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WHO Taps ‘Anti-Conspiracy’ Crusader to Sway Public Opinion on COVID Vaccine

Jeremy Loffredo

An outspoken proponent of government-led tactics to influence public opinion on policy and to undermine the credibility of “conspiracy theorists” will lead the World Health Organization’s (WHO) efforts to encourage public acceptance of a COVID-19 vaccine, Children’s Health Defense has learned.

Last week, WHO’s general director, Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, tweeted that he was glad to speak with the organization’s Technical Advisory Group (TAG) on Behavioural Insights and Sciences for Health to “discuss vaccine acceptance and uptake in the context of COVID-19.”

In his next tweet Ghebreyesus announced that Cass Sunstein, founder and director of the Program on Behavioral Economics and Public Policy at Harvard Law School, will chair the advisory group, which was created in July.

Sunstein was former President Barack Obama’s head of Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where he was responsible for overseeing policies relating to information quality.

In 2008, Sunstein wrote a paper proposing that governments employ teams of covert agents to “cognitively infiltrate” online dissident groups and websites which advocate “false conspiracy theories” about the government. In the paper, Sunstein and his co-authors wrote:

Our principal claim here involves the potential value of cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, designed to introduce informational diversity into such groups and to expose indefensible conspiracy theories as such.

The government-led operations described in Sunstein’s paper would work to increase faith in government policy and policymakers and undermine the credibility of “conspiracists” who question their motives. They would also maintain a vigorous “counter misinformation establishment” to counter “conspiracy” groups opposed to government policies that aim to protect the common good.

Some of this would be accomplished by sending undercover agents, or government-paid third parties, into “online social networks or even real space groups.”

Sunstein also advocated in 2008 that the government pay “independent experts” to publicly advocate on the government’s behalf, whether on television or social media. He says this is effective because people don’t trust the government as much as they trust people they believe are “independent.”

WHO has already contracted the public relations firm, Hill + Knowlton. The PR giant, best known for its role in manufacturing false testimonies in support of the Gulf War, was hired by WHO  to “ensure the science and public health credibility of the WHO in order to ensure WHO’s advice and guidance is followed.”

WHO paid Hill + Knowlton $135,000 to identify micro-influencers, macro-influencers and “hidden heroes” who could covertly promote WHO’s advice and messaging on social media, and also protect and promote the organization’s image as a COVID-19 authority.

There’s no evidence that WHO has yet implemented any “cognitive infiltration” policies similar to what Sunstein advocated in 2008. If the organization were to adopt such a strategy, and use it to convince hesitant populations to take a COVID vaccine, it would raise questions of legality.

As put forward in a report by the Congressional Research Service, illegal “publicity or propaganda” is defined by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) to mean either (1) self-aggrandizement by public officials; (2) purely partisan activity; or (3) “covert propaganda.” By covert propaganda, GAO means information which originates from the government but is unattributed and made to appear as though it came from a third party.

Because WHO is a multinational organization and not a U.S. Government agency, covert “cognitive infiltration” policies could fall into a gray area, or even be considered legal.

Dr. Margaret Chan, former general-director of WHO, once stated that the organization’s policies are “driven by what [she called] donor interests.”

According to a 2012 article in Foreign Affairs, “few policy initiatives or normative standards set by the WHO are announced before they have been casually, unofficially vetted by Gates Foundation staff.” Or, as other sources told Politico in 2017, “Gates’ priorities have become the WHO’s.”

WHO’s current general director, Ghebreyesus, was previously on the board of two organizations that Gates founded, provided seed money for and continues to fund to this day: GAVI, the Vaccine Alliance, a public–private global health partnership focused on increased access to vaccines in poor countries, and the Global Fund, which says it aims to accelerate the “development, production and equitable global access to safe, quality, effective, and affordable COVID-19 diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines.”

If, as Politico put it, “Gates priorities have become the WHO’s,” and if WHO’s policies are driven by “donor interests,” this raises questions as to what online groups, people and websites would be targeted by such covert programs.

The idea of government agents carrying out psychological operations on social media is not far fetched. Earlier this year the head of editorial for Twitter’s Middle East and Africa office was outed as an active officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit, known as the 77th brigade, which specializes in online behavioral change operations.

First published at Children’s Health Defense.

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Seth Friedman
Seth Friedman
Oct 28, 2020 12:03 PM

CVHOAX.COM

timfrom
timfrom
Oct 28, 2020 11:57 AM

“government policies that aim to protect the common good” – Cas Sunstein

“The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants” – Albert Camus

Seth Friedman
Seth Friedman
Oct 28, 2020 12:03 PM
Reply to  timfrom

CVHOAX.COM

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Oct 28, 2020 8:20 AM

Just thought this was worth a note, from the most recent edition of the English-language Cyprus Sunday Mail. Interviewed from among a small number of people who had ventured out to a cinema that reopened on the island:

‘Andreas and Roxolana, 40 and 30 respectively, weren’t just blasé but actively sceptical. “No, because we know it’s a scam,” replied Andreas when asked if they’d been reluctant to venture out. “Put down ‘herd immunity’,” he added, pointing to my notebook, “and that we’re all going to die one day. Anyone who thinks they’re not going to is sadly mistaken.” “Stress only brings your immune system down,” said Roxolana.’

Good both to see people expressing independent opinions and the mainstream media reporting it, even if buried in an article.

Meanwhile, I believe here in Cyprus masks have been made mandatory everywhere for a temporary period. I was in the city centre of Limassol yesterday without wearing a mask myself (I was ignorant of the new rule at the time) but noticed a surprising number of people out on the streets were muzzled, but a fair number weren’t.

Seth Friedman
Seth Friedman
Oct 28, 2020 12:03 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

CVHOAX.COM

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 28, 2020 6:04 AM

@Wardropper

https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/26/who-taps-anti-conspiracy-crusader-to-sway-public-opinion-on-covid-vaccine/#comment-265779

The daily mail has unwittingly posed an intelligence test there…

The correct answer is, of course, “Covid IS the ‘flu”.

I think a lot of people will get full marks for it too –

I hope so but I had a dizzying sensation yesterday when I went for a walk with a friend. I told her about the “Covid has killed the flu” headline, expecting to get a big laugh… and she didn’t laugh. She took the preposterous headline/announcement as representing a “mixed blessing”.

I said, “Erm, no, it’s bullshit.”

She said (calmly): But what do you mean?

I had to explain it… and after my explanation, I realized that she thought that I was “possibly reading things into the situation”… so I changed the subject…. to avoid a heated argument that would have failed to change her POV while losing me a friend who was extremely open-minded regarding Parapolitical Topics pre-Covid.

And she is a fairly well-read, otherwise-intelligent person. TFIC seem to understand nuances of human psychology (after a century of study using various committees/ Think Tanks) that I still don’t get. I think what I may have experienced yesterday, with my friend, was watching a person subconsciously defend the “structure of Reality,” as she knows it, by Brain-Shifting. For five minutes she deliberately became an idiot or a child… then switched back to her usual intelligence when I changed the subject… without her realizing she was doing it. It was chilling… a very “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” moment.

I mean, full disclosure: I believed in “Climate Change,” too, 20 years ago. But I took the trouble to read through the “Climategate” emails, and read through other data, and after a day my mind was changed without resistance. After a few weeks (and tons of reading) I had developed a nuanced understanding of the climate scam and its various perpetrators and supposed paradoxes. I didn’t Brain-Shift in order to resist the destruction of my POV. But I haven’t owned a TV since the ’90s, so that might be the key…

Seth Friedman
Seth Friedman
Oct 28, 2020 12:04 PM

CVHOAX.COM

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
Oct 28, 2020 11:51 PM

TV and its maliferous effect should not be underestimated. I guess that because it is so familiar, nobody really sees it for what it truly is. To my mind, it is like an open sewer straight into your living room endlessly pumping.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 29, 2020 2:16 PM
Reply to  Dr. Sok

“I guess that because it is so familiar, nobody really sees it for what it truly is.”

I guess we should always be suspicious of a cutting edge communications technology that’s cheap enough for even the very poor to own! laugh

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 29, 2020 8:27 AM

I agree with you about the benefits of not watching TV for sufficiently long to develop an ability to think for yourself. I did precisely that on a gap year abroad. Pretty much all I watched on TV that year was a bit of football, a bit of tennis and the weather forecast.

The biggest problem with TV is that, even if it presents relevant facts semi truthfully (and that never happens nowadays), its unrivalled ability to reach pre-determined conclusions using whatever slippery arguments are deemed necessary means that those lolling on a couch seeking to relax will probably be undergoing a form of hypnosis.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 29, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

One thing it took me quite a few years to figure out is that Propaganda isn’t just about pushing a certain image or text but that it’s also (perhaps even more importantly) the Normalization of a Certain Tone. You watch a cozy old sitcom stocked with beloved old and/or sexy characters for long enough to “feel” that you “know” these characters and your mind makes the subliminal calculation how these “friends” would react to a situation or a discussion. And, of course, that imagined reaction is wholly normative; “Cheers” or “Friends” wouldn’t have to present an explicitly propagandistic “9/11” or “Covid” or “Sandy Hook” episode because your mind already knows how “Chandler” or “Ross” or “Diane” would respond to a “Truther”… with hilarious mockery or righteous indignation. And the thought of your favorite character’s “disappointment” in you, or even “revulsion” toward you, is too much to bear, right? That’s thousands and thousands of movies/ books/ TV programs that are effectively normative without explicitly flagging the content for your conscious mind to grapple with. Anthony Bordain (sp), right? All he’d have to do is roll his eyes at the mention of a “Covidiot” and thousands would be inoculated against the danger of really thinking about the issue rationally.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 29, 2020 11:09 AM

You have to realise there’s a Philip K Dick type split in reality going on. Admittedly I never watched much MSM anyway but when Covid hit, I started to make a determined effort to avoid it, reasoning that it was dripping purest poison into my skull. I heard about a work colleague who was sinking into a deeper and deeper state of anxiety and depression because – according to his wife – he was hooked on TV news.

And when I venture into the mainstream Left sites, I am often astonished at this odd vision they have whereby even they are taking the MSM at face value. I am in conversation with a very likeable and reasonable Left guy who says he is open to different interpretations and he will read what I write – but then when we get to discuss it, he always goes back to that blasé presupposition that the virus is the Deadly Big One. He will say that the virus hasn’t been proven to be hyped. And I will say that the virus hasn’t been proved to be the Big Deadly One either. And this is after both of us admitting that the figures are completely unreliable. Still – at least we have an amicable disagreement.

But I am constantly being driven back to that defeatist – but probably accurate – Frank Zappa quote: “People will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You don’t change people’s minds”.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 29, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“You have to realise there’s a Philip K Dick type split in reality going on”

PK would either come fully alive in these times or be rendered an utter basket case by being forced to face the physical projections of his Imagination 24/7/365.

“He will say that the virus hasn’t been proven to be hyped.”

Many of those types would very much like to believe that “Covid” is Nature’s Revenge. Very Puritanical at heart, these people. Which is akso why they cling to the OBL narrative: because they feel “we deserved it”. And I wouldn’t be surprised if TFIC aren’t deliberately exploiting that bizarre psychology.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 31, 2020 1:04 AM

Steven, yes, I think not having a tv might be a part of your ability to actually think. TV is so infantilizing. It simply gives you the answer– what you ought to conclude. It’s been a very long while since it gave you different inputs upon which you might exercise the little gray cells.

Then of course there are all those nice homey sort of imitation stuffed animals that talk to you.

Got rid of mine a long while ago too. Aside from everything else it’s such a time-waster. Ever look at a scholarly book written before the tv era? It’s footnoted in 2 ancient and 3 modern languages. Clearly impossible for anyone who watches tv.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 31, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Penelope:

My highest concentration of television-watching occurred in the late ’90s when I was a helpless American wage-slave: I’d plop down in front of The Svengali Box after a long, grueling day of soul-sapping labor, wolf down a steak and watch “Cheers,” “Star Trek: The Next Generation” or “Seinfeld” with my first wife. The soul-sapping labor, and the tv right after, were the relentless one-two punches of Capitalism at the time: I was defenseless. It was only after I’d left the US for the second (and last time), after Dubya’s crowning, that I became alive in another country, found a better way to earn a living, found the time and space to breathe and think again, found my Real Wife and no longer needed the toxic pain-killer of The Svengali Box.

