Flu is killing more people than Covid19, and has been for months
Latest ONS figures show the “pandemic” fatalities have slowed to a trickle, and lockdown has nothing to do with it.
Kit Knightly
A report from the UK’s Office of National Statistics (ONS) shows that since at least June 19th, more people in the UK have been dying of influenza than Covid19.
This, of course, is despite the fact that “Covid19 deaths” are incredibly vaguely defined.
Under UK law a person only has to test positive for the Sars-Cov-2 virus at any point in the 28 days prior to their death for “Covid19” to be on their death certificate, a policy which totally ignores the fact the majority of Sars-Cov-2 infections are completely symptomless (and has already resulted in huge over-counts).
Meanwhile boring old influenza is lumbered with having to actually contribute to the death before being added to the death certificate. And nevertheless, for three straight months, the UK has recorded more flu deaths than Covid deaths.
See this graph:
“Ah”, some of your may be saying, “this is just evidence that the lockdown, social distancing and masks have worked.”
But that is obviously not the case. Clearly, if these measures did anything to halt viral transmission, the flu deaths would have gone down as well. They have not. They are right in line with the five-year average.
Despite social distancing and wearing masks and hand sanitizer on every corner…the spread of the flu virus has not halted one bit in its usual annual progress through society.
Ergo – the “emergency measures” have little to no impact on viral transmission.
The “novel” coronavirus is still spreading all across the population and is now killing fewer people than normal flu viruses, even though it’s late summer and we’re well past the peak flu season.
Even following the state’s own coronavirus narrative – that every person who dies with the virus is a “covid death”, and that every positive test is actually a “case” and not a false positive – even then the Covid19 story is done. The virus arrived, it hit those with weakened immune systems or who were already seriously ill, and is now moving harmlessly through the population – regardless of whatever draconian controls we put in place to (allegedly) stop it.
Just as many epidemiologists and virologists predicted it would.
Does this mean the lockdown is over? Does this mean we can dump “the new normal” and get back to the old normal, which – though I wasn’t enjoying it much at the time – I now look back on as golden age of calm and reason?
Does this mean the government are going to leave us alone?
In short, no.
Instead, the social controls are getting stricter. The UK has announced that, from Monday the 14th, no social gatherings of more than 6 people will be allowed. There’s talk of a curfew too.
Oh, and those “immunity passports”? You remember, the ones only paranoid conspiracy theorists were ever worried about. Well, they might be bringing those in to. As a purely temporary measure you understand, so people can go to the movies again.
The numbers speak for themselves. The “danger” – such as it ever was – is over. The curve has been flattened, the hospitals protected, the hands well and truly sanitized.
And yet the lockdown is still here, and getting tighter all the time. Maybe, just maybe, it was never about the virus.
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In Germany (where I live), the flu season has not officially started yet (according to the sentinel labs). However, both the flu and the Covid death numbers are virtually at/around zero since summer. The sentinel labs did not detect a single Covid infection since April 2020! Basically all cases that are propagated as the “second wave” are a lab pandemic.
https://grippeweb.rki.de/WeeklyReports.aspx (you can klick through all the weekly reports if you would like and check that for yourselves).
Social distancing, mask wearing did not have any significant impact on any viral infections (except for a steep increase in Rhinovirus infections- (which Dr. Wodarg, a renowned critic of the Covid Scandemic claims to come FROM mask wearing). It is all too transparent…
then..suddenly, the ‘numbers’ go up again and restrictions come in…later we will find those numbers have been ‘doctored’ [as usual] and nothing will be done to hold that obvious discrepancy – nor its timing – to account !
[N.Ferguson/Imperial/idiot/projection of numbers/lock-up-between-shags]
Social engineering 101.
https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/
And the clever people running the government and their wonderful scientific and medical advisors must know. They are therefore either suffering from a case of collective madness or they are guilty of crimes against humanity.
“Those clever people” plus “at imperial college” was exactly what some bright spark replied to my comments about Ferguson.!!?!? They may have made a mistake but, they’re experts so must be right at the same time as they’re wrong. This on local forum by a self professed”science graduate” It’s like wrestling with clouds.
https://www.rt.com/usa/500401-vaccine-survey-trust-cdc-fail/
Noticeable lack of trust in vaccine in USA. Also people seem to be tiring of pandemic fear and are more worried about the economy.
This thread about the new vaccines’ trials is worrying:
https://twitter.com/uTobian/status/1303550076032176129?s=20
Hardly surprising. The huge majority of people are in absolutely no danger from Covid-19. The rule of thumb, known by now to most of us, is that for healthy people under about 55 you are as likely to be struck by lightning or to die in a car accident as to die from Covid-19.
Given that, who would want to take the small but definite risk from a vaccine in order to dodge the more-or-less nonexistent risk from Covid-19?
Especially since, just as only those with weak immune systems are threatened by Covid-19, exactly the same people are in greater ddanger of being harmed by vaccination.
I’m well past 55,never had a flu shot, don’t mask up,rarely remember to wash my hands and I’m just fine. And I won’t risk a covid jab.
comment from somebody working in laboratory processing test results –
https://twitter.com/WillowWyse/status/1304116166579949568/photo/1
no increase in infections – numbers due to backlog
In Parliament: https://m.youtube.com/watch… Weakest Commons ever seen! Senior Conservative (David Davis) hits out at government arrangements HOUSE OF COMMONS Published on 6 Sep 2020 Tory MPs have criticised the arrangements in the House of Commons which prevent MPs from packing out the chamber during business, after it was announced it will all continue until November 3. Backbencher David Davis branded the Commons the “weakest House of Commons that I have ever seen” as he criticised Jacob Rees-Mogg for proposing an extension, despite being a “champion of the backbenchers”. The MP for Haltemprice and Howden called the mix of virtual and physical appearances from MPs “sub-optimal” and the “worst of all worlds”. He explained: “This is the weakest House of Commons that I have ever seen. It does not do its job. The House of Commons, at its best, is far greater than the sum of its parts. It is an… Read more »
Talk is cheap. What are our politicians going to do about it?
