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Alexandr Lukashenko – a president with scruples

John Goss

One day at the beginning of April this year I had an awakening. It dawned on me that Russia had been leaned upon to change its policy regarding COVID-19. By that time the virus had spread through the UK like wildfire and was reaching its peak whereas in Russia there had been few infections and very few deaths.

It disturbed me that Russia Today (RT), a favoured TV channel, had changed course. It had always been a safe harbour in which to dock alternative viewpoints and seek solace from the lies and dogma of our own major news broadcasters. With the exception of events of 9/11 Russia Today seemed to offer a refreshing and often incisively critical insight into world affairs, throwing new light on the Skripal affair and the alleged chemical attacks in Syria, among other worthy reporting.

When the viral spread of SARS-COV-2 hit the west, forcing lockdowns and facial masks, RT was praising Russia’s efforts in controlling the spread and keeping deaths to a minimum. By all measures it looked like Russia had bucked the trend and everything was under control. Suddenly all that changed. News readers, regular anchors and reporters were pushing a totally different message. In essence the coronavirus rhetoric had gone east. Accompanying footage suddenly contained repetitive images of people wearing masks and RT’s UK viewers were being advised to follow the guidelines on lockdown for our own safety and the safety of others. I might just as well have been watching the BBC.

It made me question, and I guess many other RT viewers questioned it too. Who had such control of the Russian media? After all RT is 100% state-owned. Was the Russian Bank (RosBank) behind the change? Rosbank is also 100% state-owned so there would be little reason to have done an about turn over COVID-19 unless the Russian government had also had a change of policy. I concluded that some ultra-powerful entity must have been behind the change, some entity with more clout than the state.

While Russian deaths started rising to US, UK elevations, its near neighbour Belarus was containing COVID-19 in the way I was expecting Russia to have done, the way South Korea was still doing. The most likely reason for the Russian policy change has only come to light within the last week or two. Tyler Durden posted an article in GreatGameIndia.com which showed that the Belarus president, Alexandr Lukashenko, had been offered a bribe to adopt the same measures Italy had adopted – that is lockdown, curfews, masks and other severe restrictions.

In an act of integrity rarely found in world leaders Lukashenko refused the bribe. Africa, which has had a very low infection and death-rate from COVID-19, has likewise had several of its countries targeted by multi-billion cash-cows – WHO and Bill Gates – which pretty well amounts to Bill Gates since he is one of the biggest donors to WHO. African countries which have been offered bribes include Tanzania, Burundi and Madagascar. It can hardly be assumed they are alone.

Meanwhile in Belarus life has gone on as normal. Football spectators have continued to go to matches and the season is in full swing with cup matches currently being played. According to the United Nations Human Rights Council a few companies have encouraged employees to work from home. Opposition outlets cast doubt on Lukashenko’s lack of action over lockdowns, curfews and tracing. Towards the end of March Yuliana Volkova wrote an article designed to raise panic among Belarus residents in much the same way our media has succeeded.

She cited instances of generosity from the private sector for PPI equipment to hospitals, raised fears about Russians who had visited Thailand or Florence and were now in Belarus hospitals, stating that hospitals were full of patients who were only ever diagnosed as having pneumonia. She finished her alarmist piece by saying she hoped all this was just panic and psychosis. And so it proved to be.

Today, August 9th, Belarus is holding its presidential elections. Svetlana Tikhonovskaya is the main opposition candidate. She recently commandeered a rally in Minsk of some 18,000 to 63,000 supporters. But she is a substitute. A month earlier the main opposition candidate had been banker, Viktor Babariko, the head of Belgazprombank, who was arrested in June.

Babariko, saw himself as an ideal candidate since he believed the country needed a manager after Lukashenko’s mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic. He told Meduza that during the pandemic “the government showed incredible neglect.” Babariko is a great believer in loans and quite clearly would be willing to snap the hands off the World Bank with its COVID-19 bribes – and just as willing to pay the forfeits attached.

Babariko, who was often seen wearing a face-mask even though few of his supporters do, is being held on charges of embezzlement. He has also been accused of engaging in official authority abuse and withdrawals from banks in Cyprus, London and Latvia. He faces up to four years in prison on the embezzlement charges. Investigations into his bank, a sister bank of the Russian Gazprom, have been ongoing since 2016. While he is ensconced Svetlana Tikhonovskaya stands in his place. If elected she has agreed to release Babariko and call fresh elections.

On 28 July a contingent of Russian mercenaries were arrested in Belarus. They are members of a private military company called “Wagner” and the purpose of their presence in the country is being investigated. Lukashenko believes they may have been sent to destabilise the elections while Russia denies any involvement.

In a broadcast on the 4th of August Lukashenko again raised the issue of the 33 militants, though mostly his speech was about internal affairs. He added that there was knowledge of another detachment having been sent to the south and that these militants would be caught too. A spokeswoman for the Russian government, Maria Zakharova, said there was no proof that the Russians arrested were guilty.

Lukashenko has been in power for 26 years and is seeking a sixth term. He recently told a national security meeting that he had himself suffered from COVID-19 without showing any symptoms. “97% of the population is asymptomatic” he said, adding that the rest of the world was suffering from what he called “coronapsychosis”.

Whatever happens in the election on today if there is a change in leadership it will mean another World Bank controlled state, with restricted visits to the beaches – although landlocked they do have beaches – social distancing, face masks and all the other constraints including a lack of leisure and sports activities, indeed everything concomitant with a locked-down state! The choice is the people’s.

By this time tomorrow, we will know just how wise they are.

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Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 12, 2020 9:48 PM

Mailman here. The Saker (a descendant of White Russian refugees) on this failed Anglo Zionazi Capitalist attempt to do a Ukraine on White Russia:

“Personally, I can only repeat that I have zero confidence in Lukashenko and I don’t believe that an independent Belarus is viable. The only solution I see is a full [re]integration of Belarus into Russia.
The Saker”

https://thesaker.is/a-quick-update-on-belarus/

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 12:58 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Sounds about right, but A. L. has still been useful to anti-AngloZioNazism. Give him that. Quite recently, too.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 1:32 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

He stood alone in Belarus over a quarter century past, in his vote to preserve the USSR. Seems like it might not be that hard a sell, to have him fold back Belarus into Russia’s “tent”. But he’s been running the whole show for nearly as long, so he may be used to it.

And things have changed!

Still, big issues of sovereignty of all kinds hang in the balance meanwhile. Whatever holds water should be the main goal, compared to the leaky alt.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 13, 2020 9:12 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

That doesn’t count for quite as much as you may think. My mother was born in what is now White Russia. My father was born in what is now Ukraine. But this does not make me a an undisputed font of knowledge on those countries and the region…however I do possess strong opinions, mainly because of the appalling slaughtering of innocent children, women and men that various totalitarians have dispensed upon the populations throughout history in this part of the world.

Of course Uncle Sam is working on destabilising White Russia, we’ve known this for decades, but the President has been pretty much a fan of Stalin and deployed his tactics. That obvious l to anyone who’s been watching the country longer than the past few months. In fact he’s been ruthless, so much so that Putin has kept him at arm’s length for decades.

However, strategically, Putin will not allow for White Russia to come under US influence however. He’ll stop at nothing to prevent that.

I suspect that Lukashenko was likely offered a massive bribe by Pompeo who visited last year. A staged Orange Revolution which would not be opposed and Lukashenko slips quietly away. Alternatively, Putin pays him handsomely to integrate the country back to Russia.

Either way, events in and around this country can most definitely lead to a hot war, and quickly so, and which could even engulf the region or wider. Dangerous times ahead.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 6:47 PM

This current item speaks volumes, if only via trilogies:

The Guardian (you’ll hold the applause, 77, or else) reports that the “protesters” (loosely called by CIA, operatives) of Lukashenko’s re-election (word works for me) were using the internet to organize for action in “small groups of 20” and he throttled down all the online usage to quell them.

So, they were planning to storm the barricades while socially distancing?

Holy good night, that’s more ambitious as choreography than EVEN some of the BLM Pro-Tests I’ve seen!

No wonder he pulled the plug. That’s not dictatorship. He’s just acting as any sane leader would, to flatten the curve of yet another corporate outbreak of (what he’s dubbed) “CoronaPsychosis”.

(I hope someone’s remembering to get some of this in a Time Capsule. Future alien invaders will not believe it otherwise. And that’s just not right.)

hope
hope
Aug 12, 2020 5:43 PM

I tried finding out if Russia has taken out IMF and/or World Bank laons. If I understood correctly it currently has no IMF loans. Seemingly it has paid off most of its WB loan, though it still is paying back some. Searching I found that in 2014 they’d taken some loan from them, but could not find any new recent ones.

So would that little bit of outstanding WB loan be sufficient to have made Russia instate strong measures?

If I remember correctly it closed its borders very early. That in itself means that when Lavrov criticized other nations for over-reacting, Russia was already behaving as though it believed there was something going on. Then shortly after Lavrov’s comments, severe measures were imposed.

Its extremely hard, unless one speaks Russian and knows where, if anywhere, to find investigative journalistic news about Russia, to really know the reasons behind Russia’s position, especially given that Putin must know that not so long ago, in the 1990s millions died of hunger and malnutrition. So why put his population through inordinate hardship again before the country has regained more stability than it has?

Why has Lavrov gone so silent since those comments?

Is this because Russia thought that it would have the West on its back if it did not pretend to follow the narrative? But it could then have had some lighter measures…
Anyhow, the more you try to appease someone determined to stifle you by ceding, is that not the best way to make that someone more determined? Anyhow anti-Russian rant is as bad as ever, so it did not help.

Is it because it thought that there may have been a use of bio-weapons and wished to protect its population from it? Frankly if that was the case, would it not be better for a government to come out clean with its citizens. Russians know about external threats, they’d have then knowingly sacrificed.

Unless someone gives me evidence of a good reason, Im afraid Id say Russia is a very weak country, much weaker than we thought (somehow Syria and Ukraine appear to have brought many of us to think otherwise) and subservient to interests of a mainly West-centered cabal. Just like the the USSR let down the entire 3rd world because the Russian elites made their country collapse like a packet of cards for the sake of a Macdonalds culture, and since then the former 3rd world has been fully integrated into the global world order, it might be foolish of anyone to count on Russia…
Certainly like China, Russia wont attack anyone, thats contrary to their ways of thinking,
but they cannot be relied upon to get out of the dystopian mess we’re in, or any other mess.

Some think the Russian vaccine is a placebo, a form of joke on the narrative.

But frankly in this world of deceit, had Russia , stood its ground, held its head high, and said there is no pandemic, we go on as usual. Or been upfront and honest about its motivations, and explained we’re afraid there may be a bio-weapon issue and hence said we will at least close our borders so no foreigner comes in with some such weapon. Then today Russia would be in so powerful, so powerful because it would have destroyed the entire dystopian scenario from taking place.

Thats the problem: leaders of today, including Putin (he may be more intelligent than the others, but given the average level, this is not saying much), have forgotten that in end honesty pays. Otherwise you get entangled in webs of lies, and that is never good.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 12, 2020 10:36 AM

It’s bizarre how COVID can be weaved into the Belarus Presidential election to create a fictitious narrative.

LeRuscino
LeRuscino
Aug 11, 2020 1:57 PM

Great article & glad I’m not alone in seeing how Russia buckled like pathetic cowering child snivelling after being slapped by the bully !

RT went full CNN to a point that I don’t watch it’s news feed anymore but I do see that the commenters have a more stoic & honest resolute waiting for the broken RT to get off her knees.

Belarus & Lukashenko ! Now a shining light – After this Covid Scam that will turn our children into farmed animals with a Gates Vaccine working in tandem with 5G to operate the resultant zombie robots at the master’s will – Who to vote for & when to die!

The World has never ever been in a darker place.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 5:04 AM
Reply to  LeRuscino

That’s hard to dispute, a dark act it is right now.

So The Guardian came along at just the perfect moment with Belatusian reportage that kills by conedy, it’s that hysterical. Lukashenko has cut off govt internet, as protesters (cf. Iran ’53 andvCIA false flag demos) ponder how to socially distance their planned storming of the barricades:

The largest is Nexta, which has more than 1,151,000 subscribers, and has been a key clearing house for videos from this week’s protests and for instructions to protesters. On Tuesday evening, it told its readers to meet at 7pm in small groups of less than 20 and to occupy the streets. “Paralyse the city!”

Paralyse the city! But socially distance so we don’t go off corporate script. They’re cutting our checks!