The altogether eerie/hilarious side effect is when people rave about certain movies, or Netflix shows, as “ground-breaking” and/or “must-see” and I check out bits on YouTube and they are invariably preposterously corny, cliché, silly, empty, etc., as though Reality has been inverted, as a gag, to get a rise out of me! Laugh. No, I’m not that paranoid, yet… things are really that idiotic. And people lap it all up.It’s not a mysterious process.

hendRIK Pieters
hendRIK Pieters
Oct 27, 2020 9:13 PM

the WHO as ministry of truth, done with the sponsor’s money.

Seth Friedman
Seth Friedman
Oct 28, 2020 12:04 PM

CVHOAX.COM

hendRIK Pieters
hendRIK Pieters
Oct 28, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  Seth Friedman

never read 1984?

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 8:19 PM

http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/episode141_how_to_divide_and_conquer.mp3

Running Time: 56:35

Description:COINTELPRO is alive and well in the technetronic era as governments around the world hire agents to infiltrate groups, post comments and hack blogs in the name of maintaining the social order. The question, as always, is can we learn from history or are we doomed to repeat it?

Portonchok
Portonchok
Oct 27, 2020 9:05 PM
Reply to  Mishko

We are doomed to repeat it.
Next question please…

mikael
mikael
Oct 28, 2020 2:10 PM
Reply to  Mishko

The Jones Plan/tation, and sometimes something can be brought into the ligh, briliantly simple, and when I say simple, I dont mean it by the deffinition most people have about the word, simple, to me, its an word where narratives, wisdom and knowledge about certain terms/issues/etc are boiled down to the core, and no further explanations is required at all.

The truth about our world, in 12 min and 13 sec.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk

And the intervju of those behind this planation video.
From the Corbett rep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naTtuGOBDJg&feature=youtu.be
Have an nice day.

peace

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 29, 2020 8:28 AM
Reply to  Mishko

Prepared to list the ‘infiltrating agents’ posting at OffG?

Kim Bright
Kim Bright
Oct 27, 2020 7:52 PM

All these attacks on individuals are distracting us from the truth and the bigger picture. You can’t see the forest for the trees. We need to establish some basic facts about where we are at this moment and in that context understand why this is happening to us.
The US is an empire at the end of its life or heading to a point of transition, for some very fundamental economic and social reasons. Its philosophy or dogma, which served it so well for the past few decades, is fundamentally flawed, and because of corruption, greed and lack of empathy with its own population it has finally failed become a failed state. You cannot grow and maintain wealth when you don’t invest in your own people, your infrastructure, only make short term investments, and are in a constant cycle of asset stripping wealth out of your own economy, for short term profit.
Motivating your people through fear of poverty, crime and creating desperation, with only greed and materialism as a goal, damages them, It rots people and the wider society from within. Not only have they destroyed their own Country but they were also, though greed, exported their entire manufacturing base overseas, to countries that had invested in infrastructure and the skills of their own people.
They are also spending trillions on policing the world, though it’s military and covertly though its terror agencies. Patrolling the world is not covering its costs. Like with the British empire the cost of running empire became far greater than the profits from looting and trade. So now the US depends solely on the dollar to balance its books. Without its illusory value, the USA is bankrupt. And after 100 years of dominance the dollar is naturally coming to the end of tenure. It worked well for the last few decades, The dollar was transformed, via lavish printing into a global tax collection system, where the US offered green paper to countries overseas for their substantial resources and goods. The rest of the world has realised the folly of this system, since the US has become even more hostile and aggressive, providing less reassurance of safety and stability. The US ‘ruled’ with consent and that consent is now suffering, death by a thousand cuts, through the actions of its foes and one time allies. When that critical point is reached, where the Dollar is no longer ‘the safe haven’ but becomes a ‘risk asset’, then there will be a mass flight to safety out of the dollar into other assets and currencies. My guess is that there will be a flight to the euro, which despite it’s bad press, has remained a very solid currency over the past two decades.
When the dollar devaluation happens, it will be catastrophic for the USA, and the US knows it. It will lead to an instant contraction of military spending and a very sharp drop in the standard of living of all Americans. This will lead to disorder because the US will still obeys it bankrupt ideology of divid and conquer, that maintains the wealth of its elites at the expense of the majority. The US knows this is their fate, their implosion would dwarf the collapse of the soviet union. So this is where covid comes in, it is the controlled demolition of the world economy, where the dollar still reigns supreme, and the US engages in the forced accusation of assets and wealth, using the dollar, from all its vassal stats and victim countries.
It is the USA’s old IMF model of state looting it has run for years, on a massive scale. In-debt, & bankrupt your victim and then arrive with, cash in hand, to buy up the country’s resources during the following fire-sale. The targets are all important sectors in the rich countries of the world, and a further concentration of wealth at home with the bankruptcy of all independent medium and small business business. It doest not mean it will work but this is the plan.

Covid is world freeze on the inevitable Dollar collapse. The dollar collapse has been suspended until all accusations have been made. When the assets are all under control then the dollar can be allowed to die. I’m sure the US elites and oligarchs have many schemes to play out during the looting of world wealth, like vaccines, a form of licence or tax on life, social credit apps to loot all private data, destruction of all local theatres, and entertainment to be replaced by Netflix, amazon and apple TV,. They even intend issuing ‘google university level degrees to replace our universities and education systems. They think this is the salvation of America, it is their plan to extend the empire, from a very weak position.

As they have demonstrated in Venezuela and in Iran if you don’t acquiesce then they will destroy you, I have no doubt that has been made very clear to the elites in France, Germany and the UK. In the case of the UK they were pushing at an open door because American can never fuck the UK hard enough, they will always ask for more. This is what is happening and the US have scripted a safety net for American elites and it is now being played out.

That is why it feels like the very nature of space-time is being warped, it is the end of the biggest empire in History, but they are not going to go down quietly, if it means the destruction of an entire continent, the mass murder of billions, the damming of billions to a life of torture and starvation, they are happy to accept that as a price to, maintain their wealth and position. They are already demonstrating that toady in Venezuela and Iran. The price in other peoples lives for the preservation of the empire and their wealth. And you may ask if the Chinese are going to be better, I really I really don’t see how they could be much worse. You are looking at Anthony Fauci or Gates or Soros because the CIA want you to. When you need to be looking at the bigger picture.
The CIA have created the illusion of the NWO, because it means they can carry on doing what they are doing without the population and politicians getting wise to it.

richard
richard
Oct 27, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Kim Bright

They think this is the salvation of America”
Is this what you think they think?
Or what you would have us think they think…

George Lowe
George Lowe
Oct 27, 2020 8:41 PM
Reply to  richard

Why are you here?

Carey
Carey
Oct 27, 2020 10:39 PM
Reply to  richard

I hear you, richard- and would have a similar question for that commenter.
Way too long-windedly pat, as with a few others..

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 27, 2020 11:58 PM
Reply to  Carey

If you’re on the same wavelength as Richard, you really ought to be worried.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 27, 2020 11:56 PM
Reply to  richard

You need to think quite a bit harder.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Kim Bright

The CIA have created the illusion of the NWO, because it means they can carry on doing what they are doing without the population and politicians getting wise to it.”

Like a One World Government would then.

Kate Wilson
Kate Wilson
Oct 27, 2020 8:39 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Have you heard of American hegemony? You really don’t need to invent fantasies to understand the world just read a fucking history book.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 11:18 PM
Reply to  Kate Wilson

That’s just as hilarious and insightful as it was when you said it under your other persona ( you can get help for that by the way).

Have you heard of ‘the rest of the world’ ? it’s all around and far older than America.

As for the intention of your post. You’re lowering the tone. It’s not twitter. Try some learning. Or thinking. Then get back to me with something of substance. I find trolls and shills both tiresome. Not to mention predictable and dull.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 28, 2020 12:02 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

You seem to know a lot about trolls and shills.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 12:46 AM

Yes I do. Thank you for noticing.

I can also read and, more importantly, comprehend, what I read. It matters not if it’s a newspaper, a book or a fool who thinks he’s clever.

Add to this the fact I have that new innovation called ‘an internet connection‘ and you pretty much have an understanding of how i developed this outrageously mesmeric talent to spot a dickhead.

Kindlew
Kindlew
Oct 27, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Have you heard of American hegemony? it’s what grown-ups talk about.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 9:11 PM
Reply to  Kindlew

Really. I’ll make a note of that as soon as i’ve stitched my ribs back in.

Carey
Carey
Oct 27, 2020 10:43 PM
Reply to  Kindlew

>Have you heard of American hegemony? it’s what grown-ups talk about.

It’s transnational, dude (or dudette, or whatever). BTW, you sound like a
smug liberal-plant trying to play a role: “Grown-ups”.. heh.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 28, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  Carey

Yourself, Jura Calling and Richard make a nice little team. Keep at it, really impressive stuff. You’re not all part of 77th Brigade, are you?

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 12:41 AM

Only on a part time basis. I also do a full week at The Rockerfeller Institute. The CIA allow me time off as I need it so I can do Bill Gates’ book keeping then deploy several bots on to blogs and social network platforms. Irritating the mentally hilarious is just a hobby, so thank you for being there.

tish
tish
Oct 28, 2020 1:13 PM
Reply to  Kindlew

are you a grown up ?

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 28, 2020 10:27 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Yes, I agree. There seems to be a lot of bitching over minor deviations in nomenclature. What anyone with the most minimal awareness (which rules out the pathologically patronizing mainstream Left) must realise is:

  • There is one hell of a big change going on
  • When it is over, the world is going to look a lot fucking different
  • The new situation may as well be described as a “new order”. (A “disorder” is just an order as described by someone who doesn’t like it.) 
Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Huxley’s Brave New World showed us that injections of Soma at regular intervals will bring about enough bliss that ignorance will become a goal.

That was 1930. Soma comes in all forms now. nano is the next. How long does it take to ‘do the rounds’ and give the patients a daily top up ? A few billion ? About 2 or 3 hours. Once the chips are in and G6 ( not5) is in place- it’s all controlled by dials.

tish
tish
Oct 28, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Sounds about right

Portonchok
Portonchok
Oct 27, 2020 9:08 PM
Reply to  Kim Bright

Excellent post, best one for weeks.

Carey
Carey
Oct 27, 2020 10:46 PM
Reply to  Portonchok

Nej, it was disinforming windbaggery.

#wayTooPat

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 28, 2020 12:08 AM
Reply to  Carey

Thank you corporal.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 31, 2020 2:37 AM
Reply to  Kim Bright

No, Kim, the US has succeeded wildly at the task assigned it by the International Deep State, which is to undermine the countries which would oppose the NWO, Great Reset etc.

You are still judging things by what will happen to the US as a country. Those who have choreographed, US, Britain, Europe, etc, etc have never had the intention of continuing our countries as entities of any power or legality– certainly not as guarantors of our rights.

A revolution is occurring at this moment which will dispose of our rights and probably our lives– unless you can grasp the reality of what is happening and resist.

There have been several descriptive articles on this site. Corbett Reports has had several. Read & listen until you can make it real to yourself. Talking about the US
as a failed state is like talking about before the flood.

The question is whether there are any effective segments of our society, especially among military men, who will countermand the sickening revolution which is occurring.

Jesper
Jesper
Oct 27, 2020 7:41 PM

Being a class act WHO’s Gabbyjesus really knows to keep the right kind of company. Bought and paid for by Bill “OS-virus” Gates himself.

