CCDH – The Centre For Cancel Culture And Digital Hypocrisy – Part 2
Iain Davis
IMRAN AHMED, CCHD CEO
In Part 1 we looked at the Center For Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) who, in accordance with the Commission on Countering Extremism definition, can be described as hateful extremists. In particular, we looked at their recent attack upon people who express some doubts about vaccines. It appears the CCDH are working with others to establish the censorship grid at the heart of an emerging Technofascist State.
The CCDH are a small organisation, employing no more than two people, who have been given disproportionate power and influence. They appear to comprise of one CEO, one b-list celebrity (as patron) and six board members. They state on their website that their small budget is funded by unnamed philanthropic trusts and members of the public.
The CCDH links to the parliamentary Labour Party are considerable. They appear to benefit from a revolving door between them and the UK parliament. Recently, former CCDH board member and founder Morgan McSweeney left to become Labour Leader Keir Starmer’s Chief of Staff.
Keir Starmer is the only parliamentarian who is also a serving member of the Trilateral Commission. Founded in 1973 by oil and banking tycoon David Rockefeller and political king maker Zbigniew Brzezinski, who devised Operation Cyclone to financially support, arm and equip Islamist extremists, it brings together world political leaders with global investors and bankers, academics and policy advisers. The Trilateral commission is a powerful and influential globalist policy think tank whose stated aim is to build:
[An] international system to navigate successfully the major challenges of the coming years.”
The CCDH’s association with people like London Mayor Sadique Khan, McSweeney and Starmer, afford representatives like Ahmed the kind of political clout he needs to meet with Twitter bosses and have people banned from their platform. While failing to convince Twitter to censor the views of George Galloway (give them time) they did rid the Twittersphere of right wing mouthpiece Katey Hopkins.
Personally, I have little time for Hopkins. However, if we continue to allow the censorship of people, simply because they express views we don’t agree with, the freedom of speech we are supposed to value is finished. The CCDH are a direct threat to plurality of opinion in an open and free democratic society.
CCDH Disinformation
Incorporated as Brixton Endeavours Ltd in 2018, the CCDH re-registered their name in August 2019. As a so called Non Governmental Organisation (NGO), despite an extensive web of connections to government and policy makers, under section 477 of the 2006 Companies Act, the CCDH are exempt from audit and can thus keep their finances largely secret. Financial transparency is not a requirement for UK registered NGO’s.
The CCDH’s Stop Funding Fake News campaign, encourages advertisers to avoid placing ads on websites the CCDH don’t like. Their successful campaign apparently influenced Twitter to ban the website Zero Hedge. At least the CCDH are happy to give that impression.
Among their other campaigns, Stop Hate for Profit specifically targets Facebook advertisers. Again the objective is to silence any and all who the CCDH don’t agree with.
The CCDH say Zero Hedge is a “fake news” site that spreads coronavirus misinformation. Zero Hedge republish work from other sites and, it is fair to say, the quality can vary. However Zero Hedge also produce their own content which is well researched, cites all the evidence it uses. It is very far from the genuine fake news we commonly see from the mainstream media (MSM).
The CCDH report that Twitter banned Zero Hedge for the doxxing (revealing personal contact details) of a Chinese research scientist. The offending article does report Dr. Zhou’s office contact email and work phone number, which were publicly available on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website at the time. Zero Hedge didn’t reveal anything at all, they simply reported information already in the public domain.
While failing to correct this erroneous charge of doxxing, the CCDH were spinning fake news of their own. They wrote:
…They [Zero Hedge] claimed [Dr. Zhou] was behind the global Coronavirus pandemic.”
Zero Hedge made no such claim in the article. They cited a lot of evidence which made it a perfectly legitimate question to ask. All they did was report the evidence and ask the obvious question the evidence raised.
According to the CCDH this is coronavirus disinformation. Yet it is their misreporting of the facts that is disinformation and their claims that are fake news. Which doesn’t lend much credibility to further allegations they have made against the other websites and small businesses they have decided to attack.
The CCDH numerous partners in their “Stop Funding Fake News” drive include the global NGO the World Wildlife Fund (WWF). The WWF is a project of the British Crown and has gathered support from many of the worlds biggest, so called, NGO’s, global financial institutions and governments alike.
Formed in 1961 by the eugenicists Julian Huxley and Max Nicholson (among others), it has relentlessly pursued its goal of depopulation and undemocratic global governance. All done using the ruse of environmental concern as a ploy to cover its appalling objectives.
Among it’s other founding members were Prince Bernard of the Netherlands, who established the Bilderberg Group and took bribes in the Lockheed Martin arms scandal, and his close friend Prince Phillip (the husband of the Elizabeth II) who in 1988 said that if he were reincarnated he would like to be a deadly virus to do something about overpopulation.
True to form, in its 2008 document Healthy People, Healthy Ecosystems: A Manual on Integrating Health and Family Planning into Conservation Projects the WWF advocated mass sterilisation of human beings. This research was produced with the help of Johnson & Johnson who were recently fined for putting asbestos in talcum powder. On Page 39 the WWF happily inform the reader:
…Projects also facilitate access to long-term methods [of sterilisation] such as IUDs (intrauterine devices) and permanent methods (vasectomy and tubal ligation), including organizing medical missions to travel to remote populations to deliver these services…….These efforts require particular care in ensuring that clients are fully informed and that all participation and choice is voluntary.”
The WWF, who think a healthy human being is an infertile one, is essentially a front organisation and fund raiser for the International Union for the Conservation of Nature which brings together globalist institutions like the World Bank, The European Commission, the United Nations and the US State Department.
The UK, and US governments, with the European Union, are also among the “partners” of the WWF. This gives us an insight into just how “independent” the CCDH are. It is also a glimpse at who it is that is collaborating with the social media and tech giants to establish the global censorship grid.
Despite its small size, it is clear that the CCDH pack a considerable punch. They do so because, via their labyrinthine connections, they have the backing of institutions like the World Bank, The European Union, intelligence agencies, major political parties, multinational corporations and governments from around the world. Some British Royal support never goes amiss either, and with the backing of groups like the WWF, is entirely as expected.
Their power-base is somewhat obscured through the network of NGO’s and globalist think tanks who partner with the CCDH and whom their board represent. However, by exposing these relationships, it’s pretty clear who the CCDH are and whose agenda they serve.
CCDH CEO Imran Ahmed
CCDH CEO Imran Ahmed graduated from the University of Cambridge with an MA in Social and Political Sciences. He did the obligatory stint in investment banking with Merrill Lynch, as a strategy adviser, before becoming a political aid to Labour Peer Hillary Benn.
In 2016 he supported Labour MP Angela Eagle in her failed leadership bid before establishing the CCDH (as Brixton Endeavours) in 2017.
With extensive links to the right wing of the Labour Party, given his government policy advisory role on the Commission on Countering Extremism Task Force, Ahmed’s apparent Technofascist tendencies are worrying. As we’ve already discussed, the CCDH meet the Commission on Countering Extremism definition of so called hateful extremists, however Ahmed’s personal views are particularly egregious.
He would like to see people who disagree with him imprisoned under anti-terrorist legislation. He recently stated:
I would go beyond calling anti-vaxxers conspiracy theorists to say they are an extremist group that pose a national security risk.”
In keeping with the objectives of the parliamentary Labour Party he represents, Ahmed fully supports State censorship. Talking about the need for the Online Harms Act, with regard to the people he labels as anti-vaxxers, he said:
It’s not just hatred……..There is no excuse for delay. The government must urgently table the online harms bill to put an end to vile hatred and dangerous medical misinformation online.”
Were Ahmed’s attempts to see people incarcerated for disagreeing with him not so dangerous, the irony that the CCDH’s Anti-Vax Industry report is brimming with quite staggering levels of misinformation would be hilarious. For example, talking about the highly qualified research scientist Dr Judy Mikovitz, whose well informed whistle-blower opinion Ahmed considers to be disinformation, the CCDH misleadingly report:
Mikovits enjoyed a recent surge in popularity after fronting a conspiracy theory video titled Plandemic which claimed the Coronavirus pandemic was planned in order for Bill Gates and others to profit from a vaccine.”
That is not what Mikovic or the film makers of Plandemic Part 1 said. Though basic research and honesty don’t seem to matter much to the CCDH. What does appear to matter to them is censorship that will rule out any challenge to the global political and business interests they defend.
To “evidence” their claim, rather than citing the film itself, they offer the spurious opinion of Taylor Hatmaker writing for TechCrunch.
TechCrunch are part of the Verizon Media empire, and Verizon are a participating business partner in the CCDH Stop Hate For Profit campaign. Verizon, formerly Oath inc, received $510,000 in 2016 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in order to:
…Raise awareness and understanding of neglected diseases through content creation and engagement around immersive and 360 videos.”
While neither Mikovic nor the makers of Plandemic Part 1 said the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation “planned the epidemic” in order to “profit” from the vaccine, development of the vaccine is, nonetheless, heavily funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
They have contributed $750 million to the Atrazeneca / Oxford vaccine alone. They also hosted Event 201 with the John Hopkins University and the World Economic Forum (WEF).
This planning meeting was a table top exercise of global public health “leaders” which just happened to model a global coronavirus pandemic weeks before a global coronavirus pandemic broke out. That it also modelled, in quite precise detail, the lockdown and media response we have seen to the global coronavirus pandemic is simply an amazing, almost completely unbelievable, coincidence. Apparently.
However, the CCDH don’t think you need to know this either, and they really don’t want you to watch Plandemic. So they have made up some stuff to put you off, and have then had the gall to claim their own disinformation is evidence.
But don’t take my word for it. Watch Plandemic and decide for yourself if the CCDH claims are plausible.
No one can say, with any categorical certainty, that the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation were party to planning the COVID 19 pandemic, thereby intending to profit from it. What can be said is that there is factual evidence clearly indicating this possibility.
There is also a significant conflict of financial interest pervading both the official account of the pandemic and organisations, such as WHO and Imperial College, who give policy makers the information they have used to formulate and justify their response. This fact isn’t disinformation, no matter what the CCDH want you to believe.
Not to ask these questions, or explore the evidence that prompts them, is antithetical the the very existence of a free society that values plurality of opinion. Yet somehow rank censors, like the CCDH, are among the many organisation who, while seeking to destroy our democratic values and customs, have the temerity to falsely claim the moral high ground.
CCDH Board Director Ayesha Saran
Following a very brief stint as an investigative journalist, Ayesha hopped between the UK Government Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE.) Finally settling to work for the Barrow Cadbury Trust (BCT) for the last 12 years or so. Ayesha is the Migration Program Manager for the BCT.
The BCT stated purpose included influencing public opinion. As part of their efforts they are partners with Access in the Connect Fund whose objective is to build a better social fund market.
The BCT partners, Access – the Foundation For Social Investment, were formed with the support of the Big Society Capital (BSC) and the UK government Cabinet Office. Responsibility for managing the Connect Fund has now shifted to the House of Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee (DCMS), chaired by Ayesha’s fellow CCDH board director, Damian Collins.
The public are given the impression that the NGO sector and large charities are independent of the public-private partnership state. This is essentially a deception.
Sir Stuart Ethrington
Big Society Capital is funded by the UK’s leading private banks, Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds Banking Group and RBS (now re-branded as Nat West Group.) The Connect Fund is a project of the Big Society Trust (BST) chaired by Sir Stuart Etherington, a member of the Economic and Social Committee of the European Union.
As chair of the BBC Appeals Advisory Committee, there won’t be much point complaining about CCDH disinformation reported without any scrutiny by the BBC.
Other BST board members include Ian Holmes, former Finance Director for BBC News and Current Affairs. Another is Robin Budenberg, Chair of the Crown Estate as well as chair UK Financial Investments which merged with the Shareholder Executive to become UK Government Investments (who manage the UK Government’s banking industry investment portfolio.) Direct oversight of BST by the UK Government is provided by Jo Fox from HM Treasury’s Corporate & Private Finance team.
This relationship between BCT and Access, via BST, is the epitome of how the NGO and charities shell game works. The Connect Fund doles out grants to charities who, though well meaning and staffed by honest, hard working people, are controlled at the board level by funding commitments ordained by the State and it’s corporate partners. They control the finance and the flow of information.
Someone like Ayesha, with a background in government and defence and security policy making organisations, is then appointed to a group like the CCDH, who can legitimately claim they are an NGO, despite the sprawling web of connections they have to government and the corporations. Ayesha may well have the very best of intentions but, via her connections to the Barrow Cadbury Trust, the network controllers stay abridged of the situation and can operate the levers of finance as and when required and make the decisions that count when they choose.
As we look at the Board Directors of the CCDH these connection become increasingly clear. Despite its claims of independence nothing could be further from the truth.
CCDH Board Director Lord Jonny Oats
Lord Jonny Oates is the former Chief of Staff to former UK deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. Clegg is currently the Head of Global Affairs for the social media giant Facebook. With a background in public relations and political campaign management he received a life peerage in 2015. He’s a spin doctor.
From 2004 Oates was a director of the PR firm Bell Pottinger. This probably gave him a fantastic insight into fake news and propaganda. During his time as a director, the Pentagon were working with Bell Pottinger a to produce fake terrorist videos in Iraq. The contract, worth more than half a billion dollars, saw a Bell Pottinger team stationed at the U.S. Military base Camp Victory, in the summer of 2006.
As a former Director of Communications for Number 10 Jonny has plenty of experience in government. He also worked for the Westminster Foundation For Democracy. Another globalist governmental organisation with strong ties to the European Union, the World Bank, the United Nations and the OSCE who fellow CCDH board director Ayesha Saran worked for.
CCDH Board Director Simon Clark
Simon Clark
Simon is a non resident senior fellow for the policy think tank the Center for American Progress (CAP) and an adviser to the Scowcroft Group. He is also the Chairman of Foreign Policy for America (FP4A) where he is joined by many former US government officials and advisers including Dr Stephen Grand, senior fellow of the NATO think tank the Atlantic Council. Among the FP4A advisory board are Amb. Dan Baer, U.S. ambassador to the OSCE, and Avril Haines, former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA.)
With a background in venture capitalism and investment management, Simon was also the first director of Web Services for the global news agency Reuters (called Thomson Reuters since 2008.) Simon was key in the efforts to build Fidelity’s European venture capital operation.
It is no surprise that CAP list the Fidelity charitable group among their major financial supporters. They are among the leading grant makers in the U.S, having committed more than $4.2 Bn to good causes, such as devising political policy, in 2020 alone. They manage an asset portfolio worth an estimated $30 Bn.
Rather than pay the tax that would theoretically allow the people to prioritise where the money is spent, the globalist class, often misnamed the elite, effectively withhold tax to pursue their own objectives. Fidelity is one of the leading investment management firms who channel their tax deductible investments to further their agenda.
This enables philanthropists like the Gates, the Carnegies, The Rockefellers, Soros and other globalist oligarchs to run their projects. These always advance their goals, objectives and business interests, while reducing their tax burden. All the aforementioned families finance the Center for American Progress who, through their FP4A Action Network (PAC), fund U.S. Democrat party candidates and election campaigns. This isn’t done in exchange for nothing.
The Center for American Progress recently proposed A Comprehensive COVID 19 Vaccine Plan. That policy assessment came directly from interviews with vaccine manufacturers. They recommended that, amid the process of funnelling billions of tax dollars directly into their business accounts, their pet politicians should:
Plan a massive vaccination campaign by recruiting medical experts, sports stars, celebrities, and community leaders and partnering with grassroots organizations and medical organizations.”
This massive, tax funded propaganda campaign is envisaged to change people’s behaviour. Rather than openly discuss the relative costs and benefits of vaccines, providing people with the facts and evidence they need to make their own judgement, CAP suggest using “country music stars, NASCAR drivers, and faith leaders” to change people’s opinions. The CCDH determination to roll out the flip side of this propaganda operation, namely the censorship grid, sits well with the commitments of its board director Simon, and the network of globalists he represents.
CCDH Board Director Kirsty McNeill
Aside from her role with the CCDH Kirsty is a member of the European Council of Foreign Relations (ECFR) Another globalist policy think tank whose stated objective is:
…To conduct cutting-edge independent research on European foreign and security policy and to provide a safe meeting space for decision-makers, activists and influencers to share ideas.”
Kirsty McNeill
It seems Kirsty only supports the activists and influencers who share her world view. Those who don’t agree with her should be censored and certainly don’t deserve any safe meeting spaces. Presumably, because the CCDH are totally independent and impartial, Kirsty forgets all about her commitment to European foreign and security policy when she takes her seat on the CCDH board.
As a member of the ECFR, she represents an organisation which is funded, not only by governments, but by the Atlantic Council (NATO), the Open Society Foundation (George Soros), The United Nations, the Rockefeller Brother’s Fund and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Kirsty was a special adviser to the former UK Prime Minister and Labour leader Gordon Brown. As a staunch advocate for a New World Order he unsurprisingly said the global coronavirus pandemic was an opportunity to establish global a government. In 2015 Kirsty became Director of Policy at the Save The Children Fund (STCF) after her predecessor, Brendan Cox (also an ECFR member), resigned following allegations of sexual misconduct.
From 2016 to date, during Kirsty’s time as Policy Director, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) have donated more than $40 million to the STCF. None of which had any influence over the CCDH decision to describe ordinary citizens who question vaccines as fringe radicals and extremists. The STCF are also partners of the GAVI vaccine alliance created by the World Bank, UNICEF, the WHO and BMGF.
STCF say they are really worried about the horrific loss of children’s lives in Yemen. While most of them are starving to death or being blown to bits by Saudi and UAE supplied weaponry, the STCF are also very concerned that they aren’t getting enough vaccines. Perhaps their Director of Policy could help, because the ECFR Kirsty represents are also funded by the French weapons manufacturer Thales whose missile systems are being used to kill the children in Yemen. It isn’t known if Kirsty considers them to be extremists.
Board Director Damian Collins
The CCDH describe themselves as an international not for profit “non governmental organisation.” While many of their board members have links to government and policy makers, in Damian Collins they have cut out the middle man and simply given a seat on the board to a Member of Parliament for the ruling government party.
Damian isn’t just any old government back-bencher. As an A-Listed Chair of the House of Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee (DCMS) he has a central role in the governments efforts to roll out mass censorship. The DCMS responsibilities include advising (devising) policy related to the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) and Online Harms. Damian is well placed in government to be part of the CCDH’s non governmental censorship operation.
The DCMS published their “Fake News” Report in February 2019. Obsessed with an imperceptible threat from Russia, despite acknowledging that the UK government had reported that they have “not seen evidence of successful use of disinformation by foreign actors, including Russia,” the DCMS, led by Damian, concluded:
The Government also cannot state definitively that there was no evidence of successful interference”
Damian Collins
That is to say, no evidence of something is considered to be proof that it might exist by the DCMS. The same logic means that unicorns and soup dragons are distinct possibilities.
What it really reveals is that, under Collins’ leadership, the DCMS has no interest in evidence, uncovering the truth or forming balanced conclusions. It has a clear agenda, in this case to demonise Russia, and the absence of any justification is no reason not to pursue it. With Damian on the board, the CCDH have adopted the same approach.
With the help and support of their influential network of government and non governmental backers, the CCDH have established themselves as an influential social media watchdog in a very short space of time. This is entirely in keeping with its board director Damian Collins’ plans for an Online Harms censorship grid. the DCMS state:
Social media users need online tools to help them distinguish between quality journalism, and stories coming from organisations that have been linked to disinformation or are regarded as being unreliable sources. The social media companies should be required to either develop tools like this for themselves, or work with existing providers, such as Newsguard.”
