Reality Check – THAT Mural is Not Antisemitic
It’s time to put this lie to bed – the mural is not antisemitic. Not at all.
Kit Knightly
Disclaimer: I originally started writing this article over a year ago, when the “antisemitism crisis” was in full flow. But by the time I had come round to finish it, other topics had taken the headlines and I put the piece aside. I regret that now, because in that time this mural has been used to bash Corbyn and his supporters over and over again.
Now “Labour Antisemitism” is back in the headlines thanks to the predictably biased nonsense in the EHRC report. The hacks at the Guardian have dug out this mural again, to beat decomposing horse that is the British Left. It needs to stop.
The mural is not antisemitic, and anyone saying it is either a mendacious liar, an ill-informed fool, or an antisemite themselves.
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This is the mural, THAT mural. Painted by Mear One, defended on Facebook by Jeremy Corbyn. The source of much of the “antisemitism crisis” media hysteria. We’ve discussed it, at length, in other places but it needs, and deserves, it’s own article.
We need to finally put this to bed. The constant repetitions of the same tired lies (see this Rafael Behr piece) need to end.
This article isn’t for you to read, regular reader. I know you likely share our position already. This is for you to send to, and share with, everybody out there who is still – wittingly or otherwise – spreading the myth of “Labour antisemitism”.
There is no Labour antisemitism. It is an invented narrative based on nothing. Months of quote mining and deliberate misunderstanding produced a case so thin as to almost not exist.
This mural is their prized piece of “evidence”. It is not antisemitic.
The media say it is. They say it displays “antisemitic tropes”, that it “caricatures jews”. None of that is true. It is not antisemitic, it is not intended to be so, and anybody saying otherwise is either knowingly lying, or hasn’t done their research.
The defense of the mural is simple: the artist said it wasn’t about Jews. There are six people in the picture, two of them are Jewish, but four of them are not. They are all very rich and powerful men.
If your argument is “they must be Jewish, because they’re rich and they’ve got big noses and they’re exploiting people”….well then YOU are the antisemite, not the artist.
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That’s a simple summary, now let’s get more detailed.
Mear One, the mural artist who painted it, released a statement when it press furore started.
It never got much attention in the mainstream media because it didn’t fit their narrative:
It was also [the media’s] interpretation, and never mine, to point out “hook noses” “crooked noses” and other vile Nazi, Third Reich anti-Semitic propaganda, even concocting cuckoo ideas like how the naked figures under the monopoly board depicted “starving holocaust victims” when they actually represent the multi-races of humanity! As a thinking feeling human being to hear such stuff makes me sick to my stomach.
According to artist, the mural was about billionaires oppressing the poor. That holds up, given the names of the people in the picture:
I chose to depict the likenesses of such early turn of the century Robber Barons, specifically Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Warburg, as well Aleister Crowley who was a kind of philosophical guru to the ruling elite of that time and a well-known Satanist.
Shall we go through the names? Let’s work in the order he names them.
1. “Rothschild”
It’s actually unclear which Rothschild Mear One is referencing, but guessing by appearance I would say it was Lionel Walter Rothschild, on the far left:
The Rothschilds are one of the richest and most powerful families to ever exist. The own and operate central banks in dozens of nations, hold title in both English and Austrian nobility, and serve as financial advisors to the Queen of England. Which ever one the artist meant, yes, they are one of only 2 people in the picture who were actually Jewish.
2. John D. Rockefeller
The original Rockefeller, possibly the richest man to ever exist, he founded the Standard Oil Company in 1870 and ended his life with a fortune worth 400 billion in adjusted dollars.
Easily identifiable by his side-swiped hair and small moustache, he was an Evangelical Protestant. He was not Jewish.
3. JP Morgan
One of the richest and most powerful men of the modern era, JP Morgan had a storied career in finace, steel, railways, and many others (not to mention spots of war profiteering). He was also a driving force behind the setting up of the Federal Reserve.
The most easily identified thanks to the huge nose, the bigger moustache and the tiny spectacles, JP Morgan was a lifelong Episcopal Christian, he was not Jewish.
4. Andrew Carnegie
Andrew Carnegie was one of the richest Americans to ever exist, making billions in the steel and railway industries. His later charity work notwithstanding, he was a premium example of a robber baron. His legacy lives on in the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a US-backed NGO and integral part of the Deep State.
He was born in Scotland to Presbyterian parents. He was not Jewish.
5. Paul Warburg
Paul Warburg was a member of German-Jewish banking dynasty who moved to the US in 1902. He was director of the Wells-Fargo bank and then chairman of the Federal Reserve. He is considered the major driving force behind the founding of the Fed, and was a vocal supporter of central banking.
Marked by the receding hair and big moustache, Warburg – unlike almost everyone else in the picture – was actually Jewish.
6. Aleister Crowley
Aleister Crowley is the only subject not associated with high-finance. He was an occult figure, an author and (his biographers allege) a sometimes intelligence agent for His Majesty’s Government.
Standing out for being the only entirely hairless subject, Crowley was born to wealthy Christian parents, and then founded his own religion. He was not Jewish.
(As a “prolific Satanist”, he’s actually the only person included in the picture based on their religion, so you could argue it’s an anti-Satanic mural.)
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In conclusion: The majority of the people in the mural are not jews. None of them were included for being jews. Judaism or Jewish symbols do not appear and are not in anyway referenced in the painting.
It is not antisemitic.
If you see a painting of rich man with a big nose and think “he must be jewish!”, YOU are an antisemite, not the artist.
More than that, and as I have written about before, “antisemitism” is now being used to deflect criticism away from 0.1%. The men in this painting were NOT all Jewish, but they WERE all billionaires.
Anybody who persists in using this as evidence Jeremy Corbyn – or anyone who supports him – is an antisemite is therefore either being deliberately dishonest, or speaking from pure ignorance.
Send them this article to correct them.
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“Anti-Semitic” is like “Anti-Soviet”, so vague as to mean anything that the accusers want.
