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WATCH: Justice Rising – 9/11 Truth Conference Day 2

SCIENCE SATURDAY – The second of three days of video conferences and talks on the key topics of 9/11 truth focuses on physical evidence, research and scientific papers.

Timecodes:

  • 00:00:00 – “Lights, Camera, Building 7” with Dylan Avery and Kelly David, with Leroy Hulsey, PhD
  • 01:00:00 – “Global Failure: Evidence Engineers Can No Longer Ignore” with Richard Gage and Roland Angle
  • 02:08:00 – “Three Pioneers of the 9/11 Truth Movement Reflect” with David Ray Griffin, Niels Harrit, and Steven Jones

At one point David references Philip Roddis’s review of his book 9/11 Unmasked as being a great example of a former believer in the official story openly and honestly admitting he has been wrong and the ‘conspiracy theorists’ maybe have a point.

The concluding day – Big Picture Sunday – will be livestreamed today on the Architects and Engineers youtube channel from 6pm to 9pm EDT. We’ll also be posting the completed videos here for people around the world in different timezones. You can watch the first day, Justice Friday, here.

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MerryWhat?
MerryWhat?
Sep 14, 2020 3:52 PM

/gatecrashing with a new* improved pitchfork

hey, is this the place where we bash Assange and China?

also, folks, remember that Venezuela, due their inability to contain Covid-19, is a global health risk and we must save them from themselves.

and we are taking meddling in our elections very seriously and we are allocating new funds for more nuclear bombers.

  • the new pitchfork comes connected to the Internet, with its own app for easy remote control. It has its own cameras and microphones, and we take your privacy seriously. no knocking around
Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 14, 2020 12:37 PM

Of course, nowhere is the BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM alluded to in the slightest.

The big fat lie that 3,000 died and 6,000 were injured on 9/11.

Veronica
Veronica
Sep 14, 2020 9:48 AM

Thanks to OffG for hosting these live-streams! So much useful information in them. So good to connect.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 14, 2020 7:01 AM

How Event Covid and 9/11 are a continuum.

If you’ve not listened to Day 2 of the Justice Rising – 9/11 Truth Conference, the must-listen bit begins at 02:17:00 – just after the two hour fifteen mark.
It’s a great debate with Niels Harrit, David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones — and hosted by Richard Gage.

One memorable quote: Harrit says that we have become the terrorists. The War on Terror has morphed into war on us. That is the evolution from 9/11 to Event Covid.:

“But I’m not ill.”
‘Yes you are, you tested positive.’
“But I’m perfectly health. I’m not sick.”
‘Yes you are. You are the terrorist so go in the quarantine.’

Harrit: WW3 started 19 years ago and the 9/11 was the start of it all. The kids coming out of school have never known peace. Covid-19 is as much a false flag as can be.

The debate starts here: https://youtu.be/gZu6j5XtbsY?t=8287

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 14, 2020 8:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Niels Harrit is a tour de force. He presents his latest research into the gases detected in ground zero that point to the use of polymers to create gas and thrust during the explosion of thermite.

Harrit starts by commenting on the connections of 9/11 and Event Covid.

“Science is breaking down. We are past evidence. In some ways we have been bombed back before Galileo and 9/11 is a prime example of that. Anyone can count to three. There were two airliners and three buildings.” — Niels Harrit.

“We are the modern equivalent of heretics.” — Niels Harrit

“The common denominator is fear. All power is based on fear. The powers that be love terror and they love pandemics because it allows them to force conformity on society that is not to the good.” — Niels Harrit

The release of gases from the ruins of the WTC remains a mystery: For months there were eruptions like geysers of gas on specific days, uncommon gases in huge and unusual quantities, benzene, styrene, toluene and 1,3-diphenyl propane. We still don’t know why that should be there. (It is produced by the breakdown of polymer aka plastic).

Classical explosives are not very energetic: dynamite or molecular explosives, the key is they are fast. The conventional thermite is very slow but with nanotechnology you can speed that up. By embedding thermite in a polymer, the polymer provides the gas which is the condition for moving things, just like in a rocket. (Contrary to what the MSM says, thermite, like hydroxychloroqine, is not new. Thermite dates from 1893. What is relatively new is nano-thermite. This was developed by Los Alamos National Laboratory.)

