for what it is, there hasn’t even been an epidemic let alone a pandemic, of any seasonal virus.   What’s really happening is the globalist puppeteers have pushed the global reset button, thru their political minions. Don’t like either of them but have to say kudos to Trump and Bojo, for some resistance at least. Bojo has caved but Trump still shows some fight at times. The cv19 hoax is being pretty much rested atm, the 2nd stage of the imposition of tyranny is in full flow now, where family and society is being further atomised/disconnected from each other. No doubt nearly all protesters in the police brutality protests are sincere, but they have been hijacked by the globalist puppeteers, rentamob thugs. The idea is to get ordinary ppl pleading for full martial law to *protect* them,… Read more »

kevin
kevin
Jun 13, 2020 5:09 PM
Reply to  Cesca

Excellent comment and Barnett is great.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  Cesca

I think you’re right. Thats what (real) marches and protests are all about, “calling out” Power, about a Big Lie.

Simplest strategy. The more people who get off the dime and find their own way (since only choreographed msrches are allowed) to call these con artists out, the more it will add to our favor.

Survival? Continued breathing?

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 13, 2020 1:18 PM

Received a nice coloured leaflet through the door last week headlined PPE PROTECT featuring a clever looking white coated young lady inspecting a little black object (?) and of course wearing the ubiquitous mask which they are trying to sell. Its from Paragon Health & Safety Consultants. It states in small type that the mask can protect you from “various viruses in the air”. I have emailed them asking which viruses they meant but they have still not replied as yet. Our main street is now aligned with traffic cones in preparation for widening the pavements so that we can all maintain a 2 metre space from fellow shoppers when out buying our lockdown supplies. This week pubs are asking for permission to install tables outside their premises to serve thirsty customers with strict supervision of toilet facilities. Sitting at a table drinking beer alongside passing traffic is not everyone’s… Read more »

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 13, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Grafter

I also like the image of sitting in a pub or restaurant with friends all two metres apart, presumably wearing masks when they’re not actually eating or drinking, possibly separated by perspex screens, and trying to have a conversation. There’s going to be a lot of intolerable shouting going on and repeated use of the phrases “What did you say? I can’t hear you”. Going to toilets is going to be an unimaginable enterprise.
 
No, weekends out for a relaxed sociable get-together, lunchtime trips to the pub with work colleagues, work colleagues leaving/retirement celebrations/birthday celebrations will be a thing of the past. Who on earth would want to put themselves through such regimented and impractical nonsense? I really do feel for people in the food and drink sector.
 
 

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

You wont be able to use the convenience, you’ll have to wear a Catheter Bag & empty it when you get home, so I advise you don’t have more than 2 pints. Welcome to the new normal.

Howard
Howard
Jun 13, 2020 4:19 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

That’s the idea of course: to re-make society into a sterile No Man’s Land where the ordinary pleasures of life become unbearably boring and meaningless. Nor will it be a coincidence that the real “Second Wave” will hit just in time to destroy Christmas and (for Americans) Thanksgiving.
 
It is absolutely unthinkable to give up Christmas gatherings. But if the ruling class can succeed in having us do just that, then they have nothing whatsoever to fear from the masses ever again.

Ort
Ort
Jun 13, 2020 10:27 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

If you haven’t seen Vernon Coleman’s “The Dentistry Madness” video, please do. Until a few months ago, I would’ve assumed it was entirely satirical– as Coleman himself says often enough.
 
It beggars belief that even a blinkered technocrat or bureaucrat, singly or in committee, would fail to understand that even if the preposterous proposed procedures seem “necessary”, they are obviously unworkable. I still wonder if they are actual, real official proposals, and not a satire written by someone who’d primed the pump by reading plenty of Kafka.
 
Put the other way around: if persons in authority are actually promulgating this insanity, it could only be for the nefarious purpose of discouraging the public from going to the dentist, and to drive the profession of dentistry out of existence.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lsv793gH4I

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 13, 2020 11:21 PM
Reply to  Ort

Exactly, Ort. I watched the dentistry video a couple of days ago and shared it with people I know well who previously intimated that I had been brainwashed but are now gradually coming around to realising that maybe people like us do have a point. I live in North Wales and dentists here are not even scheduled to reopen for business until January! Apparently some dentists are looking into renting property over the border in Chester just so they can operate a semblance of a business and hope for some faint glimmer of survival. Desperate times indeed.
 