Jews are not immune to criticism, just like every other group out there. We must end this Jewish Privilege and restore full citizenship to non-Jews in America and the West.
My only comment would be using Wiki as a reference as to what Mear One said. Wiki can be edited and manipulated by anyone. So as a reference no.Your article was very interesting though..
Jesus taught us – “If you don’t talk shit about anyone, you’ll never have to worry about talking shit about the wrong person.”
He, you know, said it better though.
Another thing that really annoys me about the whole AS thing is that I think that some well meaning but not so bright people have been conned into seeing AS everywhere….but Michael Gove and Boris Johnson are actually truly very clever..they KNOW the whole thing is BS!!!
Thank you so much for writing this article. You have also said that holocaust denial should not be banned. ( I do believe that the holocaust happened and it seems to me that the only people I know of who deny it ARE antisemitic ( e.g. Ursula Haverbeck)..but on the face of it , if someone says they don’t think it happened, on the face of it that is just a factual statement. You can’t make judgments about why they think that until you hear what they have to say. I also did not think that the mural was antisemitic precisely for the reasons you said. The problem is spineless Jeremy Corbyn and ofcourse my own lack of courage in myself. Overnight we all became antisemitic!! This is all Corbyn’s fault. He went along with the whole BS. He has now at last said ( but only in his own… Read more »
O.G. Mear CBS, I remenber his awful metalcore band downset, lots of lyrics about people power but awful music, God I hate the soft fake red wine and champagne “leftists” almost more than I detest the covidfacists and their globocapitalist masters,phooey.gross.
I mean this mural is clearly charicature, it’s pretty normal in western charicature tradition to draw overstated eyebrows,noses,ears etc.
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Thanks for getting back round to it, Kit. This article needed writing.
From a psychological point of view the question of whether or not the mural is “antisemitic” is in the eye of the beholder. why is that? It is because throughout our lives we have learned different ways of decoding and interpreting incoming information. This will always be determined by everything we have learned , perceived and experienced to date. This means that different people interpret the same sensory input from the mural according to their own memories, social conditioning and experiences. These can vary considerably and are also culture bound. So, it’s not just a question of “I can’t see any thing in the mural that’s antisemitic” because somebody else might. But that doesn’t mean that they are either right or wrong it is just their subjective interpretation of a piece of artwork! One could for example, just as easily interpret the mural as being anti- Christian and Luciferian and… Read more »
Gestalt lives.- T Y.
Hi An An,
Tell me more please you have got my full attention.
AnAn
It would be very helpful when one gets a down vote (or an upvote) on what has been written for the person voting to state their reasons so a response can be given if necessary. Voters can sometimes change their minds on issues depending on the information and the strength of the arguments put forward.
Two people up to now don’t catch the point I’ve been trying to make. The mural itself is just a painting it’s what different people are reading into it is the problem. There can be many different subjective interpretations of this mural that may include an antisemitic interpretation but that cannot be held to be the ONLY interpretation as that would be a reductionist FALLACY.
“We see the world not as it is, but as we are.” Anais Nin.
“No matter where you go, there you are.” Buckaroo Banzai.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/04/crosswords/daily-puzzle-2017-08-05.html
Yes Burke.
I agree with your quotes. They tend to support the points I have been trying to make on the subjective interrpretation of things in our world called Murals! Wrt works of art in particular, there is no right or wrong interpretation. How can there be? Everything we see is mediated by the Symbolic order of language , culture and our social conditioning. That’s why we are stuck with a consensus reality that the Ancients referred to as Maya or illusion.
-None of the parasites depicted have any semblance to actual semitic people (such as thePalestininans). Anyone with intact braincells can clearly see they are WHITE CAUCASIAN EUROPEANS -“Anti-semitism” is the number one propaganda weapon of Israel and friends. The problem with Israel is not “the j–s” or even Palestine- because few people actually care about the Palestinians. The problem with Israel is that the US Pro-Israeli lobby has OPENLY ADVOCATED FOR A MILITARY ATTACK ON IRAN FOR YEARS, which would very likely precipitate a WW3 with the involvment of China and Russia. There is also ample evidence that Israel is the biggest manufacturer and hoarder of WMDs in the area. (including weapons not allowed by international law, which Israel has repeatedly openly and arrogantly violated, with a “what you gonna do about it ?” atittude). Israel exports “crowd control” tech to police forces around the world, with the more questionable… Read more »
Gamal Abdel Nasser this was a the 2nd president in Egypt in 1956. Abdel went on television and radio in the 50’s and stated to the Askenazi “You have left Black and returned White you are impostors
The (recent) use of the word “trope” is a propagandist trick, designed to simultaneously smear and silence.
The word trope means nothing more than figurative language. So every time someone is accused of using a trope one should delete the word trope and insert the term figurative language. This simple exercise immediately reveals the propagandist nature of the misuse of words. Unfortunately, such misuse of vocabulary seems to be already embedded in contemporary discourse and people repeat it without even thinking; indeed, that is its purpose: it acts as a substitute for thinking.
Aleister Crowley is CLEARLY not present in the mural and was more of a troll than a satanist- his comment on sacrificing children was referring to wasting sperm by masturbating and was meant to troll Christians and Victorian England- a background he never quite managed to escape. Freemasonry and Satanism are inextricably linked to Christianity and Judaism.
Christianity has no links to either Freemasonry or Satanism. The establishment church was infiltrated by the Freemason’s and the Jesuits many years ago although the Freemason’s seemed to make a big push for control of the churches in the early 20th century. Hence the likes of Billy Graham finding their way to the peak of the establishment church. Crowley was a satanist in the strictest terms. He made no ambiguity in describing his rites and the need for children especially young blue eyed boys to be the preferred sacrifice. Apologists for satanism are always denying the fact that he was clear in his comments on that. The evidence is plenty that this is indeed the preferred choice of sacrifice for satanists and those who members worship in the dark arts. Crowley made many sacrifices and offered rites to Baphomet. This is not the action of a ‘troll’ but of someone… Read more »
To be more precise, christianity and judaism are the orginators of Freemasonry and Satanism… Jesuits are Christians. There is no “good Christianity”, this is simply brainswashing that begins from the day you were born. (or even earlier).
