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Everybody Knows the Fight was Fixed

Edward Curtin

“Yeah, like [in] a church. Church of the Good Hustler.”
Fast Eddie Felson (Paul Newman) in The Hustler

At the end of Henrik Ibsen’s classic play, A Doll’s House, Nora, the aggrieved wife, leaves her husband’s house and all the illusions that sustained its marriage of lies. She chooses freedom over fantasy.  She will no longer be played with like a doll but will try to become a free woman – a singular one.

“There is another task I must undertake first. I must try and educate myself,” she tells her husband Torvald, a man completely incapable of understanding the social programming that has made him society’s slave.

When Nora closes the doll’s house door behind her, the sound is like a hammer blow of freedom. For anyone who has seen the play, even when knowing the outcome in advance, that sound is profound. It keeps echoing. It interrogates one’s conscience.

The echo asks: Do you live inside America’s doll house where a vast tapestry of lies, bad faith, and cheap grace keep you caged in comfort, as you repeat the habits that have been drilled into you?

In this doll’s house of propaganda into which America has been converted, a great many of our basic assumptions are totally illusory.

Americans who voted for either Trump or Biden in the 2020 election are like Torvald clones.  They refuse to open that door so they might close it behind them. 

They live in the doll’s house – all 146+ million of them. Like Torvald, they are comforted. They are programmed and propagandized, embracing the illusion that the electoral system is not structured and controlled to make sure no significant change can occur, no matter who is president. It is a sad reality promoted as democracy.

They will prattle on and give all sorts of reasons why they voted, and for whom, and how if you don’t vote you have no right to bitch, and how it’s this sacred right to vote that makes democracy great, blah blah blah. It’s all sheer nonsense. For the U.S.A. is not a democracy; it is an oligarchy run by the wealthy for the wealthy.

This is not a big secret.  Everybody knows this is true; knows the electoral system is sheer show business with the presidential extravaganza drawing the big money from corporate lobbyists, investment bankers, credit card companies, lawyers, business and hedge fund executives, Silicon Valley honchos, think tanks, Wall Street gamblers, millionaires, billionaires, et. al.  Biden and Trump spent over 3 billion dollars on the election. They are owned by the money people.

Both are old men with long, shameful  histories. A quick inquiry will show how the rich have profited immensely from their tenures in office.  There is not one hint that they could change and have a miraculous conversion while in future office, like JFK.  Neither has the guts or the intelligence.  They are nowhere men who fear the fate that John Kennedy faced squarely when he turned against the CIA and the war machine.  They join the craven company of Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan G.H.W. Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama.  They all got the message that was sent from the streets of Dallas in 1963: You don’t want to die, do you?

Ask yourself: Has the power of the oligarchic, permanent warfare state with its propaganda and spy networks, its vast intelligence apparatus, increased or decreased in the past half century? Who is winning the battle, the people or the ruling elites? The answer is obvious.

It matters not at all whether the president has been Trump or Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, Barack Obama or George H. W. Bush, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, or Jimmy Carter. The power of the national security state has grown under them all and everyone is left to moan and groan and wonder why.

All the while, the doll’s house has become more and more sophisticated and powerful. It is now essentially an electronic prison that is being “Built Back Better.” The new Cold War now being waged against Russia and China is a bi-partisan affair, as is the confidence game played by the secret government intended to create a fractured consciousness in the population through their corporate mass-media stenographers. Trump and his followers on one side of the coin; liberal Democrats on the other.

Only those backed by the wealthy power brokers get elected in the U.S.A. Then when elected, it’s payback time.  Palms are greased.  Everybody knows this is true. It’s called corruption.  So why would anyone, who opposes a corrupt political oligarchy, vote, unless they were casting a vote of conscience for a doomed third-party candidate?

Leonard Cohen told it true with “Everybody Knows”:

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

And yet everybody who voted for the two men backed by the super-rich owners of the country knew what they were doing, unless they live under a rock and come out every four years to vote.  Perhaps they were out buying stuffing for the Thanksgiving turkey, so they can give thanks for the farce (stuffing: Latin: farcire ).

They have their reasons.  Now the Biden people celebrate, just as Trump’s supporters did in 2016.  I can hear fireworks going off as I write here in a town where 90% + voted for Biden and hate Trump with a passion more intense than what they ever could work up for a spurned lover or spouse.  This is mass psychosis. It’s almost funny.

At least we have gotten rid of Trump, they say.  No one can be worse. They think this is logic. Like Torvald, they cannot begin to understand why anyone would want to leave the doll’s house, how anyone could refuse to play a game in which the dice are loaded. They will deny they are in the doll’s house while knowing the dice are loaded and still roll the die, not caring that their choice – whether it’s Tweedledee or Tweedledum – will result in the death and impoverishment of so many, that being the end result of oligarchic rule at home and imperialism abroad.

Orwell called this Doublethink:

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them…. To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary.

And while in Nineteen Eighty-Four Doublethink is learned by all the Party members “and certainly by all who are intelligent as well as orthodox,” today in the USA, it has been mastered even by the so-called unintelligent.

To live in the USA is to live in the Church of the Good Hustler.

People often ask: What can we do to make the country better?  What is your alternative?

A child could answer that one: Don’t vote if you know that both contenders are backed by the super-rich elites, what some call the Deep State.  Which of course they are. Everybody knows.

The so-called left and right argue constantly about whom to support.  It’s a pseudo-debate constructed to allow people to think their vote counts; that the game isn’t rigged. It’s hammered into kids’ heads from an early age. Be grateful, give thanks that you live in a democracy where voting is allowed and your choice is as important as a billionaire’s such as Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, or Charles Koch. In the voting booth we are all equal.

Myths die hard. This one never does:

Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams, will define our American destiny. And your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.”
Donald Trump, January 20, 2017

With the campaign over, it’s time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation. It’s time for America to unite. And to heal.”
Joe Biden, November 7, 2020

Above all else, the time has come for us to renew our faith in ourselves and in America.  In recent years, that faith has been challenged.”
Richard Nixon, January 20, 1973

Your voice – our faith – it’s time to unite and heal.

Ask the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Afghanis, the Libyans, the Palestinians, et al.  They sing a different tune, one not heard In the Church of the Good Hustler.

After campaigning hard for the losing presidential candidate in 1972, I nearly choked when I heard Richard Nixon’s inaugural address in January 1973. Clinging to the American myth the previous year, I had campaigned for a genuine anti-war Democrat, Senator George McGovern.

The war against Vietnam was still raging and Nixon, who had been first elected in 1968 as a “peace candidate,” succeeding the previous “peace candidate” Lyndon Baines Johnson, was nevertheless overwhelmingly elected, despite Watergate allegations appearing in the months preceding the election.  Nixon won forty-nine states to McGovern’s one – Massachusetts, where I lived. 

It was a landslide. I felt sick, woke up, got up, and left the doll’s house.

“Propaganda is the true remedy for loneliness,” wrote the French sociologist Jacques Ellul in 1965 in Propaganda:

It corresponds to the need to share, to be a member of a community, to lose oneself in a group, to embrace a collective ideology that will end loneliness…. It also corresponds to deep and constant needs, more developed today, perhaps, than ever before: the need to believe and obey, to create and hear fables, to communicate in the language of myths.

In a country where loneliness is widespread, the will to believe and the power of positive thinking are far more powerful than the will to truth.  Unlike Nora, who knew that when she left the doll’s house she was choosing the loneliness of the solitary soul, Americans prefer myths that induce them to act out of habit so they can lose themselves in the group.

This is so despite the fact that In the Church of the Good Hustler, when you play the game, you lose.  We are all Americans and your vote counts and George Washington never told a lie.

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Farley
Farley
Nov 20, 2020 4:31 AM

New Song from 2084- “Democracy on Display” Inspired by the absolutely ridiculous politics of the USA of the moment, instead of getting bent out of shape emotionally about it, Farley decided to make a song instead. It was great stress relief and fun to make! Please enjoy this song and share it if you can if you think someone might get a laugh out of it. Democracy on Display is a sarcastic celebration of the empowerment of people in American Democracy. With a choice between two guys and two parties, you do have a real choice! Musically with elements of electro-dance, Russian classical music, hip hop, choral and world music. Don’t worry, we don’t take sides! Farley is also looking for some help! Does anyone want to help him make a video for the song so he can put it on Youtube? He doesn’t mind what the video of, as… Read more »

Bogdan
Bogdan
Nov 19, 2020 4:31 PM

This article could be easier to digest if we were looking at it from a level of another civilisation. Like in the spiritual realm we are faced with good and evil, so it is our physical life. There is no just good and prefect solution for humanity. We are faced with both choices of progress and status quo. Progress will take us to the unknown and status quo will make us stale predictable. Yes rich are playing the game with rest of us, but amongst themselves they still want to be the winners and they need us for that. Our role is not just to elect the winners but once they are elected continually check them at every step of a way. They one tool which we miss in this so called democratic process is a way to revoke elected officials during their terms. Liquid democracy might be a solution… Read more »

-CO
-CO
Nov 18, 2020 6:20 PM

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BADGER BADGERISM
BADGER BADGERISM
Nov 18, 2020 6:01 PM

NEXT ONE WONT BE | US KICKING THEIR BUTTS

-CO
-CO
Nov 18, 2020 4:20 PM

Americans its time for justice and the principles of the constitution and the common law to be restored before it’s too late and a totalitarian regime is imposed upon you -JOIN the common law Court and join it NOW !

billy bob
billy bob
Nov 18, 2020 2:35 PM

Trump is a chump. They took it from him in plain sight and he was too weak and confused to do anything about it.

Rebel
Rebel
Nov 18, 2020 11:29 AM

Trump may be one of the Deep State but like a teen saying to his parents to get lost I will do things my way he is doing it to the elites. If that is the case is better then the obidient Biden.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 9:50 AM

“the U.S.A. is not a democracy; it is an oligarchy run by the wealthy for the wealthy.” Sorry, no. The whole point about Trump is that he is the great anti-politician, the outsider, the patriot enemy of the corrupt ruling elites who only care about status, power and control, not the interests of the American people or any other. By contrast, Biden is clearly the perfect puppet of the oligarchy and political establishment. The ruling class expected their ally Clinton to win in 2016, never Trump. The great election steal of 2020 is all about reversing this little surprise, and to make sure that the irksome people power of US democracy will finally be under full control. No more land of the free; the USA is now on the cusp of becoming a leftist fascist dictatorship, in which US patriots are the new German Jews, and in which future elections… Read more »

A Texas Libertarian
A Texas Libertarian
Nov 18, 2020 6:05 AM

If you don’t see that there is a big difference between Trump and Biden, then you are still in the dollhouse. Trump certainly ain’t perfect, but at least he wants to keep the economy open. Biden is the lock down candidate. If that’s all I knew about each of these candidates, it’d be enough to vote for Trump. But there is a lot more.

Also, ‘democracy’ is the virus, not the cure, and Orwell was a dumb ass socialist.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 18, 2020 4:18 PM

I think Orwell’s blind-spot was in being British. He couldn’t see that Britain (City of London) was at the centre of it all.

A Texas Libertarian
A Texas Libertarian
Nov 18, 2020 9:20 PM

True. The British intellectual class was thoroughly saturated with socialist thought during Orwell’s time. But Murray Rothbard attended Columbia U in the 50s when it was dominated by communists, and he became Mr. Libertarian, so I can’t cut Mr. Orwell too much slack.

eckbach
eckbach
Nov 18, 2020 5:33 AM

Of course it matters. What is the difference between Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her replacement? The freaks screamed in hysterical horror.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon
Nov 17, 2020 11:55 PM

With all of his warts, Nixon did end the Vietnam war. Reagan ended the Cold War and mutually assured destruction. Wilson got the US into WWI, FDR did WWII, Truman set up Korea and Clinton tried to heat up Yugoslavia.
George Wallace circa 1965 said there wasn’t a dimes worth of difference between the Democrats and Republicans. They are different branches of the corporate party and globalists competing for the speed of takeover. Trump is a corporatist but for all of his faults has gone off script with his own corporatist agenda to cut in on the action, and the owners ain’t havin’ it, because the Trumpian party is ever-so mildly nationalistic. Nationalism cannot be allowed to rear its beautiful head, because people will love it. Trump is a turd, alright, but Biden is a pile of shit.

A Texas Libertarian
A Texas Libertarian
Nov 18, 2020 5:56 AM
Reply to  Curmudgeon

Well put!

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 9:53 AM
Reply to  Curmudgeon

Would Biden end endless wars of intervention against the wishes of the neo-cons and military-industrial complex, as Trump has been doing?

Nobodys Fool
Nobodys Fool
Nov 17, 2020 11:11 PM

Wow what a hopeless and dreary world you live in. I left the dollhouse in the weeks after 9-11 when I realized the official narrative was full of holes. But I don’t find the world out here quite so dreary as you. Call me a dreamer, but I still believe that good always (eventually) wins over evil, and I believe the ideals of America – the very same ones that were probably sold to us as a fake bill of goods a long time ago – is REAL and not an illusion because so many people believe in it. Perception is reality. Donald Trump despite all his personal quirks and flaws I sincerely believe to be a deal maker who is interested in protecting and serving the American people. Even if it’s out of his own narcissism that he wants to do so I’ll take it. Regardless, one good thing… Read more »

Wolfe. Nero Wolfe.
Wolfe. Nero Wolfe.
Nov 17, 2020 7:11 PM

Simply want to say to the author that your article is incredibly timely and a propos for me. I’ve left the doll’s house. My isolation stems primarily from people who cannot fathom and to whom I cannot even begin speaking because of their Monarch mind control.