Ken
Ken
Oct 27, 2020 7:03 PM

The parallels between 9/11 and Covid-1984 continue.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Oct 27, 2020 6:34 PM

Check out this Illinois Health official crack a big smile as she turns away from the podium with pretend corona crocodile tears ..

https://youtu.be/YAQvEzNRIcA?t=275

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 7:37 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Definitely weird, even if it’s staged, or enhanced in some way…

Jan J
Jan J
Oct 27, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  wardropper

It’s not weird. It’s called “dupers delight”. Just google it, you will find all kinds of disturbing things…

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Oct 29, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  Jan J

Yes, a Robbie Mooke moment for sure

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Oct 29, 2020 3:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Indeed there’s no way to know the truth of the thing. I just know it gave me a weird chill to the spine

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Oct 27, 2020 6:19 PM

Dr David Ray Griffin, prominent author of books about 9/11, wrote one about Sunstein and his notion of “cognitive infiltration” in 2011. Interesting to see his name come up in today’s context.
https://www.booksamillion.com/p/Cognitive-Infiltration/David-Ray-Griffin/9781566568210

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 28, 2020 1:55 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

It’s one of Griffin’s most focused and aggressive, but couched in a hyper-ironic satirical framing device that bamboozled a lot of people. It’s a challenging read, but deeply satisfying.
HIGHly recommended.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 5:18 PM

The Corporatist Media has already been Sunsteined.

When journalists have abdicated, I make no apology for posting a conservative radio host – or a green-spotted, feathered and beaked ham radio buff, if he describes the world with reasonable objectivity.

We need a… some… media but there is no likelihood that unrepentant, paid-to, liars of the MSM will ever recover. In the meanwhile the unbelievable collective delusion and crowd madness is fairly portrayed here:

https://soundcloud.com/dan-bongino/unbelievable-theyre-really-trying-this

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 5:11 PM

Dear WHO ( and other liars)

Perhaps you would like to circulate the following with a view to ‘swaying’ the rest of us over to your side. I’d love to see which technique you choose. Now, stop counting the weekly pocket money top- up the freak child has injected into your accounts and pay attention.

The research involving the allegedly new virus SARS-CoV-2, only used 37 base pairs from actual sample tissue and filled in the rest (around 30,000 base pairs) with computer generated sequences, i.e. they made it up. The other of the COVID admissions is equally as stunning: after testing they found that SARS-CoV-2 could not infect human tissue.

 SARS-CoV-2 is a stitched-together, Frankenstein virus, because it is a computer-generated, digital, abstract creation, not a real living virus. It has never been properly purified and isolated so that it could be sequenced from end-to-end once derived from living tissue; instead, it’s just digitally assembled from a computer viral database. The CDC scientists state they took just 37 base pairs from a genome of 30,000 base pairs! That means that about 0.001% of the viral sequence is derived from actual living samples or real bodily tissue. 

So, the next time we ask why a software magnate is leading the war against it and why medical doctors are being silenced as the rest get paid to lie, we finally know the answer. It’s 99% computer virus. And where do all roads lead when tracing the history of the computer virus and cures ? Altogether now….

The quote :

“Whole-Genome Sequencing ….
We designed 37 pairs of nested PCRs spanning the genome on the basis of the coronavirus reference sequence (GenBank accession no. NC045512). We extracted nucleic acid from isolates and amplified by using the 37 individual nested PCRs.”

Interestingly enough, in the next paragraph, the CDC scientists say they used “quantitative PCR” for further analysis/construction, which goes against what Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR, once said – namely that “quantitative PCR is an oxymoron” since PCR is inherently a qualitative technique not a quantitative one. 

Quote 2 :

“… we examined the capacity of SARS-CoV-2 to infect and replicate in several common primate and human cell lines, including human adenocarcinoma cells (A549), human liver cells (HUH7.0), and human embryonic kidney cells (HEK-293T), in addition to Vero E6 and Vero CCL81 cells. We also examined an available big brown bat kidney cell line (EFK3B) for SARS-CoV-2 replication capacity. Each cell line was inoculated at high multiplicity of infection and examined 24 h postinfection … No CPE was observed in any of the cell lines except in Vero cells, which grew to >107 PFU at 24 h postinfection. In contrast, HUH7.0 and 293T cells showed only modest viral replication, and A549 cells were incompatible with SARS-CoV-2 infection. These results are consistent with previous susceptibility findings for SARS-CoV and suggest other common culture systems, including MDCK, HeLa, HEP-2, MRC-5 cells, and embryonated eggs, are unlikely to support SARS-CoV-2 replication. In addition, SARS-CoV-2 did not replicate in bat EFK3B cells, which are susceptible to MERS-CoV. Together, the results indicate that SARS-CoV-2 maintains a similar profile to SARS-CoV in terms of susceptible cell lines.”

PE stands for cytopathic effect or cytopathogenic effect and refers to structural changes in cells caused by viral invasion. No CPE was found in any of the human tissue cells, So, even by the rules of their own game, SARS-CoV-2 is not an infectious agent for humans.

There’s more, but limited space prevents it’s inclusion.

Sally Fallon Morrell and Dr. Thomas Cowan of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Very well said,Jura Calling! There is real chutzpah in the now-no-more-than-bought-liar WHO’s call for the protection of its propagandist burblings from the ‘false information’ of ‘conspiracy theorists’ — the very people who are awake to its treachery and blowing the whistle on it. Or perhaps ‘chutzpah’ flatters the position WHO has taken against the proliferation of fact. ‘Thickheads’ Complaint’ might be better.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 6:53 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

Thanks Sophie.

The WHO , CIA, UN among others are all part of what i call ‘The Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex. Biological attacks are an act war. When will that be acknowledged ? And those carrying them out happen to be the biggest proponents and funders of all Eugenics programmes that they re-named ‘ The Society For The Study Of Social Biology’. Eugenics had been exposed as a house of cards that was a bad disguise to hide global class and race war. The new title gave it the scientific gravitas that eugenics can never achieve as it has no science to it.

The WHO is, along with the other organisations – working for the elite. The same elite that contrived the so called ‘war’ that saw a showdown between the three allies England, America and Germany. And we watched and we bought in. Then they shifted the operation to America. They were invited to. Those who doubt that need only to re-examine the Nazi doctrine, it’s goals and their determination to created a NWO. What’s changed other than the location to operate from ?

all mention of a ‘4th reich’ or WW3/. WW2 never ended. It just went underground so it could spread it’s tentacles wider. That it appears to be an American effort is the great illusion. They’re the hit men along with the UK. The spoils are being divided by among the unholy trinity.

Think Kissinger ( German) Schwaab( German). Think Bush Sr and Jr ( German plants via daddy Prescott).. Think Planned Parenthood( sterilisation) and Gates. Think vaccines.

Gates is fronting the many headed creature that is the Elite’s apparatus.That’s th secret of his obscene wealth.

tish
tish
Oct 27, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Well said

tish
tish
Oct 27, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Yep, when you can’t isolate a virus that has caused a pandemic you can computer generate one sounds good, don’t work….well summed up Jura

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 27, 2020 8:17 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

“How come, given the alleged Covid 19 symptoms, Nobody has explained that the virus has evolved naturally. All the symptoms we’re told about suggest a man made virus. A lab idea. A Bio weapon.”

Your words. You really have quite a nerve, even for an operative.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 8:34 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Your usual well supported and well ‘researched’ reply. Your irony is bordering on comic genius. And you can’t see it.Which is ironic again 🙂

Word up everyone. If you ask this Researcher a simple question it will be called a lie( no, i don’t know how that works either). If you disagree you’re a liar, a fool or- as all paranoid delusional angst junkies will call it-‘ an ‘operative’.

” yeah man–it’s ‘the man… the men in black man..he’s like, in our phones..like in our cellar..like in my f**mg mind”

Read and learn.

tish
tish
Oct 27, 2020 9:22 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

So, are a liar, a fool or a paranoid delusional junkie Jura? I must admit after reading many of your posts I would say you are a researcher……Oh I see that name has been taken already!

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  tish

lol

I’m a ‘man in black’ too of course. Controlled opposition. I’ll consult the Bumper Book Alt cliches later. I’m probably a few more. 😉
In the meantime i need to by a virtual mosquito net for the odd nuiscance intruder.

( see that..he said ‘mosquito. He’s Bill Gates. And 5 g etc)

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 28, 2020 7:25 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

More lies.

You don’t ask questions. You made claims and inferences using leading questions. And in between in each leading question was a dishonest claim and inference. You erected straw men built on lies.

You are quoting the doctor who wrote THE CONTAGION MYTH.

You are quoting the doctor who first posited the theory in MARCH 2020 that radio waves (5g – electromagnetism) was the cause of the 1918 flu and Coronavirus. As did Arthur Firstenberg. Dr. Kaufman and others, yet you “knew of no doctors” that linked 5g to Covid19.

When it’s been written here many times by myself and others.

You never answered a single question I asked of you but came at me with the same type of gaslighting, passive aggressive lines of absolute fraud and dishonesty, the first time I ever posted on mask wearers.

And you are using words from the links I left here days ago after you lied and pretended there’s a virus, when Dr. Cowan and Jon Rappoport have proven there is no virus.

But keep lying. It’s funny.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 8:00 AM
Reply to  Researcher

There’s something wrong with you isn’t there. I was hoping it was only an ego problem. Unfortunately it’s a little more complex isn’t it. I won’t pry.

I come here hoping to exchange ideas and engage with adults who can do so. Fortunately there’s a few more here that can rather than those wanting plaudits for statements that rarely provide the proof or support they require for serious consideration.

You’re quick to make juvenile snipes at those who disagree with you and your rambling. And you’re quick enough to spit like a snake when various contributors disagree with you based on logic and broader thinking.

I respect Rappaport and applaud his industry by the way.. And his determination and spirit are admirable. But he tends to fly through topics like he’s in a race without checking their credibility and that of their sources. He preaches 24/7 so leaves no time to listen. He has a habit of not mentioning any names and sources if he likes the message of an article. I’m sure you get that.

I have been posting links and referencing people for years. If the information changes my opinions get modified . I have no need to parrot anyone on forums. If i agree i say so. If i don’t I say so. And why.

Keep your ego in check (and your hormonal levels). Above all, keep from trying to engage with me. You can lower the tone of the site all you like. That’s for the admin to tolerate. I have no need to. If a waiter tries to serve me a plate of crap he gets sent away. It’s up to him to find the mug who’ll eat it.

I suggest you try a different table.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 28, 2020 10:29 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Once again you lie. And your implication that the CIA was ever mentioned is just another of your straw men.

You attacked me the first time I ever noticed you. Out of nowhere you attacked almost everything I wrote in a comment more than a month ago by literally buffaloing me with so much bullshit and erecting straw men.

It’s a tactic that the 77th and contractors use.

Attack the messenger. Which is all you can do, which is all you have ever done.

You have refused to address the fact that you consistently are unable to tell truth. That you won’t answer a single question, but use the troll-operative tactic of impugning my character.

Where do you live?

What do you do for a living?

Nothing personal about yourself here but plenty of diversionary tactics and outright falsehoods.

It’s clear the 77th have been here all along diverting people from the truth.

tish
tish
Nov 2, 2020 8:11 PM
Reply to  Researcher

What have the questions Where do you live? and What do you do for a living? got to do with anything? …….where do you live ? and what do you do for a living?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 28, 2020 10:52 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Troll-operative tactic of impugning another’s character.

“ something wrong with you”

“an ego problem“

“Unfortunately it’s a little more complex”

“ make juvenile snipes”

“you and your rambling”

“Keep your ego in check (and your hormonal levels)”

“you’re quick enough to spit like a snake”

“ lower the tone of the site”

“ a plate of crap”

It’s obvious to everyone this type of gaslighting and parade of insults is a tactic, instead of addressing the content.

9 insults, misogynistic (hormonal levels???) and patently absurd.

PS. This is not engagement. There’s no need to respond. This is for everyone else to see how the 77th operate.

Simon Bradbury
Simon Bradbury
Oct 29, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Hi Researcher, I like your contributions. Stay with us, please.

tish
tish
Nov 2, 2020 8:06 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Jura, you have always gone with scientific theory when it comes to ‘the virus’ Koch’s 1st postulate in the first incidence Isolate the pathogen ! No one has ……you most certainly have never expressed a belief in covid-19

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Nov 2, 2020 8:43 PM
Reply to  tish

Absolutely Tish. If those who have planned and carried out this long term plan of population control on the grounds that they want a world run by Science because everything should be concrete and quantifiable then it’s up to them to show us the evidence of the covid. Then to show us how they pinpointed a flu like pandemic occurring just before the end of Trump’s term in office. How can Science do that ?