Freemasonry and Judeochristianity worship the same Archon- Yahwheh, a.k.a. Satan a.k.a. Baphomet a.k.a Yaldabaoth, etc etc. Freemasonry is heavily based on Rosicrucianism which is Christian mysticism, and uses the same symbolism.
Without judeochristinaity (and the kabbalah) there is no Satan, “magick”, or Freemasonry.
The image of Satan and Baphomet is a judeochristian co-optation of Pagan gods such as Pan, the Green Man, etc. and is part of the program to disconnect people from the earth and indigenous spirituality.
Please become conscious and stop parroting christian fantasies about good and evil. Abrahamic religion is the foundation the NWO.
A Christian is someone who follows the teachings of Christ. These are contained within the bible in the 4 gospels among others and for each Christian this is written Word of God and so a the direct link back to the creator. Jesus Christ as His son on earth was representative of the creator in human form. For Christians this is all that is required – faith in the word of the Saviour Jesus Christ and belief and faith in the creator as redeemer. What you refer to as christianity is the sublimation of that truth by purveyors of the occult who wish to subvert that. This is the role of the catholic church contained in its works as churchianity. It has nothing to do with Christ. The catholic church and the Jesuits are subverters of truth. These are occult organisations. There is NO such thing as Christian mysticism. There… Read more »
Bible followers are beyond naive and ignorant of human psychology and everything else not contained in their book of intructions. I am well aware that no words can penetrate your dogma and no blasphemy is gross enough for your doctrine, but for the benfit and enjoyment of others, here is some enlightenment: Crowley had very little (if anything) to do with Blavatsky and would have little positive to say about her, and vice versa. Their teachings are incompatible. Crowley was a mystic who failed to break free from his own conditioning and succumbed to the lure of power offered by the same entities that drive the NWO. Of course, for the Bible follower a “mystic” is synonymous with “Satanist”, since their understanding of human spirituality and the metaphysical are derived from a document designed (by the Roman empire working with Christian priesthood) for mass mind control and dehumanisation via spiritual lobotomy.… Read more »
“ but for the benfit and enjoyment of others, “
I did indeed find this fascinating and provocative. Thanks!
@ Seanie, Sadly some people will believe absolutely anything that they read in their ‘bible.’. Fact: We are all sons and daughters of the creator. Jesus/Yahweh/Yahshua was the son of a temple virgin Miriam who was given to the temple age three, and was inseminated as soon as she became of age, by the Zadok Priest Zechariah, who was also John the Baptist’s father.. whose mother was Elizabeth sister of Anne, wife of Joachim. Then was married off to Joseph of Heli as soon as it became evident that she was pregnant, to cover the fact that Zechariah had been having it away with the vestal virgins… http://boatrvgroup.com/sabbathcovenant/newdoctrine/YahshualineageHouseofZadok.htm. The mysterious son of god and a virgin ‘story’ was created to cover these ‘sins.’ Another tip for you, David/Thutmosis and Solomon/Amenhotep lll were Egyptian Pharaohs, Amenhotep lll’s son was Amenhotep lV who changed his name to Akhenaten and was later known… Read more »
Christianity as we know it today was coopted by the Romans and adapted as a system of control, as Romans were terribly unspiritual people whom just invented “gods” for utlitatiran and political needs, it suited them fine.Personaly I am can be down with the Jesus feeling, the Jesus feeling that chased the greedy money lender cunts out of the temple and fed people, teaching them the ways of their own autonomy, and empower other human beings to excell to their highest, that is nothing but beautiful, and an extremely powerful concept. What do you mean when you say “Satanism” ?, theres various forms. Most people mean the vulgar entertainment satanism as juxtaposed by black metal or Laveyans, The goat figure is not called “baphomet” it is the goat of mendes, the baphomet lable came later, it is not a satanist symbol , but yes it is occult, its supposed to… Read more »
-None of the parasites depicted have any semblance to actual semitic people (such as thePalestininans). Anyone with intact braincells can clearly see they are WHITE CAUCASIAN EUROPEANS -“Anti-semitism” is the number one propaganda weapon of Israel and friends. The problem with Israel is not “the j–s” or even Palestine- because few people actually care about the Palestinians. The problem with Israel is that the US Pro-Israeli lobby has OPENLY ADVOCATED FOR A MILITARY ATTACK ON IRAN FOR YEARS, which would very likely precipitate a WW3 with the involvment of China and Russia. There is also ample evidence that Israel is the biggest manufacturer and hoarder of WMDs in the area. (including weapons not allowed by international law, which Israel has repeatedly openly and arrogantly violated, with a “what you gonna do about it ?” atittude). Israel exports “crowd control” tech to police forces around the world, with the more questionable… Read more »
The central argument here is that because only one third of the characters sat at the monopoly board are acknowledged to be Jewish, the mural is not therefore antisemitic. What though if half the characters were Jewish, or two thirds, would that then make it antisemitic ? (It could even be argued, in theory, that if all the characters were Jewish then “so what ?” the mural is still about structural arguments around power hierarchies independent of identity concerns..e.tc.) Kit’s is only a meaningful argument if you can make a coherent case about proportionality. From my reading, Mear One has made a fairly representative depiction, in that about one third of US billionares are Jewish, which would make the mural truthful in a contemporary sense. If it were supposed to be a mural that was somehow representative of the proportion of Jews in the world, (or Western imperial countries) then… Read more »
I’m in the US, so for better or worse I wasn’t aware of this controversy– there are far too many to keep up with in any case– and am not emotionally invested in it. I think Kit’s commentary is cogent and commendable. However, as some comments in this thread suggest, the problem is that on this slipperiest of slopes, reason too easily gets blown off like a loosely-worn hat blows off when one is skiing down a slope, never to be recovered. (Or so I imagine; I’ve never gotten near an actual pair of skis.) Just to throw out two reactions in the “nuh-uh, it is too obviously ‘anti-Semitic’!” line: • Zealous identity-politics ideologues make the circular and unfalsifiable argument that the artist knew, or should’ve known, that the physiognomy depicted in the mural may evoke traditional vicious caricatures of Jews. Thus, even if the representation is faithful to the subjects’ actual features, and… Read more »
finger-pointing accusers is precisely what we’re dealing with!
