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“Honey, I Shrunk the People’s Constitutional Rights!” How Public-Health Officials and Other Administrators Got So Much Power

Rosemary Frei

Chris Weisdorf was penalized for parking improperly in December 2017 and he decided to fight the fine. But he slammed up against legal structures that give virtually unchecked power to untold numbers of administrators around the world who oversee and enforce everything from parking regulations to public-health edicts.

The parking-ticket system in Toronto, Ontario — where Weisdorf had committed his offense – had been replaced with an Administrative Penalty System (APS). The bylaw creating APS was billed as streamlining the court system. After very little public consultation and notice it was approved overwhelmingly by Toronto city council in July 2017 (there appears to no longer be a record online of the council vote).

The bylaw contains Orwellian redefinitions designed to wriggle traffic- and parking-law violations out of the category of what the Supreme Court of Canada views as criminal offenses and into the administrative category — and along with that, defendants out of the purview of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is the core of the Canadian constitution.

The bylaw’s redefinitions include calling offenses ‘infractions,’ defendants ‘customers’ and parking tickets ‘parking violation notices.’ And in what Weisdorf calls “a legal oxymoron for the ages,” monetary penalties are deemed to be ‘not punitive.’

Another aspect of Toronto’s APS is that court hearings have been eliminated. In their place are Administrative Penalty Tribunal hearings. There, defendants essentially are seen as guilty unless they can prove themselves to be innocent. Moreover, tribunal officials aren’t required to have legal training. And the city staff who issue parking penalties aren’t obligated to attend hearings; as a result, it seems, none have ever shown up.

(Also, parking violation notices are issued via email or snail mail, eliminating the requirement for them to be affixed to vehicles’ windshields. That alone makes it much more difficult for the vehicles’ drivers to prove that, for example, they weren’t parked illegally at a particular place and time.)

This yields the double whammy of the waiving of defendants’ constitutional rights to fully air their side of events in hearings and to cross-examine the people who accused them of the offenses.

Aghast at all this, Weisdorf undertook a constitutional challenge of Toronto’s APS. He isn’t a lawyer (he works in the financial industry) and couldn’t find one to represent him. So he argued his case himself, first at a Superior Court in 2018.

He lost, but appealed the decision and had a virtual hearing on June 16, 2020, before the highest court in Ontario, the Court of Appeal. The three-judge panel unanimously ruled against Weisdorf on June 22, 2020, deeming Toronto’s APS and the accompanying waiving of defendants’ constitutional rights to be perfectly legal. (All the materials for the case are here. Most of Weisdorf’s documents are on the main page; click the ‘Case Law’ and ‘City’ tabs to see the rest of his and the City of Toronto’s materials.)

Kirkor Apel, a criminal, civil and family lawyer in the Toronto area who has read Weisdorf’s legal arguments, said his case is solid.

“He fought well and he argued well. It’s just that sometimes Goliath wins,” Apel said in a telephone interview with this journalist. “And the problem is it’s a slippery slope, because five years from now, or fifty years from now, the next step is going to happen and they’ll say, ‘Why don’t we waive the right to a trial [for other offenses]? Or [even waive] the right to a hearing?’”

Toronto first attempted to put the APS in place in 2015, but a group of paralegals stopped it. John Papadakis, who was a member of that group, explained in an April 2015 interview with the Toronto Star the profound changes inherent in the APS. He used as an illustrative example someone driving through an amber light but being stopped by a police officer and fined for running a red.

“Currently, you have the right to challenge the officer’s evidence, to obtain that evidence, to go before an impartial judge in a court,” the Toronto Star article quoted Papadakis as saying. “[But if the APS is implemented then y]ou are no longer innocent until proven guilty as guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms…. You will go before a municipal employee [at a tribunal hearing], who is clearly going to be biased [because the city receives revenue from fines levied under the APS]. [And] you will make your argument not on your innocence or guilt; you will make your argument on how much penalty you will pay, because [under the APS] you are already guilty.”

But in July 2017 the city of Toronto was able to push forward with the implementation of its APS. Weisdorf challenged it and lost.

Unbeknownst to the vast majority of people, administrative penalty systems are commonplace in North America, the UK and elsewhere. So are civil-asset-forfeiture regimes. And they’re all overseen by the executive branch of power, which now has more muscle than the legislative and judicial branches.

As the coup de grace, under the cover of COVID-19 this administrative creep has reached warp speed, with the legislative and judicial branches bowing before it. And shredding billions of peoples’ constitutional and civil rights in the process.

Today, public-health officials’ edicts ranging from social distancing to self-isolation are virtually unassailable, no matter the economy- and life-crushing consequences. And let’s not forget the vast numbers of contact tracers and quarantine-enforcers, another cadre of administrators who appear legally untouchable.

Just one example of their new power is the legal challenge by a San Diego church of California governor Gavin Newsom’s order temporarily stopping in-person church services. The US Supreme Court’s chilling six-page decision in this case, which hinged on asymptomatic transmission, is a must-read.

Weisdorf observed in an interview with the author:

One hundred percent medical opinion — not fact, not peer review — was enough for the US’s highest court to rule against the church and cancel the First Amendment indefinitely,”

Another chilling read is the UK Supreme Court’s 2012 decision granting Sweden’s request to UK officials to arrest and extradite Julian Assange. The court determined that the Swedish prosecutor who issued the European Arrest Warrant for Assange fit the European Union’s interpretation of a ‘judicial authority’ who is allowed to issue such a warrant. Thus it consented to a single individual from another country being not merely a prosecutor, but also essentially a judge over a UK resident (Assange).

“This type of thinking pervades the legal realm even more today. And many people in government are licking their chops at the prospect of expanding administrative tribunals and closing the courts. That’s why I went to the lengths that I did to fight Toronto’s APS and challenge the bylaw that enacted it,” said Weisdorf, who welcomes the use of his legal arguments by others to challenge the system and hopefully win.

One clue as to why this is occurring is that traffic and parking fines and civil forfeiture are cash cows. And the draconian COVID-19-containment measures have left tens of thousands of municipalities, states and provinces teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and therefore eager to exploit all possible revenue streams.

Another clue is in the city of Toronto’s rebuttal to Weisdorf’s constitutional challenge of the APS. The city’s legal representatives repeatedly called residents’ constitutional rights “loopholes.”

“The administrators see our rights as inconvenient, a hindrance to efficiency and easily removable. And I’m sure various medical ‘authorities’ see them exactly the same way,” concluded Weisdorf.

As if to hammer this home, on July 21 the Ontario government under Premier Doug Ford enacted legislation that allows it to extend the province’s COVID-19 state of emergency every month for up to one year without a vote of the legislature.

Under Bill 195,‘The Reopening Ontario Act,’ they also can then continue the state of emergency for an indefinite number of years one year at a time by a vote of the legislature, in which Ford’s Progressive Conservative Party has a majority.

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association described this as allowing Ford’s administration to “maintain the existing emergency powers while freeing the executive branch of effective democratic oversight.” Ontario is the only province or state in North America with such a law.

Rosemary Frei has an MSc in molecular biology from the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary, was a freelance medical writer and journalist for 22 years and now is an independent investigative journalist. You can watch her June 15 interview on The Corbett Report, read her other Off-Guardian articles and follow her on Twitter.

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TFS
TFS
Sep 18, 2020 1:50 PM

Remember Aaron Russo (Mad as Hell)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eot7hXXWPQ

His piece on Eminent Domain was scary.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 29, 2020 11:17 PM

Question #3: “What can be fought and what can’t? And what can be appealed in court?”

I’m not sure I understand the question, “What can be fought and what can’t?” If you go before an administrative penalty tribunal, you’re guilty until proven innocent… and in many cases you literally can’t be proven innocent. One Federal Court of Appeal case, Doyon v. Canada literally acknowledged it is almost impossible to win in front of an administrative tribunal under AMPS at paragraph 27.

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc/2009/2009fca152/2009fca152.html
Doyon v. Canada (Attorney General), 2009 FCA 152 (CanLII)

I discovered this when dealing with the insurance company after my crash in 2010. The way the Insurance Act was written, if you get into a single vehicle accident not delineated in the Fault Determination Rules, you are deemed to be 100% at fault. And that’s without a tribunal. It’s completely corrupt. The entire auto insurance system.

The APS and Obamacare are designed the same way. It’s not to protect you. It’s to protect them. To limit their liability and hit to their revenue streams.

The right of judicial review always exists. For a bargain basement price of $3000-5000, you can retain a lawyer to challenge the decision of an administrative tribunal in Divisional Court, which is a 3 judge panel in Superior Court. The APS lowers their highest fines to $300 automatically. And it’s quite deliberate in order to prevent anyone from ever challenging anything. I know because they did it to me.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 29, 2020 11:13 PM

Question #2: “If parking offences were criminal, how long were they criminal for?”

Parking was first regulated in the 50s. In Canada, offences were delineated under the Summary Convictions Act, which was federal legislation. All criminal/quasi-criminal. With the groundbreaking Sault Ste. Marie regulatory decision by the Supreme Court in 1978, provincial offences were born and the POA was constructed shortly thereafter. Part II went into force in September of 1987.

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1978/1978canlii11/1978canlii11.html
R. v. Sault Ste. Marie, [1978] 2 SCR 1299, 1978 CanLII 11 (SCC)

Parking was always criminal. For decades. Sections 7 and 11 of the Charter similarly always applied… until all that was overruled by subordinate legislation: the Regulation and the By-Law.

Our rights were removed by executive power. A first in Canadian history. Even more perverse, the Provincial Offences Act and Part II, which regulates parking, is still in force to their very day. But our rights are all gone. Bottom line.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 29, 2020 11:09 PM

Question #1: “Parking offences are criminal? I don’t think that’s right. Are you sure?”

The Provincial Offences Act here in Ontario is both criminal and quasi-criminal. The Supreme Court held as such in Wigglesworth in 1987 and specifically exempted parking and traffic offences from the “by-nature” and “true penal consequence” tests at paragraph 22 of that decision. Additionally, they held that section 92(15) of the Constitutional Act, 1867 applies to fines in a criminal or quasi-criminal context at paragraph 18. Not a long decision to read through. I cited it.

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1987/1987canlii41/1987canlii41.html
R. v. Wigglesworth, [1987] 2 SCR 541, 1987 CanLII 41 (SCC)

There’s more. In Dunedin in 2001, they also held the POA as quasi-criminal at paragraphs 89, 90 and 93. That unanimous decision was delivered by Chief Justice McLachlin. I cited it. Parts I and II of the POA govern traffic and parking, respectively. Both remain in force to this very day.

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/2001/2001scc81/2001scc81.html
R. v. 974649 Ontario Inc., [2001] 3 SCR 575, 2001 SCC 81 (CanLII) “Dunedin”

Part I was to be converted into an AMPS regime in 2015; the AG backed down. Part II is still as it was. The By-Law effectively executes an implied repeal of the quasi-constitutional POA. A first in Canada. That’s one of the tenets of my legal challenge.

brad
brad
Jul 27, 2020 5:18 PM

The crown keeps saying that the penalty is not “penal”. Hence, do not pay the fine. You can not be sent to jail for not paying the fine because that would be a “penal” penalty.

Karl Nitsch
Karl Nitsch
Aug 6, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  brad

The kicker comes when you go to renew your car license.. the *outstanding fees* get added on.

Judy
Judy
Jul 27, 2020 12:41 AM

The Myth people are still working on adding content to the site. The goal is to hold constitutional conventions across Canada to create a “we the people” constitution and replace our de facto government with a de jure one. The Myth is holding live round table discussions on youtube every Wed at 9 pm EST. Go to Nephalem films presents the Myth is Canada.on youtube to listen to past ones.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 12:06 AM

Just tell us what to do about it – I think many of us are ready and willing.
“The law is a ass” is a pretty old quotation, but we can’t just sit by and watch it become an evil monster – which it will do in the hands of these, well, basically stupid “authorities”.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 4:56 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I would say that this whole exercise was put into place as an act of desperation. Not one of strength. It was so haphazard and so sloppy that one wonders how much planning went into it to begin with. They need to keep ratcheting up the fear, or it’s over. The next steps are forced testing, another lockdown, then forced vaccination, forced quarantines (already happening in New Zealand), and then quarantine camps. If any one of those steps fails, the entire system will fall apart. There are 50 million people unemployed in the US right now. If even 10% of them mobilize, this could all be over in a few days. That’s one of the reasons for the riots- so they can’t mobilize without being lumped in with Antifa. Employers and employees need to stand side by side and demand an end to it all. The tide will turn after the money runs out. It can’t be stopped.

