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COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless Though the whole world relies on RT-PCR to “diagnose” Sars-Cov-2 infection, the science is clear: they are not fit for purpose

Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter

Lockdowns and hygienic measures around the world are based on numbers of cases and mortality rates created by the so-called SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR tests used to identify “positive” patients, whereby “positive” is usually equated with “infected.”

But looking closely at the facts, the conclusion is that these PCR tests are meaningless as a diagnostic tool to determine an alleged infection by a supposedly new virus called SARS-CoV-2.

Unfounded “Test, test, test,…” mantra

At the media briefing on COVID-19 on March 16, 2020, the WHO Director General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said:

We have a simple message for all countries: test, test, test.”

The message was spread through headlines around the world, for instance by Reuters and the BBC.

Still on the 3 of May, the moderator of the heute journal — one of the most important news magazines on German television— was passing the mantra of the corona dogma on to his audience with the admonishing words:

Test, test, test—that is the credo at the moment, and it is the only way to really understand how much the coronavirus is spreading.”

This indicates that the belief in the validity of the PCR tests is so strong that it equals a religion that tolerates virtually no contradiction.

But it is well known that religions are about faith and not about scientific facts. And as Walter Lippmann, the two-time Pulitzer Prize winner and perhaps the most influential journalist of the 20th century said: “Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.”

So to start, it is very remarkable that Kary Mullis himself, the inventor of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) technology, did not think alike. His invention got him the Nobel prize in chemistry in 1993.

Unfortunately, Mullis passed away last year at the age of 74, but there is no doubt that the biochemist regarded the PCR as inappropriate to detect a viral infection.

The reason is that the intended use of the PCR was, and still is, to apply it as a manufacturing technique, being able to replicate DNA sequences millions and billions of times, and not as a diagnostic tool to detect viruses.

How declaring virus pandemics based on PCR tests can end in disaster was described by Gina Kolata in her 2007 New York Times article Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t.

Lack of a valid gold standard

Moreover, it is worth mentioning that the PCR tests used to identify so-called COVID-19 patients presumably infected by what is called SARS-CoV-2 do not have a valid gold standard to compare them with.

This is a fundamental point. Tests need to be evaluated to determine their preciseness — strictly speaking their “sensitivity”[1] and “specificity” — by comparison with a “gold standard,” meaning the most accurate method available.

As an example, for a pregnancy test the gold standard would be the pregnancy itself. But as Australian infectious diseases specialist Sanjaya Senanayake, for example, stated in an ABC TV interview in an answer to the question “How accurate is the [COVID-19] testing?”:

If we had a new test for picking up [the bacterium] golden staph in blood, we’ve already got blood cultures, that’s our gold standard we’ve been using for decades, and we could match this new test against that. But for COVID-19 we don’t have a gold standard test.”

Jessica C. Watson from Bristol University confirms this. In her paper “Interpreting a COVID-19 test result”, published recently in The British Medical Journal, she writes that there is a “lack of such a clear-cut ‘gold-standard’ for COVID-19 testing.”

But instead of classifying the tests as unsuitable for SARS-CoV-2 detection and COVID-19 diagnosis, or instead of pointing out that only a virus, proven through isolation and purification, can be a solid gold standard, Watson claims in all seriousness that, “pragmatically” COVID-19 diagnosis itself, remarkably including PCR testing itself, “may be the best available ‘gold standard’.” But this is not scientifically sound.

Apart from the fact that it is downright absurd to take the PCR test itself as part of the gold standard to evaluate the PCR test, there are no distinctive specific symptoms for COVID-19, as even people such as Thomas Löscher, former head of the Department of Infection and Tropical Medicine at the University of Munich and member of the Federal Association of German Internists, conceded to us[2].

And if there are no distinctive specific symptoms for COVID-19, COVID-19 diagnosis — contrary to Watson’s statement — cannot be suitable for serving as a valid gold standard.

In addition, “experts” such as Watson overlook the fact that only virus isolation, i.e. an unequivocal virus proof, can be the gold standard.

That is why I asked Watson how COVID-19 diagnosis “may be the best available gold standard,” if there are no distinctive specific symptoms for COVID-19, and also whether the virus itself, that is virus isolation, wouldn’t be the best available/possible gold standard. But she hasn’t answered these questions yet – despite multiple requests. And she has not yet responded to our rapid response post on her article in which we address exactly the same points, either, though she wrote us on June 2nd: “I will try to post a reply later this week when I have a chance.”

No proof for the RNA being of viral origin

Now the question is: What is required first for virus isolation/proof? We need to know where the RNA for which the PCR tests are calibrated comes from.

As textbooks (e.g., White/Fenner. Medical Virology, 1986, p. 9) as well as leading virus researchers such as Luc Montagnier or Dominic Dwyer state, particle purification — i.e. the separation of an object from everything else that is not that object, as for instance Nobel laureate Marie Curie purified 100 mg of radium chloride in 1898 by extracting it from tons of pitchblende — is an essential pre-requisite for proving the existence of a virus, and thus to prove that the RNA from the particle in question comes from a new virus.

The reason for this is that PCR is extremely sensitive, which means it can detect even the smallest pieces of DNA or RNA — but it cannot determine where these particles came from. That has to be determined beforehand.

And because the PCR tests are calibrated for gene sequences (in this case RNA sequences because SARS-CoV-2 is believed to be a RNA virus), we have to know that these gene snippets are part of the looked-for virus. And to know that, correct isolation and purification of the presumed virus has to be executed.

Hence, we have asked the science teams of the relevant papers which are referred to in the context of SARS-CoV-2 for proof whether the electron-microscopic shots depicted in their in vitro experiments show purified viruses.

But not a single team could answer that question with “yes” — and NB., nobody said purification was not a necessary step. We only got answers like “No, we did not obtain an electron micrograph showing the degree of purification” (see below).

We asked several study authors “Do your electron micrographs show the purified virus?”, they gave the following responses:

Study 1: Leo L. M. Poon; Malik Peiris. “Emergence of a novel human coronavirus threatening human health” Nature Medicine, March 2020
Replying Author: Malik Peiris
Date: May 12, 2020
Answer: “The image is the virus budding from an infected cell. It is not purified virus.”

Study 2: Myung-Guk Han et al. “Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19”, Osong Public Health and Research Perspectives, February 2020
Replying Author: Myung-Guk Han
Date: May 6, 2020
Answer: “We could not estimate the degree of purification because we do not purify and concentrate the virus cultured in cells.”

Study 3: Wan Beom Park et al. “Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea”, Journal of Korean Medical Science, February 24, 2020
Replying Author: Wan Beom Park
Date: March 19, 2020
Answer: “We did not obtain an electron micrograph showing the degree of purification.”

Study 4: Na Zhu et al., “A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China”, 2019, New England Journal of Medicine, February 20, 2020
Replying Author: Wenjie Tan
Date: March 18, 2020
Answer: “[We show] an image of sedimented virus particles, not purified ones.”

Regarding the mentioned papers it is clear that what is shown in the electron micrographs (EMs) is the end result of the experiment, meaning there is no other result that they could have made EMs from.

That is to say, if the authors of these studies concede that their published EMs do not show purified particles, then they definitely do not possess purified particles claimed to be viral. (In this context, it has to be remarked that some researchers use the term “isolation” in their papers, but the procedures described therein do not represent a proper isolation (purification) process. Consequently, in this context the term “isolation” is misused).

Thus, the authors of four of the principal, early 2020 papers claiming discovery of a new coronavirus concede they had no proof that the origin of the virus genome was viral-like particles or cellular debris, pure or impure, or particles of any kind. In other words, the existence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA is based on faith, not fact.

We have also contacted Dr Charles Calisher, who is a seasoned virologist. In 2001, Science published an “impassioned plea…to the younger generation” from several veteran virologists, among them Calisher, saying that:

[modern virus detection methods like] sleek polymerase chain reaction […] tell little or nothing about how a virus multiplies, which animals carry it, [or] how it makes people sick. [It is] like trying to say whether somebody has bad breath by looking at his fingerprint.”[3]

And that’s why we asked Dr Calisher whether he knows one single paper in which SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated and finally really purified. His answer:

I know of no such a publication. I have kept an eye out for one.”[4]

This actually means that one cannot conclude that the RNA gene sequences, which the scientists took from the tissue samples prepared in the mentioned in vitro trials and for which the PCR tests are finally being “calibrated,” belong to a specific virus — in this case SARS-CoV-2.

In addition, there is no scientific proof that those RNA sequences are the causative agent of what is called COVID-19.

In order to establish a causal connection, one way or the other, i.e. beyond virus isolation and purification, it would have been absolutely necessary to carry out an experiment that satisfies the four Koch’s postulates. But there is no such experiment, as Amory Devereux and Rosemary Frei recently revealed for OffGuardian.

The necessity to fulfill these postulates regarding SARS-CoV-2 is demonstrated not least by the fact that attempts have been made to fulfill them. But even researchers claiming they have done it, in reality, did not succeed.

One example is a study published in Nature on May 7. This trial, besides other procedures which render the study invalid, did not meet any of the postulates.

For instance, the alleged “infected” laboratory mice did not show any relevant clinical symptoms clearly attributable to pneumonia, which according to the third postulate should actually occur if a dangerous and potentially deadly virus was really at work there. And the slight bristles and weight loss, which were observed temporarily in the animals are negligible, not only because they could have been caused by the procedure itself, but also because the weight went back to normal again.

Also, no animal died except those they killed to perform the autopsies. And let’s not forget: These experiments should have been done before developing a test, which is not the case.

Revealingly, none of the leading German representatives of the official theory about SARS-Cov-2/COVID-19 — the Robert Koch-Institute (RKI), Alexander S. Kekulé (University of Halle), Hartmut Hengel and Ralf Bartenschlager (German Society for Virology), the aforementioned Thomas Löscher, Ulrich Dirnagl (Charité Berlin) or Georg Bornkamm (virologist and professor emeritus at the Helmholtz-Zentrum Munich) — could answer the following question I have sent them:

If the particles that are claimed to be to be SARS-CoV-2 have not been purified, how do you want to be sure that the RNA gene sequences of these particles belong to a specific new virus?

Particularly, if there are studies showing that substances such as antibiotics that are added to the test tubes in the in vitro experiments carried out for virus detection can “stress” the cell culture in a way that new gene sequences are being formed that were not previously detectable — an aspect that Nobel laureate Barbara McClintock already drew attention to in her Nobel Lecture back in 1983.

It should not go unmentioned that we finally got the Charité – the employer of Christian Drosten, Germany’s most influential virologist in respect of COVID-19, advisor to the German government and co-developer of the PCR test which was the first to be “accepted” (not validated!) by the WHO worldwide – to answer questions on the topic.

But we didn’t get answers until June 18, 2020, after months of non-response. In the end, we achieved it only with the help of Berlin lawyer Viviane Fischer.

Regarding our question “Has the Charité convinced itself that appropriate particle purification was carried out?,” the Charité concedes that they didn’t use purified particles.

And although they claim “virologists at the Charité are sure that they are testing for the virus,” in their paper (Corman et al.) they state:

RNA was extracted from clinical samples with the MagNA Pure 96 system (Roche, Penzberg, Germany) and from cell culture supernatants with the viral RNA mini kit (QIAGEN, Hilden, Germany),”

Which means they just assumed the RNA was viral.

Incidentally, the Corman et al. paper, published on January 23, 2020 didn’t even go through a proper peer review process, nor were the procedures outlined therein accompanied by controls — although it is only through these two things that scientific work becomes really solid.

Irrational test results

It is also certain that we cannot know the false positive rate of the PCR tests without widespread testing of people who certainly do not have the virus, proven by a method which is independent of the test (having a solid gold standard).

Therefore, it is hardly surprising that there are several papers illustrating irrational test results.

For example, already in February the health authority in China’s Guangdong province reported that people have fully recovered from illness blamed on COVID-19, started to test “negative,” and then tested “positive” again.

A month later, a paper published in the Journal of Medical Virology showed that 29 out of 610 patients at a hospital in Wuhan had 3 to 6 test results that flipped between “negative”, “positive” and “dubious”.

A third example is a study from Singapore in which tests were carried out almost daily on 18 patients and the majority went from “positive” to “negative” back to “positive” at least once, and up to five times in one patient.

Even Wang Chen, president of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, conceded in February that the PCR tests are “only 30 to 50 per cent accurate”; while Sin Hang Lee from the Milford Molecular Diagnostics Laboratory sent a letter to the WHO’s coronavirus response team and to Anthony S. Fauci on March 22, 2020, saying that:

It has been widely reported in the social media that the RT-qPCR [Reverse Transcriptase quantitative PCR] test kits used to detect SARSCoV-2 RNA in human specimens are generating many false positive results and are not sensitive enough to detect some real positive cases.”

In other words, even if we theoretically assume that these PCR tests can really detect a viral infection, the tests would be practically worthless, and would only cause an unfounded scare among the “positive” people tested.

This becomes also evident considering the positive predictive value (PPV).

The PPV indicates the probability that a person with a positive test result is truly “positive” (ie. has the supposed virus), and it depends on two factors: the prevalence of the virus in the general population and the specificity of the test, that is the percentage of people without disease in whom the test is correctly “negative” (a test with a specificity of 95% incorrectly gives a positive result in 5 out of 100 non-infected people).

