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The Great Reset

John Griffin

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ASSESSMENT REPORT #5 (Final): GALACTIC INNER PERIPHERY ARCHIVE

Excellency,

As Sol transits the Dark zone, we expect a further deterioration in the expression of consciousness of some of the planetary beings. Those on Sphere 3 — a superlative creation utilizing all the material elements in intricate harmonic levels (see Appendix 1: Earth) — are particularly vulnerable.

The decline there is now about ten thousand solar years long and has followed a well-established pattern. As you know, the structure of these beings is dual, consisting of a material body and associated mind or soul, Sol’s light acting as a conduit to carry and so manifest the ever-unfolding expression of this star’s nature (Appendix 2: The Human Constitution and Participative Perception).

The attenuation of this conduit, which connects to the heart of the being and is its highest faculty or spirit, has led to the following — at times amusing — outcomes.

First, there was a movement away from a close harmony with Earth, and an inclination to dismantle and rearrange it.

(Appendix 3: Into the Dark, Nature as Other covers the transition to a sedentary existence, elaborate artificial dwellings and body coverings, producing food rather than collecting it, over-valuing materiality, ownership of parts of the planet, an aberrant social hierarchy and destructive technology, knowing replaced by beliefs, increasingly extravagant visual and auditory art forms, reliance on written symbolic communication, and so forth.)

At this stage not all beings were adversely affected. A minority were able to preserve a knowledge of the operation of the Sun by making it the hidden kernel of various artistic, literary and religious traditions (see Appendix 4: The Emerald Tablet of Hermes, Plato’s Allegory of the Sun, and the Gayatri Mantra).

Nostalgia for what was, and an inner sense of decline and an instinctive aversion to it, were also instilled in the psyche (see Appendix 5: Imprinting the Sacred, from Golden Age to Iron Age). However, this only forestalled the inevitable.

Collapse of even a belief in the highest faculty started around 500 years ago. It left a being divorced from Reality and the accession of the normally subservient reasoning faculty. Left floundering, the beings hailed this turn of events as a Renaissance, and with their attention turned away from ‘heaven’, began developing their physical and mental proclivities in earnest.

This inculcated a novel system — the utilization of the senses and reason alone in an attempt to fathom the now-forgotten essence of Nature (see Appendix 6: Science, the Wayward Path).

Truth, Goodness and Beauty waned; belief in an inert Nature prevailed; obsession with materiality grew. The higher faculty, the true potentiality of humanity, and a sentient universe were re-categorized as ‘magical thinking’.

Science proceeds by the comparing of one thing with another. Parts of the material universe are made into apparatus, which are then used to measure other parts. Essence remains undiscovered of course. But this method drives the creation of increasingly elaborate tools which allow an increasingly powerful analysis of matter. This machine technology of ever more sophisticated range has led to devices that can render the ecosphere dysfunctional, and instruments that disrupt human mentation.

The system which used elements rare on Earth, such as gold and silver, to represent and facilitate the exchange of material goods, was commandeered by those most obsessed by materiality. The substitution of paper allowed the established practice of usury to be greatly enhanced, enabling wealth to migrate into fewer and fewer hands (see Appendix 7: The Fractional Reserve System, the Great Banking Families, and Three Centuries of Market Manipulation).

A further stage, now underway, is the substitution of paper money with invisible digital money, allowing the very wealthy to syphon off even the little still owned by the rest. The most serious aspect of the sustained attempt by a minority to own the planet is the alignment of great wealth with innovative science, since it portends an amoral class of beings with vast destructive power. (Appendix 8: The Appropriation of Earth’s Resources and All Artefacts by the Few, and Appendix 9: Evolution of the Technological Means to Control Human Thinking and Emotion.)

You ask about the small green island toward one pole, and especially of the mystics who reside there. There are none now. Those who had direct experience of the Light were replaced in the last hundred years by those who only spoke of it (see Appendix 10: William Blake, the Scientific Enterprise, and the Eclipse of Mystic Consciousness).

Further, the obscuring of the Light led, two hundred and fifty years ago, to a proposal to override that hierarchy which, operating correctly, is a reflection in the collective sphere of that found in the individual being. Some inhabitants of the island who had ventured over the sea and established a colony on a continent there, replaced the monarchical system with a form of Rule by the People. Much effort was made to ensure its success.

It didn’t work. Since the majority elect a few to represent them, they inevitably choose those of a similar consciousness. Hence, the tendency of democracy has been ever downward, towards a Rule by the Fools (see Appendix 11: Guénon’s Reign of Quantity Applied to Forms of Government).

Notwithstanding this failing, the colony has maintained its self-belief, and is more or less heedless of the interests of those not inhabiting its area of Earth. Its imperialism is the chief cause of disharmony.

In the island you revered, and elsewhere, the various propensities indicated above have almost reached a nadir. Belief in the higher realities has all but disappeared, hence the education systems are defective. The rational faculty is starting to erode, leaving only instinctive emotion and sense experience as motivating factors.

The antics of members of the governing bodies resemble the court fools of the era you experienced, absent a hidden wisdom, with the mental proclivities, demeanor and even countenance of the juvenile form of the beings (see Appendix 12: Contemporary Government, Psychopathy and Infantilism). Insight, empathy and goodwill are missing; they have adopted the inclinations of the monied class.

As this report is being assembled there is an attempt to utilize the activity of a microorganism to subjugate by instilling fear and disrupting all social functioning (see Appendix 13: The Role of Viruses in Homeostasis and the Natural Mortality of Earth’s Lifeforms, and Appendix 14: Psychological Methods for Human Control).

Some more perceptive beings speculate that the goal is to instigate an inversion of the current order, whereby a minority of materialist imbeciles impose a tyranny over the rest.

However, the level of coercion and violence perpetrated on the majority, the drive to introduce substances that could initiate extreme mutagenesis, and the instigation of a global artificial intelligence technology that would make the beings redundant, suggests an eclipse of the remaining mental functioning. We believe there has been a rupture in the boundary between the physical world and the infernal and that non-human forces have begun to infiltrate.

As you know, the final stage of Sol’s transit means that no information reaches us, after which there is a nearly instantaneous reset to normality. The beings will be alone during this time. Given the unusual circumstances pertaining at present, there is a chance they will be overwhelmed, which means a complete disruption of the soul, and Earth dying away. As the poet says, “The fire of suns makes and unmakes worlds, and even the most beauteous lights therein are extinguished.”

As in the previous occurrences, the deeply instilled ideas of the Good, of the forces of Darkness, of spiritual struggle, should provide momentum sufficient to carry them through.

Nevertheless, we agree with your view. Compassion dictates some form of revelation. To this end we propose to have this report (modified as necessary to conform with the conscious state of the beings) disseminated. Forums are limited, but it can be inserted within one of the remaining broadcast media in which truth is tolerated.

No more than a breath upon the remnant Light that flickers in memory, it may assist in awakening the necessary resistance.

We await the exit of Sol from the Dark zone, the great Reset, and the reinstatement of the Golden Age.

— Chief Researcher/Archivist, Outer Periphery Records.

——— REPORT ENDS ———

John Lord Griffin is a philosopher, artist and farmer, currently living in Portugal. His books include On the Origin of Beauty and Javali with Oranges.

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Jamesq
Jamesq
Oct 22, 2020 3:33 PM

testing

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Oct 14, 2020 7:57 AM

In the the Hitchhiker’s Guide To The GalaxyEarth is described as Mostly Harmless

I think this is a very good description of Covid
Mostly Harmless

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 10:21 PM

Searching for some explanation as to why the lockdown is being portrayed as a victory for “the people”, I stumbled on this: https://bylinetimes.com/2020/10/09/covid-19-and-the-end-of-economic-fatalism/ “COVID-19 & the End of Economic Fatalism” It consists largely of a hugely repetitive and monotonous recounting of the rise of neoliberalism which few are going to disagree with. But there is a curious spin on it. The fatalistic approach (“There Is No Alternative” or TINA) is hugely emphasised. And the reason isn’t difficult to see: we hear that Reagan and Thatcher’s “approach would have meant treating the Coronavirus as another market force until the public achieved ‘herd immunity’; to “take it on the chin” as Boris Johnson said when he first addressed it as a major issue. This is also what the US President wanted.” So, the associations have been clearly outlined: evil neoliberalism associated with TINA which is further linked in with … “ignoring” all… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 14, 2020 9:49 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s quite brilliant really. We had 40 years of fatalistic neoliberalism which was enormously unpopular but that didn’t matter a damn since the govt and the media were under the control (as they always are) of the rich. For 40 years, the plebs had to just put up even if they didn’t have to shut up. After all: There Is No Alternative! But now: COVID arrives as the death knell for neoliberalism i.e. it is the virus/lockdown conjunction that appears as the no-longer-forbidden alternative. And so those who deny COVID and oppose the lockdown are the new fatalistic neoliberals. And to sell this story, we are asked to believe that an accumulation of previously impotent rebellions (political, feminist, environmentalist) have suddenly coalesced into an irresistible force – aided of course by COVID. And even though some political leaders (most notably Trump and Johnson) can still be presented as evil neoliberal… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 7:14 PM

It’s getting beyond the power of words to describe. Just caught the news again and it’s something like “There have been another 200 million COVID deaths in the last nanosecond!” And still the mainstream Left would have us believe the establishment is trying to hush it up!

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 16, 2020 11:26 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The WSWS seems to think they are driving the workers to the Covid slaughter and covering it up – whereas in the universe I inhabit, they talk of lockdowns, actually implement them at least some of the time, and there is hardly anything else in the news.

Spinky
Spinky
Oct 13, 2020 3:45 PM

I wanted to see the appendices.

Binra
Binra
Oct 13, 2020 1:00 PM

Narratives are invoked to usurp and mask over the unaccepted fact as a fiction under emotionally invested identity. If we give unto Caesar what IS due unto God, we trash ourselves while blaming Caesar (or God) for making us do it. Regardless the terminology I just used and your associations with it, putting first things first is the priority – and what we give priority to is given power for all else aligns to its purpose. Know your purpose in what you think and say and do. This perfection is not denied you, but is aligned in wholeness. If we want to get our house in order we have to prioritise. Disorder-by-design will say you cannot afford to deviate in such thinking, while deviating you in such thinking. It will threaten that you must do as it says or else! – while doing what it says it defends you from.… Read more »

Chris
Chris
Oct 13, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  Binra

You seem to know what you’re talking about.
Do you have any solutions to the challenges at hand?
I think we can, with focus and determination, provide adequate avenues for the exploration of new and better worlds.

Ich bin auch Ra!

Chris
Chris
Oct 13, 2020 1:50 PM
Reply to  Chris

I’m somewhat surprised at the lack of discussion regarding the monetary system and the energy sciences.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars comes to mind.

Binra
Binra
Oct 13, 2020 2:59 PM
Reply to  Chris

I know the purpose that moves me. Change and challenge are inherent to Life as growth in the sense of creative or qualitative expansion (not mere quantitative accumulation). To be defined by our problem is to subject ourselves to definitions we are unaware of having accepted and assigned. Focus has to be regained at heart, instead of framed in the complex of ‘problems’ that have in a sense piled up as a result of evasions masking as solutions. We don’t so much suffer skidding with modern computer assisted braking, but the principle for getting out of a skid is to steer into it – momentarily – to the recognition of traction regained. This is a sense of capacity to find the balance points within the experience of the car and the road and conditions. There is no time to think – all focus is present in act – and no other… Read more »

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:11 PM
Reply to  Chris

I can’t get Binra to go beyond verbiage. Good luck, Chris.