Remember this old canard, Edward?

“I can see clearly now the rain is gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind….”

Unfortunately, there are no upcoming blue skies.

Lysias
Lysias
Nov 17, 2020 2:01 PM

If it made no difference who won, why were the elites so fanatically opposed to Trump?

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 17, 2020 3:00 PM
Reply to  Lysias

It does make a difference cf. the mad scramble to get GWB elected in 2000. At that time the rulers had decided on years of aggressive foreign policy therefore they need the “war party” in. When Obama was pitted against the lame duck McCain it was time for some “smiley face” rule with a surge in the woke factor with the first (gasp!) African American president.

With Trump, I think it was a genuine shock when he was elected. Like Brexit in the UK, it just wasn’t supposed to happen! Trump is too much of a wild card. Too revealing. Suggesting there’s a deep state and actually taking conspiracies seriously? How dare he!. More to the point, he’s not getting with the covid program.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:22 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It seems quite possible that Trump never even wanted to be President.
Too much hard work, dealing with other people and so on…
But it does look good on your c.v.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 10:01 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Trump had the perfect billionaire’s lifestyle, but gave it all up to run for the presidency. He donated all presidential salary to good causes and says he has lost billions by becoming president, unlike any other political leader you care to mention. More seriously, he has put himself and family in grave danger by opposing the corrupt ruling classes of the USA, and by his insolent attempt to ‘drain the swamp’. In the near future, the elites will persecute and try to imprison him and his family, to prevent any further rebellion against their control in the land of the unfree.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:25 PM
Reply to  Lysias

We don’t really know how fanatically opposed to him they actually are.
What the media choose to show us always has several layers of superficial, misleading crap attached to it.
Appearing to be opposed to something is a pretty old trick, after all.
It covers your ass.

Lysias
Lysias
Nov 17, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Paying off the BLM rioters? That’s not something you do just to create an appearance.

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 16, 2020 11:38 PM

Wim Hof: “Afraid of corona? Fuck off! You are not afraid of the corona virus?“Afraid of corona? Fuck off! By the way, I think I’ve already had it. I am never sick, but last February I had a good few days. My wife too. Not that I was sick in bed or anything, because I’m too busy for that. In nature you don’t have time to be sick either. There you rely on your immune system. That’s your best friend. If you take good care of it, it will take good care of you. You really don’t need a vaccine for that. That’s why this is so important. This book, the movie, everything. Everyone should know this! ”Your method would also work wonders for your immune system. Does it also help against corona?“Sure. And they aren’t miracles, are they? We already scientifically demonstrated this in 2014. Back then it was… Read more »

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Nov 17, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Jodie

Wim Hof: “Afraid of corona? Fuck off!
STOP CORONA DICTATUUR NU!

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:35 AM
Reply to  Jodie

Good to see that Danish news. Actual good news? Who would have thought it…

Now if we could just make sure Hancock gets to see that Tweet…

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 11:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6idYZ25Qq6w&feature=emb_rel_end

Best this year… Totally in topic

John Anderson’s brilliant interview of American historian Victor Davis Hanson on Us election 2020

(2 million views)

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 16, 2020 9:27 PM

Everybody knows the game is over. Everybody knows there’s no way back. Everybody knows it’s time to go. Everybody knows.

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Nov 16, 2020 9:21 PM

Why all of a sudden I feel like reading Dante Alighieri´s Inferno following the analogie of Ibsen´s Doll´s House? In variation of Dante it will be to abandon hope all ye who cannot leave Torvald´s house. Many of us are not like plucky Nora and sad but true the house/bank always wins and everybody else loses. According to Marx it´s always those who hold the economic power and make the decisions that rule. It´s old hat. Indeed why vote at all ? Gore Vidal once said that there is only one party in the United States, the Property Party- and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. I never thought I would be on the same side as Trumpf in anything. Tempi passati. However, only anti-globalist Trump gets the flak from Schwab´s cabal who even have the power to mask up the little children all around the world. I… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 10:14 AM
Reply to  Schmitz Katze

I wonder how the spontis would view German Antifas today, who have been attacking those protesting against the lockdown. Is it true that German authorities banned the lockdown protests, not Antifa’s counter protest?

https://thepostmillennial.com/germany-antifa-mob-protest-end-of-lockdown

Myall
Myall
Nov 16, 2020 7:34 PM

“In a country where loneliness is widespread … Americans prefer myths that induce them to act out of habit so they can lose themselves in the group”

The author here is breaking from the neo-convention that says being alone is being ‘Independent’, ‘Confident’ and ‘Emotionally Intelligent’ ..

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 6:25 PM

Oh for fuck’s sake! I’m trapped with the TV news and they’re really orgasming over this vaccine like it’s the second coming. Oh and there’s the concerned voice: “Betty has been suffering silently but in acute agony. But now there is a glimmer of hope.”

Jesus fucking Christ can you imagine broadcasting this even 6 months ago? Imagine the well deserved jeers mixed with the sound of honking into vomit bowls.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 6:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I can think of several presenters I’d happily see injected in the arse… if only they’d walk the talk live on TV. Maybe all three “miracle vaccines” at once.

Guarantee them their jobs, to be fair, just in case they need to spend the next few years twitching and slobbering in the corner of the studio.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

What gets me is the relentless overkill of this excrement. On and on it goes like a Wagner opera produced by Phil Spector. Do you think there are households sitting there with tears streaming down?

No I think a solid wall of underlying decency is building up into a vast release of total ridicule.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 6:51 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Ha! Only today I was wondering about the Siegfried reveries of Mr Schwab and his Fourth Rei.. sorry Industrial Revolution.

This guy thinks there’s something to it: Wagner, Siegfried, Marx and the New World Order, by Jeremy James

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Probably contain only saline water in their case… there’s no viable solution, lol

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

There’s no limit to their contempt.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:46 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Grab a book bro, get out of there it’s unbearable… as bored as I am and lonely (God dammit), since a few days I cant tune to any of it, any!… i’m stuck with The Phaser and other links… and watch old (enought) movies… I’m at my 20th Graham Green novel this year

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 7:16 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

We’ve got that double-edged sword, a networked connection to the outside world. I don’t think they’ll ever make it one-way because they want to monitor our views. Keep the skills up and follow the DWeb or decentralized web. Someone advised to learn the techniques of the Chinese dissidents which begins with de-Googling. Failing that, there’s always the pleasure of scouring the market for a working typewriter.

And never trust a globalist: How China forced UNHRC to hand out names of activists

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 8:04 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I know but what can we do… if we can’t express our opinions, I don’t see the point of being human… i’ll go first actually, don’t even want to see it … but that’s me… thanks for the links

Kalen
Kalen
Nov 16, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  George Mc

MRNA technology is untested and its inoculation and immunogenicity model unproven so far. The mechanism of immuno-response to mRNA vaccine itself as well as side effects of cell development largely unknown, possibly facilitating enhanced autoimmune response. And that are general questions about technology not specific to COVID.

Regarding SC2/COVID vaccine: They published nothing but headlies to blatantly bump the stock prices and dump their own shares. I checked everywhere no details. I will wait for paper in NEJM or BJM about phase 3 results as they published in July about result of phase 2 with 50% of severe to moderate side effects after second inoculation.

Pfizer and Moderna have already been paid. So they have to hype junk they vomit.

dus7
dus7
Nov 16, 2020 9:35 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Actually, headlies is a very usable term and can be applied to much of the media today!

Nick
Nick
Nov 16, 2020 11:09 PM
Reply to  Kalen

That they’re just cashing in their share options now tells a story. If they were confident their vaccine would be approved and rolled out,they’d be holding on to their shares for that moment,as that is when price will escalate. The numbers don’t add up,plus side effects will be really materialising soon,hence the indecent haste.

Nick
Nick
Nov 16, 2020 11:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s even the same on youtube with nhs interviews with “long” covid sufferers. Cue dramatic background music,lingering shots of hands being wrung,and overwrought,drama school level acting. Please,these “actors” were pictures of health. Boak inducing in the same way as a bottle of buckfast…nauseating heavy syrup rotting the guts.

gordens alive
gordens alive
Nov 17, 2020 4:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

these are the actions of satanists and zionists khazar pirates

why bring jesus into it
unless you are with them

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 16, 2020 6:19 PM

Michael Reynolds anticipated a day when people would abandon the cities. Looks like that day has arrived or it’s high time it did. Let’s organise new communities and help those who want to live not throw good money after bad.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Jodie

Are you kidding, they’re gonna bring them back in it by their ears

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 16, 2020 8:23 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

lol no. ‘The virus’ spreads faster in the city:) We need to spread out.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 8:30 PM
Reply to  Jodie

They want us confined (locked up) in cities. They will cease property (your newly acquired country house), and bring you back in a truck that they will provide if you can pay. If not, fema camp (temporarily of course)

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 17, 2020 12:00 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Who cares what they want? Your obviously one of them trying to brainwash people into thinking they are powerless.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  Jodie

wait, weren’t you ranting about “the game is over” a bit on top…? You’re an idiot aren’t you

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 1:10 AM
Reply to  Jodie

Obviously? Weren’t you ranting about it’s all over just up here? You’re an idiot

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

It seems Jodie still lives in a special kind of bubble!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 11:59 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

And we are here to free her from that bubble! (If she trusts us of course, if not… there’s always the MSM) But why should it be about trust again… let’s use our brains then, all of us in equality

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:10 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Ok forget what I said below… I just read her recent post and I think that bubble is ment to protect us

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 1:11 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

forget what I said below, after review I think that bubble is to protect the rest of us

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  Jodie

Do you know the story of that old japanese man living on an island?

gordens alive
gordens alive
Nov 16, 2020 6:16 PM

imagine this
a fantastic voyage of discovery of life and violent death

imagine a 5g world an internet of everything towers every 500 meters apart
imagine a transistor smaller than the size of a bacteria

imagine being able to signal an immune cell to generate antibodies that would fight bacteria or even cancer. That fictional possibility is now a step closer to reality with the development of a bio-compatible transistor the size of a virus. Hyman professor of chemistry Charles Lieber and his colleagues used nanowires to create a transistor so small that it can be used to enter and probe cells without disrupting the intracellular machinery. These nanoscale semiconductor switches could even be used to enable two-way communication with individual cells.

https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2011/01/virus-sized-transistors

Roberto
Roberto
Nov 16, 2020 5:47 PM

To believe that Trump was “… backed by the super-rich elites, what some call the Deep State.”, indeed requires doublethink of spectacular magnitude.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 5:37 PM

UK Column News – 16th November 2020 PART ONE “When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die.” THE BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL TAKES STAND ON POLITICIZED SCIENCE Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science, BMJ, Nov 13, 2020. “Politicisation of science was enthusiastically deployed by some of history’s worst autocrats and dictators, and it is now regrettably commonplace in democracies.20 The medical-political complex tends towards suppression of science to aggrandise and enrich those in power. And, as the powerful become more successful, richer, and further intoxicated with power, the inconvenient truths of science are suppressed. When good science is suppressed, people die.” Read full article here: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425 CENSORSHIP AND THE SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE Kier Starmer, Chief Tory Whip on the Labour Bench: “The challenge is how we get ready for the vaccine… a logistical operation probably larger than we’ve seen since WW2.” He then launches into military… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 5:13 PM

UK Column News – 16th November 2020 PART TWO POLICE RELATIONS WITH PUBLIC UTTERLY DESTROYED @32:00 mins UKC shows instances of police excess, tyranny and brutality. Essex gym owner closes gym — still arrested and brutalized https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2Nb3f29J8&feature=emb_title CORNWALL FREEDOM RALLY Truro police target 19 year old speaking about creativity, lockdown and mental health. Drag her into a van. Devon and Cornwall police say they’ll release her if protestors clear a path for the van. Police fail to keep their word, then move in on protestors. She was held for 24 hours, interrogated and then released under bail “to prevent further offenses and protect the public”. See her arrest here at @39:00 mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MTuA9-aqCs&feature=youtu.be&t=2360 David Scott: Police have abandoned the law. Assaulting and abducting people. This has nothing to do with obeying Covid rules, this is you must comply, you must obey the state. SHAUN SAWYER IS THE CHIEF CONSTABLE OF… Read more »

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 5:40 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

From RT While Common Pass limits its scope to passport and health information, the idea – a trusted international standard for sharing what would otherwise be private information – closely resembles the WEF’s Known Traveller Digital Identity program, which predates Covid-19. An all-purpose digital ID, KTDI combines Common Pass’ record of travel and health status with financial data, social relationships, and perhaps most disturbingly, behavioural information. While the WEF has not explicitly acknowledged the overlap between Common Pass and KTDI, it has admitted it is “currently piloting components of the KTDI concept in a real-life, cross-border context” and “engaging with international organizations” including two global airline standards bodies RT Ticketmaster is said to be working on “a framework for post-pandemic fan safety that uses smartphones to very fans’ vaccination status or whether they’ve tested negative for the coronavirus within a 24 to 72 hour window,” the outlet stated, suggesting an Orwellian hybrid… Read more »

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:16 PM

The current mindset of the herd of modern moron slaves is “If They let me travel, I see no problem with that”!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 9:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Just watched the video of the Essex gym owner arrested and manhandled to the ground. Yet another video of brutality from the fascist goon squad.
Anyone that shows any resistance… people of all ages, including elderly women and pregnant mothers. Just disgusting. And even more disgusting is that so many out there think this is about ‘keeping us all safe’. The delusional thinking!
They have embraced fascism out of their own fear and servility. I’ve lost count this year how many of these videos I’ve seen.