I’m crying! (😅)

mikael
mikael
Aug 11, 2020 11:46 AM

I am responding to two main issues as once, one is to the file linked by Caltrop, dont forget this is written by an Polak, not by an Finn, and whats said about the attacks on Finns is genuine, thru the politics against Russia since Finns had an substancial comers with Russia even back to the Sovjet times, the damages done to the Finnish ind. is also substancial since I come from an part of Finland that have been loosing big on this insane crawling infront of the UssAs Gov, incl Trumpstein, and the same goes to Norway, the hate propaganda against Russia and by large the same sniveling drivel about Finns, somehow, the Norwegians hate Finns, I know, because I have been attacked for just been a Finns with inuendos and downright hate.
I come from an centurys old family whom have fought for Finns and died for Finland, and been hunted down by the Bolsheviks and lost land (Bjarmia and Laponia and I am a genuine Varangian), and I maybe a lot of things but I will never ever be an traitor to the Finnish people and nation, and my hart and soul have bleed when I have watched Finland been destroyed from within, like a lot of other nations to the insane corruption and treason comitted by the last decades of the Gov in Helsinki, the same for Oslo in Norway.
The problem is both contrys to day are nothing but spitliking whatever the UssA Gov to any given time means about the Russians and have destroyed a lot of trade witch have been conducted for milleniums, incl way before the Russians as known as Gardarike, the Realm of Garda, which where more or less Finnish speaking and Finnish people, the Russian language comes from Finnish, etc, and in the North of Norway the idiot propaganda dont bite as much as it dues on the south, the same for Finland, and nothing is done because the UssA Gov keeps everything down to an minimum, like railroad prodjects witch would have benefitte both nations and made the trade into Russia much easier, but no, and its in no way better to this day.

Then comes the problems with this link, its written by an Polak, and Polaks have no crediblity what so ever, and the Nazi nonsense is even worse, when will the rotten Polaks start to talk about what really happened, well, so far, they havent, even the run up to ww2 is clouded with manure and lies, and so on, I end it there since I know if I continued the smell of burned fuses would be to strong, and my warning is, nothing of what this Polak says is true, about Finland, that is, but as before, the master liers and scammers always hide their lies inbedded inside other issues/cases as this truth about the Americans and their insane evil Gov. Democartic or republican, if you think that means anything you are indeed been fooled, that means nothing, absolutelly nothing, since iits about full spectrum dominance, and when I say that, I mean it by the full extent off it, they will continue to we are all slaves, incl the stupid Polaks.

The Belaruss is just expiriencing the full focus from the same force as before and other color revolutions, but I agrees for once with Fakers writings, the Orcs in Ukraina and Belaruss fooled Russians into an trap, and made that to be some drivel saga about an invading force or whatever, and Luckyshanko is selling His soul to the Bankers from the west, just watch.
I dont even know if I have symphaty, with Belarussians nor the Orcs, because they belived the lies, and even when reality shows that this western help isnt anything than whats defined as an good old fasion road robbery, by the western/UssA robber barons, the same game is played right now as we speak in Lebanon.
Humans never learn, do we.
History repeats it self, first as an tragedie, and secondly as an farse.
Belaruss is going down, and Putin the Lame cant do anything, and I start to wounder, what on earth is going on in Russia, I warned you Russians, the road to hell is on track, 10 years from now and Russia will be crushed, I have explained it before and i dont bother to do that again, just watch, from Murmask/Murmans Oblast to Belaruss and all the way to Caucasus.
And Putin is just sitting there and does nothing, yeah, briliant moves, right, morons.

peace

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 11, 2020 11:09 PM
Reply to  mikael

“ Putin the Lame”

Desperate, desperate …lol.

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 11, 2020 9:15 AM
John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 1:22 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Dont blame him for the weather, or the masonic number of agents caught. It caught my eye, but probably not his doing. Just guessing.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 11, 2020 6:04 AM

From a White Russian source:

Putin and Russia are facing a very serious crisis in Belarus
https://thesaker.is/putin-and-russia-are-facing-a-very-serious-crisis-in-belarus/

If I remember correctly, the name BeloRus originally meant White Russia; same as the name Ukraine originally meant West Russia. And if I get his drift, the Saker seems to think that Uncle $cam is planning to carve out an Ukraine-style anti-Russian vassal state from yet another disjointed border fragment of the former USSR.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 11, 2020 1:33 AM

My Bad: “the only deputy of the Belarusian parliament to vote against disdolution of Soviet Union.”

Wiki put that in its header capsule. The details of Soviet bloc satellites are a bit outside my wheelhouse, but I intend to brush up, or on.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 11, 2020 6:14 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

The Saker seems a good place to start our brushing up. His family were White Russian exiles, himself leans to the Left, and he lives in the U$A; one might expect a well rounded view.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 9:46 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Ive been reading the Saker. And hs current take. Interesting bloke, Monsieur Andrei Raevsky? It’s a testy situation. A.L. has strong leadership qualities, so let’s hope he can navigate this nimbly. Hard to do when populists are being handed bottomless briefcases of gold bullion, shtraight outta Langley.

But win, lose, or draw, he’s already done masked homo sapiens some lukashenkian-sized favors. Go get ’em, big guy!

(I once had lunch often with a very kind White Russian, some weeks every weekday, in Paris, when they were letting me practice their handsome Pleyel grand piano in the Cathedral, a coté du bureau. I didn’t even know who she was, or her truly fascinating history at the time, Leonida Georgievna, but the home page at imperialhouse.ru has a recent piece about her, in celebration of her 10th Anniversary, just this May. On the weekends at Mass then, someone in fresh news, that dearly-departed-Dame, Olivia de Haviland used to pour the stragglers coffee, of a Sunday morning on ave. George V. That was 1974 when I was still wet enough behind the ears not to know who these people were, not a few of whom would giggle at me, in a very patrician way. I knew that she was the 1st female Lector there, and she did that too each Sunday til 2012. 96!

Georgievna had invited me below the coffee room to the “Cave” for a quick bite to eat before “la répétition” because it was no secret I was a “starving artiste” , & then she got me a job as a hotel clerk in exchange for a room and breakfast that winter. (Saved my life probably, I’d been evicted from a cheap hotel Christmas Eve in a dank Paris winter that saw a rare snow.)

But all that was a long family tradition: her father had got a room and food for Gorky when he showed up as a starving lad in Tbilisi late 1800s. They were nice people, if a little hoy paloy for a tovarisch. You ask me, it’s a good (life insurance) policy to aid young starving artists: you never know but one maygrow up to be a Gorky with a soft spot! It’s a great investment.

And that’s what saved all *their* lives, too, apparently: when Stalin was set probably to execute them after the commies took over, his fellow Georgian tovarisch, Maxim Gorky, spoke up for them, “No, Joe, NYET ~ these really are very good people, just let them leave Russia and go somewhere else,” which turned out to be Madrid and Paris.

Which is why they were still standing, when I met her.

I found out all this backstory when she passed in 2010, and other interesting stuff.

A gaudy reference, sans doute, but I apply it here as some of that interesting stuff still resounds very much, over there.

Like every enclave, I get the sense that the White Russians are a very mixed bag, as Saker would seem, himself.

Then there is George de Mohrenschildt, on the flip side of the coin, Oswald’s enabler, and another Kennedy Coup-related supervillain, hideous, also a staged suicide like the “Old Man”.

But not a few of them acted so nobly that they were taken for saints, and voilà, some canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church. There was one who was thrown down a mine shaft by the Bolsheviks in 1917, and they were stunned when they marched back by a week later to hear her leading her other charges in singing Russian hymns. (Hope it was Rachmaninoff.)

Like Tale of 2 Cities, Dickens took pains to draw portraits of each, some of the royals were among the best patriots, and people, and some of les sans culottes were on the right side of La Marianne, but already rotten.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 10:23 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I sing this guy’s songs, chansons fières et révolutionnaires, (“et les braves gens n’aiment pas que l’on suive une autre route qu’eux; tout le monde viendra me voir pendu…Sauf les aveugles, bien entendu…”) when I busk. Kind of a héro, Monsieur G. Brassens. WHAT would he croon today?!

As G. Marchais would say, “C’tun SCANDALE!!!”:

“Nous vivons un siècle pourri. Les plus grands assassins vont aux plus grands messes et sont les favoris des plus grands rois.”*

~Georges Brassens

[* “We live out one rotten century. The biggest assassins go to the biggest Masses and are the darlings of the biggest kings.”]

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 13, 2020 7:32 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

John, thanks for this reminder (and the one above) of the quality which Europe used to possess in abundance: individuals, quite unlike one another, who thought for themselves.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 8:04 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Je vous en prie. I think the vanishing breed has been accelerated in its departure by “fascism-creep” just like a terminal disease, but seemingly like a cancer that engulfs humanity itself. I spotted it even as a tiny child: almost everyone I met, either fearful conformism, or a strangely conformist lunacy, avoidance of real beauty, trivialization of values. Well, it was ’50s LA, after all! 1970s Paris was better by far than anyplace USAmerican. I remember thinking as early as 3, “This is going to be a rough go, sir, you’ve got your work already piled high.”

I like what Giovanni Montini said, 20 years before he became Pope Paul VI: “Faith prepares for better days.”

Graham Greene had lunch with him, when Montini was Pope, and he said he admired one of Greene’s books. Greene questioned this, “But don’t you know it’s been censured by the Holy Office?!”

Pope Paul’s reply was slyly sweet, “Some Catholics will always have problems with some of your books. I wouldn’t worry about that.”

Greene finishes that chapter of his memoirs in “A Sort of Life” with a classic truancy of his, “Advice which I found it easy to accept.”

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 13, 2020 9:23 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

@John Ervin: “I like what Giovanni Montini said, 20 years before he became Pope Paul VI: “Faith prepares for better days.”

I like that saying. It now explains why I was never happy with more well known saying, “Faith is evidence of things unseen”; Faith is not logical proof of the something better, it is a psychological driving force toward making something better.

That view of Faith also throws light on the difference between Zionism and Zionazism. There are two Zions: the Earthly Zion where expansionist settlers expel natives, and the Heavenly Zion or Holy Land, toward which strive all People of the Book. Faith is their driving force toward building a Heavenly kingdom on Earth. And not only in Palestine:

“I shall not rest from mental strife
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant Land” — Wm.Blake

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 11, 2020 12:05 AM

DID A 2003 FICTION TV SHOW REALLY PREDICT CHYNA.VIRUS.18+1 AND THE CURE!??”
THE BCP REPORT

Tamsyn
Tamsyn
Aug 12, 2020 8:39 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Look up British made Utopia from 2013. Much better production. As Bill Hicks said, it really is all a ride. Shocking.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 14, 2020 12:51 PM
Reply to  Tamsyn

I think the main point is that this series was made 17 years ago.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 10, 2020 11:10 PM

EXPOSED: World Bank Coronavirus Aid Comes With Conditions For Imposing Extreme Lockdown, Reveals Belarus President
July 27, 2020

Huge foreign loans are given to sovereign nations by the World Bank, IMF and the likes. But the conditions that come attached to these loans are seldom told by governments to their citizens. A recent case in Belarus has exposed the conditions laid by these agencies for loans being provided for COVID-19.

The President of Belarus has exposed that the World Bank coronavirus aid comes with conditions for imposing extreme lockdown measures, to model their coronavirus response on that of Italy and even changes in the economic policies which he refused as being “unacceptable”.

At the same time, he stressed that additional conditions which do not apply to the financial part are unacceptable for the country.

“We hear the demands, for example, to model our coronavirus response on that of Italy. I do not want to see the Italian situation to repeat in Belarus. We have our own country and our own situation,” the president said.

According to the president, the World Bank has showed interest in Belarus’ coronavirus response practices.

“It is ready to fund us ten times more than it offered initially as a token of commendation for our efficient fight against this virus. The World Bank has even asked the Healthcare Ministry to share the experience. Meanwhile, the IMF continues to demand from us quarantine measures, isolation, a curfew. This is nonsense. We will not dance to anyone’s tune,” said the president.

Belarus is one of the only European countries that has not implemented strict coronavirus containment measures. The no-restriction situation is such that even the non-essential services remain open. The football league of Belarus is still being played. The only restriction kind-of step that Belarus took till now is that the school holidays have been extended.

…………….It was also revealed in an intercepted human intelligence report that Bill Gates offered $10 million bribe for a forced Coronavirus vaccination program in Nigeria. After which, an Italian politician demanded the arrest of Bill Gates in the Italian parliament. She also exposed Bill Gates’ agenda in India and Africa, along with the plans to chip the human race through the digital identification program ID2020.

https://greatgameindia.com/belarus-world-bank-coronavirus-conditions/

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 11, 2020 1:24 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

This from WikiP’s bio:

“Lukashenko heads an authoritarian regime in Belarus.[5][6] Elections are not free and fair, opponents of the regime are repressed, and the media is not free.”

They call that reporting, there. Encyclopedic kind.

Whew! For a moment I thought they were talking about “our” MSM. Almost fooled me.

Apparently this was not the first time he stood alone against a strong tide: he was the only member of the last USSR Politburo who voted against the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

That would make some Western pundits cranky long-term.