Rancid
Rancid
Oct 15, 2020 12:19 AM

A philosophical discourse always sounds impressive in its verbosity. In the end we all choose to believe as we do. If greed was not the driving force for so many then life would be better for most. Our purpose as Buddha articulated is not to accumulate the temporary but the develop the eternal.

The article hit on a few New Age concepts, most of these are very old concepts reinterpreted or misinterpreted to financialise various websites. If looking for “truth” then seek the older writings, its all there to discover if actually looking.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 15, 2020 1:58 AM
Reply to  Rancid

Choosing to believe is the problem!

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 12:55 PM

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/10/13/geco-o13.html “Coronavirus infections threaten Germany’s hospitals with overload Experts warn that hospitals in Germany are reaching their limits of capacity due to the dramatic increase in coronavirus infections. …a further significant increase and associated bottlenecks can be expected in the coming weeks…The rising number of infections inevitably leads to an increasing number of hospital admissions. The biggest problem is the lack of staff and completely overworked personnel…If there is a sharp increase in severe coronavirus cases, there will be bottlenecks in intensive care personnel,….As far as representatives of government and business are concerned, this situation is an opportunity to impose long-planned cuts. Last year, a study by the Bertelsmann Foundation demanded that the number of hospitals in Germany be halved.” https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/10/13/jobs-o13.html  “UK jobs cull continues as thousands more redundancies are announced UK employers planned almost 500,000 redundancies through restructuring programmes from April to August inclusive. The pandemic is having a… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 10:58 AM

I think we can safely assume that this lockdown will indeed continue as the “new norm” and that day by day, there will be an increasing sense of despair, isolation, a general disconnect that spreads towards every area of life and which infests the population constantly. I feel the strain all the time now. It’s like a psychic cloud enveloping me. And I think it’s time to stop thinking, “Oh it’s just me. It’s purely psychological. Things are different elsewhere.” Etc. The MSM whilst still attempting to show “a friendly face” is directly assaulting your very being. This is a constant domestic terrorism. And, the most devastating part, the “opposition” who you always thought you could rely on to stand up for you, to “give them hell!” etc. is not only joining in with the torture but embodies the most ferocious part of it.  

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 9:52 AM

So, I have just learned that David North, Trotskyite revolutionary of the WSWS is really one David Green, “CEO of Grand River Printing & Imaging, a company that earns 25 million dollars a year according to its website”. This latter info from here: http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=41918 Now Friedrich Engels was a wealthy industrialist but at least he had the decency to admit it – indeed it would not have occurred to him to hide it. So, what’s North/Green’s game? Now there is a WSWS document that drearily enumerates various points of divergence between them and former associates (something along the lines of “How We Found Out About Those Bastards In Our Midst”) In my naïve years I recall reading through it and there was a curious chapter about a Marxist group that turned out to be staffed almost entirely by young middle class students from the one mid-Western college. The bold WSWS… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 9:39 AM

Never underestimate the significance of informal chat. What people say to each other as “small talk” is often the most revealing (sometimes the only real) indication of what they really think. And this mode of discourse is now under serious threat in our new garrison culture where face-to-face communication is being replaced by those dismal computer linkup conferences. I have a work colleague who is a terrific practical guy but not what you’d call academically bright. But he is often more astute than those who are. A few years back on the build-up to an election he casually remarked to me, “It’s not going to matter a damn who you vote for”. And just before the lockdown relegated us all to computer screen matrix land, we were having a conversation about the virus and this colleague muttered, “…unless it’s all a con” before quickly moving on to something else. I… Read more »

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Our time is that of Computer Takeover. To counter the attendant self-induced dehumanization of it, I’d advocate for formation of small groupings that consciously work together, in-person, consensus-based, with daily administration. It would be slow, like the seasons.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 7:17 PM

Yeah but that’s not going to happen for as long as everyone thinks they’re going to die from even being on the same street as each other.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

There are some who aren’t afraid who can get the ball rolling. Anyone here on this thread?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Oct 13, 2020 2:58 AM

Excellency, these organisms must be contained they’re strangely both agressive and suicidal. Quite dangerous to all life forms and should be viewed as a threatening scourge or just another
virulent bacterium. We’ve noticed they’re learning to mutate via genetic editing hoping to transition into intergalactic environments. It’s imperative that this dangerous life form is stopped dead in its tracks……………

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Pathological insecurity drives their hoarding and sadism. Fortunately, contrary to their fairy tales, the planetary rariation belts keep them confined to the planet, at least for now.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Oct 13, 2020 11:43 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Close monitoring will be necessary to ensure all planetary belts remain intact.

richard
richard
Oct 13, 2020 2:32 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

I like these down to earth discussions… but not a lot.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 13, 2020 12:20 AM

Catholic Church is a member of the control cabal. On the screen where the nun speaks, is written “catholic relief services”!!!

A Dominican nun trained in “human-centered technology” who holds a PhD in engineering management from Cambridge regaling a room full of aspiring impact investors on how the Catholic church plans to be the conscience of big business in the coming decades.

a really evil woman ……

Even though she notes there are many peace and justice folks who believe wading into human capital impact investing is akin to taking up with the devil, well…circumstances require it, so better just get with the program.

https://youtu.be/cnwY3CtRFlg

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 1:42 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Of course, their pope is not even catholic… he’s crypto

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 13, 2020 5:41 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

crypto and psycho as well!

Someone
Someone
Oct 13, 2020 8:33 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Oh the pope is a complete fraud. He sells this progressive image now but anyone who was alive in Argentina during the military dictatorship knows who he really is.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 12, 2020 11:48 PM

I’ve found myself with some very strange bedfellows during this scamdemic, so to speak. I’ve had to completely reassess where I stand, politically, and who I would stand shoulder to shoulder with when push inevitably come to shove. For me, sacred cows have been slaughtered. And they needed slaughtering. At the core of it though, many of the innate understandings about the World that dawned on me when I was still a child have been confirmed, and the layers of bullshit that I had built up in my naivety and world weary bitterness have been thankfully washed away. I’ve learned an awful lot. I always knew that media whores were full of shit. I always knew that when it comes to power, there are no good guys. I always knew to keep asking difficult questions and to be prepared to assimilate answers that you don’t like. I always knew that… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:25 AM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

That was beautiful… And what do YOU do to keep your job and get on a bus, and shop… give a few examples… Us shameful (again), compliers… wanna be a hero? Go lecture and shame the people who got any power over this…
What are you 12?

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 13, 2020 11:27 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

You have power over what you do, to some extent, and that’s it. I have the will to carry my life on as normally as possible and treat the scam for what it is rather than asking “how high?” when I’m told to jump. So does everybody, including you, but only you can be held accountable if you choose not to act on it.

richard
richard
Oct 13, 2020 2:39 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

un-called for…

Spinky
Spinky
Oct 13, 2020 3:54 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

I haven’t worn a mask once. I do the distancing because I don’t like being around fearful people who don’t dare question authorities and assume blindly that authorities care about your welfare, and are willing to screech if anyone does not obey orders. There is no pandemic, it’s riskier to drive a car than to breathe the air, unless the air is in an area with high pollution levels, which is most cities. Time for everyone to start seeing reality for what it is, and it’s not what is presented in the fake news every night. That too is owned by the cabal of central bankers.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 4:48 PM
Reply to  Spinky

I agree with all that, still got to get to work

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
Oct 13, 2020 10:21 AM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

hard work innit, walking among the zombies😎

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 12:05 PM
Reply to  Dr. Sok

Is that what you call people who got bills to pay

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 13, 2020 4:25 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Wearing a pointless mask, living in fear and not seeing my loved ones never paid any bills for me mate.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Does for me, for now… mate

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 4:45 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

No mask no bus no work…

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 4:46 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

It is the case now where I live… can’t
avoid it… not everyone is in the same situation, funny I have to explain that

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 13, 2020 5:03 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

There are ways around it. Tell them you are exempt, by law, you don’t have to prove it, and no bus driver has the right to ask you why you are exempt. Unless of course, you aren’t in Britain. In my initial post, I was writing about my experiences in Britain, where you don’t have to wear a mask, by law. This is from the government website: “Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card,… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Ok glad you’re coming around… no exemption in Canada… you argue, they call the police, u still resit, inside. No work today and quite a story to tell your boss whenever you get out. Radio Canada would also be delighted to share your experience in the air… as an example of a “sociopath” who lost his job because he just doesn’t “understand”… believe me I checked everything, no ay around it here… I can still get away with leaving my nose uncovered… that’s getting more and more difficult… and I got asthma and allergies… response from my gvmnt on that is clearly “fuck you”…

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 13, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Then I feel for you, I really do. I’d be fucking pissed off if I were you. But, again, I was talking about my situation in the country that I live in. No offence meant to people who find themselves in a different situation to me.

richard
richard
Oct 13, 2020 2:42 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

The learning curve has gotten steeper, of late, for most of us I would suspect.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:22 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Perhaps we’re being made to see how shockingly mediocre we are.

John the First
John the First
Oct 21, 2020 4:17 AM

The mask is symbolic of a century of mass mediocrity and its inevitable sameness indeed. It is given birth by the society of the rule of mass man (democracy) which produces sameness and distributes it through its networks of expression of mass man (his modern media). All this under the architectural guidance of modern oligarchy, who in time have started to make intelligent use of the situation by means of crowd psychology. The masses have sold their individuality themselves, a dictatorship of uniformity being the inevitable result. The opposition only blames the elites (contemporary oligarchy) because self-reflection and seeing the problem as something also contributed to by yourself does not sell to the opositional public with their sharp nosed conspiracy theories. Simple minds always blame the other, and democratic crowds always blame the elites, and keep to their myth of being the innocent, honest and integer ones. Even the latter… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 14, 2020 4:47 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

You echo my sentiments exactly Bob. Oh, it used to be so simple. I was on the Left. I read Marx. I read Marxists. Although to be fair, I already noted chronic blind spots amongst them – most notably the conspiracy phobia so brilliantly critiqued by Michael Parenti. This is where all those Leftists are so scared of being tarred with the brush of “conspiracy theory” described by one person (can’t recall who) as a kind of “intellectual leprosy”. Incidentally, I don’t think Marx himself would have been deceived by this bullshit. I think he would have roared with laughter. So, I followed some of the “conspiracy theorists” for a bit of balance e.g. Guido Giacomo Preparata, Peter Dale Scott etc. and I realised that you should read widely because you can find a bit of the truth anywhere – and you should be especially aware of that con whereby… Read more »

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 14, 2020 6:10 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m very much in agreement with you there George. As regards the mainstream left, I realised how much of a wrong turn it had all taken when I started picking up on the exact same logical fallacies used by right wing bigots in the mainstream left’s identity politics driven nonsense, which actually has nothing to do with being left wing. They are actually just terrible authoritarians. Rather than being the main players in the COVID scam though, they are the main ones being played for fools and used by psychopaths for their own ends.

Left and right doesn’t matter, we all have some truth to tell, and false divisions simply serve to keep us from seeing or hearing it.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 12, 2020 11:46 PM

An excellent analysis from a very honest, decent, intelligent human being. Let’s hope more people take the time to watch and listen to a man of wisdom.