With the same specificity, the higher the prevalence, the higher the PPV.

In this context, on June 12 2020, the journal Deutsches Ärzteblatt published an article in which the PPV has been calculated with three different prevalence scenarios.

The results must, of course, be viewed very critically, first because it is not possible to calculate the specificity without a solid gold standard, as outlined, and second because the calculations in the article are based on the specificity determined in the study by Jessica Watson, which is potentially worthless, as also mentioned.

But if you abstract from it, assuming that the underlying specificity of 95% is correct and that we know the prevalence, even the mainstream medical journal Deutsches Ärzteblatt reports that the so-called SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR tests may have “a shockingly low” PPV.

In one of the three scenarios, figuring with an assumed prevalence of 3%, the PPV was only 30 percent, which means that 70 percent of the people tested “positive” are not “positive” at all. Yet “they are prescribed quarantine,” as even the Ärzteblatt notes critically.

In a second scenario of the journal’s article, a prevalence of rate of 20 percent is assumed. In this case they generate a PPV of 78 percent, meaning that 22 percent of the “positive” tests are false “positives.”

That would mean: If we take the around 9 million people who are currently considered “positive” worldwide — supposing that the true “positives” really have a viral infection — we would get almost 2 million false “positives.”

All this fits with the fact that the CDC and the FDA, for instance, concede in their files that the so-called “SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR tests” are not suitable for SARS-CoV-2 diagnosis.

In the “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel“ file from March 30, 2020, for example, it says:

Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms”

And:

This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.”

And the FDA admits that:

positive results […] do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”

Remarkably, in the instruction manuals of PCR tests we can also read that they are not intended as a diagnostic test, as for instance in those by Altona Diagnostics and Creative Diagnostics[5].

To quote another one, in the product announcement of the LightMix Modular Assays produced by TIB Molbiol — which were developed using the Corman et al. protocol — and distributed by Roche we can read:

These assays are not intended for use as an aid in the diagnosis of coronavirus infection”

And:

For research use only. Not for use in diagnostic procedures.”

Where is the evidence that the tests can measure the “viral load”?

There is also reason to conclude that the PCR test from Roche and others cannot even detect the targeted genes.

Moreover, in the product descriptions of the RT-qPCR tests for SARS-COV-2 it says they are “qualitative” tests, contrary to the fact that the “q” in “qPCR” stands for “quantitative.” And if these tests are not “quantitative” tests, they don’t show how many viral particles are in the body.

That is crucial because, in order to even begin talking about actual illness in the real world not only in a laboratory, the patient would need to have millions and millions of viral particles actively replicating in their body.

That is to say, the CDC, the WHO, the FDA or the RKI may assert that the tests can measure the so-called “viral load,” i.e. how many viral particles are in the body. “But this has never been proven. That is an enormous scandal,” as the journalist Jon Rappoport points out.

This is not only because the term “viral load” is deception. If you put the question “what is viral load?” at a dinner party, people take it to mean viruses circulating in the bloodstream. They’re surprised to learn it’s actually RNA molecules.

Also, to prove beyond any doubt that the PCR can measure how much a person is “burdened” with a disease-causing virus, the following experiment would have had to be carried out (which has not yet happened):

You take, let’s say, a few hundred or even thousand people and remove tissue samples from them. Make sure the people who take the samples do not perform the test.The testers will never know who the patients are and what condition they’re in. The testers run their PCR on the tissue samples. In each case, they say which virus they found and how much of it they found. Then, for example, in patients 29, 86, 199, 272, and 293 they found a great deal of what they claim is a virus. Now we un-blind those patients. They should all be sick, because they have so much virus replicating in their bodies. But are they really sick — or are they fit as a fiddle?

With the help of the aforementioned lawyer Viviane Fischer, I finally got the Charité to also answer the question of whether the test developed by Corman et al. — the so-called “Drosten PCR test” — is a quantitative test.

But the Charité was not willing to answer this question “yes”. Instead, the Charité wrote:

If real-time RT-PCR is involved, to the knowledge of the Charité in most cases these are […] limited to qualitative detection.”

Furthermore, the “Drosten PCR test” uses the unspecific E-gene assay as preliminary assay, while the Institut Pasteur uses the same assay as confirmatory assay.

According to Corman et al., the E-gene assay is likely to detect all Asian viruses, while the other assays in both tests are supposed to be more specific for sequences labelled “SARS-CoV-2”.

Besides the questionable purpose of having either a preliminary or a confirmatory test that is likely to detect all Asian viruses, at the beginning of April the WHO changed the algorithm, recommending that from then on a test can be regarded as “positive” even if just the E-gene assay (which is likely to detect all Asian viruses!) gives a “positive” result.

This means that a confirmed unspecific test result is officially sold as specific.

That change of algorithm increased the “case” numbers. Tests using the E-gene assay are produced for example by Roche, TIB Molbiol and R-Biopharm.

High Cq values make the test results even more meaningless

Another essential problem is that many PCR tests have a “cycle quantification” (Cq) value of over 35, and some, including the “Drosten PCR test”, even have a Cq of 45.

The Cq value specifies how many cycles of DNA replication are required to detect a real signal from biological samples.

“Cq values higher than 40 are suspect because of the implied low efficiency and generally should not be reported,” as it says in the MIQE guidelines.

MIQE stands for “Minimum Information for Publication of Quantitative Real-Time PCR Experiments”, a set of guidelines that describe the minimum information necessary for evaluating publications on Real-Time PCR, also called quantitative PCR, or qPCR.

The inventor himself, Kary Mullis, agreed, when he stated:

If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

The MIQE guidelines have been developed under the aegis of Stephen A. Bustin, Professor of Molecular Medicine, a world-renowned expert on quantitative PCR and author of the book A-Z of Quantitative PCR which has been called “the bible of qPCR.”

In a recent podcast interview Bustin points out that “the use of such arbitrary Cq cut-offs is not ideal, because they may be either too low (eliminating valid results) or too high (increasing false “positive” results).”

And, according to him, a Cq in the 20s to 30s should be aimed at and there is concern regarding the reliability of the results for any Cq over 35.

If the Cq value gets too high, it becomes difficult to distinguish real signal from background, for example due to reactions of primers and fluorescent probes, and hence there is a higher probability of false positives.

Moreover, among other factors that can alter the result, before starting with the actual PCR, in case you are looking for presumed RNA viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, the RNA must be converted to complementary DNA (cDNA) with the enzyme Reverse Transcriptase—hence the “RT” at the beginning of “PCR” or “qPCR.”

But this transformation process is “widely recognized as inefficient and variable,” as Jessica Schwaber from the Centre for Commercialization of Regenerative Medicine in Toronto and two research colleagues pointed out in a 2019 paper.

Stephen A. Bustin acknowledges problems with PCR in a comparable way.

For example, he pointed to the problem that in the course of the conversion process (RNA to cDNA) the amount of DNA obtained with the same RNA base material can vary widely, even by a factor of 10 (see above interview).

Considering that the DNA sequences get doubled at every cycle, even a slight variation becomes magnified and can thus alter the result, annihilating the test’s reliable informative value.

So how can it be that those who claim the PCR tests are highly meaningful for so-called COVID-19 diagnosis blind out the fundamental inadequacies of these tests—even if they are confronted with questions regarding their validity?

Certainly, the apologists of the novel coronavirus hypothesis should have dealt with these questions before throwing the tests on the market and putting basically the whole world under lockdown, not least because these are questions that come to mind immediately for anyone with even a spark of scientific understanding.

Thus, the thought inevitably emerges that financial and political interests play a decisive role for this ignorance about scientific obligations. NB, the WHO, for example has financial ties with drug companies, as the British Medical Journal showed in 2010.

And experts criticize “that the notorious corruption and conflicts of interest at WHO have continued, even grown“ since then. The CDC as well, to take another big player, is obviously no better off.

Finally, the reasons and possible motives remain speculative, and many involved surely act in good faith; but the science is clear: The numbers generated by these RT-PCR tests do not in the least justify frightening people who have been tested “positive” and imposing lockdown measures that plunge countless people into poverty and despair or even drive them to suicide.

And a “positive” result may have serious consequences for the patients as well, because then all non-viral factors are excluded from the diagnosis and the patients are treated with highly toxic drugs and invasive intubations. Especially for elderly people and patients with pre-existing conditions such a treatment can be fatal, as we have outlined in the article “Fatal Therapie.”

Without doubt eventual excess mortality rates are caused by the therapy and by the lockdown measures, while the “COVID-19” death statistics comprise also patients who died of a variety of diseases, redefined as COVID-19 only because of a “positive” test result whose value could not be more doubtful.

NOTES:-

[1] Sensitivity is defined as the proportion of patients with disease in whom the test is positive; and specificity is defined as the proportion of patients without disease in whom the test is negative.

[2] E-mail from Prof. Thomas Löscher from March 6, 2020

[3] Martin Enserink. Virology. Old guard urges virologists to go back to basics, Science, July 6, 2001, p. 24

[4] E-mail from Charles Calisher from May 10, 2020

[5] Creative Diagnostics, SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kit

Torsten Engelbrecht is an award-winning journalist and author from Hamburg, Germany. In 2006 he co-authored Virus-Mania with Dr Klaus Kohnlein, and in 2009 he won the German Alternate Media Award. He has also written for Rubikon, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Financial Times Deutschland and many others.
Konstantin Demeter is a freelance photographer and an independent researcher. Together with the journalist Torsten Engelbrecht he has published articles on the “COVID-19” crisis in the online magazine Rubikon, as well as contributions on the monetary system, geopolitics, and the media in Swiss Italian newspapers.

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Matthew Carr
Matthew Carr
Feb 28, 2021 11:30 PM

Straw Man after straw man Quotes out of context. Unsupported conclusions such as 70%% false positive rate. Why not complain that speeding tickets are unscientific because there is no gold standard speeding limit. The science improves daily decisions have to be made. No one is intubated or given dangerous drugs merely for having a positive pcr test. We now can assay infectious units and verify that the snips of rna detected at pcr are infectious viruses. Some are not when detected after an infection has run its course, and that’s important too. Vaccine is 95% effective so 5% of the US will get sick That over a million sick people sickened by a bogus vaccine. See how easy the truth can be distorted? This article fully demonstrates how dangerous a little bit of knowledge is.

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Feb 10, 2021 1:34 PM

If anyone could share articles with me that could help me to counter an agreement that Covid is real because of all the people that have died or the numbers of deaths from Covid, I would be very grateful. I speak to people about the bogus PRC test and that the virus has not been properly isolated but find it hard to give a good argument against the socalled numbers of people that have died from Covid or if someone knows someone who died from Covid. I need something more statistical and scientific than the argument that the numbers are falsified by MSM or they died by other complications. Thank-you so much, Denise

lou
lou
Feb 13, 2021 12:53 AM
Reply to  Denise

The “COVID-19 Deaths” are a CDC reporting fraud and probably originate in the 2020 – 2021 “flu shot”

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_covid_deaths.jpg

Guy
Guy
Jan 26, 2021 2:42 PM

Watch this very well made video interview by Naomi Wolf with Kevin McKernan and Bobby Malhotra. If anyone has the wherewithal to get this on BitChute before it is taken down.
“PCR Lab Visit: Whistleblowers Kevin McKernan, Bobby Malhotra Explain Why COVID Tests are “Garbage” “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fznDgRHInM&feature=youtu.be

Stephen Allen
Stephen Allen
Jan 26, 2021 6:44 AM

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-testing-australia-information-health-professionals

Here the Commonwealth of Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration states categorically that PCR is the “gold standard”

Francine
Francine
Jan 14, 2021 3:48 AM

Hi to all! The CDC claims to have isolated the virus – https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0516_article Can anyone/any expert speak to this?

Guy
Guy
Jan 15, 2021 10:10 PM
Reply to  I Jarvis

Thank you for the link .I am in the process of reading Dr.Cowan’s book “The Contagion Myth” and it is very good.
Cheers.

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David Peter Bentley
Jan 13, 2021 7:08 AM

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Covid19 is actually Zika Malaria.

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Jan 7, 2021 3:37 AM

Covid19 …….is…. ZIKA MALARIA with a new name. Test swabs are used to spread the disease and you test positive as to be hospitalized and to be treated for a fake covid INSTEAD OF MALARIA. Your offspring (and of animals) will produce microcephaly babies thus leading to mass abortions and human EXTINCTION. Vaccines are the humanoid creators. 750 million GMO mosquitoes released are to finalize the microcephaly connection to our vaccine altered r n a /dna. Good luck all.

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I was started on 2 broad spectrum antibiotics day 3 because I had sustained temp of 104.9 by that point. My husband and I had kissed and had intercourse 24 hours before I got sick. Also I don’t know of any virus that would be rendered inactive by saliva. My husband drinking after me should have put him at risk. Although he may have some cross immunity?

Manuel
Manuel
Dec 24, 2020 3:44 PM

There is a guy commenting that chose the right name “Pink Panther” …his name is right: HE IS A CARTOON. He can not make comparative math and simply repeats the “Fraud-demic Witch Doctor Scam” . He will graduate with a SUCKER PhD degree… Or maybe I am benevolent in my evaluaton, and worse yet, he is not dumb but just a perverse unit of the 110.000 hired FART CHECKERS …. just as Halloumi qualified him. Do not read him. But he will change his disguise and appear camouflaged with another name… 🙂 :-).. He is grateful that Off-Guardian does not censor is not like Facebook etc. People should realize that those to be believed are the ones who do not censor… and that those who censor are selling the Brooklin Bridge… you buy from them?