Sounds a lot like an eastern Castro.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Aug 11, 2020 2:08 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Report on fraud and threats against Finnish citizens, companies and nation; police evidence and key facts for Finland’s prosecution of Wikipedia fundraising fraud   

“…………..Top Wikimedia administrators with Jimmy Wales, show zero interest in ‘knowledge’ or correcting false information – instead, a perverted joy in publishing lies to slander and murder. The files for upcoming Belgian and EU proceedings show hundreds of complaints about the lies about me on Wikipedia; Wikipedia’s continued refusal to remove lies and defamations; and a stream of hate mail and abuse from top Wikipedia administrators, such as David Gerard, Wikipedia chief in London. No Wiki figure ever expressed the slightest concern for truth, intellectual honesty, or correcting false information – All Wiki administrators who replied acted like arrogant psychopaths working for the CIA, which is of course who they are…………”

https://pastebin.com/BeppgiMJ

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 6:23 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Well, “consider the source”. As long as the info at Wikipedia is about something they don’t care about, it can be useful. Without really knowing the subject, a crap shoot.

I actually prize the site for its omissions: what they try so hard to suppress or omit is as good as eyewitness. It’s really a rather useful proof in reverse.

$4$&£4£~

“The CIA doesn’t care what you do as long as it’s something they want you to do.”

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 6:15 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Instead of “only member of last USSR Politburo” read: “only deputy of Belarusian parliament to vote against dissolution of USSR”.

(I tried to correct that at the time of writing, but the comment was flagged for waiting, then vanished in a wormhole awhile. Now it’s back, so I did.)

Tamsyn
Tamsyn
Aug 12, 2020 8:42 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Wouldn’t it be fabulous to have a list of the acceptees to hand. How much for the uk as opposed to say Thailand who are already a nation of whores anyway.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 10, 2020 10:43 PM

Is George Soros or the Ukrainians behind the protests in Belarus?
Something fishy going on there.

Called out the IMF and their controlled demolition of your economy to be enslaved with 900million debt didn’t go down well im sure.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 10, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

That is what is being speculated. They’re not satisfied with turning their own country into a failed state with the first civil war in almost a century. They seek to undo their neighbour too. George Soros is usually funding the colour revolutions. People should be aware that the almost plausible Open Democracy has Soros money behind it.

Jonathan Jarvis
Jonathan Jarvis
Aug 10, 2020 9:48 PM

Southfront has the truth regarding the “mercenaries”….all a set up by ukraine.
https://southfront.org/evidence-surfaces-of-ukrainian-special-services-orchestrating-arrest-of-russians-in-belarus/

To cause an upset….split Belarus Russia relationship…enable the western media and interested parties to spread their russophobic intentions ….kinda prove the existence of the or a Wagner and other private Putin forces…..to encourage and invite western powers and politicians to step into Belarus and support the loser opposition over fixed elections remove Lukashenko the usual agenda etc etc

Paul
Paul
Aug 10, 2020 8:14 PM

This evening RT’s News is very focused on Belarus with talk of Revolution etc as in Beirut. So are the Russian mercenaries there to promote a Regime Change? Maybe they want to get there before Nato? The Minsk police, described as ‘brutal’ by RT are less intimidating than a police van in Tottenham and currently are getting attacked. They even have a Western stooge saying the End Is Nigh for the Evil Dictator. Etc

Tamsyn
Tamsyn
Aug 12, 2020 8:48 AM
Reply to  Paul

I went completely off RT when it became obvious they had taken the shilling and even their livestreaming Ruptly, the only site filming the Yellow Shirts, started filming ‘footage of corona virus morgues in Paris’. That one was downvoated to oblivion.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Aug 10, 2020 10:34 PM
Reply to  alex posoukh

Off-G needs to do a book review ASAP!

Is it available in paper form? Can you get it from anywhere besides Amazon?

alex posoukh
alex posoukh
Aug 10, 2020 10:37 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I sent them a link….

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Aug 11, 2020 3:54 AM
Reply to  alex posoukh

In my reading of what is available for preview on Amazon, I saw a number of spelling errors, dates wrong (like COVID happening in the year 2000),etc. Maybe if you intend on publishing a hard-copy, have someone scrutinize it closely. Given the need to get in out there in public view ASAP, I can understand why the errors might be there.

Alex posoukh
Alex posoukh
Aug 11, 2020 4:23 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Cheers, thanks a lot for the feedback, I was writing it rather quickly. If you see anything that jumps out, please let me know. I am horrible at proofreading.

alex posoukh
alex posoukh
Aug 11, 2020 4:29 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Also, I can send you a Word file if you wish

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Aug 11, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  alex posoukh

I would like that.

alex posoukh
alex posoukh
Aug 11, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Please give me your email

alex posoukh
alex posoukh
Aug 11, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Aug 10, 2020 7:40 PM

From the article:
“…[W]ith the exception of events of 9/11 Russia Today seemed to offer a refreshing and often incisively critical insight into world affairs…”

Well, maybe this explains everything. As COVID-19(84), the lockdown, fear promotion, coming contact tracing, mandatory vaccines, Global Reset etc. all benefit the concentration of power among elites, that is, the ruling classes of all countries, it makes sense that some “conspiracies” are for them the goose the laid the golden egg, too profitable to pass up. As has been noted elsewhere, for the New Normal to be instituted in the countries doing it now, there had to be elite consensus.

polistra
polistra
Aug 10, 2020 6:14 PM

I had the same sense of disappointment when Putin abandoned ship and joined the lockdowners. Before that moment he was usually on God’s side. Now I can’t believe anything he says. He’s just another Sorosian.

Belarus and Turkmenistan are carrying on the strength of the Soviet tradition. Unlike Sorosian capitalists, the Soviet system NEEDS its people and VALUES the skills of its workers. When you NEED people, you don’t want to ruin their work and lives with lockdowns and masks. You want them to remain healthy and useful.

Sorosian capitalists don’t need people. They can simply manufacture fake “value” at will. So they’re free to kill all the people, which is exactly what they’re doing right now.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Aug 10, 2020 4:18 PM

Unusual phenomena resulted in two new psychological terms emerging over the last few years–the first term surfaced in 2017 and was quickly coined “Trump Derangement Syndrome” referring to liberals who could not accept war criminal Hillary’s loss– the second term “COVID/psychosis” surfaced in 2020 in Belarus and it pertains to all those who’ve embraced the germaphobic reality generated by an international medical mafia.

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 10, 2020 10:50 AM

Lukashenko elected and riots in Minsk. The usual scenario with “agitators” claiming fraud and trying a Ukraine style uprising. Meanwhile over in Beirut the western stooge Macron flies in and is falling over himself offering mega riches courtesy of the the criminal IMF and World Bank to provide “aid” to help Lebanon on its road to “recovery”. If the Lebanese people can see through this insidious interference in their affairs they may have a future.
Over here in UK Lockdown la la Land we can all sleep easy knowing that a resolute BBC intends to bring back Strictly Come Dancing this year with Covid restrictions of course. A Masked Ball may be more appropriate.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 11, 2020 12:14 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Well,. it should have been regime change if our media were to be believed. I’ve seen something like this before with Iran. There was an election and it certainly looked to the Western media that a significant change was in the offing. The results were completely different and a bit disappointing. It didn’t prove a conspiracy so much as demonstrate that Tehran wasn’t the rest of Iran. Its probably the same in Belarus — there may be a significant group of people in Minsk who would love a wesern style government but Minsk isn’t the whole of Belarus.

Beruit follows a different script. There’s a disaster which is obviously a signal for the entire makeup and outlook of the government to change to a more Western oriented one. I don’t know what that does for the inspection of fertilizer storage — based on explosions we’ve had in the US I’d guess very little — but it does suggest that paralysis and dysfunction are the allies (one of the tools) of Western hegemony.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 10, 2020 8:29 AM

The reason RT has swung behind COVID mania is the same as any TV station anywhere. The English-Irish-Australian programme editors are totally on board with the hoax. They’re believers. Producers are very given to group think. You won’t get fired for cut and pasting AP and Reuters.

You can follow them on Facebook where they’ll make comments like: “I was in the produkty (grocer) and the person behind me wasn’t wearing a mask. People are sooooooo selfish.”

There is a distinction between what the RT presenters say and the content that is in the packages, as pre-recorded news reports are called in TV.

There may be no difference on COVID but this is an important place to read behind the lines – to identify what is the Russian policy/politicial view.. and what is verbal filler written by the expats.

The presenters’ words are written by those English-Irish-Australian programme editors. The packages are produced by mainly native Russian reporters and are approved, word-by-word by Russian producers connected to internal state security, the heirs to the KGB’s first directorate.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 10, 2020 8:57 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And don’t forget that journalists as a group are infiltrated by intelligence agencies on all sides. It only takes a few influencers. This doesn’t mean that most journalists are taking orders from intel (a different situation applies to Russian producers working on the reports of native Russian reporters as noted above).

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

As social controls are rapidly tightening in a most public way, does that not make journalists more and more inevitably take orders from Intel?

I get the idea that CIA and allies have some means or other to shade or quash or mirror any story. Anything…

That was a prequel to this covid scene when Robin Williams was cremated the next day and no paper on the planet, at least online, carried the story. I began looking all over for days but could only find TMZ and 1 tiny other. His widow gave the eulogy and made note that he had finally “succumbed to the terrorist in his brain.” Odd turn of phrase. A politically charged “nazism”?

And nobody carried that elegy, at the time. An example of the amount of smoke and mirrors in cyberspace, several accounts of that appeared in a few major papers, A YEAR AND A HALF LATER. Retrofitted? Yes, all smoke and mirrors.

That’s almost de facto proof of murder. And journ-o-criminal global collusion. And, last but not least, criminal organization of the successive events originating at the “highest” level.

But inasmuch as that story was 99.99% nowhere to be found, anywhere on the planet at the time, is proof that, yes, most journalists are under orders by Intel, or at least there is a system in place to control them always in certain matters, usually just by some editors no doubt.

And since the collective spookocracy operates with an agenda and no measurable respect for an independent press in any way, it adds up to total control.

Like the man once said, “They don’t care what you do as long as it’s something they want you to do.”

That’s even worse! than total control. Lol

Teddy
Teddy
Aug 10, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Putin is on-board because Covid is a prepackaged set of totalitarian measures which he can roll-out across Russia.

You Putin fan-boys need to stop pretending the fascist dictator in Russia is a nice guy, he’s not.

WilliamTheGrape
WilliamTheGrape
Aug 10, 2020 11:03 AM
Reply to  Teddy

Non of them are nice. But at least he isn’t handled by wrinkled old money Corporations unlike Western puppets.
Democracy, pffff.

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 1:58 PM

ISN’T HE, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

Franz Kunz
Franz Kunz
Aug 10, 2020 7:14 PM
Reply to  Tender

How do you know? It is called information based intuition…

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 12:42 AM
Reply to  Franz Kunz

Or informed opinion. Of course you can’t prove it, but when he calls all the leaders and brokers of the G- western nations “swine” for not caring, really, about their people much, you got to give him style points and add some stars.

The man knows a molten gold calf when he sees one.

Johan
Johan
Aug 10, 2020 4:06 PM
Reply to  Teddy

“You Putin fan-boys need to stop pretending the fascist dictator in Russia is a nice guy, he’s not.”

Strong man are never ‘nice guys’ indeed. They can prevent the easy to subvert system of democracy (which is demagogy and decline) to become the means for enemies to take over, like what happened with all Western democracies so far. Since the enemy is extremely aggressive and without scruples, nice guys do not suffice..

If Putin really has ambitions as a totalitarian dictator, you could wonder why he has waited so long, real dictators do not wait so many years (about twenty), they don’t live forever, and the position, the opportunity for them to take control does not last.

Your rhetorical strategy on the one hand is designed to throw a light on those who value Putin as being utterly naive, on the other hand characterizing him as a serious dictator of type which is to be highly feared. Of the latter allegation, we will have to see about that in the future.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 6:39 PM
Reply to  Johan

@Johan: Well said. His “rhetorical strategy” as you show is to have it both ways, disingenuously, which sure is not something “nice guys” do.

He seems to suggest that be our priority, and he can’t even practice what he preaches? Man, that’s Full Frontal NATO.

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:24 AM

RT was always untrustworthy. It’s great for getting news on what’s happening in Britain but it is still just a propaganda news outlet. Like most news orgs big and independent many are controlled opposition designed to hoover up people who think a certain way and nullifying them and getting them to slowly accept so called respectable opinion

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 9:32 AM
Reply to  Koba

Can we trust RT more than outlets like the untrustworthy Guardian? Both misinform readers and try to manipulate opinion, right?