Don’t give them your power- either in your mind or in reality. Don’t give up. Don’t give in. Don’t comply. Don’t obey.

Obedience to Authority was written by Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram in 1974. It chronicled his electric shock experiments from a decade earlier. Over 70% obeyed and “shocked” the subject. This dynamic is in full effect today and reflects the approval numbers for the lockdowns and mask orders. This is in the epilogue of the book:

In reading through the transcripts of the My Lai episode, the Eichmann trial, and the trial of Lieutenant Henry Wirz, commandant at Andersonville, the following themes recur:

1. We find a set of people carrying out their jobs and dominated by an administrative, rather than a moral, outlook.

2. Indeed, the individuals involved make a distinction between destroying others as a matter of duty and the expression of personal feeling. They experience a sense of morality to the degree in which all of their actions are governed by orders from higher authority.

3. Individual values of loyalty, duty, and discipline derive from the technical needs of the hierarchy. They are experienced as highly personal moral imperatives by the individual, but at the organizational level they are simply the technical preconditions for the maintenance of the larger system.

4. There is frequent modification of language, so that the acts do not, at verbal level, come into direct conflict with the verbal moral concepts that are part of every person’s upbringing. Euphemisms come to dominate language – not frivolously, but as a means of guarding the person against the full moral implications of his acts.

5. Responsibility invariably shifts upward in the mind of the subordinate. And, often, there are many requests for “authorization.” Indeed, the repeated requests for authorization are always an early sign that the subordinate senses, at some level, that the transgression of a moral rule is involved.

6. The actions are almost always justified in terms of a set of constructive purposes, and come to be seen as noble in the light of some high ideological goal. In the experiment, science is served by the act of shocking the victim against his will; in Germany, the destruction of the Jews was represented as a “hygienic” process against “jewish vermin” (Hilberg, 1961) .

7. There is always some element of bad form in objecting to the destructive course of events, or indeed, in making it a topic of conversation. Thus, in Nazi Germany, even among those most closely identified with the “final solution,” it was considered an act of discourtesy to talk about the killings (Hilberg, 1961). Subjects in the

experiment most frequently experience their objections as embarrassing.

8. When the relationship between subject and authority remains intact, psychological adjustments come into play to ease the strain of carrying out immoral orders.

9. Obedience does not take the form of a dramatic confrontation of opposed wills or philosophies but is embedded in a larger atmosphere where social relationships, career aspirations, and technical routines set the dominant tone. Typically, we do not find a heroic figure struggling with conscience, nor a pathologically aggressive man ruthlessly exploiting a position of power, but a functionary who has been given a job to do and who strives to create an impression of competence in his work.

Now let us return to the experiments and try to underscore their meaning. The behavior revealed in the experiments reported here is normal human behavior but revealed under conditions that show with particular clarity the danger to human survival inherent in our make-up. And what is it we have seen? Not aggression, for there is no anger, vindictiveness, or hatred in those who shocked the victim. Men do become angry; they do act hatefully and explode in rage against others. But not here. Something far more dangerous is revealed: the capacity for man to abandon his humanity, indeed, the inevitability that he does so, as he merges his unique personality into larger institutional structures.

This is a fatal flaw nature has designed into us, and which in the long run gives our species only a modest chance of survival. It is ironic that the virtues of loyalty, discipline, and self-sacrifice that we value so highly in the individual are the very properties that create destructive organizational engines of war and bind men to malevolent systems of authority.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Very interesting. Thank you. What I feel is missing in this analysis is an awareness of what morality really is. For example, at the end of your quote, we get,

It is ironic that the virtues of loyalty, discipline, and self-sacrifice that we value so highly in the individual are the very properties that create destructive organizational engines of war and bind men to malevolent systems of authority.

But the differences between those virtues and their abused versions is very great. That difference, I think, lies principally in the “individual vs. group” issue, which has been covered here quite recently. The book, “The Crowd”, for example goes into great detail about this, and I would suggest that there is a sort of laziness at work – related to the statement in the book that crowds are always more stupid than individuals, a laziness which leads to otherwise bright individuals simply handing over their personal responsibility to a system.
A system might be good or bad, since it is, after all, composed of individuals who may be good or bad themselves, but, by virtue of being a system, it has inexorable power which few individuals can resist without severe risk to life and limb, if it comes to outright confrontation.
I don’t think nature has designed that into us as a “flaw”, any more than the fact that we will all eventually die is a “flaw”.
But I have to say that the topic of morality is too large to go into here. I’ll just close with a thought that whereas the Old Testament might have a lot to say about morality in the context of tribes, nations and groups, the New Testament turns all that on its head and makes it quite clear that individual morality is the way forward in our evolution. The concept that our further evolution may even be spiritual, while our physical evolution could be doomed to extinction, should perhaps not be ruled out either, if we take a large enough timescale into account… But, as things presently stand, I am no prophet on such matters. Just an observer.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 2, 2020 7:23 PM
Reply to  wardropper

‘Once a young man discovers the One and the Many, he sees it everywhere and there is no stopping him’
anon. Ancient Greek Philosopher.
Every philosophical system since those times is just the same old thing with a different name.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 3, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Roberto

“… just the same old thing …” sounds very dismissive, surely? Although I have a feeling you didn’t mean it like that.
Yes, there is wisdom in the words of that Ancient Greek Philosopher, and I’m very much inclined to listen. Nor do I think Nietzsche, Kirkegaard and Plato were basically just regurgitating the “same old thing” with a different name. The history of philosophy is a very long search, and an enormous variety of conclusions has been reached on that epic human journey.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 4, 2020 3:34 AM
Reply to  wardropper

As one example, A J Ayer picked up on it with ‘Language, Truth and Logic’. He analyses language to consist of analytic or synthetic propositions. He also stated in a later edition of the book that it was ‘being in every sense a young man’s book’, in an effort to dismiss his youthful passion, not considered to be properly associated with philosophizing. But he was older then, part of the ‘club’ and it really was a fun book.
Plato is analytic, Kierkegaard synthetic, Aristotle, synthetic, Nietzsche analytic. Politically, leftism is analytic, conservatism synthetic.
Religion is always analytic.
The One and the Many is the Analytic and the Synthetic, or objective and subjective universalism, etc.
Once you get started you begin to be able to immediately identify and allocate anything and everything, using just the two terms.
The motto of the USA: e pluribus unum, ‘out of many, one’. Synthetic.
Sadly, eventually, the federalists/centrists won, and they now have Ex uno, plures, ‘out of one, many’, with the feds micromanaging. Analytic.

Anyway, enough of that …

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 4, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  Roberto

I can’t help adding that “identifying and allocating anything and everything, using just the two terms” doesn’t work if you are religious (not in the institutionalized-religion sense, I hasten to add).
Also, to think about one’s own thinking – really trying to grasp the significance of what self-consciousness is, as the most advanced philosophers have tried to do, immediately adds another dimension to more utilitarian, earth-bound and materialistic philosophy.

But, enough of that too. People are no longer fond of thinking, or of contemplating what a remarkable thing it truly is.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 6, 2020 3:04 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Oh just one (or so) more. Yes, it works if you’re religious; any religion, or personal religion if you don’t buy the one size fits all.
The class ‘religion’ is analytic: it can always be proved but never verified. It is just a logical system of belief with everything proven by doctrines or dogmas that are stated by an authority that deems them to be true no matter how incredible they may seem. To not believe is heresy. Taken to its logical conclusion the system need not even bear any relationship to the physical world other than that minds are able to think about it.
But propositions can be analyzed within the realm of religious writings. The division is whether the propositions are evidence-based and can be verified (the Temple Mount physically exists), or faith-based, (Resurrection, virgin birth) i.e. synthetic or analytic.

Self-consciousness has the aspect of dimension to it. A dimension can only be observed from a higher dimension. An object is constrained within the dimension itself. So self-consciousness can only be observed from a higher self-consciousness. Ad infinitum? How many have had the experience of observing themselves, then observing themselves observing themselves …?
Anyway, universal consciousness seems to be just the potential of particular creatures that partake in their part of it. The ancients say something about cat-ness and dog-ness and people-ness. Don’t worry – when you die the next person born is you, and hopefully it will be in some nice place.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 6, 2020 3:45 AM
Reply to  Roberto

I think contemplation of “the meaning of life” actually takes us beyond these somewhat dry considerations.
There’s a story about Rudolf Steiner going on a picnic on a lovely summer’s day with a group of his colleagues and students. Despite the glorious weather, the subject of war came up, and one of his students, a young girl, exclaimed, “Oh, why can’t everybody just be happy?”
To which Steiner replied, “But what if the purpose of life is not to be happy, but to work?”
From an extremely compassionate and insightful man, that is certainly food for thought, and it makes a lot of sense to me, personally – although I wouldn’t preach it to everyone.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 6, 2020 3:58 AM
Reply to  wardropper

To address very briefly one of your highly interesting points, which happens to be crucial to Steiner’s teaching and philosophy too:
It seems to me that only very few people have had the experience of observing themselves, then observing themselves observing themselves…
but if our evolution remains reasonably on-track, perhaps their number will increase with time.
The purpose of doing so is, of course, to rid oneself of the attachments of subjective ego, with the aim of being objective enough in the future to be of real service to one’s fellow man. Lofty thoughts, and historically notorious for being hard to fulfill, but those who find themselves drawn to them will see no reason to give up. Nobody said life was supposed to be easy…

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 28, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

those are conditioned behaviour rather than natural. a lot of it comes from eating animals ie. parents telling kids to eat so they have been “authorized”.

Judy
Judy
Jul 26, 2020 8:41 PM

Please, go to themythiscanada.ca for amazing information on the lie that has been fed to on us for over 150 years and how we can fix it.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  Judy

I didn’t quite get “how we can fix it”, but it’s an excellent site.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 2:21 AM
Reply to  Judy

It’s good that people are becoming interested in our legal system and our supreme law, which is the Constitution and its Charter. Overall, I think our Charter is exceptional. But it needs some very doable amendments: an addition to the preamble that these rights are inalienable and absolute- even during a state of emergency; and the addition of property and privacy to section 7. The amending formula is hard to fulfill, but can be if the economy collapses due to the lockdowns. After that, if the courts start using section 1 and the legislatures section 33, to override the Charter, those sections should be repealed, too.

The US has a lot more work to do. People are still hung up on the differentiation between the feds and the states. It’s all GOVERNMENT and should be subject to the supreme law of the nation. And due to civil asset forfeiture, we have more property rights in Canada than in the US, despite not having those rights in our Charter and not even having an excessive fines clause like in the 8th Amendment. In comparison, Australia doesn’t even have a Charter and New Zealand’s is not supreme law. And you in the UK are in the worst spot of all: no written constitution, no Charter, and a supreme court that is not sovereign and can’t overrule parliament.

As for what is mentioned on the site mentioned, the courts will ignore you, but you make some good points. This reminds me of how the late Aaron Russo did a documentary, From Freedom to Fascism, in 2005. Its main objective was to show how the US income tax was never properly ratified, or ruled in favour of by their Supreme Court. Everyone should see it. Many people first heard about Ron Paul through it. Same thing with Peter Schiff, whose father was convicted for tax evasion.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 2, 2020 8:10 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

The Canadian Constitution and the Charter are an unnecessary joke providing much work for lawyers. It’s not necessary to define people’s rights; they have (or rather had) them, unless there are laws against certain behaviours. Thus, Common Law. Common Law defines what you can’t do.
And of course, being a Canadian creation, there is a ‘notwithstanding’ clause, which means that provinces can do whatever they like, rendering the Charter meaningless should the province deem it necessary. In Quebec, the English language is to a large degree illegal, the use of it subject to large fines or even incarceration. Don’t dare put an English sign outside your business, especially using the dreaded apostrophe – George’s Goods – illegal. Georges Goods – legal.
Tim Hortons – legal. Tim Horton’s – illegal, resulting in corporate name change – across Canada, and the States, if they wish to do business in Quebec.
And BTW, there is civil asset forfeiture in Canada, for the usual reason: property obtained by the proceeds of crime. No charges are necessary, just the claim that someone was involved in crime or possible crime. No direct linkage between the property and a crime is needed.
And finally, the US constitution: “Taxing Power Article I, Section 8, Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare . . .”.
The intent of the US Constitution was to define a Republic and the separation of powers between the Federal government and the States, but by well into the 19th century the Federalists had won, and constitutional law practice had become an industry which flourishes today. However, even in the original constitution, the Feds did have the power to impose taxes for the nation.

ame
ame
Jul 26, 2020 7:39 PM

Smart tracing
new marketing campaign
fat fuck Boris the butcher he is a fat fuck
telling fat people they need a app from doctors to monitor there weight
as they are more likely to get BS19 etc sold to the clueless as we care

launching the new smart health life

also trying to put in to the people psyches
14 day temporary lock down in march 23
will go on to middle of next year

ame
ame
Jul 26, 2020 11:29 PM
Reply to  ame

notice everyone has been given a down vote
77th low iq or some sad little cry baby upset someone commented something to them or on there post and hurt there feelings.
or it a 8£ troll
even worse could be someone doing it for free what a sad sack

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  ame

Just make an ignore list of suspects, ame. Done.