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 11:12 PM

Just one last comment: its as usual heartening to see how the so called people against the narrative enjoy seriously harming one other for petty reasons. Isnt that what happened under Nazi rule: the real reason the left could be sent to concentration camps and killed is because the various parties turned against one other for petty reasons of the time, rather than unite against Nazism. Really heartening to see nothing has changed nearly 90 years later. Sincerely, there is little for oppressors to ever do. Its really the oppressed who on top of it claim to be against the oppressor who ensure the victory of oppression. I never held much hope for humanity, only for a handful as being capable of achieving an admirable level of humanness. Goodness know why some of us gave up our privileged lives to even try and do anything. At least among the elites… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:10 AM
Reply to  annette

Ohhh shit… I just read what you wrote… of course the elite is calm and smiling… you won’t be missed… get out!

tiredofthelies
tiredofthelies
Oct 13, 2020 3:11 PM
Reply to  annette

Oh yes, and when your bank account is frozen/deleted. and there’s no power, what then, just rely on wishful thinking?

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:27 PM
Reply to  annette

It is discouraging to encounter such belligerence outside the box. Are you sure that you’re engaged in right conduct, though? What would that be?

gorden
gorden
Oct 12, 2020 10:38 PM

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:05 AM
Reply to  gorden

What beauty… every time I ear one of these men, I just flip… This guy is the shit… And this coming from a blue white French Goyan… God bless

tiredofthelies
tiredofthelies
Oct 13, 2020 4:20 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

a great message for all people of all religions who have souls in the world. The others, can join the sociopaths.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 4:52 PM
Reply to  tiredofthelies

Smells like sociopath spirit here this morning

tiredofthelies
tiredofthelies
Oct 13, 2020 4:59 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

those who imagine they have souls, let them act. The rest, who will they call upon?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 13, 2020 3:00 AM
Reply to  gorden

“the more you try and please the bully, the more the bully will take from you”.
Exactly right. The level of compliance all round the World has emboldened the bastards behind the scamdemic. Thanks for this Gorden.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 13, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  gorden

See protests in NYC: https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/07/petition-to-support-mark-crispin-miller-and-academic-freedom/#comment-253669 Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith points out that there were two separate protests – the mask burning and the dancing – and that he was at the latter. In this interview with Del Bigtree, and in reference to a specific news report, he states: 3:20: The protest was about burning masks . . . and people recognising that a new religion has taken over; that’s the religion of Public Health. The religion of Public Health is superseding in the J-ish community. It’s superseding the Torah . . . It’s superseding the Constitution of the USA. And under the Public Health religion all measures are justified to force compliance because is for everyone’s benefit. 10:00: Public Health is a separate religion that comes from the cult of scarcity fighting against the God of abundance. — The Highwire with Del Bigtree October 9th, 2020 NY J-ish Neighborhoods Targeted… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 13, 2020 1:41 PM

This is the Highwire interview uploaded to youtube.

Rabbi yitzchok Dovid Smith
Oct 9, 2020
Vaccine Wars
Rabbi yitzchok Dovid Smith on the Highwire

teapot
teapot
Oct 12, 2020 10:30 PM

Good article, very reminiscent of Doris Lessing’s Canopus in Argos: Archives

RobG
RobG
Oct 12, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  teapot

It’s a rip off of Arthur C Clarke’s Report on Planet Three (which I would advise people to read, despite the fact that Arthur was a paedo).

I’m aghast at just how dumbed-down the world has become.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 10:23 PM

Latest News sourced from The Guardian “Boris Johnson warned northern leaders that a failure to agree tougher coronavirus restrictions within days would be “unforgivable” as he faced doubt and frustration over a new system designed to prevent the “inexorable” spread of Covid-19.” Boris Johnson Decoded: “Well you are obviously going to take no notice of me,. Carry on as normal.” The “northern leaders” have to “agree tougher coronavirus restrictions within days” No they don’t. They can keep Liverpool Open, and Carry on as Normal, until the “northern leaders” and the arseholes in Westminster like Matt Hancock, and my Mate in the Civil Service Agree.. So don’t agree… Put it out to Independent Arbitration..which will go on for years before any decision is made. Look its quite simple. Almost no one under the age of 82 is Dying of COVID There is No Pandemic. They have already admitted it’s no worse… Read more »

RobG
RobG
Oct 12, 2020 11:59 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Tony, I’m afraid it’s already too late: they’ve completely trashed the economy, and they’ve done it worldwide, and they’ve done it on purpose.

What comes next is anyone’s guess. All you can say is that a huge number of people will die as a result of this.

I know you like a bit of hard rock, so here’s one for you…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7neHq9fpBc

I still remain optimistic about the final outcome of all this; although I think the next few years will be very grim.

Arne
Arne
Oct 12, 2020 10:21 PM

One day people will wonder if eve-
rything is not “somehow relative”?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism

The “satanic reversal of every-
thing”, revaluation of all values.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 13, 2020 6:54 AM
Reply to  Arne

Peter Cook & Dudley Moore took this on in the One-Legged Man, or since that title was too banal for their genius, “One Leg Too Few”.

The unidexter, auditioning to play Tarzan.

“Your right leg I like. It’s a lovely leg for the role. I’ve got nothing against your right leg.
The trouble is – neither have you.”

reprint
reprint
Oct 12, 2020 10:04 PM

America is now bankrupt, with bank runs occurring as soon as the printing press slows, because its system is inherently irrational and self destructive. You cannot destroy the lives of your population through poverty, lack of investment, asset strip viable business, provide poor education, underinvest in infrastructure, destroy your small businesses, and allow predatory Corporations to regulate themselves, and expect to be as successful as other countries. It is idiocy and is finally imploding. The CIA would have us believe it is an International, global, jewish, business conspiracy (your story)……… but aren’t those the excuses Nazis always give? US corporations exported their manufacturing base because of greed and Trump was the biggest culprit. It is typical that they now blame others, when they have made themselves totally exposed and vulnerable. Normally psychopaths would declare war on China to get out of this mess, but they can’t. because it is home… Read more »

Arne
Arne
Oct 12, 2020 10:03 PM

I wonder why this has not yet
been “blocked and canceled”.

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 10:02 PM

I have found by now four commentators on this site whose aim is to literally harm others when they have differences. Still 3 had the decency to keep their harmfulness private. The 4th one is someone literally dangerous. So I am now completely stopping using this website. Everyone should be very careful. Its long ceased to be trustworthy, in fact from the beginning its been full of harmful people.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  annette

Fear is the only thing we have to fear… u scaring me

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  annette

How can a commentator “literally” harm you?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

there’s a good joke in there right?… I think she meant literary

RobG
RobG
Oct 12, 2020 11:18 PM
Reply to  annette

Name the commentators and link to their posts that you find so offensive.

Then people can judge whether or not you’re just another creature from the 77th Brigade, et al.

Roberto
Roberto
Oct 12, 2020 11:43 PM
Reply to  annette

Intriguing comment.
To help ensure the protection of others, how may one determine harmfulness to other commenters on the website if the harmfulness is kept private?
Genuinely interested.

Philippe
Philippe
Oct 13, 2020 12:55 PM
Reply to  annette

At risk of simply throwing this question into the void – assuming you have actually gone …

I’m curious; If three ‘harmful’ commentors had the decency to keep their ‘harmfulness’ private, by what criterion could they be considered ‘harmful’?

Surely, ‘harmfulness’ is a participation sport.

Also, how are you differentiating between this site harbouring four harmful people and this site being full of harmful people?

Unless, of course, you have access to information that has not been shared with the rest of us (I say ‘us’ assuming I’m not one of the four, obviously) and your organisation’s hack of contribuors’ email addresses has thrown up a few murderers, fraudsters, armed robbers and the like.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 12, 2020 9:49 PM

Come on now people , it’s not all doom and gloom. Why here’s the Torygraph to spread a little cheer and put that smile back on your face !….

“Few individuals can have helped more to both document the pandemic and make it a little less worrying than our own cartoonist, Matt. His Best of Matt 2020 collection is about to launch and to mark it he spoke to Guy Kelly about what changed and what didn’t when covering the biggest story of his career, as well as sharing his favourite cartoons from the crisis

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Matt is ace.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 10:08 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

TTelegraph is mache.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  Grafter

thanks…

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 9:49 PM

Because you lot clearly are not arsed.This week in the paper odourless weed and 10000 dead minks from covid.Keep up.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 9:50 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

Thats ten (10) thousand.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 9:56 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

And Pompeii rush nickers with the conscience nonsense bad vibe 5g.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

Its all to do with the Sciencecon.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Oct 12, 2020 10:02 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

I woudnt buy weed that didnt smell of weed.I would say no It dont smell of weed.Shitloads of it in Barcelona apparantly.Wont be going there then.Well done.

Magumba
Magumba
Oct 12, 2020 9:21 PM

Left right marxism facism bankers WHO aunty bill and uncle melinda tptb etc etc etc

I’m getting increasingly confused

Can someone not put together something similar to a fantasy football league of actual names of who needs to be removed from the gene pool forthwith ?…a hit list for heavily armed Americans to play along with?….i’m unsure about prizes …who wants all their misery pre lockdown back?…and who wants all their new misery delivered on a plate by deliveroo ?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 9:38 PM
Reply to  Magumba

I hear you… may I? I was a loner since a while and yes, from a version of misery fed to us by the same people who are behind this “thing” (no names, if military wants to go into action, they can ask government for names, and NSA for precise targets… theyyy ‘ve done it before… ). A loner then and since confinements, I got more friends, so I’m kind of enjoying this in a selfish way… I’m terrified of vaccines though, and I want to keep my job… this doesn’t look good for my future. I KNOW a lot of people are near the end of the rope financially… They are not laughing cuz they know it too. I think in terms of mental stability, we can all take a lot more… This is not gonna break us… just stay away from wi-fi, formaldehyde, fire retardants, create a positive… Read more »

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 9:01 PM

OFF-G is being Seriously Denial of Service Attacked tonight. I find it extremely difficult to connect, but can connect eventually. I don’t think they are deleting anything, but nothing much can get through. “THEY” have probably filled their main internet pipe up coming in with masses of useless data, causing a blockage. If they ask their Internet Provider to reboot their server, (turn it off and on) it might work well again if its LINUX, and is configured to come on and work if you simply just turn it on, or phone the cleaner up and ask her….yer know near where you plugged the vacuum in. Incidentally the joke about the cleaners accidentally turning off the electricity to a main server, whilst vacuuming – is true. It kind of degrades the system, if you’ve only got one server. It totally stops working, and no one can get through. It won’t… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 9:50 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

You are a universe to explore Tony… It pains me to say that I might eventually be resigned to read exclusively your posts!… And what is this… precise procedures on server maintenance when a few weeks ago you were that vulnerable elderly who had trouble getting support for your cable TV (or something)…

And oh! “Incidentally” Tony? Really? “Incidentally” !!!!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 10:13 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Oh and before I forget, tins are coated with formaldehyde… so will you please let your wife handle this

Roberto
Roberto
Oct 13, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

It mostly doesn’t matter. Most so-called news doesn’t even concern us, and history is over forever. Actually, the flat-earthers got it right; function within the limits of your senses, abandon science and things invented to enhance your physical capabilities, and the rest of the world won’t bother you, and no more worries as long as the wind is blowing the right way. The problem is that the Flat Earthers, the ‘real’ ones, have always just been having a laugh but most people don’t realise it. That’s the sad part.
Must go.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 8:41 PM

That Saul Alinsky quote got me thinking – it’s exactly what the entrenched powers do every time. They use the left, or ideas framed as “progressive”, new age or socially liberal as a come hither… Once they’ve disarmed the people, they slap them with reaction. Hitler chose the New Age swastika for exactly that reason… You couldn’t have had a more trendy, liberal, hang loose, hip, eastern symbol in the 1920s than the swastika. (That’s why they try to ban it today: not because it retains any power but because they don’t want you to realize it was picked for its pre-Nazi connotations and was thus… cultural programming). Like the Bolsheviks, everything was sexual liberation for a while. All the boys flocked to Hugo Boss’ drop dead gorgeous uniforms… the Bolsheviks permitted, if not legalized, homosexuality… One sailor organized a wedding The guests included 95 former army officers along with… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 9:09 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

It puts me in mind of Logan’s Run, the promise of rebirth that turns out to be a cruel confidence trick.