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:18 AM
Reply to  NicS

In a world of universal deciet we can’t even trust our own thoughts sometimes…..or at least be sure our thoughts ar eindeed our own thoughts. everything is propoganda. Even what I just wrote.

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 9:48 AM
Reply to  Koba

Teddy
Aug 10, 2020 9:46 AM
Awaiting for approval

Reply to  Moneycircus
Putin is on-board because Covid is a prepackaged set of totalitarian measures which he can roll-out across Russia.
You Putin fan-boys need to stop pretending the fascist dictator in Russia is a nice guy, he’s not.

WilliamTheGrape
WilliamTheGrape
Aug 10, 2020 11:08 AM
Reply to  Koba

RT. Look what the West are up to.
Western MSM. Look what China and Russia are up to.
But I don’t see Russia and China on our borders threatening war, do you?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:33 AM

“But I don’t see Russia and China on our borders threatening war, do you?” Not quite true, now we’ve moved NATO borders right up to Russia. Those pesky Russians always making trouble.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 12:54 AM

The proto-Nazis, aka Goths and Teutons, were doing that to Russia and rubbing their (now) NATO-infested borders since the very start of the Dark Ages. That is, forever (well maybe not in the pre-Brinze Age, that’s unclear. Would it be unChristian to hope that these current ones get so reproved, the way Nevsky did to them,to the degree they have to go stand in a corner of our galaxy until they get their heads straight.

They are a bigger blight that way than any conventional biblical locusts plague.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 13, 2020 2:21 PM

Flashback to 1962; missiles in Turkey, aimed at Russia. Krushchev says fine, we’ll put missiles in Cuba, aimed at the States. Much drama follows, Russia removes missiles. And 6 months later, as part of the deal that you only read about in the second level of news reporting but not in the MSM, the US missiles are removed from Turkey because they were really not needed anyway, it was not a deal, and besides that, they were ‘obsolete’. Krushchev was gracious enough to allow the interval before their quiet removal.
So who ‘won’?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  Koba

Not totally trustworthy would be a better description of RT. The BBC and Guardian, to name but two sinners, are of course totally untrustworthy.

Willem
Willem
Aug 10, 2020 7:22 AM

‘With the exception of events of 9/11 Russia Today seemed to offer a refreshing and often incisively critical insight into world affairs,’

I recall, also mentioned at OffG, that RT has an appalling state of promoting the ‘refugees are terrorists meme’ when in Europe we had Bataclan, Nice, Berlin, Manchester etc.

That, together with Covid19 suggests to me that RT is opting what is best for Russia, not necessarily what is best for people who Iive in other countries (like countries in Europe).

Making Europe unstable by creating divisions between the population (the refugee ‘crisis’): perfect for Russia

Making Europe unstable by supporting the covid scare: perfect for Russia

RT is a state owned news channel. Why should we be surprised that it reports journalism that is good for the State of Russia?

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 9:35 AM
Reply to  Willem

Does Russia make Europeans not want endless mass immigration? Do they also have the power to make us dislike rainy days? Also, how do we know posters with your opinions escaped such mental manipulation?

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 9:56 AM
Reply to  NicS

Like Farage they pretend that immigration is the most important issue, and will threaten the lives of people in the UK.

They help create racist hysteria like the far-right. Ironically only assist the far-right in the UK, which will just solidify American involvement in Europe, which is not in their interests, Russia is very mistaken in their actions.

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 9:51 AM
Reply to  Willem

They were also behind Brexit because they share the Americans desire to fragment and reduce the power of the EU, which is not in the interests of any European, including the British.

Willem
Willem
Aug 10, 2020 11:12 AM
Reply to  Tender

‘ They were also behind Brexit’
No they were not.

Continuing austerity and a lack of faith in the EU (who for instance sold out the Greek population in order to save Northern European banks) are reasons for Brexit

Soley
Soley
Aug 10, 2020 3:53 PM
Reply to  Willem

Your comment is twaddle.

The Russians were behind Brexit on RT, they loved it and wanted it. It was a mistake on their part and they will live to regret it.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:36 AM
Reply to  Soley

I don’t think they would give a fig.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:35 AM
Reply to  Willem

And in exchange for the EU we got Boris. Was that a fair swop?

Binra
Binra
Aug 11, 2020 2:06 PM

You didn’t get Boris – you got a Bio-tech security state.

Binra
Binra
Aug 11, 2020 2:04 PM
Reply to  Willem

Cameron triggered brexit in terms of calling a referendum. Who or what was behind Cameron’s compliance because I cannot believe it was his own idea.
The setting up of a ‘populist’ identity smeared with toxic associations as a foil for a globalism presented as ‘thwarted or threatened’, is a narrative framing in polarised and polarising identity that is used like a battery or power source.
The masking in virtue that is set against a vice can and does play all sides of conflict as the means to filter, suppress, distort and deny communication.
This is what the mind does, when used as a self-justifying defence for masked or private agenda.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:19 AM
Reply to  Tender

Weakening the EU is in the interests of all human beings.

Soley
Soley
Aug 10, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Only the thick ones.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  Soley

Or the ones who don’t want to live under an Imperialist technocracy. The EU are as bad as all the other Empires. To think otherwise is delusional, and to ignore what happened to those who voted for independence from Spain is the heigh of arrogance and hypocrisy.

Binra
Binra
Aug 11, 2020 2:11 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

The rule by regulatory capture is bureaucracy, but linked to technological and psychological extensions of surveillance and enforcement becomes a technocracy of systemic capture.
Narratives are used to leverage regulatory structures. Anything is used to leverage narratives – but financial inducements can either rig the game or choke those who wont play along.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 8:08 PM
Reply to  Soley

p.s. Read Paul Manning’s excellent book “nazi in exile”. Follow the money, the founding fathers of the EU were and still are knee deep in nazi money.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:37 AM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Yeh sure.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 10, 2020 1:40 PM
Reply to  Tender

That’s absolute rubbish. Russia was collapsing from all sides when Nigel Farage first made his play to take the UK out of the EU in the early 1990s. Brexit has been in the minds of certain UK actors since the day that the EEC turned into the EU and when the Euro currency was denominated seven years later.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 11, 2020 3:37 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

He should be a knight of the realm at the very least.

Dors
Dors
Aug 10, 2020 4:59 PM
Reply to  Willem

I never follow RT so I can’t comment on the issue directly.

But I can do so indirectly.

“RT is a state owned news channel. Why should we be surprised that it reports journalism that is good for the State of Russia?”

Because the Russian government policy is in many facets anti-Russian, including anti-Russian state.

It includes a persistently very liberal attitude toward the richest moving their money out of the country, and strong restrictionism on the question of state investments in domestic industries. As a result, a large proportion of Russians see their government as an insult materialised, and filled with fifth columnists.

And it has been so for at least several decades, without interruption. Which brings me to the next reason:

The Russian state has for centuries been in its essence imitative, rather than independent-minded.

Russians have shown independence of mind in matters of science and technology, at some times in arts & literature as well. … but in governance? Apart from exceptions in the first half of the twentieth century, it has been almost completely borrowing upon borrowing, with obvious lack of inner freedom to decide for yourself what do you actually want and what is the way to get it.

In that context, the recent development of truly outstanding military technology is like choosing the best in the second-rate matters after one has failed to protect the core interests, largely economic ones.

Also, I do not see how European instability is “perfect” for Russia.

For objectivity, my take is that the Middle East instability is very bad and possibly catastrophic for Israel in the long term. Also, Putin obviously does take care for Russia to avoid direct confrontations : hard to do so with serious instability in Europe.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  Dors

Putin may talk quietly, but he does carry a hypersonic stick.

smoke
smoke
Aug 10, 2020 5:50 AM

folks the SARS CoVid 19 virus is not a disease. it is a virus that infects human cells. like a bee that stings you, or splinter that lodges in your the cells that make up your skin. 

The virus surface has a protein called the S protein.. and the human cell has protein on its surface called the ACE-2 Receptor. . ..  to simplify this idea think Virus-protein and Cell -protein
when they come into contact with each other they talk to each other.. 

virus protein says to the cell protein are you there.. ?  
the cell protein responds to the virus protein yep I am here.. please go away..
the virus protein divides itself into two parts 
and sends the fighter part of its protein=> to knock out the cell protein.. 
and sends the 2nd part of its protein => to dock onto (clamp tight onto) the cell itself. 

Once part two of the virus gets docked it begins a dance of sorts and that
dance causes the clamped cell membrane to vibrate in the clamped area of the cell membrane. 
The dance disrupts the membrane, and causes the membrane to open a hole so that the virus
can enter the cell.  

Until the live living virus is actually inside of the live living human cell there is no infection.  
so infection is not a disease, its a process.  

so lets talk about stopping the infection, not developing a vaccine that can fight the virus after it has infected the human cell.  

Think mosquito.. when it bites it makes a hole in the human cell. there the hole is made by a needle inserted by the mosquito through the human skin into a human cell. But the mosquito bite is not an infection.. yet the mosquito is the same as a virus, it wants to eat the guts of of the cell it attacks. encephalitis is a virus that mosquitoes are bothered with. if they have that infection, when they bite you and make a hole in your cell, the encephalitis can enter your cell, then you are infected. 

how do we keep mosquito from transmitting sleeping sickness from themselves to you when they bite you ? We don’t, we spray the are to kill mosquitoes or invade their populations with no reproducing genetically engineered mosquitos so they can’t bite you.  

So we need to work on ways to prevent infection by the SARS CoVid 19 virus.. since that virus is one of 5 known corona viruses, and since they all infect in the same way, we will be attacking nearly all mutants and everything if we find a way to stop the infection.  

1. spray the rooms where the virus is likely to be 
2. wear a mask, gloves and wash hands and face. 
3. spray the skin clothing and mucosa so with something tat prevents the virus S protein from continuing on to be successful with its process of infection.  

since infection is a process and since there are several steps in that process. we might be able to stop the virus by blocking one of the steps in the infection processes so the process is stopped. 

As shown in this article, recent research shows that the SARS-CoV-2 virus existed long before governments would have us believe:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-virus.html

It certainly appears that the blame for the COVID-19 pandemic should not be laid at the feet of China and that the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus could well be far, far wider than we are being led to believe by “the experts” and government officials.

but now comes the bomb shell IMO.. I found a EU patent application as follows. 

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/0d/8f/b6/943ceef494db60/EP0710718A1.pdf

As shown in this article, recent research shows that the SARS-CoV-2 virus 
existed long before governments would have us believe:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-virus.html

I found a EU patent application as follows. 

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/0d/8f/b6/943ceef494db60/EP0710718A1.pdf

(this link is to EU Patent App pub 8.05.1996 Designated Contracting States DE, FR, GB, It.. priority cited is 9.10.1987 US 106282 and  30.08.1988 US 238670 Application number of earlier application in accord with Art. 76 EPC 88909944.6 the Application is Baylor college of medicine Houston and line 54 is the title and it read “Method of and apparatus for cell poration and cell fusion using radio frequency electrical pulses.  
the numbers and digits after the last “/” in the patent images link is the patent 
app number. This EU patent application serves as proof that infectivity of SARS 
CoVid 19 virus can be controlled by RF.. where or not it is intentional.

Disclosed are an apparatus and a method for the poration and fusion of cells using high-power radio frequency  electrical pulses.  

line 57 =>The power function generator can apply a continuous AC electrical field
and/or a high-power pulsed radiofrequency electrical field across the electrodes. 

The alternating electrical —field induces cell congregation by the process of 
dielectrophoresis. 
The high-power pulsed radiofrequency electrical field porates (makes pores,=just like the known infection process of corona virus how about that? ) or fuses the cells.
The method has the ability to porate or fuse biological cells with a very high efficiency.
The method c/b used to fuse or porate a variety of cells including animal cells, human cells, plant cells, protoplasts, erythrocyte ghosts, liposomes, vesicles, bacteria, yeasts. 

again line 57=>Interesting claims “the method has the unique ability: ” 
==>”to porate” <==means to make holes in the membranes of the living cell
==>”fuse cells in very small or very large numbers. <=

The patent application notes as follows:
“during the poration or fusions, a variety of chemical agents..
can be introduced into the cells” <=it means live living human cells.

among those chemical agents the method can be used to infuse into the living cells 
are: DNA, RNA, antibodies, proteins, drugs, molecular probes, hormones, growth 
factors, enzymes, organic chemicals and inorganic chemicals. 