Red Covair
Red Covair
Jul 26, 2020 7:19 PM

The APS (Administrative Penalty System) as a Trojan horse for total dictatorship. It also originates from the corporate administrative system (which has never been a model for democracy), and was introduced along with the process of “privatization” of the nation states, which was put into motion long with the Neo-Liberal agenda (or “revolution”) nearly about half a century ago now. Its aim is clearly to abolish the legislative and judiciary branches of the state (which are the necessary conditions in the definition of a modern democratic state. To put it the other way, without these two branches doing efficiently their job, you live under a dictatorship).
In Brussels and in Belgium, the fines imposed on people caught not wearing the face mask “where they should” (250€) or the shop owners who do not respect the face mask “rules” (750€) have been so easily introduced thanks to the fact that the system of Administrative Penalty was already in place at the local administrative level. (And of course, without any form of previous democratic debate on the question of whether face masks are healthy at all for the population to wear, as the Belgian government was given “special powers” by the very docile legislative branch to rule anyway they saw fit, with the help, of course, of a “council of heath experts”. In fact, it is a government of occupation).
So, no need of or appeal to the national judiciary or legislative bodies. It’s a slippery slope indeed! You’re guilty if considered so by any administrative “authority” which decides you are and you have no right of appeal (as clearly illustrated in this article, they often may have a financial interest in finding you guilty as well)!
Now the decision to impose “local lock-down” have been transferred to local authority as well (as is the case in the UK, I see), thanks to the same APS “philosophy”. Who cares about the judiciary and the legislative now? They’re purely rubber-stamping branches now anyway, aren’t they? Does “your deputy/representative” have anything to say on the matter? Write to him and he will answer you (maybe) with an advice to send your questions to the “competent” health “authorities”.
So now local executives can decide whether or not to impose lock-downs (on any whim, like that of the totally unscientific criteria of the “R” case rate figure).
A “divide and conquer” policy would not proceed in any other way. And it is based on the same freedom-destroying laws such as those authorizing the Administrative Penalty System.
This “devolution of power” to the “local authority” is a sad irony for Belgium, a country whose motto is “L’union fait la force”/”Eendracht maakt macht”, which means “unity makes strenght” or “all power is weak unless united”. Well, … unless it serves a greater (and hidden) design than that of the nation state of Belgium, maybe? For that “devolution to the local authority” translates in reality as the dilution of democracy at every level of the state.

richard
richard
Jul 26, 2020 8:08 PM
Reply to  Red Covair

first class comment

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 2:27 AM
Reply to  Red Covair

In Brussels and in Belgium, the fines imposed on people caught not wearing the face mask “where they should” (250€) or the shop owners who do not respect the face mask “rules” (750€) have been so easily introduced thanks to the fact that the system of Administrative Penalty was already in place at the local administrative level.

That’s it, exactly. You really, really get it. This is what I feared when I woke up one day to simply get a court date to fight a parking ticket and was literally told to my horror: “Sir, we’ve gotten rid of the courts.” Shortly thereafter, I would learn that they also removed our most basic rights. And if they could do that to what is the highest law of the land, what could they not do? What would they not do during a financial crisis when additional revenue streams were needed? What would they not do during a state of emergency? We now have the answer: with enough fear, they can do anything they want. The Constitution and the rule of law be damned. I don’t know about you, but I won’t stand for any of it. Not for a second.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jul 26, 2020 6:53 PM

Great article thanks for it . Just more proof that laws exist and are enforced to enrich and maintain the interests of our rulers , in all situations. Clearly apparent these days as resources dwindle and economic/societal collapses accelerate as global populations continue to soar by 80 + million per year.

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Only a functioning democracy (ie genuine alternatives on offer, with real free speech to discuss their merits) can allow us to be makers or at least choosers of rules, not simple takers of rules from a ruling elite we can never remove. A functioning democracy should give people control over their government, the power to vote out failures and frauds peacefully. All other known options can only mean government control over people.

Roberto
Roberto
Jul 26, 2020 6:04 PM

Ontario’s “Progressive Conservative Party” should be enclosed in scare quotes; they’ve drunk the Kool Aid and could be described as Liberal Lite although in the election campaign they didn’t sound like that at all.
One Ontario Conservative MPP (no scare quotes for her though) voted against Bill 195 (the Not-Reopening of Ontario Act, otherwise known as the Forever Story) and was booted from the caucus.

Jill
Jill
Jul 26, 2020 4:36 PM

Good work Chris!

Here is an interesting interview that illuminates exactly what you experienced. I don’t agree with all of it but it is still worth hearing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/F4lmuIyeJT9A/

I am struck by how sadistic things are now. The human spirit is under attack and everything seems so dead. I keep asking myself, who wants to live this way? I wonder why it doesn’t bother more people, even those who initiated the sadism of “dead world”.

The best challenges I know are legal to restore due process (such as Chris tried), civil disobedience, and acting in the most life giving ways possible.

Howard
Howard
Jul 26, 2020 4:20 PM

Having Constitutional Rights is the most dangerous of all double edged swords. It allows societies to presume to have “granted” rights to their members. Rights cannot be “granted” by anyone or anything – including the master law giver we call “God.” Rights are requirements, imposed on living entities by nature; they are conditions of existence.

Without rights, life – at least human life – cannot continue. Even the most ruthless totalitarian dictatorships in history (including our own) must “allow” a certain amount of freedom or their subjects will cease to exist.

Rights are the building blocks of existence – not the “gifts” of societies and governments. Rights end where the grave begins.

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  Howard

When was the UK a totalitarian dictatorship? That term describes Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Islamist Iran, communist China etc. In those places no human rights, alternative opinions or free elections are possible.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  NicS

Don’t you see? The props are already in place. All that is lacking is the formal announcement and another wave of covid… Then let’s see you try to resist being vaccinated or being forced to wear a mask.
Xenophobia has blinded you to the presence, right here at home, of what you fear the most: Anything slightly less reactionary than Thatcherism.

Howard
Howard
Jul 27, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  NicS

When anything one can “freely” and “openly” say is immediately subject to ridicule and “debunking,” is that not a species of totalitarianism? We have, in the West, the illusion of freedom, nothing more. Never forget: the Soviet Union had “free” elections. But their candidates were chosen beforehand. Sound familiar?

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 2:39 AM
Reply to  Howard

Isn’t this why the Declaration of Independence says that the people are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”?

The most key words being “Creator” and “unalienable”. These most basic rights (life, liberty and property) are based on Natural Law, endowed by God, and are not granted by government so they can’t be removed by government. Moreover, this document makes it crystal clear that any government which removes life, liberty and property (or happiness, as it’s stated) from law-abiding citizens cedes its right to legitimacy and must be altered or abolished.

Howard
Howard
Jul 27, 2020 3:13 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

In the final analysis, these are words – pretty words, pleasing to the ear; but words nevertheless. Granted, they reflect the prevailing philosophical framework in vogue at the time they were written. But the framework has since then changed; and rights are no longer seen as being innate: they are now seen as gifts of society, to which conditions may be attached.

And that’s why it is ultimately in vain that we search documents for something to support or justify human rights. Documents, and the words within them, are only as good as those who at any given moment in history interpret and enforce them.

Which is why it has become useless to cite any document ever concocted to justify rights. The only rational justification for human rights is the necessity of living. If nature demands that one have food, clothing and shelter in order to survive; then one must have a right to food, clothing and shelter.

Nicos
Nicos
Jul 27, 2020 5:11 AM
Reply to  Howard

God gives us responsibilities, and with more rights comes more responsibilities

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jul 26, 2020 12:23 PM

Thanks Rosemary. I support the actions Chris Weisdorf took in challenging his parking violation, and even though he lost his case, it’s vital to maintain our principles, and to oppose what we believe to be ethically wrong, especially now.
However the situation in Ontario regards its legislation is deeply troubling.
That the Covid19 State Of Emergency can be extended every month for up to one year. No vote? And then can be extended again for ‘an indefinite number of years’.
Obviously until the vaccine becomes available. And who wants to bet that it will be mandatory? Any takers?
The odious Premier of Victoria has publically declared several times now that ‘the covid normal will continue until a vaccine becomes available and every single Victorian is vaccinated’. Otherwise known as blackmail.
That’s the next phase of these psychopaths – everyone gets jabbed.
I wonder how many will die before then as a direct result of these draconian measures?

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 3:21 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

injections are banned. the suggestion you are making that battery will occur is terrorising people and highly criminal.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Human rights lawyers are useless.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 12:16 PM

claiming an exemption to mask wearing is inferring others are obliged to wear one. this is a violation of the right of informed consent. you have been coopted to brainwash the shop keeper further into totally illegal infringements of said right.

Joerg
Joerg
Jul 26, 2020 11:49 AM

In the meantime, I have finally understood the larger framework and I understood what we are distracted from:
With their lockdown, they tear down the entire national and global economy. And I didn’t understand why. After all, the super rich and the powerful oligarchs are also suffering from an economic decline.
But they are concerned with national and global control!
 
The enormous economic collapse that we will experience in a few months will eliminate all small self-employed businesses. The technical development of the last decades has already eliminated shops of cobblers, bakers, tailors, butchers, fish shops, etc. Even salaried professions that existed 40 years ago have long ceased to exist. I still remember law firms that had to have at least 3 secretaries: for recording dictations (shorthand) of the lawyer, for typing documents to make a copy (there were no electric copiers yet), for processing the balance sheet Books etc. All of this was dropped decades ago. The jobs for the balance sheets, the management of the customer accounts (in ink!) also disappeared in the banks. etc. Because that could be done with “Excel” or “Word” – or with tailor-made software products especially for banks or other business sectors.
Masses of jobs were also lost in the manufacturing sector. Take a look at videos from car factories from the 1950s: thousands of workers on the assembly line! And today: robot halls depopulated by humans.
 
The coming economic crash will mean that there will only be jobs in large corporations and chains, such as Walmart/Aldi/Lidl, Amazon, in large manufacturing companies and large service providers.
The vast majority of the population will no longer find work. With the elimination of small businesses (travel agencies, cell phone and computer accessories, hairdressers, small bus and transport companies, etc.) in the coming crash, they intentionally make it impossible to find work outside of their system.
 
The aim is to make the population completely dependent on the state. Because the rulers will then – just to prevent riots – install a “CONDITIONLESS BASIC INCOME”.
And those who oppose after the introduction of the basic income or who do not want to be vaccinated will be blocked by the basic income. Those who do not want to starve, then must submit. Free information (like at least on the Internet today) will no longer exist. As is already the case today, you can simply lock a Julian Assange away – without anything happening. And – like the dictator Pinochet at the time – you can just “make people disappear” – like Julia and Sergei Skripal. Even already nowadays nobody is interested in it.
 
The rulers want total “nanny state”. The Nanny feeds you more or less, but she also punishes you. So you better not oppose.
.
Historically, this nanny state already existed: in ancient Rome.
As here even still about 200 years ago, the nationwide economy was primarily shaped by agriculture. With the import of cheap grain from North Africa (today: Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia), however, the small farmers in the Roman Empire were destroyed (the landowners had no problem, since they could also produce very cheaply with their many slaves).
The ruined peasants in ancient Rome were henceforth the “Plebs”. And they were kept calm with the now proverbial “bread and games”.
At that time the “Plebs” even got its own political representative – with the so-called “People’s Tribune”.
And after all, I estimate that the system lasted 400-500 years – without relevant uprisings by the plebs.

Croach
Croach
Jul 26, 2020 12:16 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Regarding the nanny state:
https://wrenchinthegears.com/2020/03/12/human-capital-markets-digital-identity-the-united-nations-sustainable-development-goals/amp

It’s about turning everything including human behaviour into a financialised investment market for the mega rich in line with the United Nations/World Economic Forum ‘Sustsinable Development Goals’.

It’s nutjobs controlling us to psychological breaking point whilst betting on which of us tops themselves next.

Paul
Paul
Jul 26, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Good summary.

These mask donning idiots who are sitting on furlough are completely oblivious that furlough translates to deferred redundancy.