A great movie that TPTB just can’t quite bring themselves to remake. Heck, they reboot everything else. What is it about Logan’s Run that’s too close for comfort?

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 9:20 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Luckily Hitler got the swastika the wrong way round… In India, the other way round, its a symbol of life and is very often at the entrance of houses.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 8:10 PM

George earlier mentioned Rick Wakeman. I didn’t know he had done a knew album. I listened to it a bit and can’t say I was particularly impressed – a bit like being in Church but without the starlight effects..I do however know his guitarist well. I asked my mate – who is he – He replied “Young Guitarist of Year” He is such a lovely bloke , plays in numerous different bands and was a regular at our pub 10-15 years ago. Sometimes, He was playing in front of 100 people, in our local pub one Saturday night…and the next Saturday playing in front 80,000 people in Quebec on The Canadian Tour in a different very famous band But Then Arrived at The Border between Canada and The USA They were held up at the airport…They all got through O.K., except The Drummer…. They wouldn’t Let the Drummer in cos… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Only terrorists are good drummers, so says my Quad 303-33 and B&W DM4s

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 7:25 PM

I found the funniest story today from someone – I think it was Mary on Craig Murray’s blog. (I am not allowed to post there any more) This wasn’t about Craig Murray, but it was kind of related with regards to the judge and his/her family and friends relations. It wasn’t even about Julian Assange Basically some kid – I think his name might be McCann – acussed of several murders and rapes and stuff The gist of it was – That from where he was in his jail cell…The prisoner refused to go to Court – To The Jail Warden -“Nah mate – I’m not going to go to the Court Old Bailey?, I ‘m going to stay here” The Jail Warden, says O.K. He then goes to the Transportation People – Serco??, and tells them Nah he’s not coming. So they tell the cops at The Old Bailey… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 7:10 PM

UK Column News – 12th October 2020 PART ONE “Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future.” — Saul Alinsky BUILDING BACK BETTER The slogan of Boris Johnson and Joe Biden – how can they promote the same policy? Canada has Build Back Better… so does Imran Khan of Pakistan… This is not coming form the politicians… who are all of different political views.. but they are all saying the same thing. Who, OH WHO, could it be? Britain has a Build Back Better campaign drawing funding from the European Climate Foundation and clues among its donors… They are promoting the Green New Deal… as is the Oak Foundation,… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 7:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Level 3
No social contact outside the home. Sorry for my fingers/ brain.

Part Two of my summary is awaiting spam check. Meanwhile you can watch it here.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 12, 2020 8:22 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“The European Climate Foundation’s boss is Ida Le Duc who previously worked, her blog says, with George Soros”.

Try to raise that name on the MSM:

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Oct 12, 2020 8:39 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_Back_Better

Coined by the united nations that awfully dyslexic discombobulated motto.

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I could tell you partly who is behind all this. The article Ive written will soon appear in a French magazine. At least for France and US and India, they are playing a huge role. They are huge throughout the world, everyone would have to search for the exact connection with their country at the moment. Evidently for that you need to know the local language as it may only be available in local websites, even that group’s local websites. I do have an English draft, but I havent put it in final form in English. And I think it should appear in English… For that Id need to find an English site willing to publish it. I felt once I do then Ill finalize the English version. Ill let you know if anyone is interested in the English speaking world. It all started because I was reading an article… Read more »

Gerard BARTLE
Gerard BARTLE
Oct 12, 2020 10:12 PM
Reply to  annette

I get really passionate at times, when i post infrequently, and occasionally the grammar slips due to red wine, it happens.
But to say “Ive” mulitiple times demeans your content, which is quite possibly not your intent.
This comment is mentioned to help, not deride, as I speak but one language, to my shame.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:42 AM
Reply to  annette

Ok… Bill Gates is their puppet… he is… he came after… right now my take is he has been designated to take the hit… take the blame… He’s out there being obviously guilty… he’s not even hiding… what do they want? 500 million left on the planet?… what? (I’m not going to buy your book…) And careful… maybe they just want a report on what you could actually find out… Obviously they got the financial means to make it “perfect”… Give me a link, something.. I’m curious on what is going to become of… this

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 7:04 PM

UK Column News – 12th October 2020 PART TWO GOV’T ADMITS NO CASE FOR MASKS MPs HAVE BECOME A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE CABINET OFFICE A constituent writes to their MP about the danger of masks. Receives this reply: “…evidence of effectiveness is limited, strong evidence of effectiveness in the community setting is difficult to obtain…” Signed PP on behalf of Marie Turner, Head of Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries… on behalf of the minister. This is a Cabinet Office official responding on behalf of MPs who no longer have a voice. TALK ABOUT HIDING FROM ACCOUNTABILITY You can’t quote the Minister because he no longer answers, nor does his secretary. There’s a flunky to keep the public at bay and even the flunkey doesn’t sign her own letters. UKC/Northern Exposure David Scott: An MP who did their job would have reacted to this information: His flunkey admits masks do nothing.… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 13, 2020 9:34 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Researcher about to announce a significant finding on covid-19 virus shot dead.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/researcher-on-verge-of-very-significant-coronavirus-findings-shot-to-death/ar-BB13Fcfd

1,480 CEOs of major US businesses resigned in 2019, and sold their stocks. Another 219 resigned in Jan. 2020. – Michael Snyder, globalresearch.ca, 2020-07

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 6:47 PM

“Coronavirus latest news: Liverpool faces toughest local lockdown restrictions in England after being placed on a ‘very high’ alert ” Why are These Scumbags in Power Taking it Out on The Scousers? I have never had a problem with them, and I come from Oldham. Liverpool is The Wind Up Capital of The World. They practice on us from The Greater Manchester Area – just East of the Woolybacks, to get a reaction…So me representing Oldham had to compete. We ended up rolling on the floor together laughing our heads off in the pub. You can’t really do that in London, and yet these tw@ts from where I live now in London, hardly any of them have ever been anywhere near Liverpool have just decided to Shut Liverpool Down? Come on you Scousers…Even us lot used to do that here. Lights out – keep the pub open – you come in… Read more »

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Oct 12, 2020 8:40 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Westminster hates Liverpool

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 12, 2020 6:27 PM

“Herd immunity is not a strategy.” “It is the recognition of a biological fact.”

ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 9:30 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Herd immunity is given to animals Gratfer its derogative term
they even have people repeated there vocabulary’s

Your not chattle

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 6:21 PM

Is this really the time, as the comments seem to show, to become divided on matters of marxism and conservatism or whatever? We can all begin to disagree again when the time to reconstruct comes, but at the moment we have to unite and much more effectively than we are doing just to get back to the stage we were at before the measures came into place: we have to focus and unite to have all the measures effected since 2020 to be removed and no new ones bought in the name of diseases. That in itself seems a herculean task.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 7:00 PM
Reply to  annette

It’s not about disagreeing or agreeing on political philosophy or ideology but on determining who are the perpetrators of this heist and tyranny of humanity.

BANKERS.

If we don’t bring the conversation back to the BANKERS then we can’t combat the process.

And don’t you believe in exploring the cultural and historical questions (which includes politics) in order to better understand current issues?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 12, 2020 7:14 PM
Reply to  Researcher

More logic needed. Don’t bankers exist to serve the powerful?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 8:03 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Oh, so you don’t believe in that? I seem to have seen those words somewhere before.

Annette. Hope. Urmie.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  annette

Action! . Discussion on living differently, then implementation. Start right here.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 12, 2020 6:15 PM

WHO is now against lockdowns and social distancing.. ? Ok two things come to mind

  1. Now’s the time to saty in lockdown, they’re about to try something else… “..come on everybody, get out, and gather in packs in public places… we have a new game”
  2. We ARE the WHO!!! We’ve been voted in, out speeding the past WHO by a factor of 5. They are not telling us, but there’s been a tornado of brainstorms in here that would convince anybody. Congratulations everyone… let’s work at advising governments. I propose as first item in the agenda, get rid of those fucking masks!
tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 5:58 PM

Whilst I wasn’t particularly interested in history at school. It just seemed like rote learning of dates and events, whilst never really explaining the background to any of these events. I found Geography, Science and Maths far more interesting, and although my Surname is quite obviously French and my Mum grew up in France when a Child – but is more Scottish and Welsh than English, even though she was born in London…. I Have maintained an Interest in Names. Both First and Second Names…Where did they come from? I was born just a few years after the Second World War. I can still remember even the surnames, of the kids I went to school with. Most people do not understand what WWII was all about, unless they were actually in it, or born shortly after it had finished. A significant proportion of my friends were the Children of Refugees… Read more »

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Indeed, school history can be just rote learning. But without understanding the past, one cant understand the present, and the wisdom accumulated for millennia has within it the solutions for the future: its mainly a matter of updating this wisdom to current conditions. Otherwise we keep reinventing wheel.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 7:02 PM
Reply to  annette

But you just argued for not discussing the past in your above comment.

annette
annette
Oct 12, 2020 7:24 PM
Reply to  Researcher

To say that unlimited profit and democracy are incompatible does not require bringing in marxism. This has been written about by all sorts of people, e.g. Kevin Phillipps (I dont quite recall his name). Its also one thing to understand something oneself. Its something else to bring about divides between those of us who wish this nightmare to be over. And frankly we can analyse the historical causes of all this later. Today we have to just focus and identify those at the moment guilty, whoever they are. We’re already so divided. This summer I came across someone who was very actively involved as long as it affected him personally very badly, and left others involved alongside him in the lurch once he felt it ceased (though the life he’s settled for is a 1/2 life, and when you tell him that the situation is terrible and we should remain… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 7:50 PM
Reply to  annette

Nobody is quarreling. People are presenting ideas that are false and thus perpetuating the left – right fallacy or the nation state vs nation state fallacy.

If some here are determined to continually bring up politics and have a new daily occurrence of amnesia, that this is a global agenda based on globalist interests that are controlled by the BANKS, then I will continue to illuminate the root cause of the pandemics, wars and terror, no matter how many are determined to obfuscate the truth.

AND YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Well I guess it’s always between 5pm and 4am somewhere right? (reference to comment below)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

It is here in Montreal 🙂

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 1:08 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

c’est un imbécile ivre

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Researcher

C’est un foutue Scott avare et traitre qui s’était endormit avec les Stones, et qui a jamais vu que quelques années plus tard, de ce coté-ci de l’Atlantique, ses chères poulettes auraient été une bande de féministes féroces, qui lui aurait prit son bateaux, et en aurait fait un Boston tea party… Là il se réveille, et il s’imagine que c’est le début des conspirations… et oui il est probablement bourré

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Et je sais pas si t’as r’marqué, mais c bien à moi qu’il s’en prenait… à travers toi

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 1:26 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Lol … Ouais. C’est la gentille histoire.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:52 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Gentille histoire? makes no sense, not even an expression… say it in English

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 3:23 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Kind story. Gentle history.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 3:33 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Can’t find any references on Google for both expressions… wish I could really get in there… well if you ever find it in yourself to explain… :-)… gentile history would make us suspicious, unnecessarily this time… I… donno

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Are you really fluent in French or did I just drown you here

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 1:48 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

I am far from fluent but I understood every word. You are being very generous though, in your assessment… too kind.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 2:48 AM
Reply to  Researcher

You shouldn’t send all your army at once at the beginning… but u know that… always appreciate a sarcasm… what are we gonna do? Take everyone seriously?… exhausting

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 11:20 PM
Reply to  Researcher

No she didn’t. And you have been very aggressive to her.