It is censorship by name-calling. https://viewsandstories.blogspot.com/2018/07/name-calling-as-censorship.html
As a member of the Labour Party – for how long I have no idea – I was disturbed by an email my local party passed on from the General Secretary, David Evans. It contained clear prohibition of debate on the EHRC report at party level. Comments on social media are under scrutiny. As Labour Party members we must abide by the Code of Conduct and there will be zero-tolerance in disciplinary action taken against those breaching the Code. However, for me it is important to have debate, across all media. That is what has been missing for the last 30 years. I do not place special significance on any particular race, sect or religious group. So G.S. David Evans’ dictate will not stop me speaking out in favour of democratic debate. If that gets me suspended, so be it. By the way, the wall art of Mear One is… Read more »
I don’t know about you, but I’m planning to write to Starmer, condemning his decision to suspend Corbyn, and defending what Corbyn said. I’m still thinking about the exact wording, but will probably quote my membership card number to make it easy for him (more likely a minion) to get me suspended if that’s what they want to do. Challenge him, as it were.
I found this quite helpful:
(Even if I don’t normally particularly like Novara Media).
p.s. I’ve not so far had an email like yours from my local party on this subject, or not yet found it in my email anyway.
Unless you’re a constituent Starmer won’t reply. A medical doctor friend of mine phoned his office to try to speak to him over this nonsense, when I was there. No joy whatsoever.
You are probably correct. However, I would have thought that the stricture about only writing to your own MP only applied when you were writing to them in their capacity as MPs.
Starmer wears two other hats: Leader of the Labour Party, and Leader of H.M.’s Loyal Opposition. I should have thought any member of the Labour Party should be able to write to its leader, and any UK citizen should be able to write to the leader of the opposition.
But we will see. 🙂
And almost no one thinks the mural is anti-semitic. The idea isn’t that most people are supposed to think it’s antisemitic but that people are misdirected into arguing about antisemitism and Israel instead of understanding that it is the US that is trying to discredit moderate politicians like Corbyn by pretending they’re extreme.
Bible publishers to add ‘anti-semitic’ warnings to New Testament, Jewish groups says
https://www.christianpost.com/news/require-bible-publishers-to-add-anti-semitic-warnings-to-new-testament-jewish-groups-say.html
So Joshua never went into the fishing town of Jericho in Palestine to steal it on behalf of the Jewish exodus from Egypt? Little has changed in 3.500 years or so.
The comment at the foot of the link seems balanced to my mind.
“Michael Hoffman says: Advise publishers to add anti-Christian warnings to the Talmud which declares that Jesus practiced sorcery and idol worship and deserved to be killed (Sanhedrin 43a), states that Jesus is in hell boiling in excrement (צוֹאָה רוֹתֵחַת Gittin 57a), and declares His Mother Mary a harlot (Sanhedrin 67a)”
Michael Hoffman his research and understanding on magic rituals they uses is brilliant
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Poor article and flawed reasoning. The picture is as anti-Semitic as it gets, its about the perceptions of those people being Jewish. Even the actual Jews are about as kosher as a bacon sarnie at a sunnet.
So, even if 4 out of 6 of the people portrayed are NOT Jewish and even if the artist specifically disavowed any anti Semitic intent, the picture is anti Semitic – because reasons?
Because of the perception of those reasons.
Not because of the reasons per se.
And the artist is ofcourse systemic anti-something or institutionalised
anti-something, or whatever trigger applies.
If I think you’re black and abuse you for being so, then it’s racist of me even if you are not black. People who love that photo, to them it represents xe Jewz. This is enough.
Ahhhh … now I get it.
It’s about ” perceptions “.
So , for example , a picture of a bulldozer demolishing a house is anti semitic even if the house is in Yorkshire.
I’m getting the hang of this … great game . Thanks for the tip.
“The picture is as anti-Semitic as it gets”
“No it isn’t. Now a message from THE ROYAL MAFIA CRIME FAMILY.”
Aleister crowley was no Satanist.Only the ignorant would make static statements such as that.You are more likely find satanists hiding undercover within the traditional religion.
Aleister Crowley worshipped Satan, as does most of the world. And Satan worshippers are antichrists.
Don`t be silly. Have you read The book of lies? Studied Crowley have you? You have been reading to much science fiction.
Whatever. I’ve read tons of stuff about Crowley and Freemasonry. I’m a reader and I’ve been at it for a long time. I’m 64, so ‘a long time’ means long time. I don’t know of anyone who would accuse me of being silly. Look, Believe what you want and so will I.
You have not read a single book written by Crowley and are completely out of your depth.
Tons that must have weighted you down quite a bit.When someone say
s that Crowley was a satanist it shows they are misguided.Go read my old friend books he has written a few and is quite quite knowledgeable with regards Freemasonry and Crowley.You should read Crowley
s books not about him.Then the penny will drop.Did you play the Beatles records backwards to check for Satanic messages as well?
That’s like a “When did you stop beating your wife” statement, which reveals what you’re about. Buzz off.
Reason does not apply to devoted Christians- who cannot fathom that Yahweh and Satan are functionally identical. The joke on the Christians runs even deeper: they believe that when Yahweh mentions his “chosen people”, that it includes them- or even that it includes ALL people- when Yahweh has clearly stated otherwise.
‘Yahweh and Satan are functionally identical’ – please provide some evidence for that assertion.