Ort
Ort
Jun 14, 2020 12:42 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

On a completely unrelated note, I smiled when I read your reply. It’s well known that many place names in the US are borrowed from the UK, or British Isles, or whatever the proper term is– especially on the East Coast, and especially in the vicinity of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where I live.   I went to high school with someone who lived in the not-too-distant borough of North Wales, PA. And the city of Chester is just south of Philly; I often visited there in the course of my former employment.   Many years ago, my expatriate brother returned for a visit, accompanied by a group of colleagues from Europe and the UK. My long-deceased father was bemused when one member of the group said he was from “Jersey”, because his accent seemed decidedly un-Jerseyan. Dad’s confusion partly arose because residents of the adjoining state, New Jersey, commonly refer to it as “Jersey”.  … Read more »

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 14, 2020 10:43 AM
Reply to  Ort

Thanks for your fond reminiscences, Ort. It’s nice to have a fleeting distraction from the nightmare scenario we find ourselves in.
 
As they would say in the US, ‘Have a nice day’. 😀

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2020 1:11 PM

Why isn’t Ferguson being charged with gross incompetence which resulted in devastation to many people’s lives and the UK economy? Not to mention the rest of the World. How many in the United States alone are now unemployed? Over 40 million, I believe, along with all those who will soon be homeless. Cockup is far too polite a term. And I wonder how many politicians do you know who would willingly stand in front of a TV camera, and admit they made a right royal screw up? I sell The Big Issue mag, which was suspended 11 weeks ago today because of the panicdemic. It’s been a mentally tough slog. I know of other New Zealand citizens living in Australia who only had a few weeks rent money in their bank when they were laid off from work. The mag will resume again on Mon 29th June, and all vendors… Read more »

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

how is wearing a face mask much different to furgussons actions?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  rachel

Rachel – Management at the mag have decided that ‘vendors will be expected to wear face masks at all times’. We have virtually no say in their decisions.
And yes, I could hand them articles from OffG and elsewhere about face masks, but I greatly doubt it would change their mind.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 1:49 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezza, Ferguson charged? TPTB would never allow that because the truth and nothing but would have to come out in court! What went unreported over the past two weeks was that he has stated that lockdown, social distancing etc have had no effect at all. We all knew that though. Strangely, the MSM didn’t run this. Worse though, is I think it was last week, he said had lockdown not happened there would have been up to 3m deaths! That’s using his useless forecasting tool! They are making it up as they go along. Obviously, Ferguson hasn’t looked at the countries that weren’t in lockdown who have faired a lot better than we have. WTF? He must have a magicians hat into which he dips and comes up with these worthless, falsified figures. Anyway, nice to see you will be back out selling the Big Issue in a couple… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Hi Jo, nice to hear from you again. I know already about the Ferguson story. I saw a couple stories on Ferguson views on the lockdowns and social distancing on my FB newsfeed, and I can’t really repeat the comments people made. Joined several Facebook groups opposed to the lockdowns, 5G, Bill Gates, etc, so lots of info sharing! I’ve also namedropped OffGuardian, (no, I’m not getting a commission!) The Corbett Report, Wrench In The Gears blog, and the impressive Truthstream Media quite often. The whole thing has been a giant debacle. I’ve still got a rent freeze until July 20th, still food in the cupboards, so am fairly lucky. A lot of people have been deeply impacted. How are you going? Do you know when you’ll be back at work? How have you been coping? I know you have your faith. In times like this, it’s important to have… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 14, 2020 1:17 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah, The truth is, the longer lock down continues the less likely it is that i will be able to return to my job. On the plus side though, I have a home and food on the table and my writing is really going well now. So, for me, for the first time in 25 years I am what I have always wanted to be, a penniless writer!!   I’ve looked on the internet and there aren’t really any jobs around. There is some thinking that when furlough comes to an end (I think it’s October) there will be a lot more unemployed. Also, the UK’s GDP has fallen by a whopping 20% – that’s a Depression and mass unemployment looming (which I have predicted for the past 3 years) and a No Deal Brexit (Coming up in June will compound that). I sure am glad about one thing… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 14, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I’m approaching the wrong side of 60! (57) Hope your week is good. At least you have your writing = creativity. You’re right, too much damage has been done to the economy for things to bounce back, and, there’s a lot of people predicting there will be a second wave in Sept/ Oct. It’s out of our control. What happens, happens. As I said, am just taking it one day at a time, get back to selling mag, and try and shove as much money in the bank before anything else happens. Am going to draw on my Superannuation here as due to people suffering severe financial hardship, coz of the panicdemic, they’ve made it easy for people to access their Super early. Where do you normally get your food from? Tesco or Aldi? Are there any markets near you or any allotments? I know a few commenters are growing… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 15, 2020 2:07 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah, I shop at Lidl mainly and Iceland are the best deal in town for frozen prawns! I’m not a great vegetable eater so they are not priority. The shops have re-opened here today so there are a lot more people out.   I say 2nd wave be damned, we haven’t even had a 1st one!! It’s all scaremongering and hysteria again. The Scientists have become the new Nazis I think.   It’s interesting but sometimes I tap into some USA newspapers to see how they view the UK and Europe. One thing I will say is that their reporting is far more honest than ours is. What they are reporting about the UK is that is has the worst economy not just in Europe but possibly the developed world. So, with a No Deal Brexit a certainty and this idiotic lockdown, they report that it is going to… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 13, 2020 5:56 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Ferguson was also quoted as saying that by delaying introducing lockdown as long as it did, the government had caused loss of life to be about twice as high
as it might otherwise have been. Or something like that. I didn’t pay too much attention because I knew he was either getting these figures out of his **** or out of one of his terrible computer programmes, either location being equally unsavoury.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jun 13, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Ferguson’s a complete fool. He’s trying to save face. After his astounding mistakes with Foot and Mouth and the like he had every need to be extra careful with this one.Instead he used a 13 year old unregistered model( if he actually did use one).He obviously didn’t expect to come under scrutiny.Just take the cash, deliver the numbers for the boss and wait.But it went badly wrong.He insisted that we were in a crucial phase and that breaking self isolation was a potential powder keg.He then broke it himself and pretty much confirmed by his actions that he didn’t believe that himself.Or, to put it more plainly- he demonstrated that he was lying to everyone- not just his wife.Now he’s drawing on false statistics to try and make real observations and commentary.He’s full of the brown stuff.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 15, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