Binra
Binra
Nov 16, 2020 5:10 PM

The underlying patterning is of invested identities that manage conflicts under narrative masking – and which becomes unwieldy, over burdened, hollow, tired, stale, sacrificail and self-destructive – and so we come to the compression back to Source – which we may experience as fear and pain of loss in direct proportion to identifications that are no longer supportable, supported or relevant and helpful to who we now recognise ourselves to be. Any process of legality is avoided where bringing into the open has more danger to a systemic corruption, and so behind the scenes, deals are brokered – along with non disclosure. ‘The show must go on’ But alas in terms of keeping ‘face’ and legitimacy of control such as to hold the legal framework that protects them against a collective immune response, and sets societal protectors against the messengers of perspectives that would offer healing rather than sacrificial and… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  Binra

The complete first paragraph is five lines long yet only one sentence. The terminology and phrases are very difficult to understand.

”manage conflicts under narrative masking” ?

In the context of the pandemic, what is the conflict they’re managing ?

What is the ‘narrative masking” ? Do you just mean that they’re telling lies, ie ‘false narrative ?

”becoming sacrificial and self-destructive” ?

Who or what is ?

 ”we come to the compression back to Source – which we may experience as fear and pain of loss in direct proportion to identifications that are no longer supportable, supported or relevant’

Can you explain that a little clearer please.

”helpful to who we now recognise ourselves to be.”

What does that refer to ?

Ian
Ian
Nov 16, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Good old word salad 😋

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  Ian

You’re not kidding..i tried to replicate that and went insane

Binra
Binra
Nov 16, 2020 11:25 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

They mean exactly what they say. ”manage conflicts under narrative masking” ? Your inner conflict is masked over by your narrative identity. But unless you notice that, you will act out the mask as if your self. For what you invest in as your protection becomes your self. (I used ‘you’ – but not to single you out so much as to indicate a statement you can personally verify. But if you merely ‘think about’ you will not observe your thought process. The pan-ic-demic is replicating these symbols as our literal experience. You can more easily observe cognitive dissonance in others – if you are not under the spell of having reacted to fear and thus emotionally investing identity in its frame. All narratives operate a self-reinforcement to the underlying beliefs or believed fears’ running as perception-response or conditioned behaviours. That we can align in narratives that truly reflect who… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  Binra

‘Lies defended as truth demand the sacrifice of truth. Does this need explaining? However, the usurping of the mind is not recognised as such in those who ‘know not what they do’ – (cognitive dissonance).”

I think you mean a lie is a lie.

‘know not what they do’ is about not understanding the seriousness of the actions you may be carrying out and not realising the consequences. The quote is from the Bible. It has no relationship to cognitive dissonance if you know what cognitive dissonance is.

The rest is all a bit weighed down with 1990s new age self help quotes and tropes that don’t relate to anything or even each other. It’s OK in small doses if it’s placed in a much larger does of plain English..

Binra
Binra
Nov 17, 2020 6:20 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

No I mean that a lie identified in and masked over against truth is a sin. Cognitive dissonance is a modern word for a spiritual death – that knows not what it is – but thinks it does. I am not seeking or interested in your marks ‘teacher’. The waking of the dead is for those who choose from a new recognition. Even as you do unto the least (but not excluding any) – you do unto Me. You can think about this as long as you want but until you are willing to release your thinking mind and drop to the heart you act out the judge. A lie is not always a lie. If I was hiding you from thugs who had no legitimacy under the Law. and was asked if I had seen you, and said ‘no’, in order to protect you then I would be aligning… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 17, 2020 7:26 PM
Reply to  Binra

‘Sin’ is a subjective notion. A lie being a lie is a fact. Keep simple things simple. Trying to make everything profound for the sake of it drowns everything. ”Cognitive dissonance is a modern word for a spiritual death” It’s a two-word phrase that resides within the realms of Psychology. Spirituality again is a subjective notion and can only be speculated about at best. Cognitive Dissonance refers to the anguish experienced when you can’t prioritise one of two or more held beliefs that contradict one another. ”I am not seeking or interested in your marks ‘teacher’.” Just as well really. But, for the record, I asked to clarify something you said. That’s not teaching, it’s wanting to learn. ”Even as you do unto the least (but not excluding any) – you do unto Me. You can think about this as long as you want but until you are willing to release… Read more »

Binra
Binra
Nov 17, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I put my response to you at
https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2020/11/conflict-management-masking-behind-new.html

(At the bottom of the page).

If anyone has actually followed this they can read on there.
I stand in and value the points I made and I thank you for the opportunity to make them in the context of a world of cognitive dissonance fragmenting to a ‘Babel’ of inability to communicate.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 18, 2020 3:36 AM
Reply to  Binra

Which part of ‘plain English‘ threw you..

Binra
Binra
Nov 18, 2020 11:20 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Nothing you said ‘threw me’ – unless in your fantasy of reality control. If you cant follow the plain meanings i share, it may be that you have no intention or desire to understand anything that isn’t the reinforcement of your own bubble of ‘possession and control’. However, that is your freedom to decide for yourself. I am not suggesting that you SHOULD open to anyone or anything that you do not recognise as worthy. Where you assign your ‘worth-ship’ is what you give ‘with-ness’ to. I have extended to you a willingness to share that you, as yet. cannot see. It takes one to know one Juracalling. While you choose to dump your shit on others as a toxic guilt dump, then you shall, and reap the rewards that go with it. But for my part – no communication has opened between us apart from you asking a question… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 18, 2020 1:28 PM
Reply to  Binra

Well that just started it with a laugh..

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:29 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Never liked that… person

Binra
Binra
Nov 18, 2020 12:02 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

What sort of contribution is that?
So what if you ‘like’?
I don’t put my ‘person’ out here – but see how your snide comments reveal your own!
I am not writing here to be ‘liked’. Are you?

Is snide put-down the basis that you would build from.
Do you seek to join in hate so as to scapegoat the ‘leper’?
For that is what your behaviour reveals.
If you have an issue that you are able to own and speak then bring it out.
Or shut up.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 18, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  Binra

See? When comes the time to moralize people you suddenly become very clear,

Can’t help noticing how you contradict yourself in coming down on me for exactly not liking you.

In spirit, you sound like MSM… Denouncing hate, and shutting up people from the moral high ground.

Download yourself a sense of humour, it’s a shareware.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 18, 2020 10:02 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

You’re an angry, confused and controling person with a big mouth, I don’t like that combination, actually find it a nuisance.

Binra
Binra
Nov 18, 2020 11:32 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Hilarious!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 18, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  Binra

Ok I see progress

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 12:16 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

it’s the fakeness of the chap that’s problematic….
his grandiose, whiny, nebulous preachings sound like a philosohy grad on his return from goa lecturing the barmaid at the wetherspoons.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 18, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  dr death

a philosopher with a taste for cheap cider and vegan crisps then..explains much..

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 18, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  dr death

… with evidence that even her already knows

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 12:07 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

this entity is an AI masquerading as a swami

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 18, 2020 1:30 PM
Reply to  dr death

lol i like that..it’s far more diplomatic and far less obscene than what i was going to suggest.. 😉

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 18, 2020 1:39 PM
Reply to  dr death

Some people are just as beta version as AI, but unfortunately with emotions that are just as glitched

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 4:25 PM

Back in medieval times, the folk believed in Satan and witchcraft. It wouldn’t have taken much to start off a panic about a demonic force threatening a community and plenty of people would be willing to vouch for sinister sightings. All of this could go on till the local priest decided it was alright to return to normal. Since he was in direct communion with God, he was the one with the credentials to determine when things were safe again. Now we have this: https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-54949799?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16055414717709&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fhealth-54949799 “Covid-19: Normal life back next winter, says vaccine creator The impact of a new Covid vaccine will kick in significantly over summer and life should be back to normal by next winter, one of its creators has said.” Prof Ugur Sahin, BioNTech co-founder, says, “I’m very confident that transmission between people will be reduced by such a highly effective vaccine – maybe not 90% but… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Nov 16, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Here’s an article from Global Research.ca about COVID vaccines which features BioNTech.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-not-said-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine/5729461

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 3:46 PM

POLICE RELATIONS WITH PUBLIC UTTERLY DESTROYED

Gym owner told to close for not enforcing masks. Locks business. Pauses outside. Arrested for not walking away fast enough. Agrees to be arrested. Forced to ground. Sat on by several policemen who twist his head to the side.

Wife calmly advises husband to comply to avoid being tasered or gassed. Multiple police cars arrive. She is told to back away. Does so repeatedly. Then she too is seized. Policemen shriek and scream at her.

UK policing 2020.

Essex gym owner closes gym — still arrested and brutalized

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 16, 2020 3:57 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

To paraphrase Billy Connolly: Anyone who expresses a desire to become a police officer should be barred for life from becoming one.

Wankers.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 8:04 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

I concur..let’s see how their bosses fail to address this..scum

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 16, 2020 8:36 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Scum is exactly what they are. I’ve always loathed them. What kind of inadequacy leads someone to feel the need to have that kind of power over other people? They are but hired goons. Cowardly, too.

But they know that their bosses will always cover for them.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Nov 16, 2020 8:49 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Hi Gwyn,

Dal yn iawn ar gyfer yfory?

🙂

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 16, 2020 8:52 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Yndw! Dwi’n edrych ymlaen! ;o)

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:33 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

EEEK!
They’ve arrived…!!!
Run away !
HIDE !

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 17, 2020 5:23 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I knew I could hear rustling and giggling coming from those bushes…

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 9:51 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

The worst of it is that these shitbags will be chomping at the bit to be tomorrow’s ‘urban troops’. ; the ‘covid force’. To the left we have the armed troops who will kill and maim blindly for their country and the gangsters that pay them. They’re uniformed gangsters with the law backing them up. Physically fit and programmed but generally brain dead like robots. To the right we have the police; thigs who weren’t liked at school and still aren’t out there. They only like each other. They’re racist and vicious and carry more arms than the Nazi stormtroopers. If you give an idiot a gun he will always be itching to use it. The same goes for pepper spray and tasers. The vacancy is between the two. That’s the vast is waiting to be filled by the government’s Martial Law Robots. We’ve been primed like cattle to stand;… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 16, 2020 10:35 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Yeah, that combination of arrogance, stupidity and being armed is a toxic one. These people can’t handle pressure, which just makes things even worse. A panicky copper/squaddie with a gun in his hand is a disaster waiting to happen.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:15 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

But is he as dangerous as a criminal with a gun or machete in his hand?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:14 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

The idea that police don’t prevent crime or protect citizens can be tested by living in lawless or pre-modern societies, where enforcing justice takes more primitive forms. Note that this truth in no way condones cases like this.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Police officers also know what will happen if they don’t obey the police authorities who have such power over them.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

I’ve still always had a slight hankering to work in the research and forensics department, but that’s probably because I’ve watched too much ‘Vera’ and ‘Barnaby’…

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:07 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Police forces around the world aren’t equally bad/good. For a different opinion on the value of policing, try living in a society where law and order is never enforced. But I agree that the UK police increasingly resemble the goon squads of fascist and communist dictatorships.

JoeC
JoeC
Nov 16, 2020 5:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Horrific.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 8:03 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

They have always been a force comprised of semi literate scum. Now they have been given carte blanche to parade it along with their arrogance. They’re beneath contempt. Shaven headed school bullies who deserve to be taken to one side by those they daren’t tackle one on one. Then they’d understand what real power feels like when you’re it’s victim. How do these low life rats get away with it once their faces are seen on the net or in papers. They can’t be in uniform and at the station 24 / 7.

paul
paul
Nov 16, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Anyone who has been in the army or police knows that they are dysfunctional organisations with poor to abysmal leadership and chaotic basic administration, riven by internal politics and careerist faction feuding.

Most of the rank and file just want a quiet life, quickly becoming accustomed to completely pointless, often counter productive activity, shrugging their shoulders, shaking their heads, and going home to drink their beer. They will generally carry out any task, no matter how nonsensical, provided it is not actually clearly illegal. The priority is to find somewhere to have a fag and get off on time. That’s about it.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 16, 2020 11:44 PM
Reply to  paul

where i live, if you need the police for an emergency you have to hope you’re near a chinese takeaway..

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  paul

just like everyone else then.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:17 PM
Reply to  paul

They have mortgages and families to feed too, which helps them toe the new line.

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 12:35 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

a most interesting charcteristic of the ‘farce’ is the limited robotic diction they all employ when dealing with the ‘public’. even funnier when expanded for tv.

plod people.

paul
paul
Nov 18, 2020 4:50 PM
Reply to  dr death

They have to make sure they all sing from the Globo Homo Hymn Sheet in the prescribed manner. Woe betide anyone who tells a gay joke or fails to fall in at the front of the Big Gay Pride Parade while banging on a big bass drum. Or who fails to take a knee or orders a black coffee. Today’s bright modern police force has to get its priorities right.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:16 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

And yet police heroes who risk their lives to save citizens do exist.

paul
paul
Nov 16, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Hi-yo, Silver, Away!
They had the cavalry there as well.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:38 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Wanna bet these are not real policemen?

Howard
Howard
Nov 16, 2020 3:32 PM

Anything is better than “science.” And, yes, “science” must be forevermore encased in quotations because whatever it might have once been, it has been reduced to just another tool of the ruling class.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:19 PM
Reply to  Howard

Science is DEAD since at least one scoundrel sold the germ theory and the moron herd accepted that THEORY as being a FACT.