Nothing, I expect.
If you think that’s weak, it seems a small pillar compared to Melbourne, which taken together is just shocking. You can barely look, but I caught this at opednews.com which is mostly left, “yet” has a lot of anti-lockdown posts. I found this link.
What is the cui bono of the cui bono, there? A true boot in the face of us all, our heart to our friends there, bon courage and hang tough:
https://www.opednews.com/articles/From-Lockdown-to-Police-St-by-Ellen-Brown-Lockdown-200822-80.html
That article is an accurate depiction of life in Melbourne, but it turns out that the curfew here was not even based on any medical reason. It was just a whim of the deranged, power mad Premier, Daniel Andrews.
And when questioned by the woefully sycophantic ‘media’ whose decision it was, he outright lied and claimed the Chief Health Officer made it. Then claimed the Police Chief made it. Today, he admitted he made the decision.
And the majority of trained seals keep applauding him.
The situation here is utterly bonkers and you now have cops in full riot gear for completely peaceful protesters. They seem to target elderly ladies and pregnant women quite a bit.
Sorry you all have to go through all that. It feels like Melbourne is being used as a Petri dish for other things. A study.
I can relate.
Maybe we all can? In different ways.
The present government has triumphantly achieved what King Charles I attempted, but failed to carry off – to neuter Parliament.
Perhaps we should remember what happened to King Charles I after he resorted to force in order to impose his will on the country.
Undermining legislative oversight is in itself a major means to the future global paradise.
This is a very clear analysis of seasonal and geographic trends in flu and Covid19 infections and deaths, comparing the two illnesses. Essentially it confirms that they follow identical patterns. If you also factor in the big questions from the outset about the inappropriateness of the PCR test and deaths incorrectly attributed to Covid19, the only conclusion to be drawn from this presentation is that Covid19 is comparable to, or possibly even of less consequence than, a normal flu. And let’s face it, that’s exactly what the Government signalled to us on 19 March 2020 when they removed Covid19 from the official list of High Consequence Infectious Diseases. That was one thing they did get right.
If it is the one (and perhaps only lol) thing they did get right as we have an Emperor’s Clothes Scenario for the Ages. I had an obnoxious checker at my health food market yesterday try to interrupt a spiel I gave the head manager, with a loud and aggressive shush of my facts in favor of her baloney, and she was dismissed with the slight flick of a wrist and slinked away. The same checker harrassed me a half year ago in a store that was the slowest around to put on masks (she was already wearing a shield). I had told the manager that their parent store, where I have shopped since 1983, had made the news on these threads by closing the doors on two ladies and calling the cops. The store was closing and she was too busy, but she was hanging on my every word… Read more »
Interesting to hear your experiences, John. I have found in the last day or so that I have become much bolder and less inhibited about stating my views to complete strangers – I have come to realise that there is little to lose and potentially much to gain. I have been pleasantly surprised at how responsive the three people I ‘chose’ to target have been. I must have chatted to each of them for at least 45 minutes. In fact I was almost struck dumb when I realised they were interested in listening to me rather than walking away muttering! I think their responsiveness was due in large part to their recognition at last that our Prime Minister and his cohorts are deranged.
I’ve been talking it up too.
They know me here. I’ve seen managers ten miles away actually shush their young reps at store entrances (at different ALDIs) just before they pounced on me. The message got through from the peripheries, “Don’t make any sudden moves around this guy. He’s a postal worker maybe.” (Lol. Inside old USA joke.)
But seriously, there may be a little more wiggle room here than some states, lands, yet I’m hesitant to read too much into my spot analyses, we’re playing this hand out against some pretty high stakes poker card sharps, and they are gathering data on everyone in volume. Bigly.
Sharing one’s opinions is not only the right, but the duty of every concerned citizen.
Governments have been straining every muscle (hope they get hernias) to separate, isolate and cut us off from one another.
We must not stand for it.
As Andrew Mather repeatedly points out in his superb video updates, any infectious disease goes up, then down. If the number of cases and deaths appears to go up, then sideways, it’s not a disease but a hoax.
https://twitter.com/YellowCube7/status/1304032980864651264
This is alarming read as covid killed no one.
No isolated virus and no new disease.
covid: the Big Lie
Any chance we’re being tested as to how much we’ll take before we push back? They do love to experiment.
There was a good article by Fintan O’Toole on this subject, https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375?mode=amp.
Ironically, Fintan recognized trial runs in 2018, but not in 2020.
Terrrible article full of Trumo derangement syndrome.
Fuck fintan the gobshite
IT is a evil rag
Sour grapes, it is exhausting trying to communicate with people on this site who pick at every comment for no reason. Dualistic thinking is unnecessary. Liking part of an article is acceptable even though, as I stated, the author wrote these words but DID NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THE VERY THING HE WARNED AGAINST TURNED UP in ANOTHER FORM (COVID19). So go fuck yourself AElfræd and Arsebiscuits! David, in this comment, TRIAL RUNS equate to TEST MARKETING. Please see below. For everyone else THIS is what stuck with me, and yes, oh the irony of ‘being a fool not to see it” : (Fintan stated in 2018) “Fascism doesn’t arise suddenly in an existing democracy. It is not easy to get people to give up their ideas of freedom and civility. You have to do TRIAL RUNS to do that, and if they are done well, serve two purposes. 1. They… Read more »
You’re not being tested. Your DNA is being harvested & logged
Yep. You have to hope that there is a collective, unconscious red-line/ tipping point that humanity has, that will trigger a push back. At the moment, I don’t hold out much hope!