In the interviews with him which were shown in a recent UK Column broadcast which Off-G featured, his body language is interesting. He appears to be looking at the camera, but in fact his eyes are either cast down or mostly shut.
 
The most obvious explanation is that he is lying through his teeth, and doesn’t actually believe what he is saying.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 14, 2020 1:19 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Hi Mike, yes I think Professor Pantsdown’s nether regions must have significantly expanded with all the large amount of bullshit emanating from it.

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 14, 2020 10:55 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Same reason as …Why isn’t Tony Blair being charged with war crimes.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 13, 2020 1:05 PM

Is this satire?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 7:32 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Of course it is satire, it ends with “happy bunny”??

Wait, is your qyestion satire?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 14, 2020 10:33 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

It is so hard to tell these days. One day someone says something satirically. The next day it happens. Take the protests for example. In the space of the past month, the political media elite have gone from asserting that protesters are literally killing people, to praising protesters, to condemning protesters. These people are destroying satire.

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 13, 2020 12:27 PM

 Telegraph….Coronavirus latest news: Doctors and nurses ordered to stop ‘congregating’ 
Ahhh, we will miss all those Nursey Dances…
 
Simon Cowell declares on Britain’s Got Covid; ‘the winner is Staph Nurse and the Not So Comicals‘, and they have won £1 Million of contaminated* vax from our sponsor, Bill Gates.
Let’s have a big Clap for all our contestants…
 
*The manufacturer bears no responsibility for side effects, such as balls falling off, death etc etc etc etc…
Mark of The Beast manufacturing is trademarked through Satan’s subsidiary, Bill Gates.

Watt
Watt
Jun 13, 2020 4:07 PM
Reply to  Mo' Gabby

I had to smile at ‘Staph’ Nurse!

Howard
Howard
Jun 13, 2020 4:22 PM
Reply to  Mo' Gabby

Please do not put the cart before the horse. Satan is Bill Gates’ subsidiary.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 7:35 PM
Reply to  Howard

Him and CIA, right?

Of course, at the heart of the problem lies the fact that there are powerful people who think just that. All the while being embezzled into bankruptcty by the “subsidiary”, who we are told “was a liar and thief from the beginning.”