Guy
Guy
Dec 20, 2020 8:24 PM

Relevant to the topic , from Global Research .Legal action in progress .
https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-scandal-breaking-merkel-germany/5731891

lou
lou
Dec 12, 2020 9:13 PM

Dear Editors please allow me to repost this important article; it seems Marcr Wathelet does not want it on TOP of the comments. Thanks

Are the New COVID-19 Vaccines Safe and Effective?

These “vaccines” are NOT Certified by the FDA to be safe and effective. You are being asked to take an “experimental vaccine”. You cannot (as of now) be forced to take an experimental “vaccine”.

None of the COVID-19 “vaccines” are CERTIFIED by the FDA as being safe and effective to take. You will be offered an “investigational vaccine” under a FDA Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for which the FDA makes NO unabridged claim of safety, They are OFFERED under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), NO ONE can force you to take an “investigational vaccine”

You will not be getting a FDA Certified Vaccine; you will be taking an investigational vaccine. ALL risk is YOUR risk.

None of the new COVID “vaccines” are Certified by the FDA as being safe and effective to take. In order to Certify a vaccine a well established PROCESS must be followed including several YEARS of Animal Testing. This certification Process has been found over the last 50 or so years to be REQUIRED to avoid unleashing a DISASTER on hundreds of millions of poor trusting souls. Since the Animal Testing phase of the Certification Process was not done, All of this uncertified CRAP can NEVER be Certified.

These COVID vaccines are investigational vaccines. They are authorized by the FDA under an EUA. Here is part of the EUA text.

“Use of an investigational vaccine under an EUA would not be subject to the usual informed consent requirements for clinical investigations; nevertheless, vaccine recipients will be provided a fact sheet that describes the investigational nature of the product, the known and potential benefits and risks, available alternatives, and the option to refuse vaccination. To minimize the risk that use of a vaccine under an EUA will interfere with long-term assessment of safety and efficacy in ongoing trials, it will be essential to continue to gather data about the vaccine even after it is made available under the EUA. Continued follow-up of clinical trial participants to further refine efficacy estimates, further evaluate the potential for enhanced disease and waning of immunity, and obtain additional active safety follow-up will be essential in order to ensure public confidence in a broadly administered vaccine” Emergency Use Authorization of Covid Vaccines …”  Safety and Efficacy Follow-up Considerations List of authors Philip R. Krause, M.D., and Marion F. Gruber, Ph.D

In other words you are PART of a gigantic Clinical Trial. The FDA is telling us we have no full and good evidence that this “vaccine” will not greatly harm or KILL you two, three or twenty years down the road but we FEEL you are probably at least somewhat safe. YOU however are betting your health and life on this UNKNOWN “vaccine” which we do not fully know either. If you feel the risk is in your interest you are free to get shot up.
Please read and UNDERSTAND. How many good people are going to be shot up with this needless garbage and do not UNDERSTAND the many and serious risks they are undertaking?

Where are the COVID-19 Deaths?

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_John-Hopkins-Covid-study.jpeg

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same… .”

“When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph … , this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.”

They also do not understand how FEW people (5% of “COVID-19 deaths”) are actually dying of the SARS-CoV-2 virus these “vaccines” are said to “protect” against.

Are we going to force this disaster into our pregnant mothers, babies and children like the “flu shot”. I find this difficult to believe but this whole CON-19 deadly fraud is difficult to believe.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:53 PM
Reply to  lou

Why you feel so urged to spread so much nonsence? Why you quote things that you do not even understand? Again, as in most of your comments, so many misunderstandings from your side: One example: When a vaccine is 95% efficient, it doesn’t mean that 5 % die. It only means, that 95% build a sufficient immunity against the virus. The rest, 5%, may still get infected, but for them the mortality is not higher than for those without a vaccine.
Btw, John Hopkins has removed the “study results” of Briand, since it was not reviewed and contained mistakes. You can find that easily by searching the internet: Deaths in US due to heart diseases are as high this year as last year, when you compare the 11 months so far.
Stop spreading lies and unreflected nonsense!

Halloumi
Halloumi
Dec 19, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

Pink Panther. You are utter scum. You belong in the same prison with the rest of the propaganda spreading scum. Are you one of the 110,000 people recruited by the UN to carry out such disinformation? Or are you an actual pathetic coward? If you actually believe all the official narrative then just take yourself away, wrap yourself in a little protective coward bubble and let the rest of us carry on with our lives. FU.

ScandalOfTheDay
ScandalOfTheDay
Dec 20, 2020 5:41 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

You are the one spreading nonsense. You make a point to pretend you are a math wizard by repeating the 95% effective garbage, which is utter nonsense. It is not hard to find the facts on any cold or flu virus(which is what coronavirus is) and including with sars-cov-2, the human body has almost 99% effectiveness at fighting it.
Now, even a self proclaimed math wizard like yourself can see that 99% effective is better than 95% effective from the vaccine.
Your lame attempt at flaming someone who is actually citing real research has failed.
*mic drop*
booooom

ScandalOfTheDay
ScandalOfTheDay
Dec 20, 2020 7:30 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

your hilarious comments made it onto one of the world’s biggest online gossip rags
congratulations!

lou
lou
Jan 25, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

“When a vaccine is 95% efficient, it doesn’t mean that 5 % die. It only means, that 95% build a sufficient immunity against the virus.”

Please show me the mechanics of how this works. The “flu shot” has been running this scam for decades.

“The wintertime virus [NOT Flu] season, [with its normally LOW vitamin D levels], makes us all vulnerable to [Viral NOT Flu] infections.”   Life Extension  Note understand this and you nor anyone you love will get a toxic “flu shot” EVER, EVER

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot_intro.htm

lou
lou
Dec 11, 2020 6:04 PM

Are the New COVID-19 Vaccines Safe and Effective?

These “vaccines” are NOT Certified by the FDA to be safe and effective. You are being asked to take an “experimental vaccine”. You cannot (as of now) be forced to take an experimental “vaccine”.

None of the COVID-19 “vaccines” are CERTIFIED by the FDA as being safe and effective to take. You will be offered an “investigational vaccine” under a FDA Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for which the FDA makes NO unabridged claim of safety, They are OFFERED under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), NO ONE can force you to take an “investigational vaccine”

You will not be getting a FDA Certified Vaccine; you will be taking an investigational vaccine. ALL risk is YOUR risk.

None of the new COVID “vaccines” are Certified by the FDA as being safe and effective to take. In order to Certify a vaccine a well established PROCESS must be followed including several YEARS of Animal Testing. This certification Process has been found over the last 50 or so years to be REQUIRED to avoid unleashing a DISASTER on hundreds of millions of poor trusting souls. Since the Animal Testing phase of the Certification Process was not done, All of this uncertified CRAP can NEVER be Certified.

These COVID vaccines are investigational vaccines. They are authorized by the FDA under an EUA. Here is part of the EUA text.

“Use of an investigational vaccine under an EUA would not be subject to the usual informed consent requirements for clinical investigations; nevertheless, vaccine recipients will be provided a fact sheet that describes the investigational nature of the product, the known and potential benefits and risks, available alternatives, and the option to refuse vaccination. To minimize the risk that use of a vaccine under an EUA will interfere with long-term assessment of safety and efficacy in ongoing trials, it will be essential to continue to gather data about the vaccine even after it is made available under the EUA. Continued follow-up of clinical trial participants to further refine efficacy estimates, further evaluate the potential for enhanced disease and waning of immunity, and obtain additional active safety follow-up will be essential in order to ensure public confidence in a broadly administered vaccine” Emergency Use Authorization of Covid Vaccines …”  Safety and Efficacy Follow-up Considerations List of authors Philip R. Krause, M.D., and Marion F. Gruber, Ph.D

In other words you are PART of a gigantic Clinical Trial. The FDA is telling us we have no full and good evidence that this “vaccine” will not greatly harm or KILL you two, three or twenty years down the road but we FEEL you are probably at least somewhat safe. YOU however are betting your health and life on this UNKNOWN “vaccine” which we do not fully know either. If you feel the risk is in your interest you are free to get shot up.

Please read and UNDERSTAND. How many good people are going to be shot up with this needless garbage and do not UNDERSTAND the many and serious risks they are undertaking?

Where are the COVID-19 Deaths?

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_John-Hopkins-Covid-study.jpeg

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same… .”

“When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph … , this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.”

They also do not understand how FEW people (5% of “COVID-19 deaths”) are actually dying of the SARS-CoV-2 virus these “vaccines” are said to “protect” against.

Are we going to force this disaster into our pregnant mothers, babies and children like the “flu shot”. I find this difficult to believe but this whole CON-19 deadly fraud is difficult to believe.

//:0

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 10, 2020 2:34 PM

The pandemic and the associated restrictions are causing a lot of suffering. Many die, many suffer from long-lasting complications due to the virus, the economy suffers, many lose income and jobs. This is all very bad.
But much worse than that are people like you who spread such untruths and encourage people that it is all a worldwide conspiracy. People like them are destroying the trust of many people in the science that made our civilization possible in the first place. You are like Trump, who simply denies the truth, claims the opposite, and is so very successful with his supporters. This will change the world much more for the worse than the pandemic, which will probably be over in a year or so.
You also denigrate the nurses and doctors who are on the front lines of the battle against the virus in the hospitals, who see on a daily basis what the virus and the often excessive immune response of the body are doing and are doing their best to save as many lives as possible. They are often working to exhaustion and you are making them all complicit in a worldwide conspiracy. Shame on you!
It is obvious to a scientist that you do not understand many of the concepts involved in the PCR test and therefore come to the wrong conclusions. But since you obviously have a great resistance to facts because of your reaction to PolitiFact, there is no point in explaining it to you.

Grandma B
Grandma B
Dec 13, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:55 PM
Reply to  Grandma B

If you believe the NYT in that, why you don’t now with covid? You are just picking what fits into your view.

ScandalOfTheDay
ScandalOfTheDay
Dec 20, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther
ScandalOfTheDay
ScandalOfTheDay
Dec 20, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

it actually is a worldwide conspiracy
The proof is right under your nose.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Dec 9, 2020 9:03 AM

Just to point out that PolitiFact allegedly debunked this article on July 7, however, they have not been able to respond to the rebuttal of their debunking.

Alleged debunking by PolitiFact, July 7, 2020
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/07/blog-posting/covid-19-tests-are-not-scientifically-meaningless/

Rebuttal of debunking by article authors, July 31, 2020
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/31/open-letter-refuting-politifacts-fact-check/

Not a word from PolitiFact since!

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:44 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The so called “rebuttal” of debunking is not worth a reply, since Engelbrecht and Demeter show such a lack of scientific background, it’s like when someone who can spell the word relativity wants to argue with Einstein about its validity.

Fred Harris
Fred Harris
Dec 19, 2020 1:16 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

Politifact are not a science based organisation either.

Manuel
Manuel
Dec 24, 2020 11:58 AM
Reply to  Pink Panther

The Disqualification by Adjectives that this “Paid Shill Cartoon” called Pink Panther uses to disqualify valid argumentation is the most pathetic tool in existence. It simply proves Idiocy, or that he is a Mercenary. Hope his children or future children read these comments and MAYBE they will evaluate their dad.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jan 1, 2021 6:27 AM
Reply to  Pink Panther

I was taught always to think for myself as much as possible, Pink Panther, not to look at source or credentials as first port of call but to apply my mind to the content presented before me. When it comes to virology it doesn’t take long for my eyes to glaze over and I know I need help but I also know it doesn’t necessarily have to come from acknowledged experts because experts have often been proved wrong and when it comes to hoaxing by the government it is amazing how experts will suddenly seem to lose their critical thinking skills.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

Upton Sinclair

So your argument “The so called “rebuttal” of debunking is not worth a reply, since Engelbrecht and Demeter show such a lack of scientific background …” is worthless because – even to lay people such as us – it is very, very obvious that the alleged debunking by PolitiFact is of abysmal quality and what the two authors, uncredentialled in science as they may be, say is obviously very well-researched and well-evidenced.

Vikram Singh Meena
Vikram Singh Meena
Dec 9, 2020 5:32 AM

dr Biswaroop Roy Choudhury From india …cured more than 50 thousand covid 19 positive and ili patients by the Plant based Diet with zero medicine and zero mortality with his NICE (Network of influenzacare experts) official documented

Aliston Andy
Aliston Andy
Dec 7, 2020 1:25 PM

Heart failure cannot be cured though there is a range of treatment options available to manage and improve quality of life.

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 5:29 PM

    COVID-19 IS a Crime against Humanity The Largest Crime in Human History
COVID-19 is an extension of the “logic” that gave us “Some little girls have penises and some little boys have periods.”

“The PCR test can be used to find almost anything in anybody.”   Doctor Kary B. Mullis Noble Prize in Chemistry for creating the PCR technology

“I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true.”   Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics

“This corona crisis, according to all we know today, must be renamed a Corona Scandal and those responsible for it must be criminally prosecuted and sued for criminal damages. On a political level everything must be done to make sure that no one will ever again be in a position of such power to be able to defraud humanity or to attempt to manipulate us with their corrupt agenda.”  COVID-19 IS a Crime against Humanity  Note Criminal Damages should run in the tens of TRILLIONS. Certainly at least manslaughter criminal charges are also required.