The vaccine is in line with Agenda 2030 about every citizen being able to prove who they are to the state. As you correctly say if you don’t get the magical vaccine you won’t be able to work, claim benefits, shop, travel, purchase.
You will be frozen out of society.

They can’t make it mandatory but if you don’t take the vaccine you will be considered a health threat to the population and the state will use emotional blackmail to force you to take it.

Covid is a smoke screen or a false flag for total state control over its citizens and the transfer of wealth to large corporations.

There is no bio weapon virus or any new virus.

The tests don’t test for any virus. They are testing for a genetic material that everyone has in their bodies and depending on the amplification of the PCR tests everyone can test positive if they want them too.

Masks, social distancing etc are just part of the propaganda.

Any data around cases and deaths is completely irrelevant as the tests are not testing for a virus and deaths are being reclassified dependent on a dud test and autopsies forbidden to determine the real cause of death.

It amazes me that shops, restaurants, pubs are following the government guidance as they are basically complying with their own downfall.

It saddens me to say this but I think at this stage there is basically nothing we can do to stop this as there is no elected opposition.

The only thing is to move to another country that’s not part of the scam but for most people that’s not financially viable.

Joerg
Joerg
Jul 26, 2020 8:21 PM
Reply to  Paul

Yes. I agree with every point you made.
But where go to
Here is John Cleese in 2018:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteXcJAEKgY
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfqhCNHQPA
 
He than said he’d leave the country – for St. Kitts and Nevis.
If life there is inexpensive that would interest me, too
 

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 1:08 AM
Reply to  Joerg

He admitted he felt lucky to be able to move there.
But what would be really interesting would be to know their covid policy.
Sounds like they might be the sort of people who would just relax and let their immune systems do their best, except that it’s a Commonwealth country, and I suppose that technically means HRM’s Government can order them to wear face masks for fifty years, if it sees fit…

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 3:49 AM
Reply to  Paul

Surely there IS no country that’s not part of the scam. The WHO is subscribed to by everybody. These guys have covered their bases… It’s like the IMF.

ame
ame
Jul 26, 2020 7:37 PM
Reply to  Joerg

IncorporatedTv series
clearly a insiders writing this only a few years old
shows the future

no more real food everything is gm
everybody born from lab with genetic weakness takeaway and choice of what type of baby you want for the rich
the poor i mean really poor
all have genetic weakness done via computer and have chips and they cant do nothing, live in well hell type place
Cops are super robocops types owned by the super rich

watch it and learn and see if we are not there yet

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jul 26, 2020 11:58 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Joerg, everything you say is plausible, however there is a crucial Achilles’ Heel to the elites plan.

Orthodox Medicine is wrong, not just about the coronavirus, but about all viruses. Diseases are not “contagious,” as we normally understand it. The correct model for understanding disease and illness is German New Medicine, which can be read about here:

https://www.learninggnm.com/home.html

and here:

http://www.newmedicine.ca/about.php

I can assure you that this medical model is correct, and has been repeatedly independently tested and found valid.

if GNM is true – and it definitely is – then there can be no true justification for lockdowns and vaccines. Note that it can be publicly tested as often as we want and it will always be shown to be correct, however shocking it sounds when we first encounter it.

Study it, learn about it, spread the word. It is only our unjustified fear of viruses that keeps us enchained.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jul 27, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  Invisible Man

To put it more succinctly, the entire New World Order depends on our present understanding of disease being correct and final. But it isn’t. It is the German New Medicine model (however bizarre or even crazy it may sound at first) that is correct.

There are also plenty of alternative ideas in economics that would transfer power from the elites to the people – it’s just that they aren’t allowed to be discussed in the mainstream:

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/killing-the-host/

All the ideas in medicine and economics we need to create a healthier, happier world are already out there, it’s just the ubiquitous censorship, propaganda, and deplatforming that prevents these ideas from ever reaching the vast majority of people.

Joerg
Joerg
Jul 27, 2020 8:07 AM
Reply to  Invisible Man

To everyone, who can put two and two together it is clear, that this Covid thing is a hoax: The censorship, these endless lies, the lack of evidence (number of deaths like in every flu season), this not testing for Influenza A and B – only to test for an push Covid-19.
So as right as You, Invisible Man, may be with pointing out that the ruling dogma of today’s medicine model is wrong – it ‘s not even worth a look. Because it is already clear that this “scamdemic” is a total hoax.
But if I look around me: Most people believe this hoax and propaganda. So I am very pessimistic. These manipulators will win.
 
To that what will happen now there is this video with Peter König and Michel Chossudovsky:
“THE COVID-19 LOCKDOWN ECONOMIC & SOCIAL IMPACTS” –



 
This lockdown will lead to 150-200 million death worldwide because of hunger and to 2 billion people without work worldwide. This especially in the “Global South” (or “Third World”).
 
Because of the debts of the states everything the state (the citizens) owns will be privatised – also in the Global North. We will see ports, speedways, airports, public parks and so on be “privatised” and given to the superrich and there corporations.
 

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jul 27, 2020 5:42 PM
Reply to  Joerg

“So as right as You, Invisible Man, may be with pointing out that the ruling dogma of today’s medicine model is wrong – it ‘s not even worth a look. Because it is already clear that this “scamdemic” is a total hoax.”

It IS worth a look because the whole edifice of the proposed tyranny – cradle to grave state control of the masses – depends on our current medical model being correct. If it isn’t correct – and there is already a wealth of scientific evidence that it isn’t – then there can be no justification for these draconian measures.

If people lose all faith in their elites it’s game over for the elites. It is pointless to harp over a study here, a study there, that says masks are ineffective, or that exemptions are found through a loophole in the law. Because there already exists an abundance of evidence that the entire framework is wrong.

The deep pessimism and despair most people feel who see through the COVID hysteria is related to their belief that the overall model of infectious disease is still correct even if this particular pandemic is overblown. Because a “next wave” or “next pandemic” can always be found. But if that’s just not how disease works in the first place, and enough people can grasp this, the whole elite plan falls apart.

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Jul 26, 2020 11:49 AM

Having read that there is no official exemption cards I know find there are.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/903452/Exemption_from_face_covering_badge_for_mobile_phone.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/903453/Exemption_from_face_covering_badge_to_print.pdf
Exemption cards or badgesSome people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.
This is a personal choice, and is not necessary in law.
If you would like to use an exemption card you can use the PDF attachments on this page.
Those who have an age, health or disability reason to not wear a face covering should not be routinely asked to provide any written evidence of this. Written evidence includes exemption cards.

seems to be that people can self certify and it is all voluntary

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 12:04 PM
Reply to  Brian Sides

nobody is required to wear a mask but if you claim you exempt you are asserting others are obliged to wear one. you are violating the right to informed consent.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 26, 2020 11:25 AM

Here in England, according to the Bill of Rights 1689, fines and forfeitures before conviction are illegal and void. Yet daily, routinely and systematically various bodies impose such fines.

Too tired to argue
Too tired to argue
Jul 26, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The Bill of Rights was voided before WW1, and any remnants of it were nullified in the infamous great routing of the 70’s and 80’s culminating in PACE 84 and other such acts / ammendments / repeals / new legislation / wordage / garbage laws, etc.

Today not even ‘Innocent until proven Guilty’ applies – as best illustrated by speed camera fines where you are guilty unless you can prove you are innocent.

Rights, once lost, can only be recovered by brute force up to and including Civil War – as very well proven throughout all of Human History all over the World.

Following recovery of rights they can only be kept by an educated population prepared to defend them again through force of arms – as the American Founding Fathers well recognised…………….

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 2:57 AM

This is true. British Common Law, which is the foundation for the best legal system ever invented, has been gutted by one tyrannical government after another. Often because of people begging someone outside of themselves to “save” them from one fear or another. The rest was affected due to the lust for power. Only problem is, the system isn’t sustainable. And nothing they do can make it sustainable. That, in of itself, doesn’t even require the use of force to destroy it. They’ve painted themselves into a corner. Record debt means all the banks will fail in the event of mass defaults. So will government, unable to fund itself. That is inevitable. As for a devaluation of the currency… they’ll obliterate whatever remains when they do it. We don’t need them anymore. They’re worse than useless and have outlived their obligations to the people they purport to govern.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jul 27, 2020 12:01 PM

The Bill of Rights was voided before WW1

This is simply false. The Supreme Court in its judgement just last year that the prorogation of parliament was unlawful cited the Bill of Rights 1689.

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Jul 26, 2020 11:19 AM

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1314353/lockdown-update-gloves-mandatory-coronavirus-latest-news

Lockdown update: Could GLOVES be made mandatory in next step?THE HOUSE OF LORDS has opened up the debate about whether gloves could become the next mandatory item. Could gloves be made mandatory?
Criminals are licking there lips behind there masks if they can wear gloves as well without raising suspicion. They will be hoping swag bags and striped jumpers will be next.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Jul 26, 2020 10:47 AM

There is a very simple remedy for citizens. Just stop driving to and parking in the places that have such laws.

When the town centres and shopping areas find that their trade is drying up, they will spend the money to get the law fixed.

Where possible (and I know it’s not everywhere) people should walk instead of driving. That has many benefits for everyone.

Too tired to argue
Too tired to argue
Jul 26, 2020 11:05 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

LOL.
Just a few weeks ago ‘permission’ from the Gov and thier state enforcer the Police was required just to use your car for essential purposes (which they decided).

This time next year we will be lucky to be allowed to travel to any shops in a car, much less to other towns etc, and it is likely a Covi-Pass will be required to buy fuel too, and of course get food.

With regards to walking, many old and disabled people cant walk carrying shopping.

Supermarkets will not always be able to deliver food to them and when thier carers cant travel and shop for them because the state is the middle of the planned ‘second wave’ and planned ‘economic crisis’, all coinciding with Brexit of course, many will simply die.

See the Deagel report for death projections in the UK prior to 2025. It is shocking.

Joerg
Joerg
Jul 26, 2020 9:51 AM

In the meantime, I have finally understood the larger framework and I understood what we are distracted from:
With their lockdown, they tear down the entire national and global economy. And I didn’t understand why. After all, the super rich and the powerful oligarchs are also suffering from an economic decline.
But they are concerned with national and global control!

The enormous economic collapse that we will experience in a few months will eliminate all small self-employed businesses. The technical development of the last decades has already eliminated shops of cobblers, bakers, tailors, butchers, fish shops, etc. Even salaried professions that existed 40 years ago have long ceased to exist. I still remember law firms that had to have at least 3 secretaries: for recording dictations (shorthand) of the lawyer, for typing documents to make a copy (there were no electric copiers yet), for processing the balance sheet Books etc. All of this was dropped decades ago. The jobs for the balance sheets, the management of the customer accounts (in ink!) also disappeared in the banks. etc. Because that could be done with “Excel” or “Word” – or with tailor-made software products especially for banks or other business sectors.
Masses of jobs were also lost in the manufacturing sector. Take a look at videos from car factories from the 1950s: thousands of workers on the assembly line! And today: robot halls depopulated by humans.

The coming economic crash will mean that there will only be jobs in large corporations and chains, such as Walmart/Aldi/Lidl, Amazon, in large manufacturing companies and large service providers.
The vast majority of the population will no longer find work. With the elimination of small businesses (travel agencies, cell phone and computer accessories, hairdressers, small bus and transport companies, etc.) in the coming crash, they intentionally make it impossible to find work outside of their system.

The aim is to make the population completely dependent on the state. Because the rulers will then – just to prevent riots – install a “CONDITIONLESS BASIC INCOME”.
And those who oppose after the introduction of the basic income or who do not want to be vaccinated will be blocked by the basic income. Those who do not want to starve, then must submit. Free information (like at least on the Internet today) will no longer exist. As is already the case today, you can simply lock a Julian Assange away – without anything happening. And – like the dictator Pinochet at the time – you can just “make people disappear” – like Julia and Sergei Skripal. Even already nowadays nobody is interested in it.

The rulers want total “nanny state”. The Nanny feeds you more or less, but she also punishes you. So you better not oppose.
.
Historically, this nanny state already existed: in ancient Rome.
As here even still about 200 years ago, the nationwide economy was primarily shaped by agriculture. With the import of cheap grain from North Africa (today: Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia), however, the small farmers in the Roman Empire were destroyed (the landowners had no problem, since they could also produce very cheaply with their many slaves).
The ruined peasants in ancient Rome were henceforth the “Plebs”. And they were kept calm with the now proverbial “bread and games”.
At that time the “Plebs” even got its own political representative – with the so-called “People’s Tribune”.
And after all, I estimate that the system lasted 400-500 years – without relevant uprisings by the plebs.