This statement is key to understanding the censorship grid that is being created. You are not encouraged to consider evidence and make up your own mind, but rather to trust the right, authoritative“sources” without question.
Those sources are the ones favoured by the government and its NGO and corporate partners. Any alternative media sources that question the State’s narrative will be deemed organisations linked to disinformation.
The DCMS recommended Newsguard is another truth-teller and fact checker which sells itself as a great bastion of epistemological certainty. Touting themselves as the Internet trust tool, they have created a handy browser extension that will automatically censor the Internet for you.
There is no attempt to encourage critical thinking, any independent research or intellectual autonomy, but rather a colour coded warning system, perfect for infants, that will do your thinking for you. Selected websites will receive Newsguard’s trust rating. This is based entirely upon a set of meaningless criteria, which sound great, but absolutely boil down to Newsguard’s bought and paid for opinion.
Newsguard’s founder and leading investor is Steven Brill. He is a member of the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) whose European branch (the ECFR) Kirsty McNeill graces. As a leading U.S. foreign policy think tank the CFR is arguably one of the most influential policy organisations on Earth.
It is likely that Newsguard’s advisers, such as Anders Fogh Rasmussen, former General Secretary of NATO, and Michael Hayden, former Director of the CIA, share Brill’s enthusiasm for U.S. foreign policy objectives. Safe to say any source which questions U.S. foreign policy will be considered very untrustworthy by Newsgaurd.
As will anyone who questions vaccines. The French communications technology giant Publicis Group are among the seed funders that got Newsguard up and running with a $6 million cash injection.
One arm of their business is Publicis Health who boast highly lucrative accounts with a range of pharmaceutical giants and vaccine manufacturers, such as Astrazenaca and Sanofi, and were excited to announce their $1.5 Bn deal with the worlds leading vaccine corporation GlaxoSmithKline. No source questioning vaccines can expect a very high “trust rating” from Newsguard.
Damian Collins resigned as a trustee and Director of the neocon Henry Jackson Society in January 2017, a couple of months after becoming Chair of the DCMS. Damian is a signatory to the Henry Jackson Society Statement of Principles.
Those principles include a supremacist ideology that all countries should adopt the policies of so called western democracies, which are all controlled by global corporations; The HJS strongly support economic and political imperialism to assist countries to adopt essentially western corporate policies; they are enthusiastic advocates for UK, European and US military dominance, including U.K and US supremacy over European defence; the have unbridled admiration for NATO and the OSCE; crony capitalism (monopolies run by global corporations) is an HJS principle, but a true free market economy has to be “limited,” and they clearly state their firm belief that any nation that isn’t within the NATO, OSCE, western military industrial and intelligence complex sphere of influence is “illegitimate.”
Damian Collins wholeheartedly subscribes to these principles. Damian Collins supports the CCDH efforts to see anyone who questions vaccines silenced and, if they won’t shut up, imprisoned under anti-hate and possibly anti-terrorism legislation. Damian Collins is elected by the people. Or at least he was, until the government he represents banned all elections.
The CCDH Are Propagandists and Censors
Regardless of its claimed lofty ideals and feigned deference for freedom of speech and democracy, the CCDH represent a globalist cartel of monopolists who seek to utterly control society under their un-democratic, authoritarian rule. The CCDH are given the power they enjoy by this same cartel, and exercise it as part of a concerted effort to destroy everything they pretend to protect.
On behalf of the Technofascist clique they serve, they are systematically preparing the ground for a legislative censorship clampdown upon all dissent and opinion that question the ambitions and orders of their corporate and government masters. They exist in a fake environment of fake NGO’s and charities, deliberately constructed to exploit the good will of men and women who are labouring in a climate of fear created by, among others, the CCDH.
The families of vaccine injured children and those who have suffered injury themselves are not anti-vaccine. Each and every one of them followed medical advice and were either vaccinated or allowed their to child to receive vaccines. The scientists who have undertaken research which highlights concerns about vaccines are not anti-science nor opposed to vaccines. They aren’t pro-disease.
Nor are independent researchers and commentators like myself who have read the evidence and have some questions. I don’t want people to die from preventable illnesses and disease. I want vaccines to work. I want them to be everything the manufacturers say they are. But there are legitimate questions that need answers.
Contrary to the ludicrous allegations of the CCDH, it isn’t those who question vaccines that are making billions. It is those who adamantly declare their vaccine products are all perfect.
Led by someone like Imran Ahmed, whose rhetoric is so vicious he describes people who ask any questions about vaccines as vile, hateful, extremists, the CCDH are a particularly nasty and corrosive organisation. Nothing they say is plausible and all they have is propaganda which they cannot defend. All they can do is silence critics with their pernicious brand of vitriolic censorship.
The CCDH is not the defender of democracy, it cares nothing for our traditions and customs, nor our precarious free speech and freedom of expression. It wants to end all of it and unless we wake up and see these corporate censors and propagandists for who they truly are, we will have everything we value torn from us. We will have no one and nothing to blame but our own apathy.
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To Mr. Iain Davis, thank you for an extraordinary piece of scholarship and due diligence.
A retired health care provider of 45 years, pharmacist/chemist with Big Pharma experience (2+ decades GSK and previous incarnations thereof) and great familiarity with vaccine development, infectious diseases, immunity and a host of other valuable understandings and experiences, this alleged world public health emergency/crisis and, eventually pandemic, hit my radar screen in mid-January. I knew, instantly, that this matter, from the outset, would spin out of control, by design, with great speed.
I was not disappointed! At first, alarmed, then, quite at ease, I quickly allowed my logical inclinations and understanding of biological science to take hold. I refused to allow the media and political circuses to gain control of my emotions. Then helping family, friends and associates to shed their fear through prudent precaution and self education. Life is far too short to live in fear, especially contrived terror.
Accusations of a weaponized virus launch, the eventual shut down of world travel (after the releases of the Trojan Horses of China), the mass uncertainty and terror, the propensity for public panic driven by scientifically inept politicians and a media willing to meet the propaganda needs of the masters driving the NWO bus, I became a voracious reader of the politics and the science behind it all. It has taken months of my time to get a handle on the aspects of what we face and what forces drive the narrative.
If “Truth” were an element on the Periodic Table of Chemical Elements, it would, indeed, be the rarest of all elements! So rare, it is ethereal at best and virtually non-existent at worst. No politician, government agency, NGO, nor corporate entity, especially Big Pharma and biotech, would ever let a good crisis go to waste.
You have in this two part series, masterfully connected the dots and spelled out the agendas, named names and Non-profit organizations (money launderers), NGO’s, governmental agencies, and other groups with wonderfully benign, wholesome monikers (World Wildlife Fund) and exposes them for what they are and what they represent.
Malthusians all, deserving recipients of all the disdain, dare I say hatred, that good people everywhere could muster. Why do we let these people walk among us?
I am more that willing to take my rightful place in the “Pantheon of Haters“ as described by the CCDH as one who still worships at the temple of the Scientific Method, knowing full well that there are now powers and perverters of such immense wealth, that even once honest scientists and researchers can name their price and be paid handsomely by their research underwriters to deliver whatever swill the agenda drivers demand to meet their ultimate goal of a totalitarian public/private partnership.
A tip of the cap to you and many of the excellent writers of some additive observational posts that date back a few days. My understanding of the big picture is now completely up-to-date and I clearly see the task at hand.
This is not the case, as the asbestos was associated with talcum naturally.
And here’s me thinking Ted Cruz had the world’s most punchable face!?
In a hypothetical world of face punching Munroe Bergoff would be pretty high up and Lilly Allen would be the King.
Just goes to show: if you go to uni, do a useless degree and fail to start a career, there is hope. Join some political chop-shop and demonstrate your propensity to kiss ass and be a milk-curdling yes-creep. You will be spotted by some agent of the powers that be and that lump of cream cheese will take your desperate ass and promote it into a totally unrealistic position – given your skills – and you can still “make it” and live in a respectable neighbourhood.
Loyalty and desperation are traits sought by the oligarchs.
I hate to say it but all sorts of companies are full of these sorts of weasels, but the more desperate they are the more weasely they are: this lot probably literally mark their territory, pissing all over the office.
Otherwise called “selling your soul to the devil”.
This is the way it has always been – The Prince, and How To Use Your Enemies are timeless guides to going through the ranks for the talentless.
So, am i to assume that you subscribe to the face evaluation of The Prince?
Assumption being the mother or father of all fuckups…
There is another school of thought on Machiavelli’s masterpiece.
I subscribe to my own view on it, I don’t read things and then decide what I think afrter chattign with others. I have lots of views on it, the essay has been ripped off countless times by NLP “gurus” and business coaches. There is only ‘another’? I would have have made the brother of all fuck ups and presmed there were more than 2 schools of thought on anything…..
Ahmed is a Jew, kill him
The only mention of “Jew” so far. Nice attempt to divert attention.
This board is rampant with this kind of stuff. I’ve always said hitler was left wing.
Well congratulations for the biggest non-sequitur of all time. Is mentioning the word “Jew” a Left wing thing? Perhaps it’s names beginning with “A”? (“argentine” “Ahmed”) Is it because I used the word “divert”?
But if you want to redefine “left wing” as “stuff I hate even though I can’t explain myself” then go ahead!
I’m redefining nothing, I’m merely stating those who align themselves with the left these days tend to not like Xe Jewz. I hate nothing, hate is a noxious emotion.
And how does that follow on from anything said so far?
Maybe you missed this “This board is rampant with this kind of stuff. I’ve always said hitler was left wing”. Are you drinking?
Yes, I know what YOU said, Ælfræd. I just couldn’t see any connection with anything previous. But I now realise that you really don’t understand the point I was making – which I thought was screamingly obvious. The above article goes into the dodgy activities of one Imran Ahmed. The article at no point refers to his “Jewishness”.
But then one “argentine” says “Ahmed is a Jew, kill him” and thus tries to make the above article look like anti-Semitism. It’s a drearily familiar tactic. And it seems – jaw droppingly enough – that you have fallen for it!
All of which leads me to two possible conclusions: either that you are part of the same con as “argentine” or you are so blinded by your mysterious but obsessive grievance against the Left that you don’t know what’s staring you in the face.
The article doesn’t look antisemtiic and the comment doesn’t make it so. It’s like saying Vera Lynn is anti-semitic because Hitler once heard her sing on that there wireless.
“argentine” has posted twice with exactly the same tactic and is clearly trying to divert the matter onto an anti-Semitic track.
Your initial reponse was:
“This board is rampant with this kind of stuff. I’ve always said hitler was left wing.”
“This board” occasionally features anti-Semitic material, some of which I am sure is agent provocateur bullshit cf. “argentine”. I have never seen anything to suggest that this comes from the Left – which is what you are clearly implying with that “hitler was left wing”.
Fair point George, the numerous antisemitic posts on this board may well be from agent provocateurs, it’s very easy to finger point at the left when in my view AS is rife throughout and of course Hitler was left wing. Like I say I understand what you are saying though and it is not an unreasonable point to make.
Argentine managed to drag the discussion down in the gutter without real effort. I blame you guys for
getting riled up by nonsense.
That being said, the way Mr. Ahmed keeps smearing and accusing his designated targets does remind me of vindictive backstabbing tribal zionist hostility.
Anti-something-ism or not, the Stern Gang and the Irgun were ruthless terrorists dedicated to their cause. Their legacy reverberates.to this day.
Admin is asleep at the wheel…
Or maybe ‘Admin’ is secretly working to shut down Off-Guardian.
Off-Guardian is asking to be shut down by the establishment.
I cannot stomach antisemitism (or any other kind of hate). I will lose respect for this site if its own policy against violent comments is not adhered to.
What a sad & oh so pathetically typical comment. The only ‘Violent’ comment seen on this post is yours.
Argentine, I understand your frustration, the Jews do occupy a lot of powerful positions and are very good at working together to benefit each other – team work – to the exclusion of gentiles, which is probably why this guy is leading this company.
But, that said, Zero Hedge is a better place to vent those sorts of feelings. I think the OG is subject to the UK hate speech laws, which ZH is not, so you probably will not get an honest reply from the mostly British crowd on here. Opression, you can’t easily get away from it.
Today two pastors left Hong Kong, driven out by the New Security Law: Oppression is happening everywhere, HK is just joining China in removing freedom of religion. And the Jews didn’t do it over here!!
Fantastic article: very well researched; very detailed and I’m sure that it is thoroughly on the money. But so what?
The longterm problem in the resistance against Technofascism is to understand it and render it “inoperable”. How: by listing facts?
Facts – and states of affairs – are theory laden interpretations: that is, if we want to look at Technofascism through a Kuhnian lens (toward a ‘paradigm shift’ away from Technofascism – aka the Misphilosophy of Man – and toward an emergent universal* humanism).
[* I use the term universal tentatively – mutatis mutandis – as an already rectified (so-called) “thin” universalism (inclusive of equalities of multiplicities of diversities) ….as an anti-metaphysical polemic].
What is a paradigm? It is pretty clear by now that no one – very probably including Kuhn himself (who backtracked – under enormous pressure – from the most radical of his conclusions) – actually knows. If we all chant ‘Aum’ on Friday at 12am: can we raise the vibration of consciousness and ‘shift the paradigm’?
A clearer idea of what Kuhn meant comes from his later vocabulary – of “disciplinary matrices” and, more tellingly, “taxonomical lexicons”. A paradigm is a linguistic category (or set of categories): a lexicon of descriptive – and therefore of cognitively biased and value-laden – pre-figured suppositions and assumptions that are formative of ‘normal science’. The normative paradigm pre-determines the empirical results and constrains them to the already known. Which is a circular auto-epistemology ….if the bias of science is not accounted for.
This is not anti-science. Science moved on (more under the influence of Popper that Kuhn). But scientism remains in the general universe of discourse. Bourdieu (pace Husserl) called them “passive doxa”: the unquestioned, value and theory-laden, and biased assumptions that underpin the daily discursions [sic]. All of them. And underlying the paradigmatic assumptiveness of the universe of discourse is another set of assumptions …a founding set of the unconscious Episteme. Rather than being the firm foundations of all discourse: they are all categorial errors.
From Aristotle through Auschwitz to Agamben and beyond: human reality has been in categorial error.
From Aristotle to Searle: you will find the same theory ….the linguistic categories we use not only frame the paradigmatics of the discourse: they define what sort of reality we can know. Which is a split reality: of a hyper-determinate objectivated division; and an ultra-indeterminate subjectivated division. Which is the dualistic and sectarian basis of the mechanism and industrialised destruction assaulting the world. If you are looking for the root paradigms of a cancel-culture: then one must negate the other. That is misphilosophy of Man…where ontology and meontology (Being and Nothingness) cancel each other out. For real.
What the fuck is he going on about seems to be the response at to trying to get to the root of the root of the problems we all face. Put simply: we cannot change the political reality by lists of facts or aversive discourse to the Technofascist necropower. We have to understand the totalitarian Leviathan more deeply than it understands itself. It’s the language: which is the repertoire of categorial interpretation, knowing, and understanding. If we use the same dualistic categorial error structure that manifested the neoliberal necropower: we can only ever reproduce the same neoliberal necropower. In a circular and scientific samsara of auto-recuperation.
Please stop thinking that a mere change of a paradigmatic descriptivism is a useless praxis. How do you bring a bloody, severed, and sectarian reality into being outside of naming, identifying, categorising, and realising automatically? You don’t. We can change social reality by recategorising it linguistically.
The new epistemic and paradigmatic categories – mutatis mutandis – develop from the bio-cognitive realisation of the nonduality and co-evolutionary potential of human and ecological co-embodiment. That is the nondifference of humanity and nature. We co-exist as intra-actant cognisers of life within life ….or we probably will cease to co-exist with anything at all ….except through the apotheosis of the theanthropogenic god-like principle of happiness pursued through libertarian identitarianism and the privatisation of property to the exclusion of all else ….which is the Sovereign droit de glave (thanatopolitical right to kill).
Which basically means we are reluctant neoliberals until the end. We cannot change our tradition except by changing ourselves: which we do through meditation and the redescription of a reality with us in it. Yes, it is a bit twelfth hour: but no one would listen to those who said “It’s the language” – or it is the Canonical Western Intellectual Tradition – that is the categorial source of a Technofascist knowing. Which is a result of a bad infinity and bad transcendental Misphilosophy of Man ….embalmed in linguistic practices.
It is the language: it will always be the language. When ‘knowing’ is founded on two overvaulting and antisymmetric ‘real’ categories – of being and not-being; self and other; and subject and object – and the meaning of language is the relation of the two dead, embalmed categories ….how fucked up is the knowing going to be? An absolute totality of Technofascist Sovereignty?
It’s the language. Until a new discourse can be started – toward a new Episteme of nondualism and a new universal humanist paradigmatic set of linguistic categories – it will always be the language. The facts remain the same when the paradigm changes: only the knowing and the interpretative ‘world’ changes. It is how we know the facts: not the the listing of the facts that will change the way we live.
The Great Unwashed Masses live via directives of the English Language and concomitant epistemological belief systems that tradition promulgates via literature and cultural norms, folkways, and social mores.
Universality can be obtained via Systems Theory and the language of Cybernetics proper. The Social Science Cognitive discipline is the only way forward for humanity and humanitarians alike.
Systems Theory and resultant language of Cybernetics is pretty much value neutral as a universal operating system of language that can indeed undermine the neoliberal non-universal totalitarian state hegemony of language and discourse.
P.S. Liked the comments you made very much as I’m a Social Science Personality Theory grad that knows Husserl, Kuhn, Aristotle, et cetera.
P.S.2. What is your educational background if I may be so bold to ask?
MOU
My educational background is the proverbial University of Life. I did a philosophy foundation course with the aim to doing PPS (Politics, Philosophy, Sociology) – but never completed my degree. Drifted into the Deep Ecology scene around Findhorn and Zen at Throssel Hole Priory. The rest is a very eclectic history.
FWIW: I think an ecosophical systems science incorporating Maturana’s bio-cognition, languaging, and Varela’s later enactivism (which incorporates the ecodharma) is the Way out of this shithole of our own making. As Thich Nhat Hanh said: “We are here to heal our separation”. In the spirit of Maturana: the human-nature symbiosis is the first category of a biology of love.
Humberto Maturana was assigned reading back in 1995 when I was doing my Experimental Psychology degree and majoring in Personality Theory. Maturana’s _A Frog’s Eye View of the World_ [Journal of Personality] was the only paper I have read thus far. Maturana’s ecological perspective is cool stuff, but the Neurosciences would reduce him to mere neurotransmitter and synapse on Oxytocin.
Love can be reduced to insanity as well. And the insanity defense is legal definition only.
You should have majored in Personality Theory as I did. Your Zen eclecticism is core being and self. It is core of your personality. IMHO you quit your degree because you were on the wrong path at the time and the degree did not coincide with the path you wanted to pursue.
If you had stuck with formal education you would be a doctor by now, eh.
Not to belabor the point but you can still get that degree and more given where you left off on the School of Hard Knocks.
And if the degree thing is outdated for you there is always writing and authorship of books. You are intelligent enough to do whatever you want to do IMHO.
very best, MOU
Yeah. Maybe. But as Mao said – “Power comes from the barrel of a gun”. Real change will never be achieved by asking politely for it, especially when you those you are asking basically comprise a hive-mind of psychopaths.