“Is there a corona panic or is there only a PCT test panic?”  COVID-19 IS a Crime against Humanity  Note the PCR test is the weak link in this Crime Against Humanity it is easily shown scientifically to not detect an active SARS-Cov-2 infection

“More than 50,000 scientists. doctors and HC professionals, as well as more than 677.319 people have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, opposing a second COVID-19 lockdown because, it’s doing much more harm than good.”   Great Barrington Declaration

“If there was any justice in the world and crime didn’t pay, everyone at the Guardian (and the BBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc.) would be locked up as accomplices to Mass Murder and enemies of humanity. There are no words available to adequately describe the scale of the crimes that still being committed. My blood boils and I am sick to my stomach that the criminals and fraudsters are still getting away with it.”  Just 14% of positive PCR tests were infectious in the UK between April and June. Media still trying to keep baseless Covid Hysteria alive

No, “Coronavirus” Hasn’t Thrown 100 Million Into Extreme Poverty…The LOCKDOWNS Did That
JOHNS HOPKINS DEVELOPS MICRO DRUGS DELIVERED BY SWAB!      Yeah like the one shoved up your nose for a PCR Test

“The PCR test can be used to find almost anything in anybody.”   Doctor Kary B. Mullis Noble Prize in Chemistry for creating the PCR technology, 

At this point in time, 04 Dec 2020, it is totally clear what we are dealing with in COVID-19 is NOT a Health Emergency. We are dealing with The Largest Crime in Human History.

“People with learning disabilities are up to 30 times more likely to die of coronavirus, according to a report by Public Health England. Experts said those aged 18-34 had a Covid fatality rate of 36.3 deaths per 100,000 people, compared to 1.2 per 100,000 in the general population.”   People with learning disabilities are up to 30 TIMES more likely to die from Covid-19, PHE study finds   Note in my forty years of investigating “vaccination” I have concluded most “learning disabilities” are an often indirect result of Vaccine Damage. So the “solution” to the COVID-19 deaths and damage is to be the same thing that CAUSED much of the deaths and damage. Folks we wake up or die.

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_learning%20disabilities.jpg

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_corona_virus.htm

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 10, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  lou

You are completely fooling yourself with quotes taken out of context only to fit into your narrative. The exceeding mortality even in tropical countries not knowing flu seasons is a clear sign that there is a pandemy going on. It is nothing compared to the devastating spanish flu 100 years ago, but it killed for example more americans than WWI.
Any time in a country the positive PCR test rate is going up, the hosplitalizations increase and death rates too. What is here not to understand, if you are willing to accept simple facts?
If the PCR test is showing too many positives, why still 75-95% are negative?
Of course the economic damage due to the restrictions is huge, but if nothing is done, the death rates may get as high as the spanish flu, since about 90% of the world population is not yet infected.
Fact check my comment in fall 2021 for this: Till then, almost everything is back to normal, no restrictions any more (at least in democratic countries), most people immune thanks to vaccinations.

lou
lou
Dec 11, 2020 6:15 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

“The exceeding mortality even in tropical countries not knowing flu seasons is a clear sign that there is a pandemy going on.”

Sir please show your data.

I have.

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_John-Hopkins-Covid-study.jpeg

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same… .”

“When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph … , this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.”

They also do not understand how FEW people (5% of “COVID-19 deaths”) are actually dying of the SARS-CoV-2 virus these “vaccines” are said to “protect” against.

Craig Austin
Craig Austin
Nov 30, 2020 3:06 PM

Make copies before the book burners arrive.

Isai Beltran
Isai Beltran
Nov 15, 2020 8:50 AM

This is a damn good article. Ive been deep in this subject and am surprised I hadn’t come across this sooner. Really puts everything into one neat little article. Thank you guys!

Daniel
Daniel
Nov 1, 2020 10:35 AM

For the people asking which agent can cause COVID-19 symtoms supposing is not SARS-COV-2 virus. I can say that many agents can imbalance heavily the immune system and cause alterations in circulatory system. Surprisingly for me just a few people seems to be aware about the risks of electromagnetic radiation, and here I am not talking about these “conspiracy” theories about 5G, (which as far as I know it is not really deployed in almost any country in the most ambitious definition of 3GPP). I am talking about there are a few experimental studies that show clearly how with the proper radiation in terms of frequency, power, and pulse pattern can be caused in the human body the same symtoms as COVID-19 has, including: microvascular damage, cell apoptosis, kupffer cell activation, altered cytokine expression and immune response modulation. These effects occur using non-ionizing radiation (microwaves) and are considered non-thermal effects.

Cecelia Doucette
Cecelia Doucette
Nov 9, 2020 9:11 PM
Reply to  Daniel

Thank you, Daniel, for raising the wireless radiation issue. Please know there will be an international medical conference on this January 28-31. World leading scientists and doctors who specialize in non-thermal electromagnetic fields (EMFs) of radiofrequency radiation will educate on how to recognize, diagnose, treat and prevent microwave illnesses. The symptoms, as you note, are similar to many of the COVID-19 symptoms. The science is clear that today’s wireless radiation hits the immune system especially hard, and the nervous system, and dysregulates our circadian rhythm. Although this is a medical conference, because it’s had to be moved to an on-line platform, the public is welcome to register at a reduced rate to learn about this critical issue too: https://emfconference2021.com/

Robert
Robert
Nov 1, 2020 4:05 AM

This article asserts that the PCR tests to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2 (which causes Covid-19) is scientifically meaningless. The solution is to avoid using the PCR tests and to create a Gold Standard test to diagnose whether a patient has Covid-19 or not.

This article does not claim that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exists nor does it deny that the genome of the SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced.

This is because if the SARS-CoV-2 virus does NOT exist then which pathogen is causing Covid-19 which, so far, has sickened 46 million people around the world and have killed 1.2 million, according to statistics from the John Hopkins Hospital?

Sean Drake
Sean Drake
Nov 13, 2020 9:57 PM
Reply to  Robert

Is this the same John Hopkins that sponsored Event 201 last October?

waterfront4rmi
waterfront4rmi
Dec 1, 2020 9:38 AM
Reply to  Robert

oh come on man….you gotta admit the covid is the cure for the flu.

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 5:46 PM
Reply to  Robert

“The solution is to avoid using the PCR tests and to create a Gold Standard test to diagnose whether a patient has Covid-19 or not.”

COVID-19 is NOT a disease but mostly a compendium of statistically contrived deaths. It is easy to show the “COVID-19 deaths” are not actula deaths. Just look at Total Mortality; if the “COVID-19 Deaths” were actual deaths, Total Mortality MUST have increased over the baseline.

CDC Data: Total Mortality from 02/01/2020 to 09/05/2020  Note please observe the Total Mortality has remained almost exactly the SAME. Although we had over 130,000 “COVID-19 deaths”

“After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_John-Hopkins-Covid-study.jpeg

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same… .”

“When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.”

Folks please reread and observe until you completely UNDERSTAND how this Deadly Fraud is being constructed. A LOT of highly Authoritative people in high CDC and government positions HAD to cooperate to achieve this ILLUSION of death. Tens of millions of lives are being extinguished and harmed. WHY? The “Great Reset” folks; the “Great Reset”. 

Now I do suspect the recently given “flu shots” may have injected some actual deaths into the mix. We may see this when these total Mortality data are released; if the HONEST MORTALITY DATA is released.

I must thank from the bottom of my heart the HONEST people compiling the Total Mortality data; pray for these good people I am afraid they are going to come under TREMENDOUS political pressure to falsify the raw Total Mortality data.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Oct 31, 2020 7:43 PM

Very sad to read that, since you are misunderstanding so many things. You make so obvious that you are lacking the proper education on this matter. One example: The SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced completely and from this the PCR-Test has been made as a fingerprint. Positive PCR tests are regularly tested by sequencing the whole RNA and until today, all have been verified as being the SARS-CoV-2.
You are just riding these ridiculous conspiracy theories. Luckily after this pandemic your lies will be obvious.

Donald Hoffman
Donald Hoffman
Nov 1, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

maybe the kool aide you’re drinking will be the new cure

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
Nov 2, 2020 12:23 AM
Reply to  Pink Panther

And your expertise on this matter and qualifications to comment on other posts herein is based on what level of education and proof of such?

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

“The SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced completely and from this the PCR-Test has been made as a fingerprint.”

NO!

“The PCR test can be used to find almost anything in anybody.”   Doctor Kary B. Mullis Noble Prize in Chemistry for creating the PCR technology, 

Are you telling me the man who INVENTED PCR Technology does not know what he is talking about but your uncredentialed propaganda does?

As our half brained “Pres elect” says Come on man.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 10, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  lou

You do not understand what Mullis meant with that. The PCR test in general can be made to find almost anything. But a specific PCR test is ALWAYS made exactly to find something very specific. A single PCR test does not find everything, only what it is supposed to find (if it exists and not too many cycles are run). In this case, it was made for SARS-CoV-2.

lou
lou
Dec 11, 2020 6:20 PM
Reply to  Pink Panther

“The SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced completely and from this the PCR-Test has been made as a fingerprint.”

Sir please show your data AND your supporting peer reviewed scientific papers.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:22 PM
Reply to  lou
Purple Panther
Purple Panther
Dec 27, 2020 12:23 AM
Reply to  Pink Panther

You’ve set up a really great straw man. Did you even read this article that you’re commenting on? Sequencing some genetic material is not at issue. Isolating a virus and proving that it causes a specific disease is. You can test all the RNA you want and find as many millions and billions of cases you want. It doesn’t prove that something called “SARS-CoV-2” causes something called “COVID-19”.

Raffaele Attanasio
Raffaele Attanasio
Oct 26, 2020 8:30 AM

Grazie mille per il meraviglioso servizio di informazione che svolgete. La stampa libera in Italia non esiste più.

Klaus K.
Klaus K.
Oct 22, 2020 1:01 AM

There is another study here (preprint), claiming they isolated the virus:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/

Dejoos
Dejoos
Oct 25, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  Klaus K.

Klaus, did you even read the full article and the thread of comments below before posting your link? In the abstract they are telling you that they used Vero cells…

Purple Panther
Purple Panther
Dec 27, 2020 12:35 AM
Reply to  Dejoos

And. The article is still in preprint. 9 months later.

lou
lou
Oct 12, 2020 6:31 PM

https://youtu.be/kr04gHbP5MQ

“This corona crisis, according to all we know today, must be renamed a Corona Scandal and those responsible for it must be criminally prosecuted and sued for criminal damages. On a political level everything must be done to make sure that no one will ever again be in a position of such power to be able to defraud humanity or to attempt to manipulate us with their corrupt agenda.”  COVID-19 IS a Crime against Humanity  Note Criminal Damages should run in the tens of TRILLIONS. Certainly at least manslaughter criminal charges are also required.

“Is there a corona panic or is there only a PCT test panic?”  COVID-19 IS a Crime against Humanity  Note the PCR test is the weak link in this Crime Against Humanity it is easily shown scientifically to not detect an active SARS-Cov-2 infection

“More than 16000 scientists and doctors, as well as more than 150,000 people have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, opposing a second COVID-19 lockdown because, according to them, it’s doing much more harm than good.”   Great Barrington Declaration
At this point in time, 10 Oct 2020, it is totally clear what we are dealing with in COVID-19 is NOT a Health Emergency. We are dealing with The Largest Crime in Human History.
    

  • The total DAMAGE from Government policy far EXCEEDS, by many times, the damage from the health consequences from COVID-19
  • We are basing our government policy, our economic policy and are restricting our basic human rights on completely wrong data and assumptions on the corona virus. If it were not for the “test results” that are daily reported in the corrupt MSM then it would be over because basically nothing really happened.
  • Do the so called anti-corona measures such as the lockdowns, face masks, social distancing and quarantining serve to protect the world’s population from corona or do they serve other agendas? Item one on the agenda it to create FEAR.
  • The anti-corona measures whose only basis is the incorrect PCR test have harmed innumerable human lives and have destroyed the economic existence of countless companies and individuals world wide.
  • The PCR Test is being used used on the basis of false statements by highly placed health authorities, not based on scientific facts with respect to infection.
  • A positive PCR Test does not mean any infection in present in the person tested. About 90% of positive tests are FALSE POSITIVES with no SARS-CoV-2 infection present in the tested person.
  • The test information coming with the PCR test kits state they are not to be used for diagnostic purposes. The CDC states the same thing, as does the inventor of the PCR method Doctor Mullis.
  • The mortality of corona is equivalent to that of the seasonal flu,
  • COVID-19 has not caused any excess morality anywhere in the world.
  • The German Government was massively lobbied by by the world’s Big Health Care establishment?
  • The German Government’s Interior Dept has published a report stating the population was deliberately driven to panic by politicians and the media. The honest person responsible for this important report was FIRED by the German government. This show the corruption and crimes includes the German government. This firing of honest people for speaking truth about CON-19 is occurring in large entities all over the world.
  • Our, we the people, only out of this CON-19 is to LOSE our FEAR of CON-19 and call out all the clowns promoting this FEAR. The best way to begin to do this is to learn a little about the fraudulent “PCR test”. All else will follow,
JohnJonez
JohnJonez
Oct 29, 2020 9:34 PM
Reply to  lou

video is gone anyone can link to a copy of it? dont even bother putting stuff on youtube anymore unless you speak in code and mention nothing about covid in the title, they’re heavily censoring the truth.

tim
tim
Nov 7, 2020 7:09 PM
Reply to  JohnJonez

youtube.com / watch?v=uQuYwJ-fjfY

SzymonMazury
SzymonMazury
Oct 10, 2020 7:28 PM

Maybe explanation here is too vague. I am still not convinced that “SARS-CoV-2 RNA is based on faith”.