The Left, by their absence from anti-lockdown protests, have walked into this.
Or should I say, walked out of it.
I would say the Left have disappeared or rather they’ve become superfluous. The Left sites I have visited are either mimicking the mainstream panic multiplied by ten and with self righteous outrage attached or are maintaining a profile so low that they have sank out of sight. Well who knows? Perhaps they’re just kidding on and will shortly come out blazing like Clint in the Spaghetti westerns? Nah I don’t think so either.
It’s because global warming and brexit caused the pandemic, so it’s got to be deadly.
Dr Mohammed Adil is currently on the Richie Allen show – apparently, Adil was speaking at the house of traitors today – he states very clearly that Hancock claims the NHS is operating back at the same levels before covid in Jan/Feb this year – WAT??
http://108.163.223.242:8102/stream?type=.mp3
I’d like to know if having this health passport will be compulsory for holders of tickets bought before its introduction. I’m buying tickets for gigs in March (with ticket refund protection, just in case) and I have no intention of getting any health passport…
26th Sept: Trafalgar Square, 500,000 expected. Spread the word.
WRONG DATE, IT’S THE 19TH
Both of you are right. 😀 There are rallies in Trafalgar Square on 19 September AND 26 September. Other rallies around the country in September as well.
https://www.keepbritainfree.com/forum/activism/september-events-around-the-uk-1
One has to ask why we put up with it. Seriously. A Hollywood movie, a video game, a good, old-fashioned confidence trick, or ACTUAL REAL LIFE… The government and the media clearly no longer acknowledge that there is any difference, so, for once, we could actually learn from the US Declaration of Independence: “… to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath… Read more »
amazing video from Rachel Elnaugh
https://youtu.be/CguZY5gKyr4
speaks out about how to wake people up!
I agree. Everyone should watch. What she has to say probably won’t come as a surprise to most here, but we badly need people to try to get the message out (while we still can, as Rachel rightly stresses).
new government campaign to help reduce CV deaths
from the same people who brought you dont kill Nannie !!!
Quebec Sends “Uncooperative” Citizens To Secret Quarantine Camps
During a press conference, Dr. Jacques Girard, who heads the Quebec City public health authority said:
“It should be noted that it is not being claimed that anyone is actually sick from the coronavirus. But the state has the power to force a citizen into isolation anyway.”
“We may isolate someone for 14 days,” Girard said during the press conference. “And it is what we did this morning…forced a person to cooperate with the investigation…and police cooperation was exceptional.”
Note that Theresa Tam, public health officer of Canada, outlined these measures in a 2010 documentary, talking about forcible quarantine and tracking people with ‘arm bracelets’ https://spencerfernando.com/2020/04/28/watch-in-2010-video-theresa-tam-mused-about-putting-bracelets-on-arms-to-track-people-during-pandemic/
listen carefully to what Jonathon Sumption says about the problematic use of the 1984 Public Health Act
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/10/planet-normal-use-fear-has-brought-greatest-invasion-personal/
the whole scam is unlawful
and the regimes non-use of the Civil Contingencies Act confirms their deliberate desire not to be accountable
We already know nothing happens by accident. The fact that the flu has suddenly become the disease de jour tells me Big Pharma is having a little trouble selling its COVID-19 vaccine to the public. So until the brouhaha settles a bit, they’ll be touting the “tried and true” flu vaccine as our savior.
Hey offGuardian… check this out from the onlineGuardian!
Covid vaccine: ‘8,000 jumbo jets needed’ to deliver doses around worldIndustry body IATA warns of capacity shortage for ‘biggest aviation challenge ever’
source
Apparently the scoundrels at IATA want the ENTIRE POPULATION VACCINATED!
it is for the best
all the money the wealth has been stolen
it is time
to clean up the mess
take out the goyim
some of them where getting very feisty
with all that 13th tribe ashkanazim pirate stuff
it is dirty work but nothing the chabad have not handled before
with vaccines and 5g who needs
zyclon b
which was never very effective only a fumigator
Covid vaccine: ‘8,000 jumbo jets needed’ to deliver doses around world
taking care of the witness to the biggest crime scene in history
is it not my life already
The emissions from those jets will end the world so it doesn’t matter anyway.
Note the photo in this otherwise totally pro-Covid, pro-mask story from a mainstream Czech daily:
http://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/domaci/rousky-lekarny-nakup-zajem-respiratory.A200910_093200_domaci_remy
LOL. They always rub it in our faces.
I am from England. Based in Japan and have been for the best part of 30 years. Looking on at events back ‘home’ I can’t help wondering why ? Why the lockdowns and the heavy handed draconian measures ? Anyone who has done even an hour’s research can see that there is either no virus or if indeed there is, then it is not serious enough to warrant such disproportionate measures. I understand the concept of The Great Reset and Blockchain and have gotten my head around where those that shall not be named want to take us. I get all that but why England ? Of course we see similar trends in the US, and have in Italy, Spain and France but the majority of the world is not in Lockstep. We live with the ‘virus’ here too with masks and anti social distancing and silly markers on super… Read more »
Probably a distraction from the UK government running out of road on Brexit. Especially as the policy isn’t actually that dramatic.
It’s happening in all the Five Eyes countries.
Confirming it is the same here in the US. Although “cases” are super low here in Utah, my county’s mayor just extended the mask mandate through the end of the year.