Good luck taking on the current necropolitical power structure with a gun. They are waiting for that to justify the completion of a totalitarian Technofascism. In the spirit of Gramsci: we have got to be a bit smarter than that. The weakness’ are in the fact that power reproduces itself as a natural and inevitable unfolding of history ….aka the Hegelian-Kojevian ‘End of History’ thesis. Which is total bollox, and everyone – except Fukayama – knows it. There is a moral, political, juridical. ethical, right and just highground to be taken. Which we could walk right into and hold, one day! History and law are on our side: science too …if we learn how to use them.
You should post more often BB. I miss the intellectual input.
It’s been a tough few months for all of us. I had to get my head straight!
Sometimes, holding tight is more damaging, than letting go …
It would have been a futile waste of your (or my) time, trying to discuss or illuminate, in the face of such publicly perceived propagation of yet another illusory terror, to mask the enormity of corruption. In the dualistic sense, as you wisely highlight, we would have made ourselves complicit. Far better to focus on direction, way closer to home , which is where Tolstoy was signalling, when he suggested that there would be only one permanent revolution: and that it would come from within the hearts and minds of the people. The moral one…
So glad you took the time and to have you back, fitter than ever in your mind.
Yep, it’s the language, no question, you nailed it as always, combined with lost values and fake incantations bringing an arrogant intonation from those in the public eye, that demonstrates zero respect for harmony in a life of indicovidualism,
Let alone individualism and the development of an awareness of self, morally.
Like you, wherever & whenever possible, the avoidance of violent radical reactionary recourse, has been a lifelong crutch, for me, in avoiding the vortex of ever decreasing circular motion down the plughole of dualism… and as a child, without prompting from others, i always considered ‘The Prince’ as a profound psychological warning to ‘self’, that needed nurture, love and respect.
Fancy a Bacon sandwich BigB? Lol…
Wishing you and your dearest & nearest,
All the best, in mind over serious matter,
Tiny Tim tiptoeing through the tulip-wars…
Loving the bees & big bees, buzz & vibe.
“The long term problem in the resistance against Technofascism is to understand it and render it “inoperable”. How: by listing facts?
This is a crucial point, which you elaborated comprehensively, especially here:
…Put simply: we cannot change the political reality by lists of facts or aversive discourse to the Technofascist necropower. We have to understand the totalitarian Leviathan more deeply than it understands itself. It’s the language: which is the repertoire of categorial interpretation, knowing, and understanding. If we use the same dualistic categorial error structure that manifested the neoliberal necropower: we can only ever reproduce the same neoliberal necropower. In a circular and scientific samsara of auto-recuperation.
I couldn’t agree with you more. We are not going to “defeat” the technofascists. By engaging in the battle we lose. It cannot be any other way, because to engage we must accept the duality, and accept our point of opposition, which ultimately can only ever result, at some point, in continuation of the same.
I wrote a list of facts, not because I propose some form of opposition, but because I recognise many are not aware of the nature of the beast we all face. Which is the one you have described. Its intrinsic nature is deception, to hide its intent, and before we can search for solution, we must “understand the totalitarian Leviathan more deeply than it understands itself.” Totalitarian reductionists masquerading as moral bastions of truth.
May I respectfully suggest the first step in that process is seeing, or acknowledging, the Laviathon. I hope that by exposing the evidence which reveals it, more will recognise it for what it is. I do understand that the first response, once the beast can be seen, it to oppose it, but this is necessary (in my view) before the search for the solution can lead us to nondualism. Which can be expressed politically in the voluntarism of the Agora.
By positing an opposition: we immediately assume the Beast is outside us ….and we can stand against it. From the proposed nondual view: this is the observer who is exterior to the observed system. Who is a passive and neutral observer: unable to either participate or intervene. This traditional view has all but dissipated our constitutive power for real change (not merely a change in the personnel who administer an unchanged system of power).
A nondual transformation – a radical transformation or real change – has to come from the acceptance that we are the Leviathan. Or we are (voluntarily) within the belly of the Leviathan. Which is in fact a politico-juridical given. We, the People, are the dual person of the subject – as the subordinates of rule – but also, we retain the Sovereignty. So many of the descriptions (in fact, nearly all of them) I have seen in the last few months split us off from our Sovereign power to leave us as purely slaves. Voluntary slaves to our own alienated constitutive power and lost autonomy.
When the People voluntarily give up their constitutive power to the fossilised dogma of the always already constituted necropower: we are already in a Technofascist dreamworld. Or nightmare world, as it turns out. With no power of restitution.
What can happen – which is not to say it will happen – is the People can retain their autonomy, constitutive power, and Sovereignty – to create a person-centred, other-centred, human-scaled world ….rendering the trans-national ‘global society’ of self-maximising money multiplication oncology [sic(k)] “inoperable”. This world – a social real – has to be brought forth out of a restituted act of language
What largely has to change for this is not the ‘external’ historic circumstances (globalised political economy): but the ‘internal’ historic contingencies. In reality: there is not even a bio-physical dialectic in place ….except as a figurative metaphor. There is only a nominal difference – and ontological nondifference – between ‘inner’ and ‘outer’. There can be an active “human-nature symbiosis” whereby the passive, externalised subject can become the active Sovereign of a new natural law. We did this in antiquity across an ever widening nature-cultural divide – which has proved to be an abomination of natural law. In short: the resulting economised Man – Homo Oeconomicus – can yet become fully human.
No one wants fucking globalisation! Expecting ‘them’ to change is just completely futile. We have to positively embody and enact the changes we want in the world by using our constitutive power to heal the world’s separation by healing ourselves ….decolonising our cognition from an unnatural dualistic division and dereifying the institutions of separation. Too many of the People seem to think they can stay the same and the world will change for them. The Leviathan is within. Or we are within the belly of a Leviathan constituted by our own power ….a juridico-political constitution brought forth in language. Linguistic constructs of hyper-individualism, mechanism (causal dependency), anthropocentrism (culture/ nature separation), progress (permanent growth imperative) ….brought forth from categorial separation externalising the ‘world’ from our constitutive power to heal. In short, the linguistic categories we have inherited justify an econometric world of disembodied, unlimited, and unconditioned minds in search of an elusive happiness in pursuit of private property. Which is costing us the Earth. Time for the true Sovereign to categorially reign that in.
Well said. I agree though perhaps we differ on the issue of private property.
For me the pursuit of private property (causing harm or loss to others) is very much the belly of the beast we all live in but it differs from the holding of private property (as an individual sovereign human being) which does not cause harm or loss to others.
This gets us into discussions on resources and scarcity which I won’t raise here and is somewhat of a side issue. Save to say it is not that the world has too few resources, nor that there are too many of us, but rather that too few control all the resources.
But I absolutely agree that we are trapped in the Leviathan which I will call the system. Firstly globalist, then devolving down through the layers of the pyramid, via corporations, governments and local governments, wrapped in our financial systems and childish political systems, it is us, all of us, who maintain this Leviathan. We do indeed create it ourselves. Or rather, we have been trained to create it ourselves.
Ultimately it does not serve us, the people, it only serves the interests of those who control all the resources. We are now living through the process of the resource controllers extending their grasp over nature itself, which they seek to steal solely for their own benefit at the exclusion of the rest of humanity. While we still cling to this system it will remain. No matter what protest or changes we make.
The system we live in, that we give renewed life to every day, is the Leviathan and all it will ever do is consume us. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism are merely tentacles of the system.
The system is the belief in authority and all evil, oppression, injustice and enslavement always springs from this belief. Seeking to change one system of authority for another, may provide some with temporary relief, or provide temporary advantage, but while the belief in authority remains, so does the Leviathan and it will continue to destroy us.
Zinkzas
Aug 13, 2020 4:38 PM
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I keep trying to explain context, why these thing are happening to us, even in Europe. Why Covids is happening and why political and why economic earthquakes are shaking our countries: It is mainly due to the machinations of the largest empire in History, where even a ripple will shake us to our core.
The USA’s paralysis over it’s runaway debt, it’s banking crisis, it stretched military budget, the brooding civil unrest, the elites looting of the national treasury, which is finally undermining the worlds reserve currency, the golden goose that keeps the USA afloat, is an unnecessary paralysis.
It is a mystery to me, why they are so fixed on such a suicidal route. There are alternative ways out of this mess they are in, that offer some hope of stability. They could rise taxes, up interest rates and ride the recession that follows, doing their best to preserve the dollar and help their population and reducing the mass civil unrest, and food riots, coming….but they really can’t do it. It is somehow impossible as the country is currently structured.
The detachment, callus, remoteness and greed of the Washington elite is so blind, so driven, that they would rather a dictatorship than share their wealth with a desperate, destitute, population.
It seems it is an absolute political impossibility to change their course, there is a brick on the accelerator, put their by their own greedy elite, who want more and more of our wealth in Europe and who are cannibalizing their own populations wealth until they are nothing more than dried out corpses.
There is no way that the USA will function as anything like a democracy after November 2020. This election is their last, in an already fraudulent democracy. Finally their deep state, an alliance of the military and surveillance machine will do away with even the pretense of a democracy, in the final coup and decisions will be made in the interests of a very small elite by executive orders and the population will fall victim to all kinds of unreported horror.
Just need to recap what I think I know and what is actually true or likely.
1: So the W.H.O over a decade ago had the word “pandemic” redefined argueing that the word was simply too scary and it needed to be redifined as to soften its meaning? Then fast forward a decade or so and the W.H.O along with the governments, the world bank, and mainstream media decide to scare the fuck out of everyone they can by using the very word they redifined as it was considered too scary, to scare us? Isn’t it more likely they redifined with this moment in mind? and they needed to downgrade its definition so this bollocks of a virus can be classified as a pandemic? Would this virus given what we know been called a pandemic before the W.H.O decided it needed to mean something else entirely?
2: Depsite claims by some, (some oxford prof on twitter, looks like a shill?) that all four Koch postulates have been met, they haven’t? and if they haven’t it is more likely because if they did try, they would fail and discover this is simply a variation of the flu?
3: That under 500 people to date have died solely of “covid1984” where there have been no KNOWN other comorbidities? The lack/ban? of post mortems on the deceased is to keep this hoax going and if it was not a hoax and it truly was a deadly virus threatening us all, wouldn’t they have conducted post mortems as a matter of urgency and scientific discovery? Procedure wise how does this compare with the Hong Kong Flu in the UK? I am guessing it is more likely they have thrown away all protocols simply to fit the fairy tale they are trying to spin and again, if they was to allow the normal protocols then they would very well find themselves facing stiff prison sentences?
It is one of those days where I wonder do I really know anything? I would like to think I am on the money, need to feel more confident in what I am saying, as I am getting increasingly more vocal, the more confident I am in my position the more louder I will get, can’t and will not accept this lunacy any longer, already I am scowling at fit healthy people wearing masks, and shop workers, soon the checkout assistants will become targets, I might very well just fill my trolley up go through checkout whilst engineering a bit of a kefuffle to simply walk away leaving it all there and telling them wear to go, just make sure the person behind me is wearing a mask as would hate to cause an inconvience to a sane person.
“It is one of those days where I wonder do I really know anything?”
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” – Bertrand Russell
Don’t pick on checkout staff. They have to wear a mask by law.
I know how you feel tho’. I sometimes make sheep noises as I pass people wearing masks
unnecessarily.
Where I live, from tomorrow, you will have to wear a mask everywhere and soon probably a snorkel. 🙁
Some checkout staff are enjoying this too much, I know of several very OTT shop assistants working the checkouts at Tesco, for them they have never felt so important nor will they ever again, they constantly tell people to do this that and the other, they are imho targets, I get what you say about some having to wear them by law? I thought the law was for the plebs to wear them when in stores in England, I am in Wales where there is no such law but still the halfwits persist. There is one particularly nasty checkout assistant who has managed to piss quite few off, myself included, I could let it go, but nah, across the road there is a B&M the staff there do have to wear ppe and most are so blooooody cheerful and make it known they don’t like wearing it and how they wouldnt if they didnt need the money, then we have an Aldi where the staff dont have to wear masks or ppe just have the screens at the tills, they too are awesome, have had quite a few chats there where the concensus is they really dont believe it, one even said to me if it was true, they would have all been dropping like flies. So perhaps I should have made that more clearer about the Hitleresque type till assistants, staff and any other fucker who wants some 😉
As nitwittery goes, you are getting high in the stakes for first prize. Where do you get that figure of ‘500’ from? And where are the ‘500’ located? You seem to imagine that it is credible that literally millions of health workers, including doctors, porters, ambulance drivers etc, in most of the countries of the world, have been co-opted into taking part in a conspiracy so monstrous that the imagination fails, and that this is a credible proposition.
I find most of this conspiracy theorising, especially to be found on off-G, to be confirmation of the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis.
I said under 500 as the last time I looked it was just over or under 350.. so thought 500 a good figure.
So are you saying the koch postulates have been fulfilled? if so can you supply that old skeleton in the closet called evidence?
Are you saying they never redefined what “pandemic” means? if so how is it there are plenty of articles about them doing it when one elects to scrub out 2019/2020 from the search criteria.
It is all very well you saying that but you are not convincing me how or why I am wrong which is what I would do if I was sure on something and someone was not so sure, I would seek to put them right, not take the piss.
Last time you looked – where? And you still haven’t explained the millions of co-conspirators.
“Contrary to what is often preached in conventional mass media and taught half-heartedly in schools, virtually all serious decision-making is secretive; i.e., conducted out of public view. Naturally almost all business (corporate) decisions are taken secretly by management and announced once they have been taken. The same is generally true for all governmental operations, especially in a society that values business practices more than democratic ones. The government in a parliamentary system may occasionally lose a division or plenary vote. However, the plenary session is not where the bills are drafted or chosen for decision. All of these “democratic” preparations are taken in meetings from which the general public is excluded, but those with a special interest in the acts to be adopted are explicitly included.
This is no more clearly the case than now when most of the European Union is subject to siege regulations that were never debated in public and for which no democratic regulation is provided, especially to provide an end to it all.
Hence those who read further and feel their knee tensions rising, waiting to jerk at any moment with the expletive “conspiracy theory” should bear the foregoing in mind. The controversies found on all sorts of websites and in chat groups are not about whether there are conspiracies (those who do not use the word avoid it out of cowardice or ignorance) but what is the nature and content of the conspiracy or conspiracies that substitute for public health policy and democratic decision-making in the current crisis?”
https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/04/the-first-circle/
Very interesting. But the author seems to concede that the ‘deep state’ or whatever you want to call them, are far-seeing, efficient, undivided and intelligent.
I refuse to accept that. The people we are opposing are just people – they have internal divisions, they can’t see the future, they labour under the disadvantages of being detached from ordinary life, being competitive capitalists, being fundamentally right-wing and therefore being inflexible, more inclined to stupidity, having authoritarian tendencies, which are generally disadvantageous to clear thinking, and being just as subject to fucking up things as anyone else, and having to try to coerce a whole world full of people, not all of whom are brainwashed or stupid.
These latest conspiracy theories that they “caused the Virus” or that “masks are a ploy to make everyone subservient” are just terminal stupidity.
Marx gave a clear understanding of who the enemy was, and what they were attempting to do, 150 odd years ago – there is no need to change that understanding, with the exception that we now have to take on board that the world, its inhabitants and its resources are finite.
You are trying to ridicule the idea of “deep state” and “conspiracy” by driving the concept to an extreme. It is not a vast over-arching unified group. (That takes us into the field of “Grand Conspiracy” whereby one group has been controlling everything for millennia. It comes as no surprise that this kind of idea merges easily with supernatural/science fictional notions about aliens, Atlantis etc.)
But I think Marx himself would be amused at how the very concept of conspiracy has become, as Michael Parenti once said, a kind of “intellectual leprosy”. That tainting of the idea of conspiracy is very definitely a matter of deliberate psychological moulding of a similar type to the one that ridicules the welfare state.
I don’t have any problem with most of what you say. Yes, the people we are opposing are “just people”, although you quite correctly modify that statement with “they labour under the disadvantages of being detached from ordinary life”. This, of course, is a class issue. And they are all serving capitalism which follows the iron law of profit maximisation. No-one can see the future, but these ones are in an advantageous position re: power and opportunity. They are looking out for their class and they are trying to look into the future as far as possible.
I’m not sure I would define them as “inflexible”. Sure there is inflexibility with that profit motive but in order to facilitate that motive I think these rulers are capable of any amount of manoeuvring.
I think the bit about coercing people is wide of the mark. People are already coerced because they are ultimately ruled by the brutal fact that they need a livelihood and cannot afford to “rock the boat”. There is also the matter of a mainstream media which is under the control of the rulers. And yes, I know there is a certain amount of leeway in the media, but the brutal bottom line is that it’s the money that decides what media organs are most visible. Any amount of “alternative views” can be expressed but only on the margins where they can easily be disparaged as “nutty”. All of this means that public “freedom” of opinion is compromised by a media that constantly misleads.
I don’t think the rulers “caused” the virus. My own view is that the virus is real but is nowhere near as deadly as is being made out. A crash was on its way anyway and the rulers are masking it (no pun intended) behind this virus – which will get the blame for it. Also, we have the basic form of an emerging police state, justified by the “emergency”.
You end up with Marx who I have the highest respect for – but once again I say that he would have been bemused by this demonisation of “conspiracy theory”. Of course, there are conspiracies. They happen all the time. It’s how everyone operates – the rulers who want to maintain power and, hopefully, the ruled who will start to make plans for themselves.
All of your post is pretty unarguable with, but:
You say “People are already coerced because they are ultimately ruled by the brutal fact that they need a livelihood and cannot afford to “rock the boat”
This is of course true, but the consequence of that is that real, revolutionary change can only come in circumstances where these strictures no longer apply, and people become both desperate and liberated from day to day concerns, as mere survival becomes difficult.
I imagine that the crisis of capitalism will not precede but follow the ‘crisis of resources’, ‘crisis of water and food supply’, and ‘crisis of global warming and climate change’ which are imminent, (i.e. within the next 20/30 years) and that then there is a good chance to get rid of capitalism.
Of course, what I can imagine, the forces of reaction can imagine too. I think that current attempts at migration control are in preparation for trying to control a potential mass movement of populations from south to north. My hope however, is that the great mass of humanity can overcome the reactionaries through sheer weight of numbers. In that light the current Covid crisis is not even a dress rehearsal.
Then the problem becomes – how to ensure that we get a fairer society, rather than a different kind of oppression. Enter Marx, Bakunin, Trotsky, Proudhon, et al.
Nothing to disagree with there.
Regarding the millions of health workers, merely doing one’s job does not make one a co-conspirator. It is entirely possible to treat the effects of even an overblown “pandemic” without having been co-opted – at least without being aware of having been co-opted.
Not everyone (present company included) has the time to research everything – although something which presents as wildly anomalous to normal procedure certainly warrants research.
Dr Sucharit Bhakdi is a specialist in microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history.
Dr Wolfgang Wodarg is a German physician specialising in Pulmonology, politician and former chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.
Dr Joel Kettner s professor of Community Health Sciences and Surgery at Manitoba University, former Chief Public Health Officer for Manitoba province and Medical Director of the International Centre for Infectious Diseases
Dr John Ioannidis Professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).
Plus quite a few others are, sadly, the very stuff of the Dunning-Kruger Effect it would seem. So sad.
It’s not even an effort for me to scowl at mask wearing normies, I find them repulsive. They are the problem. If people just used their brain and weren’t pathetic weak cowards, none of this tyranny would gain traction.
Not much evidence of you using your brain. You probably find ‘tyrannies’ lurking under your bath, bed, armchair and, more credibly, your hat.
What we don’t need is trivialities being elevated into tyrannies. There are enough real tyrannies going about which need to be fought, without inventing spurious ones which just distract everyones attention.