Nowadays “science” is just a BIG PROFIT MACHINE… nothing else.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:36 PM
Reply to  Howard

Oh I reckon we can still do our own good science with integrity at home…
The Internet continues to overflow with information, and it’s simply up to us to sort it out.
A good brain and decent character can do it.

Dianthus
Dianthus
Nov 16, 2020 3:31 PM
Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:20 PM
Reply to  Dianthus

That australian dude… awesome.

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 16, 2020 3:18 PM

USSA is a murderous, lying psychopath predator that humanity can no longer afford to indulge. I for one hope to see it rupture and break into a thousand pieces. Hopefully “a coalition of the willing” can then be organized to defang the evil beast of its sickening murder machine of nuclear weapons and criminal oligarch owned Pentacon psychos that USSANS call their military. The failed entity should then be occupied by peace keepers to ensure some minimal form of civility of which USSANS are sorley lacking at home not to mention their penchant for vicious, wanton genocide everywhere the buzzard has ever landed. If the Germans needed to be bled dry back in the day and occupied by buzzard goons to this very day; then tell me what price must USSA be forced to pay for the evil that this cabal of anglozionazi filth has unleashed without respite on the… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn
Nov 16, 2020 4:01 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Well said! There’s a Hopi prophecy which states that they will ”see America come and go.”

Good riddance to the USA, whose effect on the world you have described very accurately.

paul
paul
Nov 17, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

Anyone who complains about that, just remember 500,000 Iraqi kids under 5 murdered by US economic terrorism from 1991-2003.
Over the past 70 years, the Exceptional Folk have rampaged across the planet like Nazi Germany on steroids, butchering, starving, & immiserating hundreds of millions.
Their crimes are without parallel in all of human history.
If every American alive today were taken out and hanged, drawn and quartered once a day for the next 50 years, that would not be anywhere near adequate payback for all their shitfuckery.
59 million refugees since 2000.
Economic terrorism that has cost every Cuban man, woman and child $100,000. Right now, they are planning further genocidal terror against Iran, Syria, Venezuela, and half of humanity.
F**k America.
F**k Americans.
Every last one of the c**ts.
They can burn in hell.
Let God sort them out.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Nov 17, 2020 1:11 AM
Reply to  paul

So you hate ALL Americans and want them ALL to burn in hell; even the children, even the infants, even those who have spent their lives saving lives and helping others and working for peace and justice – who may have sacrificed and risked far more than you ever have to oppose the warmongers and exploiters.

And you think – what? It makes you real, a no-nonsense honest guy who says what everyone’s thinking?

No, it makes you exactly the same kind of psychopathic antihuman as those you claim to oppose. Most people with basic moral sense find the idea of mass murder repugnant. It’s only moral degenerates like you and Dick Cheney who don’t have a problem with it.

Don’t post this cheap hate speech here any more please.

paul
paul
Nov 17, 2020 6:02 PM

They will only ever stop butchering, starving and immiserating hundreds of millions of people when they experience for themselves the misery they have inflicted on so many for so long.
Anything else is a pipe dream.
The evil that is America has to be burnt out at source or there will never be anything but murder and mayhem in the world. Millions of dead children cry out for justice from beyond the grave.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  paul

You need to be specific about ‘they’. Otherwise, what distinguishes your claims about evil Americans from Hitler’s approach to the evil Jewish nation?

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 17, 2020 9:49 AM
Reply to  paul

Look at the group who controls America. It’s not ordinary Americans. It’s a particular group with a shared ideology.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:27 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Do you see that group as supporting Trump and his idea that American presidents are elected to put the interests of American people and workers first? They don’t seem very pleased about him ending endless wars rather than starting them.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 18, 2020 3:32 PM

That group hates Trump precisely because he’s a threat to their nefarious activities, subversion and war mongering. They consider ordinary Americans who arent in their group as cattle, like they do everyone else. This is a fact.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:22 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Don’t forget getting rid of ‘the USA’ involves eradicating about 270m innocent working Americans. Like you and me, they never oppressed or caused harm to anyone.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 6:07 PM
Reply to  Martillo

You are falling into the twilight zone of blame.

Do you blame Italians for the Mafia?,

Do you blame the Londoners of the City of London for rampant aggressive capitalism to pay for the bullyboy US?

Do you know who the Illuminati are?

Freemasonry is the problem paid for by the owners of the financial system, the Illuminati.

Howard
Howard
Nov 16, 2020 10:12 PM

Americans, encased in our comfortable haze of illusions, are, I’m sorry to say, every bit as much to blame for what the US has wrought throughout the world as those who actually perpetrate the horrors.

Just ask Linda Ronstadt how thoughtful Las Vegas audiences can be after she had the nerve to recommend Michael Moore’s extremely tepid “Fahrenheit 911.” Or the Dixie Chicks after they publicly criticized George W Bush for invading Iraq.

Americans DO NOT want to hear anything but how wonderful they and their country are; and will punish anyone who tries to tell them.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Nov 17, 2020 1:25 AM
Reply to  Howard

Americans DO NOT want to hear anything but how wonderful they and their country are; and will punish anyone who tries to tell them.

Reductionist stereotyping is always wrong. You obviously know that all Americans don’t think that way. Don’t do such disservice to your intelligence and stop talking like a cheap bigot.

paul
paul
Nov 17, 2020 6:11 PM

That must be a great comfort to all those cheap bigots in scores of countries who have had to watch their families destroyed and their children starving in front of them.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:33 PM
Reply to  paul

The idea that evil only comes from those with a US passport is obviously deranged, even evil.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 17, 2020 7:30 AM
Reply to  Howard

The Trump support gains strength from the information disclosed through the Q postings.

The information is by and large not complementary to the status quo represented by Clinton/Obama/Biden axis.

The validation will come after Trumps next administration begins to unseal the 170,000 sealed indictments that is hanging like a sword of Damocles over the assorted Satanists, Paedophiles and Corrupters of the Political process.

It is unclear at the moment just how corrupted the election is, but the corruption will translate into a landslide victory for Trump.

Are Trump supporters part of the Americana that you speak off?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:32 PM
Reply to  Howard

What bigoted, baseless slanders about an entire people. Hitler spread similar views about the evil Jewish nation.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Don’t be too disappointed when you realize your “peace keepers” are composed of the exact small part of America that you hate so much, MINUS the patriots and the advocates of freedom

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:24 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Without the majority of Americans, the rest of the world will just be picked up by “Uber Eats”

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Watch out for communist China too. It does have all those spanking new nukes, supremacist dreams, and hundreds of concentration camps.

paul
paul
Nov 18, 2020 5:19 PM

It is Nobel Peace Prize Obomber and the Orange Faggot Incumbent who are spending an extra $2,000 billion on extra “spanking new nukes.” Not the Chinks. They have a minimal force of 250 warheads to deter the genocidal shitfuckery of your Exceptional chums, who are in the Concentration Camp Business in a big way.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:37 PM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Even if he did, getting a court to consider such evidence will be hugely difficult.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 18, 2020 8:02 PM

one step at a time – and never surrender to diabolism.

ame
ame
Nov 16, 2020 1:51 PM

Boris kamla Johnson 22.00pm Sunday 15 November (new moon in Scorpio )
Contact and trace contacted him to say he’s been in contact with someone who had bs19

Monday 16 November still in the new moon Scorpio period ITS a miracle
Moderna says early data shows its vaccine is nearly 95% effective in preventing COVID-19 On Monday, US biotechnology company Moderna announced that its experimental vaccine is 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19, based on early data from a late-stage clinical trial.

ame
ame
Nov 16, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  ame

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HM Government
HM Government
Nov 16, 2020 3:04 PM
Reply to  ame
George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 1:16 PM

Another episode of “Walking Dead” brought to you by the WSWS:   https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/16/covi-n16.html   “A video aired on Channel 8ABC Tulsa, produced by INTEGRIS Health, provides a harrowing behind-the-scenes look at an ICU where health care workers are treating COVID patients. Dr. David Chansolme, the medical director of infection prevention, says while a nurse is managing 10 intravenous pumps, “This is what we call the ICU thicket. Look at how many pumps [there are]. This is one patient. It takes a NASA engineering degree to be able to run all of these lines on one single patient.””   Here is the video linked to:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUb4p9POjxE   Well – are you in a state of trauma? No. Nice guide round the hospital and display of the fancy gizmos. Note scene of health workers just kinda standing around. Also note – only one COVID sufferer who doesn’t seem to be doing that… Read more »

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 3:23 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I thought for a while about what comment I should make to preface this video, but mere words just don’t seem adequate to the situation, anymore.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Ah so Chomsky has traced the root of COVID. It’s Trump! It’s all Trump! And there was that kindly Obama saving the planet till Trumpety came in and undid all the saintly work. And of course NOW it’s OK for the MSM to carve up neoliberalism because we all know the MSM had a Scrooge transformation and now CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE WHOLE WORLD! But what’s this?: “There were simulations run of a pandemic as late as October 2019 warning of what would happen. No attention. Trump administration isn’t interested. So, when the epidemic finally hit, the United States was singularly unprepared. After that comes a series of grotesque inactions and actions. For a couple of months, Trump refused to admit that it was happening.” Yup Trump didn’t heed the warning. And you know what happens to those who go against the Corleones! Speaking of which, I would have had… Read more »

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 7:24 PM
Reply to  George Mc

you don’t sponsor something like Operation MK-CHOMSKY for thirty years, and then just let it stick with linguistics.

no, you carefully nurture and promote it, in anticipation of the happy day when you can finally cash it in for the big payoff.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191115222026/https://lorenzoae.wordpress.com/2019/03/07/noam-chomsky-and-the-compatible-left-part-iv/

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Second that, and a couple people here should also stick with linguistics for fuck’s sake

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 17, 2020 12:58 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Actually let me retract myself again… Linguistics is, as I got it in high school in one or two weeks courses, ( and I said, ok that’s brilliant let’s go on with my life), is the science of ‘achieving to be understood. Now how can you be understood when you keep putting people to sleep. So he’s not even any use there either.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

To blame communist China and its globalist friends and lackeys for covid and global pandemic would mean admitting that all evil does not only originate from the US and western capitalism. Like a million other leftist/neo-communist ‘intellectuals’, Chomsky has spent his life believing and promoting the second thesis. He can’t abandon his religion now, no matter how many Muslims and Tibetans people their organs removed and sold in Chinese concentration camps.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 16, 2020 9:23 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Why share such piece of garbage?! Two old farts spewing propaganda…

Ort
Ort
Nov 16, 2020 10:02 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

I became increasingly exasperated with Chomsky after his “Nothing to see here, move along” response to the events of September 11, 2001.

As bad, or worse, was (is) his “lesser-evil” electoral-politics pontifications, which boil down to the lesser-evil dogma of voting for the Democrat in “this crucial election”– which evidently has been every election this century.

Yes, I know that Chomsky qualifies this advice with nominally more sophisticated and radical pronouncements about the relative insignificance of electoral politics in working for real sociopolitical change. But his bottom line was/is always, “This time around, vote blue.”

Anyway, nowadays I’m sorry he’s still around. I feel a bit conflicted in wishing he weren’t, but there it is.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 17, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Ort

A complete and utter fraud. No ‘intellectual’ could discuss American hegemony without discussing the JQ. Tells you all you need to know.

paul
paul
Nov 17, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  THX-1154

That is just Faux Left controlled opposition, like Counterpunch.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:08 AM
Reply to  paul

No “just” about it. Chom has a large following. This is serious excrement.
Hard to say whether he actually believes it himself, since the ol’ body is beginning to crumble, and there’s no reason to suspect the brain is immune to Crumble19…

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 3:43 AM
Reply to  THX-1154

At least Chomsky could deliver exciting speeches in the old days.
He is now certifiably in orbit around some other planet…
Thanks, Noam. It’s been fun.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 4:03 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Although he clearly has no inkling of the ghastliness and wrongness of what he is saying, he certainly did get this right:

“At every level, we are racing madly towards total catastrophe under the leadership of sociopathic fanatics; it’s as if some evil demon decided to take over the human species and drive them to self destruction”…

… only he got seriously confused about the demon’s name, address and political affiliation…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 16, 2020 1:09 PM

Top US cybersecurity official reportedly says he expects to be fired. Christopher Krebs leads the agency that secures voting technology, which has been pushing back on misinformation about the election. http://web.archive.org/web/20201112211554/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/12/christopher-krebs-us-cybersecurity-official-election-misinformation-expects-fired Guardian staff and agency Thu 12 Nov 2020 15.33 EST Top US cybersecurity official Christopher Krebs has told associates he expects to be fired by the White House, according to three sources familiar with the matter. Krebs is the government’s point person on securing voting technology and is widely respected among local election officials. His agency has also been aggressively pushing back on rumors that something went wrong with the 2020 election, as Donald Trump, who refuses to concede to the president-elect, Joe Biden, contests. Krebs, who heads the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa), did not return messages from the Reuters news agency seeking comment. And the Cisa and the White House declined comment.… Read more »

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:51 PM

So do you concur with Krebs that this was the ‘most secure election in US history’? Trump says it was a coup. I guess looking at the mountains of evidence prior to judgement is a good idea. Democrat lackey, careerist bureaucrat and deep stater Krebs clearly didn’t.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 18, 2020 5:10 PM

I was just flagging it up; and I think he’s gone now. Hopefully, he’ll be on a flight to Gitmo pretty soon!