I did find reason to quietly celebrate this week. My local grocery store took the one directional arrows and “wrong way” stickers from off their floors! It was surprisingly nice to walk down an aisle and nod jovially (can’t talk through the mask) at other shoppers. Makes me wonder about the psychology of taking away a bunch of freedom, then when you give back 50% of it, people suddenly feel liberated.
As Rachel Elnaugh describes in the video posted by @Bob above, this is all part of the subjugation psychology. People have a misguided sense of gratitude for small positive gestures by the Government (compounded by the belief that the Government is doing all it can to protect them ) so are less inclined to be sceptical or suspicious when the controls are tightened again, then relaxed again, then tightened again moreso, etc etc: Two steps back, one step forward, one step back,another step back, two steps forward, three steps back…and Bingo.
It gives the impression that the Government is on top of the non-existent problem and most of the public are reassured by this. Eventually the Government has people existing in the society they have purposefully contrived without any, or very little, resistance and, indeed, with the active complicity of 99% of the public.
That makes sense. The ploy certainly worked on me at the grocery store this week. I’m listening to the Rachel Elnaugh video now. Thanks!
I kinda agree with this but then also changing tact leaves people confused and anxious. This makes them more suggestible. It’s quite literally hypnosis and I dont mean that in a hyperbolic way.
Since this is an invasion, it’s part of the methodology of all occupying armies, since hostility itself began, called “pacification”. It’s as though a form of “waterboarding”. When you put it on “pause” well then it’s a sudden relief. Raising false hopes, it is just a tease. Gavin Newsom reopened our gyms in June, then closed them again in July, then said some could move their equipment outdoors to the parking lots. A lot of them were so blitzed they folded and have filed bankruptcy. After being a thorn in the side of my Y for 5 years as an outspoken member, they just cancelled mine last week because some youngster maybe not out of his teens told me all kinds of new rules about face coverings and I rebelled and gave 3 of them what for. Then they lied about what I had said. I wouldn’t stoop to respond… Read more »
Thanks for sharing! I do get the feeling that they are tightening the screws on us. Pushing it past the limits of credibility. And sadly, enough people go along that it works (myself included). I get scolded often enough by friends, family, and employees or other patrons wherever I go, and I don’t have a lot of cajones to stand up to it. Pulling my mask down under my nose is my rebellious act lately. Upon entrance to the airport in Chicago a few weeks ago, I was told that improperly donning your mask can be fined something like $2.5k. It’s interesting to hear your story about California. I was in Sacramento in May and while I had a hell of a time with the rules (my husband was in the hospital and we were unable to enter), I also met so many kind residents who were fed up with… Read more »
LKing wrote: “We seem to have many Californians moving here to Utah to get away from the situation.” Thanks, I was up in San Francisco a few years ago and northerners are notoriously nicer than my County of “The OC” where I have returned for the lockdown to Newport because it’s the closest thing to “home base.” As a waiter in ’74 at the Balboa Bay Club I poured John Wayne’s coffee there. They named the main airport after him here, and he was lionized all over in a very right wing culture along the coast. (Go a little inland 10 to 20 miles and it’s now majority Left, or at least pro-populus.) The Duke was a world icon for war, my Mom worked at the club as did I and believes he was gulled and “played” by the big boys, as do I. Kruschev stopped by here after a… Read more »
“u7” in the A. Artaud quote above was clearly inserted by the web pixies, should have been “downright”. (The Laing book itself is a worthy add to any reading list, “Wisdom, Madness, and Folly” which phrase itself is found in that sequence somewhere in the Old Testament canon, I found one read.)
Thanks for the thoughtful reply John. Do you have more writing somewhere about your life that I can find online? I would like to know more about your experiences in California. I’m from Las Vegas originally and I have close ties to friends and family in CA, NV, and UT that all seem uniquely ours and interrelated. I have more reading to do now, about John Wayne and the R.D. Laing book you referenced. Thanks for sharing and I hope you have a wonderful day.
Everywhere, most people are coping with masks by wearing it low, allowing the breath to go up past the eyes – at some risk to the latter. Anyone exerting himself with a “properly worn” mask who is not fit is likely to collapse. A few have collapsed and died.
I’m sad to hear but not surprised that people have collapsed and even died. I live Utah where it was near and over 100 degrees several times this summer. Whilst people wait in their AC’d cars in a line 20 cars deep at Chick-fil-A, the employees had to stand outside in their uniforms (long pants) and masks, taking orders. The whole thing is absurd. Also was in Las Vegas this summer when it was around 113 degrees. As we sat cooking by the pool, hosts and wait staff had to wear their black masks outdoors to work. Although that group did all seemed to be quite fit.
I am wondering whether political parties or candidates running on a programme of loosening Covid restrictions might start to have success, although if elected they might not keep their promises. People might vote for them just to get a bit of normality back. People complain about far right presence at rallies, but perhaps they are positioning themselves rather cleverly. This bullsh*t cannot go on forever. Sooner or later there is a reaction.
From what we read here about the global macro-economics driving all of this, there is a “follow the money” backstory to why governments are responding in differing ways. I suspect that’s the only way you can define the differing degrees of hoax.
Otherwise, how would anyone possibly explain the huge disparity between Japan’s reaction and Melbourne’s?
Obviously this is not meant to be satire but meant seriously.
His eyes are so dark, no soul.
how i hate that phrase “doing the right thing”.
As for not wearing a mask and not engaging with forced isolation, Whitney Said it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J538b-OLRU
I haven’t been keeping up with Michael Leunig’s cartoons and so had a bit of a laugh looking at a few just now.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-latest-illustrations-from-artist-michael-leunig-20090711-dgl6.html
Great ones!
It is only missing the death part on this one! For a proper Democratic Health Care, of course!
brilliant, brilliant Leunig. The only sane spot in australia’s shameful mainstream media.