The patent application continues the method is claimed to useful to produce new biological species. to make hybridoma cells, which produce animal or human monoclonal antibodies and to insert therapeutic genes into human cells which ca/ be transplanted back into the human body
to cure genetic diseases. this patent application says it was printed by Rank Xerox (UK) Business Serivces 2.11.6/3.4

No longer IMO is is necessary to hypothesize that emf can induce increased infectivity
of virus to human transfer. That seems proven to acceptable levels by the patent app.  
What now is the next question, can cell towers and satellite transmissions, account for 
1. the changes in virus to human infectivity?
2. the observed enhanced virus activity in many global locations at the same time?
3. the excessive impact on some people who die from the infection?
  suggest that ASA one human cell in one human body is infected, the RF can help the 
  virus to continue the infection (speed it up so to speak, so that very soon the entire
  immune system defense cannot handle the loads) Cell towers are sources of RF.. cell phones are souces of Rf.. 
4. the continued after cure slow recovery impact. ? is something else that needs to be studied. 

there are many papers on this subject through most of the literature. but this patent application says it all .. and is not something one of the search e

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  smoke

The Virus is completly harmless to 97% of the population. 100% to children and young adults. The majority need to get it in the summer so we can get rid of it.

gordon
gordon
Aug 10, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  smoke

jim
jim

he’s dead jim
he’s dead!

virus is dead matter

i love these clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=332&v=0Q9XqmxMjhU&feature=emb_title

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 10, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  smoke

There is nothing new about artificial mechanisms to get nucleic acids and proteins into cells, friend.

I was trying lots of them out in the early 1990s: electroporation, use of fusogenic liposomes were common back then, as was the use of calcium ions complexed to DNA. Bacterial cells were made somewhat leaky using chemicals like DMSO.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 11, 2020 12:45 AM
Reply to  smoke

We could do all that or we could just make sure that we have good levels of Vitamin D. There I fixed it for you.

Reg
Reg
Aug 10, 2020 3:47 AM

There is no “covid-19” except in the sick minds of the fantasists and their controllers.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 6:33 AM
Reply to  Reg

Sorry, Reg, I gave you a downmark on a technicality. There _is_ a Corona-Virus-ID-19 (“Covid-19” for short) which Chinese scientists identified, sequenced and published. Covid-19 had some interesting genes but proved to be no more dangerous than the common cold or “flu”. As for it “sweeping across the world” that’s what the common cold does every year.

But Covid-19 has nothing to do with this politically induced hysteria and politically motivate clampdown which is sweeping across the world. That is due to an imaginary “existential threat” which I call Con-19.

The imaginary Con-19 is much more virulent than the real Covid-19.

paul
paul
Aug 10, 2020 7:56 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Can I revert you to this earlier article of June 27th on Off-Guardian, “COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless”. The authors affirm the virus has not been identified. There is a crowdjustice legal appeal by a group called “The People Brexit” against the UK government’s legislation based on the fact that our government failed to reply to information regarding the virus existence , nor the Canadian government under a FoI request, to confirm they had evidence of the virus’ existence.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 9:50 AM
Reply to  paul

Paul, you are reverting to unreliable authorities: UK & Canada are part of the “5 Eyes” military-political-financial AZC global misinformation network (BBC, NBC, etc) who brought you Con-911, Con-WMD, Con-Viagra, Con-Novijoke, Con-Sarin and now, Con-19. My posts about the real virus Covid-19 always refer to reputable publications by Chinese scientists.

paul
paul
Aug 10, 2020 9:53 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

I think the article reverts to the Chinese study most ofetn quoted if memory serves.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:22 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Whats the con-viagra?

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 2:35 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Ælfræd, that was a Con pulled by the Camoron regime: that “evil Libyan dictator” Gadaffy was not only “killing his own people” but also feeding his soldiers Viagra to rape them as well.

Camoron is a banker’s son, and AZC bankers regard it as a great evil that any country should own its own bank, own its own oil, and set up its own currency backed by its own gold: no “invisibles”! On the Anglo Zio Bankers books Gadaffy was evil personified, and NATZO made sure he got what he deserved — a bayonet up the arse.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 3:32 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Ah thanks for that I wasn’t aware of that one, I didn’t pay too much attention to libya beyond the banking issues you alluded to. I will just say this that not all bankers are evil, there are a good number(mostly in their late 60s+ now who were not respnsible for various crashes etc and do do/did what they do to see investment (and yes to make a nice 1%) but without some bankers there are areas I know of in England that would still be 100% poverty stricken. We need bankers, it’s just we do not need fractional reserve lending and speculating greedy bankers pulling money out of thin air.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Aelfraed, thanks for pulling me up on that one: tarring all with the same brush. I hear ye; the more so since I had already approved your protest against misuse of the word Zionist as a blanket perjorative.

Yes, we need banks to hold our capital safe (and useful). And thanks for bringing one obvious bad practice into focus: yes, fractional reserve banking ought to have been outlawed after the great Dutch tulip Boom&Bust.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 10, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

I don’t know if you are aware of Prof.Richard Werner’s forensic proof that we don’t have a fractional reserve system but a credit creation system. Banks do not lend their assets but hire out credit they create out of nothing. According to him, lots of small banks are the answer and regulation to ensure loans are given to businesses that produce things. Unfortunately this is probably just academic now. The Central Banks are starting to lend to customers themselves and are cutting out the middlemen and with digital currency they will be in total control of everything.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 8:11 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Fractional reserve does pull credit out of nothing, but yes now it’s gone way past even creating it from whats on the books repeatedly everytime it is loaned or deposited.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 8:34 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

@Nixon Scraypes: “we don’t have a fractional reserve system but a credit creation system. Banks do not lend their assets but hire out credit they create out of nothing.”

Thanks for some more much needed expert knowledge on banking. I had not heard of Prof.Werner’s notion, though lately I have been thinking about Credit (from Latin credo, I trust) for some reason. Probably because we had Merchant of Venice in fourth form:

SHYLOCK Three thousand ducats for three months, and Antonio bound.

BASSANIO Your answer to that? 

SHYLOCK Antonio is a good man.

BASSANIO Have you heard any imputation to the contrary?

SHYLOCK Ho, no, no, no, no. My meaning in saying he is a good man is to have you understand me that he is sufficient. Yet his means are in supposition. He hath an argosy bound to Tripolis…

Antonio’s limitation was to have “his means” in small ships at the peril of wind and water, land thieves and water thieves…

Now if only Antonio had been “too big to fail” his credit (with George Brown at least) would have been unlimited. Who was it said, We create our own reality?

Shakespeare, part owner of the Globe, and in need of a loan to rebuild after a fire, with the City of London just across the water, caught the business dialect at first hand.

“Shakespeare drew Shylock out of his own Long pocket” — James Joyce, Ulysses.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 12, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Not just a notion! A forensically proven fact. There’s a paper he’s published with his proof.
In Peter Ackroyd’s biography of Shakespeare he says the bard did some money lending. Not one of his best books,the harder he trys to prove he existed, the more I doubt it!

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 12, 2020 3:26 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Re the Bard’s Long Pocket, thanks for info about the Bard as Money Lender. I read somewhere that Shakespeare also invested in a nationwide scheme to sell hosiery: “A Line not for an Age but for all Time”.

Poet, Actor, Bisexual Lover, Playwright, Theatre Owner, Land Owner, Money Lender, Nationwide Hosiery Distributor: when did that man find time to sleep? Indeed hard to believe in.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 8:17 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Yes zionist has lost it’s meaning now. Even I’m not sure what it means. I thought it meant believing in a homeland for Jewish people somwhere approx where the state of Israel is now. On that meaning I am a Zionist, but then I also believe that the majority of English folk (until the mass immigration post war that is) could well be one of the lost tribes of Israel. It’s just a hunch.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 3:46 AM
Reply to  Ælfræd

The modern archaeology is of a consensus that Britons are not that long lost Tribe, or not any more than Mormons. (Jewish Mormons!?) But heck, it’s such a cool legend, let’s keep it going. It lives on.

________

“Let’s not do it and say we did,” said Tom Sawyer to Huckleberry Finn

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 13, 2020 9:30 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

True but the main consesnsus is that Kufu built the great pyramids at Giza, but Graham Hancock has brought together evidence that has obliterated that argument. And yes it’s a cool legend 🙂 We are all G-d’s people, so no doubt we all stem from Israel.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

Excellent. On all counts.

(Especially the last, it would seem to gve us all a claim, as “non-pejorative” zionists. If the word applies universally and ubiquitously, no need for a “Z”. And we can all stop fighting then, no?)

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 13, 2020 5:14 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

A reasonable point to make John.Shalom to that 🙂

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 10, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

See my reply to the good doctor below

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 2:36 AM
Reply to  Ælfræd

No, we need Peoples Banks, such as in North Dakota where they are in the hands of the public.

We do NOT need ANY bankers and/or other such fiscal wankers.

You don’t have to be a Marxist to know Credit UNIONS outperform bankers 10 to 1. (For EVERYBODY except the bankers.) Nothing new, just true.

£4£&$4$&€4€&¥4¥+MY2¢~~~~

“I fear banking interests more than standing armies.”

~ Thomas Jefferson

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 13, 2020 9:28 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Then the public are the bankers, ergo you need bankers 🙂

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 4:50 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

No, that’s a typo, I tried to correct it to UNIONIST “financial advisors” because I was hoping to dodge the smiley face. But it had timed out. You can’t escape a predestined happy face. 😎

(On the other hand, if we are all bankers and all zionists does that make us, eventually, all equal Rothschild heirs? Things are looking up.)

David
David
Aug 10, 2020 9:07 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

No, they didn’t identify it. To do that they would have had to isolate and purify a sample taken from a sick patient and they haven’t. So, I’d take back that downmark. I refer you to another recent off-G article:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/09/scientists-have-utterly-failed-to-prove-that-the-coronavirus-fulfills-kochs-postulates/

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 9:55 AM
Reply to  David

But the Wuhan scientists certainly did. They sought, found, analysed, isolated, identified, and stored many covid-like pathogens at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It’s all in the scientific journals.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711?fbclid=IwAR13dLP-B4mOYlfWlwkl9Ciys5jaHmUeenjgQjjkbp0cwPVWuSOBrHYk9SA

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 10:16 AM
Reply to  David

David, the Chinese article used: “a sample of bronchoalveolar lavage fluid from the patient”. First step. Preliminary identification as a member of the wellknown Corona family, the second most frequent flu viruses. Another Chinese paper, on clinical aspects of Covid-19, reports a death rate lower than the average death rate for annual flu in the U$A.

We need is more such scientific papers — first step, second step, third step etc; not this deluge of AZC misinformation in the MSM. Nor do we need loosely phrased counter claims in OffG that there is no such virus as Covid-19.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3

“Science advances slowly, slowly / Creeping on from point to point”.

IANA
IANA
Aug 10, 2020 11:11 AM
Reply to  David

I was having this conversation the other day and was sent the following link. It appears to be a complete genome sequence from the Wuhan lab. I’m not qualified to interpret this but would appreciate it someone who is could maybe valid this? TY
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 10, 2020 1:45 PM
Reply to  David

Failing to prove something does not mean it does not happen in nature.

You can argue until the cows come home about Koch’s postulates, but not having proven scientifically that SARS-CoV2 satisfies such postulates does not mean that SARS-CoV2 does not exist, nor does it prove that SARS-CoV2 does not cause certain illnesses in certain people.

Johan
Johan
Aug 10, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Haha, ‘con-19’.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 2:07 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

But beyond its relative harmlessness, way south at least of the Bubonic 2.0 tale we’re ever being spoon-fed, he has a point about the sketchy dubiety of its viral existenz. From what I read, it mutates so often, the critter is actually hard enough to pin down as to its real current status, which is just as well, since maybe we can just blow our own noses now and get on with it*.

And let it just be The Magic Virus, useful mostly to scare small children when they won’t go to sleep.

Wait, that’s what they’re using it for now, globally, I had to stop a moment and think.

(*Bonus: we’d have to take off our masks to do that.)

I haven’t followed enough of the real biochemistry, and after all Dr. Ioannides (among many, i.e. credible) refers to it as a real substance, so I assume you must be right.

The hanging question, which I believe many here have put forth, and one similar to WMDs hoaxery: yes, such things exist, but is covid always or even that often present in cadavers, or in covidpsychotic countries, even ever, or is it like Condoleeza and Yellowcake, just used regardless as the Usual Suspect, as “need” arises.

We went round and round with the NeoCons, Scooter Libby, Robert Novak, Rove, etc. about all that StierScheiße, when they were just using it as a one-size-fits-all pretext-for-everything. Surely there are WMDs lurking somewhere, sonehow, some ways, but that was never the point.

Same with this Trojan Horse du jour.

In that sense, Covid19 may exist, but that factoid is virtually irrelevant, in the face of our psy-villain Covid1984.

I believed that since early March. Actually, before, from the very first buzz, or buzzlet.

So in that sense, he is right in spirit about the Bogeyman Bug. It’s just one more of many wannabe terrorists.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 13, 2020 2:26 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

And, as many have weighed in here, both A- and B-TL, the jury is long out about the quantum, if any, called Covid19, on many counts.