Not going along with it IS one of the ways of fighting it. Everybody doing as their told = tyranny very quickly. Everybody rebelling makes tyranny impossible. Normie.
Rebelling by not wearing a mask? Yeah – that’ll really hit them where it hurts!
And in case you haven’t noticed, most of the population already go along with what they are told – they don’t need to be told to wear a mask as extra insurance of that. Not wearing a mask is NOT a rebellion – it’s just juvenile stupidity.
You appear to be rather dim. If everybody refused the mask, and all these nonsense measures, how would they be enacted?
And you think that would bring down the state and we would all live happy ever afterwards? You’ve got a nerve calling anyone dim!
Now you are going off on tangents. Nothing you’ve said refutes my original point. Go away, dim troll.
For your benefit, I would suggest that unless you have some big idea or army that is going to stop the global mafia intent on our subjugation – gradual awareness and rejection is the only solution.
Poor effort -5 points
These two articles made me look up what goes on elsewhere. Is the ccdh’s French equivalent the observatoire de la haine en ligne which has become operative since the end of July 2020? It does seem to include organizations that do raise questions. However it also includes one called la quadrature du net. I know nothing about any of this. From its wepage the latter does seem to be genuinely campaigning for freedom and the end of surveillance and censorship. Does anyone know anything?
To tell the truth, at this point everything is so evil and complex, having come across people that genuinely seemed to be on the forefront of the covid anti-narrative who may actually be covertly working for the narrative, that Im willing to believe that what seems white is in effect black disguised as white and conversely.
Possibly in the end our only means of defense is our simple straightforward honesty. We should certainly be aware of the complex evil which we are faced with and those who can should courageously and relentlessly investigate and denounce. Yet we will always remain far behind: by the time we find anything out, the level of evil would have worsened…
(I knew things werent good, and knew much, but I feel Ive followed a crash course in evil doings in the last months, a course with both theory and its newest application).
We need to return to simple values, the same values that were upheld millennia ago, and that have remained unchanged because these values are what define us as human.
We have to reinstate those values in all ways we can, in all ways available to each of us.
Only like that will humanity triumph once again. The evil now is too strong, too complex, it has powers which even united we wont have access to. We cant defeat it in a direct attack.
We have to do something which this evil is not ready for.
Not giving you a up/down tick but want to respond to your ‘awakening’.
“ that Im willing to believe that what seems white is in effect black disguised as white and conversely”
Welcome through the looking glass!
Now – some cautionary advice as you stumble and trip and rise? towards further truths – the notions of ‘evil’ and ‘return to past simplicity’s’ are best left behind with the shards of the lying mirror you seem to have overcome.
Good luck with the rest of your journey and watch out for the ‘spikeds’ along the way – maybe you will make it to where we are gathering.
The only way to defeat it is mass awareness about what’s going on and where it’s coming from. Very few people are aware of it. To the point that you are immediately censored / downvoted / rejected / ostracised for mentioning their name. I’m not that hopeful this will be achieved in my lifetime. I can’t live without a sliver of hope, however.
Keep in mind a large proportion of the people will always merely follow whatever those around them do. Maybe it’s cynical, but it’s also a relief : No need to make them aware of anything.
another Unite For Freedom poster
https://twitter.com/TJ49293165/status/1293904214523932673/photo/1
these people need hanging
https://www.bi.team/
i think it was Cameron who got this lot involved in government and they’ve been killing people ever since
https://twitter.com/SikhsForTruth/status/1293590425140330497
time to out them also
My way of countering cancel culture and digital hypocrisy is to tell of an endearing incident that happened to me today:
The promised delivery didn’t happen this morning so off we went to collect some chicken from a farm some 20 miles away. Crap weather, very dull and misty, the usual crap british summer after storms and lightening all night – collected the goods and returned home via the local town where images of the ‘maskpeople’ reverberated everywhere – they were out in force, standing outside the pub with masks on chatting, going in and out of shops with their masks around their necks, routinely following regime instructions even without knowing why ….
Arrived home to find no delivery but a card – going to deliver tomorrow now – but the driver added to the card – and I quote – ” I completely agree with all your signs – well done!!” – we regularly have posters on our front door about the scam
Dead chuffed – so we had a lovely late lunch of sirloin steak (from our favourite Lake District butcher) and a bottle of Pontet-Canet Pauillac – fuck ’em
p.s forgot to say Rhys, you’re on fire mate, good to see you again!
Nice story. More agree than we know. But there is no such thing as ‘cancel culture’ it is just censorship and it is being carried out by our current right-wing government, not by some ‘left’ wing boogymen as most assume.
there is no left or right now. they are all controlled by the globalists
Socialism will not vanish just because you in the far-right want it to go away.
It will always haunt you because it is the interests of the population politically expressed.
Yes. There are far too many people who are willing to ascribe almost superhuman powers and insight to the ‘deep state’ or the oligarchy. Thus all the ‘masks are to accustom the populace to subservience’ and ‘Covid is a conspiracy, hardly anyone has died’ and all the rest of the tripe these people come out with.
The truth is that while billionaire oligarchs probably do co-operate to a certain extent, and that there do exist loose conspiracies to allow them to perpetuate their positions, they are not as well organised as your local co-op. But it would suit them for these ‘superhuman’ lies to be accepted as true. No doubt that’s why they exist.
But they will starve or die from a wound just the same as everyone else. We should remember that for future reference.
Whats this so?
https://www.weforum.org/press/2020/06/the-great-reset-a-unique-twin-summit-to-begin-2021
Me no comprehend “Whats this so?” Do you be talk English so?
However, – your link? So what? It’s not a blueprint for universal omnipotence – just another talking shop.
Exactly. This right and left slogan is keeping society divided. Sincerely,
what used to be left values for many, were simply to try to put within the social structure the simple notion that when someone needs help, like is ill, or unable to work, or whatever, then others (society) should help. That everyone has the right to some minimal, like food, shelter, and clothing.
And it should not be forgotten that much of the resistance in France and elsewhere were communists, who gave their life. That without the USSR’s population’s amazing sacrifice, goodness knows what would have happened. Im talking of Nazism. The common socialist or communist has been at the forefront of every social fight in most of the 20th century. Every single person owes much of the social advantages they may have enjoyed in life to them.
There is no left today. Just like science has been perverted into scientism, it has been perverted into immorality, just like conservative values have been perverted into parochialism and a rejection of others: the other.
We see today where all these 3 perversions have led us to:
Under the dogma of scientism, human cooperation and the harmony and unity among the diversity been perverted into a profit-dominated globalization and uniformization, and the rejection of others, has resulted in each individual becoming now the other for everyone else, the other who is going to infect them and make them die.
“And it should not be forgotten that much of the resistance in France and elsewhere were communists, who gave their life.”
Partisan warfare was the cruelest of tactics, total war was the aim, so no longer could civilians expect peace under new rulers when the front passed over. This was State Terrorism pure and simple.
Every day brings more good news on this virus, there are now so many more cases but nobody is going to hospital. Either the tests are Bullshit or the virus is now completely safe. Either way the virus is no longer a threat.
In a way, what Bernays said about the small number of people controlling the public mind may not be so true. The essence of the mind is that it is not quite the same thing as the body, and that separation gives people at least the illusion that they have some control over their own bodies.
I think, in essence, that this small number of people are controlling our bodies, and not our minds. Large numbers of us know that something is very wrong with what the “authorities” are dumping on us right now. Our minds have grasped that, but our bodies are fearful of the consequences of doing something about it.
After all – at least as I see it – the politicians of the world are all in it. That means their numbers are so large that they can always hide behind each other, like the spineless scum they are, secure in the knowledge that countless others are perpetrating exactly the same moral crimes against their own society.
How do you pick on one of them in order to ridicule and shame them? They are everywhere – planted, cloned and bred over recent decades – the Body Snatchers and the Midwich Cuckoos of the 21st Century. They already have our bodies where they want them, but our minds…? Well, not yet, although of course we know they are working on it.
It’s hard to disagree with what you say. Sam Harris and his fellow neuro-scientists notwithstanding, the mind really does seem to be a somewhat separate entity from the body.
Rather than being a strength, though, it may be a weakness in that the “raw” mind is such a hodge-podge of contradictory stuff that unless one has deliberately undertaken to sort it all out and put all the stuff into an orderly arrangement which gives rise to critical thought, that mind is potentially mere putty in the right hands.
The body has its own “wisdom”: it will recoil from something threatening. The mind seems not to have such a fail safe built in.
An interesting take.
My conclusion is that the mind also has its own wisdom, but you have to give it a chance, using exactly the process you outline here:
“…unless one has deliberately undertaken to sort it all out and put all the stuff into an orderly arrangement which gives rise to critical thought, that mind is potentially mere putty in the right hands”
That is, I think, the whole purpose of our being here as human beings, rather than as trees, birds, or lumps of rock.
“mind is potentially mere putty in the right hands” – another one. Why are you people so susceptible to this brainwashing? Get a life!
Ironic post. 🙂
One should endeavor to give concrete examples when offering an opinion. That is why I used myself to prove my point. I have indeed been thoroughly brainwashed into believing “a mind is a terrible thing to waste.” Please help me overcome this character flaw. Thank you.
OK. I’ll be serious. I agree with your belief that the mind is separate from the body. I don’t believe that makes us ‘putty’ in anyone’s hands – like almost everything you can graph, there is very probably a ‘bell-shaped-curve’ of gullibility in any population. I’m not going to expand on the first point, although I would like to, because the result would be a horde of materialists, rabid anti-religionists and paranoid opponents of what they call ‘wooo’ descending on me, and really, there is no arguing with those sorts – they are on a crusade (although they would probably object to that usage.
Finally I apologise for being abusive – it becomes a habit where others do the same.
I try not to be rude or abusive. However, sometimes being sarcastic and whimsical can be even more mean spirited than downright rudeness.
I used to frequent Truthdig when it was still an active publication. Its Comment section was often flooded with “trolls” who generally posted something completely irrelevant – these I ignored.
But there were also those who were (I believe mistakenly) labeled as “trolls” when they simply presented dissenting opinions. I find conformity for the mere sake of conformity discomfiting – even when I personally agree with the object of such conformity.
Fraternity, comrade.
I think the drinking water has been spiked with powerful disassociatives.
Good auld special K has the word in a K hole.
You have it right this time.
“small number of people are controlling our bodies” – you puerile idiot. That’s what they would like you to think, and you just go along with it!
Sometimes I lose hope in the sanity of the human race.
Jams. Please relax.
I am well aware that they want to control our minds too. This isn’t “bodies OR minds”. It’s both.
The point I was making is that there lies some hope FOR US in the fact that our minds are not the same thing as our bodies, although it is also unfortunately true that, for many, they essentially are the same…
I am too old and decently-educated to be a “puerile idiot”, so kindly stop the abuse.
Fair enough. I recant!
Thankyou for your gentlemanly courtesy.
And yours. Good manners are at a premium on this site.
I am taking the liberty of re-posting this link which @Caltrop originally posted earlier. It is of immense significance in getting closer to finding out what on earth is going on. The analysis looks at actual published WHO documents which stated in black and white in September 2019 that there should be a ‘live exercise’ by September 2020 involving a global pandemic of a respiratory pathogen, to test preparedness and reactions. It would also provide an explanation as to why Russia is ‘going along’ with it as they were one of the parties represented in drawing up the initiative. Please note also that the UK is represented on the WHO Group behind the concept and work on it by Sir Jeremy Farrar (Head of the Wellcome Foundation) who also happens to be on the Government’s SAGE Committee.
I find the evidence compelling and extremely difficult to pass off as all coincidence. We may have been used as guinea pigs and victims in a giant and deadly global experiment.
”September 2019 that there should be a ‘live exercise’ by September 2020”
When they said a rehearsal they did not mean the shut down of the entire world economy.
That is not a rehearsal that is mass destruction, therefore would NOT be agreed to by ANY member of the WHO. Get a grip, you people you have lost your marbles. There was a crime but your motive is pathetic. This is just CIA distraction pointing away from themselves and their own psyops.
It also hides the fact that the Russians have AGAIN out maneuvered the CIA by coming up with a fake vaccine for the CIA’S fake virus. It is a masterstroke by a KGB pro. Challenge its effectiveness if you dare Mr Trump.
”September 2019 that there should be a ‘live exercise’ by September 2020”
When they said a rehearsal they did not mean the shut down of the entire world economy.
That is not a rehearsal that is mass destruction, therefore would NOT be agreed to by ANY member of the WHO. Get a grip, you people you have lost your marbles. There was a crime but your motive is pathetic. This is just CIA distraction pointing away from themselves and their own psyops.
It also hides the fact that the Russians have AGAIN out maneuvered the CIA by coming up with a fake vaccine for the CIA’S fake virus. It is a masterstroke by a KGB pro. Challenge its effectiveness if you dare Mr Trump.
You’ve gone totally insane, jack(jim). You’re taking on new aliases by the second.
You getting paranoid?
Who do you think the CIA takes its marching orders from? Hint: the same class of elites the UN and its “Humanitarian” Agencies take their marching orders from.
Do you have any idea what the UN is ? clearly not. It is a meeting house of diplomats from almost every country in the world, funded mostly & hosted by the USA.
My dog understands politics better than you.
Kudos to your dog; my dog barely understands simple math! Again, congratulations on your dog for his or her ability to learn by rote what those who dictate to the UN wish to cover their tracks with. That is quite a feat.
Your scenario doesn’t cover what happens when the WHO loses its marbles – not through infectious madness, but through money.
Do you know what the WHO is?
it is not a church it is not a car it is not a house go and look it up you idiot.
Wait a minute now: the WHO is not a car? You mean all these years I’ve been saving up to buy one – and it’s already been bought up?
Strange reply, which doesn’t seem to have any connection to my comment.
Can’t be helped, I suppose.
You could look at my comment again, assuming that I DO know what the WHO is… Then perhaps your comprehension skills would climb up a step or two…
Church?
Car?
House?
No, sorry. Doesn’t mean anything to me. I think you’re replying to someone else’s comment.
Now here’s a question for you:
Do you know what it takes to get to be an official in the WHO?
And of course Farrar and Wellcome Trust are funded by Gates.
Indeed, Paul. ‘Squares the circle’ perfectly.
Thank you for this brilliantly researched two part article Mr Davies. Not surpisingly, as soon as you start scratching the surface of almost every sphere of life in the anglo-saxon countries (and, it’s fair to say, their vasals) you discover stagering levels of conflicts of interests and corruption. This “cancer” has metastasized at frightening speed in recent decades.
What’s this? Are they hinting at FEMA camps in Kiwilandia? This is totalitarianism wrapped in bureaucratic bullshit . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300081511/coronavirus-government-will-send-all-confirmed-covid19-community-cases-to-quarantine-facilities
Wow that is unbelievable. It looks more like prep for a holocaust #2, who is the lucky victims this time around?
The follow up propaganda (below) is even more bizarre with every person questioned saying they will test even if they must go to ‘prison isolation’.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/122443771/would-you-be-less-likely-to-get-a-test-if-you-had-to-selfisolate-at-a-quarantine-hotel
If you are in 5-Eyes, then you’ve signed up for CIA abuse and you will receive it. The CIA are clearly running experiments on the population of NZ for docility and cowardliness. Oh how they must be laughing at them.
If you are in 5-Eyes, then you’ve signed up for CIA abuse and you will receive it. The CIA are clearly running experiments on the population of NZ for docility and cowardliness. Oh how they must be laughing at them.
You really are a stuck record, jack(jim)
St john ambulance updated how to do CPR
We’ve updated our guidance due to the COVID-19 outbreak. Do not perform rescue breaths on the casualty.
Before you start CPR, use a towel or piece of clothing and lay it over the mouth and nose of the casualty.
Start CPR. Kneel by the casualty and put the heel of your hand on the middle of their chest. Put your other hand on top of the first. Interlock your fingers making sure they don’t touch the ribs.
Keep your arms straight and lean over the casualty. Press down hard, to a depth of about 5-6cm before releasing the pressure, allowing the chest to come back up.
wherever possible, the helper should keep a distance of 2m.
https://www.sja.org.uk/get-advice/first-aid-advice/unresponsive-casualty/how-to-do-cpr-on-an-adult/
https://www.sja.org.uk/globalassets/first-aid-posters/how-to-do-cpr-covid-19.pdf
We – meaning the West – have form when it comes to psyops. So here is a reminder of one from not so long ago . . .
https://thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com/2020/07/31/the-ceaseless-lies-of-eva-bartlett-or-the-partisan-scrubbing-of-western-consciousness/
G’day Reg. Have you read anything on the Port Arthur massacre? IMO, the great psyop that started it all with regard to shootings etc. There is a great detailed book by Keith Allan Noble. If not:
Superb video, Shin. Now it makes sense to me what the German health minister said a couple of months ago. He said “in a few months we will have to ask the people’s forgiveness”. He knows what’s going on. There has to be hell unleashed on these people.
”. There has to be hell unleashed on these people.”
They were advised by your far-right mates in the deep state, so they can’t really be blamed, they were misled.
Excuse me, moron?
Weird, I thought I was responding to the video of the Indian lady going through the NWO health agenda documents. But now I see the Keith Allan Noble video.
Thanks for watching it Reg. Its a stain on the Aussie populace. What we see today, the attitudes, is a reflection of that. It’s not even about giving in, they just except. Very sad!
Also, YooToob has disabled the likes/dislikes counter on this video. Seeing as they are in full 1984 mode I don’t know how long it will be before this clip is marked as “disinformation”.
Just finished the Keith Allen Noble interview. Yes, the template is the same in all these psyops. A deadly incident, the patsy, legislation ready to go, etc. What a nightmare world we are in.
I don’t expect this to stay on yt for long.
—
Vernon Coleman
How Many Billion Could the Covid-19 Vaccine Kill or Damage?
Aug 12, 2020
https://www.vernoncoleman.com/
International best-selling author, Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, explains how governments and vaccine companies are planning to inject us all with Covid-19 vaccines which could change our genes. We will become genetically modified beings. And even the World Health Organization has admitted that no one knows what will happen. Leading scientists want this evil experiment banned but time is running out. And finally, Dr Coleman explains who you can sue if things go wrong (drug companies have been given immunity).
This is exactly the sort of man who ought to be Chief of the WHO.
But unfortunately he’s not an easily-bribed psychopath, so that’s out.
‘It’s just a mask’ has rapidly morphed into ‘it’s just a quarantine camp’.
In a country with 4 ‘cases’ in the last 100 days, a sniffle or maybe no sniffle at all is enough reason to be incarcerated. Or perhaps criticism of the New Zealand government counts as a sniffle too.
“Mandatory quarantine will apply to both new cases and, if necessary, close family members who might be at risk.” …with forced removal from your home if you do not comply”
Who’s leaned on New Zealand?
https://twitter.com/_reddpill/status/1293786621477654528?s=20
New Zealand is a Five Eyes partner, eh. The God damned CIA deployed the bioweapon SARS-2-nCoV-19 in order to undermine China’s rise to macroeconomic powerhouse.
All Intelligence organizations linked to Five Eyes plus One are compromised.
As the Western Intelligence Guru of all time I, for one, know that the CIA manufactured and deployed the bioweapon SARS-2-nCoV-19 in Wuhan China at the end of the Wuhan Military Games.
MOU
Next, we’ll have, “It was just 88% of the world’s population…”
Don’t forget: New Zealand has already been claimed by the world’s elite, who are building their impregnable bunkers deep underground. They wouldn’t want some careless sheep herder to stumble upon their carefully concealed entrances.
I revel at the irony of building bunkers next to Lake Taupo, one of the world’s supervolcanoes.