He is.
Why do we keep talking as if this thing is real even though it’s not dangerous? No! Covid19 is not a real disease. It is an imaginary disease. There is no Sar-Cov2 virus. The whole thing is a psy-op.
The FUN part is that they use the usual pneumonia to make the spy-op credible to the Herd of Moron Slaves! And it clearly works.
They ALWAYS use pneumonia for these types of fake pandemics!
Not exclusively pneumonia. They’re not too fussy – car and bike accidents I think have played a role among other health and injury befallings.
1st in USA we had the “crime” of DWB: “Driving While Black”.
This year it’s IWC: “Infected While Crashing”
Or perhaps it’s really the switcheroo of that, CWI: “Crashing Whilst Infected”.
(I just realized that may have been what the coroner in Florida was crystallizing in his conflated brain about the motorcycle death misfiled as covid: the dead biker had recovered from Covid some time ago, “but I don’t know, it may have played some part.”
Now I get it. I think.)
I know. Drives me mental.
In Australia being 100 years old with 1 day to live with alzheimers and a fake positive death with get you dead from covid. Now the Victorian CHO is doing the UK trawl in reverse, they are trawling through deaths in old folks home looking for anyone with a snivel months ago and calling them covid deaths.
How do you know this? There are a number of anti lockdown scientists, who have appeared in off-g articles, who see through all the agenda BS but who believe the virus exists.
I am asking because I want to be convinced of your point of view. And I want to have credible evidence to present to people with whom I interact.
Are you of the opinion that no virus exists? Or just Sars Cov 2 doesn’t?
OffG published at least two articles about this:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-president-of-the-bulgarian-pathology-association/
And here are their respective authors refuting the “fact-checking” of their work by Politifact et al.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/31/open-letter-refuting-politifacts-fact-check/
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/06/fact-checking-a-fact-checker-a-response-to-healthfeedback-org/
Professor Spiegelhalter spoke on BBC Radio 4 this morning about his research (statistics Uni Cambridge). He told us that the risk of death during the peak of this so called pandemic, the risk of death doubled every 6 years, i.e. exponential growth. This struck me as being quite normal and I researched death rates by age and found, surprise that normally the risk of death is also exponential, i.e. doubles approximately every 5 years see http://www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html. So what does this mean? Well if there was no serious disease, we could label a subset of the population chosen at random with anything and get this same death profile for that labelling. Or in other words people die, older people are more at risk of dying. But what about the excess deaths during lockdown. Well frightened people. Are more at risk to succumbing to illness, isolated old people are more at risk of dying… Read more »
Or some democracy even, for promoting sanity.
We know there is a hidden hand directing government.
All talk which does not address who they are, and what their aims are, is pissing in the wind.
If you still do not know, start by educating yourselves on the ‘Russian Revolution’ and work forwards to the present day.
I’m sure that ‘they’ WHO orchestrated this must have factored in a level of resistance at some point. That resistance is now gaining some steam. So it now remains to be seen what their next step will be in response. It’s a sick pantomime.
GET READY!! U.N. CONCERT OFFICIALLY “DECLARES” THE NEW WORLD ORDER
https://lbry.tv/@richiefromboston:9/get-ready-u-n-concert-officially:1
Today’s Guardian offering of fear “Expert questions drive to get people back into offices in England”
…Comes from, wait for it, Neil Ferguson!
“One of UK’s top disease experts” The Graun still believes the discredited Prof is a top expert!
They claim in their dumb funding blurb, “we investigate, interrogate and expose the actions of those in power, without fear” Really? What happened here then?
But none of this, they just report the same tired old rhetoric “flattening the curve”, “hot spots” etc…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/10/neil-ferguson-expert-questions-drive-to-get-people-back-into-offices-in-england
Go figure, all his predictions were false, all his assumptions are flawed but the Guardian’s rhetoric remains the same.
This is propaganda and faked news.
You read the Guardian, you support the oppression. You are not on my side.
It’s actually good to read articles you disagree with; one can’t be afraid to do so or they may assume an offense on incorrect information and present foolishly.
“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.”
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Most of the European papers splash their “minute-by-minute” so-called Covid statistics on the cover, then solicit donations and paid subscriptions. Because dear reader, we need you to protect INDEPENDENT JOURNALISM!
Someone please take a knife and plunge it in my chest, now.
already many folks cannot quite remember who neil or nial ferguson are or is
he must be clever cos he imperial
gold fish minds from vaccines,food water and emf radation
zombie towns and mongrel nations
borged
barbera lerner spector
I know, Neil Ferguson is still the flavour of the month in Victoria, the CHO is twisting himself like a pretzel
I thought only the USA MSM pulled similar crap! Like how they worship our demigod Dr. Fauci. Oh well.
Who are you funded from? What? people worrying about Immunity passport are the ‘paranoid conspiracy theorists’? What these countries in the below mentioned articles are doing ALREADY.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/el-salvador-to-give-immunity-passports-to-those-who-recovered-from-covid-19/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/chile-coronavirus-immunity-passport-antibody-testing-card/2020/04/20/8daef326-826d-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168169920300673
And do listen to what RFID chip inventor (Carl Sanders) told about it(you can find it on Youtube with downplayed number of hits).
You should be kicked out of Off-guardian because you are suing those idiotic incriminating phrase of ‘conspiracy theorists’ as the MSM which you criticize. Shame on you. If I did not read this article and saw that word ( conspiracy theorists), I’d have wanted to voluntarily donate some amount to Off-guardian but now I think I will not!
Please read the article again and take note of the context in which the term “conspiracy theorists” is used. As with everything I’ve ever read in Off-Guardian, the term is merely mocking what the MSM calls any alternative narrative. Its use does not mean the user concurs with the way the term is used.