Mikeb
Mikeb
Jun 13, 2020 12:18 PM

I think the constant indecision and flip flopping is of course for a reason. One minute coffee is bad then good, butters bad then good lockdown this distance that. All designed to keep the sheep in a permenant state of utter bewilderment and confusion. When your not particularly bright, you just use msm and government sources for your info. When they’re confused they comply more. Take my freedoms, protect me. Other groups take advantage like with the riots etc, again planned lawlesness for the sheep to beg to be protected. The human being is programed to want to follow, worship a god, leader. Theres a limited ammount of rebels that wont, dont follow the spiel. Theres the see someone breaking the rules report them. All designed to seek out the rebels and make the sheep more complient because they’re doing good reporting those evil bastards killing people. It would not… Read more »

jay
jay
Jun 13, 2020 1:16 PM
Reply to  Mikeb

Opera Browser has a built in vpn for free, swiss cows browser, clear your cache often…
All Hard to prove who has been using a pc unless you open your mouth.
There is some worrying legislation coming through with this hoax, but they will have difficulty implimenting it.
I am hoping that they have missed the boat and missed putting the finnishing touches to their plans. The Sheep are asking too many questions. I could be wrong and certainly, this is the start of our “tribulations”.
Seek the LORD while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 2:08 PM
Reply to  Mikeb

Mikeb, Oh so true unfortunately. Let’s see because, as I have been saying for the past year to friends and colleagues, the British economy was in serious recession with the GDP output figures dropping, dropping and dropping year on year. I also said a No Deal Brexit would tip us into a Depression. Well, it seems it will but they are going to blame it on Covid when the pound is tanking due to a No Deal Brexit. GDP dropped by 20% as was reported this week. What are the government going to do now? Lift the lockdown or become a poor country because we won’t have the EU now to bolster the economy. We will have a crappy Trade Deal with the USA the main focus of which is to take over this country’s economy I think and secure a large market for USA food imports. WTF? What do… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jun 13, 2020 4:33 PM
Reply to  Mikeb

If only…if only! If only the masses were being “programmed to want to follow, worship a god, leader.” But I’m afraid all the evidence of human history suggests they are hard wired to want these things; the programming is a so far vain attempt to get those few of us who lack the wiring on board.
 
That too is alright, since the vast majority have a natural immunity to accepting anything they don’t wish to accept. I recall something I read by Konrad Lorentz. He had taken a Greylag Goose for a house pet; the goose had a rigid routine every night before going upstairs to bed. One night she forgot one piece of the routine – and became completely disoriented and freaked out. Sound like any species you know?

Andy Brent
Andy Brent
Jun 13, 2020 12:04 PM

‘The British’, formerly also known as ‘the English’, replete with asymmetric national devolution, the Barnett Formula, and the oft. resurgent West Lothian Question, are a bunch of idiotic prats ruled by a ‘UK’ Government which does not serve its original purpose. It cannot. Asymmetric national devolution is not democracy. The Scottish and Welsh (strangely, no longer primarily labelled ‘British’ politically) are far more with it.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  Andy Brent

The Scots currently ruled by the Spiteful Nannying Party are subjected to an even more micromanaging petty fascist historically amnesiac regime.
Devolution under the natzis has meant much less local autonomy and and obsessive centralisation with an easily forecast loss of competence at the small things.

Mo' Gabby
Mo' Gabby
Jun 13, 2020 12:48 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Indeed, I even found myself voting to try and remove the SNP incumbent, they are that bad.

Watt
Watt
Jun 13, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Mo' Gabby

We are beginning to hear all sorts about the SNP!

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 3:59 PM
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Amen, i tried to up-vote you twice.

Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
Jun 13, 2020 4:06 PM
Reply to  Objective

Indeed, you only have to look at the natzi track record of centralising everything in Edinburgh, sticking “Scotland Scotland scotland” somwheren in the title and watching performance nose dive.
Education, health care, transport, energy, planning etc etc are all doing noticeably worse than their counterparts in England.
Can you say ferry’s? BBC has brushed that one under the carpet hasn’t it, can you imagine if that had been the Tories.
I have heard that the Natzis are quite content with trashing Scotland for a generation and turning it into a dungheap as long as they can blame the eeevil Tories

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Jun 13, 2020 10:36 AM

I think I can see the faint outlines of a pattern emerging.   Throughout history until a few years ago, everyone accepted that infectious diseases appeared every now and then, killing large numbers of people. Then the dead were buried, and life went on.   Recently, however – and especially with the present “Covid-19” – there seems to be a great solicitude for the sanctity of life and for avoiding any deaths at all. Which is hard to put into practice, as the Human Being Mark I seems to have an average life expectancy of 70-80 years (with some living to 100 years and over).   With a current world population getting on for 8.8 billion, at first sight it is surprising that only about 60 million people die each year. That’s only about one in 160. The explanation is that so many more people are born each year than… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 13, 2020 10:45 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

I don’t think it is respect for the sanctity of human life. Quite the reverse. It the same people who argue for population transfers and for population reduction.
 