Just locking up others over their views is peanuts for some Muslims: death by lynching in the street is their preferred mode. Day before yesterday in Bangalore: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/at-least-three-killed-in-police-firing-as-riots-break-out-over-fb-post-in-bengaluru/article32331790.ece
A rather fatuous attempt to crowbar your obsession into this thread. But then when you see a Muslim name your brain explodes in a quivering mess, right?
Just as well there are very few Muslim oligarchs, otherwise we would have his mess all over us, with the help of the usual suspects..
Killing thousands of people at a time in false flag antics is the forte of our Zionist friends.
Head choppers led by Mossad agent Moshe Shlomo.
Thank you. Shocking, insightful and revolutionary.
Great work, Iain.
Oates is the clue to this. Most of the other board members are NATO-U.S corporate fronts.
Oates is the nexus of some companies you may have heard of: Strategic Communications Laboratories SCL, Cambridge Analytica, Auspex International, Bell Pottinger – and they work with organizations like the Behavioral Dynamics Institute of Leeds University.
In fact, SCL has been modeling mass health emergencies for well over a decade. Its work on real and fake public emergencies was revealed by Slate magazine in 2005.
The Covid Event closely follows plans disclosed 15 years ago by Strategic Communications Laboratories SCL which nominally closed down after the Cambridge Analytica scandal. This was their model for public manipulation:
You Can’t Handle the Truth — Psy-ops propaganda goes mainstream, by Sharon Weinberger, Sep 2005. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/09/psy-ops-propaganda-goes-mainstream.html
The techniques include manipulating people to demand the new restrictions rather than simply imposing new laws.
Now Lord, Jonny Oates, the architect of the above sits on the board of the CCDH. He was a director of Bell Pottinger, a PR firm founded by Margaret Thatcher’s favourite PR man, Tim Bell, who was instrumental in her election victories.
Bell Pottinger took its expertise abroad, selling its skills in election manipulation to the highest bidder. The same circle of people ran Cambridge Analytica and both companies were caught stocking racial tensions in South Africa, after which Bell Pottinger closed and set up with a new name, Auspex International.
Cambridge Analytica’s Mark Turnbull “told an undercover reporter in a Channel 4 documentary that “we’re not in the business of entrapment, so we wouldn’t . . . send a pretty girl out to seduce a politician”. But in the same report, he was filmed next to Alexander Nix, Cambridge Analytica’s former chief executive, saying that the company could help clients to smear opponents by offering bribes and attractive women.”
FT: Ex-Cambridge Analytica staff launch venture using same techniques, Jul 2018
https://www.ft.com/content/d92164fe-8514-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929
Quartz: The dark arts of international lobbyists and spin doctors are infecting Africa’s politics, by Lynsey Chutel, Sep 2017 https://qz.com/africa/1089911/bell-pottinger-and-cambridge-analyticas-work-in-south-africa-kenya-is-raising-questions/
Cambridge Analytica first came to prominence helping the Obama victory, before Analytica’s data mining of Facebook erupted in scandal in 2018.
As of March 2018, the company had four directors: Roger Michael Gabb, Alexander Nix, Nigel John Oakes and Julian David Wheatland. SCL’s key associates include Mark Broughton and the Behavioral Dynamics Institute, a virtual lab led by Professor Phil Taylor of Leeds University.
UK Government has embraced SCL-Cambridge Analytica and, for all the fake outrag, has put their techniques at the heart of state policy.
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The takeaway from the article is how centralized, how few people it takes to sway public opinion.
Big Society Trust > Big Society Capital > Access > Connect Fund
BS Trust = the BBC, the Crown Estate, UK Government Investments (nationalized bank holdings) and HM Treasury.
BS Capital brings in the Bankers — in indication of who is in the driving seat.
Access brings in National Lottery Community Fund and Cabinet Office (which in turn controls Joint Biosecurity Centre (the UK’s Department of Homeland Security), National Security Council (equivalent of the U.S. DNI) and the three main agencies: GCHQ, Mi5, Mi6. Together they control the narrative, especially for politicians within the bubble who will take decisions based on a filtered reality.
So you have the Bankers, drawing funding from the National Lottery, working in tandem with State Security which will approve the narrative. All this sits above and influences the Center For Countering Digital Hate. As Iain puts it:
This video by Polly from December 2019 closely foreshadowed Event Covid: Psy Ops Goes Mainstream https://youtu.be/oMVvjzTMjMI
awesome
There is no apostrophe in NGOs, as can be readily seen when written in full: non-governmental organisations. I point this out because it is a shame to mar such an excellent article by the repeated punctuation error.
Well, whats one apostrophe when you take in this content? An excellently written article which would have taken ages to put together. Credit to the author and perhaps a wake up call even to some who previously considered themselves enlightened.
I wonder, back in the old days of libel you would get named people suing if the facts were wrong or even when they were right. I bet you won’t hear a peep out of this lot.
One thing particularly I liked was the commentary which went with the facts. We need to call out criminals and evil for what it is. Just because criminals have a nice title, fancy suit or can dance stylishly doesn’t cut it for me. So, a superb article all round.
Indeed, an excellent article. But, as a matter of principle, this shouldn’t be an either-or scenario. An excellently written article can also have excellent punctuation, and it should.
I do realize that there is such a thing as “received English”, but that is slowly becoming an excuse for sloppiness and downright wrongness.
The misuse of the apostrophe began several decades ago, when schools began to adopt the similarly sloppy policy of saying that the main thing was that we should understand what a student was writing.
Now, as we even see (though rarely) in our comments here, there are some who are quite happy to write long, totally-unpunctuated paragraphs, with back-street slang, not all of which is universally understood. However, to be able to take what they say seriously, one is sometimes forced to resort to the Urban Dictionary, and this tendency is definitely getting worse with time.
I don’t really take any of this personally, but I have to wonder how the potentially great writers of the future will have a chance to shine, when their works are full of what we now know to be mistakes, but which they will find perfectly acceptable.
There are some great parodies on Shakespeare, for example, which humorously demonstrate what a catastrophe his wonderful works would have become if they had been restricted to the English most common today.
Of course the whole point is that the above is an excellent article, and certainly we all make mistakes, but nobody should be actively encouraging mistakes, especially since the correct use of the apostrophe is not normally a complicated matter, even if there are exceptions… A misused apostrophe is a flaw, especially if repeated. Typos are different.
My comment on this is far too long, so I will shut up now.
When I was at school starting a sentence with “but” was frowned upon. 🙂
”Contrary to what your high school English teacher told you, there’s no reason not to begin a sentence with but or and; in fact, these words often make a sentence more forceful and graceful. They are almost always better than beginning with however or additionally.’’👍( 2020)
http://www.thewriter.com/what-we-think/style-guide/and-and-but-why-its-okay-to-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction/#:~:text='Contrary%20to%20what%20your%20high,beginning%20with%20however%20or%20additionally.
Quite right too. 🙂
https://youtu.be/tTv5ckMe_2M
pedantic
cheap shot
Some people just can’t seem to master the correct use of apostrophe’s.
😀
I’m a hogyn gwirion, Judy…a hogyn gwirion iawn… ;o)
Hongian ar eich synnwyr digrifwch, Gwyn!! Credaf y bydd ei angen arnoch!
😉
Diolch, Judy. A chdi, hefyd. Dal i fynd, dal i gredu! (A dal i chwerthin…).
:o)
Regarding Covid-19, has any of Koch’s 4 Postulates been proven? Any info would be much appreciated, Cheers.
virus are dead matter debris
banker poppy cock
bechamp is all the terrain you need
a rich soil a goodly god given infinite landscape.
why waste your time searching through the satanic detritus of masons freaks khazar pirates and liars
the germ theory
the truth behind the banker lie
pasteur boiling in the pits of hell
his death bed recant to little to late
Germ theory is just that a theory.
But established theories stay as the best guess, until they are disproved. Germ theory makes as much sense as ‘relativity’ or ‘quantum theory’ at present.
This may help:
https://nofakenews.net/
Fab articles. Full of info and insight – if a little long. I’m sure I have read shorter books..
I find myself skimming through the last third or so, but that’s just me. Please keep them coming tho’ and thanks to OffG for bringing these great writers to our attention.
Nice to see the BBC doing its bit to support CCDH. If you dig deep enough you will probably find that Bill Gates is also doing his bit. After all Bill throws money at the BBC and Guardian, so why not CCDH?
The WHO belongs to Gates too, and they are doing as much as possible to get HCQ banned. HCQ beats covid19 very cheaply, and makes vaccination unnecessary.
As to the last part, rubbish.
What the hell’s ”digital hate”, anyway? Hatred of fingers? Hatred by fingers? With? Has hatred even got fingers?
This coronavirus malarkey is certainly throwing up some unexpected questions.
I think the main point is that all considerations are reduced to a simple binary: unquestioningly accept established authority,
or,
be classed as a ”hater”.
Personally, I am now so filled with hate that I only have to look at house plants and they whither to dust before my eyes, I only need touch the milk bottle and the milk sours to some putrid bile, and if I so much as talk to anyone about anything beyond the state of the weather or the growth of their runner beans this year and their face errupts in puss spewing boils.
I can’t help it, it would seem. It’s out of control hatred. I am a hate filled hate monster, over-geared and revved up on pure high octane hatred of everything and everyone, all because I I don’t believe what Radio 4 tell me to believe.
Zeros and Ones : the future.
The only reason I was able to emerge unscathed from the hateful experience of reading your hate-filled reply is that I’m surrounded by my own impregnable force field of hatred.
For I, too, am an out-of-control, hate-filled hate monster, fuelled by nothing but pure, uncut, high-octane hatred.
Hahaha😂😂😂
United in hatred !
Let’s give them all ‘the finger’.
Yes! Let us vigorously finger them with our digits of hatred.
“HATE RULES” fits nicely on our finger-ends, if you allow for the space. So they can see the very text as they contemplate their last unfingered moments…
Last unfingered moments…sounds like a song title…perhaps it could be sung to the tune of Some Enchanted Evening…
Just swap a few notes around, leave the rhythm exactly as it is, and I think we have a hit there, Gwyn!
Yep! :o)
is that as well as being a biohazard?
Governments who want to wage war against other nations is certainly ‘hate’. But their hate doesn’t count.
No, that’s perfectly acceptable (apparently). Just as it’s other nations that are corrupt, not ours, even though the City of London’s the most corrupt place on the planet.
Lack and self-conflicted fear activate self-protective recoil from relationship, communication and recognition of shared worth.
This is a state of disintegrity in search of narrative protection.
The masking over of self-conflict is also the masking of its self-protective agenda under narrative identity that operates as mind-capyure of mind control, as distinct from integrated heart and mind.
Thus such a use of the mind effects a mask of concern or protection to elicit sympathies and deter antipathies of challenge that would exposes a lack of substance and the underlying conflict of self-lack seeking power and protection in regaining or reinforcing ‘control’ or ‘face’ at expense of anyone and anything else. And in lockstep with others who join in reinforcement of the means to distance, separate, judge, distort, limit and deny communication feared as contagion, or truth feared as destructive – or too dangerous to truth others to know. Which is part of anything deemed too fearful or disturbing to face in themselves or indeed ourselves.
While this is a form of psycho-pathy or cognitive dissonance, the use of scientific or psychological terms as diagnostic terms easily becomes its own pejorative justification for a like reaction of assumed moral superiority.
I reflect here that I have become aware of innumerable toxic and conflicted situations in human society that are for the most part masked over and disregarded – not least as a result of diversion to what I see as cover stories. These operate in the mind of many as fear and guilt-driven narratives of manipulative intent masked in moral authority that weaponises or leverages fear in order to persist in loveless, deceitful and toxic activities that generate false profits and establish false premises as the basis of communication and exchange. So much so as to constitute a death grip, that will not release an illusion of the face of control for a real and present relationship.
As I see it, I have responsibility for my own choices – regardless the guilting or threatening assertions of others that arise from their current choices – which are not recognised as choice but run a tyrannical dictate under fear’s necessity – for lack of light in which to see and love in which to feel and know.
So to maintain my own integrity of a heart and mind as one – and as a presence of willingness FOR communication rather than a locked down mask of armoured intent, it is my responsibility to NOT react in the same pattern that I have sketched out as self-lack, self-conflict, fear and guilt seeking cover, as narrative assertions posing as and imposed on truth.
In this wise, I have to look at my own part, and accept a self-educative and reintegrative process of communication within my self or my life that automatically extends or shares to others – but for the most part unselfconsciously – as witness to who I am within what is.
Others have to be free to make their own choices, and I am free to reflect those choices as the freedom of a choice that can be changed, but I am not free to make them listen of force them to accept anything they are unready and unwilling to know.
Release and be released is as fundamental a truth as can be, but this is only available as a choice where we recognise our own grip on life as a face or mask of control, grievance, and damnation of self and other. That we direct this away from some sense of self onto the ‘othered’ is witness to love’s protection, but split into denial and attack as the premise from which we then meet, adapt and respond to our world.
A ‘special love’ of mutually reinforced ‘virtue’ set against selected ‘evils’ or hates held in common masks over the hate and fear below as a way of making such a life tolerable or bearable.
The Disclosure of the Mask is the disclosure of an alien will – taken as our own – with all the power given to a guilted and gated fear. Psychotic reactions are part of the ‘territory’ of revisiting and releasing deep fears that can be regarded as ‘Separation trauma’.
Living through what we feel and fear without choosing to reinvest and reinforce or restate denial, IS its process of release. The willingness to stay open in faith of life beyond the appearances and experience of an insanity or self-contradictory self and world, is a transformative education and rehabilitation from a dissociative defence, to a participance in felt presence that witnesses glimpses of a Sanity or Wholeness that the mind of control cannot conceive of or see, but which we can recognise and accept and freely align in.
Faith given to fear and guilting manipulations ‘knows not what it does’. The appeal of Unconsciousness or ‘death in life’ as a source of a special sense of self, is a deeply set habit or subconsciously acquired ‘choice’, running blind as a self-reinforcing loop.
But our freedom and capacity to block awareness of truth is our freedom to choose to accept it, as distinct from a determined mechanism. Imagination is creative, but a conflicted and lawless imagination locks down in its own death-mask under its own convictions.
If minding could not change, it would not Be a mind so much as a mechanism.
Can we become trapped or locked into our own thinking – running as unquestionable facts or conditions? Invested identity requires that full communication be put on hold in order to unfold the experience being asked for – to which we have given meaning and are reaping the measure of.
So that meanings can be flagged to reality that are evasions or reversals of true relation, is a witness to our human function of giving or extending meaning – but applied from false premises.The attempt to protect false or conflicted ‘meanings’ with further layers of protection only reinforces the mindset of a deep state under cover.
Whatever we accept as our self, becomes the basis of the world we perceive and respond to. The idea that collective or lockstepped mind is powerful is of a recognition that sharing is power. But keeping separate so as to join in common purpose set AGAINST fears and hates – gives all power TO them – while joining in a masquerade of a crusade against them.
A truly Common Purpose is uncovered in free relational association that reveals a true commonality of human being as shared worth, instead of a dissociative human doing of the attempt to possess and control it. We get in our own way.
Excellently researched article. Another one to print and file away for the days after the global fascists take down this site and a free internet.
The MSM used to investigate politics, wealth and power and reveal its corruption to the plebs. But wealth and power bought the MSM, so now they hide inconvenient truth from plebs.
Henchmen were used by the Nazis to impose tyranny.
There is a long list of those who fought and died to free the world of that tyranny.
Their monuments are the reminders of that conflict. We need to remember them every day of our lives.
From their sacrifice, hope can live on.
I’ll add communist henchmen and tyrants to your list. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other friendly dictators ordered the killing of an estimated 120m of their own defenceless citizens during the C20th. Xi Jinpeng and Kim Jong Un continue this glorious tradition today, especially Xi with his 1.5m Muslims and Tibetans in concentration camps. Those who wear communist apparel and insignia while seeking to ‘bash the fash’ could never wear swastikas, but the hammer and sickle represents a tyranny of horror and fear worse than Hitler’s Germany. What’s more, communism remains undefeated. If you fear the swastika but not the hammer and sickle, you are brainwashed.
The Red Army was instrumental in defeating Nazism. It liberated Auschwitz. Even Churchill acknowledged their sacrifice. 26 million Soviets died fighting Nazism.
And if you post this sort of all-inclusive rubbish, including a moronic slur against communism – of which you probably know exactly zilch, you are just another establishment stooge. Try reading Marx to find out what communism is actually about, rather than ingesting and regurgitating sludge from CNN or Voice of America.
Presumably you are also (and I presume that you are a Yank) blind to the genocide of native Americans, the murderous and racist aspects of slavery, and the continued murderous activities of the US army in Syria and Iraq, of the CIA in Venezuela and Ukraine, and the equally murderous sanctions against civilians in Syria and Iran and previously in Iraq. (If you are not a US citizen then you are probably posting from one of the 5 Eyes’ who are equally culpable).
I fear for freedom and liberty.
Not the oppressors of whatever persuasions.
The resistance to those who are concerned by the recent events are labelled “ conspiracy theorists, lunatics,
anti vaccine terrorists, etc”
I was just giving the oppressors a justifiable label of their own.
One which many in this country can identify with.
We remember those who fought tyranny
and have memorials in their honour.
What, I feel, is often overlooked, is what they believed they were fighting against.
Which has now become the fight again.
That is my only agenda.
A really excellent article by Iain Davis! Thank you!
And this huge interwoven web of government and NGO institutions covers all western countries. This to ensure complete control – including total censorship and punishment – or at least advocacy for punishment – of any opposition. Also, for example, German language media (like government media and mainstream media) are exactly as totalitarian streamlined as is the English language media. There is no difference between “The Guardian” and the “Spiegel”, “Zeit”. “Welt” and the private and government TV-stations.
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But lets take a broader look now:
I always wondered why they hate Donald Trump so much. I mean, Trump gave tax relieve to the big corporations. He did cut social contribution to the workless and poor. He continued the existing wars and even started new aggressions against Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Iran and China.
So the “globalist class” (expression from Iain Davis) should love him and support him. Instead if you look at the news every new day, every second article is either pushing the Covid-panic or … pouring out hate against Trump. Yes, “hate”, that is never censored.
This seems to show, for some reason that I don’t understand, that Trump isn’t accepted by the “globalist class”.
Now, at this moment, don’t lets brood over that question, let’s just take is as a fact.
And now (to my great surprise!) it is exactly British Intelligence, which has organised this “Russia gate” thing.
To this read this remarkable article “THE SPIES WHO HIJACKED AMERICA” https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-spies-who-hijacked-america
But before that please watch this interview-video:
“CAMBRIDGE FOUR, KILL SHOT AGAINST MICHAEL FLYNN & TARGETING CARTER PAGE”
https://youtu.be/QjO8z-E624k
Maybe you remember ‘drain the swamp’, Trump’s famous pledge to voters that he would clean up corrupt DC and US politics? I’m hoping many here are readier to take him at his word, now that globalist ambition and tyranny is so much more visible during the plandemic. Also, many people say they hate politicians and ‘the system’ with a passion, but then hate Trump the businessman and anti-politician more than they hate murdering dictators. They fail to realise that Trump was elected by the working Americans who also hate and oppose corrupt corporate politics and its stranglehold over a functioning democracy. When leftists spit at Trumpers, they attack ordinary people who are also being screwed over by the globalist elites, and who also seek power to the people. When leftists slander and fight a president who was never a politician and who is greatly feared and hated by politicians, the MSM, the corporates and professional classes, they are helping to sustain the system and dividing the opposition to it. What perfect tools.