I commend your patience in educating Ivy
Is this satire? I hope it’s satire, because the use of the phrase ‘conspiracy theorists’ (which is a phrase btw, not a word. The clue is the big space in the middle) is clearly getting used in an ironic way to illustrate a point. Duh.
I hope it’s irony at work, not you reading an abstract part of the article that you felt you could get uppity about and skipping the rest. Which is what it sounds like,
obvious
The data is for influenza and pneumonia deaths. The actual flu numbers are only a fraction of this and arn’t even true. The numbers are lumped together and called “flu deaths” to give a perception that there is something a ‘flu vaccine’ could help with. Rather than being useful to expose the neo nazi covid cult these numbers actually cause people to believe in the covid-19 propaganda since if people die from the flu why not corona? ‘The flu’ is infact a seasonal detox and so “the danger” is not over much less reduced by using flu and pneumonia [vaccine marketing ]data to assert “Flu is killing more people than Covid19”.
But your fellow citizens want this.
Seasonal detox?
Turns out Australia’s youngest “Covid victim” died of an overdose.
So once again we see that it is impossible to know how many people really died from the virus.
Exactly Sam. The level of deceit being played politically is beyond belief.
Because “the virus” is a fiction
Zero died from “the virus”. They died from the sausage sizzlers.
How do you know this is not more made up bullshit? Maybe this kid never died.
He died of an overdose. But interestingly since the expose of the cdc scamming over deaths they have changed the appellation from to involving https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI And this is a formidable dashboard. I find it amazing that 12500 babies have died and don’t rate a media mention but a mere handful with so called covid involved are a catastrophe.
Sutton is trawling through old folks normal deaths looking for anyone who had a snivel going back to July. He’s desparate for his faith in Neil Ferguson to come into being.
Yes, it’s sickening. All those nursing home “Covid deaths”… They flipped from posing as the world’s best Covid preventers to trying to find as many deaths as they could to justify their jackboot policies.
The USA have listed something called ”covid like” and as it doesn’t now and nor has it ever existed how can there be anything ”like’ it
Is that like “pre-diabetic” or “pre-hypertensive”?
Yeah, and pre cancerous and being pre dead I guess
Some light relief from all the nonsense. This comes from this blog post by Mark: https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/09/09/too-good-to-pass-up-a-snitch-has-had-enough Here’s a real conversation I had with Pete, a very nice man and clerk at our local liquor store: Pete: Mark, the boss is coming down hard on us. You gotta wear a mask or I can’t sell to you. Me: I don’t want to get anyone in trouble. I just don’t wear a mask, anywhere. Pete: How do you shop at Kings Sooper? Me: Honestly, they don’t pay any attention. I do go in with a plan, get my stuff and get out, trying to be a moving target. Pete: Well, if you say you have a condition then I can let you go. Me; You mean like I am exempt? Pete: There ya go! [Rings up purchase. I had said the magic word.] Me: I have seen a doctor, I am exempt.… Read more »
I am definitely stealing that response!
Thank you.
Jesus Fucking Christ! I have just clicked through dozens of news channels and I may as well have just stayed with one. The same thing over and over: “COVID has changed and continues to change everything and it’s going to be even worse than we imagined!” etc. Sometimes it’s given a “rebel” spin with, “Those bastards were unprepared” and “I’m really angry about it!”
Oh hang on, here’s something different: we are causing the animal populations to decline …but wait a minute- no, there it is – COVID is part of the same devastating effect of humanity etc. And – here comes the biggie: “We are going to have to restructure the whole universe because of COVID”.
Please cut the crap! “We” may be restructuring – but it has fuck all to do with COVID!
Your neighbors believe it. You want to save your country? Kill your neighbors.
Uh dude they outnumber us… but they will be hesitant though…
Or the Universe…. hey those guys who believe that we are all linked in the Universe… They must think that we all have covid… and if one of them thinks covid is true… well then… Guys, is it possible we’re not part of the Universe? We might not even be alive… and the cause of course is COVID! Cause of death is one thing, but what about the cause of not existing (yeah I’m drunk)
Spoke with a friend who teaches mindfulness meditation yesterday. Whilst she admitted that she does not read about current events, and therefore doesn’t feel that she can offer an informed opinion, she was quite open to the idea that developments this year are about something other than the virus. We spoke about the notion that many people have actually enjoyed the time out from the pressures of ‘so-called normal life’ – to be called ‘a hero’ for simply staying home and taking free money from the government…it’s all quite appealing to a segment of the population. She admitted that the experience had allowed her to focus on meditation and that the taking away of autonomy was a kind of relief : a simplifying of life. We both acknowledged a degree of commonality between monastic life and being in prison. What I don’t think people like her and many others realise… Read more »
I’ve pointed out the rainbows — and some people don’t like it. The media coincidentally promoted the rainbow around the world and the UN has used rainbows on much of its Covid documentation while it’s actively linked Covid + NWO + LGBT most obviously in the UN Pacific Islands NWO Concert…
It’s a tactic to sell the totalitarian NWO while claiming to be socially progressive. This is the same tactic behind identity politics; it is the same tactic behind the current version of the Democratic Party (corporatist but socially progressive).