“The fact that population transfers are currently making a comeback on the scholarly and policy agenda also suggests that we should scrutinize with particular care the most extensive experiment made with them to date. Despite the gruesome history, enthusiasts continue to chase the mirage of “humane” mass deportations as a means of resolving intractable ethnic problems. Andrew Bell-Fialkoff, in a much-cited study, has advocated population transfers as a valuable tool so long as they are “conducted in a humane, well-organized manner, like the transfer of Germans from Czechoslovakia by the Allies in 1945-47.” John Mearsheimer, Chaim Kaufmann, Michael Mann and others have done likewise.”
https://www.chronicle.com/article/The-European-Atrocity-You/132123

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

not everyone accepted that idea. stefan lanka said in pandemic pantomine in ancient greece there was the notion that there was an infection demon. this sort of idea would presumably have caused some sort of quarantine or exodus n many deaths.

rachel
rachel
Jun 13, 2020 11:31 AM
Reply to  rachel

i only started introducing soald because i thought the threat was so large n i was the one who could c a solution. a great investigation is needed into these signs of a lock down so marking documents soald is a beginning to a process of preventing such atrocities. this investigation will likely go on for centuries n soald will be recognised as a turning point.

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  rachel

What is “soald”?

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Objective

I think she is clowning you guys.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jun 13, 2020 10:52 PM
Reply to  rachel

Gates is an infection demon..;)

A leaf
A leaf
Jun 13, 2020 5:57 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

This is so well put, the hypocracy in the western world is astonishing. And actually this is all about it. Westerners in a delusion that they will never die like ever , thanks to their relatively carefree, event free lives…

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 13, 2020 6:07 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

The biggest killers are still cardiovascular disease and cancers of various sorts, which are not communicable diseases. (It’s true that grant-seeking researchers have been trying to prove for years that cancers are caused by viruses without success, with the possible exception of HPV – at least that has proved successful for the manufacturers of the HPV vaccine).

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 7:45 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

People in affluent societies (and that is the meaning of “developed country”) live a pipe dream in a bubble, as far as noticing death off their shores.