So what is the RNA sequence they isolated called Sars-Cov2 and look for?
They compare it with Sars-Cov like here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.16.951723v1.full.pdf
What are they comparing there?

“In other words, the existence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA is based on faith, not fact.”
They sequenced it independently in a few labs coming up with a similar sequence from i am guessing difference samples. So how is it unreal? What RNA with this particular sequence are they analysing & how come is it not a virus if they can find similarities and differences between it and Sars-Cov virus? Is Sars-Cov virus also not existing? If not what killed the people in Asia when there was the Sars outbreak?

They also talk about differences in Spike protein. What RNA are they comparing there if Sars-Cov2 is not?

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.976167v1.full
“Nucleic acids were prepared from infected cellular material, following inactivation with linear acrylamide and ethanol. RNA was extracted from a modest cell pellet (~200mg) using manually prepared wide-bore pipette tips and minimal steps to maintain RNA length for long read sequencing, and a QIAamp Viral RNA Mini Kit (Qiagen, Hilden, Germany). Carrier RNA was not added to Buffer AVL, with 1% linear acrylamide (Life Technologies, Carlsbad, CA, USA) added instead. Wash buffer AW1 was omitted from the purification stage, with RNA eluted in 50 μl of nuclease free water, followed by DNase treatment with Turbo DNase (Thermo Fisher Scientific, Waltham, MA, USA) 37°C for 30 min. RNA was cleaned and concentrated to 10 μl using the RNA Clean & Concentrator-5 kit (Zymo Research, Irvine, CA, USA), as per manufacturer’s instructions.” (…) “Characterisation of SARS-CoV-2 subgenome-length mRNA architectureDirect RNA reads passing the above thresholds were aligned to the genome of the cultured Australian SARS-COV-2 isolate (MT007544.1), with parallel and concordant analyses in Geneious Prime (2019.2.1, []) and minimap2 v 2.11 using the “spliced” preset []. Coverage statistics were determined from the resulting read alignments.”

What is the RNA they sequenced here? How is it not a virus. How is it not Sars-cov2. And if it is not it what is it then?


“And although they claim “virologists at the Charité are sure that they are testing for the virus,” in their paper (Corman et al.) they state:

RNA was extracted from clinical samples with the MagNA Pure 96 system (Roche, Penzberg, Germany) and from cell culture supernatants with the viral RNA mini kit (QIAGEN, Hilden, Germany),”

Which means they just assumed the RNA was viral.
Incidentally, the Corman et al. paper, published on January 23, 2020 didn’t even go through a proper peer review process, nor were the procedures outlined therein accompanied by controls — although it is only through these two things that scientific work becomes really solid.””

The RNA is what? A matter of belief or a real thing? It probably has a sequence, the one possible to compare with Sars-Cov sequence or with other coronaviruses. If they sequenced something else wouldn’t they see it wasn’t a virus? Others wouldn’t debunk their sequence as something not being a virus or similar to other coronavirus?
So what it didn’t even go through a paper peer review. Did your article went such a peer review? How are we going to believe it – just as a matter of our belief?

It doesn’t matter if it was viral or not. But it repeats in sick people. Correlation isn’t a causation but it is enough of a way to find the diseases people to some degree of certainty.

Maybe write something what samples are they testing too.
They found 40 versions of the virus or so. What the sequences are? Not a virus? A random similar RNA from a randomly sick people?

Correct me if i am wrong.

lou
lou
Oct 12, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  SzymonMazury

“I am still not convinced that “SARS-CoV-2 RNA is based on faith”.”

This is not our fundamental problem. Let us assume for arguments sake such an RNA does exist.

It has not been shown in a scientific peer reviewed paper that what ever it is that the SARS-Cov-2 RT-PCR test tests “positive” for is contained in an active SARS-Cov-2 infection present in the body of the tested person.

This must be scientifically demonstrated for the SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR test to be meaningful.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  SzymonMazury

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7272567/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0997-y
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(03)13414-9.pdf
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/how-sars-cov-2-tests-work-and-whats-next-in-covid-19-diagnostics-67210
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/12/8/895/pdf
https://genomemedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13073-020-00751-4

You are surely no virologist and obviously no scientist either, since you are simply puzzled by the honest language of scientists. But the links above should give you enough evidence about the fact that the virus has been sequenced completely, so it’s now easy to even detect mutations very fast, and more important in this whole context, that the PCR test is based on complete sequence of the virus.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 16, 2020 2:29 AM
Reply to  Pink Panther

Many argue that sequencing the virus can be achieved using different methods, some more reliable than others, which is potentially very different from physically isolating the virus, and very different again from establishing Koch’s postulates, or a similar criteria, in order to establish that a given virus is the causative agent for a specific disease.

Whether you consider this question a central requirement to establishing the basic science (which many claim is mystifyingly absent) behind the alleged ‘pandemic’ or whether you consider it merely a quibble, opinions are often divided along a line dissecting those who question the official covid narrative, and those who do not. Those supporting the official narrative see this question as rather redundant, since they claim to see indisputable evidence of a major viral threat decimating the world. Those who are skeptical of the official narrative claim that evidence of decimation is appallingly lacking, including evidence that a virus is the perpetrator, and claim that a firm scientific basis is needed in order to safely manufacture a vaccine (should one be necessary) and in order to meaningfully distinguish deaths caused by a specific disease (with extremely generic symptoms) from deaths caused by (and reassigned due to) other reasons – eg. changes in health protocol, lockdowns, shutdown of care/economy, and excessive levels of fear generated by and perpetuated by the media and authorities.

In order to start unpicking this mess, a firm basis in science is a good start, many argue.

Many are puzzled by how little is claimed to be known about this alleged deadly virus – reasonable evidence it causes the generic disease (which might justify diagnosis by test alone); who can transmit it and when; the mechanical process of transmission; whether immunity (the basis for vaccination) is lasting or not; who is actually dying of it and (therefore) how deadly it actually is (especially since the epidemiology appears to say it isn’t that deadly) – while at the same time (and paradoxically) so many absolute certainties are being claimed, especially by media outlets and public figures unqualified to makes such assertions.

It strikes many that there’s some sort of pathology at work, at the very least.

lou
lou
Oct 6, 2020 7:28 PM

COVID-19 Treatment BOMBSHELL 18,000 IU/day of common vitamin D3

What’s new is that vitamin D also works in the acute context. You want magic bullets? We got a handful now!

5 years ago a GP in Edmonton reported dramatic effects on influenza – “complete resolution of symptoms in 48 to 72 hours” from giving 50-60,000 IU of vitamin D3 [8]. Now a new study reports a similar effect on Covid-19.

The new study, from Cordoba in Spain [9], looked at 76 patients admitted to hospital with signs of both Covid-19 and an acute respiratory infection. 26 patients had only the hospital’s standard care; 50 of them were given vitamin D as well. The form used was the 25-hydroxy D3, the more active form and the one that is usually measured in blood tests. The dose, given on days 1, 3 and 7, so over one week in effect, was equivalent to 128,000 IU in a week or 18,000 units every day of ordinary vitamin D3. This was a big dose, but not dangerous – see below.

What was the outcome? Here’s the graph. In the control group 50% of patients needed transfer to intensive care units; in the 25 (OH) D group only 2% – one patient out of 50.

https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=82161242827b703e6acf9c726942a1e4.179&s=d1c1003fe30b50c4fa14275f74909dd1

BZQA
BZQA
Oct 5, 2020 10:25 AM

So, what then does “tests are scientifically meaningless” imply for the current positive test(s) by the President? Does he have it or not? Is there cause for concern or not?

lou
lou
Oct 16, 2020 8:52 PM
Reply to  BZQA

For every 100 people who test positive 90 of those will be a false positive,. If you choose 100 people who walk by you on the street at least 10 will have “symptoms” of COVID-19. So what is the difference? Why test at all.

Trump was very overworked and badly needed a rest; he apparently was suffering an infection of some sort.

soli
soli
Oct 25, 2020 11:23 AM
Reply to  lou

That is the point. Why test. When you have no idea what you are testing for. Maybe we should ask Bill Gates and his employee Tedros , who has been placed as head of Rockefeller’s WHO. Well we have the mix out here. Rockefeller, Tedros , Gates, maybe China’s Wuhan. And you are talking about a test.Well, they are just testing your IQ. If tomorrow morning they tell you “Sorry guys, this was just an exercise, a joke “, you will just laugh it off. THEY just want to have a little fun with you !

You will not let it go. Why are so many people dead ? Are they? Do you really want to find out ? Catch a cold. Get hypnotiszd that you have SARS covid-2. You must be real scared by this time. Then they take multiple tests (PCR, antibody, whatever ) and tell you you may not live. You are strapped tight to a bed, with a tight mask to go with it. You cannot get up to go to the bathroom, or just walk around. You sleep on your left or right . But you are forced to sleep on your back. Your breath feels heavy. All windows are shut tight. You see the person next to you having a pseudo cyto kine storm. You are getting fearful. Even your breathing seems to be difficult. You are not very old. But then who knows. The wifi is on in the hospital , going full blast. ( heavens forbid that this is 5G ). You are not comfortable. You would like to get up and run and keep running. Pinch yourself. It was a dream. Not so . The THEY are here . You need a respirator ( it means $39,000 gain of function ) to the hospital. These people look as though they have come from Mars. You must have a contagious disease. Otherwise they would not act so abnormally. They tie you up to this ventilator ( Bennet , I believe ). They turn those controls up ( Tedros told us to use these settings ) Damn it . Now you really cannot breathe !! Now is the time to pull all this garbage off, get off the bed, maneover yourself out of the hospital and RUN for it RUN and keep running How many people have the personal power to do what you have just done? Not many. That is what the deaths are due to. Can the old do what you just did. No. They will die. The Bennett will create a cytokine storm in a normal person if improperly adjusted. That is if it is adjusted to the settings which the WHO recommends. Are you getting it. THIS IS COVID-19. Bill Gates ! What the bloody hell are you up to man. For who are you doing this . Don’t you have kids ?”For the good of humanity ” ?? For the good of humanity 2.0. We had such a love and high regard for you at one time. With all the great work you did in the software world. You have been misled. Rap it up man. Cut it out. Tell them “Yes , it was a joke “. People are really, truly searching for a virus. Any virus will do for covid-19. Or with the PCR test, viral particles. Just 30 in 30,000 is OK ?!

lou
lou
Oct 31, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  soli

“Well we have the mix out here. Rockefeller, Tedros , Gates, maybe China’s Wuhan. And you are talking about a test.Well, they are just testing your IQ.”

This is a quick summary of what we have NOW.

I am afraid we are to see new more lethal forms of the SARS-CoV-2 Bio Weapon at some point. All will “test” as the same thing of course.

There are a few twists I feel are probable.

o SARS-CoV-2 virus enters the cell via the ACE2 cell receptor. Many Big Pharma DRUGS for serious health conditions also use this ACE2 gate into the cell. It is quite possible this may explain the slight increase in lethality over the average corona virus and several other anomalous characteristics of SARS-CoV-2,

o Most important this may explain the worrisome poor health some victims report for many months AFTER their “COVID-19” has been “cured”; as the poor victims continue to take their Big Pharma Poisons.

o It is very probable IMO that our wonderful “flu shot” is playing an important part in this deadly hoax. IMO NO NEEDLES of any sort.

o Whatever it is we are to see in this MULTI-YEAR deadly hoax on mankind will have been well tested in third world countries by our savior Bill “kill em” Gates and his gang of UN Approved criminals.

o As long as we continue to TRUST our health to Big Pharma Poisons and many dishonest people we will be vulnerable to many deadly hoaxes both visible and invisible.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_depopulation.htm.

Edwardo
Edwardo
Nov 1, 2020 12:44 PM
Reply to  lou

Bill Gates of Hell you mean.

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  Edwardo

I ran into a new version of doc evil’s name. Baal Gates.

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  soli

Just a bunch of bullshit. You have not ONE SINGLE PROOF for any of your statements about Gates and Tedros and all those theories.
But surprise, I know you who you are, and I know is that you had a huge car accident 2 years ago, which resulted in a big head injury. The consequence is gaps in memory and difficulty in drawing the simplest logical conclusions. This is why you have lost your job and are depending on welfare. Maybe sometimes you forget that, and then bullshit like this comes out.

soli
soli
Oct 25, 2020 11:26 AM
Reply to  lou

Trump has the personal power. See the way he takes that mask off. I will vote for you Donald. Just for the way you take that mask off. The way you take that mask off says a lot !

Pink Panther
Pink Panther
Dec 15, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  lou

And where is this data from? Seems you know of a method that can verify PCR test positivity? What type of test is that? Who did do these verifications? Paper? Data?
You are so wrong with all your claims: You demand bulletproof data (which is okay) but you throw around your own theories without substance and evidence.