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 16, 2020 12:54 PM

Looks like the USA (and several other countries including Canada) are being positioned to get the Moderna vaccine. Surprise, surprise that it’s another mRNA vaccine. Introducing that technology is clearly a major part of the on-going agenda.

Announcing this on 15/11 is another 9/11 event, as was the UK announcement on Nov 9th. One plus five equals six and then invert it (“if six turned out to be nine…. “).

ame
ame
Nov 16, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

In metaphysics November is the ninth month it now become mainstream knowledge even though they say it the 11th it kind of isnt 
The true beginning of the year is March when the sun is entering the spring constellation

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 12:41 PM

“The time has come for homo sapiens to stand up and start becoming human again. This scare has led man to lose reason as he follows the pied piper’s call and we are being led to the downfall of civilization. Stand up, take those masks off your face, grasp each other’s hands again — no more social distancing, what utter nonsense because of a virus that has been with us since the beginning of mankind — and start singing. The sound of the human voice is the only thing which is going to halt this pied piper’s madness.”
— Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi

Are We Being Told the Truth About COVID-19?, Nov, 11, 2020 | Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi is a Thai-German specialist in microbiology and co-author of Corona, False Alarm.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 1:45 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi (notes from interview Nov 11, 2020) When someone tests positive we say they tested positive for Covid-19 but that is the disease, not the virus, which is Sars-CoV-2. That’s the first problem. Secondly, it was termed new, when neither the disease nor the virus is new because coronaviruses have been with us forever. These viruses co-exist with us. Every few months they mutate so that my immune system will accept them, otherwise they would be recognized on the second visit and be shut out. So it is completely normal that the most successful viruses in the world, which keep the host alive, which don’t want to kill us, change a little all the time. When the number of cases falls below a certain level, you must stop testing. Because if you keep testing people who are not infected, you are going to get more false positives than… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

If I was a “Conshprirashy Sheorisht” I would wonder: is the mRNA vaccine is intended to weaken the immunity response? Because that is clearly a risk. Vaccine trials suggest it affects quite a few people’s immune systems negatively. So if another virulent disease were to come along in the near future, those people weakened by the vaccine would be very vulnerable to a different virus. (see Francis Boyle). If Covid were a deadly threat the risk might be worth it. That does not seem to be the case. Even if not deliberate conshpirashy — Let’s use Bill Gates’ own logic: Pandemics are the greatest threat facing humanity, or the second after “climate” — according to Gates himself. Why would you mess with the immune system of hundreds of millions of people? The proposal from Bill and Melinda is to give it to healthcare workers and the elderly first. Again, examine… Read more »

Myall
Myall
Nov 16, 2020 11:49 AM

“a country where loneliness is widespread .. Americans prefer myths that induce them to act out of habit so they can lose themselves in the group.”

The author here might be breaking the neo-convention of not describing people who live alone in terms other than ‘Independent’, ‘Confident’ and ‘Emotionally Intelligent’ …

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 10:52 AM

You will be pleased to hear that your commender in chief is providing such excellent guidance on the requisite behaviour:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54956076

“It doesn’t matter that we were all doing social distancing, it doesn’t matter that I’m fit as a butcher’s dog, feel great. And actually, it doesn’t matter that I’ve had the disease and I’m bursting with antibodies. We’ve got to interrupt the spread of the disease and one of the ways we can do that now is by self-isolating for 14 days when contacted by Test and Trace.”

So, things that DON’T matter:

  • doing social distancing
  • being as fit as a butcher’s dog
  • feeling great
  • having had the desease and bursting with antibodies

You must still follow the rules for track and trace and you should still be scared shitless!

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 2:38 PM
Reply to  George Mc

These are people whose brains don’t work, and who like having brains that don’t work.
People to be avoided at all costs – and certainly not allowed to become Prime Ministers.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 18, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Comrade Carrie appears to control Boris’s brain. Greens won 2.7% of the popular vote, but she found a better way to get her fantasy policies adopted than respecting what the stupid plebs want.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 16, 2020 3:22 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Being as fit as a butchers dog doesn’t make any sense.
He’s got the Biden dementia going on

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 7:00 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

They have to be fitter than the chocolate maker’s dog though

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 6:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I commute for 3 hrs a day for work, at rush hour in a total of 6 busses full packed with the masked herd… Mine lets my nose uncovered… 6 months of this… got tested for work last week.. tested NEGATIVE… there you go with your highly contagious deadly disease

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 10:27 AM

Assuming that the deep state doesn’t favour Biden, or pretending that the election wasn’t fixed in favour of the Democrats, is astonishingly misinformed. Also, should we defend the principle of democracy or not? Got a better option?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 16, 2020 8:13 AM

Just before the election, I said that the main targets include the CIA, FBI, etc. — https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-were-fixing-to-overturn-the-election-results-with-new-evidence-n2580118 Was Election Software Rigged? Sidney Powell Lays Out the Trump Team’s Findings. Nov 15, 2020 According to Powell, the Trump campaign has enough evidence to launch a serious criminal investigation. “We’re fixing to overturn the election results in multiple states and President Trump won by not just hundreds of thousands of votes but my millions of votes that were shifted by this software that was designed expressly for that purpose,” Powell explained. “We have sworn witness testimony about why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections.” According to Powell, the witness that the Trump team has is someone who has seen elections rigged in other countries. Those same tactics and software were allegedly deployed to the United States. “They did this on purpose. It was calculated. They’ve done it before,”… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 16, 2020 2:30 PM

Hello Lost in a dark wood: Thanks for posting this interview. Notice how Ms Bartiromo is pressuring Ms Powell to disclose sensitive legal information throughout the presentation? This is one of the main reasons “investigative” journalism has been reduced to Facebook and Twitter exercises in finger pointing. I guess a juicy news “scoop” sells more advertising…

I repeatedly posted comment regarding fraudulent software used in early Die Bold voting machines before this “election” took place. Numerous web sites refused to publish the material…

Pajays
Pajays
Nov 16, 2020 4:23 PM

Either way, you’re still going to get vaxxed. The WEF agenda marches on. All this stolen election charade is distraction for the Operation Warp Speed rollout, the next step in the Great Reset, the Fourth Industrial Revolution, where man and machine are hybridized, starting with “vaccines” that modify your own genetic makeup and cause you to become attached to the “cloud” “vaccine” by “vaccine,” like the Windows updates. Moderna = “Modify” your “RNA.”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 16, 2020 5:34 PM

Did US military and law enforcement raid a CIA facility in Germany? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/unraveling-latest-deep-state-coup/ Unraveling the Latest Deep State Coup By Larry Johnson Nov 16, 2020 I am reliably informed that a unit under the command of USEUCOM (i.e., United States European Command) did in fact conduct an operation to take control of computer servers. But these servers belong to the CIA, not Dominion or Sctyl. The U.S. military has full authority to do this because any CIA activity in the European theater is being conducted using military cover. In other words, CIA officers would be identified to the German government (and anyone else asking) as military employees or consultants. Such an operation would have been carried out with U.S. law enforcement present to take custody of the evidence. That means that the evidence will be under the control of the Department of Justice through US Attorneys and can be used… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Nov 16, 2020 7:15 AM

The Fight is Fixed.

The rules of the Fight are Fixed

The First Rule of the Fixed Fight is

….

Samuel? Sophie? Anyone?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 2:19 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

You’re the first to mention “rules”. So why don’t you tell us?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 7:05 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

I get it… better laugh… it comes down to tge rules of engagement… if it is really getting done

Victor
Victor
Nov 16, 2020 7:04 AM

This is not just America. It is global. the decades old drive to convert the world’s governments to “democracy” is in fact a drive to place the elite in total control of the populations. “Democracy” is little more than another word for “rule by money” – it can be nothing else. The entire world is falling under the delusion that “each vote counts”.

The world is utterly corrupt, ruled almost exclusively by monied interests. Jesus said: “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”

Which is your choice?

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 10:29 AM
Reply to  Victor

Are voters really as corrupt as those they vote for?

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 12:44 PM

No, just mis-informed

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 1:11 PM

Misinformed by the politicians and the MSM, presumably. So if establishment and career politicians are the enemies of the people, then anti-politicians and populist outsiders who want to drain the swamp deserve our fullest support.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 4:08 PM

That would depend on many things.

Whoever comes to the fore would need to identify the real culprits….

The Freemason Water carriers for the Illuminati Satanists. If that is not in their manifesto they are suspect and should go to jail.

Anyone who wants to serve in government should know this Zionist history.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 2:41 PM

Misinformed, and even if they do their own homework and discover what’s really going on, they are left in no doubt that there is nothing at all they can do about it.
I am not corrupt just because I don’t live in London and can’t personally take a bunch of mates into the Houses of Parliament and physically remove Johnson and the rest from their offices to await trial.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  wardropper

That presupposes that actions before Her Majesties Court and Tribunal Service are capable of delivering an impartial verdict.

Elizabeth Windsor is the Patron of World Wide Freemasonry, I think that would be a conflict of interest.

Dissolve the monarchy and institute new lawful courts as opposed to the legal bullshit ones currently in operation.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 3:38 AM

Quite, but, as I said, Elizabeth knows that we are very unlikely to do any such thing – if she cares any more.
She might even be thinking of what a wasted life her initially promising career turned out to be…

For the record, I did not specify a conventional trial…

Pajays
Pajays
Nov 16, 2020 4:24 PM

Or another word might be deceived.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 5:48 PM
Reply to  Pajays

Deliberate mis-information is deception by another means.

Propaganda is rife at the BBC and all MSM outlets.

Trump has won the election but fake news prevails at the moment.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Nov 16, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  Victor

You cannot serve both God and money.”Which is your choice?

Why is it, whenever anyone asks me to choose between two options, both are virtually always disagreeable? I don’t want any master. I know that kind of thing floats some people’s boat, but not mine.

I’m assuming that you don’t consider organised religion as just an older form of keeping the “elite in total control of the populations”

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 16, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  Geoff S

Geoff S: Exactly. I don’t understand the mommy/daddy psychology, other than my belief that the average person is unconsciously refusing to grow up and become their own authority.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 2:59 PM
Reply to  Geoff S

Organized religion is certainly a big spanner in the works when it comes to developing a rational outlook on the world – even one which takes spiritual matters seriously as a natural part of life.

The Catholic Church is particularly ‘organized’, so its humiliating defeat in this debate is really something of a clincher:
https://youtu.be/JZRcYaAYWg4

The interesting audience scores at the very end, along with their changes of mind, say it all.

That said, my view is that if you take the ‘organized’ out of religion, you are left with something personal and real – but of course you have to pay attention to other interests and fashions which might wish to push you into despair and nihilism.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I should add that religion is also something which needs to be studied properly. A dismissive wave of the hand, based upon some sort of gut feeling, completely evades the important realities of self-consciousness which are involved, as well as the true nature of a human being.

Not for everyone, of course. Too much work.

But, back to the topic of the election, it really won’t do to have today’s Americans (and Brits) relying upon a vague feeling that ‘God is on our side’, without doing anything at all with their lives which would encourage even a fictitious god to side with them.
Our politicians encourage this vague feeling, but the people never get any satisfaction from it. That alone shows the political fakery and cynicism at work.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 4:15 PM
Reply to  Geoff S

Perhaps you should think about serving the people.

Pajays
Pajays
Nov 16, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Geoff S

Following organized religion, no matter which one, will almost certainly NOT set you free. But following God as he intended DOES set you free. In the Edenic Garden two trees in its center are singled out: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and the tree of life. Mankind chose and still chooses the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which is marked by rules and laws. But the tree of life is marked by the things that produce, of all things, real life, real freedom. That comes about by knowing God. Not just knowing about God, but knowing Him as a good loving father who genuinely cares for the well-being of his children.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 6:28 AM

“However, many types of vaccine are likely to be needed to end the pandemic” It is often suggested that the vaccine for this non-existent disease will contain some shite that will eventually kill people, sterilize them, alter their genetic makeup, and so on, all of which is possible, but let’s say that it doesn’t. The vaccine, or the first in a series of vaccines for this one will establish a precedent, will be another step toward harnessing humans to the sickness industry. I remember some f-head from the WHO mention that something along the lines that “we’ve created a vaccine-dependent population”. No shit! The occidental population today is just about completely dependent on the sickness industry. To begin with, humans are just about unable to bear offspring without a sickcare attendant masking himself as a doctor. In many jurisdictions it might even be illegal for humans to bear their kids… Read more »

Sezz
Sezz
Nov 16, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  Jacques

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your contribution 🙂 So nice to hear someone calling a spade a spade…

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 12:55 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Organic food, exercise and nationwide vitamin D supplementation at 2000 IUD per day during the winter months, would resolve most common ailments.

It is now glaringly obvious that Sars-2 aka Covid-19 is a manmade plandemic to usher in the Great Reset.

Anyone who promotes the government line will fall under suspicion and be thrown to the wolves when the people will no longer be bullied into submission by the Government.