You are bright,but a bit of an attack dog aren’t you?

I bet you are female.

most blokes couldn’t be arsed with the likes of you

Why not try and be nice to the people you disagree with, rather than try to ram your ideas down their throat, and make them feel uncomfortable

You have already been horrible to me twice.

I still give you an uptick when you write something really good, which you sometimes do, even though I quite obviously don’t like you.

Tony

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 12:34 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Wow Tony… Give an uptick when you got any to spare

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 1:02 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Take a long walk off a short pier.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 1:19 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Ok I’m gonna try to remember that one… efficient

Glen John Batterham
Glen John Batterham
Oct 12, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Here in Australia many non United Kingdom migrants up until the 1970’s anglicised their names. Especially those of the period post ww2. Even if parents chose to retain their European surnames they’d most likely change the names of their children. Their reasons were mostly to help them fit into a very racist English society. The distrust of foreigners was already prevalent long before the decade long propaganda war off 1935 to 1945 taught us to further dehumanise everyone in Europe East of Dover. These people simply wanted to aide their children and themselves, but more notably their children to fit into a new society with a little more ease. Afterall they’d left Europe behind with basically nothing and were desperate to do anything that could possibly aide their transition. Sure a lot of civil and war criminals would have obviously changed their names and tried to escape hidden amongst the… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 12, 2020 5:10 PM

One of the many things that royally fuck me off about this whole situation is the way the TV news will gleefully show an item about the 80-something man who does laps of his garden in order to stay fit while he’s confined to his house, but there isn’t a single word about the fact that people are committing suicide because of the effects of lockdown.

Those household names who work in the media truly are enemies of humanity. Complicit in mass murder. Easily bought, spineless servants of illegitimate power.

(I’d just like to point out that I only ever watch the news at the residential home where I work. The TV’s always on. I sit there, seething, having fantasies about putting my boot through the screen, telling my colleagues that the role of the media is to tell lies which protect the interests of the ruling class).

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 5:16 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

I know how you feel.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 6:17 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Working at residential home? Snap! I already mentioned on OG, the weird alteration on daytime TV of Covid and soaps and quiz shows. It’s like “You’re all gonna die/ fun fun fun/ You’re all gonna die/ fun fun fun…” etc.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 12, 2020 6:37 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Ha. Yeah. But at least they’ve got the ”dying” part of it covered with all the ads for life insurance…

Sign up for one of our policies, and you get a free introductory gift!

(P.S. You’re all gonna die).

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 12, 2020 10:56 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

The whole psyop royally fucks me off wherever I encounter it: Adverts, the news, big budget pop music, hollywood, fashion, junk food, big tech, TV, smart phones, social media, mainstream media, big pharma, consumerism, cosmetics, snobbish aesthetics, the legal drugs they sell you and many other facets of the fucking obvious blag, wrapped in plastic and willingly consumed.

Brain deadening hogwash, the lot of it, designed to “other” individuals who see through it and refuse to buy into it. Designed to channel people into an ever narrowing and degraded lack of conciousness and to supress the higher levels of awareness that we are all inherently capable of. The whole gambit knocks me ill.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 12, 2020 11:48 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Yeah, it’s all-pervasive. Every angle covered. And those black masks are everywhere, aren’t they? They’re a fucking fashion statement, all of a sudden. Anybody who wears one is a twat, in my book.

If only people realised what they’re capable of, Bob. Those who are trying to pull this shit on us wouldn’t stand a chance.

By the way, your user name reminded me of this song…

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 13, 2020 12:01 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

P.S. Let us continue to see through the nonsense and refuse to buy into it!

Jay
Jay
Oct 13, 2020 1:03 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Some people don’t have the luxury of gardens. I read about the suicide of two academics recently. One hung himself in his ‘bedsit’. Lockdown is an unspeakable crime against humanity and the MSM are complicit.

Howard
Howard
Oct 12, 2020 4:34 PM

Artistic License. The Willing Suspension Of Disbelief. These are the artist’s “brushes” so to speak used by John Griffin to craft the ending of his story. How otherwise account for the tiny ray of Light and Hope for the future? How, indeed, can there even be a future given humanity’s propensity for self-deception? In the exalted human take on existence, what goes up stays up. How gauche of the universe to contradict humanity!

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 4:15 PM

A few years back I heard that there were 8 people who held as much wealth between them as half of global population. And I think that this astonishing disparity is reflected in the media. Which is why you can now have an imbecilic monomania across all the channels. We are all plugged into this maddening repetition of whatever this parasitic minority want us to hear.

Of course it can be spun out with an impressive appearance of variety with innumerable talking heads – all of which are already swayed by the incessant bullshit that everyone has to put up with. But even if one of the system’s chosen representatives decides to “break out” and challenge the only permitted narrative, they can be edited in whatever way is required to mould them back into the monolithic narrative.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Oct 12, 2020 4:07 PM

I’m pretty sure Karl Marx wasn’t involved in the planning of the Federal Reserve System: At the end of November 1910, Senator Nelson W. Aldrich and Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Department A. Piatt Andrew, and five of the country’s leading financiers (Frank Vanderlip, Henry P. Davison, Benjamin Strong, and Paul Warburg) arrived at the Jekyll Island Club to conduct a secret meeting to plan the country’s monetary policy and banking system, formulating during the meeting the Federal Reserve as America’s next central bank. According to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, the 1910 Jekyll Island meeting resulted in draft legislation for the creation of a U.S. central bank. Parts of this draft (the Aldrich plan) were incorporated into the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. Excerpted from: Jekyll Island Club – Wikipedia “The club thrived through the early 20th century; its members came from many of the world’s wealthiest families,… Read more »

hendRIK Pieters
hendRIK Pieters
Oct 12, 2020 5:28 PM

And now they did the same thing in the EU.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 5:55 PM

Marx may have been an agent of the European Cryptocracy. I am not particularly interested in communism or any political theory, ideology or system that promotes dogma or control and can be so easily corrupted.

Communism was secretly promoted and funded by the Jekyll Island club. That much is known.

They wanted to pit Germany against Russia to weaken both nations and kill off millions everywhere. Also by helping Hitler with this eugenics nonsense, and killing off the J_ws they could then seize Palestine later, under cover of the Holocaust.

And the US could emerge the victor from the Second World War with a powerful military structure and booming economy and the world’s reserve currency. That’s why the US entered into the war late. It’s all quite obviously orchestrated.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 13, 2020 3:46 AM
Reply to  Researcher

How did they emerge with the world’s reserve currency

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 3:55 PM

Just listening to Steve Wright and between every fucking song it’s fucking COVID. Now he’s speaking to Piers Morgan about how Americans are terrified of the virus. Everyone’s terrified of the virus. No-one is terrified of anything else. Well there’s nothing else to be terrified of, is there?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  George Mc

TPTB are seeking permission to release something truly deadly. Just waiting until the people start complaining, “FFS, it’s not even a real virus”.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Well, since I know viruses don’t exist they can only release something from the skies, taint the water or food supply or put something in the flu vaccine.

All of those are somewhat limited in scope.

Or 5g radiation baking everyone through the satellites and lampposts.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 13, 2020 9:23 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Or low-dose sarin, that often produces the same respiratory problems even weeks later.

richard
richard
Oct 12, 2020 7:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The Powers that Be are seeking permission? From whom may I ask?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 12, 2020 7:43 PM
Reply to  richard

The revelation of the method is much discussed.

It apparently originates from a runestone passed by an ancient freemason which justifies action against another, or at least girds your loins against an enema from the great sliderule, if you have given your victim due warning.

ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Revelation of the Method concerns mind control in the last stages and at a high level. When you tell someone what you are doing to them – murder, mayhem, kidnap, rape, you name it – and they do nothing to stop you or protect themselves, you have created a doubly enslaved subject.     This part of the motivation for the occult processing of America through ritual murder etc. The Cryptocracy carries out “cereal” murder crimes attended by archetypal signs and symbols which the dreaming mind of the Group Mind groks at a certain level. Next they confess in the Videodrome that it is the police and the authorities who are behind the crimes. Then they let the whole stew percolate into the psyche of the masses until the next covert sting operation.     This is partly why we have the least revolutionary and most passive population in recent memory. I’m not advertising… Read more »

ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 9:46 PM
Reply to  ame

there seems to be this theme (very sophisticated mind control)
the same doctor’s and nurse’s who where happy to carry out government  DNR duty’s in March April are now heroes because they signed the petition and changed there minds (a little) in October    
this also applys to the same TV Channel radio whores and MP’s 

Notice how soooooooooo amnesia based everyone is look how quick they either run back to white coats or politicians

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 11:19 PM
Reply to  ame

We need Michael Hoffman to interpret what is happening right now. He’s completely missing in action.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Oct 13, 2020 4:59 PM
Reply to  ame

Your exercise of rigorousness suggests you’re on to something. I say this because I see life as exceptionally challenging, and people, via various mediocrities, do not meet the challenge. Thus the requirement for rigor, as in facing of what one is – fully. It’s never been more urgent. Discussion on this is open here…

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 4:52 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“By the look of things it would appear the CORPORATE FASCISTS intend to GO HOG WILD and crash the banking system, shut down the food supply chain, shut off power and water, cut communications and roll out DOC BILLY EUGENICS EUTHANASIA DEATH SHOTS just in time for Christmas (or no later then New Years). Don’t forget to vote. Heil Groper Joe, Heil Orange Hair Bozo, whatever.”
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“Nuclear Armageddon anyone?”

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 3:41 PM

This is the steepest learning curve I have ever known. Nafeez M Ahmed cheerleading the virus scaremongering? Well what an interesting light that casts on the past , Ahmed being, I believe, the first to release a book questioning 9/11. But then Ahmed always played the conspiracy phobia game too. As well as acting as adviser to various govt and military bodies. So how deep do the intelligence tendrils go?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 4:52 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If you take control of the message from the outset, then you control the narrative by softening it and you also limit the reach.

Pretty early on certain “leaders” at Occupy Wall St were taking control and telling everyone what to do.

Also, one look at their demands, you can see it was a precursor to BLM. Silly demands that don’t reform the structural and institutional corruption or address the real problem.

Gilets Jaunes, same MO. Astro turfing to deflect and deter substantive action.

richard
richard
Oct 12, 2020 3:30 PM
George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 4:41 PM
Reply to  richard

From your link:

“For Johnson, using the globalists’ phrase ‘Build Back Better’, this is the time to launch Britain on the ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’. “From internet shopping to working from home, it looks as though Covid has massively accelerated changes in the world of work… as old jobs are lost and as new ones are created… The Covid crisis is a catalyst for change…” he said.”

New jobs? What new jobs?

richard
richard
Oct 12, 2020 7:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Was that your take on the article – no new jobs yet?

What about the description:
“…the most chilling oration ever made by any British prime minister…”

Why did the author say that do you think? Or do you just want to divert attention away from it?

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 7:56 PM
Reply to  richard

“most chilling oration ever made” etc.is just boiler plate hyperbole. It has no content. So there is nothing to talk about. It’s like that BBC hit piece on Corbyn where we hear about “the poison in our society” and “the precipice we are facing”. It’s empty scare mongering rhetoric much like what we are getting about COVID.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 12, 2020 11:27 PM
Reply to  George Mc

One of my favourite ‘journalist’s’ phrases is …. “the killer virus rampaging through our streets”. And I love this one too ….. “blatant flouters of the rules”.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 8:39 AM
Reply to  May Hem

These are the kinds of frothing phrases that should alert anyone to the obvious fact that they are being played. But the really scary thing is that perhaps the majority have already figured this out – but you never hear about them because the media can con you about public opinion too.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 3:23 PM

Every time I log in to OffG I get this “checking browser” message. I presume you are under major cyber attack now. In which case we may not have long to go before the sadomasochistic wank fest of Covid is the only thing that will be permitted to appear on the net.