It
s hopeless.They still don
t get IT.“Corbyn’s toxic legacy of anti semitism……” Of course Jezza is anti semitic. Ken Livingstone is anti semitic. Jackie Walker is anti semitic. Marc Wasworth is anti semitic..Everybody is anti semitic. Everything is anti semitic. The truth is anti semitic. Facts are anti semitic. Jezza is also a communist spy and a terrorist. Our chums at the Board of deputies and the Mossad Office said they were going to break Jezza, and they have. They said they were going to drive him out of public life, and they have. Jezza will shortly be drummed out of the Brownies, followed by a general purge of anybody left who is not a fully paid up Blairite Backstabber and Friend of Israel, plus of course all those terrible reprobates at Jewish Voice for Labour. Sir K. will dutifully tug his forelock to the Board of deputies and hand over to them control of party… Read more »
All this forelock-tugging Starmerism could be dealt a swift blow if the Corbynite parliamentarians were to resign from the Parliamentary Labour Party, and complete their terms as Independents. If they then proceed in unison as the real (nascent) LP, we will have gained a real Opposition Party. Jeremy Corbyn could join them. That will be justice seen to have been done.
Excellent suggestion Sophie. I would have liked to see Jeremy joining his brother in Trafalgar Square.
I too. Even more, I should like to see his brother stand for Parliament. Piers is far more battle capable than Jeremy. 🙂
Not half!
The Labour Party has long been a dead end, a lost cause, a waste of time, effort and energy, a waste of a man’s rations. Jezza was the last hurrah, one last undeserved golden opportunity to achieve something worthwhile. And the tragedy of it all is that he came within an ace of winning in 2017. But for the non stop backstabbing of the Blairites bankrolled by Zionist money, he would certainly have done so. Can any decent person seriously contemplate remaining in this Labour party??Anyone who does is just as bad as all the PLP scum and utter filth who stabbed Jezza and the working people of this country in the back at every possible opportunity for the last four years. The Watsons, the Benns, the Ellmans, the Bradshaws, the Bryants, the Bergers, the Smees, the Austins, His Lordship John Mann, now appointed Inquisitor In Chief, and all the… Read more »
‘Jezza’s mistake was to try to appease these people.’ True indeed. I decided not to vote for him when his constant apologies had come to irritate me. ‘To anyone who is even considering staying, would any decent person want to stay in a party where there is no room for Jezza, Chris Williamson, Jackie Walker, Ken Livingstone, Marc Wadsworth??’ Simply, no. So the decent Labour people in Parliament should resign and serve as Independents. But since this has not happened already, it probably will not happen at all. The immediate problem, however, is that we need an Opposition Party. This is a critical need, given the grotesque excesses of Johnson and his advisers. But no-one is supplying this need: Starmer has given Johnson and his entourage his full blessing in the interest of the fake ‘national emergency’. This is a very dangerous circumstance for the nation. And I see no… Read more »
Unfortunately, I don’t think there are enough of them. And as you say, if it was going to happen, it would have already happened.
My only hope for Labour is that there will be another leadership challenge sooner rather than later.
Surely people will soon recognise that the wooden, charisma-free, principle-free Starmer will be an electoral disadvantage, not an asset?
Ah, that whore hope! 🙂
There ARE enough of them to start their own independent party. They have years to gather a viable opposition. Millions of us joined the \labour Party for Corbyn.. and millions of us have torn up our membership cards because of what the Starmers, Bliarites, Margaret Hodge did to Jeremy. They sicken me to my stomach.
Starmer is Johnsons bum wipe and he is unfit for purpose. He was bought and paid for. He has only been in politics for two years and has shot to the top? Who funded him?
Well, I agree with everything after your second sentence at least. Why did he win the leadership election? Anyone that both Paul Mason and Alastair Campbell support is automatically suspect in my book. It’s very funny that apparently he received the support of my CLP, and yet I went to a meeting hosted by my CLP (first meeting I’d ever been to actually) where RLB was the main speaker (part of her leadership campaign). It was standing room only (you had to force your way into the large meeting room. She was very warmly received. (And she spoke better than I’d ever seen her perform on TV). But no, apparently “we” supported the Starm-bot…. Like …. we did. The apparent enthusiasm for the Starm-bot reminds me of that fake enthusiasm people felt for Nick Clegg for about 5 minutes after his first appearance in a TV leaders debate. I could… Read more »
Inspiring thought. You’re not alone in that one! Bring back the Old Labour party!
It would be nice. But I think it is dead and gone forever. Great pity.
Ach, lassie….Don’t forget the massive, overnight boost in LP membership when, finally, a decent, humane, allotment gardener showed up by surprise as the LP leader. I’ll bet you every one of them will immediately back the new ‘Old’ Labour Party. Plus more than a few who were anyway in for the long haul. Sure, he buckled under zio pressure. Once bitten, though.
On my nice little smartphone I get my daily update from the Ministry of Truth: such helpful links which I assume are the ones pushed in everyone’s face. For example I had an article from Channel 4’s Fact Check facility on the Labour anti-you-know-what issue and it seems that the statistics here are about as informative as the ones for Covid. Indeed the article ends in total lack of commitment but on the way we find some revealing comments. Check this out: “It’s hard to understand how Mr Corbyn can claim to know how many Labour members were investigated by the party for antisemitism throughout his leadership. This is because people close to him have always argued that Labour did not have proper systems in place to track antisemitism cases until they took over the management of the party.” Passing over that ominous “people close to him” who “took over… Read more »
THE LOBBY wants to character assassinate certain people again!
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/investigations/2017/1/10/the-lobby-young-friends-of-israel-part-1/
The Lobby Episode 1: Young Friends of Israel
Al Jazeera Investigations reveals how pro-Israel groups are trying to influence Britain’s youth.
The Lobby Part 2: The Training SessionIn part two, our undercover reporter joins a delegation from the Israeli embassy at last year’s Labour Party conference.