If we play by the bosses’ rules then it isn’t for me to prove a negative, the onus is on them to prove I represent those who are wrong. They can use the magic of their ‘science’.

As for the rest as above..it’s an old song . The internet’s crammed with the paranoid delusions of those who can’t control their thought processing. Legends in their own lunchtime. Heads filled with memes , cliches and alternative personas.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have Donald on line two….;)

tish
tish
Nov 12, 2020 1:16 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

It is a scientist’s dream to say my hypothesis was knocked down.

That is how real science moves forward. I am afraid those rules have got lost in a mumbo jumbo of pseudo science ie I put my lab coat on……..I am a doctor you can trust me ! I can flash all my charts at you and Joe public is wowed.

I wish someone would say ‘let me look at those charts and graphs and histograms and pie charts you have there’

As for guessing a pandemic would happen, well it seems an impossible task…..but Influenza was said to be caused by an influence of the planets…a sickness from outer space…imagine the hype…….. Koch would fear for his postulates !

The certainty of a pandemic before the end of Trump’s term in office….well it has to be engineered, hasn’t it? I wonder if Donald is staying indoors sulking because he wants another term seeing as covid-19 has had a second surge and he wants one too.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 12, 2020 1:49 AM
Reply to  tish

There is a goldmine of learning to be yielded from observing some of the golden rules of mass hypnosis and the harnessing of the public’s ignorance and innocence. It’s worryingly simple and frighteningly effective. See Hitler and the throngs of thousands under his spell.

Early into the process is the force feeding of the crowd. Once their individual identities and minds have been put to sleep and gently moulded together into one larger mind that’s new to all of them, the fingers ‘click’ and they ‘wake’. That’s when the golden hour arrives.

A crowd of like -minded and passionate patriots with a sense of belonging and in need of inspiration and, above all, instructions stand in expectation. They feel the drive, they just don’t know of what. This is when the behaviour patterns are conditioned in. What they must do and not do; how they must behave and not behave ; how they must think and what they must agree with.

They were primed and ready so they never questioned the wisdom and expertise of the men in white coats with glasses and dull eyes. They assume they know and therefore they must follow.

That white coats and dubious credentials are then bolstered by the semiotics; the advertisers dream technique. They hammer home the short and catchy mantras that are easily committed to memory and force feed the images if graphs and pie charts ( the ‘sciencey’ bits). This is accepted – again – by the same sheep susceptible to mesmerism.

Even if this bullshit was exposed for the psyop it was always meant to be, in 20 years time, the mere mention of ‘covid’ or ‘pandemic’ will instantly bring images of masks to your mind. Of empty streets and endless queues and a world put on hold, frozen in time. That’s the power of the magic cocktail which is comprised of 5 measures of dumbing down, two measures of gullibility, 10 measures of semiotics and any amount of propaganda you care to risk.

It’s just as well that not everybody is so susceptible to hypnotism…

As for Trump, he almost gave the game away. His mention of HCQ / Zinc is still the only reliable cure. It doesn’t make a profit though. And it removes the ultimate aim of having a legitimate reason to vaccinate the population of the world. Trump has paid the price.

Biden- for the last 6 months- has had the covid script and that of the trilateral commission forced into his head. Why else did he appear to be dragging his robotic carcass across the stage on the election run-up. His ‘running mate’ looked like his care worker. Snap out of it Joe- you’re on now.

tish
tish
Nov 12, 2020 5:55 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

This is why I tell you to write ! I must admit I felt a bit flabbergasted when Trump ‘called out Fauci’ I always thought Trump was going to be the fall guy…… and yet there are a couple of things that didn’t ring true…his fake nooz, his alternative facts. Mr Orange laughed at because he was dumb Were we made to believe he was a dimwit for an alternative reason…..someone wanted Hilary Clinton well away from the White House. I must admit it has been an event that has made me think on a different level…..and that’s because I have been fortunate enough to learn from you.

tish
tish
Nov 12, 2020 6:25 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

You must write it all…you say it so well….my atitude towards Biden and Trump has changed…..and Biden comes out the baddie not Trump

tish
tish
Oct 27, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Researcher

An operative ?

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  tish

( shh yea..one of those CIA shills pretending to expose the BS of the CIA ) 😉

Someone
Someone
Oct 28, 2020 6:10 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

Are these references from 2020? How do we square this with the fact that a study from 2008 claims to have used SARS-CoV-2 material?

https://jcm.asm.org/content/46/5/1734

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 7:48 AM
Reply to  Someone

Can’t both be true ? The 2020 reference isn’t denying the existence of SARS-CoV-2. It’s just more specifically discussing it’s ability to infect particular cells in particular ways with a view to connecting dots to solve the mystery of where the Covid 19 virus is and how it’s working. It’s examining how deadly SARS-CoV-2 is. What exactly is the aim of the 2008 study in relation to the Covid 19 effect ?

I’m interested in how the name Covid 19 was the final choice agreed upon after two earlier ones. And why it was mistakenly identified as a pneumonia, thus treated with ventilators that made the condition worse and brought death about quicker. And why it was only through renegade medical staff that we learned that the patients were actually presenting symptoms almost identical to altitude sickness, ergo requiring blood transfusions, not ventilators. That’s’ not sounding like a SARS related anything. Or pneumonia.

And why was there so much disinformation of how this ‘virus’ jumped species on it’s way to becoming able to transmit human-to-human ? Or was to divert suspicion from human intervention into the ‘evolution’ of the virus .. ; that it was a lab creation ?Or that the lung / breathing difficulties were being inflicted by something more ‘external’ rather than a virus.

All answers will become clear if they ever show us what it looks like. Those in Science and politics realise that the longer it goes on the more suspicious people become and ask that question. The ‘it keeps mutating’ narrative will get old fast And logic will lead us to think the new game of numbers is just a set of dramatic gestures to make us believe it’s serious- again. Everything- for their success- hangs on the depth of our fear and how many buy in.

Someone
Someone
Oct 28, 2020 9:15 AM
Reply to  Jura Calling

I’m just mentioning this paper because its mere existence proves that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t a novel coronavirus. Which begs the questions: if you’re going to computer-generate a virus and present it to the public as novel, why take the name of an old virus to do that? Or is it possible that SARS-CoV-2 was already computer-generated in 2008 and they simply counted on nobody finding that out? Are they really that stupid? Or is there some *other* level of deceit being played on us?

So many questions.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  Someone

There is a possibility that the 2008 research may well have been that rare creature- a genuine piece of honest research with good intention. Unfortunately there are so many demons who have been pursuing another goal since the turn of the 20th century. It’s easy to conflate the two if you only look at the sign above the door.

There is another deceit. Pre and post 2008. A line of continuation has been recorded and the resultant ‘remedies’ too. Should a topic arise here relating to that I’ll put both up..

Heidi
Heidi
Oct 30, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Someone

the ‘vaccine’ industry have been crooks all along. sars, measles, flu, mumps, hpv, polio, smallpox etc. all fraud.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 28, 2020 1:56 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

For me, the priority is the free availability of the proven preventive, therapeutic and palliative treatments, for whatever is causing (the few) otherwise healthy people to fall ill. Never mind if the Dread Illness is plain old flu. These treatments make all the draconian interference invalid.

Though multiple viruses are said to be capable of causing flu, they did not distinguish the resulting illnesses, until this supposed exception came along in late 2019.

As matters stand, (a) the PTB have worked hard to villify the proven treatments, an to impose new expensive and ominous ones (b) getting any illness, not necessarily cold or flu, has become a major concern or even a crisis.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The hope is that we’ll reflect on the length of time we had to put our lives on hold. The damage inflicted to the world economy, the businesses that sank and the millions who became unemployed. Add to that the frustration of being denied ‘normality’ and freedom and we’ll add two and two and get 7. The conclusion being ”’well the politicians wouldn’t cause all that just to sell vaccines”. Sheep logic. They’re right. They’d do it to switch the human race off though. Create a race of barely conscious drones who don’t know the difference between a democracy and a new jacket.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Oct 29, 2020 7:03 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

The trouble is,if you google these things like ” has the virus been isolated?” The answer is yes! The people who believe the jive wouldn’t dare look at this website, and they’re the ones who have to be missionaried.

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 29, 2020 7:09 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Google yep. The whore that sells favours to each and any government. It’s up to it’s neck in this shit. As is Silicone Valley, Satan’s back yard. That place has more of it’s snakes at the Bilderberg meetings than the banks now.

Two places not to trust:

Google . It’s two things ; it’s the biggest disinformation tool on the planet for the elite; it’s nothing more than a confirmation bias machine due to the way it’s algorithms work.

Yahoo Answers. Because it’s like a home for the mentally hilarious.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 27, 2020 4:47 PM


Definitely some pushback.

Jogging
Jogging
Oct 27, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

CIA: All is going well, as planned, We control the Covid measures and the revolt. we the US want to see an end to the EU. It protects good working conditions, health care and good jobs, that is just not acceptable, that money belongs to US corporations.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 5:13 PM
Reply to  Jogging

“We control the Covid measures and the revolt”

Sounds like someone has been watching too many old reruns of THE OUTER LIMITS

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 28, 2020 5:59 PM
Reply to  Jogging

In the early 1990s I attended a talk at a think tank in London in which the then head of the CIA was one of the speakers (I was a journalist at the time and tickets to these events get sent to newspapers, news agencies and so on). He had no special insights and was somewhat arrogant about the USA’s position in the world – the USSR had recently dissolved and that was no doubt part of his attitude.
I actually think the “CIA” does not have the degree of control it wants, and that is part of our chaotic reality. Nor is the USA itself a model of stability at the moment.

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 27, 2020 4:18 PM

Cass Sunstein is a proponent of euthanasia, including non-voluntary euthanasia and organ harvesting without informed consent.

“Once we know that people are human and have some Homer Simpson in them, then there’s a lot that can be done to manipulate them.”

Sunstein penned an essay in 1996 for the Yale Law Journal titled “The Right To Die”. Sunstein advocates for public intervention that contravene the wishes of the individual:

“Some of the strongest cases for public interference with private judgments involve myopia, cognitive error or motivational problems, or similar distortions.”

With regards to suicide he writes:

“Highly publicized suicides can create bandwagon or cascade

effects.

Of course we can also imagine cases in which a suicide may be warranted

and in which assistance in suicide is morally acceptable and perhaps morally responsible.“

“In his 2008 book, “Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth and Happiness,” Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler discussed multiple legal scenarios regarding organ donation. One possibility presented in the book, termed by Sunstein as “routine removal,” posits that “the state owns the rights to body parts of people who are dead or in certain hopeless conditions, and it can remove their organs without asking anyone’s permission.” “

careful
careful
Oct 28, 2020 5:53 AM
Reply to  Researcher

What a gem of a Government Policy maker. It makes Hitler blush!

Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
Oct 27, 2020 4:13 PM

I would like to suggest an experiment with covidian cultists. Give them a paraphrase of Dr Whitty’s statement in his May 2020 press presentation that covid is harmless to the great majority and only a minority (of a minority of a minority of a minority) will die from it without mentioning his name. Ask the person if they consider the orignal speaker to be a ‘conspiracy theorist’ (null hypothesis – answer probably yes). Then tell them who said it and ask if they still consider him a conspiracy theorist.

A video of the presentation as a refresher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg

It would be very interesting hear the outcome if anyone tries it.