That is what is giving the thrust to all the material being thrown out of the Twin Towers, which is so in-your-face. All these pieces of ejected building materials are trailing after them a homogeneous white smoke. This is aluminum oxide. In order to have a coherent picture of the Twin Towers you need ordinary explosives (molecular or thermetic), then thermate which is evidenced by Jonathan Barnett’s research finding sulphidation of steel which is irrefutable proof of the existence of thermite. Third you need nano-thermite. The thermite is used for cutting the columns at the base and the explosions are throughout the building.

Ten years ago I introduced this hypothesis but I always wondered how they triggered the thermite. The destruction zone is moving at gravitational acceleration because they had to hide what was happening inside. The explosions need to progress down the building at the same speed as the falling debris. But if you watch carefully you can see the explosions.

That is why you need three energetic materials to make a coherent model of the collapse of the Twin Towers. Once you know that it is in your face. All the white stuff is aluminum oxide. That is where the environmental chemicals come in, particularly the 1,3-diphenyl propane. We still don’t know what polymer (plastic) that comes from. That is the key to understanding the thrust. Classical thermite cannot move things. So you need the production of gas and that is where the 1,3-diphenyl propane comes in and we still don’t know what polymer that came from.

David Ray Griffin gives Off-Guardian a mention along with Philip Roddis at 02:31:00. As the leading author on 9/11, theologian and philosopher DRG gives a guide to his books.

DRG’s books have make clear that Vice President Dick Cheney was responsible for 9/11. The government was run by Cheney. “Bush was in the basement doing exercises.”

Steven Jones: “The transformation that started with 9/11 is accelerating with Covid. The scare mongering is the same as went on with 9/11. The Global Reset and the idea that we’ll never get back to before, is the same they said at 9/11. We can do something about it if we educate ourselves.”

Steven Jones published a paper in Europhysics news, 15 years later: On the Physics of High-Rise Building Collapses, (Aug 2016, PDF) that’s had over one million view – by far the most widely-read paper ever published by the leading European journal.
The attacks on freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, the mandates are trampling on our freedoms. This new normal, this reset, this new world order is not a good thing. Truth and freedom go together.

Richard Gage does a great job managing the conference in the conditions of Event Covid with everyone stuck at home.

At several points, Richard becomes emotional and clearly very happy 😉 at bringing the group together. It just goes to show that being a 9/11 Truth warrior can be, for much of the time, a lonely business.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 14, 2020 9:02 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Chemistry with Niels continues. He suggests two experiments he never did before he retired.

Ground Zero gases and in particular 1,3-diphenyl propane. This needs to be heated and studied under a mass spectrometer. You need access to thermite chips from ground zero.

The other area of pressing research is Carbon nanotubes.

Carbon nanotubes were found by Mount Sinai hospital in the lung tissue of firefighters. The control group was construction workers who had no such presence. These tubes are extremely thin but 200 times stronger than spider web.

Haritt says it suddenly hit him: to make carbon nanotubes you must have three conditions: a source of carbon atoms (which is in the polymer and found in the thermite chips from Ground Zero), high temperature and you need a catalyst, and iron and nickel are about the best.

This, he says, is the connection between the first responders who are dying from lung disease in huge numbers and the nano-thermite.

Civics with Niels. A viewer asks, what is it that stops people processing what happened on 9/11 and in Event Covit?

“That is due to the tribe which is the most important unit in society, it even overrules the family. I believe it is in genetics because if homo sapiens was not ready to submit to the tribe he would not survive. So it is in homo sapiens’ nature to have a leader, to give that leader responsibility for us and to trust him or her.

“If the leader fails or is obviously a tyrant, it hurts. It simply hurts you. It is painful to realize that the person we have given responsibility for our security betrays us. It hurts.

“You retreat from that thought, “because it hurts”, and you go along with the other sheep in the tribe.

“We have experienced social exclusion, though it’s nothing compared to the middle ages when the conspiracy theorists of the day were called heretics and were burned at the stake. It almost happened to Galileo. He just escaped the bonfire by saying the earth is standing still in the middle of the universe. We are the heretics of our time. We are telling the truth and we are thinking the forbidden thoughts.”

The Catholic Church in 1616 forbade people to think that the earth is moving around the sun. And that was the basis for pulling Galileo before the Inquisition in 1633.