The Lobby Part 3: An Anti-Semitic TropeA heated conversation between activists raises questions about whether anti-Semitism charge is used to stifle debate.
your article has been found to be anti-Semitiic
we written to the editor of this website and also your employer and friends
you will need to watch this training course
Netanyahu’s New Normal [FULL]
Please everyone keep this information at the top of your arsenal. This is the evil reptile that is slithering through our Politics today, and should be uncovered at every opportunity.
Thanks careful.
“Your article has been found to be anti-Semitiic
we written to the editor of this website and also your employer and friends.”
This happened to me when I was contributing to a 911 debate on the Amazon Discussion Forum. A Hasbara Shill threatened to ‘expose’ me and broke his neck to find out who I was, and contacted the Derbyshire County Council to get me removed. I worked at the time for the Social Services with Children who had been removed (I’m retired now) unfortunately he was pissing up the wrong lamp post…wrong county entirely.. And this is what we are up against, reptiles who will stop at nothing to zip our mouths and bury the truth.
(regardless of facts)saying something isn’t anti-semitic it is an act of anti-semitism by itself
.. Otherwise “THE LOBBY” will lose its raison d’être.
They are all servents, of empire.
It’s bewildering to see the ease with which the media can convince the gullible of any old nonsense: Jeremy Corbyn’s an anti-Semite, the coronavirus* is a grave and unusual threat to public health, some men who couldn’t fly a Cessna in a competent way suddenly developed the ability to execute manoeuvres in a 747 that would be almost impossible for even the most experienced of pilots (with said manoeuvres causing steel-framed buildings to react in a way not seen before).
*The alleged coronavirus, I mean.
The BBC can report the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes early by mistake.
What I never understood was WHY more wasn’t made of this, for it clearly shows that this was a false flag event.
All deputies of Empire. They knew that, why don’t you?
Much as I admire Kit’s work, this article makes the same mistakes that Corbyn (and pretty much the entire contemporary Left) make: it starts with a premise that flies in the face of evidence; it is rooted in a commitment to what is ideal at the expense of what is real; it sends us into a cul-de-sac of contradictions. For example, the symbol of the pyramid, capstone and all seeing eye, are famously associated with Freemasonry. It doesn’t take a deep scholar to realise the fundamental connections between the ideology of Freemasonry and that of Judaism. Corbyn’s performative anti-antisemitism got him nowhere. It was an intellectually bankrupt approach, based on denial of simple facts. That and repeating of society wide lies. In failing to name the powers, he was crushed by them. There have been attempts coming from Left intellectuals to try and understand the Jewish experience vis a vis… Read more »
very good points, as admitted by the jews themselves, antisemitism is merely a tool, a weapon to be deployed against those whom the jews wish to destroy.
however their power is considerable, with their fifth columnists secreted [mandelson,levy,hodge et al] none dare say an alien menace is interfering with british politics or actually engaging in wholesale corruption [mossad buying ministers].
off course they have no power to destroy a major political party at a general election, that would be antisemitic to say so.
the jews lost control of the party under corbyn now they are back in control again, ready to help their brethren in high finance strip mine old blighty with the tory turds.
None dare say that the biggest election interference in america is not by Russia, China or Iran but that little haven for pedophiles on the Mediterranean, comprised of stolen land. Adelson, Haim, the neo cohens that drive our foreign policy into the oppressing others. It is why I am moving out of this country. Terrible place now.
The pyramid, capstone and all-seeing eye are obviously part of the structure of power over the poor which the mural depicts. Surely nobody is unaware in this day and age that Freemasonry is part of that power structure. The police, for example, are notorious for their deep involvement in it, yet we don’t think of our police as a Jewish-run organization…
It’s greed and money which are the enemy here. Not race or religion.
Noble ideals maybe, but contradicted by the facts I would say. Nobody says that the police are a ‘jewish run organisation’, and to refute that is to shoot down a straw man. What is frequently said, is what I said, that Freemasonry has deep ideological links with Judaism. ‘In the words of Marx, “we recognize therefore in Judaism a generally present anti-social element which has been raised to its present peak by historical development, in which the Jews eagerly assisted.” ‘ [from the above linked article by Joyce] Would Marx, if alive today, have supported Corbyn as the Chief Rabbi, The Board of Deputies, the CAA, and all three UK Jewish newspapers chimed in unison declaring him ‘an existential threat’ ? I wish it were not anything to do with race or religion, it would make the struggle for a more just world far simpler. My reluctant conclusion is that… Read more »
I can’t quite find the link but I think it was in a video of Manly P. Hall that quotes ‘Judaism is freemasonry and freemasonry is Judaism. Two try to separate the two is to try to separate a fish from water’ or some such. From one of the linchpins of early 20th century freemasonry.
“Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”—-Rabbi Isaac Wise.
The Jewish Tribune newspaper, in 1927, in an editorial, stated: “Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”
I believe that Albert Pike said similar.
A look at symbology of the two traditions reveals a wealth of common ground, as does the interest in Kabbalah.
So… is the mural ‘antisemitic’ ?
Yes the links to Kabbalah are striking but alot of these share common ground as they were borne out of the ancient mystery schools.
As regards the mural I believe according to our ‘rulers’ (sic) the law now states that perception has become reality. So for some it will be anti-semitic and for others not. Personally I don’t take much interest in such opinions.
Freemasons are Gnostic Warriors. They believe in the destruction of all humanity in order to merge the two opposing forces, Lucifer and God into a synthesis creating Armageddon and hence some kind of rebirth. It’s basically nonsensical rubbish. Perhaps they don’t even really believe it, but they certainly teach it in their lodges and in their writings. They are just psychopaths. They use Zionism and Zionists (who are also psychopaths) as their cover and their shield for some of their operations such as certain media conglomerates, and tech development, such as Unit 8200 companies that are now involved in policing and surveillance. But the bankers are behind all the wars, all the pandemics, all the terror and all the weather events and disasters. Ordo Ab Chao. It actually makes no difference what race or religion these bankers are, because their personal beliefs are irrelevant. We need to stop the agenda… Read more »
Freemasonry is fun for fools. It’s a mutual benefit society. It’s a mafia. It began, as author (not comedian) Martin Short points out, as a Catholic trade union for the builders of Europe’s grand churches and became, over time, a Protestant cult of sorts. There’s a zillion books on Freemasonry, but the best are by the late Stephen Knight and Martin Short, who took up Knight’s material after Knight’s death and wrote a sequel of his own (which reveals his ignorance of the Christian Bible, but is otherwise very good).