Denis
Denis
Oct 12, 2020 5:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’ve experienced it over the past few months too, then it stopped for a while and past few days it’s back on. Was wondering what’s that about 🤯😷

Hullabaloo
Hullabaloo
Oct 12, 2020 11:16 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I don’t have that problem because I don’t view the web with a shitty browser that has been created to track and blast me with ads. And if you’re using FF your doing it wrong.
Research it, learn it, use it.
Cleared your tracking cookies lately?

Jay
Jay
Oct 12, 2020 2:46 PM

Extremely courageous American doctor speaks out

https://twitter.com/Scifiscreen/status/1315403923491115008?s=20

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 2:59 PM
Reply to  Jay

Brave. Honest. Only 500 retweets.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 12, 2020 4:45 PM
Reply to  Jay

Excellent. Thanks for the link.

ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 9:52 PM
Reply to  Jay

there seems to be this theme (very sophisticated mind control)
the same doctor’s and nurse’s who where happy to carry out government DNR duty’s in March April are now heroes because they signed the petition and changed there minds (a little) in October    
this also applys to the same TV Channel radio whores and MP’s 
Notice how soooooooooo amnesia based everyone is look how quick they either run back to white coats or politicians

Hank
Hank
Oct 12, 2020 1:45 PM

The average age of those who have died from coronavirus in England and Wales since the start of the pandemic is 82.4 years old.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronavirus-fatalities-is-82-pcwqrzdzz

Life expectancy in the United Kingdom is 81.15.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1040159/life-expectancy-united-kingdom-all-time/

You’re safer with Covid!

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Oct 12, 2020 2:10 PM
Reply to  Hank

This is the sort of stuff I have been saying all along and it does get a reaction out of the brainwashed normies even for a second.

Mexton
Mexton
Oct 12, 2020 3:00 PM
Reply to  Hank

This is perhaps because last year was a very below average flu season, so the deaths were lower. If that makes sense.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 3:19 PM
Reply to  Hank

And yet COVID has become THE ONE AND ONLY PERMITTED ILLNESS shortly to become (if it hasn’t already) THE ONE AND ONLY PERMITTED TOPIC. Lost livelihoods, broken families, self harming children, suicides, cancelled health treatments – all are non-topics. This minuscule little ailment boosted by celebrities and the manufactured wrath of the Left is now ALL!

Glen John Batterham
Glen John Batterham
Oct 12, 2020 10:40 PM
Reply to  Hank

Here in Australia where international travel is at all but a standstill, the regular seasonal flu strains, notably type A influenza are drastically lower than normal thus far for 2020. See Australian government health department link below.
So low in fact that there were not enough cases to evaluate whether the annual flu vaccination program was effective or not.
Normally the constant influx of people from the northern hemisphere keeps the seasonal flu strains in circulation.
Viva la quarantine!

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-surveil-no13-20.htm

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 12:35 PM

After having mused on “the Left” and their role in this COVID operation, I have arrived at the following speculation: A ruling order as paranoid as the American one would make damn sure it had as much control as possible of the society it ruled over. This society always projected an image of “freedom” and “democracy”. These were the “selling points”, the self-image that had to be upheld. But all potential opposition had to be watched, influenced and ultimately controlled. And the more extreme the opposition appeared, the more it had to be watched, influenced and controlled. The Marxist Left must have been the main target all along – partly because they were the ones who had the nerve to delve into the holiest of holies – the capitalist system – but also because this Marxism, even if considered in a nominal sense, had led to two actual revolutions elsewhere… Read more »

Tuker
Tuker
Oct 12, 2020 12:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

My work is done….…, that sums it up. But I would just add, that the CIA and it’s far-right political wing, the neo-liberals that form the backbone of the American Empire, have been at war with the left for over 70 years, for very obvious reasons. The real Left puts the interests of the people above those of the capital owning class, which is the reason the US is at war with them in Venezuela and Cuba….and even the soviet union. You are not allowed to waste valuable resources on the population of your country that should be going to US corporations. A ‘crime’ against American Corporation the Europeans have been skilfully getting away with since the second world war. The US now wants to get it’s hands on European wealth since the US itself is structurally bankrupt.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  Tuker

Oh, I thoroughly agree. And going by my votes here (currently tying at 3 both up and down – an unusual result for me) perhaps many here misunderstand me. I am not coming out with that “Marx-was-a-stooge-for-the-bankers” theory. Not at all. I am just speculating on how this thing called “Marxism” has been very much under attack from the capitalist class right from the start – unsurprisingly since Marx mounted the most decisive and analytical opposition to capitalism. No, I don’t have a problem with Marx – only some “Marxists” and, in particular the poor deluded bastards who have fallen for this coronacrap.  

richard
richard
Oct 12, 2020 2:40 PM
Reply to  Tuker

The US is bankrupt because the globalists have exported America’s manufacturing and spent what remains of America’s wealth gaining control of the world’s resources (for itself not for America).

Wrelkon
Wrelkon
Oct 12, 2020 3:10 PM
Reply to  richard

America is bankrupt because its system is inherently irrational and destructive. You cannot destroy the lives of your population through poverty, lack of investment, destroy your small businesses, and destroy state regulation of excess and expect to be as successful as other countries. It is idiocy and is finally imploding. The CIA would have us believe it is an International, global, jewish business conspiracy (your story)……… but aren’t those the excuses nazis normally give ?

Sandra
Sandra
Oct 12, 2020 3:21 PM
Reply to  richard

America is now bankrupt, with bank runs occurring as soon as the printing press slows, because its system is inherently irrational and self destructive. You cannot destroy the lives of your population through poverty, lack of investment, asset strip viable business, provide poor education, underinvest in infrastructure, destroy your small businesses, and allow predatory Corporations to regulate themselves, and expect to be as successful as other countries. It is idiocy and is finally imploding. The CIA would have us believe it is an International, global, jewish, business conspiracy (your story)……… but aren’t those the excuses Nazis always give? US corporations exported their manufacturing base because of greed and Trump was the biggest culprit. It is typical that they now blame others, when they have made themselves totally exposed and vulnerable. Normally the psychopaths would declare war on Chine to get out of this mess, but they can’t because it is… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  Sandra

Who controls the CIA? It’s not a force unto itself. The Fed and the central banks control all the major transnational corporations of the world, NGOs, governments, and the 17 intelligence agencies in the US.

The CENTRAL banks control the MONEY. The markets. Indices. Industry. Manufacturing. Trade. Wars. Energy.
The war is a war against the people themselves. We already know this is the implementation of Agenda 21 as laid out in Rockefeller Planned Scenarios, through ICLEI, GRCN and Strong Cities and managed by the WEF, UN, World Bank, IMF and the WHO.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 12, 2020 7:44 PM
Reply to  richard

Precisely. Posters seem to forget that working Americans are the targets of globalist elites just as much as anyone else. Smearing the USA as some demonic empire is about as true, relevant to our predicament, and useful to debate as saying the moon is made of cheese.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 12, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  Tuker

Isn’t it the left who have been fighting the capitalist system and thus the US for much more than 70 years? Capitalism must exist before socialists can take control of it, don’t forget. Also, consider that ‘America’ and the Trump administration are different. When Orange Man says ‘America First’, he means his voters, the American workers, not the deep state and military-industrial complex, which enrich themselves from war and ruin democracy by controlling much of Congress. But Trump is steadily ending all US foreign wars too. No wonder the DC swamp, their MSM tools, and corporate America all so want him gone.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 1:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The CIA party (formerly known as the SEP) has CORPORATE FASCIST Langley-Land disinformation operation written all over it. That it shrouds itself in the name and memory of Leon Trotsky to push the CORPORATE FASCIST SCAMDEMIC PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN shows the utter contempt it has for the spirit of honest Socialism

If Leon Trotsky was alive today he would be the first to lead the attack against those hypocrites and frauds who misuse his name and legacy to further the malicious agenda of CORPORATE FASCISM.

“They are as Marxist as Groper Joe or Orange Hair Bozo.”

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“Capitalism and Bolshevism are the two sides of the same unmentionable’s coin.”

— A famous Austrian artist and twice decorated WW1 veteran

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 1:54 PM

Are you a fan of his?

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 2:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Not a fan, just one who rebukes victor’s history bullshitters that lie about him continually – I’m all for Truth, aren’t you? Now there’s a silly question.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 2:34 PM

“Yeah, that’s right. That is why they imprisoned and murdered Eugene Debs and so many like him.”

Conflating opposition to something is ethically dishonest, as well as being intellectually lazy. War is not the same as peace.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:03 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

What has a Communist Socialist traitor to The American Republic got to do with Adolf Hitler.

“Conflating opposition to something is ethically dishonest, as well as being intellectually lazy. War is not the same as peace.”

I have no idea what you’re rambling on about.

Blogger
Blogger
Oct 12, 2020 3:31 PM

No they are not. Do you know what socialism is?……. thought not.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:07 PM
Reply to  Blogger

Socialism is a stepping stone to Communist tyranny. Do you want proof?

Here we are – your education starts here:

“Democracy is indispensable to Socialism.” – V. I. Lenin

“Socialism leads to Communism.” – Karl Marx

“The establishment of a central bank is 90% of communising a nation.” – V. I. Lenin

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Trotsky was backed by the bankers. It was all a sham.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 2:57 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Is that so? In historical research primary sources are the best.

“It is produce bank record time again. In short ‘show us the money.’ Put up or shut up.”

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Read creature from Jekyll Island.

If you haven’t figured out yet that communism was an obvious fucking sham from the outset to create an alternate tyranny that was oppositional to capitalism, then I don’t know what to tell you.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 12, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The Marxists here (in great numbers) remind me of an OTC analgesic add commercial in the USA decades ago, “Why trade a headache for an upset stomach?” BTW, Trotsky’s exploits and financial support from its Wall Street tentacle of the Rothschild banking cartel are thoroughly detailed by Antony Sutton. He came to Wall Street in the spring of 1917 to raise money for Lenin and his Bolsheviks, where he was wined, dined, and put up in their mansions by the heads of these banks, the Schiff’s in particular. He was gifted $5 million in gold bullion to bring back to Russia which amounts to about half a billion in today’s funny money. If this fact hurts, there is always Prep H. Let me repeat though that I detest the fascist crony capitalism that runs this planet today. Look how quickly China turned from a “Marxist state” on the way to… Read more »

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

“Anthony Sutton, the guy from the Hoover Institute? Will wonders never cease. Some may compare it to J. Edgar Hoover penning a biography on Malcolm X.”