Before we sneer at the seventeenth century church, consider that today, you cannot even criticize the concept of Americanism.

David Ray Griffin said: “I wrote a theological book on 9/11 and that ended with the heads of the publishing house that accepted my manuscript being fired. I could publish books criticizing Calvin but theology is one thing and Americanism is another. They could not accept my criticism of America as perfect… We are exceptional but not necessarily in a good way.”

Norcal
Norcal
Sep 14, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Let’s see Moneycircus, nanothermite was developed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and weaponized alteration by Dr. Alton Orschner and here (my conjecture) when will the populace create enough pressure to thoroughly investigate bio crimes within American science? 

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 14, 2020 4:25 PM
Reply to  Norcal

If nanothermite was used, this does not mean that fanatical Islamist terrorists did not kill themselves on behalf of a religious war against infidels. The terrorists’ religious hate and racism caused the atrocity, not any nanothermite. The related and deeply disturbing issue is why the CIA, or at least rogue elements within US intelligence, would want to help Islamists kill fellow Americans more effectively.

History repeats
History repeats
Sep 17, 2020 8:04 PM

The nanothermite is not the only evidence for Israel. The fact that they had prior knowledge of the attacks and had spies recording the attack in NJ(caught and later sent back to Israel) are a few points. Read Solving 911 by Christopher Bollyn to see how the nanothermite was tied to Israel, and more very important evidence.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 14, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“The Catholic Church in 1616 forbade people to think that the earth is moving around the sun.”

Indeed. Today, the scientific establishment forbids people from thinking that the earth is not threatened by humans. The Inquisition has gone, but new punishments have appeared: to silence critics and rivals, and so maintain their authority and superior status, elitist expert advisors and establishment scientists (the modern priesthood) can adopt deplatforming, blacklisting, research defunding, public shaming and character assassination. I explain thus in more detail here:

https://medium.com/@nickhunt_41682/how-not-to-become-a-climate-crisis-fear-monger-e6cf65168c21

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 5:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Exceptional but not necessarily in a good way.”

Yes. The meritocracy of America, capitalism, consumption as an economic model and the free markets are all myths. The markets are rigged just like the elections, the financial malfeasance is simply fraud and outright theft and there’s almost no economic mobility in the US or within capitalism itself because only those close to the usury spigot get access to capital, ie; families within the cryptocracy.

The cryptocracy consist entirely of inherited wealth and power with unfettered access to more wealth and power through their proximity to the money printing, fraud and the markets, their network of universities (Rhodes and Fulbright Scholarships) expensive schools and enclaves, genealogical and social clubs.

The American dream is the biggest con ever sold, other than religion, which was/is used to divide humans into opposing groups and elicit fear, obedience and conformity.

MLS
MLS
Sep 14, 2020 9:43 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I found the reunion of those three giants of the movement very emotional!

elsewhere
elsewhere
Sep 14, 2020 5:50 AM

Slightly OT: Another example of the MSM biais & tactics:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/09/13/tale-two-mass-gatherings-sturgis-super-spreader-bike-rally-vs-black-lives-matter-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protests/

“In early August, an estimated 460,000 motorcyclists took part in the annual pilgrimage to South Dakota. The Sturgis Biker Rally, which has been a major draw since 1938, is a 10-day event that generates hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, much of it made on alcohol-fueled fun and revelry. In other words, as the party poopers would say, the ideal conditions for a deadly virus to sweep through a broad swath of the population, leaving behind incalculable loss of life in its wake.
So now that the coronavirus has surpassed its Sturgis incubation period, how many reckless bikers lost their lives for not honoring social-distancing protocols at crowded hotspots for multiple days and nights on end? You may want to have a seat, this will shock you. The current death rate stands at just one (1) person. That’s right, as USA Today reported, the unidentified victim was a “Minnesota man…in his 60s and had underlying health conditions.” In other words, not exactly the sort of outcome one would expect under a code-red pandemic.
Nevertheless, a study by the IZA Institute of Labor Economics (which receives its funding, oddly enough, from Deutsche Post) has described the biker rally as a coronavirus “super spreading event” that led to an estimated $12.2 billion in public health costs.”