Interesting. Thanks.
AH yes, the Christian Bible, the arbiter of all Truth!
https://jesusneverexisted.com
The Bible is a library.
The arbiter of nothing.
Not good to talk about religion while being ‘ignorant’ of the Christian Bible, but I do know Stephen Knight’s work – it is good and thorough.
Anyone can be wrong. If they are humble enough to be corrected, then that’s just progress. I tried mightily to find Martin Short again a while ago. I could not. I found maybe a hint about where he was. The lead was impossible to follow. If I could have reached out to him, I might have pointed out that he really got the Temple wrong. Not a little wrong. Other than that, the book wasn’t about the Christian Bible specifically, but about Freemasonry, and I felt that it was very informative. Stephen Knight’s case is interesting. He was just another BBC reporter who someone from Scotland Yard contacted about suddenly declassified information about Jack The Ripper. Like a zillion other reporters who are periodically given the task of writing something about the Ripper murders, Stephen’s turn was up. Ergo… I find that the fact that he died at age 33… Read more »
Not according to the Catholic Church. They do not agree with that statement ” A Catholic trade union” “The Catholic Church has difficulty with freemasonry because it is indeed a kind of religion unto itself. The practice of freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites, and promises of eternal reward and punishment.”
https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/catholics-and-freemasonry.html
Spot on.
If that is the true aim of Freemasonry, then most of its followers are completely unaware of it.
That said, there is certainly an occult side to it, which anybody reading about it can confirm, and, like any other ‘arcane wisdom’, that aspect is open to all sorts of interpretations and possible abuses by the higher ranks.
I very much agree with your last paragraph, but I did not set up a straw man.
I pointed to a ready example of how what we see on the surface often belies what is underneath.
Exactly the same is true of your example. The links between Freemasonry and Judaism are not visible on the surface. There are even some masons in my family, yet none of them is Jewish, and I am sure that is true for a great many people.
Also, noble ideals are frequently contradicted by “the facts”, because the facts exclude the very thing that makes ideals “noble”. And that thing is morality.
Cold, scientific analysis has always had a tough time getting to grips with that.
Thank you, Kit Knightly! Your deft, straight as a die, morally uncomrpomised argument comes on the very day that Jonathan Freedman spewed yet another heap of noxious mendacity on the Guardian, in yet another salcious hatchet job on Jeremy Corbyn. Of course, Freedland allowed no comments.
Denoucing this beautiful mural as anti-semitic is a true act of a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. A better example couldn’t be found.
I guess the irony of it all also escapes them.
The recording of the mural being done is interesting. It did raise some local concerns at the time, until it was finished. Only morons with an axe to grind and looking for a victim couldn’t or wouldn’t see this mural for what it was.
If this mural has to be explained to anyone then they should be advised to stop concerning themselves with adult material.
Agreed, with the small caveat that I wouldn’t describe the mural as exactly “beautiful”…
Blunt, and effective, is how it strikes me.
Too little too late as usual Kit. You really should be bashing Rabbi Freedland and LaHyde And the witches cabal led by Hodge- And you really Should be attacking SirScammer and his complete abandonment of his Anti Hard BrexShit stance that got him where he is, while serving alongside the nazis JC! And his protection of paedophiles like Janner the Butt and Thatcher favourite Saville and his persecution of Assange – all while being head of the CPS , installed by Blair/Campbell to be the gatekeeper and cleaner up of their bloody war crimes. You really should be attacking the great reset of the Hard BrexShit – so why aren’t you? Why have you not even mentioned it once? Or the postal vote fraud? Or LauraKOftheCIA and the rest of the full spectrum media narrative? So you go back to write something you didn’t because it was not possible for… Read more »
Your self-confessed campaign to discredit this site and your undisguised contempt for everything we do wouldn’t allow you to say anything else, now would it?
A2
for once he was right.. it wasn’t an attack on the site.
Dung. has had a reply like this for every article we’ve published recently, and yes this is a sustained hate campaign against this site, he has admitted this. Even a stopped clock….
Thanks, A2.
Always enjoy seeing you crying like a baby over Brexit, Dung boy. Diddums.
That’s BrexShit cliffy.
And my reply as usual is unpublished by the censorious thugs that police this site.
I think this article would have been better to actually highlight those making the charges against Corbyn and who are their influences and backers. Without that this comes across as a defensive piece without providing any context to that defence. There is a very good video on Youtube I think by Al-Jazeera exposing the influence and infiltration of the Labour party by the Labour Friends of Israel grouping. They have been seeking to influence policy as part of the Israeli lobby. There is also such a lobby acting to do the same within the Tory party. Their influence in British politics is huge. As a result the Israeli lobby has a.big say in British politics and along with the British board of deputies can actively be seen to be lobbying on behalf of jewish people and by extension Israel. The number of jewish people of influence in politics in the… Read more »
you sir have touched the third rail, and without addressing this problem things are very bleak for us.
there are thousands of minority advocacy groups in britain, look for one representing ethnic englishmen…. good luck.
When the erstwhile chancellor asked to have a seat at Trumps ceremonial banquet as tradition allows, he was unceremoniously refused by the head of a rather large group. That they along with such groups as as Britain First, EDL allow little token fig leaf does not disguise their target audience and mindset. I’m also fairly sure the semi permanent seat on QT for mr Farage is not there for him to advocate for minorities.
yes, comedy gold isn’t it. i love a bit of theatre with all my favourite establishment actors.