Don’t you love that UN concert song, BTW:
“Around the world we’re closing borders, COVID-19 on the rise
A new world order behind closed doors, the storm will pass, we will survive
We will rise, we will rise again, our isles will rise again
We will rise, we will rise again, our world will rise again”
Religion has always been a stop-gap mental technique to keep the human mind moving forward despite the rational awareness that death is inevitable and that all the struggling and striving of existence will, necessarily, be for naught in the end. Since our society replaced theism with “Science” (i.e., scientism), which offers no promise of afterlife, people still yearn to fill that void of mortal terror, but the proffered replacement religion doesn’t really motivate people to move forward, struggle, strive or achieve, because it fails to offer a “pot of gold” at the end of that ol’ rainbow. So, we have the worst of both worlds: people are eagerly, willfully deluded into some psychic schema that will distract them from their mortality; yet the particular consolation that has been chosen for them provides them no real interest in progress, work or investment. Right now you’ve got a “society” of atomized, passive… Read more »
I want to take a stab at this because you raise important points. Your aspects as I see them: pleasant/pleasurable safety: “commonality between monastic life and being in prison” “unpleasant aspects of totalitarianism” “religious angle to what has unfolded” 1-3 = “woke-ism”? To me, 1. and 2. represent the overt and covert faces of ‘mindfulness’ – ‘mindfulness’ as a consumer item though –, which is a pseudo-religious proxy that cannot meet our need for meaning and a connection with the ineffable, particularly not when the direction is withdrawal towards an isolated life surrounded by creature comforts. Because inauthentic, because basically vacuous, the first three aspects constitute woke-ism, which is narcissistic, i.e., infantile, i.e., fanatically intolerant when confronted with any opposition. (This often applies to both sides of any polarised group.) I think it all boils down to “modern man in search of a soul”. We remain blind to what soul… Read more »
“Flu is killing more people than Covid19”
and the british regime are about to kill even more
but hey, who cares ……………………..
Headline from Beeb
“World vaccine delivery ‘will need 8,000 jumbo jets'”
Which only makes you ponder how much time, money and material is being flushed down the drain on this crap.
The same money could be spent on food for the starving. Hunger is killing more than Covid.
8,000 jumbo jets?
That’s a lot of carbon ( 🙂 )
Perhaps Extinction Rebellion should get on the case – maybe glue themselves to the planes – and do something useful. For once.
Greta could take 5 minutes off from sucking Bill – and do something useful. For once.
Maybe strap herself to the nose cone – like one of those teddy bears you used to see on the front of bin wagons.
Fuck. Naughty but i nearly shat myself laughing at that.
I was under the impression that flu and pneumonia deaths had been halved when (this still yet to be proven to exist) covid1984 spiked, not sure where I got that information from but the graph clearly shows it has been below the 5 year average this year and no doubt the books were cooked but not by 50%. Great article, but it will not be headline news where it needs to be, we don’t have journalists in our mainstream media outlets, only propagandists who really ought to know better that their lives too are going to be affected, their families will suffer as a result, as much as we need Drs and Nurses to come forward and end this we need the very people who dreamed of becoming a journalist, went to uni, studied hard and worked hard to become the very thing they are not today, we need them… Read more »
I’m still waiting to hear John Pilger speak out about lockdown.
That might be outside the bounds of his strict gatekeeper parameters.
He supports lockdown.
Chomsky supports lockdown? Really? Lol!
In that case, what a treacherous piece of sh*t he is. If he supports lockdown I guess we’ll see a lot more of him on the MSM in the coming months. No doubt they’ll introduce him as a ‘prominent left winger’.
Chomsky? You are either on good drugs or a bit thick. Yes, Chomsky too, another fraud moaning about human rights then giving a fuck when his neighbors are under house arrest.
I’m answering comments about Pilger and Chomsky at the same time. It’s easy to get mixed up.
Eminent Tenured Rebel
I do wonder about the msm – well, the print media anyway. 99% of what they print is absolutely on-message. Yet small chinks of light do appear from time to time. for example, the Mail group continues to publish Peter Hitchens in the Mail on Sunday. The Telegraph has also published one or two questioning articles – nothing too outspoken but highlighting at least some of the things discussed freely on this site. There may well be others. Now, these could well be controlled opposition. But perhaps it’s something else. I refuse to believe that every single journalist and every single editor on every single newspaper is corrupt and/or fearful. That’s thousands of people and the odds are against it. It seems to me that they are all happy to publish their own particular brand of slanted ‘news’ in accordance with their own particular agendas. The key words being ‘their… Read more »
“Logic dictates the print media should follow the money. They have to in order to survive. However, if they are 100% controlled, their output will not change.”
Billionaires Blogs. They will never change.
You’re probably right.
It will be interesting nonetheless. Assuming there ever is a public ‘awakening’. Perhaps when they announce the cancellation of Christmas. We shall see.
You are an idiot for reading the MSM.
I don’t ever touch it – haven’t for years.
However, I do get comments from friends and family who still do.
I may still be an idiot, of course. Mea Culpa 🙂
I’ve read, with dismay, Peter Hitchens’ Twitter feed. He wastes his time arguing with people and bots.
At least he’s arguing 🙂
They need such feedback to come up with spin to counter it, and to be useful to their masters.
Perhaps – a journalistic litmus test.
Covid Doctors Network website in Australia shut down because of overwhelming positivity.
https://www.coviddoctorsnetwork.com/
Also, the doctors have had many threatening letters and emails. I have just finished watching an interview with one of the doctors describing just that.
Hopefully the site is back up and running shortly. Cheers!
Aussies are pussies, hopefully someone will rid that beautiful country of Aussies and let some “with balls” people replace them.
Australia’s indigenous people would like to have it back again. Not another load of destroyers and exploiters.