The truth is out there look to the US.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Nov 16, 2020 4:43 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The goal is a permanent Health Dictatorship under which all UN Agenda 2030 goals will be forced. The days of asking, guilt tripping, feedback and creative science will be over. You will comply at first because you think it’s a global health emergency or you will comply at last because you will be broke and starving. This is why lockdowns were key. Through obfuscation, the promise of 2wks only & the pure terror of adrenaline populations were convinced to accept the utter insanity of quarantine of healthy people. They agreed to self incarcerate and self unemploy. Now it’s a desperate race to the digital lockdown finish line of “health” documentation, to make all life contingent upon “health” compliance. They’re hoping the median masses will not wake up before they have to scan their phones for food. By then it will be just you and the police in the grocery store… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 6:25 AM

When one is stuck at home, in lockdown, and you avoid MSM News like the plague; you don’t really notice the covid propaganda except when you’re out shopping and enter a supermarket or shop.
Been back at work just over 2 weeks now, and the propaganda is everywhere, especially on the train system. Both on the platform, and on the train itself, its like Orwell’s 2 minutes of hate!
I’m grateful that at least I know why it’s being being pumped out relentlessly, and about the scamdemic and the Great Reset and all the other nasties.
Met yet another covid sceptic today, and another very positive, maskless chat.
Turns out we’re in a couple of the same groups.

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 6:55 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yeah except I feel like I’m going more mad now than I did when this whole thing started. The walls feel like they’re closing in. I’d almost rather believe in the full plague-ness of the virus than feel the vague, suffocating fear of the Orwellian situation that surrounds us. Is it possible that all we who frequent these pages are just wrong, and there is no great reset, no larger plan, and that our governments have just become increasingly careful in the face of what they perhaps *know* is a biological weapon? I’ve come to ponder this as I stare at the ceilings, trying to fall asleep at nighttime; undoubtedly there were a bunch of international protocols in place already for if and when a biological weapon was released, and Corona has triggered all of those protocols? I know it doesn’t explain anything, but I’m desperate to find some hope… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 7:11 AM
Reply to  Julia

This has crossed my mind as well. The fact that governments know that this alleged virus is somehow more dangerous that it evidently appears to be would explain why the whole world is acting in sync. Still, it doesn’t make sense. Even if that were the case and what is happening were legit, what would be the strategy? What are we waiting for? Antidote a.k.a. vaccine? Traditional vaccine only stimulates immune response, if the process works at all – who knows if vaccination really works the way it is purported, there is a lot of evidence that it doesn’t. So, since most people appear to get over this alleged COVID-19 thanks to their own immune system unaided, what’s the point? The RNA vaccine will alter the human genome and we’re back to square one. Moreover, and more importantly, even is some disaster happened, locking everybody up and fucking up the… Read more »

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 7:20 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Sadly (for me), I have to agree with all of your points. Particularly about the lack of sense in destroying the economies and livelihoods of so many just at the juncture when you’d need as many healthy, strong, and optimistic people as possible.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 7:30 AM
Reply to  Julia

Add to it the fact that practically nothing has been made since the spring to encourage people to boost their health, through exercise, proper nutrition, vitamins, etc. How come the government is not distributing free vitamin C and other supplements? Likewise, if a true pandemic struck, it would be important to keep spirits high, to encourage people to have faith that we can get over it. Any good news would have to be stressed, people motivated. Once again, the m-effers are doing the exact opposite. The level of scaremongering, constant supply of bad news, and so on is out of this world. Any way you slice it, the official narrative doesn’t make sense. Not even assuming that politicians and government officials are totally stupid – they probably are, but all of them can’t be that stupid. This is a very cleverly devised revolution – and yes, lots of people believe… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 9:49 AM
Reply to  Jacques

The scare tactics by the MSM have been the single biggest giveaway in this whole farce. And this is why I cannot understand these formerly intelligent Left-wing sites which have just swallowed the bull without further ado. Indeed not only do they swallow but they’re incredibly belligerent about the deadly pandemic and get ferociously snooty about any doubters. The covid crap has effectively neutered all political dissent.

Why can’t these Left sites understand that the MSM is the voice of the ruling class? It’s a voice that comes from higher up than all those cartoon political clowns – whose true job is to get pelted with rotten fruit before their next replacements arrive for further pelting. And when the MSM drone on about the deadly plague that’s what the ruling class want us all to believe. The lockdowns are therefore not some kin of progressive action move. Quite the reverse.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 10:31 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Try Breitbart.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 16, 2020 11:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s a bit of conundrum at first to try and solve the mystery of why so called left wing sites like the Canary, Skwawkbox, Caitlin, MOA, Saker, WSP etc are not vehemently attacking the propaganda of the Scamdemic which is as plain as wart on the end of someone’s nose. They seem to fall broadly into two categories either they openly support the Scamdemic narrative and keep ratcheting up the hysteria of the MSM and call for more lockdowns or they most wilfully ignore it as in the case of the Saker. Therefore, it seems to me that they are either being coerced to support the Scamdemic narrative because of a financial lever as in the case with Skwawkbox whose CEO has a business reliant on the NHS or they are more concerned with the minutia of the political struggle between eg Corbyn against Starmer plus the Tories who in… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 12:42 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Moreover, the left/right dichotomy doesn’t even make sense in theoretical terms. Not only it’s meaningless per se – it can mean just about anything – but if you dissect the more specific dichotomies associated with left/right, it’s no less than imbecilic to fully reject one and fully embrace the other. For example, both collectivism and individualism are perfectly valid concepts that can peacefully coexist together. It’s like that with just about everything else. Like right and left, after all; there is the right and left side to everything.

This left- vs. right-wing game is nothing but a divide and conquer strategy. Especially the way it’s shoved down people’s throats these days when nobody dares scratch under the surface, let alone talk about the underlying issues.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 1:34 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Those voices being censored or cancelled on social media do not belong to the left. Big tech CEOs are ‘progressives’ and well-known Trump haters who oppose and try to silence all those criticising their globalist worldview. Patriotic American voters can still say and vote ‘America First’, and are fighting to keep their right to that opinion. By contrast, in more totalitarian Blighty, people saying ‘Britain First’ attract state monitoring, police harassment and even imprisonment as potential terrorists. By ‘Conservative’ governments, please note.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 4:06 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I always avoid thinking in terms of left/right now.
As you say, it doesn’t make sense any more, and what many people call ‘left’ today is really only neo-liberalism – a long way to the right of what used to be a genuine left.

That genuine left was a faction which was always closely allied with the working and living conditions of masses of ordinary people who worked long hours in conveyor-belt jobs for low wages.

That has been forgotten.

Tony Blair did more harm to ‘Labour’ than even Maggie Thatcher, because he pretended to be ‘left’, and was initially accepted as such. He was an infiltrator, pure and simple.

I even find it very easy to imagine Blair and Thatcher sitting at the same desk in a primary school, giggling in private agreement over the poor taste shown by a classmate in coming to school in threadbare rags…

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

You are right about those Left websites and their oddly schizophrenic attitude: either screaming about the imminent end time or just carrying on as if nothing at all out of the usual is happening. So Skwawkbox has suspect affiliations? That would explain the following: https://skwawkbox.org/2020/06/22/newsguard-renews-skwawkboxs-100-trustworthiness-rating/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/newsguardneocon-backed-fact-checker-plans-to-wage-war-on-independent-media/253687/ And I have had run-ins with a certain Leftist who displays all the worst features of Left self-blindness: infinitely condescending attitude to all covid skepticism, majestic presumption of his own superiority, gobbledegook defensiveness if ever challenged, endless capacity for generating those statistical accounts with all the requisite cross referencing without realising the most basic logical contradiction in the fact of MSM reporting – and when I point all this out, he just magically disappears. And what’s his biggest concern? Corbyn and Starmer! I mean – the entire edifice of Western civilisation is being re-jigged and all he cares about is which fucking puppet gets to… Read more »

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 16, 2020 12:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The other giveaway in the farce is the lack of any sort of debate or questioning on mainstream media. Any sign of an intelligent question about the ‘virus’ is met with ridicule and condemnation.

And the censorship on social media? Something strange going on here. That so many accept what they’re being told is the worst part of it.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  May Hem

I grew up in a Second World country, where media were state owned and spewed out an endless stream of complete bullshit. Safe for a handful of diehard communist idiots, nobody believed a word of they were saying. And people were able to read between the lines. We’re pretty much in an analogical situation now, in the First World (BTW, I was expecting that the First World wouldn’t outlive its nemesis by more than a few decades – the writing was on the wall. I would have never imagined that they’d pull something like this COVID crap). The media are completely full of shit. Just about everything that’s published is pushing some hidden agenda. Hopefully, people will realize that quickly and will turn to alternative sources. Then, again, one might ask the question how long before those get corrupted too. Also, censorship, including removal from the Internet, might make it… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 2:05 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I’d say the “communist” appellation is irrelevant. Censorship is just as effective – and indeed even more so – under capitalism.

Someone once noted the difference between East and West propaganda by saying that in the old Soviet Union hardly anything was permitted but every tiny thing was important whereas in the West everything is permitted and nothing is important.

State owned dictatorships have a massive disadvantage in that anyone with any brains living under them knows they are being bullshitted. But under capitalism, everyone thinks they are floating on wings of informational freedom without realising that the info is being managed by clever associative methods e.g. corralling the sensitive stuff into “loony fringe” sites while relaying the lies through sites normally trusted.

kevin
kevin
Nov 16, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It is trickier under capitalism, but I think the failure of the population to view the media as disseminators of propaganda stems from the lack of understanding that we are ruled by an organized oligarchy. Once that is understood, the role of oligarchic media becomes as obvious as the role of state broadcasters in communist regimes.

However, we do have state broadcasters like BBC and CBC that are very similar to Pravda and there is a direct comparison to be made.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 6:39 PM
Reply to  kevin

Gore Vidal once cited amazement of a visiting Soviet official who was interested in seeing the fabled free Western press and was astonished at the dreary uniformity of it. Vidal told him there were far more effective ways of controlling minds than totalitarianism – indeed there are effectively different forms of totalitarianism.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 1:44 PM
Reply to  May Hem

But as you rightly point out, those who object get ridiculed and condemned. Who wants a reputation like Trump’s, or dares speak out and hit back like he does?

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 1:57 PM
Reply to  May Hem

This is precisely the power of the covid story. Under the guise of “protecting public safety”, the MSM can “legitimately” ban all alternative views. And it is no longer a matter of “protecting national security” (which no-one believes in anyway). It is a matter of life and death for people in real time. If you were to appear on TV and breathe even a word of doubt, you would be ferociously condemned by the media – and even by a significant number in the population.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 16, 2020 7:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

They don’t receive their checks from the same guys anymore

dtoc
dtoc
Nov 16, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  Jacques

if CV was real, there would be thousands if not millions of biohazard containers set up across the world for ‘mask disposal’. Just like the hospitals.

kevin
kevin
Nov 16, 2020 5:27 PM
Reply to  dtoc

Very good point, that is another clear tell.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 3:50 PM
Reply to  Julia

Try not to be sad about it.
To me, it’s utterly shocking, (although one ought to be used to government malfeasance by now…) but it is also a call to action.
Something disgusting, sickening and evil has revealed itself in our world, and it has to be stopped.
Jacques’s last paragraph above is particularly important when considering how to make sense of all this:
Nobody can. While the media and ‘the authorities’ are not even trying to.
But a half-decent secondary school education really ought to be enough to see that normal science cannot explain this farce. Neither can normal government.
Which means that we are currently stuck with science and government which are not normal.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 5:54 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The Freemasons and Zionists in the pay of the Illuminati.

It could not be any clearer than that.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 3:30 AM

Very probably, but what you say is not clear to the vast majority of people.
They never see it mentioned anywhere.
We are the ‘lucky’ ones…

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 16, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  Jacques

You are not thinking like a megalomaniac. These people want to kill (depopulate), plunder (fiat money, precious metals, industrial materials, land, etc.) and enslave (with inescapable IDs and online money). If you ask what they will do with all that wealth, that is more incorrect thinking.

Fraudulents treatments alone kill or cripple millions every year, including zombified babies. So few talk of it.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 4:25 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Autism in boy babies in the US 1-22.

Someone’s taking the piss.

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 16, 2020 7:52 PM

it’s more like 22 in 22. if injections are harmful they don’t magically only harm a few. Everyone is harmed. They just didn’t show obvious signs that were noticed by the parents. Such parents having been complicit in allowing the injections are also not going to want to notice anything as it would mean accepting they were terrible parents. They also were already injected themselves so suffering from the effects. Since the injections are gradual this can be a gradual injuring that doesn’t get detected since it is happening to all the other kids and so nobody notices just how bad it is. Covid insanity suggests it is near universal. Then ofcourse all these doctors and scientists.. “the educated” get flu jabs every year so are particularly heavily brain damaged.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 4:10 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Whatever is done is the stupidest thing possible, all suggesting the hidden agenda on which people such as those frequenting these pages agree.

hidden agenda? there’s no hidden agenda, it’s right out in the open. they’re so confident of the supine obedience of the muzzle-wearing sheep, that they publicly announce exactly what they’re going to do.

well, maybe not EXACTLY. the actual plan is undoubtedly far worse than the PR campaign lets on.