Don’t you get it? Trump is actually part of the swamp. The US choice now is between Biden, who is a senile right-wing shill and puppet, and Trump, who is a senile right-wing lunatic. There is no (or at least very few) ‘left-wing’ in the US, not as is generally understood in the rest of the world. ‘Left-wing’ in the US means some kind of wishy-washy liberal, who wouldn’t know Carl Marx from Groucho. You people are in an infantile political state. Until you get some real leftist input this will continue to be the case.
And in any case it won’t stop the demise of the US empire – China will win.
So not one person there with a STEM degree amongst them.
All of them bullshitting Arts Graduates who joined the oily world of PR, political posturing, working for money interests and all of them totalitarian extremists who are so lacking in confidence about the validity of their beliefs that they have to lock others up if they disagree or bomb them into smithereens if they pursue an independent nation-state political path.
It is truly a crime of hate to say that a totally unqualified arts graduate knows more about the reality of scientific research, its uncertainties, propensities to misinterpret, overinterpret, the conflicts of interest which can arise, than those who worked directly in the field for a decade and more, maybe still work in the field but disagree with the concensus for excellent non-financial reasons.
The hatred is of the concept of pursuing the truth, no matter where it may lead us.
The history of science is littered with examples of a self-satisfied and smug Establishment being torn asunder by some maverick upstart who demolished their half-truths, lies and authoritarian apartheid systems using two things: experimental data and rigorous argument.
Galileo Galilei did it. Albert Einstein did it. The identifier of bacterial roles in ulcers did it. To name but three.
I refuse to submit to the dictates of an uneducated Asian fascist called Imran Ahmed.
I did spend a decade immersed in the cutting edge literature of molecular biology, cancer research and gene therapy. I did see hugely unexpected results come out about HPV presence in prepubertal children (at a time when HPV spread was deemed to be through sexual activity).
I have seen and read the two totally different presentations of climate science by the IPCC and the NIPCC. I doubt very much that Imran Ahmed has. He is unfit to speak in any way about climate science issues if he has not read every single NIPCC report cover to cover and shown that he understands at a deep enough level the issues involved in current climate controversies. If he says ‘97% of climate scientists say so, so it must be true’ he is the one who is hateful, since that statement has been proven to be utterly untruthful.
I am more than capable of understanding every angle associated with vaccinations, drugs in general. I may not know absolutely everything about every subject, but there is nothing I cannot get up to speed on given a few hours unfettered access to the relevant literature, patent filings etc etc. I remain 100% confident that Imran Ahmed cannot say likewise.
This board of self-serving shysters has no track record in scientific research nor in drug/vaccine development. Not one of them.
All they have is experience in mind control shenanigans.
Nothing else.
I wonder which bent judges they would need to appoint in a court of law to convince them that their word was superior to that of an honest research scientist at odds with current Weltanschauungs?
Top post, Rhys
Spot on Rhys.
Like you I’m from a science background originally so although I may not know everything about everything (who does?!) with a bit of time I can gain what I hope is a conclusion based on data and facts rather than opinion and emotion.
I rather think that puts the likes of us at the upper end of the Dunning Kruger effect (knowers who know we don’t know everything and thus maybe underestimating what we do know, rather than unknowers who don’t know that they don’t know everything and thus overestimate what they do know).
DavidC
On the contrary, from the sound of you all, above, you would seem to actually exemplify the Dunning-Kruger effect. If you believe that there is a widespread conspiracy which has “experience in mind control shenanigans” you are idiots who are buying into the myth that the establishment and oligarchs are all-powerful master strategists who can control everything. This is bullshit of the most pathetic kind. If you start off by believing that these sort of creeps have the upper hand and are manipulating everyone, then you have lost even before you start. Idiocy.
Err, Jams, do you know what the Dunning Kruger effect is?
I certainly never said ANYTHING in my comments about believing there is a widespread conspiracy which has ‘experience in mind control shenanigans’. Neither did Rhys. He was talking about the CCHD. I would argue, from the article itself, that he might very well be correct about this company – that certainly doesn’t imply a widespread conspiracy and he didn’t say that.
There’s nothing in Rhys’s post that suggests he’s an idiot – far from it in fact.
For some reason, and coming back to the Dunning Kruger effect, ‘QED’ comes to mind.
Hmm. Well, the one thing you have proved is that you can’t read properly. The ‘shenanigans’ bit I quoted was not in your post, but in the post above yours, as you (surely) must have noticed. The fact that Rhys suggested that there are “mind control shenanigans” anywhere, suggests that he IS an idiot, as are you for your agreement with him.
So I think the claim of D-K effect in both your cases is pretty secure.
Jams, your comments were posted directly under mine and you wrote “from the sound of you all”, which implied, to me anyway, that your comments referred to us both, hence my refutation.
If you really think that there are NO ‘mind control shenanigans’ ANYWHERE, I think you have a rather naive view of the world. Either that or you are trolling.
I repeat my original question, do you know what the Dunning Kruger effect is? Do you understand if I use the term lemon juice robber (which, incidentally, I am NOT applying to you, but just as a reference to the Dunning Kruger effect)?
Either way, you can write what you want to from this point, I won’t be honouring you with any reply to any more of youir comments.
Your first paragraph is an exercise in confusion. The rest, as George Lichtheim famously said, is “an exercise in juvenile impertinence”.
You have made it very obvious to everyone that you haven’t really been paying attention, to anything.
The american deep state didn’t spend billions on mind control research for no reason. Even Gordon Brown warned us of the ‘shadow gov’t’. He was of course probably trying to make amends for flogging off Britain’s gold at bargain prices in order to save banking establishments and oligarchs around the world from going bankrupt.
All these things, and more, at one time were deemed conspiracy. Today they are known as facts. To dispel ‘widespread conspiracy’ as fantasy is to put on the blinkers and be led by others.
Do you know what the UN has in store for humanity via their 2030 plans? These plans are based on the same modelling techniques used for MMGW and the COVID. Neither of which truly exist.
Nasa have been called out in recent times over altering and manipulating their data, which has been on record for decades, so it fits the new UN models. Why would nasa do that?
Unfortunately, widespread conspiracy does exist.
👨🏽Nonsense. The very biggest (bigly, even), weapon that capitalism has is propaganda. If there is one conspiracy theory I might give credence to, it’s one where the so called ‘secret services’ are spreading the idea that the ‘deep state’ or the ‘establishment’ or however you want to designate them, are organised, powerful and all-seeing – it’s the scenario that Orwell described as “Big Brother”
In reality they are no so organised – EU capitalists and billionaires may well have competing interests or different goals from US ones, etc. etc. Furthermore, they are just people – they screw up just the same as everyone else, and the more authoritarian and right-wing you are, the more rigid and likely to screw up you also are.
If US capitalism (because that is what the ‘deep state’ actually is), is so far seeing, they would actually be spending money on the US infrastructure in order to keep the population of their main fiefdom reasonably happy and quiet. Right now the US is literally crumbling, and the conditions for internal trade and even internal coercion are threatened. Instead their greed compels them to siphon off billions from the war machine game. This can only be a temporary expedient, as if the US falls apart, (and that’s the way it seems to be heading), there will be no more money going into that pot.
Similarly, the US’s insane attempt to defeat China’s rise is doomed for disappointment – a wiser course would be to reach an accommodation and share the spoils. But they are too divided and stupid and greedy to do that. Similarly they would be unable to hatch a plot like the Covid one which everyone on this site seems to swallow whole. At best they might be opportunistically exploiting it as ideas occur to them, but really, “to make the population more docile by making them wear masks” – this is the sort of idiocy over which I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry!
Jams, consumerism itself is predicated upon psychologically manipulating people into believing that they need things which they actually don’t need, in order to fit in with an invented and constantly changing lifestyle sold to them as fashion, which we are told we need to keep up with in order to fit in. What is that if it isn’t mind control? I think you under estimate the deep understanding of human psychology employed by the people at the top of the money tree in order to maintain that particular status quo. I use this as an example, but the same principle can be applied to other aspects of the money machine.
Look beyond left and right, the only division worth looking at is that between the ultra rich and the rest of us. We are all part of their money machine, ultimately. We are all one.
I think we are on the same page, Elvis. But I hope you see the significance of a Marxist analysis of the system – although I don’t think you have to be a “believer” in Marxism to appreciate it.
I certainly do see the significance of it as it is a part of what got me to my current position in terms of how I think. I’m certain that “left” and “right” don’t really have much meaning any more though and only serve to act as another false division to create the illusion of separation of us from the truth that is the completely interconnected whole that we are all a part of.
I don’t think it serves as a ‘false division’. I’m not joined at the hip to Marxism, but a movement gains greatly in cohesiveness by having an overall theory of some kind. Most people find difficulty in seeing that we are interconnected, as you say, and theory gives an immediate point to grasp and promote unity of purpose.
A very detailed description of people who I believe are called henchmen.
Well done Iain Davis thank you
The panic is raising – the groan is making up lies that Russia is going to be issuing vaccines in a forthnight, in the headline of their Live article – but no link to any corresponding story.
The Tory front spivs are going to worry that their zillion quid scams are going off track faster than expected.
Even having the Oxford University Name in their dodgy monkey virus based vaccine can’t sell it.
Apparently the dual vaccine aimed at raising immunity is going to be trialled on 2,000 people across multiple countries in a proper fashion and ONLY then would be able to be rolled out generally- if safe and efficacious.
A side effect of this particular vaccine type may well see the end of BiG Pharma’s cash stream for flus and colds generally! In what may be called a strategic response by Russians.
The game ends as soon as the EU recognises and approves its use never mind the WHO.
But carry on with the Strawman building and knocking as the planned obsolescence moves towards its denouement.
But who should we attack or resist to escape creeping totalitarianism? Do you trust anyone in this fight?
But who should we attack or resist to escape creeping totalitarianism?
Anyone who tells you what to do. It’s the tyranny of the imperative.
Yup – the rule of Law equally applied in open court by independent judges with full transparency.
The nearest things to that being the ECHR, ECJ and not many others.
On the Cadbury chocolate teapot connection, I remembered that Positive Money (who have been labelled an ‘astro turf campaign to usher in digital central bank currency’ by Richard Werner) were majorly funded by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation – i.e. another Quakerly money pot paying out for ‘progressive change’.
It has been mentioned on these board before that the new monetary paradigm is basically cashless direct financing of government by central bank money creation : a kind of bastardised Positive Money ‘solution’.
Willy Wonker’s golden ticket.
An excellent and thorough expose of multiple actors and agencies unknown to most. Lifting the stone and seeing the malevolent lifeforms hidden under it is a depressing experience.
Most discouraging of all is the total lack of integrity from the journalist and supposed professional classes, medical and political, in reporting or publicly questioning the covid “evidence”.
When/how did the ends justifying the means become the main operating procedure.
Perhaps with Lenin’s capture of the Russian state. His intolerance and brutal violence against all opponents were legendary, like his famous aphorism: “by any means necessary”.
What a stupid reply! The ‘end justifying the means’ has been an operating principle probably since the invention of farming and settled communities, Read any history of early civilisations. No need to drag Lenin, who was working under extremely adverse circumstances, into it. PS I am not a ‘Leninist’.
great work Iain, thanks
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According to Chomsky, what we do here is wrong reasoning (talking about 9/11). I just copy pasted Chomsky’s argument and see how it fits in the covid narrative
‘What you [should] do, when you think you’ve discovered something, is write articles in scientific journals, give talks at the professional societies, go to the civil engineering department at M.I.T. or Florida or wherever you are, and present your results. And then proceed to try to convince the national academies, the professional societies of physicists and civil engineers, the departments in the major universities – and convince them that you’ve discovered something.’
Funny thing is, I tried that for Covid19 and my articles (all negative about the seriousness of the disease) are dismissed without review by that same professional society of physicians or not even that (as if the article wasn’t sent to them in the first place).
‘Now there happen to be a lot of people are around who’ve spent an hour on the internet and think they know a lot of physics – but it does not work like that, and it never has.’
Well Covid19 is not rocket science (or maybe it is when you compare it with the science behind moon landings; see David McGowan’s ‘Moondoggie’). For instance if you know that the number of deaths in NL related with flu is 9000 per year while for Covid it is currently 6000 in the year 2020, you know we are not dealing with the new plague here, but with something that is related (maybe even is) seasonal flu.
‘There are reasons why there are graduate schools in these departments.’
I come to believe that these departments are there for having a monopoly about what is ‘scientifically’ true. Becoming an epidemiologist is mainly a costly adventure since you have to pay a lot of expenses for following all kinds of courses (that you don’t need in order to see that 6000 is not more than 9000). You are also unlikely to run the gauntlet if you are not into ‘groupthink’ (or as they call it: ‘professional standards’). For instance saying that 6000 is less than 9000 is something that does not fit in the mind of the groupthink where epidemiologists think and write about Covid19 as if it is the plague for which you need all sorts of (anti) social measure in order to contain it.
‘So the thing to do is pretty straightforward: do what scientists and engineers do when they think they’ve made a discovery.’
You’ll be censored. Pretty sure something similar happened with the 9/11 engineers for truth.
Here is an example of censoring the covid narrative in the lancet: a letter that I wrote more than 2 months ago, about an article that claimed that mouth masks could protect against the Covid and of which I still haven’t received a reply. In the meantime that article is being used by politicians and experts alike that mouth madks protect against Covid19 disease. And this is just one example of how the professional society of physicians censor. I have many more…
The letter I sent to the lancet on 8 June 2020
The lancet meta-analysis (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext) on wearing mouth masks is epidemiologically speaking flawed. First, authors compare countries where face mask wearing was more or less mandatory (like China) vs countries where it was not (like Italy) and then find a lower rate of Covid19 in China than in Italy (Figure 4). Given that there are many variables that can explain such a finding, that is clearly a case of correlation is not causation
Second, the only article mentioned in the meta-analysis that looked at if face mask wearing protects against Covid19 within one country is this one from China
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7134426/ This is about hospital personnel where some hospitals were required to wear face masks compared with those where this was not required at the start of the Covid epidemic in China. In the hospital where they wore face masks none (zero) got covid19, while in the hospital where they didn’t wear face masks n=10 got Covid19. Let’s consider that these results are unbiased and true, then the evidence of wearing face masks comes from a study where 10 people had the outcome of interest. Since the political effects that might be taken from the paper is to impose a measure to wear face masks to billions of people world-wide based, we can surely say that there is absence of evidence here.
The authors also talk a lot of bias, and that their study has no bias because they run a lot of models. However, a funnel plot analysis in the appendix (not discussed in the paper) clearly shows there is no symmetry, i.e., that there is a gap in the right side of the triangle pushing the results towards an effect that face masks protect against Covid19.
As Carl Sagan said ‘extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary evidence’. The authors have not done so and only muddied the waters in as to mouth mask wearing can protect against viral respiratory diseases, a claim that manufacturers of mouth masks do not even dare to make.
Willem, that was a good Letter to the Lancet, it made clear and strong points against an alarmist thesis. As you say there, to compare China with Italy is to compare chalk with cheese. (For instance, China has Low Deathrate with no Lockdown, Italy has Lockdown and high Deathrate; therefore, by the same reasoning, Lockdown must be the cause of Italy’s high deathrate!). Also a powerful caution against drawing conclusions for billions of people from a study of 10 people.
I am surprised the Lancet did not publish it. Another reason to be thankful for OffG.
Yeah. I presume you meant “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” – but this is a fallacy. Extraordinary claims require just the same sort of evidence as anything else – no more, no less. I would certainly class your claims as ‘extra-ordinary’ though. Covid is a very small virus, but it does not travel by itself. It (i.e. many of it) are contained in the droplets of water vapour which we breath out. These are very much larger than each virus. Masks do not stop these water droplets entirely, but they savagely decrease the distance of travel of the cloud of droplets. That is why masks, in combination with a two metre distancing is (relatively) effective. So wearing a face-mask is better for the health of others than not wearing one. But you would rather quote evidence where variables are not controlled in order to spout your prejudices. You are a dangerous clown.
‘ Masks do not stop these water droplets entirely, but they savagely decrease the distance of travel of the cloud of droplets’
That is another extraordinary claim. Can you prove that as in a confirmed large randomized clinical trial (at the least)?
‘ You are a dangerous clown.’
Thanks for showing your feathers and for correcting the quote of Sagan which is of course ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’
<I>Masks do not stop these water droplets entirely, but they savagely decrease the distance of travel of the cloud of droplets</I>
Although your statement is not entirely true You’ve just Inadvertently made argument for not wearing masks by those who have no coughing or sneezing symptoms of any disease as COVID is not more dangerous infectious disease than Flu-like diseases as CDC and WHO officially admits now.
This Policy of “no masks” against SC2 for population at large was official recommendation by WHO and CDC just in March 2020 as was for ALL declared historical pandemics in last decades, based on detailed studies of droplet propagation used in variety of infection models.
Interesting No masks against flu still is official policy of CDC and WHO despite the fact that at lest 60 millions in were infected with influenza In US alone , 250 million cases worldwide.
In fact recent recommendations of face masks for anyone supposedly to limit spread of infection are not based on new studies of SC2 but on curious reinterpretation of all decades old previous studies adopted by WHO that concluded just opposite.
The exploited by media confusion arises among people like yourself as spreading droplets is wrongly equated in media with spreading infection.
It is not the same as dominant factor for efficiency of spreading infection is not random brief, exposure to virus laced droplets themselves but the state of general health including health of immune system combined with prolonged exposure among age or comorbidities vulnerable people, counted in days not minutes or hours of random encounters, locked in closed spaces as extensive Chinese studies of household quarantine unequivocally showed.
The same studies showed virtually no infection of children at all continuously exposed within closed quarantined households wearing masks at home or not as children are wholesale resistant via T cell general immunity and hence no exposure to droplets matters, in fact makes their immunity stronger.
So want to save a child? Expose him and get over it.
Repeated US study of cats infected with the same Coronavirus suggests that no mandatory masks conclusion showing infection only after three days of living in the same small cage with infected cats, and six days with no symptoms before newly infected cats developed immunity and stop spreading virus.
Massive nosocomial infections of SC2 and all other infections diseases among trained in proper usage of PPE including N95 masks, medical staff in all hospitals, proves that only prolonged or continuous exposure of vulnerable, not usage of PPE equipment that ultimately matters. No solid assumptions of effective usage of masks among population at large can be made, rendering them no barrier for spreading infection.
Also, Peddled by media supposed moral argument of social responsibility of limited exposure of virus for good of others is completely epidemiologically and immunologically ignorant and misguided as limiting amount of exposure of low lethality virus like SC2 to young healthy individuals may cause delay in immuno-response making otherwise mild Symptoms of SC2 infection much more severe and recovery much more prolonged.
To really be responsible only vulnerable that must be protected from low lethality viral infections like coronaviruses as even common cold kills among elderly and sick population, but not young and healthy.
Morality of acting stems from knowledge and rational, sober unemotional assessment of reality not from fashionable virtue signaling and do something hysteria people like you to often succumb to because of irrational fear peddled by media.
And how are you going to police mask wearing by those who have symptoms and those who have not – test everyone? And again and again in case they have developed symptoms since the last time? This is just the sort of libertarian ‘you’re limiting my freedom to ensure mass sheep-like compliance’ that makes you look ridiculous (except maybe in the USA).
Those sick should got to doctor and stay home to recuperate without worrying about job or eviction. Sick are last who want to go around to spread disease but that is what capitalist economy force them to do. US is best example of people who cannot afford to get sick so they work sick as for profit system failed miserably.