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 9:50 AM
Reply to  Reg

Reg, you’ll need to convince the Wuhan scientists of your claim. They had collected coronaviruses back in 2012, using swabs on the anuses of Chinese horseshoe bats. They published various papers in Nature describing their work at Wuhan. Here’s one: “Isolation and characterization of a bat SARS-like coronavirus that uses the ACE2 receptor”. They only sought pathogens that would transmit directly to humans (ACE2). Their lab stored thousands of similar viruses, for which it was made the subject of a proud CCP propaganda film.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711?fbclid=IwAR13dLP-B4mOYlfWlwkl9Ciys5jaHmUeenjgQjjkbp0cwPVWuSOBrHYk9SA

Tender
Tender
Aug 10, 2020 10:04 AM
Reply to  Reg

I had some form of flu in late feb which fits the description of Covid, I never get flu normally. So I think there may be something out there, but as you say the rest is lies.

Antonym
Antonym
Aug 10, 2020 3:25 AM

Goss: Alexandr Lukashenko – a president with scruples
Me: Oh yah? Lukashenko has been in power for 26 years and is seeking a sixth term. He blocked two out of three opposition candidates.

Goss: He was against covid-19 lockdown, so therefore has scruples.

Me: ????

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:25 AM
Reply to  Antonym

You’re a Zionist antonym. A horrid piece of so called humanity

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Koba

Nothing wrong with being a zionist. Like a lion, in zion. lion zion lion zion lion zion.

gordon
gordon
Aug 10, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

they dosed bob up
got him in hospital and cancer dosed him up some more
then treated the symptoms and cancer dosed him up some more

when the pirate nation puppets or assets go off script they get snuffed out.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 10, 2020 11:39 PM
Reply to  gordon

Your like a Irvine Welsh character in his novels.

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  Antonym

He certainly dislikes democracy. But that doesn’t mean he’s unscrupulous. As for no lockdown, Belarus hasn’t wrecked its economy, like Sweden (no deaths now). The jury is still out on the value of lockdown. The UK with its very tough lockdown has performed worse than just about any other country, and also damaged its economy. Then there are the huge social and health costs of lockdown, still unknown, but not afflicting Belarus. So maybe Lushenko is indeed the wise guy…

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:26 AM
Reply to  NicS

Democracy is overrated and always leads to tyranny.

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Aug 10, 2020 8:31 PM
Reply to  Antonym

He suis Lukashenko???

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Aug 10, 2020 8:33 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Je déteste mon clavier.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Aug 10, 2020 3:13 AM

While I certainly agree with Putin’s brilliant handling countering the western Syrian aggression, his handling of the Covid-1984 hoax has convinced me, much to my disappointment, that he is part of the global Cabal – playing the white hat (if not a white helmet), so to speak. While RT constantly refers to the wonderful “Warp Speed” advances of their cv vaccine program, there is no revelation if it is also a Bill Gates style RNA/DNA injection turning humans into genetically modified organisms like American GMO soybeans.

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 5:28 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Personally i don’t understand why PEOPLE insist on being lead or want to follow, there are no good heads of state, they’re all power hungry psychos. The desire for power is as undserving as the lemmings that give away their freedoms.

Willem
Willem
Aug 10, 2020 7:32 AM
Reply to  Objective

Because communism did work for millions of people, as Michael Parenti explains here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/9brzl2/parenti_communism_did_work_for_millions_of_people/

The idea is: you give leaders your consent to govern you, but the moment they misuse their power for profits that are not in the interest of the people, they shall be replaced.

There is nothing wrong with leadership. What is wrong is bad decisions made by leadership.

What you are suggesting is a state without leadership. But how can you make decisions without leadership. Who is, for instance, going to clean the streets when it is not decided that the streets should be cleaned?

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 7:50 AM
Reply to  Willem

Thank you for the perfect example why communism is so evil & doesn’t work!

Perhaps some of us don’t give consent to be governed, what does that make us ? Captive Slaves.

Some of us don’t need leading like a curr!

Streets? Who cares. You may enjoy the security of being certified livestock i value freedom more.

Willem
Willem
Aug 10, 2020 8:05 AM
Reply to  Objective

Aug 10, 2020 8:05 AM
Awaiting for approval

‘ Thank you for the perfect example why communism is so evil & doesn’t work!’

Did you actually see what Parenti had to say about the topic?

‘ Streets? Who cares.‘

Well, I care and you will to if nobody cleans your street since the decision was not made that they should be cleaned.

Interesting that you value ‘freedom’ so much. What does freedom mean to you? – The right to not clean your street?

Oh and also your statement that I may enjoy the security of being certified livestock more than freedom is a non-sequitur. Who ever said I was talking about either one of those things?

Anyway, it’s early hours. Say hi to 1 out of 7 billion and Sunset et al, you know the guys and girls who are working from the same script as you do: suggesting here that our situation is hopeless.

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 10:37 AM
Reply to  Willem

Yes it seems mental illness comes with communism, whats with the OCD & street cleaning? I jest, its all meant in fun.

Heres the point i dont have a street just a dirt road it would be pointless sweeping it, i dont have a car so i don’t need streets.

Oh dear the silly your a Russian bot dismissal bollocks. And i thought it was going to be a intelligent conversation, how come communists cant have rational debates?

I’m fine with you being a communist & giving up your rights i’m just not fine you taking my rights away from me to become a communist. Thats the dilema my libertarian attitude doesnt tkae anything from you, we cant say the same for your doctrine can we.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:30 AM
Reply to  Objective

Some people will never get libertarianism because as much as they devry evil leaders they onyl decry them because they want to be them. They support the system because they believe it is they who should be running it and their real problem wirth the system is that it is not they who are.

Willem
Willem
Aug 10, 2020 8:11 AM
Reply to  Objective

There is an answer waiting for you in the waiting for approval dock.

Jan J
Jan J
Aug 10, 2020 8:31 AM
Reply to  Objective

Anarchy is a cop-out, it will never work. We need to build societal models that are actually democratic (not faux-democracy), communism is actually a great contender as long as it stays true to the ideal, the problem we have and it’s a huge one is the “iron law of oligarchy” (Michels) Without fail, this is what destroys more idealistic approaches to organizing societies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

Everything is oligarchy. The US empire, Russia, China, and literally every country in the world is run by some form of oligarchy masquerading as this or that.

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 10:44 AM
Reply to  Jan J

I’m happy for you to have your communism are you going to let me have my freedom not to be part of it?

I don’t go to Wikipedia to explain to me the principles of life.

Your final point is spot on, but you dont need to live in anarchy i’m just asserting my inalienable right to freedom of choice, i’ll opt out of your centralized government & pay no taxes or be subject to your laws & we will all be happy.

Yeah it doesn’t work that way does it! Mob rule takes away my rights, so that means i’m a slave, convicted to your values & principles & dont get a choice hmm, this communism lark is sounding like prison, the unwilling held hostage to mob rule.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 3:36 PM
Reply to  Jan J

Anarchy = without rules NOT without rules. It’s the natural state of humanity, everything else leads to a devaluation of human conciousness and the earth.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

without rulers even not without rules.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 10, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  Jan J

Brehon law only way.

NicS
NicS
Aug 10, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Willem

I don’t think the 120m victims of 20th century communism would agree with your love of communist control. Communism means constant fear and death and Gulag and the killing fields to most of us. If you fear swastikas more than the hammer and sickle, you are naive or brainwashed. Try this logic: givernment is the problem, not the solution. Politicians always seek power and profit, so must be controlled. There are only 2 kinds of government: that controlled by people (democracy, eg western nations)’ or that which controls the people (autocracy, eg communist nations). Only in democracy do people have power to choose, influence and remove leaders who fail or prove fraudulent. Only in democracy can leaders’ ambitions and agendas be shaped by ordinary voters. Only in democracy do politicians answer to the people. Of course, actual democracies are currently functioning badly, but they are still the only places where citizens have some control over who governs with what agenda. Do you really prefer to be an obedient, powerless pleb whose labour only serves the communist dictators you fear?

andy
andy
Aug 10, 2020 12:40 PM
Reply to  NicS

Wow, you made sharing resources sound really bad.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  Willem

Guy near me is out every day litter picking. I pick up litter outside my house that people dump (always mcdonalds litter). People need to take responsibility for their own part of the world – not ask the council to do everything who then charge them an admin fee for doing it plus the illegal bribes etc of course.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 10, 2020 11:27 AM
Reply to  Objective

^^^this^^^

Johan
Johan
Aug 10, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Objective

Only primitive people seek leaders, and in times of great trouble and dependence, leaders are sought and required, there have been so far, historically speaking, no situations where these two were absent. In a more ideal and advanced situation than the aforementioned, one would not speak in terms of ‘government’, and ‘leaders ‘(which implied being ruled and being lead), the state would be seen in terms of facilitative and serving.

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:28 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

So his trips to be Benno nuttyjoos best mate didn’t convince you earlier? He’s good at pointing out Westen hypocrisy THATS IT! Nothing more nothing less. Check out his “when did you become a Christian?” Answer froma Russians tv show. He is no christian he just says it because many Russians are. He flapped like a dying bird looking to get out of actually saying with a straight face “I believe the bible”
Mans a charlatan like the rest

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 10, 2020 9:34 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

I’ve come to the exact same conclusion. Putin is the ‘good cop’ in a globalist game of good cop / bad cop.

kaya3
kaya3
Aug 10, 2020 1:29 AM

You can amend your post, with Trump taking the US out of WHO funding, Gates is now the number one funder/ceo of the WHO.

gordon
gordon
Aug 10, 2020 12:43 AM

nice talk
all of it
for those who seek
a truth behind the trillion dollar lie

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 10, 2020 4:50 AM
Reply to  gordon

Breaks your heart to think what “all power corrupts” really means…
Here we see that there are no limits to human wickedness, but I guess we could also have learned that from history hundreds of years ago…
Playing God has again become a popular pastime in high places, but it always ends in tears…

SteveK9
SteveK9
Aug 10, 2020 12:38 AM

79% voter participation and exit polls have Lukashenko at 79%. So I’d say he is not going anywhere. So many people wanted to vote, they closed some polls without everyone voting. Read that 3000 people were at the Belarus embassy in Moscow.

The first time I’ve been disappointed in Putin was when he allowed Sobyanin to lock down Moscow. He seems to have wised up rather quickly as Russia has ended most restrictions. Russia still has a death rate of ~ 100/million, about the same as Germany. It will probably go higher, but nothing like UK, Spain, Italy, who are ~ 500-600 / million.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 10, 2020 4:27 AM
Reply to  SteveK9

Japan, 9 out of a million, no lockdown.

China, 3.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 10, 2020 1:48 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

John

China went into lockdown so quickly that the relevant statistic would be restricted solely to Hubei province, not the country as a whole.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 11, 2020 2:45 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Well I’m just regurgitating what I saw in a recent list 3 days ago, so I’m assuming it’s the available per capita for the whole country, if sincere (and how nany actually are?).

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Aug 10, 2020 6:40 AM
Reply to  SteveK9

Steve, “death rate”. Ought not that to read “officially designated death” rate?.

Robyn
Robyn
Aug 10, 2020 12:17 AM

I listened every day to 3 or 4 (sometimes more) Sputnik political podcasts (yes, I’m a politics junkie). I stopped listening when every broadcast began with a large segment on corona disaster figures and measures etc. These podcasts used to have broad coverage of US and world politics and social issues but I stopped listening because the corona nonsense took up so much of their time. Journalists and commentators who formerly examined important topics in detail never, not once that I heard, even questioned the official line on this global hoax.Only one guest put a different line and he was never heard of again. SO disappointing.

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:31 AM
Reply to  Robyn

We’re you actually listening the silver fox forked tongued Galloway? He’s a massive charlatan. Anyone. Who. Talks. In. That. Weird. Stop. Start. Way. Of . A . Speaking. Like George is a massive gobshite carefully choosing his words. He doesn’t believe in 9/11 being a inside job. Pretty much everything the establishment calls a conspiracy he repeats it

Robyn
Robyn
Aug 10, 2020 9:01 AM
Reply to  Koba

No, not Galloway, there were good podcasts on Sputnik. I did watch some of Galloway’s MOATS but his views are very narrow. I dropped him altogether when he abused callers who wanted to float the idea that corona is not the New Black Death.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Aug 10, 2020 12:01 AM

Great article ! I also found RT to be a great disappointment . But then the globalization project has a motley crew of strange bedfellows doing all sorts of disgusting things to each other under the cover of the covid panic and neo-liberal politics where capitalists have made common cause with most of the name brand socialists. .

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:32 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Name brand socialists? I like it. Many of my so called comrades are truly atrocious during this whole scam

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 10, 2020 9:43 AM
Reply to  Koba

Yup. I call ’em the Lockdown Left.