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 7:37 AM
Reply to  Julia

Believe me Julia, at times I’ve had my doubts and at times I thought I was going stark raving bonkers. A few times I even had really dark thoughts, which I won’t verbalise here. End of the day, too much just doesn’t add up. Everything seems too scripted, too co-ordinated, especially in the odious MSM. Don’t even start me on all the Dancing Nurses routines. Coming on here and a few other sites helps me keep sane. Knowing there are others out there who see what I see, and meeting people face to face gives you such a positive mental boost. I do believe this has all been planned for a long time now. Have you read the Lockstep Document put out by the Rockefellers in 2010? An exact replica of how this year has panned out. Then we have Fort Dettrick, and what was being done there. Then we… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 7:46 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yeah. If somebody wanted to take control over the world, force every person into submission, this would be the perfect scenario. People have been literally robbed of their bodies. Or control of their bodies. Everybody’s body is now potential bio hazard. With the advent of AI/robotization, it was clear that two scenarios are possible – either AI would be made to serve humanity, free us from labor, and pave the way toward more meaningful an existence, or it would be used to enslave us. And possibly replace people deemed unnecessary and replace them with androids. People have been too busy buying the next useless piece of shit and playing with the next useless gizmo to even notice that there is an industrial revolution in the making. There has been no public debate about how humanity should approach AI. Actually, there has been no meaningful public debate to speak of about… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 8:04 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Far too many distractions Jacques, including the recent Punch & Judy Show in the United States, and of course, the latest digital gizmo. I know Elon Musk has his Neuralink project in the pipeline, and there are others pushing AI as well. Personally I think it’s a very small group of soulless creatures pushing this. I may be wrong, but I tend to think people like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab are more the public face of this agenda, they’re more like messengers. There were a number of really good sites about AI and Transhumanism that I came across a few months ago, and, um, forgot to bookmark them, but two of them are Wrench In The Gears blog and Truthstream Media which I recommend. At least you’re out in a rural area away from the big cities which will be better than being in a city of 5 million… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 8:20 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Funny, I bought this place in 2015 – totally hidden from the world, in the woods, but only some 20 minutes by train and a bit longer by car from downtown. Seems like a visionary decision now. The city is calm for now, but you’re right, a large city is the last place where you wanna be these days …

Hoping you’re hanging in there …

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 8:38 AM
Reply to  Jacques

I’d rather be where you are…. but I do know what’s coming Jacques. There are very rural areas in Victoria away from Melbourne that would be relatively safe, but for now closely monitoring everything and be ready to go almost straight away.
Been back at work for just over 2 weeks, been incredibly good sales, eating well, and shoving money away as fast as possible, tho a bank account won’t be of any use when it all goes belly up. Hope your week goes well…

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 9:12 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Busy working.

A depressing bit as regards how ingrained this COVID bullshit has become in just about every aspect of life. I’m a translator and I’m translating the rules for the world’s most popular game. Believe it or not, but the effers have managed to add a whole section of rules for this or that and the other thing when something happens due to CV-19. Or “another similar disease” (sic).

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 4:33 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

shoving money away as fast as possible, tho a bank account won’t be of any use when it all goes belly up.

cash. get a raggedy old coat that nobody would ever consider stealing, and start sewing large bills into the lining. when TSHTF, put on said emergency coat, and leave.

on consideration, it would be well to keep some small bills as well, because after the Great Reset, nobody will be able to make change.

kevin
kevin
Nov 16, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Particularly if one was seeking a global takeover, a ‘pandemic’ allows for reach into every single community on earth. What else could possibly accomplish that goal?

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 7:57 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I sadly, sadly agree with you. But then I guess the most huge, overhanging question becomes: HOW the hell did so many people get so blithely on board with it all? How? And what about the governments who you’d think had no dog in the race, so to speak? What about them? What’s in it for them and their foot soldiers? Part of the problem of being isolated behind borders and not allowed to or able to travel anywhere means that we can’t even really know the truth of what’s going on in other places, can we? It makes me want to weep with frustration.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 8:26 AM
Reply to  Julia

A part of how is that they piggybacked stuff they’ve been shoving down people’s throats for years, decades. Such as Trump=Evil incarnate=Covid denier and the local variations thereof elsewhere in the world.

The medical profession was probably the easiest to harness. They have to follow strict protocols, lest they get criminally prosecuted. Also, according to Andrew Kaufman, doctors, by and large, are not really trained to be inquisitive, to do things in a scientific way, to question the status quo. They’re trained to obediently follow the protocols. Plus, they’ve got huge debts from paying medical school tuititions to pay off … the detriments of losing a license are far greater than the benefits of coming out and calling out this bullshit.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 8:28 AM
Reply to  Julia

How? Very simply Julia, fear of death. Fear of their own mortality, which the filth media have played upon to the hilt. I’ve had a long day and I’m really tired, so sorry if I don’t make sense, but especially in the West, it’s to do with the vast increase in secularism, and the decline in a genuine faith, in an authentic spirituality, a connectedness with the Earth…. which has been replaced by rampant consumerism, narcissism and hedonism. People have become afraid to die.
I think even the foot soldiers will be discarded if this agenda succeeds.
Politicians are venal creatures who will be looking for a very well paid job at WHO or Rockefeller Foundation or The Wellcome Trust or somewhere.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 16, 2020 11:37 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Spot on.

elsewhere
elsewhere
Nov 16, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  Julia

An interesting piece of the puzzle, mentioned here before, is that most western governments have secret contracts (ie they get money) with the WHO, which obligates them to follow certain rules if the WHO declares a pandemic. And then the WHO changed the definition of what is a pandemic… QED

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 12:55 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

The agreements might not even be secret. There probably are protocols linked to emergencies or situations declared by the WHO, which, BTW, would be okay under normal circumstances. The peddler of shitty software is one smart son of a bitch to exploit this convenient backdoor, ain’t he.

Also, I’ve read that as part of this nondemic, the WHO has been distributing cash left and right. There is a video showing Belarus president talking about being offered first 90 and then 900 million euros for locking down, which he refused, and I’ve read that, for instance, Tanzanian president – the guy who tested birds and fruits – has accepted cash, and there hasn’t been a word from him ever since.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 16, 2020 11:13 AM
Reply to  Julia

Hope is eternal. The Transnational Financiers are working on the strategy that people will lose hope. It is one of the Satanic tactics they are employing. Hope is to despair as what good is to evil which is exactly what they and their underlings are !

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 16, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Julia

Is it possible that all we who frequent these pages are just wrong, and there is no great reset, no larger plan, and that our governments have just become increasingly careful in the face of what they perhaps *know* is a biological weapon? I’d say, no, it isn’t possible. It doesn’t even take advanced scientific knowledge to realize that the ‘facts’ we are constantly presented with in the MSM are not facts at all. My mother was a nurse, and I grew up with access to, and an interest in, all her reference books, so perhaps I have an advantage there, but in any case virology had hardly got off the ground in her day. At least what I know from decades of familiarity with common knowledge about bacteria and viruses bears out what most people here have discovered: That something much more pervasive and sick is currently at work… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I have been fortunate enough to have been working almost all the way through – having been redeployed not long after the bull hit. I am working in residential care and I am subjected to daytime TV and radio. The propaganda is unbelievable. Radio may be worse. It’s like: DJ: “And today we will be getting calls to see how everyone is coping with this utterly horrific and deadly plague that is going to kill everyone unless we get a vaccine. Here’s our first caller. Jenny from Hartlepool. Hello, Jenny?” Jenny: “Oh hi Mike. Yes, it’s just awful round here. I saw a couple of people collapse in front of me yesterday. There was blood everywhere. This utterly horrific and deadly plague is going to kill everyone unless we get a vaccine!” DJ: “Thanks Jenny. Now here’s Bert from Croydon. Hi Bert” Bert: “Hi Mike. It’s even worse here. I… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 10:13 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Oh God… I’m in Croydon next Monday! What’ll I do? Should I go to Mitcham instead? Corpses piled up in the doorway! How will Bert get out of his house? Should I try and bring him food? Okay, being serious now… those are actual suburbs in Melbourne where I do sell the mag. I remember you were still working and I asked you about Emmerdale ages ago. The above scenes you describe sound like they’re from Shaun Of The Dead. Coz I’m out of lockdown, and using public transport, the propaganda has become really in your face noticeable, but I keep forgetting to take my earphones so I can listen to music on my phone instead of Pam from Network Control bleating about covid and facemasks. Your comments about the alleged Left and their utterly dim-witted and deluded support for the new normal measures are spot on by the way.… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 10:34 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Well I suppose in Oz you at least get lockdown in the sun. Not that that would impress me since, being a Calvinist Scot, I just love the wind and the rain. Indeed lockdown is my ideal society as I have always been an anti-social bastard. Chapter 80 of the Tao Te Ching always appealed to me:   “A small country has fewer people. Though there are machines that can work ten to a hundred times faster      than man, they are not needed. The people take death seriously and do not travel far. Though they have boats and carriages, no on uses them. Though they have armor and weapons, no one displays them. Men return to the knotting of rope in place of writing. Their food is plain and good, their clothes fine but simple,      their homes secure; They are happy in their ways. Though they live within sight of… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 11:24 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Try wearing a facemask outside on a humid 33 degree day (yesterday). Wait until it gets to 38-39 degrees. There’ll be lots of people fainting all over the place, especially the elderly. No cases here for 17 days straight, and facemasks are still mandatory. One of the new conditions of selling the mag is facemasks must be worn while selling, tho I’ve taken it off a number of times, especially yesterday. This morning got asked by a passerby “Where’s your facemask, why aren’t you wearing it”. I said ‘it’s in my bag’. The guy just glared then walked off. It only takes one person to phone up the office about me not wearing a mask, and I’ll be automatically suspended or even sacked as a vendor, because Management are totally on board with the covid safe propaganda. Thanks for the quote, I’ve actually read it a few times and have… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 16, 2020 2:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Hello George Mc: Thanks for the quote from the Tao Te Ching.
I read and studied the Tao for many years. Lao Tze condensed social reality down to the simple art of living. Another quote: “Nature does nothing, yet everything gets done.”

It’s too bad the Chinese allowed the rise of industrial Maoism. They’ve condemned themselves to becoming soulless androids and demonic machines.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 4:41 PM

It’s too bad the Chinese allowed the rise of industrial Maoism.

maybe they got tired of mediaeval poverty, with its associated mass starvation and real epidemic diseases.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 17, 2020 3:24 AM
Reply to  THX-1154

Or maybe Maoist poverty was pretty bad too, as well as adding the curse of obliterating all natural feeling for beauty, goodness, genuine art and moral integrity.
I expect modern Chinese think a swimming pool and a Hollywood-style mansion are now the meaning of life…

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Nov 16, 2020 12:48 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Trump realises

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 10:23 PM

Hi Nick, hope things are more saner in your part of the world than here? The whole thing was a giant fraud. Have a video of a young woman saying that even her dog Maggie was registered as a voter! I can’t share it due to phone issues, but it’s doing the rounds on Facebook. A 10 year old could understand how fraudulent it was, yet the MSM….

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 16, 2020 11:09 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yes, the Scamdemic Propaganda is working on both a overt and subliminal message. The Constant scarey fairy nonsense about social distancing, wearing face nappies, obsessive Howard Hughes syndrome are right in your face at every bus stop, every advertising poster, and on every shop doorway. In addition to, the constant tannoy proclamations of the supermarkets “ pandemic “ etc. It’s reminds me of the wartime propaganda of WW2 which in many aspects it is.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 12:13 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Have earphones at home I keep forgetting to take when I head off for work. Rather listen to music than the constant crap over the train PA. Goebbels would be proud of what’s been done this year, but the whole point of the scamdemic propaganda is to get people to Subconsciously Accept the new normal, so that their whole pysche is changed.
And get them so fearful, they will literally do Anything to keep ‘safe’. Including taking the vaccine. That’s how insidious this is…

John Deehan
John Deehan
Nov 16, 2020 12:32 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Correct. I listened to an old woman parroting the slogan the ” new normal” and how people should accept but not really what a dystopian nightmare that will be for most of humanity if we are blind enough to roll over with it.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Nov 16, 2020 5:44 AM

I just read the latest article on good trusty Aunty Beeb’s website. On the surface of it, some horseshit about another ‘promising vaccine’.

A couple of paragraphs in, I saw this troubling sentence which was so important it merited it’s own paragraph:

“However, many types of vaccine are likely to be needed to end the pandemic”

Um, what? I haven’t heard this one before. Nice of them to quietly seed this idea. I wonder if we’ll see this start to flower into the mainstream narrative shaping over the coming weeks?

Article is here for anyone who has the stomach for bbc links –
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54951650

ame
ame
Nov 16, 2020 10:09 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

good choice of word seeding i seen articles interviews where you may need 2 or more or the wonder cure comes in 2 doses or the side effects may be unpleasant but that’s ok it means it working ……………………

https://www.yahoo.com/now/covid-19-vaccine-may-unpleasant-100438136.html

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  ame

“We are asking people to take a vaccine that is going to hurt,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “There are lots of sore arms and substantial numbers of people who feel crummy, with headaches and muscle pain, for a day or two.” Persuading people who experience those symptoms to return in three to four weeks for a second dose — and a second round of flu-like symptoms — could be a tough sell, Schaffner said. How public health experts explain such effects is important, Omer said. “There’s evidence that suggests that if you frame pain as a proxy of effectiveness, it’s helpful,” he said. “If it’s hurting a little, it’s working.” in other words, they have no hesitation about overtly lying to people. what else might they be willing to lie about, if their expert analysis determined that… Read more »

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 4:55 AM

I’m getting tired of this argument. How do we move on from the shite we’re in if all we do is mock lesser mortals for their failure to see the world as we do? How elitist is that?