Most recently: Videos that I found very interesting:
“DEMOCRACY DOWN” – https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1565-james-corbett-in-democracy-down/
“THE ANSWER” – https://www.bitchute.com/embed/vPHlo2P3TG22/ (on Bitchute because censored on Youtube)

Too tired to argue
Too tired to argue
Jul 26, 2020 11:06 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Nanny State is just the same as Big-Brother State – different words same meaning.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 26, 2020 8:14 AM

CYA going on via The Daily Telegraph: Some local coronavirus outbreaks could be ‘mass hysteria’, Joint Biosecurity Centre warns — “Organisation co-ordinating UK’s virus response said it would be alert to possibility of ‘local episodes of mass psychogenic illness'”

So blame it all on the people. Obviously the UK needs more spy and manipulation agencies to control such a feckless population. Damned clever that it took a new agency to spot the potential for hysteria – after the government spent months whipping up fear and panic in the masses.

UK Column has exposed how the Behavioural Insights Team and the Scientific Advisory Group SAGE deliberately use fear, alarm, confusion and antagonism to animate members of the public. Their main tools are media lies about the death toll and the danger – and constant changing of contradictory policy.

Now the new boys at the JBC have seized the opportunity to look clever. They’ve spotted the bleeding obvious: the people must have gone mad. Just not the public. The ones in government.

What are they smoking in that Joint Bio Centre?

“Dickie, you old Farqua-qua-qua… Come over here and give me a roller you old legend of the dorm… No, you bloody fool. Not a roll in the sack. Not here. Zip me back up. A smoke, old boy… just a smoke”.

Note that the Joint Biosecurity Centre is a new spy and manipulation unit set up by “Eton” Tom, the son of former British foreign secretary Douglas Hurd. It joins more than a dozen bodies including rapid response/benavioural insight/NSC/ National Security Communications Team /SAGE/Counter-Disinformation and Media Development/77th/13th/GCHQ/Jtrig/Mi5 and Mi6/Institute for Statecraft/Integrity Initiative.

Britain doesn’t quite match the USA with its 17 intelligence agencies but it’s getting there.

ame
ame
Jul 26, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

tread with caution with Brian gerwish and his lot he is still intelligence for MOD or higher
I was there when he told a small group he spotted UFO coming out the sea that what woke him up he mentions nothing about that now no UFOs it all doom doom doom fear porn mixed AJ type style talking left elft eleft eletf right crap
he was super put into the alternative media back them as insider and become a celeb in the alternative truth scene on the net

always suspect

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 8:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Whipping up fear, panic and anger among the masses is neither new nor conservative. Propaganda was massively successful in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. You may also have seen Iranian politicians chanting “Death to the Great Satan” in the Iranian parliament building. Blaming the Tories for the growing authoritarian mood in politics doesn’t help us understand the much deeper threat of creeping totalitarianism and the ending of democracy and freedom of expression. Censorship at the Guardian brought us both here, right?

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 29, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  NicS

“Blaming the tories… does not help us…”
“Censorship … brought us both here, right?”
I specifically like how you presume us to be on the same page. …right?

Too tired to argue
Too tired to argue
Jul 26, 2020 11:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The British invented the Intelligence Agency in the Court of Queen Elizabeth the first.

John Dee is credited with being the Father of Intel Agencies.

The “007” in ‘James Bond 007’ is homage to John Dee.

The “F” in Facebook is not an “F” at all but a stylised symbol resembling an F – it is the symbol John Dee used (fitting as Facebook was set up by the CIA as a spy tool).

The pyramid on the old MI5 logo is the same pyramid on the US Dollar Bill.

John Dee refered to America as “The New World” from which he would bring order to the chaos of the old world (aka ‘The New World Order’).

Just a few little tit-bits to be going on with………….

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 26, 2020 5:44 AM

Ed Curtain said it…He was describing the power and forces of this new control language – I reckon probably developed by the Psychological Institutes Here in London..Tavistock Institute et al

using the same kinds of words and phrases – repetitively

eg you don’t need a face mask – it will make no diffrence
you do need a face mask –
you can’t go to your local shop without one

I said, get back in the car love. They can hear you too on your mobile phone..just be quiet, when we are coming up to a complex roundabout, and you are rabbitting away, the girl on the satnav phone is at it too, as well as the girl in my car -who is a bit outdated..I have now got 2 screens to watch – one in my old car, and a new one on my mobile phone, who now speaks nice English, but now in kilometers

She is really good at keeping quiet, when we are coming up to a complex roundabout…otherwise we end up going the wrong way.

Try explaining that to a robot.

We really like arriving where we were planning to go, and getting our tent up.

Tony

Johan
Johan
Jul 26, 2020 3:33 AM

Remember, democracy has actually produced, in the context of the modern capacity of organization and the application of science a society which is hyper-regulated to the extent that there is no historical precedent to it, not even under the rule of feudalism and any elite or kingly dictatorship. As democracy is the rule of not one, but a thousand little dictators, who together are more fanatic, more ubiqitously present, and able to invest more time to invent and enforce more laws and regulation than any elite can ever accomplish. Or, is even willing to accomplish as real elites like to spend a great deal of time to enjoy their luxury rather then to occupy themselves with petty things.
Hence, democracy ends up with a forbidding or directing sign of law, or some kind of other regulation on every tree and street corner, if not multiple of them stacked on top of each other, if not stacked with propaganda with propaganda with it. This is aside of the vast armies of bureacracies producing the paperwork full of regulations.. which you will meet another sphere, and aside of the management layers occupied with the invention of tons of procedural rules which you will be subject to at work.

Believers in democracy always shift the blame elites to elites though, as nothing is more holy than holy, like the dictatorship of the people. But really, in a real dictatorship, you know you are subjugated, in our democracy the subjugation is gradual, split up in a thousand regulations and laws, none of these in themselves very much worth a fight, if not indeed, it is not a heroic fight at all, your are just defeated by being drowned in tons of small stupidities and petty regulations.

Epousedesacrecoeur
Epousedesacrecoeur
Jul 26, 2020 5:59 AM
Reply to  Johan

Democracy is and has always been a sham, scam, and a scheme. The minute someone becomes President or Prime Minister and one didn’t vote for them is the minute democracy is gone, because the President or Prime Minister is in power due to majority vote(unless however the electoral college in the States, which ironically makes it something other than a democracy). Democracy is something of a contradiction and doesn’t make any sense.

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 11:22 PM

Among ruling classes, this political corruption is probably as inevitable as financial corruption, and is the big reason why many of us fight for the smallest, least intrusive, least controlling form of government possible. At present, we are going in precisely the opposite direction under the rule of those whose party once famously opposed big government and authoritarianism.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 26, 2020 9:13 AM
Reply to  Johan

“a society which is hyper-regulated to the extent that there is no historical precedent to it”.

The greatest protection was never any set of “constitutional” rights but the human capacity required to enforce it. A.I. is putting an end to all that.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 26, 2020 11:07 AM
Reply to  Johan

“The best way to take control over people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time , to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these charges cannot be reversed “.

A. Hitler

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jul 26, 2020 12:01 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Or, in other words, the frog being put in a pot of cold water and the temperature is slowly turned up.

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 11:27 PM
Reply to  Grafter

I’m sure Stalin and other totalitarians famous or otherwise would all applaud and employ Adolf’s tactics. I’m guessing Xi Jinpeng is their best current exponent, as Hong-Kongers now on trains to distant concentration camps would surely agree.

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 29, 2020 10:09 PM
Reply to  NicS

How? How can you be sure? One thing is certain: concentration camps are
an english empire invention. (Boer wars)

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 11:13 PM
Reply to  Johan

In functional democracy, ordinary people can remove failed or fraudulent leaders at regular intervals. That encourages politicians to represent what people want and to keep their word or lose office. In democratic nations, the demos have power and influence over governors. All other systems invest political power in a ruler and elite who may never be removed by plebs except through violence. As Ronald Reagan said, “government is the problem, not the solution”, knowing very well how power corrupts. I agree with him, so I choose government always subject to people, not a people always subject to government. Is there an alternative or better choice to democracy?

Mishko
Mishko
Jul 29, 2020 10:14 PM
Reply to  NicS

“In functional democracy…”
When did we vote for war against Iraq?
When did we vote for bombing Yugoslavia?
When did we vote for ending Libya?
When did we vote for war against Yemen?

Sorry for going there but:”Bitch prettyplease GTFOH”

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jul 26, 2020 3:27 AM

“The World is a Corporation” (Network, 1976)- 6:18

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jul 26, 2020 3:03 AM

Western institutions are now so blatantly corrupt that one could easily come to the conclusion that our ruling authorities are nothing more than a huge interlocking criminal cabal.

It is not only we commoners, but literally any remotely “progressive” democratically elected heads of State who are also subjected to the criminal machinations of the so called “legal system” – in order to neuter them or remove them from office.

Pepe Escobar’s analysis of the collaborations between U.S. deep state forces and Brazilian oligarchy in order to remove from office and imprison Lula is just the latest example of how “soft-power” can be as effective as a “magic bullet” when it comes to “regime-change” facilitated by uber-corrupt Western institutions.

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/07/24/what-will-lula-do/

Johan
Johan
Jul 26, 2020 3:41 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

The Western institutions actually, aside of consisting of a very minor part of old historical elites actually for the larger part consist of socially and financially upwards moving common man.. Thus, if a cabal, as distinguished from ‘our’ as ‘the people’, the cabal has found the most of it recruits among ‘ours’..

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 11:45 PM
Reply to  Johan

They share a globalist ideology. One world order, controlled by them, in their own interests rather than those of the demos in each free, independent nation. Globalists can never say ‘America First’ or ‘France First’. Nations and ‘national sovereignty’ are for dumb oiks, gammons and racists, the elite think. They sneer at the little people with little jobs and little minds, especially if they refuse to wear masks, or vote the wrong way.

NicS
NicS
Jul 26, 2020 11:38 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Imprisoning Lula is an ancient story. Most Brazilians I know deplore his corrupt party and government and applaud his imprisonment. The real story now (I’ve lived in Brazil 20 years) is the slow undemocratic coup against populist Jair Bolsonaro, who is fighting the liberal deep state here almost as fiercely as Trump is trying to drain the DC swamp and corrupt intelligence establishment trying desperately to oust him on the swamp’s behalf. Think: these Populist leaders were voted into office by ordinary voters to oppose and clean up the corrupt western institutions you, I and they all deplore. We want back power to the people; our democratic choices of leaders and their popular agendas must prevail against the tyranny of the unelected elite. True democrats and free speech ‘extremists’ are the real resistance.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jul 27, 2020 3:21 AM
Reply to  NicS

Nothing like challenging fascism to bring out the true believers – eh?

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 26, 2020 2:33 AM

I am amazed that both Canada and Australia have come to this. I have realised the Americans, lost it years ago – and have never come back after 9/11- but you lot – come on – is this internet disinformation?

Historically since we both retired in 2004..and before

Monday is a clear day (I don’t like Mondays) No Tobacco or Booze on Monday. I don’t even think of a cigarrete or alcohol on Mondays

Tuesday and Wednesday Feeling Fine- doing loads of physical work too – and long walks in the countryside – just because it’s nice, if time and weather allow..

Wednesday mornings are almost always really good, unless we are in a tent, and it is already getting too hot 7:30 am…I crawl out of the blow-up bed, and open nearly all the tent flaps – they have very long zips (it can get really cold in a tent at night, but very hot in the morning, and then go back to bed.

Wednesday nights, I do tend to get p1ssed again, and try and work out – what amongst the relatively enormous options (almost always involving music and live bands) in pubs, clubs, venues are on, and which we might go to. I used to regularly make a post on Facebook on Wednesday nights, for anyone who might be interested, what bands were on.

That has all changed now – these [email protected] whoever they are have changed my Life…

I look on Wednesday Nights, and There is Still Almost No Live Music on for the coming weekend.

I do not understand how pubs and clubs and musicians, are going to survive. We always spent a lot of money at the bar, and filled in the jug for the band, mainly with money – a few pennies and £5 notes.

There is NOTHING on.

They are all going to go bust.

So its busking time again – thanks to my ex for the link. This guy from Chile is awesome playing the streets of London.

“Miguel Montalban Favorite Street Guitar Performance 4k INCREDIBLE!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ddfqiTgotc

I still think London is The Best City in The World, its just that I am not too impressed at the moment.

But almost Everyone still seems so afraid.

With Good Cause

It is going to be horrendous, if we submit and comply and do what we are told to do by Fascists

Tony

Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
Jul 26, 2020 7:59 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

“I do not understand how pubs and clubs and musicians, are going to survive.”