Why would you want to mask everybody with documented serous health consequences for billions healthy people of wearing masks in public but not hundred times smaller target group of 0.01 to 0.5% who should stay home anyway. (99.5% infected are not In danger to others healthy people and they won’t be sick or hospitalized as UK authorities officially confirm).
Those who cough or sneeze may protect others from some exposure to whatever virus or bacteria or immune calls those droplets carry (as long standing recommendation of WHO and CDC states but not for COVID) but that exposure not always is unwelcome as it ends pandemic concerns of healthy individual people in a matter of 10 days and achieve immunity for those who do not have already inherent immunity or resistance to SC2 infection. In fact just this year vast majorly of those sick for SC1 in 2003 and 2004 were found to still have antibodies that are killing not onky SC1 Virus but SC 2 as well.
The real solution requires completely free heathcare or Universal Healthcare so all old, vulnerable or sick may effectively boost their immune system and general health via medical and social welfare means (ability if healthy mentally and physically living) while oligarchy as well as young and healthy will contribute to it proportionally to their wealth and income. Onky this kind of of approach really saves lives
But that would cost several trillions a year in US yearly for decade and demise of private health insurance and I fact all medicine for profit as healthy people do not go to doctors and do not massively consume drugs, or eat cheap often nutritionless or poisonous food substitutes or living exhausting Precarious socioeconomically unstable lives in decaying communities, abuse chemical stimulants like alcohol . And most of all do not need expensive surgeries conducted with expensive equipment .
That is why we have, instead of bringing people to health a useless in this case band aid of vaccine recklessly developed and pushed into for profit market while real Horrific state of public health is pushed beyond reproach or serous debate.
Would you rather the US government spent “several trillions a year” on universal health care, or several trillions a year on the army, navy and airforce so that they can go around the world threatening people who don’t fit in with the US governments plans?
You’re right – healthy people don’t go to the doctor, but do you have a foolproof method of predicting that, so that we can tell in advance?
The herd-immunity method you quote would result in an unacceptable number of susceptible individuals dying. Are you happy with that? Are you one of those who hope not to be in that category? Do you realise that there is evidence now that even fit people who recover can have quite serious side effects?
Even fit young people who get the flu can have serious side effects, I know, I’m one of them. I have had scarred lungs from a flu infection. Covid 19 is far from unique in this respect. In fact the only thing that seems to be very unique about it is the irrational fear driven response to it.
Yes. Unfortunately many other fit young people think they are immune. They also don’t think about transmitting the infection to others who may be more susceptible.
Should we all start wearing masks during the annual flu season then?
It would probably help. But of course your convenience must come first.
Haha, I couldn’t give a fuck about my convenience, my child’s social development on the other hand, I really do care about.
Maybe you should devote some attention to his physical health too. It’s not beyond the bounds of possibility that some children can be badly affected by the virus.
his or her
It’s vanishingly unlikely that it’ll affect him or me in a negative way personally as it really isn’t very dangerous for us, just as it isn’t for the vast majority of people. It is impossible to remove risk entirely and it’s a question of whether the rewards are worth the risk. In this case, it is a categorical yes from me.
I take very good care of my child’s health and I inform myself with a wide range of statistics, research and statistical analysis rather than by the emotive opinionating that has driven the irrational response to this particular virus. I also possess the ability to critically appraise situations and statistical analysis in order to think for myself and form my own rational opinions and take the path that I perceive to be the one with the best outcomes for us.
Stop making assumptions and presumptions about what other people are or aren’t, you know nothing about me or my personal situation..
Ooops! Sorry. Did I stain your god-like image slightly. Please just send down a bolt of lightning to punish me in accordance with your Supremacy’s exalted status. It’s less than I deserve for such blasphemy.
Can’t formulate a cogent answer so you resort to sarcasm. Weak trolling dude. 3/10. See you.
Another first rate piece by Iain. I am concerned that in the near future this site may be taken down by the hateful “Anti-hate” establishment. I hope there are contingency preparations for this apparent eventuality. The revelations about the WWF are disturbing on a personal level. I’ve regarded it as a benign organization involved in a worthy cause, and have supported it by buying
WWF wall calendars featuring beautiful photos of wildlife, especially wild cats like tigers. I am of Russian ancestry, so am by nature suspicious of people and their motives, but this level of cynicism by the WWF is beyond the pale!
WWF is an evil organisation. I know as i worked for them a long time ago, in london. even then, i became suspicious and resigned after a few years. like all the big charities, they bring in enormous amounts of money with enormous salaries and fringe benefits for senior staff. Sadly, they are supported by well-meaning, compassionate people who have no idea how their donations are misused.
Albert Camus famously said that “the welfare of the people is always the alibi of tyrants”. Today’s tricksters and tyrants can also use our huge compassion for the welfare of animals and nature to extract our cash and control our voting behaviour. But not in cultures which haven’t learnt to also care about non-human life and the environment.
Are you suspicious of the WHO? Its director Dr Tedros is no medical doctor; he is an ex-communist revolutionary and ruling politician in Ethiopia, where he is accused of crimes against humanity (see his Wikipedia page). He is also accused of being Xi’s puppet, and of getting his position only thanks to Chinese pressure at the UN. Trump famously ended US funding of the WHO, which means its single largest funder is now Bill Gates, famous for his interests in and good relations with communist China, and his opposition to the Trump presidency. The WHO has made every effort to discredit and ban the use of HCQ, typically by using fake research smearing HCQ from once reputable journals like the Lancet. This effort, supported by political allies and a pro-China MSM, has meant many many 1000s of unnecessary deaths around the globe, especially in nations following WHO guidelines. Elsewhere, HCQ applied early and correctly has ended pandemic in countries using it on a mass basis and so obviates the case for lockdowns, for absurd restrictions on our freedoms, for masks etc. Crucially, it removes the case for highly profitable but unproven vaccination programs by big pharma and Bill Gates. It also stops the economic devastation of China’s geopolitical enemies and targets caused by covid19. I think posters can draw the necessary conclusions from this web of connections and corruption.
“Xi’s puppet”, “Chinese pressure at the UN”, “. . . famous for his interests in good relations with communist China”, “opposition to the Trump presidency”
From these quotes, I gather that you think:
that ‘communist’ china is “bad”‘
“communism” is bad
“good relations” with “Communist China” are “bad”
“opposition to the Trump presidency” is “bad”.
On that basis I think I can safely say that you are a right-wing, anti-communist, anti-China, probably US citizen.
From that it follows that:
you have no idea about the real situation, history and position of China in the world,
you have no idea about what ‘communism’ actually is about,
you very likely have never actually read anything which explains ‘communism’ properly
you have taken all your ideas about ‘communism’ from the mainstream media,
you think Trump is not just another right-wing shill for the oligarchy,
you probably have very little idea about absolutely anything,
therefore you should shut up until you gain the requisite knowledge to be able to talk about these subjects with some degree of credibility.
You must be really missing college.
Just like you must be really missing your mind.
THIS IS A MUST listen – “RULE BY DECEPTION” – the lady joins the dots extremely well.
NEWSBREAK 81: CONFIRMED: COVID-19 PLANDEMIC A KNOWN, LIVE “TRAINING & SIMULATION EXERCISE” UNDER WHO
Phew, this is a must watch. Very hard to watch this and not know that we are being almightily scammed.
Excellent analysis of the situation based on actual WHO documents. Would be very difficult for someone in the Government to refute what she says and to deny that there is a direct connection between what is happening now and the intentions and time frames clearly written in these documents. Why aren’t the mainstream media questioning this highly unlikely coincidence?
You may be familiar with the UK’s existing influenza contingency plans. The main parent document was published in 2011 and has subsequently undergone various updates. I link to a copy here.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/review-of-the-evidence-base-underpinning-the-uk-influenza-pandemic-preparedness-strategy
What is immediately striking is the title which ties in with the key WHO description of “Preparedness Plan”. The timing of the publication of this UK document is consistent with the UK’s participation in the WHO preparedness activities. Note also that the head of the Wellcome Foundation who is the UK representative on the WHO Global Preparedness Board, Sir Jeremy Farrar, is also on the SAGE Committee. Someone needs to cross-examine him without delay about the Covid19 activities.
We are indisputably pawns and victims in a massive global experiment.
outstanding very important video
lockstep agreements put in place in 2005.
long time ago
long before 5g tech
5g is the grid cooker
Jesus! Not another “5G” lunatic. Please explain, in clear English, how ‘5G’ is going to rot our brains from inside (if that is what you believe) or otherwise, how ‘5G’ is going to do whatever conspiracist thing you imagine it will. Clear logical arguments with evidence, please. Go on, you know you can . . .
who are you o tool
Obviously you are not an English Language graduate. Would you care to re-state your comment in such a way that it can be generally understood?
Whether or not you think that 5G is being used to cook people (I don’t), you must see that mobile communication technology and social media are being used to control how people think and act, or do you think Cambridge Analytica et al are conspiracy theories too?
This technology is certainly used to track the movements of those using it and mobile devices are certainly listening to conversations. There is cast iron evidence to support this.
This is the real danger of things like 5G for me, it’s an upgrading of an already unprecedentedly powerful, publicly funded, privately owned integrated mass surveillance and marketing system. Which might be fine if the people controlling it were completely benevolent but, they most certainly are not. The profit motive is anything but benevolent and war mongers run countries. Follow the money, it leads you up a dark path without having to resort to unknown unknowns to reach conclusions about where we are heading.
Yes, I agree completely with you. It’s the “5G causes Covid, so tear down the masts’ bunch I was disagreeing with.
Links to documents are provided below in this repaired update –
“Overview
The purpose and scope of the International Health Regulations (2005) are “to prevent, protect against, control and provide a public health response to the international spread of disease in ways that are commensurate with and restricted to public health risks, and which avoid unnecessary interference with international traffic and trade”. Because the IHR (2005) are not limited to specific diseases but apply to new and ever- changing public health risks, they are intended to have long-lasting relevance in the international response to the emergence and spread of disease. The IHR (2005) also provide the legal basis for important health documents applicable to international travel and transport and sanitary protections for the users of international airports, ports, and ground crossings.
This third edition contains the text of the IHR (2005), the text of World Health Assembly resolution WHA58.3, the amended version of Annex 7 (concerning period of protection of vaccination against yellow fever, and validity of related certificates) that entered into force on 11 July 2016, the Health Part of the Aircraft General Declaration that entered into force on 15 July 2007, and appendices containing an updated list of States Parties and State Party reservations and other communications in connection with the IHR (2005).”
https://www.who.int/ihr/publications/9789241580496/en/
196 countries WHO all sing in chorus from the same hymn book –
“Strengthening health security by implementing the International Health Regulations (2005)
The International Health Regulations, or IHR (2005), represent an agreement between 196 countries including all WHO Member States to work together for global health security.
Through IHR, countries have agreed to build their capacities to detect, assess and report public health events. WHO plays the coordinating role in IHR and, together with its partners, helps countries to build capacities.
IHR also includes specific measures at ports, airports and ground crossings to limit the spread of health risks to neighboring countries, and to prevent unwarranted travel and trade restrictions so that traffic and trade disruption is kept to a minimum.
WHO’s work in coordinating IHR implementation…………..”
Read on –
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/01-08-2020-statement-on-the-fourth-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-coronavirus-disease-(covid-19)
https://www.who.int/
These fixed agreements discourage and devalue critical thinking in the signatory nations. They allow bureaucracy to ignore reason. Functionaries can just say to critics and sceptics ‘sorry, the rule is we follow WHO advice’. What a fatal rule.
Can anyone tell me why my comment is ‘awaiting approval’ ?
If I have written something that – in the judgement of moderators, contravenes OffGuardian comment policy, then can I even get to know what that is (let alone appeal or discuss it) ?
If I have, but I can’t, then the irony of this should be more than obvious, particularly under this article.
Don’t worry too much as it happens to us all as this is the way. OG have some mysteriously wonderful ways to stay online amid all the scurrilous and devious fact checkers crawling around the net…hang for a while, all will come right for you.
It is part of the new subtle censorship .
Slow down posting – so it does not appear in a timely manner;
Don’t send notification of replies to comments to selected posters – so they can’t respond to the replies;
Remove formatting options from mobile devices and restrict content display.
The upgrade was actually a downgrade aimed at control.
You noticed the irony in the title of this article too?
1) Everyone should now be getting notifications of replies – so if this is a widespread problem we probably need to know (are you sure you have added the right email and selected the correct options?)
2) formatting options are deselected for mobile devices in order to speed up site loading.
3) are you nuts? We are currently being smeared by Propornot, smeared by Newsguard, smeared by Media Factchecker, censored by Google, censored, by Facebook, censored by Twitter, and now named as a source of Russian propaganda by the US State Department – and you think our major concern is how we can ‘control’ what disgruntled people like you say BTL? You think we have staff meetings about how to make sure Dungroanin doesn’t get his notifications and how we can make it extra hard for him to use blockquotes?
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I find it hard to believe that you are being blamed for ‘Russian propaganda’ when most of the btl comments seem to be by members of either the CIA or the latest bunch of Ayn Rand survivalists aka mad conspiracy theorists. In my opinion you have let this site become a hitch-potch of right-wing maniacs, and it is not doing wonders for your credibility. I really only come here for a laugh now.
Long time no see No1,
No I am NOT getting notifications
As you would know by looking at your sent emails.
The bell below the comment is not crossed out.
The email Is the same as always.
Why did they stop to some and not others?
Claiming being smeared by DS goons does not make you innocents.
After all, many of us have read a Man called Thursday and know of many a false flags.
A bit like Spiked and the Revolutionary Communists Party being actually DS and Alt rightists now at the centre of Downing Street.
I await my email responses still!
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Admin – I MUST APOLOGISE.
I have been in touch with GMail this evening to confirm that I was not receiving your emails- but it seems they have been getting JUNKED since mid July.
They had stopped in June.
I didn’t have a junk folder active so could not see them there.
They have no explanation for why they have been automatically junked and are the only emails in that box.
So – I apologise for doubting your assurance that the emails had been reinstated.
I do stand by my other opinions though 😈
You mean off-G are trying to control us too? That’s just a conspiracy theory too far – as are all the rest, of course.
All my best posts have that happen to them. The little tiddlers, the things without meat in them, never get to be ‘waiting for approval’.
IN future, copy and paste your comment before pressing post comment and have it saved in a Word doc. That way, if it does not get through the censor, you have a copy you can use in any future discussions with moderators about what is wrong with it….
Have your posts been up and then removed?
No, they have not – and the only comments by Mr Jaggar we have ever disallowed are ones where he calls for violence to be inflicted on individuals – which is counter to our comment policy as published on the site
There is nothing wrong with suggesting violence against individuals whose actions caused millions to die.
I respect your policy and accept you will remove comments suggesting that, but you should ask yourselves why we had to go to war with hitler….
We went to war with Hitler because the ruling elites saw profit in it. The same reason they carefully funded both him and Stalin to make sure any war between them would run an run. The idea WW2 was a moral crusade is debunked. Our rulers had no problem with the nazis, in fact they employed a lot of them after the war – and quietly supported much of their ideology
Are any genuine comments censored Rhys? Offg prides itself on it’s commitment to free speech.
FFS they even tolerate me here!
I did not say they were censored, I said they ‘were waiting for approval’.
Most waiting for approval are approved….I am not so paranoid I keep detailed records of every posting I make, but I can say that a few genuine ones have been censored, but it would probably represent 1% or less of what I post…
Absolutely outstanding work Iain. These deep dives on the characters and connections are always the most revealing.
I can’t help but look at those portrait photos and see brainwashed individuals who genuinely believe they are ‘doing good’.
But as the saying goes, ‘scratch a liberal.…’
Knowing a few Quakers myself, I was particularly interested in the Cadbury connection. It’s not all drinking chocolate, rambling and peace campaigns you know. I am sure that they will be keen recipients of the upcoming media/ PR blitzkrieg to get us behind the deathvax.
I need to understand Quakers and their banking a bit better. So far I have Liberty Bell and Philadelphia. And Freemasonry.
The latter leads us to HJS and the neocon component.
(Religion again.)
Great writing.
No pharmaceutical corporations want good public health. They need more fear and death in order to profit. That’s why they all hate and try to hide HCQ’s huge success in ending pandemic in so many developing nations, where corporates like Gilead don’t yet control medical bodies and government advisors. HCQ, a wonder drug until this year, is off-patent, extremely safe, and is ending the crisis in all nations using it early and correctly. But no-one can profit from a drug which costs $11 per patient and prevents almost all hospitalisations and accompanying costs, nor can anyone profit financially by promoting its usefulness, not even Trump. But the global population can benefit from having this life-saver fully available for all. No need for dodgy but extremely profitable vaccinations either.
Knock knock, who’s there, a socalist. How do you know its a socialist.? They’re antisocial !
Don’t believe me? scroll down.
Still the one note symphony, Sub-objective?
Awesome. You should consider a career in murder via forced vaccination.
Well this is interesting “Objective”. It’s you who mentioned socialism first. And your purpose was, as always, to goad anyone who dares to stand up for socialism. Socialism – or to be more precise, the desire for socialism was the only thing that made capitalism bearable. Furthermore, socialism has been on the retreat for at least 4 decades now. And we can see the horrendous consequences with the relentless drive to neoliberalism. Socialism is the only defence we have against this encroachment of the vicious profit motive now destroying everything. And yet here you are disparaging socialism always IN ADVANCE i.e. as if to deprive the general population of their only weapon before they even start.
And – the ultimate proof of your malevolence – the topic of socialism was dropped – and yet here you are bringing it up again! When someone called you out as a troll and you responded with “i just like to bring out the socialist in people” you revealed all. You are indeed a troll and I wouldn’t be surprised if you were a paid up one.
Socliasm is the only defence? Why do you socialists make everythng sound like a threat? Soclialism, culturally, is what has led us here. Sheep mentality. Individual think…libertarianism solves all this stuff in a much less gunpointed manner.
I can’t figure out if you are trolls or really that stupid. “culturally” does indicate some awareness of the shoddiness of your “argument” because, you see, the “cultural” is nothing but the frosting on the cake. How about economically or politically?
And “sheep mentality” is your demonisation of the most essential weapon – and indeed the only weapon we have e.g. solidary, mass movements etc. not pathetic infantile “individualist” cock waving.
You are very rude and almost certainly projecting. It’s basic language. What does social mean? If humans are social and come together it is that which the powers that be are playing on with the propoganda “keep people safe, keep others safe, save lives, protect the nhs”. It’s manipulation through peoples desire to “fit in”. Now be off with you, you rude man.
Ooh steady on now!
I don’t think either of us are on here to argue or troll, I was rude myelf back. Chill pill taken. Have a good day 🙂
Fair enough. Peace be upon you!
Not a single rational argument to defend your values just abuse & smears on people (you dont know) who disagree with you.
Today’s indoctrinated ‘left’ (socialist movement) is simply a neo-liberal trojan horse to effect regime change.
But socialism (collectivism) has always failed & brought only suffering to the masses, whilst nefarious masters have reaped the rewards, i don’t know if your obtusness is deliberate or genuine but i fundamentally oppose everything you say.
I’m libterain by nature but i have socialist sympathies, i don’t value materialism or property ownership just my own sovereignty, freedom & truth, Socialism provides neither (nor does neo-liberalism).
Property always ends up owning you, not the other way round.
How interesting that you ignore my comment at “Aug 13, 2020 12:09 PM” below which outlines your own “rationalism”.
Good luck then when you are standing alone and proud in your libertarian sovereignty, facing a charge of heavily armed Neo-military police. And don’t think “I wouldn’t be there in the first place”. They’ll come and get you if you’re not immediately available, unless you join their club to be part of the problem.