Kevin Hart
Kevin Hart
Oct 27, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

That is actually an excellent idea! Thanks for sharing.

ame
ame
Oct 27, 2020 5:25 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

Halloween is going to be interesting this year so are people who celebrate it going to put masks on top of the masks or take there masks off ?
is there slogans available for us less informed.

trick or treat stand away 2 feet 
sanitize the sweets to save lives STSTSL for short
Covid safe space porch

Have they developed a app or had a live tv announcement about this?  are the witches monsters dead spirits keyworker.>?s 

Hugh O’Neill
Hugh O’Neill
Oct 27, 2020 6:24 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

I sent that clip to a relative, who is a UK trained doctor. He ‘explained’ that Whitty was simply trying not to create a panic which might overwhelm hospitals, and furthermore, there was a shortage of PPE for medical staff which had to be kept for medical staff. As Mark Twain said: it is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.

dion matthews
dion matthews
Oct 31, 2020 3:29 AM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

Im going to try it in the Daily Mail comments section…well…i would, however there is a special kind of the indoctrinated fraggle that resides there….they truly are incapable of accepting anything as truthful unless it is delivered via their own television in their own home or via their phone and their favourite newspaper….these people really are more to be pitied than scorned because its painfully apparent that if and when we come out of this scheittshow they are going to need the resources of professionals normally more at home decompressing ex cult members…the level of mind lavage is astonishing…its actually a sight to behold ….to bring them to the level of finding their own arse with both hands will take many hours of therapy…thats if you can tempt them out from behind their sofas of safety

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 4:02 PM

It’s been a long time since I looked in on RT, expecially with regard to covid, but upon paying a visit today I was very heartened to see – along with a headline betraying ignorance of the filthiest kind – a comments section which was absolutely crammed with the sort of observations we often see here at OffG.
Perhaps RT is just “coat-trailing”, or being provocative…?
It doesn’t really matter. Its readers are clearly paying attention.

Drooze
Drooze
Oct 28, 2020 11:16 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Yeah, the comments are completely at odds with the editorial content of the media outlet. It used to be what the Guardian was about 10 years ago, but to offset this contradiction the Guardian rarely opens the comments section up on anything relevant nowadays. When they do, it’s wargamed by an army of pro establishment trolls to maintain the narrative.

RT, to their credit, do open up comments sections on all their articles (but this is a problem as it leaks truth!) and what they are doing to dilute these informed views, which are in overwelming dominance, is moderating them down to a manageable number (all my comments are instantly censured). I would say they may begin to do what the Guardian has done, because the views expressed there do not tow the establishment narrative. Any outlet revealing truth will be dealt with.

RT is an odd one as it still contains real investigative journalism at times (mainly as a bulkward against the anti Russian propaganda in the western media) but as it is run by the new (old actually) capitalist elites in Russia, it will slowly unravel and descend into meaningless sensationalism. Already the quality has diminished since it was set up. Anything big business gets its hands on is reduced to BS. What the corporatocracy have done to TV, they are presently trying to do with the internet!

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 28, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  Drooze

RT is better than Western MSM, at least when it comes to Europe or N. America. I am not sure about its reporting close to home, where I suspect it has to watch what it says.

Terry
Terry
Oct 27, 2020 3:11 PM

Great! Cass Sunstein, the modern-day equivalent of Joseph Goebbels as Propaganda Minister.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 4:11 PM
Reply to  Terry

I found this little quote from him:

“People should be given information only when it would significantly improve their lives”.

Thus confirming that many of today’s people in “high positions of authority” are actually mentally deficient.
They can probably add up dollars 24/7 / 365, but where on earth did this idea of his come from, that people are GIVEN information?
People with curious minds search for information until they find it. They do NOT sit around waiting for somebody to give it to them…
And, unfortunately for him, those curious minds are many.

scott work-shy
scott work-shy
Oct 27, 2020 3:03 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/f2b92a97-66d8-42b5-8d70-6a38c29b82e1

Interesting article on the BBC’s webshite today about coercive control including the following paragraph titled “What is coercive control?”

Coercive control often can’t be pinned down to one event in a relationship, but is the accumulation of words, behaviours and threats that humiliate, isolate and control the victim – leaving them without freedom and very little of ‘themselves’ left.

mmmm, sounds familiar…

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 27, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  scott work-shy

I love the little disclaimer at the start:

“Contains upsetting details.”

They don’t put that at the top of Covid articles do they? That’s because, with Covid, they want to upset you.

Still, if you do read it and feel upset, there’s a link at the bottom to cheer you up:

“Every question you ever had about female ejaculation, answered”

I had so many! (Questions, not female ejaculations!)

kevin
kevin
Oct 27, 2020 4:40 PM
Reply to  scott work-shy

That is rich coming from the BBC. This is precisely what we are experiencing with the government’s (and media’s) horribly abusive treatment of the population and all of those “relationship experts” should be able to easily recognize it for what it is. Of course, they are silent along with almost everyone else.

Mike Gee
Mike Gee
Oct 27, 2020 2:54 PM

The Covid cult are panicking as their inevitable arrest for crimes of genocide and terrorism draws ever closer.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 3:07 PM
Reply to  Mike Gee

Do you really think it is inevitable?
They have unbelievable amounts of money available to bribe, threaten and eliminate the people who want to arrest them.
Look at Blair, Cheney, Rice, Rove, etc., all of whom are still on the loose after their 2001-2003 crimes…

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  wardropper

True. But now there is the activation of a neat little instrument of the law in the offing: an international class action suit. Dr Reiner Fuellmich has announced its imminent filing in the US. All hard facts are on the side of the bringers of this suit, so the success of this class action is highly probable. The suit will be levelled against individual actors who have been influential in imposing the COVD-19 hardships: both personal and ecomonic injury, on a vast area of the world. Of course, their institutions and organisations will also be held liable. That means a lot of money to be stumped up in compensation by the COV-liars and bullies. Mike Gee is right! Or so I pray.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 7:43 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

I hope you’re right.
But haven’t the ringleaders already ensured that they are immune from prosecution due to … whatever … diplomatic immunity … genocide insurance…?

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 8:33 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I think this indemnity applies only to the possible ill affects of the vaccines. It surely cannot apply also to civil matters such as reponsibility for the loss of jobs and the consequent financial sufferings of the job-losers. There is also the issue of the wilful deception of the public (by newspapers, by government officals, etc.) about the nature of the COVID-19: it is novel, it is viciously contagious, it has been identified and profiled, etc.

In any case, I don’t think that a very well qualified and experienced legal beagle like Dr Fuellmich, a barrister admitted 26 years ago to the bar in both Germany and the US, would be party to a class action suit that has no prospect of wringing money out of wealthy offenders against the members of the public. Do look up Dr Fuellmich. He is superbly interesting. The OffGuardian has run an article on him.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

Again, I hope you’re right, but these abominable characters just make up the rules as they go along.
Regarding the US Constitution, our Bill of Rights, the desperately illegal “Patriot” Act, etc. etc. – none of the recent gross breaches of human dignity mean a damn thing to them.
I am certainly familiar with Fuellmich, and wish him the best of luck.
I have read most of what OffG, and others, have to say about him.

It’s just that one has had one’s hopes high in the past – like A&Efor911Truth and all kinds of other strong, organized initiatives – but the standard MSM response is simply to act as if they didn’t exist, with the result that most people have never heard of them.

That said, don’t worry, I am not a quitter. 🙂

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  wardropper

‘It’s just that one has had one’s hopes high in the past …’

I recognise this one! And I take your point. 🙂

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Oct 29, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Michael O’Bernicia is pursuing a private prosecution against the government for fraud. Apparently he has a top legal team and has served notice on all the MPs! His website the bernician seems to be down today. He appears to have been successful in prosecuting RBS and others in the past. I’ve only just been made aware of him, so I can’t be certain about anything.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  Mike Gee

Also the video appears to show about 16 people protesting, and 160 police looking tough…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 2:29 PM

Doctor who gave evidence to U.S. Congress says people will still mask themselves and avoid others – even after Covid.

Dr Krutika Kuppalli Tweets that people are wrong to think that a vaccine will return life to normal.

I feel like there is this perception that once we have a #CoronavirusVaccine life will go back to normal.

Life will not be like it was pre-COVID. Even after we have a #vaccine you will still need to use good hand hygiene, maintain physical distance, avoid crowds and wear masks

But the Corporatist Media may be seeing the slow creep of common sense. The Daily Telegraph reports: No difference’ in Covid rates between travellers and those staying in UK.

Only 0.58 per cent of those who had travelled abroad in the most recent 30 days had tested positive for the virus, compared to 0.49 per cent who remained in the UK.

The Guardian tells the truth without knowing it, at least in the headline: Survey uncovers widespread belief in ‘dangerous’ Covid conspiracy theories

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 3:10 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 3:12 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

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WE WILL NOT BE SLAVES!

James Robertson
James Robertson
Oct 27, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

More truth: “the YouGov-Cambridge Globalism Project”

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 27, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

46% of Greeks are Covid skeptics, according to a survey I glanced at – it might have been on The Grauniad. The equivalent UK rate was 18% or thereabouts.

Someone
Someone
Oct 27, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

Do you have stats for Germany? Or a link?
Asking “for a friend”.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 28, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  Someone

https://www.thenationalherald.com/archive_general_news_greece/arthro/covid_19_numbers_46_of_greeks_think_death_toll_pumped_up-1098057/

I don’t know about Germany, but here is a link, although I think The Grauniad was the first place I read it. I am not surprised Greeks are less sold on this than many others. They are not one of the more obedient nations in Europe and had experience of foreign occupation, martial law and civil war in the last century.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 28, 2020 6:23 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

The belief the death toll is exaggerated is interesting – the MSM has managed to stampede people in many other places into thinking Covid has killed far more people than it actually has.

Someone
Someone
Oct 29, 2020 7:34 AM
Reply to  Waldorf

Thank you, I’ll check that out!

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 27, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

90% of statistics are made up. The other 47% can’t be trusted.

tish
tish
Oct 28, 2020 12:54 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

True

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 28, 2020 1:29 PM
Reply to  Jura Calling

I shit you not: on at least two occasions, in response to some appeal-to-statistics during an in-person argument, I have said to my counterpart, “You know, 78% of statistics are just made up on the spot,” to which they replied, with a certain chastened urgency, “Really?

Jura Calling
Jura Calling
Oct 28, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

and i bet he’s old enough to vote 😉

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 27, 2020 2:28 PM

WHO Taps ‘Anti-Conspiracy’ Crusader to Sway Public Opinion on COVID Vaccine

As if the psycho hasn’t already been fully involved with the Covid phase of The Project for years already.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 2:27 PM

Doctor who gave evidence to U.S. Congress says people will still mask themselves and avoid others – even after Covid.

Dr Krutika Kuppalli Tweets that people are wrong to think that a vaccine will return life to normal.

I feel like there is this perception that once we have a #CoronavirusVaccine life will go back to normal.

Life will not be like it was pre-COVID. Even after we have a #vaccine you will still need to use good hand hygiene, maintain physical distance, avoid crowds and wear masks

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 27, 2020 2:06 PM

Catte Black and Kit Knightly. I just tried to message you but your inbox is apparently full. That might be why you did not respond to my article on killing a friend with a COVID-19 vaccine a few days back.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 3:10 PM
Reply to  John Goss

What covid19 vaccine?
Do you mean a trial run?

Admin1
Admin
Admin1
Oct 27, 2020 4:00 PM
Reply to  John Goss

What email are you sending to?

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 27, 2020 5:13 PM
Reply to  Admin1

Today’s I sent to OffGuardian ([email protected])
[email protected]

The Kill or maim a friend for £100 it appears I only sent to the second one. I’ll try sending it again to the first. Should be there within ten minutes.

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 27, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  John Goss

I’ve sent it to admin.

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 27, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  John Goss

undeliverable.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 28, 2020 1:30 AM
Reply to  John Goss

That address is deactivated – only the gmail one works

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 28, 2020 2:55 AM

I’ve just resent yesterday’s email. And yesterday I resent Friday’s email on Kill or maim a friend for £100 (about vaccine tests). Did you get them?

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Oct 27, 2020 1:38 PM

Can we really rely on the advice of an organisation that is ‘driven by donor interests’? Especially when one of the donors was politely asked by India to fuck off, after their ‘advice’ ensured lots of kids there caught polio.