What gets me about these ‘woke’ musicians telling us to stay at home and all the other BS is that as touring is how they make their living, they are finished when this BS is not stopped.

I am all for people getting what they ask for, but I object to me getting what I didn’t ask for.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 8:29 AM
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

are you sure a mortgaged or rented rat cage is a home? stay home means stay home not stay in a shitty commuter dorm.

covidiot
covidiot
Jul 26, 2020 12:09 PM
Reply to  Rachel

ok, karen.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 12:48 PM
Reply to  covidiot
DONNIE
DONNIE
Jul 26, 2020 4:16 PM
Reply to  Rachel

ok, so when government says to the whole nation “stay at home”, what exactly does it have in mind?- that only those who own “real” home should stay at home? What about those who indeed do rent a “rat cage”? Btw, is it you that votes down each and every comment after each and every article on off-guardian, no matter what it says? Judging from your comments I would think that it is you.

John
John
Jul 27, 2020 2:42 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

During WWII, some people in the UK plead to close down cultural events because all efforts and energy should be directed at defense. Churchill then said ‘Then what are we fighting for, if it is not culture’.
The Corona scare against an invisible enemy of which only specialists can determine the existence and spread… allows for total militarization, even cultural events among each other can now be canceled, as the enemy is now among you, carried by the other, so goes the legitimizing reasoning.
Suspending cultural expressions means suspending what can afford people distraction, relaxation and expression their creativity. So then, in as far as cultural expessions are still possible, this will be at large made dependent on ZioSystems like Facebook, Google and Youtube. Further more you will be rerouted to virtual services and virtual major payment services like ZioPal instead of those providing real human contact. This also gives controllers the chance to monitor, guide and transform culture, aside of transforming the economy. Transforming culture means that you will be more and more depending on the ‘big culture’ providers, you are going to have to watch Netflix or get your culture from some other big player like Itunes, Amazon, etc. Marginal expressions of culture will get out of stock, minor culture providers will go bankrupt (already happening). Major mass culture providers will get bigger and more powerful. Your means of communication and human contact, exchange of ideas will be limited more and more to the virtual realm, where everything can potentially be monitored, if not live, it will be saved on disk.
Meanwhile everywhere you are reminded in order to keep up the fear and the condition of militarization.

As elite puppet Macron declared: we are at war… of which can be added that it is without historical precedent, total militarization, upto your living room, your garden, your bedroom, and all cultural gatherings.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 26, 2020 1:15 AM

Would recommend anyone subscribing to Netflix (I know , I know), to view their excellent documentary, The Square concerning Egypt’s Tahrir Square revolution starting in 2011, where one corrupt presidential dictator after another starting with Mubarak, then Morsi, then Sisi, backed by an equally criminal military have managed to prevent any semblance of democratic freedoms being granted to their citizens. This of course is all fine and dandy in the western scheme of things where we have been dealing with a varied assortment of psychopathic avaricious world leaders to pursue policies harmful to their own people. What i admired most however was the bravery and conviction of those demonstrators who faced up to military authority armed to the teeth by our good selves, to stand up and make their voices heard against these gangsters.
And here we are now facing not rubber bullets or live rounds but an insidious governmental campaign over a virus fear which is just beginning to remove those very same liberties and rights which those demonstrators were fighting for. I do hope that like them, we can be courageous enough to take whatever means necessary to bring this state of affairs to a satisfactory conclusion .

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 26, 2020 4:15 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Grafter, as one of the worst offenders, we can’t live all our lives, just staring at big screens. I admit, I did order it, within 2 hours of my wife’s TV -only 5 years old, portraying massive evidence of the electronic guts displaying the kind of effects, that happens when your mobile phone falls from a great height – next to your bed, whilst reaching out for a glass of water half asleep in bed. It goes bang on the floor. You turn it on in the morning…and you get this image of strong vertical lines and massive distortion. You touch the screen – and the distortion spreads. You turn the lights on. Open all the windows, take your glasses off (if you are short sighted like me)…and may see some evidence of an extremely fine crack.

So her new 50″ TV, which arrived the next day on Amazon Prime (admittedly labelled by Amazon as used – but it certainly looked Brand New to me – maybe someone had a go on it – and sent it back..I have kept the box, and might do the same…(except it was really cheap- much cheaper than most mobile phones – and it comes with a “50 inch” ultra 4K screen – which is O.K…but not quite as good as the old telly with the crack?

It’s got Android built into it – in theory like a mobile phone – and it has got this remote control, which has also got a microphone – so you can ask questions of the google assistant, and she can sometimes reply with a really good answer – even better than a Satnav,,she talks back to you as well.

But now we have fed it, my wife says – I really want to see this film -for £1.99 I am not really going to complain…The Android TV, seems to think it owns my wife…she likes it..

The Android TV, though there is no physical hardware problem, is extremely reluctant to display the connections on HDMI 3 and HDMI 4 , when both The SKY BOX, and My Wife’s PC, after I deleted all the crap, and restored the operating system, to the last time I nearly reinstalled it were both working fine…still on and functional.

The Android TV has got a computer inside of it, a remote control that listens, probably when absolutely everything is switched off…I have seen absolutely no signs of a camera eye, but so far as I know, it might be built into the screen…I don’t mind…It can watch my wife doing Yoga if it wants. The Android might get an education. We have a very fast broadband connection

She’s Fit.

Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 26, 2020 4:49 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

If you don’t play with the latest toys, you have no idea what “THEY” are up to. I have never met Julian Assange nor Craig Murray, but was quite impressed with the visual definition of the Spy Camera I saw on OPED News today of all places.

“CIA Spying on Assange’s Privileged Legal Conversations”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/04/cia-spying-on-assanges-privileged-legal-conversations/

Tony

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 26, 2020 1:01 AM

I fought my legal battle being fully aware of the following:

We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.

–George Orwell, 1984

This is all about power and control. Nothing else. Executive power has been elevated over both the legislative and judicial branches of government. The separation of powers has been laid to waste. Power has been concentrated into the hands of administrators. Of “the experts”. They dictate how we live now and we’re not permitted to challenge them. Even worse, many people are too frightened to challenge them. Dissent is being snuffed out. People are not only being censored, but are self-censoring out of fear of reprisal.

The People are sovereign above all else. YOU. There are over 100 million of us, alone, in North America who are strongly against these tyrannical measures. More than enough to bring all of this to a grinding halt.

Like I said in another comment here: Freedom is never free. We must fight to keep it. Or we’ll lose it forever. Everyone must do their part. Speak out. Say something. Do something. Don’t comply. Don’t obey.

Watt
Watt
Jul 26, 2020 2:23 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Yaaay!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jul 26, 2020 12:29 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Everything you say is spot on, and inspiring. Thank you Chris✌️👍

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jul 26, 2020 5:13 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

“There are over 100 million of us, alone, in North America . . .” Very interesting. How do you know this? (btw I’m happy to hear it!)

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 3:07 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

The population of the US is about 330 million; in Canada it’s 37 million. That’s 367 million people in total. 30% are strongly against these measures. That’s 110 million people, minus 10 million who “go along to get along”, but are otherwise strongly against. 50 million Americans are unemployed right now and more than 50% of small businesses will never re-open. Some people will be overwhelmed by the financial pain and beg government to be rescued, but I bet that whatever number that is, they’ll be dwarfed by those who are furious about what our governments have done to us. Essentially, the people have a choice: freedom or slavery. That we either need more of this totalitarianism, or we don’t need government to “save” us from anything. Least of all, this virus.

Torontonian
Torontonian
Jul 30, 2020 8:13 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

…And we are all waiting until the time is right. Timing is everything. The problem with plans (theirs) is that (as you said) EVERYTHING has to fall into place as planned. It never does, especially if governments are involved. They are inept, lazy and only do what they are told by interests(ie give me money for re-election types) and “experts”. Think of who runs for office– are they the sharpest knives in the drawer? Not in Toronto!!!! LOL!!

I sympathize with you but unfortunately it has always been the way–if governments needs money they change how things are done in their interest-quietly so no one complains. They have always done stuff like this (best eg is retroactively passing legislation to cover up stuff they did) These changes are usually hidden inside an omnibus bill.

So what to do? Use your creativity find means to go around the issue (like tax loop holes), ignore it, stay under the radar –all kinds of ways, ie put a wrench in the works. Use their force and energy against them– Aikido principles. Tie them up in their own knots. Jam them up in their mediations etc. Rational legal arguments will not hold sway. Find a way. As you say freedom is not to be taken for granted. Other people in the world know this SO well.

Understand that there is NO way they can monitor, stay in front of, pass laws etc. to move their plan along swiftly or with certainty. Kill the wrong son or daughter of a big whig who gets a vaccine and you have a problem. Allow someone to travel who then blows up an airliner “but has a certificate” and no one believes in the safety/security of the system. Think Wizard of Oz– after the curtain was drawn by Toto.

There are SO many scenarios, and reasons why they will have difficulties– TOO much work to monitor, (they don’t like to work just get titles and money)– even with a few “Im the smartest (sic) billionaires to buy advice on how to– no one is infallible. NO one is (even the Pope?) They are not smart enough, don’t have enough models (COVID models were beyond ridiculous) to predict , enough AI to implement, people to implement, etc etc. Don’t assume!!!

And thats not even assuming that there won’t be a leak of information, an insurrection, a defection to the human side (us) etc. SO much can happen.
Example? How many of you predicted Covid would happen in March? How many of you said that alien life evidence would be on the front page of the NYTimes in 2020 (actually if you recall there was a less fulsome article Dec 2019?)

Take a breath people and realize just how inept and stupid we humans are– including (especially?) government officials and politicians and yes ….billionaires

NicS
NicS
Jul 27, 2020 12:02 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

You say all power now rests with the executive, and also that it has been “concentrated into the hands of the administrators and experts”. I’m confused; are you saying this group of public servants executes power, and not the President they should serve? I certainly see it like that, but then I believe Trump is trying to ‘drain the swamp’ ie make the DC establishment actually represent and serve the interests of normal working Americans, rather than continue serving their own corrupt interests as usual. Trump certainly doesn’t quit fighting, comply, obey or keep his mouth shut in order to please the DC and media elite; they’d happily behead him given the chance. That clearly suggests no alliance, that Trump is the resistance. Not a popular view here, I’m sure! And certainly not permissible at the Guardian.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 3:28 AM
Reply to  NicS

How our legal system works, whether in the US, Canada or most of the western world, is that our elected representatives make the law (i.e. statutes), while they are advised by the executive branch (cabinet ministers, lawyers, technocrats and bodies of experts in administration). Then said executive branch executes the will of the legislators. This includes anyone from prosecutors and police, to tax and border officials, to the military, to all regulatory agencies, to internal disciplinary agencies (doctors, lawyers, electricians, etc.), to our health authorities, to our municipalities. They can make their own rules, i.e. regulations through administration, or by-laws through municipalities. This is called subordinate legislation. It’s lower than all other law and is enabled by the legislatures. The executive is not supposed to be able to overrule the former, which is what my entire legal challenge was all about. A by-law effectively repealed statute that has been in force for decades. The tail wagged the dog. This is akin to the power of a king and is why you never want power concentrated in any branch of government- especially the executive.

I agree that Trump acted in good faith to attempt to correct the system. His senior advisor, Steve Bannon, said he wanted to crush the administrative state before Trump even took office. I also publicly predicted the day before he got elected that the administrative state will prevent Trump from enacting any significant change. This was well before the term “deep state” was ever used. Unsurprinsgly, Bannon was the first official to be jettisoned from the administration. Not long after, the US attacked Syria. I knew Trump was in big trouble after that. He’s held out as long as he could regarding the virus, but has capitulated. His pro-police state stance is ruinous and won’t get him the support he needs to win. I would say to anyone that, if you like more government and want more government power and regulation, you necessarily want more police. There is now talk of suspending posse comitatus indefinitely by Trump’s people, which is extremely dangerous. The same goes for those who think the problem can be solved with executive orders. It’s tyrannical, unsustainable and won’t end well. That said- Trump is an easy choice over someone who is guaranteed to be a sock puppet President.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jul 26, 2020 12:49 AM

This reminds me of Chicago circa 2009 when traffic intersections with red light traffic ticket cameras had the yellow light shortened from 4 seconds to 3 seconds and the city of Chicago extracted many millions of extra dollars from motorists.