WTF are talking about
Not understand kid? One day you will.
Alas trying to explain to a ardent Marxist the concept of freedom is i fear futile. They assume my opposition to their doctrine is malicious without considering what they’ve taken & threaten to take, at my personal cost.
MY FREEDOM. Which is everything & the only thing i own. They blame neo-liberal monsters & boogeymen without acknowledging they facilitate not frustrate the greed & ego of tyrannical technocratic rule!
Its easier for them to flock like sheep & hide behind personal abuse & mob violence than stand true for their individual beliefs, regardless of the evidence in front of them. I read the first part of this article & thought it was divisive shite, but waited for the second to vindicate itself to only read a quarter before it was confirmed as propaganda.
The hypocrisy always amuses me how sites like this complain about propaganda censorship & the cancel culture but what do we find the moment some one stands for their inherent values & principles? The mob attempting to drive out opposing views. You note not once do I make personal comments about them but sadly the only defense to socialism is personal abuse.
So they attempt to drive out any view or opinion that disagrees to create a vacuous echo chamber. Where only those that support their world view are allowed to exist. In short totalitarian deploying the same tactics they complain of, that is the neoliberal/socialist way. They are parasitic, enslaving others for their selfishness yet hypocritically claim the moral high ground.
Yes that is my objective view & i speak & defend only one persons interests my own. Every living thing is subjective. Which brings me full circle i’m a libertarian by nature & name i stand alone proudly defending my values because that is the only honorable way to advocate truth & freedom.
You’re totally right and the timing is brilliant – check out this comment to me made a short while ago. People don’t even understand our language and they think they have answers to problems sufficient to force them on others……And the reason socialists dont see thesemlves for what they are is because its essentially a mental/personality disorder – they constantly project their shadow onto others.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/12/ccdh-the-centre-for-cancel-culture-and-digital-hypocrisy-part-2/#comment-220712
The sad thing is how they’re being played, socalism is a neo-liberal trojan horse & they can’t see how they’re being used, there’s not single critical thought among them.
This article is just fodder to feed the herd, it contains no real revelation. Just personal animosity to labeled players (personal attacks).
The only side i’m on is mine.
I thought the article was decent and well researched but it is true, socialists are told in plain view what they are by their own doctrines – “useful idiots”. Help us control humanity because we are really good, we wont do nothing wrong controlling the others is for their own good. Irony is the trove of leftie downvoters on here would be the first to the gulags in the event of a leftie takeover because the elite know they are dangerous people who want what the elite have – control. the reason for that control is irrelevant – its competition and they dont like it.
This is why so called fascists and so called socialist/communists have to destroy each other, they both want control and know they wont have it whilst another group exists with the same desire. It’s why both will label libertarians as both communists and fascists (or trolls) because in their minds they can no longer even conceive anything other than black and white. This is a flaw in human psychology that effects most of the population and the elite have known this for an awful long time – the more successful elite know that opposition must be maintained and controlled to keep this belief alive amongst the foot soldiers.
It is also why they create false narratives and phoney bones of contention. For instance, the NHS. Tories want to sell and make cuts, Labour want to save. The truth is that the NHS is shit and is actually so overflowing with money that it goes straight into the hands of both. It’s a cash cow being milked by Drug Companies, PFI’s, Common Purpose graduates and other mouchers. It’s always been the same.
No argument with that, you’re fundamentally right.
The article is propaganda (propaganda isnt necessarily untrue) but its only function is to feed already subjective views. I never read it all! Whether its well researched whos checked to find out?
It makes no new revelation other than targeting individuals for socialist revenge, its not people that should be targeted but their ideology, its small minded & unambitious.
My point is & you’ve already pointed it out, its about controlling the narrative, i don’t care about group think or collectivism, some people have a narrow definition of socalism, but in summary i simply mean it as collectivism/herd mentality.
I avoid the NHS as much as possible, literally my head would have to be hanging off to go there. It is SHIT less we forget its what has caused all the other shit too. covid19 is a political crisis & NHS has been a political football for to long, maybe its time we let the air out, if it causes so much trouble.
Freedom! Stand on that mountain! Breathe that testicle freezing air! You don’t need anyone at all! No mob! No little insects biting at your feet! With their pathetic concerns about health, food, water, protections. You can soar over these petty nothings! Those socialist minions who hate your sky reaching phallus! And they just don’t understand! Just as well you have a few – very few – horizon striding willies to share your triumph with! Let the Untermenschen civilization collapse! It’s THEIR world – a world for amoebas! Grab that club and stride out there! KILL!
Libertarians don’t believe in no society. It means individuals are free to contract and joinder as they wish under the principle “do no harm”. For many, I can’t speak for Objective, Libertarianism is steeped in mutual respect for each other as inhabitants of earth and basic human decency. Statists constantly tell the lie that humans have to dominate so we must have a state to “protect” the little guy. Of course, the opposite ALWAYS happens. An avatar society may well have existed, but I won’t get into that because you certainly won’t want to hear evidence that disprove your own entrenched beliefs in the timeline of history taught by state education.
“My point is & you’ve already pointed it out, its about controlling the narrative, i don’t care about group think or collectivism, some people have a narrow definition of socalism, but in summary i simply mean it as collectivism/herd mentality.”
Exactly my point to George. Social-ism. Like you say it’s the social element. My only interest in socialism is spiritually in the afterlife. This life is for the individual to flourish with the support of the social structure. Thatcher understood this notion well.
I too avoid the NHS – well I tend to do the opposite of what they say. When they wanted me to go on a low fat diet and take metformin and bp drugs, I went on a high fat diet and ate grapefruit and true cinnamon. Funny how all my symptoms and big fat belly disappeared very quickly. They were shocked when I went back to see th enurse, and didn’t even ask how I did it. The NHS advice on so much stuff runs totally at odds to even the BMJ etc. It’s bizarre how doctors read one thing and conclude the exact opposite.
The NHS needs to end. We have gave up our freedoms, to “save the nhs” (that was the alleged reason wasn’t it?). I thought the NHS was to save us…..servants become the masters. The NHS is the greatest form of social control ever envisaged – on a political Machiavellian level it’s pure genius.
Yup, i’m with ya, about 15-20 years ago I went to the hospital for a very minor ailment (referred by GP) it was astonishing the waste & beuracry & in the end after about 6 appointments i stopped going and in all those appointments they didn’t once actually treat the medical issue. Then for years after that the GP kept sending me invitations to get a flu jab! which i rudely declined.
You’re right once the service becomes more important than those it serves its time to take a step back & review WTF is going on , but as i’ve said cv19 & the state of NHS are a political crisis its all become corrupt to save politicians careers . Whether whats happening now was part of what the likes of Hunt had been doing for years or simply it coming back to bite them who knows but we & it are being managed to further political careers not address a fictional pandemic.
Definition of a ‘libertarian’ – someone the system has so effectively co-opted that they think they are free, and their ‘ideas’ (if I can dignify them with that term), are their own.
No that’s your defintion. I don’t think I’m free silly billy. I think I’m a slave. I was born free, and that freedom is taken away very quickly thanks to people like you who are the true co-opted assets of the state/capitalism/socialism/however you want to label the control system.
I have rarely seen such projection as you are displaying, literally spewing your own self pity and angst onto others.
Pretty poor invective – you ought to practice more.
You talk as if communism or socialism are epitomised by the ‘state’ – of course, you wouldn’t know this, as by your own admission you have never read Marx, but Marx wrote that his ambition for the result of his theories would be a “withering away of the state”.
That’s where ignorance gets you – into looking stupid.
Stupid like saying someone admits to having not read something when they clearly didn’t. I have never come across anyone online who so rabidly projects onto others.
Calm down a bit, your replies are still confused.
definition of a communist;
‘someone who repeats the same mistakes and expects a different outcome’
useful idiots and central bankers.
Definition of an dolt – someone who conflates two entirely different groups of people without an explanation and thinks this is an argument.
You are so confused that I just don’t know where to start. Maybe you could try reading some basic sociology first, something on the psychology of gullibility, if there is such a thing, then some general world history, and . . . the list really is endless, and even if you managed all that, well, the prognosis isn’t good given the degree of ignorance shown above.
IOW Maybe you should read someones opinion and agree with them like I did. Your abandonment of logic and use of fallacies is truly astounding. Is that you Owen Jones? I imagine you one of the self enlightened who would execute Socrates all because that is the flavour of the day.
Even your invective is becoming confused and incoherent now. Try re-phrasing it all so that it makes sense- or maybe next time I’ll do it for you, just out of pity.
You are a very unhappy individual. Shabbat shalom.
Actually, to be perfectly honest, I’m having a good time, sitting on the deck enjoying the sun. I can safely say that I’m not in the least unhappy. The only cloud on the horizon is your inability to write coherent English, and I’m not really too bothered about that either.
As evidenced in history and on this forum, leftists typically fear and sneer at the non-leftist ‘herd’ as their inferiors, but are afraid to leave their own safe herd and become free-thinking individuals. Their hate of criticism and challenge herds them closer together, and intensifies the groupthink.
I long for the day that all people are capable of using logic and reason – for me it’s the closest thing to Godliness and until every sould is free in this manner human consiousness will always be parasited off by the evils of socialism. Socialism has the root emotions of jealousy and in turn anger. Ironically it’s more caveman like than George can possibly imagine.
Wow! Another successful for the capitalist school system – you boys really are brainwashed and subservient to the system. I bet neither one of you has ever read anything about ‘socialism, or anything by Marx, or even anything by anyone except maybe Ayn Rand, the Philosopher for the Clueless.
Subservient how? So logic and reason stems from capitalism? Of course you bet I haven’t read the rambling of Marx, but then I suspect you haven’t read anything yourself on the subject or you are openly admitting that logic and reason are bad things! In fact very few self professed socialists have read Marx – it’s why they point to every single instance of socialism and decry that it isn’t specialism and their totalitarian dream is much better if only they were dictator for a day.
What folk like you will never get is that humans are born free and anything that runs contrary to that is unnatural. You desire to force your will onto others is unnatural and it’s why you are deeply unhappy and are making the rest of the planet unhappy too.
Subservient because thats what capitalism likes – little individualistic entrepreneurs who will keep the nuts and bolts of the system going and won’t ask any awkward questions about consequences.
You are mistaken about what is “making the planet unhappy” it’s the rape and despoilation of under-developed countries and the poor in developed countries by the rabid excesses of unrestrained capitalist greed.
And I have read Marx, and Lenin, and Bakunin, and Proudhon, and quite a few others. But as you admit, you haven’t, so all you know of Marxism is what you have been taught in your of course totally unbiased capitalist school system. Yet you think you have the authority to talk about what Marxism is. I would say you are pretty deluded, for someone who was ‘born free’. Born free but successfully brainwashed!
I never admitted I haven’t read Marx. You see what you want.
ps are you capable of having your own thoughts or must they be fed to you by others? The planet is unhappy because humans have distanced themselves from the Earth, nature and towards ideas such as capatalism AND socialism.
At last you are making sense! You are sort of right – we have become divorced from the reality of existence. Why didn’t you say something like this in the first place, instead of groaning on about socialism.
But this is the problem with capitalism. It would also be a problem for socialism as presently imagined within capitalist society, but not ultimately, as socialism could eventually adapt to a non-growth economy, while capitalism needs to grow continuously.
As you may have by now read in one of my replies to you above, Marx envisaged a non-state society where you could paint in the morning, fish in the afternoon and read or party in the evening.
But of course, you are correct in that any of that would have to be done in at the very least, a sustainable way.
isms are central bankers jisms
And then there was covid19 & who rushed to destroy the civilized world? Take a guess.
What i always find profound about socialists is there petty hatred & unwillingness to be sociable, i couldn’t stir if you weren’t so easily stirred!
I commented in a non offensive way to demonstrate that & look how easy it was. What is a socialists first line of attack? Personal name calling & smears, rather than debating facts.
I was accused of all manner of things (below) as you have again with the usual venom & nastiness because i mentioned the horrors of socialism, which are repeating themselves over & over again. History doesn’t remember socialism kindly & the future looks bleak now its raised its ugly head again.
Well let’s look at your “non offensive” comments about socialism, Sub-objective:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/10/invasion-of-the-new-normals/
You link socialism with a video that has nothing to do with socialism.
You say,
i.e. they form actual groups! Shock horror! How dare they!
Oh, hang on – weren’t they attempting to unite?
Mixing metaphors here. But consistency isn’t your strong point.
And this while no-one but yourself was mentioning socialism!
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/09/alexandr-lukashenko-a-president-with-scruples/
Willem tries to have a conversation with you about the merits of communism and you completely disregard everything he says, calling him mentally ill at one point and then retreating behind the pretence that it’s a joke!
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/08/our-beautifully-democratic-wars/
“The Coming Revolution” has a detailed post to explain “the historical definition of capitalism” and shows how “it follows from it that all the countries in the so called “civilized world” are capitalist countries.” All you do is simply contradict him after saying that Marx’s “definitions of capitalism surprisingly aren’t the only view on what it means” without telling us YOUR definition.
How does it feel to be like a Trolling Stone!
Success makes capitalism bearable. Also, socialism is a political system created to take control of capitalism from the people, and limit them. By contrast, capitalism is an economic system which exists before and without socialism. It can never limit socialists. The two things are not alternatives.
No-one has control over capitalism. Capitalism has control over them. And that is capitalism’s “success”.
Knock, knock, who’s there?
An Iraqi undertaker.
What brings you to London?
I got so much overtime burying my citizens in 2003 that I wanted to buy Boris Johnson a drink for being so negligent in his duties back in the day….
The same joke could be made about Kurdish undertakers in Damascus or Istanbul, Israeli undertakers in Palestinian towns, Palestinian undertakers in Jerusalem, Christian undertakers in Islamist areas of Nigeria, Chinese Uigyur Muslim undertakers in Beijing, and indeed any undertakers in the communist and Islamist tyrannies murdering their own citizens everywhere. No international flights needed for them. Oppression, violence and death suck for everyone, not just for Iraqis.
Mocking socialists is very tempting, especially given their of love of sneering at anti-leftists regardless of the accuracy of criticism. I do it when sneered at. How tired we critics of leftism are of being endlessly called racists, white supremacists, Uncle Toms, low-information voters, deploreables, dumb rednecks, ignorant gammons, xenophobic little Englanders, fascists, little Hitlers, and on and on. It seems that leftists hate normies and people with different opinions more than ‘the system’ they traditionally bemoan. They seem unable to use reason against criticism, preferring instead to insult, smear, deplatform or cancel messengers bringing unwelcome messages. Nor do they see that attacking the little guys with non-leftist opinions only divides us and stops our common effort against a corrupt system and the unaccountable globalist elite we all loathe. So your choice of mockery against leftists is understandable but may not strengthen our collective resistance.
I’m not mocking or deliberately baiting socialists.
Socialism = collectivism is the movement of the time that is destroying our way of life. The left are being activated by a neo-liberal, technocracy to implement a political coup, a war-less takeover of the “free world”.
The socialists are the most pressing issue of our time without the socialist communist (collectivist) activism we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in. I’m not stating gates, trump or Johnson are socialists but they are using socialist values to achieve their goals.
Take this article if you are a follower of geroge galloway you are most certainly a socialist, if you believe starmer is right wing you must be on the far left, and like all socialists the main purpose of the article seems to be to identify individuals for what reason? If someone stabs me in the back, my first priority isn’t the name of the person that did it! This article is hypocritical propaganda to feed socialist values.
The trouble with your last remark is it is collectivism that has us all wearing masks & the reason for lock down. You don’t need to form a committee or consensus to simply say no to being poisoned. We can only fight back by being pro active not reactive we don’t need to form a political movement or all become communists to refuse a vaccine. And most modern socialists are not genuine impoverished repressed people, the vast majority are privileged middle class who don’t know what its like to go hungry or sit in the dark worrying about paying the rent (i do!). Neo-liberals are using socialist values to herd us into a dystopian one world government.
I will not give up my freedoms for a common purpose, I am sick to death of a socialism that puts the rights of the community over the rights of the individual. All my life i’ve waited for socialism to actually afford me some benefit, not once has socialism ever given me more rights or freedoms. because politicians can not give you those things they can only take them away. Socialism simply tells me what to eat, where to eat, when to eat,where to live, what to live in, how i must conduct myself whilst i’m living there & now its dictating when i can live, all the time making judgments on my every action, I don’t need it what i need is to be left alone by government, i can provide all the things i need for myself, myself & if others cant then they need to learn those skills. i’m over it & this plandemic has crossed my line of tolerance, i say profoundly & sincerely fuck off socialism.
I’m sick of being controlled & managed like livestock! And i blame collectivism (socialist values). When i see socialists like George Galloway rant about libertarians not wearing masks or staying locked indoors for his 90 year old mothers health, trust me its not for petty kicks i fight socialism. socalism is authoritarian by nature & i’m over being told what my life should be & how to live it for the benefit of others.
“The left are being activated by a neo-liberal, technocracy to implement a political coup, a war-less takeover of the “free world”.”
Oh, if only . . . this site is a hotbed of inane conspiracy theories, but I think that is probably the most stupid to be found here.
What sort of delusion are you labouring under to think you are a “normie”?
You sound much more like one of the pathetic little minority of Ayn Rand fanboys. Unless of course you are a US citizen, in which case you may actually be normal, but just intellectually challenged.
Again… 5 stars. Appreciate the work you’ve put into this 2 part series Iain.
As for the ‘people’ you mentioned, my skin was crawling.
Soulless neoliberal ideologues with the morality of rats, who are out to destroy whatever sliver of freedom we have left.
Saying that from Melbourne that feels quite poignant actually.
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again, but the Neoliberalism Softpanorama site has an excellent analysis on what makes these creatures tick; their rigid dogmatic beliefs, their authoritarianism, their cult like behaviour.
And if the legislation is passed, it won’t only be the Kate Hopkins of the World the CCDH will be coming after, it will be sites like OffGuardian or Global Research or even people like Iain Davies who seriously questions the establishment narrative.
Remember that poem by Pastor Niemoller? First they came…
Thanks for the encouragement. The OffGuardian have already been targeted on Twitter and their links come with warnings. Yep, I’m under no illusions where this is heading and doubt small blogs like mine will survive.
Get a mailing list going…..
Of course those scammers want to shut down anyone who would expose their pseudo science racket to the world. They should all be in prison.
A faint hope. More chance you taking the law into your own hands…
Trump thinks like you. His endorsement and use of HCQ looks almost calculated to flush out the corporate rats corrupting US government and policy with their pseudoscience, trying to get HCQ exclouded from medical protocols around the world so as to profit their big pharma friends with their dodgy ‘cures’. The rats include infamous chief science advisor Dr Fauci, faithful user of Neil Ferguson’s marvellous models to insist on lockdown and ruin for the lives of millions, constant enemy of HCQ even though his department’s researchers knows it inhibits all coronaviruses, constant friend of the corrupt WHO controlled by Xi Jinpeng, funder of Wuhan scientists collecting and researching deadly pathogens after such work was outlawed by Obama as too dangerous, owner of various patents for treatments against various contagions, and expert in changing and contradicting his own recommendations on a weekly basis. Yet after decades in a top government job, he cannot even be fired, not even by the President. That DC swamp needs a lot of draining.
More on this cronyvirus scam. The pathetic little Stasi agents hired to duff up people have got nothing to do . . .
https://www.anti-empire.com/contact-tracers-in-the-uk-have-nothing-to-do-because-there-are-so-few-cases/