Obomber or his admin were not known for their information quality. Even the slogan obomber campaigned with was a lie, so no quality of information there.
Sunstein is a maniac put in charge of a mental institute. He seems to come from the same mould as Mcnamara. I thought that mould rotted years ago.

Overseeing policies relating to information quality is a good way of ensuring that propagandists and trolls get all they need to deceive the public. This deception may one day cost many people their lives, but the safety of the public is the last thing on the minds of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. They have a job to do for the NWO fanatics.
I have encountered many of these trolls online and find them lacking. They are easily spotted, usually with a broken record under their arm. They also have chips on their shoulders and are easily rattled.

I’m surprised that Hill + Knowlton are still viable after the lies they told the British public for the money. They should have been prosecuted for their treason against the British public. Lying for a living isn’t an honest profession. Honest business, if it exists, should boycott these shysters.

IMO, the WHO needn’t worry over being infiltrated by Sunstein clowns because they are doing such a good job of ruining their own reputation. Quite soon everyone will know where the WHO gets its funding. Gate’s will join Soros in the gutter and they can duke it out over who is going to be top rat. With Gate’s old man running the human extermination plan for the UN, Gates has the edge.
The WHO, the UN, et al, are merely rubber stamps for western propaganda and it is now very obvious. Close them all down or have them refurbished.

Dodoox
Dodoox
Oct 27, 2020 12:58 PM

NYC Out of Control: A Look at Sunday on the Streets of New York
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s71AL_1603762071

Some good news, the Civil war is going very well. this democracy nonsense, will be over by Christmas.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 3:30 PM
Reply to  Dodoox

Lots of NLP and trance behaviour going on. If you repeat a phrase in an emotional state, it programs the mind to enter hypnotic state, theta state.

This then prompts the opponent to lose his cool. Then the others from the first camp join the attack, as you see crowds of 20 somethings using rocks to beat 50 year olds.

The film itself is manipulative. It is shot in a way that exaggerates the numbers involved. Hollywood has been recruited to run the news. It is getting close the the way NBC shoots the Olympics.

Soon I expect to watch an Antifa member having his or her breakfast, choosing clothes of a matching shade of black and setting off for the protest.

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 9:51 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

With a GoPro camera on his helmet for 1st person rioting perspective?
On the one hand adventure/thrill seeking, otoh sad and depressing
for the audience to witness. A sad adventure.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 27, 2020 11:55 AM

Fraudian headline says UK death toll currently 61,116.

Invert that and what do you see?…

TUTONIC
TUTONIC
Oct 27, 2020 12:08 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Oh, how they laugh at us.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Oct 27, 2020 2:32 PM
Reply to  TUTONIC

Laugh at us? Harder than we will ever know. As someone already linked below:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8875201/Has-Covid-killed-flu.html

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 3:17 PM

The daily mail has unwittingly posed an intelligence test there…
The correct answer is, of course, “Covid IS the ‘flu”.
I think a lot of people will get full marks for it too – which probably accounts for the Groaniad’s sudden need to print, “Survey uncovers widespread belief in ‘dangerous’ Covid conspiracy theories”, as mentioned above…

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 27, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  wardropper

That pesky flu – where did it go?

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 7:30 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Something pretty worrying attaches to this ‘dangerous Covid conspiracy theories’: Her Majesty actually waded into politcs on 5 October 2020 to urge her subjects to trust the estalblished news media, and to avoid the other news sources: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/oct/05/queen-elizabeth-stresses-need-for-trusted-news-sources-during-covid-crisis.

This should have been pretty explosive, but there has not been even a flutter. The Guardian did not allow comments.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 9:28 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

Her Majesty has been very industrious for many decades now.
But at last she has outlived her usefulness, and, although I can understand her wish to go down fighting, she is now something of a menace to society.
It’s pasture time.

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 10:00 PM
Reply to  wardropper

‘But at last she has outlived her usefulness ..’

One would hope so; she is 93 years old. Yet she stepped outside her constitutional role to plug the lying MSM and condemn other sources of news. Somehow, I cannot imagine that a person her age would feel moved to do something like this. So I suspect that someone put her up to it. And that thought gives me the creeps.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 27, 2020 11:31 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

Yes. She has become a mere mouthpiece – not that she was ever much more than that…

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 28, 2020 6:17 PM
Reply to  wardropper

She made an address calling on Scots to vote no in the independence referendum in 2014. She does say what “they” tell her to say…

Ort
Ort
Oct 28, 2020 8:19 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

They probably just dusted off and updated the same address King George III made to the North American colonies in 1776.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Oct 29, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

There’s a lot of odd things going on with the monarch. Wasn’t there something about opening Parliament in her track suit? Then there was a bill in Parliament that suggested that Parliament was sovereign not the Queen or the people. Is she being squeezed out and if so,like her or not,due to her constitutional role,it might affect us negatively. Sorry to be so vague,but I am. I mean I’ve never taken any interest in the Royal Family but I can see us ending up in a dictatorship having been fooled into it by the ruse of getting shot of a dead weight that was in fact a legal protection.

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 29, 2020 9:34 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Nixon, as I understand it, ‘parliament is sovereign’ means that parliament makes the law, and no-one is above that law. This is a Magna Carta jurisprudence, thus the common law. Charles I tried to wrest back the sovereign’s supreme power, but the Oliver Cromwell led parliament had him beheaded. Since then, the monarch has not been above parliament, but is nonetheless the Sovereign of the Realm: he/she reigns over his/her subjects. So when we say that the Queen is ‘above politics’, we mean that she does not get caught up in the rough-and-tumble of parliamentary business, nor in politics generally. We do not mean that she is not subject to the law, like all her subjects.

I do not fear that the Queen will be ‘squeezed out’. That should be impossible: her subjects are here to defend her. But I do fear the Queen’s being pushed into political activity. And I saw her backing of ‘trusted’ news sources, and condemning other such sources, as just such a push, from whatever quarter. Politicking reduces the elevated status of the monarch. I smell a constitutional crisis looming in that.

Waldorf said: ‘She made an address calling on Scots to vote no in the independence referendum in 2014.’ I should like to defend this act as part of the proper role of the monarch. I.e., the Queen appealed to her subjects to seek their continuing loyalty to the Realm.

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Oct 30, 2020 12:59 PM
Reply to  Sophie Johnson

Good points Sophie, though it looks as if the subjects can’t even protect themselves at the moment.

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 30, 2020 1:47 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

Nixon, I’m setting a lot of store by the upcoming Class Action suit that Dr Reiner Fuellmich announced. Lord Sumption certainly gave that tonnes of grist for the mill recently. The rule of law might yet re-assert itself.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 27, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Bingo! I just had a customer text me, and she goes ‘I see that Europe and the United States are getting it bad again.
I was very tempted to ask her what happened to the flu this year and what time of the year was it in Europe.
In Australia, the flu literally disappeared this year.

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 9:53 PM

“The flu is dead, long live the flu!!”
“3 Huzzahs for Covid!”

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 27, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Oh that’s good! (Also, my birthday happens to be on the 19th. This does not bode well!)

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Oct 27, 2020 7:12 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Ah, yes! There’s nothing like a palindrome to show how very clever one is. Did Boris and his advisers come up with this one?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Oct 27, 2020 11:39 AM

The idea of government agents carrying out psychological operations on social media is not far fetched.

Of course it is not far fetched. It is a well established fact that could only be denied by a naive ignoramus or propagandist. The minutes of SAGE, the British government’s scientific advisory group, show that the British government has been conducting a campaign to increase fear and promote moralising and social disapproval so as to elicit compliance with its coronavirus policies.

careful
careful
Oct 27, 2020 1:21 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

.. and everything indicates spending on propaganda is increasing astronomically.
Ironically, during a pandemic (supposedly a health crisis) health spendings are in free fall, not only in the UK but many other countries as well where health funding cuts have became the norm.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Oct 27, 2020 1:27 PM
Reply to  careful

In Britain the national health service has been virtually shut down since March. They are apparently protecting it in case it is needed to combat a deadly virus.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 3:09 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

It was fashionable not long ago to say, “my religion is the NHS”. Where are they now to defend their religion?

Waldorf
Waldorf
Oct 27, 2020 5:07 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

They have to destroy the health clinic in order to save it…

tito zember
tito zember
Oct 27, 2020 11:26 AM

There is no such thing as a ‘globalist agenda’ or the NWO, there are only Empires. The only game in town today is American hegemony, backed up by a vast military industrial complex, an omni-present surveillance machine and multiply layers of administration. It is absurd that I need to define it, but I will, it has a vast propaganda capacity via its ‘think-tanks’ & universities pumping out political, economic, social and scientific research and propaganda which it uses to influence the worlds direction of travel, in their own economic and strategic interests.

That is in addition to spreading their interests via diplomacy, captive world media, NGO’s, pressure groups, lobbying groups and individual CIA agents on the ground monitoring all business, military and political activity in its client states and rising competitor ‘enemy’ countries. Add to that the new American tech which has become the most valuable tool of all, capabler of turning the political mood in any country on the planet in a weekend, via their social media, search algorithms and videos.

All funded off the back off the unit of international exchange, made compulsory under threat of military or political destruction, the dollar.

Set against all this raw power, you people claim there is a conspiracy called the ‘globalist agenda’, a theory which has its root in Adolf Hitler’s own ‘international jewish conspiracy’ of the 1930’s and which is now pushed by the puppets of the US deep state, far-right, alt-right christian, white supremacist groups in the US, and their agents overseas.
The US has the luxury of writing it’s own and world history via films and CIA funded video casts, telling people what to believe and think. They tell the working class to think its lizards, the middle class think it’s incompetent government that is causing them to be impoverished, they tell you anything but the truth.

This story is just camouflage, a deceit intended to whitewash the US out of geopolitical and international affaires in the minds of the average joe, at a time when Washington, albeit in decline, is setting the political agenda around the world.

You make this claim when there are no structures, no military, and no visible political party acting under the banner of a ‘New World Order’ or capable of doing anything you claim.

US Oligarchs are the senior civil servants of American imperial interests, just as much as their military generals are, and as the managers of the East India company were to the British Empire. They are not allowed or would not want an independent agenda. If you asked them, they would tell you they are proud Americans and citizens of the greatest country in the history of world.

The US currently follows an internationalist global corporate economic model, which manufactures goods in the cheapest country to make the most profits. If that changes, due to a collapse in it’s own economy or due to a change of political climate in Washington, it will be a political decision made by the Empire, not a sudden failure of the ‘globalists’ agenda as you would claim.

People would understand the world better by reading Roman history and the history of the British Empire and its East india company rather than Mein Kampf, which seems to inform this anti-intellectual nonsense.

The average man in the street doesn’t follow world diplomacy, geopolitics and the infighting, extortion, looting and blackmail happening every day in the battle between empires. He doesn’t see the USA in action because the media hide its every action, which gives you the opportunity to fill that information void with your silly Nazi fantasy, distracting from the elephant in the room, The American Empire, which the controlled media are busy dressing up as a cuddly benevolent bear.

I think you are trying to hide US empire, it’s ambition and its methods behind a spooky fantasy, which has no foundation in reality, unlike the 800 US American military bases around the world and the corrupt Washington elite which are very real and a very dangerous threat to the world.

James Robertson
James Robertson
Oct 27, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  tito zember

Utter manure of the lowest and most base variety. The empire is dead, replaced by global tyranny and you either a whore or an unmitigated moron.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Oct 27, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  tito zember

Hello tito zember: I had to read your post a couple times, as there are many valid points being stated. The only thing I disagree with is the claim that the show is via “US empire”.

As in nearly every country in the world, the financial system within United States has been controlled by European financial interests since day one. The American revolution was a complete failure, as the US failed to prohibit all forms of international trade, currency arbitrage, and usury banking. Every attempt to set up an independent currency has ended in presidential assassinations or financial bankruptcy.

How many world citizens actually possess clear title to the land under their feet? Near zero. The world is a kingdom/plantation owned by royal families and their assigns.

As in nearly all claimed Nations and States, the appearance of civil prosperity is only an illusion, a convenient mirage.