I don’t wish to scare the living daylights out of you but the average age of those who have died (theoretically) from covid-corona is 79.5 years old!…
Vaccine-derived Polio spreads from Chad to Sudan to Somalia. Somalia Polio Flash Update: Week 34 2020, Posted Sep 5, 2020 Another case of vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 (cVDPV2) in Banadir region, the third case in Somalia this year. The WHO says there are typically many more unreported cases for every confirmed polio patient. LONDON (AP) Sep 3, 2020 — The World Health Organization says a new polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to an ongoing vaccine-sparked epidemic in Chad — a week after the U.N. health agency declared the African continent free of the wild polio virus. WHO said two children in Sudan were paralyzed in March and April. Both had been recently vaccinated against polio… it had found 11 additional vaccine-derived polio cases in Sudan… [WHO said] the virus had also been identified in environmental samples…The highly infectious disease can spread quickly in contaminated water and most often strikes… Read more »
Silly headline. Covid-19 _was_ an ordinary flu. So you headline is saying, Flu kills more than Flu, or something like that.
By the way, you do know that Covid-19 is dead? The original Wuhan strain died out some time ago, according to a knowledgeable poster on this site; died not with a bang but a whimper — only one human death.
” Instead, the social controls are getting stricter. The UK has announced that, from Monday the 14th, no social gatherings of more than 6 people will be allowed. There’s talk of a curfew too.” This can be considered the anti peaceful demonstration law. The gatherings all over Europe Last week didn’t break out into riots or bouts of violence. It raised awareness and showed the numbers. The controllers weren’t expecting that and are no doubt regretting that the morons, sorry, i mean police, in the helicopters didn’t have any early xmas presents from Monsanto to drop among the crowd.So the beast took a kick in both the left and right ball. So this is the retaliation.Spiteful.They’re itching to impose full martial law.But we haven’t had our ‘dope’ yet. The eugenicists have always assumed superiority of intellect.But, just to make sure, they put a hundred plus years into dumbing potential dissenters down.It worked,… Read more »
Unite for Freedom – Trafalgar Square, 12pm, 26th Sept.
Yes “no more than six” released just in time for this.
I wonder what they’ll do if 35,000 turn up again. They can’t arrest everybody.
I also wonder if there will be another BLM protest, coincidentally at the same time and place, and what the official reaction would be to that one, if it materialises.
and ‘extinction rebellion’ are likely to help neuter the main demo as well.
Indeed. I know a couple of people who joined in with the whole extinction rebellion ‘movement’ last year. They went to ‘presentations’ organised by ER and bought into the whole scam.
They gained an enormous sense of self-validation, feeling that they were ‘doing something’. Essentially, it was all about them and their personal crusades. In these sedentary times, that’s how ER get a lot of faux radical support.
Nothing I could say would dissuade them, no matter how persuasive or coherent the argument. They were true believers. Not sure how they feel now as haven’t spoken to either of them for about nine months.
If ER do turn up to the demo, they will be the ones stopping traffic and getting on everybody’s nerves, thereby presenting the perfect opportunity for the govt and police to justify their draconian measures. Coincidentally.
I shall go in a bunch of six. Simple! Let’s make this the BIG one. Time is running out. Freedom window closing a bit if we stay home. Up and at ’em! as it were.
Indeed. Spread the word. I won’t be social distancing from anyone though. My conscience does not allow it. If they arrest us let everyone see them for the thugs they are.
Love, Honour, DISobey!
Bravo! Spot On.
No mention above of the ‘army’ of ‘Covid Secure Marshalls’ to maintain anti-social distancing – is this what the imported, migrant boat people (ISIS) are for? armed? – who the fuck and why the fuck are these people being allowed into the country and housed in plenty of south coast hotels???
What is going on here and why are ‘the people’ being blamed for the increase in totally false cases?
This looks increasingly now like a physical and psychological WAR against the English people ….. it has NEVER been about a virus …. there is no pandemic – and the regime is totally out of control and yet the majority comply with no formal political opposition ….. you have been warned
The question to ask is what would measures or actions would lessen such controls?
For the last fucking time: There is no such thing as Covid.
LivingsB, please, please do not muddy the waters. Covid Corvis is a virus family popularly known as Bird Flu (from the Latin Corvis or the Scots Corvi, a crow). Covid-19 was a member of this family, never dangerous and now vanished – except for a few samples kept for study in the laboratory.
What you mean to say is, I suggest: “There is no such thing as Con-19”. Con-19 is my name for a blockbuster Disaster Medicine Shlock Movie that is sweeping the world; an AZC Production, from the same studio that brought you Disaster Explosion Shlock Movie Con-911.
Viruses don’t exist at all….well not as we are taught in schools…..GNM has many answers….
Covid stands for “Certificate of Vaccination I.D.” This is what its all about.
Never say “last time”, you’ll probably have to say it a lot more times yet.
https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
“Racist Covid?”Avoids Africa/ Latino Imigrants Like Trump/ Environmental Record Trumps Nobel?/ Watch Out – Alexa In Rentals and Hotels/ Tips On Flying Maskless Now/
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you can now see why they had to get rid of Jeremy Corbyn.
Why? JC is playing the Covid19 game, even proudly wears a mask, he has said fuck all about the harms being done and the idiotic insanity of the govt, you sure you got the right Corbyn? His brother Piers Corybyn has been on the front line protesting this nonesene, Do you think a man playing the covid game now, would not do if elected into power? We will never know but todays evidence shows that he, along with other lefties whom I admired to high heavens have rolled over faster than a dog expecting to have its belly tickled. Here Plaid Cymru are trying to muzzle their own voters, by making masks mandatory, which has woken quite a few here up to what a fascist party Plaid really is, silver lining being the despots in PC have shot themselves in the foot over this, also worth pointing out, Our first… Read more »
JC tweeted his support for ‘zero covid’ today. He’s fully on-board.
Math, the CDC way:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/new-revelations-on-the-covid-death-count_GSGLXySLKU6JtCn.html