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 12, 2020 6:37 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Well, what you write is true. Sutton was a researcher for the Hoover Institute of Stanford University in the 1960s and 70s. He was a very prolific author throughout his life, and I just counted 15 of his books still available on Amazon Kindle. I did note that none of them were published by the Hoover Institute. Sutton was IMO a truth seeker and his research and his publications reflected this. He was a tireless exposer of the Fed and the world’s central banks as well as the London and Wall Street banks that own them. He exposed the exploits of Prescott Bush under Harriman who helped finance the rise of Hitler right into the start and beyond of WWII. I cannot answer why the Hoover Institute chose to employ Sutton in the 1960s. They certainly would choose not to today. I can only speculate that it had a much… Read more »

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 9:17 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Some have attempted to connect the Bolsheviks with certain Wall Street banking interests, through Jacob Schiff etal. It is probably accurately loans were made to the Japanese during the Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905)- which enabled Japan to defeat the Russians. It is also probably accurate that loans were made to the provisional Alexander Kerensky regime/government – following the fall of the Czar. However, Wall Street had no love for Socialism, or the Bolsheviks and from what I have read those Wall Street interests demanded full immediate repayment of the loans made to Kerensky from succeeding Russian governments (ie Lenin and Stalin). Despite the fact that Kerensky and cohorts in all likelihood absconded with those funds when they fled Russia. Though Schiff & Co may have had great personal antipathy to the Czar because of treatment of Jews in Russia, they also saw the Czar as an impediment to THEIR business and… Read more »

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

You encapsulate this quote: “In our time political speech and writing are largely the defence of the indefensible.”

— George Orwell (Eric Blair)

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 12, 2020 5:55 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Utopia under Mao? I don’t think so.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:15 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

If there is rampant Fascism, as you claim, can you point me in the direction of a powerful Fascist dictator in the order of Mussolini, Franco or Pinochet holding sway in their Fascist country?

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 13, 2020 4:48 PM

That view is so 20th century. Get with the trend. However, XI as president for life may be a candidate.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 14, 2020 5:29 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Fuck trends. It looks like 20th century people were more awake than brainwashed millennial morons.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 14, 2020 5:42 PM

That is quite possible. There is strong evidence that vaccines with heavy metal adjuvants, glyphosate, and fluoride have reduced the median IQ in the USA by at least 10 points since 1950. Not to mention screen addiction.

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Oct 12, 2020 8:16 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I would recommend exploring Anthony Sutton’s work.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 12, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

If you read Professor Antony C Sutton’s books, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, National Suicide and Professor Carol Quigleys book Tragedy and Hope, you will see plenty of evidence that the Transnational Financiers engaged the Hegelian principle of thesis+antithesis = synthesis. Hence why they financed both the Bolsheviks and the National Socialists.

Blogger
Blogger
Oct 12, 2020 3:32 PM
Reply to  Researcher

You do not understand what the socialist movement was.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

No. Socialism, communism was a sham. It was always a capitalist construct so they could manage and herd any opposition.

The world is controlled, has been for centuries. Probably goes back to ancient times. If history hadn’t been distorted and rewritten it would be easier to comprehend that the world is mostly an illusion of fake choices run by bankers. They used militaries, politics, wars, nation states, industries, the IC and governments to achieve their objectives.

Now they are transitioning to a new model. One based on central command control using AI through digital currency, tech monitoring and medical tyranny.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 1:58 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Sadly I am coming to agree with you. With reference to those David North guys, I keep thinking, “Surely they can’t be that consistently and belligerently stupid?” And how odd that this betrayal arrived the moment the coronacrap exploded. Hell – you’d almost think that the WSWS was specifically formed to snare in as many genuine Lefties as possible before the virus con was unleashed, and our brave pseudo-Trotskyites swung into action.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 12, 2020 2:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It isn’t really stupidity. It’s animal cunning and an addiction to money.
If only animal cunning would stay with the animals, where it has its rightful place…

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 2:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes. Controlled opposition from the outset. David North is David Green. A millionaire. That’s why he has no specific background info and why all pictures of David Green have been wiped from the web.

Blogger
Blogger
Oct 12, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The controlled opposition are not left wing in any way. That is the point of a controlled opposition.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  Blogger

No. The beauty of controlled opposition is that it can morph into anything and it can appear to be anything. That’s the point. The point isn’t what they do or say, it’s what they don’t do. It’s not how far left they are, how dogmatic or tyrannical. They stop other natural movements from evolving. They co-opt leaders and corrupt them. They can channel people towards ineffective action and they can split people up into ever smaller and smaller groups. Mostly the controlled oppositional left has been haranguing about war and foreign policy since I’ve been alive, when they knew very well, if the central banks weren’t backing the wars by ripping off the people and chaining them into debt slavery, the wars could not continue. Controlled opposition can distract and serve as a decoy. It can taint the well. They can monitor and spy on members. They can serve a… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 4:44 PM
Reply to  Researcher

https://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=30939

Three people besides Scott Solomon identified David W. Green as David North.

No need whatsoever to change your identity, name or conceal your source of wealth if you are legitimate and not part of a deliberate controlled opposition.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 12, 2020 5:00 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Cos I had never heard of either of them, I found this. The article is good, but the comments are even better. Of course this is just a tip of an enormous iceberg. Personally I think the Trot’s, now rebranded Neocons have assumed control, and they are not nice people. Never have been. They are responsible for Mass Multiple Genocides and wars. I do not think their origins are European or American, and they have almost nothing whatsoever to do with The Middle East.

The Russians eventually chucked most of them out. They have now infiltrated all the main political parties, and all the major institutions of “The West”, and are The Main Drivers of This COVID Scam.

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=41918

Tony

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 5:27 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Yeah. Thanks. Saw that link a few days ago when Tom Larsen asked me to find links re David North being controlled opposition because he didn’t believe that the people running wsws could be the part of the cryptocracy.

I was suspicious of the wsws position on the coviscam operation.

Also, during Russiagate. WSWS never twigged that Russiagate was run out of MI6-Hakluyt with the Trump campaign’s cooperation and full awareness so it had to have had Trump’s knowledge, meaning it was a sham on both sides to perpetuate a fake enmity between Republicans vs Democrats, to convince ‘Murrikans that this is the most important election in the history of elections. Or some such nonsense.

More Kabuki.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 5:38 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

But the globalists are responsible for this scam. And Russia and China are colluding.

So it’s not political.

It’s apolitical.

It’s run out of the BIS and the central banks. They control the world through the money supply. The world bank and IMF then control the smaller nations through debt slavery, interest payments and loans that aren’t for the people but for industry development to steal resources and take control.

Russia’s central bank and banking sector are majority owned by the same cabal who own the Fed and control the covid narrative.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 13, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  Researcher

So, in your opinion, are all countries on board with the scamdemic? It’s obvious Russia and China are. Are there any that’s not? Tanzania? Madagascar? Belarus? Or, to put it another way, there’s nowhere to escape too, correct? Was intrigued you came across Andy Fleming’s blog, aka Slackbastard, as its a pretty obscure site. I’ve looked at it myself numerous times, tho he doesn’t seem to update it regularly. Are there any other sites you would recommend R? Genuinely interested. I noted your comment about ‘controlled opposition’ and I got my fingers burnt in a personal dalliance with the Socialist Equality Party. I was helping them in their campaigning for Julian Assange, but severed all contact with them when they came out with their grotesque fear mongering about the scamdemic. I read the links you provided to Tom Larsen a few days ago about the WSWS. In your opinion, is… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 8:03 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I don’t believe there’s anywhere to go because the Great Reset = Agenda 21. Not a pandemic.

Some sites that I visit regarding current events include Corbett Report, Global Research, Children’s Health Defense, Mint Press News, The Freedom Articles, Truthstream Media, Jon Rappaport, Covid19info.space, Environmental Health Trust, Wrong Kind of Green.

Additional sources on YouTube or Bitchute include Whitney Webb, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Alison McDowell, Dr. Vernon Coleman, Dr. Carrie Madej.

No one person or site has all the answers or the absolute truth. I tend to ignore political or theological emphasis, to sift through the noise and assess the veracity of the data.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 14, 2020 2:56 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Thanks Researcher. I’m a regular visitor to The Corbett Report, Global Research and Truthstream Media and occasionally look at Wrong Kind Of Green and Wrench In The Gears. Hadn’t heard of The Freedom Articles or Covid19info.space.
Appreciate your comments here also, and good luck to you and your family. Things are going to get very rocky and for many, it’ll be a desperate battle just to survive. My situation is really precarious as it is, and this entire agenda has barely begun…

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 14, 2020 4:15 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Sorry I couldn’t be more help.
I used to write for and edit a left-leaning political site many years ago, but now I am completely uninterested. My research is centered around scientific studies in the area of phytomedicine.

Do you have friends in Melbourne? When will they be allowing people to leave Victoria?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 14, 2020 6:05 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Having trouble posting comments again. Bloody spooks…. I have a few friends in Adelaide where I lived for 13 years before moving to Melbourne 3.5 yrs ago. They’re either mainly on board with the panicdemic narrative (via The Guardian) or are just oblivious to what is happening. To be fair one of them has read articles at Swiss Policy Research, read John Ioannidis and watched a video of The Corbett Report (who he thought was an ‘alt right echo chamber’) I had a couple of budding friendships in Melbourne, but they are so on board with the draconian lockdowns here, and think Daniel Andrews is doing a terrific job!! One of them chastised me for believing ‘bizarre conspiracy theories’ and started sending me articles from The Conversation about how dangerous the ‘pandemic’ is! So I severed ties with them. Yes, I watch most of Vernon Coleman’s videos as well. With… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 10:30 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Very interesting link. Now the charge of hypocrisy usually aimed at revolutionaries who nevertheless come from wealthy backgrounds tends to forget (or more likely never wanted to know) that no new system ever emerged out of nothing. It had to emerge out of an old system. Marx’s whole idea is that every system changes from within i.e. that all change is a matter of self-correcting. You have to be part of a system before you can change it. How could it be otherwise? So e.g. Engels was a wealthy industrialist. What would the ones who scream “hypocrite” have him do? Give away his wealth so he could not help Marx?

But Engels never hid his position. He would never understand why anyone would want him to. That North hides his true identity is suspicious – even without the other criticisms that the link makes.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 3:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Years ago, I was cautioned about them. Though I did not have any direct dealings with them I agreed with much of their political critique and analysis.

Their pushing the CORPORATE FASCIST SCAMDEMIC PROPAGANDA (to the detriment of much of civil society), the closing of public schools and face to face educational instruction and their attack upon civil liberties caused me to consider that those ‘words of caution’ were not totally unfounded after all.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 12, 2020 6:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Welcome to CIA-Soros Langley-Land Productions and Co-Intelpro World.
Be on ones guard. If it sounds too good to be true often times it isn’t.”

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 12, 2020 8:05 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I think your post ignores political realities in the US today. US corporates now mostly fund the US Democrats and even their woke pet causes, like BLM. Google it. Their funding buys many favours and ruins democracy, has done for decades, and now they all fear Trump, because he isn’t an establishment puppet. He’s the great anti-politician Americans voted for because he promises to drain the swamp and end the military-industrial complex, with which the CIA is famously and deeply involved. That’s why current director Gina Haspell is refusing to release the documentation proving how Obama used the intelligence agencies to spy on Trump and frame his supporters, part of the ‘rolling coup’ DC has been mounting against Orange Man Bad since his election. The CIA defend the DC swamp and elite, hugely corrupt Democrats like Hilary Clinton. They do not and can not respect US democracy, the voters, or… Read more »

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 13, 2020 5:52 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Some info links on David North’s (aka David Green) company, Grand River Printing and Imaging.

North’s company was acquired by another company, American Litho, Inc, in January 2013.

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20040621/SUB/406210881/entrepreneaur-of-the-year-finalists

https://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Grand-River-Printing-and-Imaging-GRPI-EI_IE632905.11,48.htm

https://www.usaopps.com/government_contractors/contractor-5720147-GRAND-RIVER-PRINTIN.htm

“Imagine that Leon Trotsky being named Crain’s Detroit ‘Entrepreneaur of the year’. What is going on there?”

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 1:52 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wrong. Not the target. Always the controlled opposition.