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 10:12 PM
Reply to  tito zember

You posted the “empires, not globalism” suggestion already with a different name.

“…silly NaZi fantasy…” The unification of europe was once a silly NaZi fantasy.
The silly NaZi fantasies and science were incorporated with the american MIC
via operation Paperclip. And europa’s peoples and its nations’citizens were
and are terrorised through operation Gladio.

The US empire is under the control of Israel, via the AIPAC oligarchs.
Zionist Occupied Government.

Denis
Denis
Oct 27, 2020 10:53 AM

Above, are the conspiracy theories 77th Brigade. are pushing. Don’t pretend there are opposed to these nonsense stories.

Jay
Jay
Oct 27, 2020 10:52 AM

No hyperbole. This is fascism. And to think St Jeremy Corbyn congratulated Jacinda Ardern on her election win

Humanity is at the mercy of PCR test Russian roulette. The Corona Scandal is a crime against humanity

https://twitter.com/Francis_Hoar/status/1320854804835586048?s=20

Denis
Denis
Oct 27, 2020 10:50 AM

Who knew that the neo-nazis like those at UK fifth Column, would be so promoted as an ‘alternative voice’ by the US social media, to fight government fascist lockdowns. Controlled opposition perhaps. I dread to think what kinds of ‘lockdowns’ and tyranny you lot at UK Fifth column, who post here, would institute if you ever came to power. Maybe you would be shooting immigrants at the border as sport? It looks like the Covid measures opposition is being funnelled into the arms of the far-right and moderates like me are being squeezed out and silenced.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 11:42 AM
Reply to  Denis

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 11:47 AM
Reply to  S Cooper
Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Oct 27, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  Denis

Sined

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 27, 2020 4:37 PM
Reply to  Denis

Well as long as you keep up the good …moderate activity by moderately being moderate.

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 10:31 PM
Reply to  Denis

I vote we focus on Covid bureaucrat fraud and overreach,
because if we were to shoot immigrants at the border or elsewhere
that would only benefit the bureaucrat liars thieves and murderers.

And the shooting comment is made in jest, just so you know.

“…squeezed out and silenced.”
Might you be part of the working class, over 40 and a member of the pale face
men folk that are disenfranchised? I know it is not of any help, but you are not alone.

https://youtu.be/fjWzREQ96zs

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 27, 2020 10:23 AM

Tedros Gebreyesus? Cass Sunstein? Hill & Knowlton? Jesus! It’s like the Illuminati’s Greatest Hits. (BTW, for those who have never heard of Sunstein, you should also know that he’s married to Samantha Power.)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2020 10:31 AM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s start giving
There’s a choice we’re making
We’re saving our own lives
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

So let’s all get the that shot yeah?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 10:45 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

If you cut out the lines about Africa and just leave the first three lines of each stanza… that NWO anthem is pretty blatant. It also fits rather well with WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM: 8 predictions for the world in 2030, listicles being the way the Mockingbird journalists get the young to read their propaganda. Of course it’s not meant to be organ harvesting in 2030 but 3D, bio-printed organs. Believe that when you see it. And they’ll still need the adrenochrome.

There comes a time
When we heed a certain call
When the world must come together as one

We can’t go on
Pretending day-by-day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let’s start giving

Send them your heart
So they’ll know that someone cares
And their lives will be stronger and free

CyndeeJoan
CyndeeJoan
Oct 27, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus
James Robertson
James Robertson
Oct 27, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Indeed, but “Imagine” is the real NWO anthem and it is actually a good song.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 4:54 PM

Absolutely right. That was a very clever sleight of hand to get Lennon to sing it… adds cred to every theory about the manipulation of the Beatles.

Imagine (UNICEF: World Version)

The following is horrible and is presented simply as evidence.
(those with musical sensitivity advised to mute volume)

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 28, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Hey: isn’t that the NATO theme song? 😉

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 27, 2020 10:34 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Holy Moly Batman, that is a hellish pact if ever there was one!
On the one hand this is alarming, on the other a newfound respect for Herr Sonneschtein.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 27, 2020 10:21 AM

There’s nothing wrong with that lawyer is saying in general: I spend quite a bit of time making sure that ‘self-congratulatory confirmation bias’ communities don’t get too up their own backsides without being exposed to a bit of alternative opinion. I don’t do it for the sake of it, I just do it to correct factual inaccuracies.

I do it here too, if people start saying that ‘viruses don’t exist’. They do exist, they have been proven conclusively to exist and anyone who has read the seminal cancer research papers of the first half of the 20th century would know that they exist.

The first oncogenes (genes whose inappropriate activation contribute toward the cancerous state) were identified as mutant variants of mammalian genes which had been incorporated into a retrovirus.

SRC oncogene is a tyrosine kinase (a protein which sticks a phosphate group onto the amino acid tyrosine in certain proteins, causing a change in activity of phosphorylated proteins) incorporated into Rous Sarcoma Virus (a virus which causes sarcomas and was discovered by a scientist called Rous, amazingly enough).

Other oncogenes were identified as genes into which retroviruses integrated their proviral DNA genomes, resulting in inappropriate production of the relevant proteins. A seminal example is the MYC oncogene and a virus whose integration into genomes can lead to cancer is Mouse Mammary Tumour Virus (amazingly, a virus which causes mammary tumours in milk and which can be transmitted vertically via maternal milk).

I spend time requiring green zealots to confront the evidence of natural climate change, which is not limited to computer modelling and measurements taken since 1950. It involves to a great degree the work of geologists, of solar physicists, of those working on ice cores and deep sea cores bored out using specialised machinery. The evidence is simply overwhelming that natural forces can drive climate change so much more extreme than what we have seen the past 70 years that to claim that only humans and carbon dioxide can drive change is utterly farcical, utterly ridiculous and, far more pertinently, non-scientific.

This does not mean that the arctic ice this year is not going to be well below recent averages. What we as a species have zero data on is what the nature of arctic sea ice was before 1500. We have no direct way of knowing whether an ice-free arctic has existed in the past, but based on geological reconstruction of global temperatures, we can say with a fair degree of certainty that a completely ice-free planet may well have existed at times.

We can also say that 3000pcm of carbon dioxide has been present during deep ice ages.

The question to be addressed here is not whether the methods are reasonable (there is nothing wrong with doing what they do if the aim is merely correction of factual inaccuracy), rather whether the governments have been truthful about the reality of Covid19, the planned New Normal and the billionaires trying to wipe out 95% of humanity through bringing them all to their knees. And whether Covid19 is a tool being used to drive that through…..

tish
tish
Oct 28, 2020 12:57 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Well said Rhys

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Oct 27, 2020 10:00 AM

“ The idea of government agents carrying out psychological operations on social media is not far fetched”

Getter closer to proudly revealing a particular tool by its correct name?

Such coyness!

Just a single one of my comment and replies posted by OG – including to a scurrilous attack on me personally by Number1.

Don’t like the curtain being pulled back eh?

Not for the first time – J’Accuse!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 27, 2020 9:05 AM

Good article Jeremy, however I think we’d have to be really naive not to understand that sites which speak truth to power are going to be targeted by the security agencies or the 77th Brigade.
Like this site as an obvious example.
Regards WHO, The Corbett Report’s excellent 4 part expose Who Is Bill Gates shown a bright light on just what the connections are between that vile organisation and Mr Vaccine Man.
The vaccines are one of the vehicles that will be used to usher in The Great Reset and thus, a technofascist police state.
All restrictions are being lifted in Melbourne, and I’ll start back selling the magazine again on Friday, which is good news as I’m completely broke.
Coming into summer here, they can’t keep the charade going. If they kept us locked up, even the Daniel Andrews Fanclub would start getting suspicious.
Well…. maybe.
I believe it’ll be the same modus operandi as what they’ve done in the UK this year.
You’re into autumn in the UK, and hence, Flu season, and ‘case’ numbers are rising I believe. Someone told me France is going back into lockdown this week also.
What happened in Melbourne was only the first phase. There will be more lockdowns and more ‘new normal’ because this is about a much larger agenda than a virus.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 7:53 AM

UK Column News – 26th October 2020
PART ONE

MEDIA LAYS GROUND FOR WINTER CULL
Telegraph, Oct 25, 2020: Second lockdown spells an unprecedented non-Covid health crisis — State scientists tragically overlook the collateral deaths that will result from a tunnel-vision strategy.

Comment: The huge backlog of operations/examinations gives the lie to saving the NHS or protecting public health.
Brian Gerrish: It was murder.

MILITARY VENTURES ABROAD TO SUPPRESS COVID
Germany, UK and three other nations prepare expeditionary force
New version of R2P under guise of pandemic

NATO Sec Gen Jens Stoltenberg claimed he was not familiar with the plan, when questioned last week.
Once given details by a reporter: “Oh… that’s our plan for our militaries to help the civilian health services.”

CLEARLY THE MILITARY AGENDA IS UNDERHAND
The military is being readied to intervene in civil society. For example, in the Telegraph: Army drafted in to help with Covid response in Tier 3 areas to combat a second peak of infections

Northern Exposure’s David Scott: Very troubling. The mix of international and continuity of government aspects is dangerous.
Brian Gerrish: This is related to the militarization of police. Now we are seeing the military on the streets.

FOREIGN TROOPS ARE MORE LIKELY TO REPRESS COMMUNITIES THEY DON’T KNOW.
The idea that countries could send foreign troops to police each other’s populations is very worrying indeed.

London anti-lockdown protest, 18 arrested
Police violence totally disproportionate – video shows protest to be diverse in colour and age, good humoured and peaceful.
“No Gestapo Policing” was one of the slogans.
The subsequent police action amounted to assault.

MPs TWIDDLE THEIR THUMBS
Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee member William Wragg MP talks process, process, process. Supposedly reviewing government response but does not question basis for response.

Brian Gerrish: The public have lots of good questions but the government simply doesn’t reply.

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS ARE VALUABLE RESOURCE
Official replies are delayed but data is essential to a successful legal challenge to the government.

GYM OWNER CALM IN FACE OF POLICE, CHALLENGES OPPRESSION
Raises 50,000 pounds after he was fined for running his gym in Liverpool.
UK Gov back peddled and overturned the ban on gyms in the area.
However many areas still face precisely the same restrictions and are still not allowed to open.

UK CONTACT TRACING APP LINKED TO CHINA
You will keep no secrets – the Gov will get to the heart of your private life.
Prof Christophe Fraser, of Nuffield Department of Medicine, discussed progress on the UK Gov’s Contact Tracing app. He says developers and scientists (surveillance science?) “focused on getting the measurements right so you won’t get a notification from a person walking down the street, just extended close contact.”

UKC Mike Robinson: The Gov originally tried to use its own centralized server to hoover up all the data but Apple and Google’s app frameworks don’t allow that. The Gov only went back to ask for help when it’s own app failed.

UKC Brian Gerrish: Who is Christophe Fraser? He is part of Nuffield Department of Medicine but he is also linked to Big Data Institute at Oxford University. The Institute comprises the Medical Research Council, British Heart Foundation and Higher Education Funding Council Robertson Foundation as well as Wellcome (big pharma).

Other backers include the Robertson Foundation (family hedge fund money, Julian, Josie and family, the Tiger Foundation, Aotearoa Foundation and others). They made their money from the ‘business of the NHS.

Li Ka Shing Foundation (the second-largest globally after Bill and Melinda Gates but crucially tied to, and active in, China) and there’s the link between the UK Gov’s contact tracing and the PRC.

WHAT TO DO, DISCUSSION AND ACTIVISM
AV11 Conference begins on Oct 31
Demonstration to save the hospitality industry, Holyrood Park, Edinburgh, 12.30, Nov 7 where Northern Exposure’s David Scott will speak.

INSTIGATORS OF CENSORSHIP
US election marks a reckoning for social media – but the crackdowns are a sign of fear, not altruism — iNews, Oct 24

Quotes Justin Fier, director of cyber intelligence and analytics at the cyber-defence firm Darktrace.