£4£&$4$+my2¢~~~~~~~~~~~~

“America….just a nation of 200 million used car salesmen, with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.”

~~~Hunter S. Thompson

At least the Lockdown has finally got our attention, with all its calamify.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 7:47 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Calami-

-ty 😎

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2020 8:26 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

Here’s at least one great American, one who doesn’t think “some animals are more equal than others”, judging by the epigraph on his home page, one he has underlined with a lot of his own blood (“on the tracks”) the day he got both his legs cut off by a U.S. Navy train as his group was protesting shipments of phosphorous rockets for use against the Sandinistas (read: helpless tribal villagers mostly) in 1987. (I had the great privilege to walk and talk with him a few months later. (He was already up and about, speaking to a small group in a lecture hall at UCLA.)

S. Brian Willson, his epigraph: “We are not worth more. They are not worth less.” ~~~

https://www.brianwillson.com/whose-blood-whose-hands-2/

Blubber
Blubber
Jun 15, 2020 3:23 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

I think it boils down to people wishing to save their own skin and not really caring too much about anyone else’s. Pure narcissism.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Jun 15, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Blubber

Yup! Spot on, Blubber.

kenny_the_pict
kenny_the_pict
Jun 13, 2020 10:22 AM

….i’m still very scared of the nasty disease, so i’m going to say a prayer….
Our Mother,
Who art in us, blessed be thy aim.
The kingdom’s done, 
you will be throned on Earth, as it IS written in the Heavens.
You give us daily an abundant spread;
 Forgive us OUR forgetfulness, as we forgive those who have forgotten themselves.
 Enliven us with LOVE,
 For thine is the queendom, the flowers and the faeries,
 For always and ALL WAYS,
  ……….A WOMAN.

….does this mean i’m gay…..??

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 13, 2020 1:31 PM
Reply to  kenny_the_pict

No bisexual.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Jun 13, 2020 10:17 AM

“No one likes to admit they’re wrong, particularly when the errors are huge and so stupid beyond belief. That’s never going to happen voluntarily, at least without some encouragement or a sweetener”.
 
Or a trial. Who thinks a trial would be a good idea? A trial works for me.
 
Followed by a LOT of hard labour on Dartmoor.

bob
bob
Jun 13, 2020 11:27 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

well said Tom
I look forward to the day when Handycock begins 25 years cleaning the windows of all households across the country, for nothing – when Boris has to repair all of our roads with a spoon and tube of ‘Gorilla glue’, for nothing – when Sedwill has to clean everbody’s toilet everyday, for nothing – let them pay for their tyranny but to our advantage!!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

Yes! Agree totally. People need to be held to account for this massive clusterfuck. I peeked at Bob’s reply. I would say, forced to clean toilets at the worst pubs in London. Paid the equivalent of the dole.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Paid the equivalent of the dole Gezzah? Nah. That’s way too much money for these scumbags. They should do it for the good of the public!

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 13, 2020 10:08 AM

And the debate in the British media is that the lock down was badly done, not harsh enough, and was implemented too late. Nobody is allowed to say that it should never have been done at all. Knowing what they know now, and still to be insisting on the closure of companies and places of entertainment is pure wilful economic vandalism, akin only to Brexit in it’s blind ignorance of the facts. This is why I am convinced, like Brexit, this is being ordered externally by the US, I cannot imagine a country doing this to itself from choice. In the US they gave a parachute to the people they cared most about, the large corporations, and proceeded to destroy small independent business and drive the poor even further into poverty and surrender more rights. At least these, I can see the economic and social motive fitting in well with… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 13, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  Harvey

Just as they gave a parachute to the people they cared about in Nazi Germany. Eisenhower killed millions of ordinary Germans* and yet airlifted thousands of senior SS and Nazi officials into the U.S. where they took positions in government, law enforcement, science, the military and, of course intelligence where the OSS effectively merged with the SS effecting a reverse takeover of the newly-formed CIA.   The precise numbers are irrelevant. The point is the Allies said they wanted to destroy Germany… yet they very publicly punished ordinary Germans while incorporating the Nazi bureaucracy into the post-war American and European and Latin American government structures (while Otto Skorzeny and others went to work for Israel). That was a psychological operation. The consequences we are dealing with now: the same U.S. Foundations like Rockefeller, the same U.S.-German corporations, the same eugenics and medical martial law…   The Nazi Hydra In Fascist… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 13, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The Allies incorporated all those war criminals except, they claim, the first class, Hitler and his cabinet, though even that is disputed by prominent names like former Reuters duty editor Gerrard Williams in Grey Wolf (2011) and Paul Manning in Bormann (1981)
 
From the aforementioned book: “Soviet scholar Professor A. Farrin published an English version of War and the Working Class. This publication hinted at being the official viewpoint of the Soviet Union. The article divided war criminals into four classes.
“The first class included Hitler and his cabinet ministers. The second class included party leaders and the German Army Command. Financial and industrial leaders made up the third class. The fourth group was defined as those who benefited from the Nazi plundering, such as by receiving stolen goods or exploiting slave labor.”
 

Antonym
Antonym
Jun 13, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

That explains why the US are Israel’s strongest supporter…. not.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Moneycircus, it is my understanding that the USA do not recognise, in any way, the Geneva Convention. Plenty of evidence to support this. The Abu Grabe torture camp, detention at quantanamo etc.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Jun 13, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  Jo Dominich

They have the Republican and Democratic National Conventions….that’s probably quite enough conventions for the USA thank you very much! 😉
 
 

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 13, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  Harvey

Harvey, I think you are probably right there.

Richard Son
Richard Son
Jun 13, 2020 10:08 AM

The British people are awfully decent and understanding

Yeah, that is the diligently cultivated facade. Maybe the recent Tory landslide win was just another rigged election and what you can see on a Saturday night at any British city center is all foreigners who can’t handle their drink.
 
 
It’s easier to see it when the Brits are abroad, when they are indeed awfully decent.
 
Not by any stretch a nation of compliant slaves, not at all. God Save The Queen.
 

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Jun 13, 2020 12:18 PM
Reply to  Richard Son

It is true that British people are, in general, some of the friendliest on earth … as long as they’re not too drunk.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2020 3:26 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Some of them are even friendlier when they’re very drunk…

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 10:04 AM




 
Another you-tube i can’t vouch for but others may enjoy.
 
FREEDOM!

Harvey
Harvey
Jun 13, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Objective

I don’t see the Guardian in that propaganda network but I know it they are vital to it. The UK is the most controlled vassal state in the world. It’s like the CIA’s laboratory.