“By way of experiment, do a Google search for ‘black lives matter covid super spreader.’ The result shows one article after another asserting that the months-long protest movement, which continues to see random acts of violence flare up across the country, did nothing to contribute to an uptick in Covid infections. In fact, the third offering by the search monster is an article by The Colorado Sun with a headline declaring ‘Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus…’”

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 14, 2020 4:33 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

Will Boris enforce any ban against more than 6 BLM or XR protestors in the streets? Of course not! Their causes are just and much more noble than returning freedom to the dumb, taxpaying gammons (also, both radical groups are so very popular among the ‘educated’ children of the professional classes and media people who surround and influence our ruling elite. Ask Carrie).

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 14, 2020 5:45 AM

The CIA trained hundreds of Jihadis imported through Saudi Arabia on main land USA for later ME usage – deniable cannon fodder. US Jeddah consular officer Micheal Springmann complained about this but was fired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Springmann
Then 19 of them went unexpectedly “freelancing” on NYC airports.
For WTC7: a few others could have worked on the ground with explosives – they were trained for that. That building was 80% occupied by Salomon Brothers, 1?% CIA.
Straight after 9/11 all holding Saudi papers were flown out of the US, while anybody else was grounded. https://www.salon.com/2004/03/11/unger_1/

After the CIA hid their own Jihadi program on US main land even more, while the FBI hid their non detection of this Jihadi 9/11 plot.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Sep 14, 2020 4:50 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Useful links, thanks. But was the CIA training of 100s of Jihadis done with the knowledge of Congress and presidency? I’d say not, which means that ‘the US State’ was secretly used by unnamed, undemocratic elements to benefit their own agenda (perhaps the military industrial complex, the Neo-cons and corporations who profit from endless war). Blaming ‘the USA’, democracy and ordinary Americans as a whole then becomes a very grave injustice, like blaming all ordinary Muslims for Islamist atrocities.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 14, 2020 5:05 AM

So Matt Hancock when did you become aware of this Mass Extinction Event, and then became Top Man?

How did you do it?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/how-did-britain-get-its-response-to-coronavirus-so-wrong

You even featured yourself as top man out of a scene in George Orwell’s 1984.

John Hurt would be impressed.

What have you got planned for us next Mein Führer?

Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 14, 2020 3:17 AM

It’s going to be 30 Degrees later today in London, and we have already got the Paddling Pool Out

We have got 2 Grandparents – My Wife and I

2 Parents – My Son and Their Mum

2 Grandchildren.

My oldest Grandchild will almost certainly want his new 4 year old girlfriend to come round too who he met at school last week (30 degrees is too hot for school)

But that will make 7

If the Police come round that will make 11

And we are only allowed 6.

Matt Hancock made these New Rules up – cos someone called him a Stupid C’nt. Will I have to pay him £10,000 if my Grandson’s 4 year old Girlfriend comes round too?

Number 6 and we are O.K?

“The Prisoner ~ Opening Sequence”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLg-7G0Xp0

Is anyone going to complain?

They didn’t last time, and we were in Full Lockdown then.

No one took any notice and we were loud. Kids splashing in a paddling pool – what more fun can you have?

We might even have a water pistol fight.

We have done it before with no harm, except I got a bit wet.

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next

Wake Up

Tony

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Sep 14, 2020 3:05 AM

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The Antidote To Twitter – Brighteon.Social – No Censorship

Orhell
Orhell
Sep 14, 2020 1:41 AM

Go to Youtube and search for “FUNNIEST TRUMP CAN’T WIN COMPILATION”
What is the relevance? Well an alpha will always think about the history of ‘authorities’ and individuals linked to said ‘authorities’ when said cabal is attempting to present a consistent argument to the masses, as with Blair’s 9/11 event or the current plague false-flag.

You see, here’s something this site NEVER focuses on. ‘Shoot the messenger’ is not a valid counter argument if the messenger and the body that issues the messenger has provably lied about every major thing that matters.

The Youtube video perfectly captures all the news organisations and all the spokespeople and all the celebs and all the party managers showing themselves to be utter clueless morons- IN PUBLIC. And each of these requires YOU have the memory of a goldfish when they are pushing their current agenda (global warming, BLM, the plague, etc).

Team Blair, Soros, Gates and all the lowers that serve them have form. Form that allows us to instantly dismiss everything they claim. Without even considering the details of their claim.