Hegelian Dialectic. Oppositional forces are constructed. Left vs Right is good cop / bad cop.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 2:03 PM
Reply to  Researcher

On the topic of good cop/bad cop (with Left and Right respectively), I have noticed that the game has changed: the Left has vaulted over the head of the Right to give us bad cop/ even worse cop – the Left now echoing what the Right say but magnified by ten.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 2:31 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Exactly. They’ve switched. This is to corral the dissenters and hoax exposers into a right wing paradigm and neuter them by associating all who dissent with the right wing.

So that anyone on the left or liberals who start the realize the narrative of the health officials, politicians, media and scientists was a lie from the outset, are then smeared as part of the lunatic right and have no choice but to be corralled into the GB Declaration.

It’s insane, but it’s worked.

Now they’re introducing the GB Declaration as controlled opposition to the tyranny but it has no actual measures to stop the tyranny, just changes it to a slightly softer, less obvious tyranny, with death by vaccination and biosensor monitoring, mass surveillance, cashless society, sustainable bs, still the goal, to corral those who believe in the fake virus, but don’t like the lockdown.

Controlled opposition everywhere you turn.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Oct 12, 2020 3:56 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Yuppers👍

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 2:12 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The only thing I would add to that is that ‘The Right’ is also the left. In Truth the mainstream political circus has no right wing parties at all, other than in name.

“When I was in my 20s I was a Marxist, Leninist, Trotskyist, revolutionary Bolshevik and I had opinions roughly equivalent to Mr Cleverly’s Conservative Party now – which has become an extraordinarily left-wing party since then.”

— Peter Hitchens

“The ‘conservatives’ Cameron and Osborne come out with things I used to say when I was a Trotskyist.”

— Peter Hitchens

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 10:32 PM

If you switch “Right” and “Left” round in your statement, then it would make sense.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Utter nonsense. I bet you’re one of these numbskulls that thinks that Blair’s New Labour party was a conservative party in drag.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 13, 2020 7:00 PM

Well it’s funny you should say that Charlie. It was Margaret Thatcher herself who called Blair’s New Labour Party her finest achievement. So there it is from the horse’s mouth.

Thatcher’s Conservative Party – Right Wing
Blair’s New Labour Party – Right Wing
Starmer’s Labour Party – Right Wing
Every single fucking party in the entire fucking West – Right Wing

THERE IS NO LEFT WING!

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 14, 2020 5:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Thatcher was a pro-EU socialist who became a token Tory at the end with her grand hurrah BS Brugges speech and was then booted out by Rothschild’s goons Howe, Heseltine and Clarke.

She was chosen to finish off British Industry completely, after Heath, Wilson and Callaghan began the rout. No Tories are allowed in Rothschild controlled British Governments.

Blair is a Fabian Marxist and his cabinet was stuffed with Commie scum.

Get your head out of your arse.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 14, 2020 7:33 PM

Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t realise the definition you were using: A Left winger is someone who breathes!

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 14, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You don’t realise anything.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 13, 2020 12:03 AM

But if it was only ever set up from the beginning to be an oppositional construct to channel people towards two teams, then there was never a legitimate force on either side. Ever. That’s the problem.

How can people know what they want or need when they are already enslaved through artificial debt? And they are being lied to from the moment they are born, right through their indoctrination at school and society through endless propaganda and millions of mixed messages and images?

They have lost all ability to think or reason because they are existing inside artificial constructs.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:33 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Of course there was never a legitimate force on either side. It’s always been a case of common stock holders (treadmill slaves) giving the criminal spiv board their vote of confidence, in ignorance. Which equates to carry on ripping us off with usury, taxation and inflation.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 12, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I agree with your analysis of WSWS, (as well as the larger left). As you say in other posts on this article, they have managed to out “right” the right. They claim to be the working class’ greatest champions, all the while they have championed the very mechanism that is doing the greatest harm to working people in the history of the world (if you judge by the scale). Fear is the ruling class’ manna and the WSWS have become expert fear pornographers.

richard
richard
Oct 12, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other.”
Myron Fagan

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 3:48 PM
Reply to  richard

Why did someone downvote you? People are so wedded to their own spin, as someone put it yesterday they cannot cope with the truth of a larger networked and organized force with unlimited, money, power and reach, controlling the world. But all we have to do is see the Catholic Church’s reaction to this lunacy to understand that every organization including religions has been created as oppositional constructs. First, they used religion to justify and fuel wars, then nation states, then politics, oil and energy, terror, and now they are using the pandemic as the ultimate tool against everyone. To incite a war against ourselves as living breathing, perfect organisms. To turn all the anger, the injustice, and self loathing the cryptocracy have created and nurtured over centuries, inwardly against our own bodies, and towards our neighbors, families, communities and friends, always directing the rage and hate in the wrong… Read more »

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Oct 12, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Researcher

To be fair, certain prominent Catholic clergy have condemned the hoax from the outset –

https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/

The COE have been utterly spineless in comparison.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 12, 2020 8:52 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

Good! I’m glad. However the Pope is pushing this sustainable WEF Reset Agenda.

Not to mention the aborted fetal tissue used in vaccines never seems to be expressly mentioned by the Vatican. Which I find odd.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 12, 2020 11:42 PM
Reply to  Researcher

A couple of senior catholic clergy in australia did object to the jab on those grounds. they were immediately put down by our MSM who pointed out that catholics had never objected to any other vaccinations in the past.

The catholic church is heavily involved in this control attempt:
https://wrenchinthegears.com/2019/06/21/doctrine-of-discovery-redux-the-vaticans-plans-for-impact-investing/

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Oct 12, 2020 7:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’d say that supporters of leftist policies have been betrayed by leftist-globalist politicians. So-called leftist leaders like Jeremy Corbyn have sided with the interests of international capital, not those of British labour. They have abandoned ordinary people and ignore what we say we think and want.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/08/owen-jones-vs-the-working-class/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 12, 2020 10:15 PM

Tell me something I don’t know.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:41 PM

There never was a left wing party that was for the ordinary people or working class as they are patronisingly known. Socialists and Communists are the ultimate thug Capitalists – John (two Jags) Prescott being a good example. Blair’s cabinet was full of ’em.

Tuker
Tuker
Oct 12, 2020 12:33 PM

Lie
Introduce measures
Retract the lie
keep the changes
Lie
Introduce measures
Retract the lie
Keep the changes
Lie
etc……

Dante
Dante
Oct 12, 2020 1:06 PM
Reply to  Tuker

These people who walk around with those damn masks on their faces deserve nothing but a bullet in their head.full stop.all of them!!!
They have had 8 f.months to f.realise this is a scam
But no,they just refuse!!!
I am so sick of this f.b.s!!!!

God
God
Oct 12, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Dante

The thing that scares me most is these idiots wear masks when they don’t need to, that is mental illness.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 12, 2020 2:28 PM
Reply to  God

“Oh, but you never know – the virus just might creep into one of my nostrils. Better safe than sorry…”
(facepalm…)

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 12, 2020 5:26 PM
Reply to  wardropper

You’re safer with Covid! — Hank @1.45pm

Standard Issue Opinions
Standard Issue Opinions
Oct 12, 2020 8:25 PM
Reply to  God

I think the guy talking about putting bullets in people’s heads because they’re wearing a facemask is a more likely candidate for mental illness than the people wearing them…

Dante
Dante
Oct 12, 2020 10:44 PM

Oh am i? But you do realise that because of them there is so little push back to this hoax do you?
Then please tell me what is your solution??? I am tired of trying to make them see the truth… they wont they live in a different world
It’ so f. annoying to be the only one without a mask almost everywhere! Do you f.undestand? Or you are one of them as well???

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Oct 12, 2020 11:35 PM
Reply to  Dante

Hear hear.
It’s counterintuitive, but it’s the mask wearers who are the greater terrorists here. They’re the ones carrying out the genocide. Without them the instigators are powerless.
Scary stuff.

Standard Issue Opinions
Standard Issue Opinions
Oct 12, 2020 11:51 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Wearing facemask = committing genocide
Shooting people in the head for wearing facemask = completely 100% sane course of action

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Oct 12, 2020 11:53 PM

I wasn’t responding to that comment and don’t advocate violence. Although maybe a slap for all mask wearers.

Dante
Dante
Oct 13, 2020 9:05 AM

So,what is your solution? Please i am waiting.

Dante
Dante
Oct 13, 2020 9:03 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

True!

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  Dante

Out of interest did your comment get moderated for spam? I only ask, because all my comments are being treated in this way.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 12, 2020 1:39 PM

The spam filter is automatic.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 5:03 PM

For all the people posting here – and it wasn’t automatic when I first started commenting here?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 12, 2020 8:51 PM

If Akismet flags you as possible spam your Comments will go into the pending folder. Sometimes certain people become targeted for a while. No problem – your comments will appear eventually.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:21 PM

Targeted by whom? Surely not lovers of free speech that regularly post here.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 14, 2020 8:01 PM

I posted a comment on another thread namely https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/12/klaus-schwab-his-great-fascist-reset/

Which included a quote by Joseph Goebbels and I wondered why you had censored it.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 14, 2020 10:01 PM

Can’t see that. We advise commenters to make a copy of their posts before hitting send. A2

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 15, 2020 4:54 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I will re-post it and see what happens. I know I definitely posted it, for I waited for your spam check message.

Yellon
Yellon
Oct 12, 2020 12:29 PM

They are opening up the hospitals they never used last time. We have heard this lies before.

Jay
Jay
Oct 12, 2020 12:27 PM

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ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 12:40 PM
Reply to  Jay

wow she big talker now what about int he beginning when they ALL endorsed it

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 12, 2020 2:36 PM
Reply to  ame

Who cares if she was wrong at the beginning? I was wrong at the beginning and I’m not afraid to admit it. Then I saw the evidence with my own eyes and realised that it was a total scam, so I changed my mind and my actions. Maybe she’s done the same?

I have no time for Julia Hartley-Brewer, she’s just another MSM shill doing the bidding of billionaires as far as I’m concerned but surely its better to have people with a following like hers calling out the bullshit manipulation of statistics in order to ramp up fear for what it really is. Better late than never.

ame
ame
Oct 12, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

what is internet lower IQ end fashionable sell able to the gullible
To make you feel slightly better
Dont you worry its already organized and incoming there will be a disgruntled political party getting set up and it will say all the usual spill like the controlled outspoken lot (6 months later) have.
and like fly’s around shit you will join. infact your pay to join. sooooooooooo predictable

and repeat.and repeat and repeat

paul
paul
Oct 12, 2020 5:12 PM
Reply to  ame

It’s almost formed with Lawrence Fox as the front man on vocals. No doubt Farage will be part involved too, playing base. Possibly pulling in our voice of morning reason, aka P. Morgan on lead guitar or other degenerate, there’s enough around. A clear divide from the other BLM, Extinction Rebellion and Antifa billionaire play groups. Setting up the black – white divide that’s been in play for a number of years. Great distractions and a rallying call for the aggrieved political loners. Beware of shiny things my precious. It’s well under way in America.

This has been done before with the 1960s civil rights movement, ’til it went off script by talking about social class rather than race resulting in the head being executed; though successful with the feminist movement. Now we have rainbows with no pot of gold to discover.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 12, 2020 5:07 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

She’s controlled 100%, and spews a script like all lying media whores.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Oct 12, 2020 11:27 PM

Without a doubt, as I said, she’s a shill, happy to get sealed airtight by corporate shlongs all day and night in order to feather her nest.

That doesn’t alter the fact that in this instance, she’s right.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Oct 13, 2020 12:46 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Oh yes they have to make ’em sound good some of the time, otherwise they would be too obvious. Tucker Carlson being a good example of that.