And who is it laid the third,second and first rails in the first place? Gammon! the cannon fodder. The huge topic that can’t be spoken. The people who actually handle the physical stuff the world is made of. The world is literally in their hands but no one has told them.
Kit, you regret not putting this essay out a year ago? Do you honestly think it would have made the slightest difference? The attempt to turn Labour into some kind of Auschwitz patrol party would have chuntered on anyway – and indeed continues to do so to this day. It doesn’t matter how pathetic it is, how screamingly stupid. It wouldn’t even matter if all the ZioBlairites came out and confessed, “Of course it’s all a load of shit!”. After that, they could go back to their little Indiana Jones crusade against the melting Corby-Hitler faces and the media would be ecstatically enthusiastic to promote it as Schindler’s List – The Musical.
John D. (Rockefeller) = John Dee. Another John D. was John D. Watson, behourist psychologist of ‘Little Alfred’ infamy and husband of the sister of Harold ickes, FDR cabinet minister. The Michael Powell film PEEPING TOM where a psychologist conducts trauma-based mind control and sexual experiments of a boy and produces a serial killer looks based on Watson who died the year before the film was made (it also happens to be the thesis of Dave McGowan in PROGRAMMED TO KILL).
Anyone new to Crowley and who wants to look further than the SGT PEPPER album cover might look at the work of William Ramsey (either on his Youtube channel ‘William Ramsey Investigates’ or books like CHILDREN OF THE BEAST.
The fundamental problem is that the goal posts moved as a result of Zionism being deliberately conflated with Judaism. Back in the day an anti-semite was easily recognized, it was someone with an irrational hatred of people — your friends, neighbors, colleagues, whoever — just because they belonged to a distinct cultural group. The ‘new’ anti-Semite is anyone who rejects Zionism as a racist ideology and, by extension, anyone who criticizes the State of Israel and in particular its policies towards Palestinians. In particular you’re not allowed to describe these policies as racist, apartheit or refer to places like Gaza as ‘ghettos’ — this will get you into trouble big time and its no use saying “but it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck”. (Incidentally, if you’re actually Jewish and regard these policies as abhorrent then you’re just called ‘self-hating’.) Jews are like anyone else, they’ve got… Read more »
Another article predicated on the FALSE idea that they use ‘truth’ and ‘facts’, and when they get it ‘wrong’ it’s all an accidental ‘whoopsie’- a near universal theme in articles written here. Yet most of us here are aware of the work of Edward Bernays, close relative of the even worse Sigmund Freud, whose very perverted descendent was a recent member of the House of Commons, and a very favourite media figure of the BBC- Clement Freud (another one who spent his life r–ing children). There is a power cult that uses the mechanisms of power and psychology, and NOT truth, to control what people hear, read and think. So this mural represents literally whatever leading members of this cult says it does, simply on the basis that they have worked insanely hard to gain direct access to the thought patterns of the majority of citizens. Bernays and Freud were… Read more »
yes, the corollary of this is the covid hoax, the check mate so to speak.
British Labour = dead, buried, cremated.
A new party must rise, leave the husk behind.
Whether one knows it or not it has been dead for some time (since at least Blairigula’s reign of terror). What Stormtrooper and his criminal associates are doing now are preparing the remains for burial.
‘Stormtrooper’? No; nothing like virile enough. Taking the knee suits him better.
Leave the parties and the election charades and the gangster politicians behind, I say.
Yeah, those guys are middlemen, real demons are (actually) underground.
So I got a reply from Tony Optics for my previous comments on the last thread, (banned, so far).
‘Thank You’ he said.
So I guess I am dead now, or worse.
Okay, I tried.
Try, try,try.
Seems like Keir Stormtrooper and the rest of the racist Zionazi Death Kult goyim are preparing for Labours dissolution. Zionism is not Judaism.
i suggest you read the talmud particularly their mishna, and then readjust your perspective on supremacist rabbis and their followers.
“The Judaism in which I was raised and in which I received my Bar Mitzvah taught me to oppose and fight white hoods and sheets, burning crosses in the night, pogroms, ethnic cleansings, denying others their rights due to religion, ethnicity or “race.” It inculcated and instilled in me, among other things, to respect the inherent dignity of others, as well as their rights. With me the “Golden Rule” rules, so I will defer from telling you “to go blow it out your pie hole.”“
ad hominem is no refutation,and the tired old cliches are no substitute for informed debate.
perhaps you should refer to gilad atzmon for an alternative perspective.
“ad hominem, cliches, dr death”?
“It is a shame that you have such a cavalier attitude not only about the venerable religion of Judaism but about human rights, a real shame.
‘Zionism is not Judaism.’ Ummm … the Promised Land? I thought that is part-and-parcel of Judaism.
“There was something in there about “AFTER THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH.” Either my Rabbi was incorrect or Theodore Herzl, Ze’ev Jabotinsky, David Grun, Hayyim Vaytsman or some other racist Nimrod has assumed that title.
Time for the WAR RACKETEERS, THE ROYAL MAFIA CRIME FAMILY and their racist quislings to let go of their insane fantasies of taking over (controlling) the LEVANT.”
Who do you think should control the Levant? From looking at maps there seems to be two versions, one stretching from Greece round to Libya, and a smaller, south of Turkey and ending east of Egypt. I wondered if levant was a French word, they having colonial connections there. Turns out it’s an archaic verb meaning to run away, typically leaving unpayed debts!
Thank you.
I stand corrected, S Cooper. Thank you. Go easy on the ‘Royal Mafia Crime Family’, though. That is dangerous.
The common denominator whether they are Jewish or Gentile is they have no no value, no empathy, no conscience on what they do by their actions to their fellow man !!!!
Wo, baby,
Big turnaround on threads here.
To stop people reading previous thread comments, surely not !
Sorry, meant as an original comment, Brianborou.
Now to read this new one…