Sadly it is an alpha concept that you notice the trustworthiness of an outlet- all betas are trained to focus on the current output of an outlet and laboriously try to dismiss each point with ‘argument’. The classic beta fallacy is that an outlet may be so powerful and vast, it can keep spewing insane numbers of lies in real-time, forever tying up the betas as they chase their tails trying to handle the load. It is the age old concept of “bury the fools with a giant pile of documents that will take forever to process, and keep sending more”.

Today, the ONLY relevance of 9/11 (once you accept the true facts- something that happened within a year of 9/11) is to remind you that the entities that pushed and push today Blair’s own conspiracy fairy-tale can be auto-dismissed as a propaganda lie machine, and nothing else.

Why can Vernon Coleman, in a series of astounding videos, focus on where we are going, and this site cannot (or more importantly will not)? But then an ‘opposition’ that merely wants their team to be ‘king’ in simple replacement of the current ‘king’ will never attack the power structure and all its toys they hope to inherit undamaged.

Our problem is NOT who is at the top today, but that the entire West is a fabian crafted power structure designed exclusively for monsters. As it became more perfect (as a consequence of computer tech advances), it was always going to cast off all pretence eventually.

smoely1
smoely1
Sep 14, 2020 2:05 AM
Reply to  Orhell

its not what either side wants, it is that whatever is to be the power to govern must be just, honest, open in expression, forthright, and harsh on those who engage corruption and it must allow those it governs to bring those who govern to justice in a court that has no dependence on the power that governs when the just become unjust.

Good governance is a two way street.. those who govern must not be allowed to govern in secret, nor govern with a private or un-authentic agenda , but must govern by directing their leadership abilities, to accommodate and coordinate the needs and wants of the masses it governs, Failure be either side should result in penalty, the masses for violating the laws made by justice, and the governors for their corruption of purpose of infringements against the constitution from which they derive their powers. We are all entitled to an equal opportunity, but only a few of us have the substance required to consummate the opportunity. These burden of those few gifted is that they belong to the masses, not to the elite.. or to the corrupt.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Sep 14, 2020 6:46 AM
Reply to  Orhell

Powerful post by Orhell, and powerfully seconded by Smoely. The whole tree is rotten, it must be extirpated Root and Branch.

Aux armes, Citoyens!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 14, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Orhell

Who are these “alphas” and “betas”; and which do you claim to be?

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 14, 2020 6:42 PM
Reply to  Orhell

You are missing the point.

It’s capitalism and usury itself that is the problem. The money spigot. Money is the root of all evil of it’s not used to benefit humanity, but instead, to exploit humanity. That is where this all begins. Not with the West, but with usury.

Start with the top of the pyramid: The central banks.

1. Take control of the central banks. Nationalize the banks.

2. Freeze the assets of all the people involved including the generals and politicians. They’ll sign all the confessions you wish. They are weak, ignorant cowards.

3. Replace the hierarchy, organizations and NGOs with laws that protect the people, and transfer the corporations into worker and customer owned entities.

Decapitate the King = cash. Then their whole chess game falls apart.

RobG
RobG
Sep 13, 2020 11:55 PM

Some demonstrations are apparently ok…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/13/belarus-100000-join-rally-against-lukashenko-on-eve-of-putin-showdown

To all those Down Under, don’t despair. There was quite a big turn-out in NZ.

Things will reach a tipping point over the next month or so.

Don’t get angry with the shuffling, mask wearing, fear-laden folks.

The level of propaganda at the moment is just unbelievable.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 14, 2020 1:40 AM
Reply to  RobG

RobG,

“The level of propaganda at the moment is just unbelievable.”

I try to rise above it, but sometimes, like today, it gets to me.

I just try and think “This can’t be happening” NOW, but it is.

From memory, I think I first came across you about 10 years ago on Craig Murray’s blog. You probably got banned a lot, and so did I.

I think you come from London, and are about 10 years younger than me and live in the South of France.

However, when I got a job in Manchester, at the age of 19, the first thing they did after a few months of the technical indoctrinaton, which was very largely to do about the design and manufacture of computers, was to ask if I would like to work in Bracknell, full expenses paid including 39p a mile.

I said O.K. – can I go on my Motorbike? Yes but You won’t get 39p a mile

This was 1972 Manchester to Bracknell Return – about 500 miles. That was very close to £200 and that was just expenses they were going to pay for my petrol, if I had a car.