Toppy
Toppy
Aug 9, 2020 11:12 PM

History is accelerating because we are in the midst of a historical ‘calamity’, the greatest Imperial collapse, measured in wealth & power, in the history of civilization.

American hegemony as we have known it for nearly 100 years is coming to an end, the dollar is overprinted, overvalued and the ‘American way’ is rightly seen as a failed project. So at a time when the US elites feel at their strongest, at their most nationalistic, at their most xenophobic, when they feel invincible and when they are extending their interference around the world with new ruthless abandon, ironically it is a time when they are at their most vulnerable, most weak and most overstretched.
Like the British before them, and their delusion of an Empire on which the sun would never set, Washington’s vanity prevents them from seeing the impending decline overseas as well as at home, they see themselves as the exceptional rulers of the planet who earned their right to rule from god himself and in that vein believe the dollar is an eternal flame, that will always give life and never exhaust.
They are proud that they have exported their (flawed) political and economic system of Corporate capitalism all over the world, but where the Europeans have controlled it’s contradictions and excesses, the Americans themselves have remained dogmatic, purist and ruthlessly neoliberal, breeding inequality, unprecedented poverty and desperation, they are tied to a suicidal economic dogma which has taken them to the edge of a brooding angry revolution.
To keep their flawed monopoly capitalism model functioning the US always needed illusions. From the ‘American dream’ used to sedate its exploited population, despite terrible social mobility, to the ‘moon landings’ an operation that acted to hide its lack of scientific investment, military failings, and which successfully fabricated technical achievements to scare the increasingly agile Soviets off. America has always been the Empire of delusions and illusions.

In its final days we are seeing a stupendous display of the Dream Factory’s art, with the Global warming scam, Where the USA has exempt themselves from all environmental costs, and where their foot-solders Black-rock threaten a list of non-American, notably Germany and French companies, for failing to burden themselves with enough ‘green’ policies, to hamper their competitiveness against US ‘Eco-burden-free’ rivals.
And we see Covid shut down medium to small companies in the US and overseas, whilst the oligarchs of Amazon continues trading, and whilst the richest US Corporations in history are handed large percentages of America’s GDP in loans and gifts, equipping them to increase their monopoly positions and expand into wrecked markets.
We are not seeming the birth of a new normal we are seeing the continuation of the old normal and the expansion of US corporate monopoly further into its vassal states. Terrorism as a form of control and corporate expansion had its limits, the new instrument, the fear of a virus, will forward the aims of US tech, US Pharma, US retail.
We should understand their methods. The war on terror, the war on CO2, the war on the EU (Brexit) and the war on Covid are all created using the same tools. The CIA, tech and social media.

Our biggest mistake, was letting the US get away with the moon landings deceit. Yes we went along because we were afraid of the Soviets at the time but since then there has been no excuse for keeping it quiet. It was essential it was exposed in the window of opportunity between 1989 and 2001, had it been exposed then 9/11, which heralded in the phony ‘war on terror’ would probably never have happened and the global warming scam and Covid either.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 10, 2020 12:01 AM
Reply to  Toppy

Austerity deaths in Europe are not something I’d class as controlled capitalism.

Fox
Fox
Aug 10, 2020 9:26 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

What are you talking about?

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 10, 2020 11:36 AM
Reply to  Fox

130,000 premature UK deaths caused by Tory austerity. 111,000 deaths/suicides caused by DWP policies. Greece brought to its knees via EU Eurozone punishments – homelessness, a spike in suicides.

Murderous austerity is built into Maastricht Treaty rules. Subsequently thousands killed themselves in Ireland because of poverty. This is ‘controlled capitalism’.

https://www.thejournal.ie/suicide-austerity-troubles-ireland-tim-pat-coogan-3124487-Dec2016/?amp=1

Jink
Jink
Aug 10, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Reply to relevant comments, that has nothing to do with my comment.

PS
Greece indebted itself.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 10, 2020 11:37 PM
Reply to  Jink

Greece indebted itself and the EU took the money off the poor – not the rich. As always.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 10, 2020 9:57 AM
Reply to  Toppy

Actually, what we’re in the midst of is a planned ‘demolition’ of the US its own élites in favor of a globalist New World Order. Do a little research on Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. This fake plague is the roll-out party for a new, global, technocratic fascism.

Jink
Jink
Aug 10, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

BS, it is a stupid notion put out by the CIA.

Cal
Cal
Aug 9, 2020 10:47 PM

“It disturbed me that Russia Today (RT), a favoured TV channel, had changed course…. By all measures it looked like Russia had bucked the trend and everything was under control. Suddenly all that changed. News readers, regular anchors and reporters were pushing a totally different message. In essence the coronavirus rhetoric had gone east.”

This is revisionist history, pure & simple. Russia was one of the first countries to impose draconian measures; it preceded the US, UK & most other countries. 

In January Russia began tightening control of its border, quarantining foreigners & building new infection hospitals. 

By March 13th it had closed its border with China, restricted flights & rolled out measures for people entering from South Korea, Italy & Iran. 

By March 16th Moscow had banned all street events, restricted indoor gatherings to 50 people, closed schools, quarantined all arrivals from Europe & North America for 14 days, closed entry for foreign nationals, told the elderly to stay home & banned bus drivers from selling tickets to passengers on board. 

On March 18th the govt advised everyone over 60 to self-isolate & closed Lenin’s tomb.

By March 24th the Russian govt had ordered the nationwide closure of night clubs, cinemas & kids play centers & implemented social distancing policies for public areas. Chechen president & Kremlin ally Ramzan Kadyrov suggested executing citizens who disobeyed the quarantine.

On March 26th the Russian govt suspended all flights to foreign countries. St. Petersburg prohibited people from visiting churches, mosques, parks, gardens, public squares, clubs & other entertainment venues, and banned the distribution of newspapers “from hand to hand.”

On March 29th Moscow banned citizens of all ages from leaving their homes without a special pass, managed by camera recognition/mobile phone tracking.

On March 31st it was announced that Russians may be fined up to $3,800 for breaking the quarantine. 

By April disturbing videos began emerging: Russian cops arresting citizens for walking dogs through parks that had been ordered closed; a screaming child in Krasnodar forced into an isolation box by medical personnel wearing hazmat suits & gas masks; Russian police in Sochi filmed driving around telling citizens: “Please don’t go outside, it’s dangerous.”

By April 15th Murmansk began forcing people who had been diagnosed with Corona to wear electronic bracelets to make sure they didn’t leave their homes.

And Russia Today’s coverage was hysterical from the get-go. On Feb. 4th it claimed that COVID deaths were “soar[ing] worldwide” when less than 500 people had reportedly died. On March 27th it tweeted: “URGENT: UK’s coronavirus deaths up almost ONE THIRD in one day, new figures show.” It’s coverage has remained hysterical throughout the “pandemic” – Goss’s piece is in part an attempt to cover up the truth & spin a false narrative: if anything, the “East” led the “West.”

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 9, 2020 11:55 PM
Reply to  Cal

I think you have missed the point, Cal, though you make some interesting remarks. The point implied is that Russia must have taken the World Bank bribe that Lukashenko refused, though I have no actual proof of this other than the figures.

Either the “Draconian measures” you talk of failed in Russia, or an offer was made that was too good to miss.

It’s a bit early to be talking about revisionist history but I remember RT being almost boastful in the early days for its impressive record. Then a few cases appeared in Moscow on 19 March (52). Belarus reported 5 cases the next day. The difference is Belarus has reported less than 600 deaths to date, whereas Russia has reported nearly 15,000 (source: Johns Hopkins).

Do you watch RT?

Cal
Cal
Aug 10, 2020 12:14 AM
Reply to  John Goss

I haven’t seen any evidence of a “bribe” or an “offer” – I only know about the policies the Russian govt implemented and the commentary of its news outlet; as I documented, RT never “changed course” & it did not follow the ‘West.’ RT was publishing fear-mongering Corona reports as early as February 4th, and has continued to do so.

I follow RT’s website & its Twitter account. 

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 10, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  Cal

It was Lukashenko who talked about the World Bank offer as I wrote. Are we watching the same RT? I am in the UK.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Aug 10, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  John Goss

Maybe the Russian admin made another deal which didn’t involve sums of money from the world bank?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Aug 10, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  Cal

I agree with you Mr Putin is far more adept putting what was to become a “good crisis” to good political use . But US elites and their English lap dogs have now surpassed Mr Putin in their duplicitous stupidity by invoking draconian measures almost daily . Are Russians legally required to wear face nappies in public as they are in the west? Stringing it out until the fall flu season aka “the next wave” arrives with fraudulent stats, seems a little dicey at the moment.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 10, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  Cal

COVID attitude is only another evidence that despite confrontational rhetoric Putin collaborates with western globalists and eastern globalists from Chins in order to suppress most people’s anger toward Russian oligarchy that thrived under last eight years of Putin while population suffered supposedly under guise of western sanctions while US-Russia trade doubled. Divorce between anti Russia rhetoric and reality of Russian elites is stunning and in large part explaining lack of support for their words by their deeds.

Since Putin was declared pariah in the west in 2014 Putin acted not from position of moral superiority and anti imperialism targeting west but from position of particular political and financial interests of Russian elite overarching seeking new deal with the west.

His actions in Ukraine ( marginal containment but short of easy early eradication of US, German and Canadian supported Ukraine-Nazis who burned Russian consulates, terrorized Millions of Russian ethnic Russians in Ukraine, chased out Russian own businesses, banned Russian language that is native tongue to 40% of Ukrainians while Russia was for years supplying nat gas to Ukraine unpaid ) and Syria (primarily going after Chechen run units of ISIS and al-Qaeda ) speak much louder then words.

COVID is just another political appeasement gesture of Putin.

Cal
Cal
Aug 10, 2020 1:10 AM
Reply to  Kalen

I largely agree with your analysis. The “New Cold War” narrative isn’t supported by the numbers; as you mention, US-Russian trade – and NATO-Russian trade in general – has increased, and a UN study found that the top 3 direct foreign investors in Russia are the US, Germany & the UK. I give Putin much credit for publicly acknowledging this relationship; he’s always made a point of referring to the US as a Russian “partner” (a remark that is often misinterpreted as sarcasm). Much is made of “sanctions,” but their affect on Russia is minimal (perhaps as intended), and there is no indication that the Russian ruling class is suffering under them. 

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 10, 2020 10:18 AM
Reply to  Kalen

I used to be Putin’s biggest fan. But sadly, I now believe you’re right. 🙁

Toppy
Toppy
Aug 9, 2020 10:42 PM

It should come as no surprise to anyone who is half awake, that the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind, from the fed to US elites, is accompanied in the media but a hysterical outcry against the ‘woke’ left.

That’s right, the left and SJW are the real problem in our world today, along with the ‘virtue signalers’ who are pointing out that the population shouldn’t be allowed to starve to death or burdened with trillions in debt for Corporate handouts.

It is so strange how people so freely act as tools of the elites, in-fact they enjoy the hating on the left so much, that they don’t really care that they are the ones being screwed.

Alessandro
Alessandro
Aug 10, 2020 12:50 AM
Reply to  Toppy

This item by Toppy got me thinking about meanings. It is not meant to be contradictory or argumentative to Toppy’s comments.

So many comments here in Off-G about Left and Right but does everyone understand what that means? When someone writes Left or Right is there a shared understanding of what that means? Obviously the answers are NO. I get a good laugh whenever some one accuses me of being either Left or Right and I do get both dependent on the subject. I then ask them to describe a person of the Left or Right and they become speechless or unidimensional. Ask a Right hating individual what a “Rightie” is and the answer is typically toxic at a single level on a single topic. This is mind-numbingly stupid. Perhaps some writer at Off-G could pen an article on this or run a survey.

This is not an isolated issue. Nowadays people do not seem to think beyond one level about what they are saying. I often ask people what they mean about one word they have used, for example the word “truth”. When probed beyond the superficial it becomes obvious that many have confused ideas of the meaning of truth. Has it always been so or is this a consequence of the frequency of social media.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 10, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  Alessandro

The Left is against imperialism, and supports the worker and socialism. The Right are all for imperialism, empire, and capitalism. The Left finds morality in empathy. The Right finds morality in gods. How’s that?

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:39 AM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Not bad

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:38 AM
Reply to  Alessandro

I’m left wing I’ll describe a right winger for you. Easily led, easily scared by headlines, often times racist, very forgetful, jingoistic with no need to be, people who think of I just shut up and not said anything the country would be amazing, they aren’t to fond of helping others despite the obvious leg ups heh got in life. And often times utter psychos with manners

joost
joost
Aug 10, 2020 8:56 AM
Reply to  Alessandro

There is a sheer infinite number of issues and topics to form an opinion on. If one truly shapes his or her opinion in a fair and unbiased way, one would acquire a multi-spectral political view.