“If you use the war on terror as an example, these platforms would never allow an al-Qaeda training manual to be uploaded, but other groups (such as QAnon, which the FBI has classified as “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists”) have been allowed to remain until very recently… In the next 12 months… we’re going to see major tech reforms – either proposed or actually acted on.”

Darktrace is one of those big companies you’ve never heard of, providing cyber protection and AI self-learning to NHS, eBay, Samsung etc.
On the board: former DG of Mi5 (33 years with Mi5) Lord Evans of Weardale. He is also chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life which is mulling how to reform the electoral process.
Prof Nick Jennings of Imperial College, probably involved in the nonsense models used to justify lockdown.
Alan Wade, 35 yeas in CIA, latterly as chief information officer.
Amber Rudd, former Home Secretary, who invited social media companies to meet PM Theresa May
Mike Lynch, founded the fraudulent AI company Autonomy but sold lots of other companies to Google and became filthy rich. At one stage he stepped down from Darktrace board but now he’s back

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lynch-out-darktrace-board-criminal-fraud-charges-autonomy-deal-2018-12

BBC ATTACKS CAMPAIGNERS
BBC Underhand Propaganda Attack Piece on Kate Shamirani and Her Family. They don’t want us to weigh what she says on its merits. She is a former nurse, “British conspiracy theorist, anti- vaxxer”.

David Scott: It was a nasty attack. The use of language was manipulative and there was nothing open and up front about the BBC’s report.
Brian Gerrish: By going after her children they tried to turn the family on itself . This is one of the key psychological techniques. She should be honoured that the BBC thinks she is so dangerous they need to do that.

CLOSED COURTS, PRE-RECORDED WITNESSES
Ministry Of Justice Cross Examination By Pre Recorded Video Link
This highlights the threat to the Rule of Law. “Pre-recorded cross examination preserves a defendant’s right to a fair trial and reduces stress.”

Mike Robinson: There are two sides to this. Some witnesses need protection but how can you cross examine a witness before the prosecution evidence is given… that information may only be revealed during the trial.
David Scott: how can anyone know what questions to ask in advance?
Brian Gerrish: the Gov says Family Courts need to be secret to protect children. There are no juries or press. But the moment you can ask questions with nobody watching, the more the case can be manipulated. It’s sold as protecting the vulnerable but the reality is the opposite.

More links under the UKC video on YouTube.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 7:35 AM

UK Column News – 26th October 2020
PART TWO

BRAVE NEW WORLD
WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM: 8 predictions for the world in 2030

1. All products will have become services. “I don’t own anything.
2. There is a global price on carbon. China took the lead in 2017 with a market for trading the right to emit a tonne of CO2.
3. US dominance is over. We have a handful of global powers.
4. The hospital as we know it will be on its way out, with fewer accidents thanks to self-driving cars and great strides in preventive and personalised medicine. Scalpels and organ donors are out, tiny robotic tubes and bio-printed organs are in.
5. We are eating much less meat. Fast food redesigned to be healthier and less harmful to the environment.
6 Populations on the move as climate change will have displaced 1 billion people.
7. The values that built the West will have been tested to breaking point. We forget the checks and balances that bolster our democracies at our peril, writes Kenneth Roth, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch.
8. By the 2030s, we’ll be ready to move humans toward the Red Planet.

THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE FABIAN PROJECT
As summarized by George Bernard Shaw

“Under proper socialism one would simply not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, educated, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live you would have to live well.”

THE MYTH OF DAVOS THAT IT’S A GRASSROOTS ORG
Davos is where Foundations like Rockefeller brief the minions.
That is why the WEF makes so many videos insisting that it’s a colloquy of experts.
— but as the WEF itself says: “it is an invitation-only community and members are nominated for a one-year period.”

HIDDEN HISTORY OF UK CHANCELLOR RISHI SUNAK
Who is Britain’s alleged ‘Prime minister-in-waiting’, Rishi Sunak?

Goldman Sachs connections, of course, and set up his private investment partnership in 2010 with capital of GBP 536 Million. He named it Theleme Partners, after the fictional abbey in the 16th-century series of novels, Gargantua and Pantagruel, by François Rabelais…

Gold give us, God forgive us,

And from all woes relieve us;

That we the treasure

May reap of pleasure,

And shun whate’er is grievous,

Gold give us, God forgive us.

The inhabitants of the fictional abbey of Theleme are, of course, are the origin of Aleister Crowley’s motto, Do What Thou Wilt

UK Column News – 26th October 2020

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 8:35 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

What’s interesting about Rishi Sunak “finding religion” or at least Thelema, is that for decades we’ve been told that Satanic Panic is a an obsession of emotionally-unhinged conspiracy theorists. It’s just been used to censor the Q-Anon movement and anyone posting videos about pedogate or Haiti or #SaveOURChildren which Twitter is making hard-to-follow as searches come up blank.

“Thelema’s just a joke,” Rishi’s cohort would say. But how often can you keep repeating the same “joke” and still find it hooray-Henry, uproariously funny? Like David Cameron and his suckling pig-sticking. Clearly, it is not a joke. It’s a snigger or an inside joke.

It also comports with what former Dutch banker Ronald Bernard said he witnessed in the the finance industry.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 27, 2020 9:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Remember the Wikileaks’ DNC emails included Obama requesing a “Thelema favour”?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 10:21 AM
Reply to  Edwige

And some interesting links to the NXIVM cult in this comment on Zerohedge.

The link may not work so I’ve cut & pasted from poster Question Mark:

Keith Raniere sentencing to proceed on Tuesday, 27 October. ABC deftly avoids any celebrity connections https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/nxivm-founder-keith-raniere-face-sentencing/story?id=73838533

Nobody is talking about Senator Kirsten Gillibrand’s family and fundraising ties to the NXIVM cult though. How come? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/court-documents-reveal-gillibrands-father-worked-for-nxvim-sex-trafficking-group
 
Nobody is talking about how NXIVM raised money through straw donors for Hillary’s senate campaign either. It’s documented court testimony after all. How come? https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/nxivm-campaign-contributions-trial-kieth-raniere-834854/
 
Nobody talks about how Bill Clinton’s Arkansas Mafia let Raniere go 20 years ago with the help of Bill’s good buddy Richard L. Mays. And later in NY, Doug Retnik, Schumer, Gillibrand, Hillary, Preet Bahara, and other assorted NY leftist trash.
https://artvoice.com/2019/07/07/making-vanguard-proud-the-mays-men-bring-executive-success-to-arkansas/
 

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 11:50 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“NY leftist trash”

???

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 27, 2020 2:42 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Well I did warn it was cut ‘n pasted from Zerohedge ))

dr death
dr death
Oct 27, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

well of course, money is the magick used to enchant us. the great oz pummeling his pipe organ.
‘civilised society’ is its golem.

Texter
Texter
Oct 27, 2020 10:44 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Who knew that neo-nazis would be the most promoted ‘alternative voice’ by the US social media to fight government fascist lockdowns. I dread to think what ‘lockdowns’ and tyranny you lot at UK column, would institute if you ever came to power. It looks like the Covid opposition is being funnelled into the far-right and moderates are being squashed.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 27, 2020 11:51 AM
Reply to  Texter
Philippe
Philippe
Oct 27, 2020 12:05 PM
Reply to  Texter

If you’re going to pretend to be different people, at least change the words of your posts.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Oct 27, 2020 1:16 PM
Reply to  Texter

Jack you continually use far-right as a pejorative but won’t define what it actually is. Presumably because you are unable – so who pays you to write this crap?

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 27, 2020 5:24 AM

My sister worked in a senior position at the WHO in Geneva for many years before retiring. Its a typical large organization that’s further complicated by being international. While there’s no guarantee that there aren’t people in it that are members of some deep, dark, conspiracy she just reckons “its a bureaucracy”. Its how organizations work — for better or worse. Buried in that organization are many talented and dedicated people who spent their lives trying to do the right thing. (It might be helpful to talk to one or two.)

One area that US government penetration did affect the WHO and her work in particular was in reproductive health. The US government is very, very, concerned that none of its funding goes towards abortion or contraception. In her world of, among other things, AIDS prevention one of the key strategies is distributing condoms……but condoms can be contraceptives so that’s a no-no. ‘merka says No! However, life has to go on so it just makes extra work for the staff devising workarounds and alternate funding sources. There’s no guarantee that other plays are going on, either to push a pet foible of some Podunk senator or to enhance the business prospects in a pay-to-play (sorry “campaign contribution”) scenario. Overall, when the Trump administration decided that they were pulling out of the WHO it might have caused a short term funding problem but long term it could only benefit that organization.

(Incidentally, one other foible of the US is its attitude to passports. WHO senior staff have UN passports because they’re effectively diplomats who visit all sorts of countries for their work. These are issued by the UN and are the same format as a national passport but typically help with crossing borders where you might have visa issues with a normal passport. The one exception is the US — it doesn’t recognize UN passports.)

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Oct 27, 2020 7:51 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Martin Usher

“While there’s no guarantee that there aren’t people in it that are members of some deep, dark, conspiracy she just reckons “its a bureaucracy”. Its how organizations work — for better or worse.”

Conspiracy or bureaucracy? But are these mutualy exclusive explanations? A conspirator, such as Cass Sunstien, would examine the bureaucratic culture of the WHO and work out the best way to manipulate it to the conspiracie’s ends. This sort of thing seems to be his stock in trade and given the number of firms engaged in similar trade how can we estimate how much of this sort of thing is about?

Carl Sunstien is advocating for a conspiracy to pretend there are no conspiracies.

dr death
dr death
Oct 27, 2020 12:31 PM

i think you will find the conspiracy is already entrenched, the fact sunstein is fouling the corridors is merely proof.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 27, 2020 5:10 AM

Thanks to this article and the discussion below, I begin to understand why Plato and Socrates spent so much of their valuable brainpower combatting Sophists; those well spoken theorists who specialized in teaching (for a fat fee) rich young ‘born to rule’ heirs to the Best Families of Athenian Democracy “how to make the worse seem the better cause”.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Oct 27, 2020 7:09 AM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Great comment Doc. Documenting a very real lifelong terror of mine & mind over ‘privileged ‘ info. And matters of public concern. Fortunately, Sophie gets Sophists and remains one of the best, most considered moderators i’ve ever seen: as a professional of media research & analysis to the highest levels and having witnessed the mindset of corporate and military leaders, personally, that’s quite a compliment for A1, imho. Let’s hope Sam compliments her… ehhh, too?

THX-1148
THX-1148
Oct 27, 2020 12:08 PM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Tim, having worked parallel with CIA Agents & Navy seals clearly knows what he’s talking about

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/09/wikipedia-slashes-spanish-flu-death-rate/#comment-126172

dr death
dr death
Oct 27, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

i prefer the term pilpul, seems more apropriate.

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Oct 29, 2020 6:39 AM
Reply to  dr death

Completely different. Pilpul is an honest scholarly attempt to reconcile conflicting versions. Sophism is a devious political attempt to impose a favoured version.

Dayne
Dayne
Oct 27, 2020 5:05 AM

When I think of some of my old college profs whom I used to idolize… Oh dear.

There was a Jewish-Russian-American woman professor who liked to mention her elderly mother, a California “labour union activist”. Fair enough.
This professor wrote awful poetry-as-prose but got published nonetheless. Interesting.
Eventually she married singer Joan Baez’s cousin. (Whoa; red flags all over the place; but what did I know.)
The husband is a world-renowned “mathematical physicist” (err… no such thing). He specializes in “spin foams in loop quantum gravity” (oh, come now!).
Both of their careers saw a meteoric rise within the U of California system. Wherever they go, they are showered with funding and all the doors magically swing open – in Germany, China, Singapore… Of course they do. 🙂

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 27, 2020 8:56 AM
Reply to  Dayne

Joan Baez who moved from Bob Dylan to Steve Jobs. What an ascension!

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 27, 2020 9:48 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Look up the song ‘Play me backwards’.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Oct 27, 2020 10:50 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You might like this. It’s a Joan Baez parody song from the old National Lampoon album ‘Lemmings’. Enjoy! https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yc2r8

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