Reg
Reg
Jul 26, 2020 12:32 AM

I see the auto-downvote AI program has embedded itself in Off-G. Or maybe it’s some sad wannabe “fact-checker” diligently clicking away to please his masters.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 26, 2020 12:41 AM
Reply to  Reg

No, but the hate brigade may just now be arriving. Some people can’t stand that this was ever challenged in court, let alone made it to such a high level. Could give other people some ideas.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jul 26, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Seems to me is your challenge is exactly what we need to be looking into further, with your experience as guide. What’s involved for example in challenging State Governors on mask and distancing requirements? These are based in what authority? How can this be challenged from a citizens’ perspective? Plus of course moving toward challenge of “vaccine injury.”

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 3:51 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

You can’t challenge them.The Supreme Court handed yet another victory to the government two days ago, which was challenged by a church in Nevada via an injunction. The decision Calvary Chapel Dayton Valley v. Nevada was another 5-4 judgment. Justice Gorsuch wrote a short dissent for the ages:

This is a simple case. Under the Governor’s edict, a 10- screen ‘multiplex’ may host 500 moviegoers at any time. A casino, too, may cater to hundreds at once, with perhaps six people huddled at each craps table here and a similar number gathered around every roulette wheel there. Large numbers and close quarters are fine in such places. But churches, synagogues, and mosques are banned from admitting more than 50 worshippers—no matter how large the building, how distant the individuals, how many wear face masks, no matter the precautions at all. In Nevada, it seems, it is better to be in entertainment than religion. Maybe that is nothing new. But the First Amendment prohibits such obvious discrimination against the exercise of religion. The world we inhabit today, with a pandemic upon us, poses unusual challenges. But there is no world in which the Constitution permits Nevada to favor Caesars Palace over Calvary Chapel.

All due to their previous decision, referenced in this article, which held that asymptomatic transmission is possible. I think the only way to challenge this would be to push for constitutional amendments. You are definitely due for some. So are we.

As for vaccine injury, that’s been in place since 1986. The only way to overturn it would be an outright repeal. That means demanding that your elected representatives do just that. They still haven’t gotten Canada to adopt an administrative vaccine injury compensation system. We are one of the only nations left standing. I thought forced vaccination had guaranteed passage in one province (New Brunswick), but that failed in mid-June. So at least there’s that bit of good news. However, as expected, our Premier wants to order forced testing of migrant workers. If that happens, then anyone can be force tested.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jul 27, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Thank you for these replies.

Torontonian
Torontonian
Jul 30, 2020 8:21 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Not true that anyone can be force tested. I appreciate your concerns, but that statement is still to be determined in the future. Currently in Ontario (and several other provinces) there are vaccine exemption forms (found on the the MOH website)

Reg
Reg
Jul 26, 2020 12:28 AM

The damned iPhone has been programmed to drill you with covidchok fear . . .

https://www.neowin.net/news/apple-maps-now-asks-you-to-self-quarantine-if-youve-recently-traveled-internationally

Flu Vaccine is Covid Vac
Flu Vaccine is Covid Vac
Jul 25, 2020 11:14 PM

I have posted this comment already but it is such an important ‘Heads Up’ warning it needs spreading far and wide:

There is talk on various Alt-Media websites in both the UK and the US about this years annual Flu Jab / Flu Shot will not be the same as the previous years – some doses will actually be one of the many Covid vaccines being tested.

Apparently, there will be double-blind at least (more likely covert) tests of the best experimental Covid 19 vaccines carried out in various parts of the UK later this year under cover of the ‘Flu Jab’.

(Notice also how they have dropped the word ‘vaccine’ and replaced it with ‘shot’ or ‘jab’).

There have been a few comments on this website saying very similar things – such as “Flu vaccine will be a Trogan Horse for the Covid vaccine”, and “Boris Johnson wants children and pregnant women to get thier flu jab this year to save the NHS”.

It should be clear now to everyone that there is some much, much bigger agenda behind the push to have the entire planets population injected with this new Covid vaccine – so pretending it is just this years ‘Flu Jab’ will not be any issue to these people, and if you dont think the ‘Government’ would do that to thier own people a quick internet search will uncover many more equal and worse horrors carried out in the past.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 12:07 AM

I saw Gates in interview, saying that people may have health issues two years down the road because of the vaccine being rushed. ‘Governments would have to sort out indemnity packages’ he said.

That still astounds me. I would not be surprised however, if this batch of vaccines is benign, because they know how much opposition there is. But Gates wants regular vaccines and that’s when the sinister stuff will happen.

Politicians are evil actors who see humans as expendable.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jul 26, 2020 1:06 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

The Grayzone , which does actual investigative journalism published a lengthy synopsis of Gates’s foundations activities; including Africa, India, Polio, WHO, Tedros, Vandana Shiva, Monsanto and general big pharma/CDC/NIH profiteering.
Glad to see another trusted site resisting the NWO global reset, green new deal coup de planet.

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/08/bill-gates-global-health-policy/

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 1:36 AM
Reply to  ttshasta

I’ve been impressed by some Ben Norton articles.

I’m still suspicious however, because he’s friends with Max Blumenthal whose wife, fellow journalist Rania Khalek has been pushing the whole lockdown propaganda relentlessly, just the same as any mainstream media has.

It’s possible that The Greyzone is sophisticated narrative parameter management.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 1:55 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Correction. I made an error in my last comment.

Max Blumenthal is married to Anya Parampil.

Rania Khalek works for The Grayzone.

She tweeted: “Anti-lockdown protests want to normalise mass death”.

It’s actually the other way around. Lockdown will cause 100 times more death than a coronavirus. She’s parroting what the ruling class and Bill Gates want her to parrot.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 8:49 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

there is no evidence of any cv19 deaths but huge numbers directly coinciding with the lockdown terror campaign.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 8:52 AM
Reply to  Rachel

Agreed. And it is a terror campaign.

Every politician is a Quisling. They’re thinking of their careers and staying silent.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jul 26, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

It occurred to me after posting that Grayzone is very late to the Gates story.
I knew much of it before Covid. And learned much from James Corbett and this site. I thought Max and Ana Parampil were partners now.
Max’s dad is Clinton protege Sid Blumenthal. Thanks.

Flu Vaccine is Covid Vac
Flu Vaccine is Covid Vac
Jul 26, 2020 1:37 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Your point about the first batch of Covid 19 vaccinations being benign has been suggested by others too. Also the ‘Victorian Poisoner’ model has been put forward – ie that is small drops of ‘poison’ over an extended period gets the job done as a lot all at once (and the symptoms are attributed to other maladies as the person becomes ill, and gets worse). This would fit Gates plan for a regular / annual flu shot / covid shot.

Another very significant point raised by a Medical Doctor from South Africa (I will provide a link later) was the risk of issues presenting themselves 10 years hence – ie children given a vaccine which damages them in pre-puberty and results in sub-average fertility or even ‘sterilisation’.

Apparently various issues regarding reproductive health in Africa have already been linked to childhood vaccinations.

Also, another Doctor (Oncologist I think) suggested mutations could actually be induced in children who are given RNA based genetic treatment in the form of a ‘vaccine’.

It is likely a long game is being played here with short term goals of smashing the economy and forcing compliance and dependency, followed by medium term goals of medical tyranny / martial law, followed by population reduction.

I have read several articles which reference the CIA and MI6 linked “Deagel Report” and specifically the “Deagel 2025 economic and population projections”. The projections are truely sobering – more so as they are ‘officially’ supported with ‘official’ data from both the CIA and MI6, and other groups such as the WHO.

In a nutshell – massive economic collapse of the US, UK, and EU before 2025 with a population decline in the many 10’s of Millions.

The UK suffers more than most countries in the World and declines to economic levels and GDP closer to countries like Kazakstan. Population expected to drop to just 15 Million from 66 Million!

UK section: http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx

World charts and lists 2025: http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 27, 2020 3:19 PM

‘Population reduction’

Mass murder?

Fen Tiger
Fen Tiger
Jul 26, 2020 8:17 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Probably thinking of Guillain-Barré syndrome or something similar, which given it is a very rare reaction to flu vaccination, I’m amazed Gates was speculating there could be problems.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 8:20 AM
Reply to  Fen Tiger

Really? You’re amazed after all the compensation that’s been paid out for vaccine damage? Even aluminium adjuvants can make you feel sick for life.

Why would Gates talk about indemnity policies?

Fen Tiger
Fen Tiger
Jul 26, 2020 10:06 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I can understand Gates talking to governments privately about indemnity, but wonder what is gained by making this public in an interview. Is it meant to reassure the public? Like many others my personal experience of the medical establishment when treatments/drugs/interventions are found to be worse than the illness is closing ranks and denial, so what does he think he’s up to?

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 11:05 AM
Reply to  Fen Tiger

I believe he was talking freely, and to him, the human race is expendable.

NicS
NicS
Jul 27, 2020 12:25 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

As Ronald Reagan famously said, “government is the problem, not the solution”. At the time, I laughed and joined the sheeple who mocked him as “Ray-Gun”. Not any more.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 27, 2020 1:19 AM
Reply to  NicS

Reagan was a liar, because he used the ‘government’ to enable America’s endless imperialism.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 4:07 AM
Reply to  NicS

I upvoted both of you. Reagan’s quotes are some of my favourite ever by the Presidents. But he did triple the debt, brought in vaccine injury tribunals, brought in civil asset forfeiture, and dramatically expanded the War on Drugs, while said drugs were continually flown into L.A. and Mena, Arkansas.

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

And:

The economic policy of the United States can be summed up in three, simple phrases: “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if stops moving, subsidize it.”

These quotes are more relevant now, than ever. Government is not only the problem. They are the entire problem. We no longer have to ask what is the most effective mechanism of all-time for creating wealth inequality and disparity. It’s the lockdowns and they are a product of government. It doesn’t matter whether the system is fascist or not. When the growth of government and debt are exponential, the people will inevitably suffer. And both government and debt will be used by rarefied interests- completely devoid of morals- to seize power from the people. We must not obey. Not under any circumstances.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Jul 26, 2020 3:10 AM

” needs spreading far and wide:”

Ok, you have my attention.

”There is talk on various Alt-Media websites in both the UK and the US about this years annual Flu Jab / Flu Shot”

There’s talk in the same places that grey aliens are controlling the world leaders from area 51 too.Talk’s talk. Alt – media sites don’t make any decisions about jabs.

”Apparently, there will be double-blind at least (more likely covert) tests of the best experimental Covid 19 vaccines carried out in various parts of the UK later this year under cover of the ‘Flu Jab’.”

How apparent is ‘apparently’ ? Is there a source.

(Notice also how they have dropped the word ‘vaccine’ and replaced it with ‘shot’ or ‘jab’).

Who has ?

‘There have been a few comments on this website saying very similar things – such as “Flu vaccine will be a Trogan Horse for the Covid vaccine”, ”

Similar is different; not the same. I speculated that any vaccines or implants enforced that begin at Gates Towers will be Trojan horses as there can’t possibly have a real vaccine for a virus unless said virus has been isolated.So far, it hasn’t been.

The ‘Trojan Horse’ i implied Gates was pushing was carrying nothing to do with vaccines for covid or coronavirus. More like a tracking device and / or, eventually, remotely controllable behaviour – inducing device.When Gates talks ‘population control’ he means both by numbers and it’s behaviour.

” if you dont think the ‘Government’ would do that to their own people a quick internet search will uncover many more equal and worse horrors carried out in the past.”

You’re in a corner of the internet that has people alert to everything the governments have done in the past and are doing now.But this one is their most ambitious drill to date.The problem is trying to figure out what the drill is exactly for.

It seems clear that it isn’t a flu vaccine or genuinely evolved pandemic for sure. It comes at a time when the global economy is broken into fragments as are people and their freedom.It’s a cusp between global anarchy or a way to anaesthetize global discontent.This one has no Grey area and the consequences will be grave if the spinning coin lands on tails.

If biological weaponry and nano technology are weaponized in hybrid form it’s goodnight Vienna.Unless you’re a billionaire or politician of course.Hence their lack eagerness to ask any objective questions of the medical experts on this.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 25, 2020 10:59 PM

In Australia the chief medical officers have become so political they are literally terrorising the population over a very minor virus outbreak. We have spent over $250 million doing nearly 4 million tests that diagnose nothing at all, less than 14,000 people have been found to have some shards of corona in their bodies and are being locked up. In Victoria a few thousand people have something thanks to a corrupt system of privatised quarantine so 4 million people have been locked down by executive decree, no legislation at all, and forced to wear face nappies in public.

Intelligent people are dobbing in joggers for not wearing them, yet even WHO knows it’s dangerous to wear them while exercising.

The CMO’s have become goose stepping dictators.

JoeC
JoeC
Jul 25, 2020 10:55 PM

It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 25, 2020 10:51 PM

Warmongering talk on China – Greg Hunter wraps up the week.