Motorbike 0

Fortunately I had passed my car driving test too

The Ford Cortina Estate, cost me £35…when I got half way home, it stopped, cos there was a hole in the petrol tank. This annoyed me…So I stood out in Featherstall Road, Oldham – with my hands up. Within seconds a car stopped, and I explained. He took me home to get a can of petrol , and then took me back to my car, and we got it started. My Dad helped me change the petrol tank – not a nice job – rust.oil, petrol and sh1t in your face – but the job had to be done. It was the only way that I was going to have a car to drive to Bracknell and back several times – and stay in posh hotels…

(similar things still happen today – people doing anything they can to help you – they don’t charge and neither do I)

So we have probably been at the same place at the same time

I went to more Gigs in London, than I did in Manchester.

Still do. Well I managed a few this year – before all this COVID Bollocks went OTT

“The Clash – London Calling (Official Video)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfK-WX2pa8c

Never seen them, though I did meet Lemmy, and he lived on the River in a Barge on The Thames.

Lovely bloke.

I had a Girlfriend then too. She’s still here.

Tony

Fish & Chips
Fish & Chips
Sep 13, 2020 10:27 PM

Dancing Israelis.

Reported by locals, caught by the police, and eventually deported without any trial.

They admitted on Israeli TV their mission was to observe the attacks, it’s still on YouTube.

Israel either organised, or else aided and abetted this atrocity.

No doubt they had local help.

Some bastards shorted airlines and got very rich because they knew what was about to happen.

Some people got the call not to turn up at their 911 office that day.

It happened.

Thousands died.

I saw it with my own eyes.

Anything else is a dastardly Mossad PSYOPS disinfo campaign.

Stop fucking about, accept who’s responsible, and move on. We’ve got even bigger problems with the evil bastards today.

gordon
gordon
Sep 13, 2020 10:44 PM
Reply to  Fish & Chips

you got it sir you got it
steven jones mit he covered up the cold fusion discoveries of the 1980s
the 2 scientists run out of town with death threats
david ray griffin pollutes the well

no christopher bollyn

it nothin
it over it done
case closed

everything else is dung

PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the — let it hang out, so to speak?

DEAN: Well, it’s, it isn’t really that —
HALDEMAN: It’s a limited hang out.
DEAN: It’s a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It’s a modified limited hang out.

PRESIDENT: Well, it’s only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Sep 13, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  gordon

gordn’

donticriminateyourselfbypretendingyouknowwhatthefuckisgoingon

gordon
gordon
Sep 14, 2020 11:51 AM

i upticked you captain meathead
i nose nothing
what do you know
blood head?

MLS
MLS
Sep 14, 2020 9:45 AM
Reply to  gordon

Steven Jones is not from MIT and did not cover up cold fusion. In fact he coined the term and was a pioneer in the field. You have been reading the propaganda and disinformation put out about him by shills such as Judy Wood

gordon
gordon
Sep 14, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  MLS

brigham young jones is just like paateur like marconi a a thief fraud a cheat an insider

Watt
Watt
Sep 13, 2020 9:13 PM

Just leave this here.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 13, 2020 9:03 PM

https://incontrovertible911evidence.co.uk/

Great intro. Not seen more than the first few minutes yet.

” INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media’s propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001.

This film is intended to be viewed by Police Officers, Firefighters and all those serving in the Armed Forces as they are the among the best placed members of our society to have the ability to change things for the better. If you have friends or family who are serving then please pass this film onto them.

Tony Rooke and Brian Maxwell interviewed on INFOWARS

Tony and Brian were interviewed on Infowars Nightly News about the film INCONTROVERTIBLE and Brian’s resignation.

INFOWARS interview on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjoQtYwCiSo&t=1382

INCONTROVERTIBLE bite size released “

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 13, 2020 10:43 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Great Film. I have watched nearly an hour of it, but I can’t take any more at the moment. I do recognise the narrators voice – Michael Culver. Probably seen him on stage in London. He is 82 now.

I would also recommend

“This is an Orange” (2 mins 18 seconds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1u6qZyQ4w

I recognise his voice too. He used to do voice over for ads in the UK. He died a few years ago. I think he came from Australia. His name is Anthony Lawson

Tony

Ann Caddigan
Ann Caddigan
Sep 14, 2020 3:56 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Hey everyone, send this link to the film “Incontrovertible “ to every contact in your address book …. AT LEAST! Thank you t.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 13, 2020 8:18 PM

This is a song that I think is the only one that can possibly do justice to the victims of 9/11.