Imagine a line spanning from the far left to the far right. Then evaluate each and every political opinion known to mankind and peg it on that line in a position that reflects its left/rightness. You now have a huge multi-dimensional set of opinions reduced to just one dimension.
Cut the the extreme ends off and trash them. Cut the remainder in the middle and dump each end in boxes labeled ‘left’ and ‘right’. Now you have less than one dimension to choose from, a binary digit, one/zero, left/right or democrat/republican. Then take the box of your choice home with you and toss the other in the nearest dumpster.

He who fully identifies with either the left or the right, has no opinion of his own.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 10, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  joost

“He who fully identifies with either the left or the right, has no opinion of his own.”

You’re speaking from ignorance. The Democrats and Republicans are both right wing organizations. They’re both imperialists, they’re both in support of empire, they’re both capitalists. There is no left wing in the U.S. regime. The regime’s main purpose for quite a while has been to eradicate the left, not just here in the U.S., but everywhere around the world. A good example of this is Operation Gladio, where after WW2, right wing “sleeper cells” were left in Europe to undermine any possible left wing groups who could gain popularity. The FBI itself was tasked with undermining and eradicating any left wing groups in the U.S. from gaining power.
The U.S. regime loves people like you to remain ignorant about the left wing, and throw up their propaganda about the left wing being the war-mongering imperialists of the Democratic Party. It’s worked on you pretty well.

joost
joost
Aug 10, 2020 1:11 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

You missed the point.
We should abandon any dichotomy thinking altogether is what I am saying, whether it is the Left/Right or the Democrat/Republican or any other dichotomy. It is all Kabuki theater, or Kayfabe if you prefer wrestling. 
Maybe this conveys it better then I do:
Left or Right? A False Dichotomy

Ignorant people who align themselves with one side of the coin tend to adopt the opinions attributed to that side. That is exactly why “the war-mongering imperialists” or neoconservative warmongers ,as I prefer to call them, jumped ship from the Republicans under Bush to the Democrats under Clinton. Our billionair sociopath rulers do not think in terms of dichotomies, they nurture them to divide the sheeple. Our rulers think in ideologies and the money that buys them.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 10, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  joost

I think you missed the point, joost. The left is a describable label for a human’s political convictions. The left would say that you’re speaking about left wing ideologies when you say “our billionaire sociopath rulers”. The left takes the political viewpoint against those “rulers”, calling them created in their upbringing to think themselves the higher class–the exceptionals, the club we’re not a member of. They aren’t dividing us, our ideologies are dividing us. The right wing has ruled the world for centuries with it’s traditional ideologies of conquest, colonialism, and imperialism. The left wing challenges this old world order. The left wing are insurrectionists to the right wingers, trying to take power from the wealthy and give it to the worker. The old world order will have none of that. The new world order is just another right wing ideology not much different than the old world order.
It’s right wingers who cry about the left dividing people. Right wingers do that themselves. Dividing people into worthy and unworthy.
It’s theater for you by design. The right wing war-mongering imperialists divide themselves into two parties. Then they call one party “the left”, the other party “the right”. Then you end up watching right wingers fighting with right wingers and get confused, I suppose.

So yeah, the left and right divide is real and ideological. And a person can be a right winger even if they don’t think they are. You can talk to a person and find out their ideology.

Koba
Koba
Aug 10, 2020 7:36 AM
Reply to  Toppy

Many of us of the left don’t consider them left wing we consider them to be radial centrists or radical liberals. Their is a unmentioned war being waged amongst the various branches socialists and communists about trannys gay rights etc

My side has taken a gay rights is sorted now and trannys aren’t an issue for 99% of the country. thecommunists.org

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 10, 2020 1:10 PM
Reply to  Koba

I believe that all self-identity issues–from sexual to cultural–are simply put under the umbrella of the “worker”. Of course, something like the recognition of gay rights is not a left-right issue. It’s a self-identity issue. There are gay right wingers and gay left wingers. Gay capitalists and gay socialists.

Arby
Arby
Aug 9, 2020 10:34 PM

“By that time the virus had spread through the UK” is where I stopped reading.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Aug 10, 2020 12:13 AM
Reply to  Arby

Covid is a viral flu and did mildly infect many in England as flu does every year . Nothing inflammatory in his statement?

Arby
Arby
Aug 10, 2020 3:18 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

I don’t buy the concept of ‘virus’. And there was no ‘pandemic’. Official numbers for covid 19 deaths bear that out. And bear in mind that the corrupt WHO changed the definition of pandemic in 2009 to exclude ‘deaths’. Ignore that if you wish to.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 10, 2020 4:35 AM
Reply to  Arby

There is real cause to believe, with any thorough analysis of stats, that the Mystical Virus is phantasmal, a fiction of a global banker-moderated and ruthless propagandemic. A pandemic of puffery.

More than one reading of mere data bears that out.

Absolutely.

Certainly there is flu illness abroad, but it’s being cross-dressed into Covid1984.

There is just so much to support the claim that it’s a mind job.

Arby
Arby
Aug 10, 2020 12:37 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Acknowledged.

Robyn
Robyn
Aug 10, 2020 12:20 AM
Reply to  Arby

The virus probably had spread, it just wasn’t making people sick or causing an increase in all cause mortality.

Objective
Objective
Aug 9, 2020 10:33 PM

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Don’t know it this has been posted before https://saveourrights.uk/

And if you’re a Scott this is a must https://freetodisagree.scot/

STOP THE FREEDOM HATERS, ITS A HATE CRIME!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 9, 2020 10:24 PM

SUNDAY SEQUENZA COVIDIANA

“NOBODY’S WRONG…

IF EVERYBODY’S RIGHT.”

Apologies to Steven Stills and Buffalo Springfield and their iconic 1967 protest song, “For What it’s Worth” ~

“Nobody’s right
If everybody’s wrong.”

(Or just perhaps his apology is now due to me?)

It struck me that, in the expanding dialectic of modern cultures colliding, and cabals colluding, every which way, the formulae have so fragmented that it’s hard to assign blame to any one individual, even those who are troopers of a “bad act”. [M. Scott Peck wrote something just like that in “People of the Lie”: that military evils in the US warmaking in Vietnam had come about through a “fragmentation of conscience” aka “just following orders” and then DoD rejected that contracted assessment of his.]

That struck me when I mingled with East LA gang members. They were actually some of the stauncher types whom I knew, with a constant kegger on tap of humanity and warmth, several were among the best friends I had. And, whatever their bad jacket, they were caught in a same web of footsoldiers pitted against one another. It was some of the Churchy Latinos you really had to watch more vigilantly. They were more likely the traitorous ones, often enough….They were on the make, and the take, budding politicians, whereas the gang bangers were mostly penniless and floundering.

Samuel Beckett, the modernist and disabused author of “Waiting for Godot” said, “The only sin [in our day] is being born.”

Graham Greene wrote along those crooked lines in the late 1950s during his Cuban adventures of “Our Man in Havana” and his dubious MI6 agent Wormold:

“You should dream more, Wormold. Reality in this century is not something to be faced.”

Pondering those various takes, I arrived at the perspective that ALL people now are candidates for compassion, and conflicting interests are in such an atomized state that: “Nobody’s wrong, if everybody’s right.”

If that be true, some Old Boy has a big problem…. The ancient accuser. If our psycjes have been atomized, so has a whole lot of blame. By no means do I suggest that absolves anyone of personal responsibility, just that it’s spread so widely.

Of course, not everyone IS right, not by a long shot.

But given the quandaries presented to us, it would not surprise me if more and more, given less and less, and such an endless supply of contagious nonsense, are trying to make as much sense as best as such poor things can make. And I present myself as one candidate. Multiply by 8 billion.

Thats my shtory, and I’m shtickin’ wid it.

“GOD WRITES STRAIGHT WITH CROOKED LINES” ~~ IRISH MAXIM

£4£&$4$&€4€&¥4¥+MY2¢etc~~~~

LAKOTA CHIEF: “I have good news and bad news.

“Maybe first the Bad News: The Pale Faces have quite thoughtlessly, even randomly, slaughtered so many of our buffalo, that nearly all that our tribe has left for this winter are buffalo chips.

The Good News: there is an ample supply of buffalo chips.”

_____

Proverbs 14:4~

“Where there are no cattle, the feeding trough is empty, but plentiful harvests come from the ‘strength’ of the BULL [°°°°].”

Capice?

These now atomizing, if not “homogenizing’ universal facts may be WHY Papa Francis declared 2014-2015 a “Jubilee Year of God’s Mercy” and titled a book that I recently spotted at our ancient local library: “The Name of God is Mercy”.

He may have been thinking of the Patron of that country where he currently abides, in a City and another country within, and after whom he named his papacy, and probably as well of the lines of biographical verse in prose by the poet Chesterton, who wrote in his thrall, “He didn’t know the nature of scorn” and: “Those who ever looked into those dark brown eyes saw the Mercy of God walking the earth.”

Among the most venerated persons who ever lived, and that may well be the “secret” why.

______

“It is for Your kindness, O Lord, that You are revered.”

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 12:46 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Paranoia strikes deep

Into your life it will creep

It starts when you’re always afraid

Step out the line, the men come and take you away….

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 10, 2020 1:45 AM
Reply to  Objective

So then let’s not start!

Objective
Objective
Aug 10, 2020 2:29 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

We better stop

Hey, what’s that sound?

Everybody look what’s going

Down.

Jen
Jen
Aug 9, 2020 10:11 PM

The most recent information on the 33 militants arrested in Belarus is that they fell for a scam cooked up by the Ukrainian intel agency (the SBU) to achieve three goals in one hit: destabilise Lukashenko’s government ahead of the elections, drive a wedge between Russia and Belarus, and find and have extradited to Ukraine those Russian citizens who fought with Donbass during the civil war in 2014. The scam – probably devised with CIA help since the CIA are ensconced with the SBU in Kiev – very nearly succeeded. To date, Belarus has refused to extradite anyone to Ukraine and Lukashenko is on speaking terms with Putin at least. But Belarus-Russia relations appear to remain frosty though this may be for show to fool the wannabe regime-change agents.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 9, 2020 11:08 PM
Reply to  Jen

Do you have a link Jen? In his speech on 4 August Lukashenko, fearful the militants were there to start another Maidan, said: “Nobody is going to steal your vote whatever some might say” (I think he meant The Guardian) “If you want another President, go to the polling station, not the Square.”

The Guardian is already squealing about foul play. It looks like a landslide for Lukashenko.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 10, 2020 12:06 PM
Reply to  Jen

Thank you Jen. A plausible perspective.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Aug 10, 2020 12:12 AM
Reply to  Jen

I read the same somewhere. The frosty relations will blow over and there may well be more intel swaping. It looks as though they will need it too if neither admin wants to fall foul of a false flag cooked up by the US and nato.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 10, 2020 11:07 AM
Reply to  Jen

But Belarus-Russia relations appear to remain frosty though this may be for show to fool the wannabe regime-change agents.

That’s my take. This is just an act that Lukashenko puts on once in a while, usually right before an election, in order to convince the nationalists among his voters that Belarus is not a ‘satellite state’ of Russia. But then, whenever he needs a quick bailout, it’s ‘Dear Slavic brothers in Russia, we have slight favor to ask!’ It’s all a game for him.

Tillingboat
Tillingboat
Aug 9, 2020 10:07 PM

Like Rome in 27 BC, the USA is transitioning from a republic to dictatorship, with Trump as the Casino boat captain version of Julius Caesar. As the end of the republic is almost complete and the US becomes a dictatorship, the only question relevant to us, is which states in the Europe and 6*-eyes CIA grouping are they trying to take with them, and if the USA will survive the collapse of the dollar, or will it be the dawn of a dark age in the western empire.
* Japan to be added.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 10, 2020 1:57 PM
Reply to  Tillingboat

Actually, a more pertinent question is whether the USA will start to have Brexit-equivalents as some states decide that independence might be preferable?

It will not happen in the next year or so, but I could certainly see possibilities by 2030.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 9, 2020 9:32 PM

From what I’ve read the 2018 flu was more deadly. Cold and flu is being politicised. Nature is being rebranded. People die every day from various things, yet deaths under lockdown are framed as coronavirus related, even if they’re not.

I go back to Prof Sucharit Bhakdi’s wisdom.

Lockdowns are killing the healthy.

Jesus
Jesus
Aug 9, 2020 9:45 PM
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Of course, we need to take that s a given, and then try to understand what is happening geopolitically. Why now what is the aim and what is the results Who gains?

Tillingboat
Tillingboat
Aug 9, 2020 9:47 PM
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Jesus
Aug 9, 2020 9:45 PM
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Of course, we need to take that as a given, and then try to understand what is happening geopolitically. Why now, what is the aim, and what is the results, Who gains?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Aug 10, 2020 12:17 AM
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The Americans and their English lapdogs have declared a war on death a trendy crisis with no down side in their view?