Greg Hunter – Jul 24th https://youtu.be/zS0_LxpEVvo

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jul 26, 2020 2:59 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Greg Hunter may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, however his June 28 2020 interview with Catherine Austin Fitts is excellent. Worth 35 minutes, covers: finance, vaccines, robotics, AI, transhumanism, currency war, global reset, .. good questions and speculative answers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pb5-qkMdFM

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 25, 2020 10:41 PM

Weisdorf is a hero. Canada’s politicians and judiciary are corrupt fascism enablers.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 26, 2020 12:38 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Thank you. Apparently not everyone feels the same, judging from the down vote on your comment.

I just did what everyone should be doing. Freedom is never free. We must fight to keep it. Or we’ll lose it forever. Everyone must do their part. Speak out. Say something. Do something. Don’t comply. Don’t obey.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 1:46 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Thank you Chris. I’m not as brave as you, unfortunately.

For some reason someone is down voting lots of comments.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jul 26, 2020 5:23 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Even facts are down-voted. It’s trolling at work.

Watt
Watt
Jul 26, 2020 2:30 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

‘Apparently not everyone feels the same,’ …..I wouldn’t be too concerned.
Such a comment page as this seems to attract those who wish to divert,disrupt or otherwise derail threads of significance. Par, as they say..

NicS
NicS
Jul 27, 2020 1:02 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Trump supporters share your sentiments 100%. We fight growing control by the deep state, and its slow coup against an elected president. The swamp must be drained so that power to the people can be restored. Policies must be shaped and chosen by ordinary working Americans, not dictated by faceless experts beholden to the corrupt political, corporate or elitist interests which, prior to Trump, kept good control of both Congress and presidency, so hobbling our democracy. They screwed us and still do, despite Trump’s enormous effort against them. Now they incite violent revolt by leftist radicals to weaken the government, cause chaos and so defend against draining. But we Trumpers refuse to burn down and terrorise the cities and communities of our fellow Americans in order to force a political agenda upon a whole nation, or to blame race for causing our problems and divisions rather than the many years of inept, corrupt governors and Congressmen. Note that those ‘peaceful protestors’ rioting across so many US cities never wear Trump hats. But they can certainly spit at those who dare wear them, and then attack. How well the deep state controls and directs their hate and anger against ordinary people, their own compatriots! Will the haters ever even see the swamp?

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 4:20 AM
Reply to  NicS

I wrote this above:

I agree that Trump acted in good faith to attempt to correct the system. His senior advisor, Steve Bannon, said he wanted to crush the administrative state before Trump even took office. I also publicly predicted the day before he got elected that the administrative state will prevent Trump from enacting any significant change. This was well before the term “deep state” was ever used. Unsurprinsgly, Bannon was the first official to be jettisoned from the administration. Not long after, the US attacked Syria. I knew Trump was in big trouble after that. He’s held out as long as he could regarding the virus, but has capitulated. His pro-police state stance is ruinous and won’t get him the support he needs to win. I would say to anyone that, if you like more government and want more government power and regulation, you necessarily want more police- and the other way around. There is now talk of suspending posse comitatus indefinitely by Trump’s people, which is extremely dangerous. The same goes for those who think the problem can be solved with executive orders. It’s tyrannical, unsustainable and won’t end well. That said- Trump is an easy choice over someone who is guaranteed to be a sock puppet President. And wasn’t the Green New Deal costed out to be $93 trillion?!? Good God.

I should add that, if Trump could somehow surround himself with people who are not complete scum, that he would succeed. Unfortunately, the immense size and power of the US government corrupts all. Anyone who knows the inside of it is already bought and paid for. I didn’t like it when Trump started picking a number of generals for his cabinet. I knew every, single one of them would stab him in the back. Same with John Bolton, who is the worst of the worst. I knew Comey and Mueller would go after him and told friends that Trump should fire Comey on Day One. He didn’t and look what happened shortly thereafter. The developments surrounding General Flynn are welcome and long overdue, but Assange is still being tortured at Belmarsh prison and Manning is back in prison on suicide watch. I would like to believe that another Trump term will somehow change things, but the knives are out for him. Everyone with a functioning brain is saying that the lockdowns and mandatory masking will end on November 4th. The scum of the earth really want to own the presidency and they must not have it. No matter what, don’t comply. Don’t obey.

RobG
RobG
Jul 25, 2020 10:38 PM

Running a gite business in south west France we thought we were fecked earlier this year when everyone started cancelling their bookings.

Then the lockdown was lifted in France and we got a flood of bookings (all for one week) and all from French people.

Our latest guests are from Paris, and they were wearing face masks. I, of course, refuse to wear a face mask (and I could tell you another story about that). I did the ‘meet and greet’ and showed them around the house. When we got to the utility room the guests took off their face masks and relaxed.

Welcome to the real world. Welcome to sanity.

And bonnes vacances.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 11:10 AM
Reply to  RobG

I wish I was rich and that I could escape to a gite in the countryside somewhere, away from all the madness. Far from the madding Covid crowd.

paul
paul
Jul 25, 2020 10:31 PM

Most parking tickets in the UK are illegal.
The reason is as follows.
Parking restrictions are selected by the local authority, eg no parking in Acacia Avenue.
They are suppose to forward these to the Minister of Transport to be approved and signed off.
A lot of them are never sent off or signed off. Some of the ones that are, are lost or misplaced and cannot be produced.
So you request a court hearing and say, fine, show me the signed order and I will plead guilty.
They never can. Very few parking restrictions can be legally enforced.
They depend on people’s ignorance and passivity to get away with it.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 25, 2020 10:17 PM

UK Column Jul 24th reviews the ingenious home-made mask masque for those doing battle with pesky li’l Coroni. And it’s left him confused.

Coroni doesn’t attack British Transport Police while on duty, though he does strike when they clock off, so they should wear masks on the way home. Members of the emergency services responding to a Corona incident don’t need masks, because Coroni won’t attack them. Shop workers can spend 12 to 15 hours exposed to customers and Coroni won’t hurt them neither, no, missus, no.

Underpants, lettuce leaves and coffee filters all pass the BBC “make your own mask” test. (From 00:13:00 minutes)

Spiked Online found same people who were saying that Boris Johnson was “the biggest fascist evah” are now demanding lockdown fascism from the government. Support for masks, lockdown, COVID mirrors the BREXIT debate – the crisis gives people the opportunity to grandstand morally. Likewise BLM, big state and pro-China opinions. It’s clear that Democratics are using social distancing and masks as an election theme.

COVID-19 Law Lab is working on a global legal framework for combating Coroni.
Matt Hancock rolls out 3 billion pounds program for next flu season, beginning with the under-50s on the basis that children spread the flu. The Flu shot has never slowed the spread and virulence of flu – indeed research now suggests that Flu shots increase the risk of contracting other diseases. Is the Flu shot is now being associated in the public mind with COVID?

NHS Prepped for Privatization
UK Column speculates that the spending programme is intended to profit the NHS rather than to protect the people. The government has just written off all the NHS debt. That is consistent with preparing the NHS for privatisation.

Prof Sunetra Gupta says the UK has already reached herd immunity and existing T-cells are successfully fighting off infection – thus antibody tests do not reflect or indicate in any way the population’s vulnerability to COVID. She attacks politicians for claiming a vaccine could eliminate COVID. Viruses, she says, are part of being human. They will not go away.

Bloomberg continues to push marketing advertorial for Big Pharma suggesting that only a vaccine will save us and the UK is leading the race. UK government has contracted for millions of doses of an untested, untried vaccine. Has the UK government secretly contracted to pay even if the vaccine fails to get approval? There is some testing going on in Brazil. Why they are not testing it in the UK one can only guess.

Lockdown may (have) cost 200,000 lives, a report told the UK government in April. That was when government was running with the Imperial College model suggesting half a million deaths. The government went with the worst-case scenario just in case – a risk averse mentality is in fact taking huge risks at the public’s expense.

Questions people are asking their MPs.
Q: If COVID was present from autumn 2019, why were there no excess deaths between autumn 2019 until the introduction of Lockdown in late March 2020?

Coroni confused. He was not busy up until week 13 of the COVID Evenrt… nor was he busy in the three months before the UK alert began. There were no excess deaths until AFTER lockdown was implemented on March 23, 2020.

Q: Which individual authorized the fraudulent signing of death certificates to suggest people died from COVID?

For the UK government, Dan Poulter MP said the question was potentially libelous. It was defamatory and slanderous, he said, to ask who labeled deaths as due to COVID. So he refused to answer.

Journalist veers off script.
A Second Wave may be improbable but the Second Lockdown is inevitable, writes Sherelle Jacobs in The Daily Telegraph. As the UK government pays scientists to model the second wave, academics “struggle to combine those uneasy epidemiological bedfellows theory and evidence”.

The media should put its efforts into probing Government dishonesty and crooked scientists, says Jacobs.

William Binney’s press conference on Thursday revealed that DNC emails were removed with a USB stick – the hack did not happen and thus Russiagate was a hoax. Claims from British military that Russia and China are hacking relentlessly against the UK is presented without any proof by UK military propagandists 77th Brigade, 13th signals.

UK Column News – 24th July 2020 https://youtu.be/SY6-jkWQ6z4


Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 9:06 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

they are terrorising people claiming there is a “virulent” flu virus that “spreads”. basically the same ideolgy spread by the who or cnn that offers the cult opportunity to engender support for lockdown crimes. also terrorising people claiming there is a “flu season”.

Rachel
Rachel
Jul 26, 2020 9:26 AM
Reply to  Rachel

uk column also fails to provide the necessary warning of content containing signs of a lock down even showing a masked person in the thumbnail. one strike n u r out baby. https://youtu.be/laGBdZR3Edo

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Jul 26, 2020 11:13 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I wish I could laugh at this. But I can’t laugh at fascism.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jul 26, 2020 2:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Doesn’t it seem the US system is trying to bring Canada and UK disease care down to US levels, as in 20% of earnings?

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 25, 2020 10:15 PM

A nightmare worthy of Franz Kafka.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 26, 2020 12:34 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Kafka, plus Orwell and a pinch of Bradbury. That just about gets it right.

Ort
Ort
Jul 26, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Don’t leave out Philip K. Dick!

Reg
Reg
Jul 26, 2020 5:08 AM
Reply to  Ort

Huxley too.

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 4:25 AM
Reply to  Ort

I’ve read most of PKD’s stuff. Should’ve mentioned him even before Orwell, but I like Orwell’s quotes better.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 26, 2020 7:54 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Machiavelli waltzing with Kafka

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jul 26, 2020 6:59 PM

Plato’s Republic is the western wellspring of the current philosophical world view.

NicS
NicS
Jul 27, 2020 1:20 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Plato’s Republic is infamously totalitarian; the elite philosopher kings would have total control over various lower orders. Other western thinkers and experience later revealed such an authoritarian vision as an unstable and unethical basis for government, and developed democracy. Ironically, I’d say the communist system of today’s China most resembles the Republic. They got colonised by the equally authoritarian ideology of other dead white western thinkers: Marx and Lenin. But I’m unsure if that is what you mean by the ‘current philosophical world view’.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jul 27, 2020 1:59 AM
Reply to  NicS

Agreed it is totalitarian but works in all forms of tyranny be it capitalism or communism. The point being the ruling cabal must agree on a set of lies and always promote and defend them , by punishing and or killing those who successfully dissent , that is point out the lies forcefully enough to cause the masses to become uneasy..

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 27, 2020 4:27 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

“Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it’s the other way around.”

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jul 27, 2020 1:47 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Sometime in the 1960s I heard TC Douglas , at one time named as Canada’s most popular politician say that. He was the prime mover behind Canada’s now failing universal health care system , now being sliced and diced by multinational interests and rotten quisling politician in that US satrapy.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 27, 2020 3:32 PM
Reply to  NicS

We are not supposed to forget when The Republic was written.
The world was nothing like the same place it is today, and we Brits lived in caves. EVERYTHING back then was totalitarian.
There may be great truths which are valid for practically all time, but other truths are children of their time – perhaps even nothing more than fashions. To my mind, Plato covers both.
He had a much wider perspective on life and its meaning than your average educated man today, and a thorough reading of The Republic reveals a lot of wisdom and insight which is still desperately needed.
There are also other works of his which delve, almost humorously, into the intricacies of morality and which provide fascinating food for the thought of modern man, even if we might reach different conclusions.
I am pretty certain Plato would have ridiculed, and made mincemeat out of modern Chinese philosophy, even if he might have acknowledged one or two of its positive aspects. He was obviously a courteous man, even when he disagreed with people.