It may sound pat to say it, but this song was written by a singer who lived the life every bit as tragic as that of Van Gogh before she died at 35 and yet her music has been compared to that of Bach. Her words have the touch of William Blake.

Judee Sill could have written these words for those who died in the Towers.

Love rising from the mists
Promise me this and only this
Holy breath touching me, like a wind song
Sweet communion of a kiss

Sun sifting through the grey
Enter in, reach me with a ray
Silently swooping down, just to show me
How to give my heart away

Once a crystal choir
Appeared while I was sleeping
And called my name
And when they came down nearer
Saying, “Dying is done,”
Then a new song was sung
Until somewhere we breathed as one
And still I hear their whisper

Stars bursting in the sky
Hear the sad nova’s dying cry
Shimmering memory, come and hold me
While you show me how to fly

Sun sifting through the grey
Enter in, reach me with a ray
Silently swooping down, just to show me
How to give my heart away

Lately sparkling hosts
Come fill my dreams, descending
On fiery beams
I’ve seen ’em come clear down
Where our poor bodies lay
Soothe us gently and say
“Gonna wipe all your tears away”
And still I hear their whisper

Love, rising from the mists
Promise me this and only this
Holy breath touching me, like a wind song
Sweet communion of a kiss

Cyd
Cyd
Sep 13, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Wow moneycircus, thank you.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Sep 13, 2020 7:54 PM

Great response a couple of years ago to Philip Roddis (who to be honest I had never heard of, until I started reading Off-G) Is he some kind of authority on anything?

https://off-guardian.org/2018/09/10/9-11-unmasked-roddis-review/#comment-4888

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 14, 2020 9:11 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Philip is a decent guy who I think may be described as on the “mainstream Left”.

Re: 9/11, he initially rejected alternative views but was big enough to come round to accept that it wasn’t what it was presented as – although I think he still backs off from the “hard” interpretation i.e. what used to be called MIHOP (make it happen on purpose) and he subscribes to the notion that the incident came about through a defence “stand down” or LIHOP (let it happen on purpose). I don’t think that the latter is even sensible in that forces within the US govt wanted a spectacular effect on 9/11 and could never have guaranteed such a show purely through relying on an external force. (Many of the anomalies around the JFK assassination indicate a botched job and show that even a single assassination presents the most worrying problems for the perpetrators.) In any case LIHOP, although it may look like a radical point of view, doesn’t present a real threat to the mainstream view since it still plays into the notion that America has seriously powerful enemies out there. Indeed, the MSM itself came to surreptitiously adopt LIHOP in the rumour that “Bush knew”.

Re: COVID, Philip is of the opinion that it is a true and deadly virus that was unforeseen by the PTB and therefore represents a serious threat to the capitalist system. Although again he has been generous enough to allow the occasional opposing article on his website. I have had exchanges with him many times – once acrimoniously which I regret. Indeed, that is an issue he is much concerned with i.e. the often-vituperative level the argument reaches in various quarters. Naturally, given his stance, he feels most of the aggression comes from the skeptical side. I have pointed out to him that the mainstream side have their own aggression which is of a different sort i.e. because it is mainstream, it can afford to take a haughty air of “objectivity”.

Perhaps the biggest difference between Philip’s mainstream Left position and that of some of the skeptics is that the former admits that the pre-COVID situation was already untenable. The Western capitalist system was already in serious  trouble and headed towards a crash. Some of the skeptics think we could carry on regardless. It is no doubt an indication of our Western affluence that most of us think the world we were living in and continue to live in (albeit it with a growing sense of unease) could simply carry on indefinitely.

I visit Philip’s site regularly and sometimes contribute but I don’t push the COVID matter with him since there would be little point in provoking an unproductive tension. As an attempt at rapprochement, you might say that, whether COVID was an unforeseen catalyst or a “pre-emptive strike”, we are now in a “liquid” situation that was unavoidable anyway.

But then again, as a skeptic, I think the true nature of the COVID narrative is important i.e. whether COVID is a weakness or a wielded tool of the capitalist system.