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 6:57 AM

I don’t think it’s really mocking. It’s more like frustrated hand wringing, and the burning desire to scream from the hilltops “are you people f***ing blind?!” ;-))

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 7:02 AM
Reply to  Julia

Maybe, but it still talks down to them, assumes we know better than they do, fails to engage with or treat them as worthwhile human beings with hopes and dreams like the rest of us and gets us nowhere. Unless, of course, you want to subscribe to the bleak view that it’s all over, in which case, knock yourself out, because with that attitude, it certainly will be.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 7:04 AM

Actually, what really gets me is that this is just another fascist blaming the victims.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 7:32 AM

And…

One should stop talking about the “motives of an evil elite” because that makes the populace look stupid and we are patronizing them.

That sounds like a .gov disinfo technique using PC to shut down debate.

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 7:24 AM

I’m unclear on what you are suggesting; that we abandon our views on this situation until more people come around to seeing things our way? That we keep it low to the ground at the risk of offending those who don’t agree with us? I would also note that is it the true blue members of the Cult Covidian who don’t shy away a bit from labelling those of us who aren’t 100% “on board” with their agenda as moronic “Covidiots” and/or dangerous psychopaths. What’s more, their platform is the entire mainstream global media in doing so, so I’d say they have the upper-hand for sure where publicity is concerned.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 7:52 AM
Reply to  Julia

I’m suggesting we abandon our views, yes, not until anyone comes round to us but so that we can actually begin to hear each other and from that come up with a solution based on cooperation and other human values. Thinking you have the answer is a sure sign that you don’t, And debate only makes sense as a path to getting there if the answer is knowable. Right now, it isn’t, so we have to look afresh. We sure won’t find it by imposing our views, no matter how much we think we’re right.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Nov 16, 2020 8:45 AM

Schwachsinn! Unfug! Go, look it up in a dictionary.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 9:07 AM
Reply to  rechenmacher

Now there’s a thoughtful contribution that explains exactly what I mean.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 2:56 PM

I’m suggesting we abandon our views, yes, not until anyone comes round to us but so that we can actually begin to hear each other and from that come up with a solution based on cooperation and other human values.

I think I see where you’re coming from.

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kevin
kevin
Nov 16, 2020 5:54 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Exactly.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Thank you. 🙂

kevin
kevin
Nov 16, 2020 5:53 PM

Sounds like you are telling us to say nothing while dystopian plans are implemented. Or, more accurately, I think you are suggesting we say nothing to ensure those plans can be implemented without any resistance.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  kevin

I’m sorry you got that from what I wrote. I wanted to convey that we have to open our minds. This BS where we think we know more than we do and we defend ourselves with overblown rhetoric is not helping.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 7:52 AM

The mocking bit notwithstanding, how we move on from this shite is a good question.

Spreading information to get as many people on board as possible. Common sense, roots, traditions should kick in sooner or later, at least in the case of some. Over here, in our little Central European country, I see more and more of that. I mean how stupid is it to impose a 9:00 p.m. curfew to stop the spread of a virus? Even educated people (see the comments above about how educated people most susceptible to fall for this crap) should be able to understand that.

Legal action.

Resistance of this or that kind …

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 8:03 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Yeah, the nonsensical evening curfews on bars and restaurants (like ones which suppose a virus only creeps in after 20.00) seem like a good starting point to get people on board with anger and frustration, and later some action. As for legal action, protests are spreading everywhere, but are not really covered in global media; maybe what is needed is some sort of global underground network so people can communicate and organise from country to country. Later, we will need some sort of underground transport network anyway, for people who have refused to get the vaccine.

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 8:30 AM
Reply to  Julia

Been watching Demolition Man ….?

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 8:28 AM
Reply to  Jacques

We really need to accept that we may not know what we think we know. For 40 years, we’ve all been bleating the mantras of neoliberalism which were promoted as The Natural Order of Things, but are in fact just a model, one of many. And, objectively, how is the neoliberal model doing? For starters, there is so much money around that doesn’t know what to do with itself, that the price of money (interest rates) has never been lower. Ever. Basic supply and demand. At the same time, neoliberal governments, citing lack of money, have imposed austerity measures on the working class, cutting services and support to such an extent that serious social problems have arisen. The reason the governments are short of cash is because they have continually reduced the share of GDP that goes into public coffers. Blind Freddy can see the resultant inequality is a highly… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Nov 16, 2020 9:13 AM

Sure. Now, all we have to do is to figure out how to put that into practice. The making of society for humans, not for m-effers.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 10:22 AM
Reply to  Jacques

As the Buddhist saying goes: “there is no path to peace; peace is the path”.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 16, 2020 6:18 PM

For 40 years, we’ve all been bleating the mantras of neoliberalism

maybe you have, you disinfo tool. that would explain the actual objective of your collaborationist blather.

say hi to your friends at work, for us.

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Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
Nov 16, 2020 11:05 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Oh dear. This is why we’re in such trouble – too many people so fearful and vulnerable that they cannot cope with the feeling that they may not know everything or they may be wrong in even the smallest way. This is an entirely emotional reaction and it produces an entirely emotional response, viz. to lash out at the messenger, calling us names and, most of all, dumb or stupid. It makes you feel better, but it blocks the path to dialogue. Why is dialogue important? The world has changed. We need a fresh approach. We cannot get a fresh approach by debating each other. Debates can only work when the answer is already in the mind of one of the debaters and they can get the others to agree or acquiesce. That’s the way we’ve done things since the Enlightenment, because, the odd war or revolution aside, it worked.… Read more »

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 17, 2020 6:54 AM

yah, that’s a standard psyop tactic — imply that dissidents must have psychiatric problems. obviously, they couldn’t have arrived at their position through any kind of rational analysis, because reality is whatever the government says it is. QED.

go back to the actual Guardian, disinfo shill. you’re out of your depth here.

Dennis Varrni
Dennis Varrni
Nov 16, 2020 4:18 AM

This is good…if you just wanta bitch. The cry of the weak who know it. You can’t tell them, you can’t show them or rub faces in it. All you can do is wait until they die off.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 16, 2020 3:35 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
Trump’s Pentagon Shake Up/
2018 EO- Foreign Election Interference Sting Underway/
Voting Machines DESIGNED To Steal: Release the Kraken!/
Dominion Sec Chief Was Also Antifa/
Witness BLM.Antifa DC Rally Attacks

“Everybody Knows” – reminds one of that great Leonard Cohen song, no? What is going on in the USA is revolutionary and it is going to change everything. It’s going to change how Covid is finally addressed with some sanity, and its going to help elections worldwide get better.

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 3:39 PM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Who to blame?

The Freemason yes men who are paid off by the Illuminati. Blair, Boris, Macron, Biden and the rest.

If we posters do not identify the real culprits then how are the dumbed down electorate, who vote for the Two Headed Snake every five years, going to know.

The old Labour and Conservative parties are now totally without redemption.

We need new and untainted political parties.

Stand up Nigel Farage and others.

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 16, 2020 3:00 AM

Absolutely. At the moment, many Americans actually think it makes a difference which mask for the oligarchy is declared the winner. For sure it’s being used as distraction from our real fight against TPTB– and it may be used for disturbances that will lead to martial law. We are possibly the most propagandized people in the world. I have been awake since 1963, and the really surprising thing is that uneducated people saw through it even then– but not so many of the well-educated. That holds true even today. There ARE well-educated who see through it– but those who don’t are disproportionately among the educated. I suppose they’ve just had more years of propaganda at university, or that they feel themselves to be part of “the system”. I’ve not met a single Mexican immigrant who hasn’t seen through it all– from covid to the election. Greatly to my surprise the… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 4:58 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Agree with your perception Penny. When I’m out selling my street mag here in Melbourne, there appears to be more covid sceptics in the less affluent, more working class areas than in the wealthier areas with a higher proportion of University graduates and white collar types.
About the only friend I have left is University educated, reads The Guardian, and seems to be a fan of Black Lives Matter, and also regards himself as socialist. Yet he is fully on board with the pandemic narrative. I know quite a few others like this as well, most are customers.
I met another covid sceptic today, and we had a brilliant maskless chat while passers-by walked past. Turns out she is in the same covid sceptics group that I’m in.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 16, 2020 6:33 AM
Reply to  Penelope

yes, I am one that thinks its going to make a great deal of difference. Certainly far from perfect, but there is definitely a difference between the two choices in this election. The Insider Club has gone to incredibly astonishing lengths to demonize and get rid of Trump, because he can’t be controlled with blackmail like all the Presidents since Carter have been.

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 16, 2020 11:08 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

“get rid of Trump, because he can’t be controlled with blackmail”.

You really think Trump has nothing he can be blackmailed on? Really? Trump made his money in New York construction and Vegas’ gambling for heaven’s sake.

The revealing thing is that his so-called opponents try to get Trump on stuff he hasn’t done, not the stuff he has (like his Rothschild bail-out or visits to Epstein island). Left-wing or right-wing, it’s all attached to the same bird.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 16, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Also he never went to the island and there are no flight logs with his name. If they are please show me. He did know Epstein early on and had some contact with him but kicked him out of his club for violating a young girl.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 16, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Simple answer. No I dont because if there was they would have used it on him instead of all the fake stuff.
STOP assuming anyone thinks he’s perfect He’s basically on the side of a solid working economy and no lockdowns or masks which right now is as good as it gets.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 16, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

and anti- war. First actual no war president in my lifetime/

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Nov 16, 2020 3:47 PM
Reply to  Edwige

There is no evidence that Trump visited Orgy Island but his Lawyer was Roy Cohn. I would be far more concerned by Trumps dealings with Roy Cohn than anything in the article. There is much in the past that I would like cleared up, Fat Tony Salernos control of building sites in association with Paul Castallano. Short of asking Trump himself, how can the truth be established? If there was anything concrete about Trump that the Deep State could use, would it not have been used by now? The illuminati board game makes great use of the expression Groups, as if there are competing factions within the Illuminati that are constantly Jostling for position. Is the illuminati using one of its Puppets, Trump, to take down a faction or group that has become too powerful and overreached itself, that is the Deep State in the US. Or has the Illuminati… Read more »

Julia
Julia
Nov 16, 2020 7:00 AM
Reply to  Penelope

This is super astute. There seems to be a direct correlation between the amount of education and the inability to see through the bullshit; I’m wondering if perhaps one of the results of mainstream western education is to ground the student so heavily in arguments for rationality that this fact alone blinds people to the possibilities of more extreme and hence irrational realities taking root and unfolding around them?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 16, 2020 7:39 AM
Reply to  Julia

It’s always been that way. Thirty years ago I was on a jury in the most blatant theft where a guy was caught outside a high-end boutique off Bond Street, poking a 15-foot pole through the letterbox to unhook and remove dresses.

The more formal education the jurors had had, the more likely they were to construct excuses in their flights of imagination for an innocent explanation. The defendant said: “I was just walking along (it was 3 a.m.) and I saw this pole sticking out of a letterbox and I wondered what it was.”

“Why, were you on your belly looking through the letter box?”

The graduates fell for it. The salt of the earth did not. The paper qualifications outweighed the salt. Defendant acquitted. Punched the air and shouted at the prosecution as he walked out.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 16, 2020 11:46 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

There is very old saying “ bullshit baffles brains” hence why the police, armed forces etc have sergeants to enforce the rules otherwise the plebs would run rings around the officer class and I have seen this in schools as well. Reminds me of Tim the Harry Enfield character educated beyond his intelligence!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 8:13 AM
Reply to  Julia

I’ve noticed this for quite a while when selling the mag, and others at OffG have also pointed this out. By and large, the more educated a person, the less likely they will rock the boat, and the more pro the system they will be as well as believing the MSM.
I’ve seen that with covid, and with other things as well like Russiagate. Your more average, working class person tends to have a bigger bullshit detector. I know that’s generalising, but that’s from my own experience.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 17, 2020 9:11 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

The success game.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 17, 2020 9:25 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Yes indeed. This ties in with your name but as long as you have a roof over your head, food in the cupboards, paid work, human companionship and occasional treats (like Cds or a meal out) what more do you need? Too many people grasping for more and more… never content with what they do have.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 17, 2020 9:32 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Add in a few bikes and I’ll agree 🙂
The ‘educated’ working for big companies/the govt in managerial positions basically bullshit for a living. They have to or they’d be out of a job. It becomes their whole persona. Being open and honest does not a ‘successful’ person make.
The Greggs worker doesn’t need to lie to do her job.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Nov 17, 2020 9:52 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Don’t gain the world and lose your soul; wisdom is better than silver or gold.
~Bob Marley

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 18, 2020 2:47 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Touché…

Ort
Ort
Nov 16, 2020 9:44 PM
Reply to  Julia

Hannah Arendt addressed this dismal phenomenon regarding the German professional classes (especially the legal profession) and academia’s sympathy for, or passive acceptance of, the Nazi regime. The churches, too.

It was the vaunted German intelligentsia that most readily either explicitly approved of the Reich’s “social engineering” policies and programs, or submissively acceded to them in order to preserve their security and social status.

Philippe
Philippe
Nov 17, 2020 9:37 AM
Reply to  Penelope

We were talking about this very point the other day. My wife spoke to a friend of hers on the phone, for the first time in a few months. The friend is a highly ‘educated’, professional woman. She was completely onboard with all the nonsense; until my wife starting pointing out some of the problems with the narrative. The friend kept saying, “I haven’t heard that” whenever my wife relayed evidence (PCR tests, statistics, masks, lockdowns etc). To her credit, the friend appeared to have changed her view (to some degree or other) by the end of the conversation. Thinking about that conversation and reading this specific comment thread, two things occur to me. Firstly: Professional, educated people tend to be outcome-focused. They have their eyes fixed firmly on the prize (whatever that may be for them) and tend to disregard their immediate surroundings except to plot a course through… Read more »