John
John
Oct 4, 2020 7:02 PM

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. This article is all over the place.

MTAB
MTAB
Oct 2, 2020 10:20 AM

“If they could find this virus in you at all, and with PCR if you do it well you can find almost anything in anybody. It’s starts making you believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else, right I mean cause if you can amply one single molecule up to something which you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there’s just very few molecules that you don’t have at least one single one of in your body. OK. So that can be thought of as a misuse of it, just to claim that it’s meaningful….Those tests are all based on things that are invisible and the results are inferred in a sense. PCR is separate from that. It’s just a process that is used to make a whole lot of something out of something. It doesn’t tell you that you are sick and it doesn’t tell you that the thing that you ended up with really was going to hurt you or anything like that.”
Kerry Mullis, Inventor of the PCR, Nobel Prize Winner in Chemistry, talking about PCR and its use as a diagnostic tool for HIV. Mullis died last year before the start of the COVID-19 crisis. 

mateo
mateo
Oct 25, 2020 2:44 AM
Reply to  MTAB

Hey, do you know when he said this, which video/interview it was from.. easier to show people the video then the text. Thanks!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 24, 2020 6:54 AM

PolitiFact have made a truly laughable attempt at debunking this excellent article. I’ve debunked their debunking – certainly didn’t take much effort.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/07/blog-posting/covid-19-tests-are-not-scientifically-meaningless/

https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/debunking-the-debunkers-pcr-tests-scientifically-meaningless

John Doe
John Doe
Sep 25, 2020 4:34 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Politifact receives more than 5% of its funding from Facebook. Nice way to phrase it on Politifact website in the about us section.
Politifact…you’re the biggest fraud here.
Pants on fire….go fuck yourself!

Torsten Engelbrecht
Torsten Engelbrecht
Sep 26, 2020 10:15 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Dear Petra! Thank you very much! Have you seen our rebuttal of the PolitiFact “”hooey” publiches by the OffGuardian as an open letter, see https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/31/open-letter-refuting-politifacts-fact-check/ Torsten (author of this article?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 26, 2020 11:45 AM

Hi Torsten, No, unfortunately, I didn’t see your rebuttal because I certainly would not have gone to the effort of publishing my pathetic effort on my website if I had of course! How embarrassing. I will remove mine and publicise yours as much as possible. Thanks for letting me know.

Torsten Engelbrecht
Torsten Engelbrecht
Sep 26, 2020 1:31 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Thank you Petra, for your response! But why not leaving your rebuttal as well? Anyway, thank you again for debunking PolitiFact’s “hooey.” 😉

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 26, 2020 1:57 PM

Yes, I suppose I could simply leave it with a link to yours at the top with an explanation. Thank you so much for your fantastic, thoroughly-researched work. I didn’t trust anything else fully (so much controlled opposition out there) until I saw your article and was very annoyed I missed it when it first appeared in OffG and only saw it nearly two months later when it was referred to in a comment.

Badger Down
Badger Down
Oct 18, 2020 8:12 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Petra, please leave your rebuttal. It’s nice and simple and clear. We’re not all biosciblo experts.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 18, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  Badger Down

Thanks, Badger Down. I’ve left it with a recommendation to read theirs.

Philip
Philip
Nov 8, 2020 11:51 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Seriously you two (Petra and Badger) thank you for leaving both, I am off to read Petra’s rebuttal which I did not know of until I had read Badger’s. I have had “Covid19) or whatever it is (read what ever I had) and well …. if it had not been for the media hysteria, would not have even known I was sick, tested positive 6 times so far, …. don’t know if they went to the same labs or not.

Fran
Fran
Nov 4, 2020 9:39 PM

Mr. Torsten I really liked your article. I think this has to be known, it cannot remain hidden, but I have a question regarding the questions you asked the researchers who claimed to have isolated the virus, how can we know that their answers were the ones in the article? Are they confidential? I say this because if we want to publicize this article we must be prepared to give testable arguments. Although if it is an email conversation, I understand that there must be privacy.

Torsten Engelbrecht
Torsten Engelbrecht
Nov 5, 2020 10:35 AM
Reply to  Fran

Dear Fran! Thanks for your comment. I can assure 100% that these answers have been sent to me in exactly the way we have presented them in our article. If these answers are used in a legal process, for example, I am more than willing to disclose the corresponding emails. I hope this helps. Torsten

Fran
Fran
Nov 8, 2020 12:21 PM

Very grateful Mr Torsten for your reply. Hopefully we can handle this.
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com

Dean Michael Jackson
Dean Michael Jackson
Sep 18, 2020 8:45 AM

Medical masks worn by surgical staff:

“This product is not a respirator and will not provide any protection against COVID-19 coronavirus or any other viruses or contaminants.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=masks+labels&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=0Y2DCNHKqJYq2M%252CPJRa6LCEvbFqSM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRKe-d4kXM6-fm-rvuvvJuql_38vA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0yoXIl_LrAhWIlXIEHR_aAA0Q9QF6BAgJEEw&biw=1920&bih=937#imgrc=3jVIaw13x89d5M

A more resilient (and expensive) multi-layered mask: 

“This mask does not remove the risk of contracting any disease or infection.”

Got the picture, ladies and gentlemen?

Ches Power
Ches Power
Nov 1, 2020 6:06 PM

Here’s a scanning electron micrograph of a one day old surgical mask. No wonder “bacterial pneumonias are on the rise all over the world” according to Dr James Meehan. comment image
It would be ironic is some of those covid admissions to hospital are due to mask contamination!

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  Ches Power

“It would be ironic is some of those covid admissions to hospital are due to mask contamination!”

I believe this is EXACTLY the PLAN. Masks for example force people to inhale CO2; doing this all day is going to produce a LOT of disease that will not be traced back to the masks but will be blamed on COVID-19.

Not to mention the MASSIVE damage that will ultimately result from the totally useless “COVID-19 vaccinations”

Dr Ra
Dr Ra
Sep 10, 2020 11:10 PM

Indeed, and it makes me wonder, *having not proven it exists* according to the scientific method for doing so … what exactly are all the Drug companies making a Vaccine for exactly ? ? ?

Guy
Guy
Oct 13, 2020 1:15 AM
Reply to  Dr Ra

The short answer is ,to make obscene amount of money .

soli
soli
Oct 25, 2020 11:32 AM
Reply to  Dr Ra

Good question. If fact Great question. If they did not make vaccines they would have to ….. join those decent folks on the side walk of NY who have been thrown out of their homes. Satan say: ” You are either with US or you will eat dust “. Choose !

Vegas59
Vegas59
Sep 9, 2020 10:03 PM

This is simply the largest fraud in human civilization history.

lou
lou
Sep 20, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  Vegas59

We do NOT have a Serious Health Problem; We have a Global POLITICAL PROBLEM

COVID-19 Fatality Rate “Worst Miscalculation” in Human History

“Results of this critical appraisal reveal information bias and selection bias in coronavirus mortality overestimation, most likely caused by misclassifying an influenza infection fatality rate as a case fatality rate.” … Dr. Brown added that CDC and WHO documents show that the case fatality rate for influenza was similar to the coronavirus, implying that the lockdowns were pointless. His paper questions why the 2017-2018 influenza season in the United States did not “receive the same intensive media coverage as COVID-19.”   COVID-19 Fatality Rate “Worst Miscalculation” in Human History

“Think about the chances of being hospitalized [from COVID-19] . The study found a 50- to-64- year-old individual who has a single random contact has, typically, a 1 in 852,000 opportunity of being hospitalized or a 1 in 19.1 million possibility of dying based upon rates as of the recently of May. We were surprised how low the relative threat was,”   Doctor Rajiv Bhatia Stanford, and Doctor Jeffrey Klauser UCLA  Note A 2017 report from the National Security Council calculated the chances of an individual passing away in an automobile crash at 1-in-114 and dying from a lightning strike at 1-in-161,856 That’s over a lifetime.

“COVID is old people. Period. No virus necessary. They’re all suffering from long-term, multiple, serious health conditions. They’ve all been treated, for years, with toxic medical drugs. They’re terrified at the possibility of a COVID diagnosis. Then they are diagnosed with COVID. Then they’re isolated and cut off from family and friends. And they die. NO VIRUS NECESSARY. And THAT makes the recent CDC revelation about death numbers more relevant than most people can fathom. The CDC states that only 6 percent of all US COVID deaths have been unambiguously caused by a virus alone. The other 94 percent are overwhelmingly the old people I just described.”   Memo to Dr. Scott Atlas, new White House coronavirus advisor

The CDC is Falsifying the COVID-19 Death Numbers: Search for “Phony COVID-19 Death Numbers”. 94% (CDC Aug 2020) of those claimed to be SARS COV-2 deaths died of heart attacks, blunt force trauma, diabetes, blood problems, and all the other causes of the 7500 deaths that occur each day in America. They died WITH SARS CoV-2, not FROM SARS Cov-2. Note they probably had MANY other viruses in their bodies. If we tested for all the known viruses we could see this.

Very few, an unknown usually misrepresented number of people are dying FROM SARS-CoV-2 and only SARS-CoV-2; People are dying WITH SARS-CoV-2; many of these people likely have many other viruses in their bodies; that is the simple truth. Our “trusted” health care institutions have been lying to us with purpose. What is that purpose? FEAR, fear and more fear. Fear is required to implement the Political Objectives of this PLANDEMIC. The Biggest CON of CON-19 is that we are dying in large numbers from this FRAUD.
    
Here are the CON-19 FACTS

  • SARS-CoV-2 is the virus; a Bio Weaponized virus, assumed to cause COVID-19
  • COVID-19 is a SYNDROME of diseases assumed to be caused by SARS-CoV-2
  • A Syndrome is a cluster of diseases of UNKNOWN cause or causes
  • There is no peer reviewed Scientific evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is the CAUSE of COVID-19
  • We have no good way to test for SARS-CoV-2 presence in the human body
  • The RT-PCR test measures an UNKNOWN
  • Testing “positive” for SARS-CoV-2 is next to meaningless
  • If you “test” a person repeatedly he may bounce from “positive” to “negative” and back to “positive” in a week.
  • COVID-19 deaths have been horribly misrepresented
  • In truth SARS-CoV-2 is not much more, at this point, than a bad seasonal flu infection. I say at this point because we are in a Bio War and the weapons used on us may change.
  • Many COVID-19 “deaths” have been CREATED; CDC and WHO documents show that the case fatality rate for influenza was similar to SARS-CoV-2
  • There exist at least 3 Excellent Treatments for COVID-19 all three of these Treatments are not being used in America; the reason is political
  • The virtual banning of Hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 Treatment in the USA is a CRIME which IMO should be prosecuted. Trouble is we do not prosecute political crimes at the highest levels such as drug dealing, war and the Denial of Efficacious Disease Treatment.
  • “In all areas where HCQ is used – the United States is not one of them, thanks to Anthony Fauci and the left – the official death rate from the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) is a shocking 73 percent lower, on average, than in areas where HCQ is prohibited. When HCQ is used early, the death rate from the Wuhan coronavirus is even lower, the study reveals – up to 77.3 percent lower than in places like the U.S. and Canada where HCQ is off limits, in fact.”   Countries that used hydroxychloroquine to treat covid-19 saw a 73% lower fatality rate

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_hcq%20_case%20mortalitybycountry.png

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_corona_virus.htm

Jack Hamilton
Jack Hamilton
Sep 1, 2020 2:11 AM

FRAUD, pure and simple FRAUD! The entire vaccine industry is a HUGE FRAUD as is most of allopathic chronic healthcare medical procedures! Although acute care is quite good.

Janine Mudaliar
Janine Mudaliar
Sep 5, 2020 4:17 AM
Reply to  Jack Hamilton

Mass vaccination is not the way to co-exist with nature, when it comes to infections and illnesses. Therapy is. Scientific energy should be focused on improving therapeutic medicines and strategies.

lou
lou
Dec 4, 2020 6:42 PM

The irony here is viruses are one of the very easiest problems to PREVENT and TREAT. Our problem is our Medical INDUSTRY will not allow us to do this.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_virus_fight.htm

soli
soli
Oct 25, 2020 11:42 AM
Reply to  Jack Hamilton

Now we are on the same frequency. If you had a loved one die of cancer, you will realize that the whole Rockefeller mafia is just that. A Mafia. As you see your loved one being murdered, stage by stage. And all the time thinking that I was an idiot who knew nothing as to what they were doing. Well the doctors are FDA trained. And the FDA is a scam. Once you realize as to how the human body functions. Covid-19 is cancer written in capital letters. Only difference is that they are in a hurry to see you dead

Brent Smith
Brent Smith
Aug 30, 2020 6:48 PM

FYI- Facebook has blocked this article and labeled it “false information “.

None
None
Sep 2, 2020 12:03 PM
Reply to  Brent Smith

FYI- This article is absolutely full of misinformation, from soup to nuts (with an emphasis on “nuts”).

Fred
Fred
Sep 9, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  None

Whats wrong about it? Specifically?

Name
Name
Aug 30, 2020 5:06 PM

I wanted to read those instructions manuals of PCR tests, and I found that at least in one case there are two types of tests, one for research use only and other an in vitro diagnostic test (https://altona-diagnostics.com/en/products/reagents-140/reagents/realstar-real-time-pcr-reagents/realstar-sars-cov-2-rt-pcr-kit.html).

Blob
Blob
Aug 30, 2020 8:13 AM

You guys are gonna love this: The NY TImes just admitted PCR tests are misleading. The article is also on other websites, so since NYT requires login, here’s a different link.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/your-coronavirus-test-is-positive-maybe-it-shouldnt-be/ar-BB18uyA7?li=BBnb7Kz

Ivy Kim
Ivy Kim
Sep 14, 2020 10:27 PM
Reply to  Blob

I tried the link and says the page is gone. Nowadays MSM is doing a mass consorship. When you find some useful info like this(error in PCR testing), you need to download it or at least make print screen. ALL MEDIA LIE, JUST BALDLY LIE by hiding and deleting the truth!

Blob
Blob
Sep 15, 2020 12:25 AM
Reply to  Ivy Kim

It was a NY Times piece originally, and I guess was syndicated, so just look up the title and you’ll find various copies of it.

Original story link (behind pay wall):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

Another copy that doesn’t seem to have a pay wall:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/your-coronavirus-test-is-positive-maybe-it-shouldnt-be-/articleshow/77830805.cms

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 29, 2020 3:11 PM

This is a summary of the article as I understand it:

— No distinctive specific symptoms for COVID-19

— Admitted lack of gold standard test for COVID-19

— PCR test used inappropriate for viral testing (its purpose was manufacturing not testing). Clear example: Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t.

— No clear evidence of origin of RNA used in test

— Authors of scientific papers claiming isolation of virus admit that purification of virus not actually done and seasoned virologist admits lack of awareness of any paper showing purification of virus

— No evidence of what is said to be the virus, SARS-CoV-2 causing COVID-19

— Test results are irrational which would only be expected when the testing method used is against scientific testing protocol

— The test contains “q” in its name, RT-qPCR, which should stand for quantitative, however, it is admitted the test is qualitative meaning it cannot test viral load which means they cannot test how many viral particles are carried in the body. For people to be considered infected a viral load needs to be determined.

— High Cycle Quantification (Cq) values undermine validity of test and some PCR tests have high Cq values (Drosten test has 45). The inventor of the test, Kary Mullis, has this to say: “If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

— Before starting with PCR, in the case of presumed RNA viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, the RNA must be converted to complementary DNA (cDNA) with the enzyme Reverse Transcriptase—hence the “RT” at the beginning of “PCR” or “qPCR,” but this transformation process is “widely recognized as inefficient and variable,”

The above issues clearly show that there is no evidence at all to believe in either the virus, SARS-CoV-2 or the alleged illness COVID-19. The clear inference to be made is that all illness and death ascribed to COVID-19 has, in reality, another cause.

We also see strange omissions of reference to isolation of virus from alleged source, for example, from a “German traveller” in paper, Comparative pathogenesis of COVID-19, MERS and SARS in a non-human primate model (note similar glaring omission of reference to isolation of virus from alleged source, a “fatal SARS case”, in a “brief communication” published by Nature on the 2003 SARS, Koch’s postulates fulfilled for SARS virus).

This is Politifact’s laughable attempt to debunk the article.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/07/blog-posting/covid-19-tests-are-not-scientifically-meaningless/

This is my debunking of Politifact’s alleged debunking.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/debunking-the-debunkers-pcr-tests-scientifically-meaningless

Dean Michael Jackson
Dean Michael Jackson
Aug 29, 2020 8:50 AM

THE COVID-19 ‘PANTASY’ GAME HAS IMPLODED, THANKS TO THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE

[Since a pathogen called COVID-19 has never been purified(!), there is no COVID-19, obviously, thereby outing the Marxist co-opted establishment’s (1) destruction of the economy; and (2) weakening of our immune systems by (a) wearing masks that blow back into the respiratory system exhaled bacteria, viruses, and fungi; (b) the ludicrous directive to stay home that inhibits our exposure to germs that strengthen the immune system; and (3) the manic cleansing of surfaces of germs, such germs a requirement for a robust immune system.]

The New England Journal of Medicine inadvertently outs the Marxist COVID-19 ‘pantasy’ operation to destroy the public’s health by mandating masks that weaken the immune system* and lowering IQ levels:

“We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

Widespread anxiety didn’t just pop up into existence from nowhere, it resulted from intentional misinformation from the Marxist CDC and regurgitated by the Marxist co-opted political/media establishment. Naturally, there would be no desire for masking by the public unless the public were terrified by sociopath government agitation to be so terrified. 

The PCR Test Fraud: Similarity Is Proof of Nothing When Dealing With DNA, Or Anything Else for That Matter

Kary Mullis invented the PCR non-test in 1984:

“PCR detects [notice: PCR doesn’t identify a virus, it merely “detects”] a very small segment of the nucleic acid which is part of a virus itself. The specific fragment detected is determined by the somewhat arbitrary choice of DNA primers used which become the ends of the amplified fragment.“

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

See the word “arbitrary”? That’s because PCR primer design searches (called a query) for similarities between the known DNA sequence of one organism with that of another organism DNA sequence,** also called the query sequence. Similarities between DNA sequences are meaningless and thereby fraught with false positive results when PCR is used for the diagnosis of a disease. In fact, the BLAST program cannot guarantee the optimal alignments of the query and database sequences as the Smith-Waterman algorithm does; it should be noted the farcical notion of the Smith-Waterman algorithm offering ‘high optimality’ for similarities! An oxymoron if one ever existed!  

Now imagine criminal forensic science requiring only similarities for fingerprint identification! Yeah, just as with the false positive laden PCR test, 100% of the nation would be guilty of a crime every time a fingerprint check was run! Or how about DNA identification requiring only similarities?! Now one can fully appreciate the fraud behind the PCR non-test.

A pathogen’s genome is unique (that is, the complete DNA/RNA structure of the pathogen), while similar nucleotide sections can be successfully matched anywhere along a nucleotide section with base pairing primers. Similarity in nucleotide sequences does not equal ‘precisely the same genome’.

In other words, a diagnosis must first be established to identify the pathogen, which can only be accomplished by a blood culture, THEN after the pathogen is identified, one can use the PCR for treatment. Anything less is defined as misdiagnosis, which will either maim or kill the patient, explaining why so many elderly (who are prone to have underlying health issues) are dying–from medical malpractice.

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* “Germs are a necessary part of a healthy immune system, helping our body’s defenses beef up and fight future illnesses. When a person’s exposure to germs is decreased, problems may arise.

Researchers studied two kinds of mice: One group had been exposed to a normal bacteria environment, and another group that was germ-free. When scientists compared the immune systems of the two groups of mice, they found what they cited as evidence to support the hygiene hypothesis – the mice that had been exposed to microbes had stronger immune systems than the germ-free mice.

Additionally, the germ-free mice had exaggerated inflammation in their lungs and colon, similar to what is seen in humans who have asthma and ulcerative colitis. The researchers found that a particular kind of immune cell, called an invariant natural killer T cell, was particularly hyperactive in these mice.

The researchers only investigated mice, not people, but experts said the biologic mechanism they studied was similar in both rodents and humans.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/bodys-defenses-made-mightier-microbes-study/story?id=15982444

** Programs such as BLAST or FASTA locate the similar nucleotide sequences from a databank of DNA sequences.

Guy
Guy
Aug 29, 2020 3:15 PM

Thank you so much for this link .https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2020/05/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/
I thoroughly enjoyed the writing of the journalist and her interviews .Great expose of the meaningless PCR test in evaluating covid 19 .
Cheers.

Dean Michael Jackson
Dean Michael Jackson
Aug 29, 2020 6:37 PM
Reply to  Guy

What is critical to comprehend, is that when PCR is used as a test, it can only match similarities to nucleotide sections! That means it can’t identify at all. Now imagine criminal forensic science requiring only similarities for fingerprint identification! Yeah, just as with the false positive laden PCR test, 100% of the nation would be guilty of a crime every time a fingerprint check was run! Or how about forensic DNA matching requiring only similarities?! Now one can fully appreciate the fraud behind the PCR non-test.

This is a scandal that will implode the reputation of the medical community for allowing such a travesty, brought into motion by the Marxist co-opted American Medical Association.

Ivy Kim
Ivy Kim
Sep 14, 2020 10:40 PM

New England Journal is a bribed, corrupt one as it stands based on the prevelent Germ Theory viewpoint that virus,germs, bacteria are harmful to us which is not at all true. Their position is contradicted by the fact that about 10% of our body weight consist of virus and we cannot try eliminating all of them unless we risk dying.

soli
soli
Oct 25, 2020 12:20 PM

When you use the word ‘Marxist’, you are hitting the nail on the head. Marxist Tedros , the head of the WHO, a Rockefeller outfit, sworn to Eugenics, and having as its patron, none other than the computer software genius Bill Gates and in whose services Tedros, a Marxist form Ethiopia happens to be, is the conductor of the Covid-19 orchestra . Fauci sings chorus. Music Trump hates. And shows it. Covid-19 si just the excuse, the way, to the New World order. So stop getting into microbiology, all of you. How else can Gates get us to the Human 2.0 ?

Skouratof
Skouratof
Aug 24, 2020 4:03 AM

Here is a statement of the french Pasteur Institute, explaning and showing the complete ARN sequence of Covid they made base on samples taken from the first three Covid cases in France.
https://www.pasteur.fr/fr/espace-presse/documents-presse/institut-pasteur-sequence-genome-complet-du-coronavirus-sars-cov-2
That’s sounds enough for me to prove the existence of the virus. Am i missing something or what ?
And they also made a culture of the virus :
https://www.pasteur.fr/fr/espace-presse/documents-presse/institut-pasteur-isole-souches-du-coronavirus-2019-ncov-detecte-france
Best regards. Great job by the way.

Alicia Maria
Alicia Maria
Aug 24, 2020 3:58 PM
Reply to  Skouratof

You have to dig deeper into the process used by virologists when looking for a virus. This is a flawed process from the beginning and has resulted in much confusion about what a virus actually is. They do not actually purify any virus; they do not separate the “virus” particle from all other cellular / tissue debris in the sample they are working with (not to mention the FBS, antibiotics, and other additives they put in the sample during their procedures). From this un-purified sample, they identify an RNA/DNA sequence based on a previously identified primer (which comes from a viral sequence that was identified using the same flawed process). This process does not result in a full genomic sequence, however, and researchers must compare the sequence they have found with previously recorded viral sequences (equally problematic and derived in the same problematic way) and they must fill in the gaps based on their assumptions. This is hardly a valid or reliable scientific process, and essentially indicates that the field of virology is pure pseudo-science. For further information on this common practice, look into the work done by Dr. Stefan Lanka (a biologist who also used to consider himself a virologist, but now distances himself from that title as a result of the embarrassing practices they call “science”). Also, check out Dr. Eleni Papadopulous and Dr. Peter Duesberg, virologists who have publicly criticized the “science” around the so-called “discovery” of HIV.

Even deeper than the problems within the field of virology, this misconception about the microbes in our bodies and their natural life cycles stems from Germ Theory, originally proselytized by Louis Pasteur. For more information on this major flaw in modern medicine, see Antoine Bechamp and his Terrain Theory for a more accurate perspective of what these particles do inside our bodies, and why they are there at all. Specifically, you can check out these books: Bechamp vs. Pasteur: A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology, and What Really Makes You Ill? Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease in Wrong.

skouratof
skouratof
Aug 24, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  Alicia Maria

Thank you, Alicia, for this complete answer. I’ll work on it, at my pace, and come back if i need to clarify some point.

Alicia Maria
Alicia Maria
Aug 25, 2020 1:16 AM
Reply to  skouratof

My pleasure. I think it’s great that you are open to further investigation. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, this is just some of the information I have gathered in my own investigations. I am continually learning and studying to enhance my understanding.

Best of luck on your own journey!

Alicia Maria
Alicia Maria
Aug 20, 2020 7:47 PM

Check out work by Dr. Stefan Lanka, a German biologist with a long history of questioning the integrity and authenticity of virology as a field and “virus hunters” as a profession. Here is a link to one of his latest articles, “The Misconception Called Virus”:
https://davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Paper-Virus-Lanka-002.pdf

Additionally, Dr. Lanka won a German Supreme Court case in 2017 demonstrating that the so-called “measles” virus does not exist:
https://www.preventdisease.com/news/17/012717_Biologist-Proves-Measles-Isnt-Virus-Wins-Supreme-Court-Case.shtml

Dr. Lanka is not alone in his claims that “viruses” are not the cause of disease – see Dr. Eleni Papadopulous and the work of her team at http://www.theperthgroup.com/, as well as Dr. Peter Duesberg, a contemporary of Robert Gallo who was de-funded and discredited for upholding his scientific integrity and daring to speak out against the mainstream narrative in the 1980’s. Additionally, you might check out the work of Jim West, Dr. Ralph Scobey, and many others who explore toxicological and environmental pollutants as the causes of diseases commonly associated with viruses and other microbes. Here is a list of websites to explore:  http://whale.to/a/infectious_scares.htmlhttp://whale.to/a/west_h.htmlhttp://harvoa.org/polio/overview.htmhttp://whale.to/a/scobey2.html#THE_PRODUCTION_OF_SO-CALLED_VIRUS_DISEASES_AND_VIRUS_INCLUSIONS_BY_POISONS_

Finally, I would recommend exploring the difference between Germ Theory and Terrain Theory. To begin this journey, I would suggest reading the book Bechamp or Pasteur: A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology. Once you open your eyes to this profound scientific misunderstanding (and obviously profitable deception), you will be forever changed in your thinking on how we define dis-ease and health.

I will warn you, this is a massive rabbit hole. I have been diving in since March this year and I have only begun to scratch the surface. Here, I have provided some of the more substantial evidence I have discovered so far, and as you explore each of these links you will find an ongoing collection of various avenues to explore. You do not need an advanced degree to follow the logic here. If you have even basic reading comprehension, you will at the very least come to the conclusion that we (as human beings, as global citizens, as modern society) don’t know nearly as much as we think we do, and we definitely do not know as much as the so-called “experts” would have us believe we do.

Never stop learning!

With love,
xoxoxo

lou
lou
Sep 23, 2020 12:39 AM
Reply to  Alicia Maria

The “germ theory of disease” is the basis of the 4 Trillion dollar/year mostly Allopathic Medical INDUSTRY. Empowering the people with the FACT that “germs” are mostly symbionts We MUST live with and if we do this in natural BALANCE all is well and toxic drugs are mostly never needed to deal with “germs”. Certainly toxic drugs are NEVER needed on a chronic basis. Yes sometimes toxic drugs are needed on an acute basis for SHORT periods of time until the acute condition is resolved.

A truly great example of this FACT is that a healthy human defecation consists of about 40% non-human DNA. These non-humans were recently living in your body. In perfect symbiosis with YOU. If they had been allowed to grow out of symbiosis they would be called “germs” LOL

ALEJANDRA
ALEJANDRA
Aug 17, 2020 10:53 PM

What it says here is false. I did practices with other viruses at the university, and with PCR.

CHRIS HUDSON
CHRIS HUDSON
Aug 22, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  ALEJANDRA

What do you mean “I did practices with other viruses at the University, and with PCR”? Did you isolate each virus you did “practices” with and were you testing for specific different viruses?

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Aug 24, 2020 2:51 PM
Reply to  ALEJANDRA

Alejandra, the fact that you used PCR and obtained certain results by no means establishes that PCR works properly or that your results were correct.

Also, it is rude to assert without any evidence that a serious paper written by two experts is “false”.

Please provide some solid evidence for your unsupported statement.

Henry
Henry
Aug 16, 2020 10:23 PM

Is it possible that the PCR test is being deployed for some nefarious reason? nanotech, micro-chip. I need a foot surgery and my gut instincts are saying ‘NO’ to the tes

lou
lou
Oct 16, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  Henry

Your gut is correct. You can only LOSE; in oh so many ways.

CHRIS HUDSON
CHRIS HUDSON
Aug 16, 2020 12:29 PM

Excellent article I have just re-read.
Can anyone enlighten me; has the virus yet been isolated and a ‘gold standard’ established or are they still using smoke and mirrors?

Bill
Bill
Aug 22, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  CHRIS HUDSON

No it has not been isolated
They are chasing the boogie man
There is no ”gold standard” for the Covid 19 test, meaning there is no purified isolation of Covid 19 to test against.

National Security Alert: COVID Tests Scientifically Fraudulent, Epidemic of False Positives
https://www.globalresearch.ca/national-security-alert-covid-tests-scientifically-fraudulent-epidemic-false-positives/5720271
They did this type of thing back in the 80’s

They used the same tests for HIV as they do for Covid.
The ones who died from HIV, died because of the deadly drugs they were given. AZT would kill any healthy person. It is a Chemo drug and it destroys your immune system. Oh and that looks just like AIDS would. I call that murder.
Fauci was also in on the that one as well as Redfield and Gallo.Redfield got millions to come up with a vaccine. No vaccine ever came to be. He was just one who got tons of money. Look at all the money today going to Covid vaccines. All for a bogus virus yet again. Drug companies made billions off of the victims of the HIV scam. Check the Testing section. Always follow the money. Who profits??????
http://www.aliveandwell.org/

Why I Began Questioning HIV
Five people (Below) provide their account of why they began to question the HIV = AIDS = Death medical model:

Dr. Kary Mullis invented the (PCR test) Polymerase Chain Reaction
Dr. Rodney Richards
Neville Hodgkinson
Dr. Christian Fiala
Rian Malan


CHRIS HUDSON
CHRIS HUDSON
Aug 22, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  Bill

Thank you Bill.

The information is interesting. I have not spent a great deal of time researching HIV/AIDS but I have subliminally sceptical for many years. This scepticism was intuitive rather than data based as I have never spent time studying it.

Back in the 80s when it became a cause celebre I found the propositions bizarre and ill considered. The spread to the heterosexual community with the apocalyptic forecasts seemed absurd, unless both annal sex and extreme promiscuity had suddenly become ubiquitous. Much to my chagrin, being young at the time, the later had not so I was never able to make a judgement on the former.

My second intuit concerned the nature of AIDS itself. The London teaching hospital in which I worked had a very busy STD clinic, which needless to say predominantly catered to the gay community for routine, regular treatment of various STDs. Many customers attended weekly…

It was never part of my experience but it always struck me that if one keeps contracting Syphilis for example and treating it on almost a weekly basis – sooner or later one would destroy ones immune system …

As I said, AIDS has never been an area of study for me, my opinions have always been based on rudimentary intuition. Once this Covid nonsense is out or the way, if ever,I will endeavour to educate myself on the subject.

lou
lou
Sep 4, 2020 3:28 PM
Reply to  CHRIS HUDSON

It is much worse this time around. Not only do we have a “test” that identifies nothing specific. False positives seem to predominate over the false negatives. This is quite convenient should you wish to promote Medical Tyranny which is what we have in Washington State.

I have a hunch what is being “identified” may be usually the DNA or DNA remnants of one of viruses in the Corona Family of 36 natural viruses and several man made corona viruses, Perhaps it is more inclusive than this. What this test may be telling us is “Yes you have had or do have some corona family virus DNA in your body.

This whole obviously fraudulent mess so reminds me of the AIDS continuing disaster I would be very afraid were I 40 years younger. Now I fear for those with years to LIVE. I have lived through the whole AIDS mess and have worried since then about the whole Scientific World living with a “scientific” AIDS lie for all these DECADES. Now the AIDS lie continues and our world is being plunged into being FORCED into injecting a never used on mankind technology, sure to be non-certified, into as many of the billions of poor souls as they can manage.

“Take the dark-tech of DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), its civilian counterpart BARDA (Biomedical Advanced Research & Development), the stealth-ness of nanotechnology, the Gates Foundation funded “Quantum Dot Tattoo” aka “mark of the beast,” and combine it with micro-needling as an inoculation platform that is conceived from how snakes inject their venom into their prey, and nanogels that can connect with external technologies outside your body like smart phones, the cloud or other smart devices (5G from satellites), and what do you have? Answer: Moderna’s new RNA vaccine against COVID-19 coronavirus.”   The Vaccine from Hell Bill Sadri   

http://healthyprotocols.com/image_Nbic_HTML.gif

“The scientist who invented the PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test kit was Kary B. Mullis. This technology is what they use today to test for the so-called coronavirus, said to be the cause of a disease which the health authorities such as the World Health Organizations (WHO) vaguely and inconsistently defined or identified. Mullis is among the many scientists who bravely question the narrative of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis. Mullis did not believe what the mainstream, globalist elite-funded, science is claiming that the HIV retrovirus is causing the AIDS disease. He was an important member of the “Group for the Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis, the 500-member protest organization pushing for a re-examination of the cause of AIDS”. According to him on his 1992 Spin interview, “PCR made it easier to see that certain people are infected with HIV and some of those people came down with symptoms of AIDS. But that doesn’t begin even to answer the question, ‘Does HIV cause it?’”   Coronavirus: The Truth about PCR Test Kit from the Inventor and Other Experts

“So how did this gargantuan antibody-nonsense barge into the medical canon of disease diagnosis? It gained power during the early years of AIDS “science.” Researchers needed a way to run simple diagnostic tests, and already quite sure that HIV was the cause of AIDS—based on no evidence—they arbitrarily inferred that a positive antibody test for HIV—which really only meant that a person had contacted the virus—was sufficient proof that he had, or was going to have AIDS. These researchers also assumed HIV was lethal—so a positive antibody test was really a death sentence. This “science” was, and is, criminal. And that’s how the whole madness took hold.”   AIDS Commentator  Note IMO NEVER take an AIDS test (or most other diagnostic tests IMO) not only is this “test” meaningless and totally inclusive but your information may go into MANY data bases and may result in your being FORCED to take a toxic drug or drugs which may DESTROY your health. Please try and operate “under the radar” in most health respects

PETER LEITCH
PETER LEITCH
Aug 16, 2020 12:45 AM

I have been trying as best as I can to follow the science of SARS-CoV2 and I am thankful to OffGuardian in helping me to do so. The comments are usually very informative and thought provoking also. As a professional psychotherapist and a supervisor of others I find it strange that I know of not one person who has died from or contracted this illness in test verified fashion. I know perhaps 15 to 20 people who had bad flus and in two cases double pneumonia in January and February but apparently this is too early to be considered COVID-19. My own busy caseload added to those of my supervisees probably numbers around 400 people,by extension that is also 400 families, a not inconsiderable number of stories of experience in my trying to understand the impacts of this pandemic. I could speak of much depression, anxiety, increased use of medications/alcohol/drugs, relationship breakdown, loss of employment, loss of businesses amongst many others however. It really does seem that the ‘cure’ has been much more costly than the illness thus far and as we near Autumn and then Winter I fear that more ‘necessary measures’ are again going to produce increase of suffering and heartbreak out of all proportion to the virus itself. And yes, I write advisedly with Koch’s postulates in mind and all other challenges to the nature or (non) nature of the virus as far as my understanding will permit and I believe I have a good working grasp of my own limitations. My job though is to try and help people with mental/emotional challenges help themselves, improve coping skills, dare to live again in some cases. But such is the climate of fear dished daily by the media and their dark government ‘psychologists’ who advise on how best to alarm and terrify people that many now grow more ill. According to Freud, every collection of people has a leader with a superego who largely decides for the rest of the family/tribe/group and upwards. If power and authority is diffused across a wide range of persons however then the prevailing superego is more benign as its ability to manipulate and control is checked by said diffusion. If power becomes narrowly centralised then it is imperative that we ever seek to understand the motivations of the ruler/s, especially to the superego dictates on what is good for us in a physical and a moral sense as these two things are often tied together by those who would lead us. Freud also showed how the masses can be manipulated into thinking the thoughts of the leader are actually their own. This can be achieved by ritualistic propaganda,consider Hitler, Nuremberg torch-lit rallies and Leni Riefenstahl .A sense of superiority can be very seductive indeed but nothing regresses the individual human ego like fear and who can truthfully deny that for long months now the public has been battered by the media, motorway signs, and now street-signs instructing us to KEEP LEFT / KEEP YOUR DISTANCE. All warning non-stop of a virus that has a lethality on a par with the seasonal flu. To finish, I would appeal to all, remember there are very vulnerable and frightened people among us everywhere and that while our anger and our puzzlement is at times justified we must take care of one another when those we have entrusted to do so, do not.

Bo Ptah
Bo Ptah
Aug 16, 2020 12:07 PM
Reply to  PETER LEITCH

very good points.

lou
lou
Oct 16, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  PETER LEITCH

“My job though is to try and help people with mental/emotional challenges help themselves, improve coping skills, dare to live again in some cases. But such is the climate of fear dished daily by the media and their dark government ‘”

There is NO reason to fear ANY virus; even a Bio Weaponized virus. Ebola as deadly as it CAN be, can be rather easily PREVENTED; as can the seasonal flu or cold OR SARS-CoV-2

“The Ebola disease outcome is determined in the first few days. Surviving patients show an early and strong immune response and by day 4 viral numbers drop dramatically. Fatal cases show a weak to no immune response with high viral numbers. … the innate immune system is quite important in making the decision of survival or non-survival.”   Doctor Erica Oilmann Saphire PhD Virologist, CDC Ebola Project Lead Scientist     Here we see the KEY to defeating Ebola and it is a simple and easily achievable task. Get your vitamin D levels UP, perhaps your STRONGEST innate immune system virus fighting tool, and make sure your immune system is in top notch shape.

“Mainstream medicine’s persistent failure to recognize and ensure adequate vitamin D levels has resulted in epidemic deficiency 87% of adults by recent estimates. Given seasonal flu viruses’ ability to endlessly mutate and the exorbitant cost to the public for each new round of vaccination, this persistent “oversight” borders on the criminal. Practicing clinicians have achieved efficacy with daily vitamin D supplements of 5,000 IU or higher – virtually eliminating influenza infections even among vulnerable populations.”  Life Extension, Note IMO it does NOT border on the criminal it is criminal. We see the Ebola virus is a RAPIDLY changing virus fighting it with a proven worthless (anti-viral) “vaccine” IMO cannot work.

“Vitamin D is a potent antibiotic [and anti-microbial]. Instead of directly killing bacteria and viruses, vitamin D increases the body’s production of a remarkable class of proteins, called antimicrobial peptides. The 200 known antimicrobial peptides directly and rapidly destroy the cell walls of bacteria, fungi, and viruses, including the influenza virus, and play a key role in keeping the lungs free of infection.” Doctor John Cannell Vitamin D Council.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_virus_fight.htm