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Trump Exits Somalia

Binoy Kampmark

These are things that might have been done earlier. During the last, flickering days of the Trump administration, activity is being witnessed across countries which have a US troop presence. Numbers are being reduced. Security wonks are getting the jitters. Is the imperium shrinking? Will President elect Joe Biden wake up and reverse the trend? With the Beltway foreign policy Blob advising him, most likely.

In November, acting defence secretary Christopher Miller announced that the number of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq would fall from 4,500 to 2,500 and 3,500 to 2,500 respectively. Somalia has been added to the list of countries which will see US withdrawals in some number. The current troop presence stands at 700, tasked with assisting an African Union-backed peacekeeping force combat the al-Shabaab insurgency.

A good number are also there to train and support Danab, the Somali special forces with eyes on capturing and killing leaders of the insurgent movement.

The ultimate objective of US Africa Command in East Africa, then, “is one in which terrorist organizations are not able to threaten the US homeland, US persons, international allies or destabilize the region.”

This is a conflict that has a relentless air of eternity to it. Al-Shabaab counts itself as yet another, albeit more formidable militant group, that has thrived in Somalia’s unruly environment. Its claim to radicalised fame came with Ethiopia’s December 2006 invasion of the country. It was encouraged by the Somalian transitional government, with the intention of ousting al-Shabaab and the Islamic Courts Union from Mogadishu, captured by the fundamentalist alliance that June.

According to Robert Wise, the Ethiopian occupation transformed al-Shabaab “from a small relatively unimportant part of a more moderate Islamic movement into the most powerful and radical armed faction in the country.” Yet another salient lesson in the perils of foreign intervention.

US administrations might have feared the messiness of the Somali scene. The death of 18 US soldiers in October 1993 in a failed effort to capture the warlord Mohamed Farrah Aidid in Mogadishu stung. Cruise-missile humanitarians and interventionists would have to wait for the republic to find its feet again.

The attacks of September 11, 2001 on the United States furnished the moment, incarnating the global terrorist phenomenon and the pretext for an international deployment of US forces, officially and covertly. On March 19, 2003, the capture and interrogation of Suleiman Abdallah heralded the return of US troops to Somalia.

During the Obama administration, US drone strikes, with all the accompanying problems of legality and accountability, were the favoured weapon of choice against the group. These were also accompanied by ground raids. Killings, such as those of its leader, Ahmed Abdi Godane, in September 2014, were celebrated as triggers for an eventual collapse that never came.

“Godane’s removal is a major symbolic and operational loss to the largest al-Qaida affiliate in Africa,” came the confident assessment from the White House, “and reflects years of painstaking work by our intelligence, military and law enforcement officials.”

Godane’s slaying was a spur, rather than a deterrent, for the organisation. Attacks on African peacekeeping forces increased; suicide bombings were used liberally, culminating in the slaughter of October 2017 in Mogadishu leaving almost 600 civilians dead.

In the earlier stage of his administration, President Donald Trump showed a marked interest in deepening US involvement in Somalia. The rhetoric of disentanglement was nowhere to be found.

In March 2017, he approved a proposal from the Pentagon to expand operations against militants in the country. Commanders were no longer required to obtain high-level vetting of al-Shabaab targets in designated “areas of active hostilities”. As General Thomas Waldhauser of US Africa Command described it, “It allows [us] to prosecute targets in a more rapid fashion.” In 2018, 47 US drone strikes were executed. Last year, the number climbed to 63.

This was not to last. Trump began to cool to the US involvement. Earlier this year, the US pulled out from the cities of Bosaso and Galkayo. The now departed defence secretary Mark Esper was not enthused by the change of heart, and preferred continued engagement. Trump, for his part, preferred Kenyan security forces to have a greater role.

The statement from the Pentagon was packed with those reassurances that will affect audiences differently. The overall theme of the exit is change without difference.

The US is not withdrawing or disengaging from Africa. We remain committed to our African partners and enduring support through a whole-of-government approach.”

This is not the case of US soldiers returning home to celebratory fanfare for a disentangling republic. Many will find themselves in neighbouring Kenya, which has had its fair share of problems with al-Shabaab.

As a result of this decision, some forces may be reassigned outside of East Africa. However, the remaining forces will be repositioned from Somalia into neighbouring countries in order to allow cross-border operations by both US and partner forces.”

Somali President Mohamed Abdullah Mohamed is none too keen on the move, suggesting that his brittle government has gotten used to a particular diet of assistance.

In October, he took to Twitter to claim that US “military support to Somalia has enabled us to effectively combat Al-Shabaab and secure the Horn of Africa. A victory through this journey and for Somali-US partnership can only be achieved through continuous security partnership and capacity building support.”

Senator Ayub Ismail Yusuf called the decision to remove US forces “untimely.” Well attuned to the language that has kept Washington engaged in foreign theatres since 2001, the true enemy was terrorism.

The fight against global terrorism is still ongoing and we must still win this battle for peace and security to prevail.”

Colonel Ahmed Abdullahi Sheikh, Danab’s commander for three years till 2019, is convinced that making such a withdrawal permanent “will have a huge toll on counterterrorism efforts”.

Such comments suggest a far rosier picture of US involvement and Somali government successes. The US Defence Department Inspector General is far more measured in the July-September 2020 report.

Despite many years of sustained Somali, US, and international counterterrorism pressure, the terrorist threat in East Africa is not degraded: al-Shabaab retains freedom of movement in many parts of southern Somalia and has demonstrated an ability and intent to attack outside of the country, including targeting US interests.”

For the devotees of the imperial footprint, there is no way around it. The decision to exit is poor; the imperium’s interests will be harmed. William Lawrence from the American University in Washington, DC does not even shy away from a pseudo-colonial message. “The blow from the US operations standpoint is that over time, it will lose its ability to Americanise on the ground and to have more interaction with Somali troops.” Somalia would suffer a “real blow” with the departure of US personnel. “There is no good military or strategic reason for this move.”

Dr. Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne. Email: [email protected].

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Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Dec 16, 2020 11:05 AM

I know nothing about African in general or Somalian politics in particular except …

The death of 18 US soldiers in October 1993 in a failed effort to capture the warlord Mohamed Farrah Aidid in Mogadishu stung.

The evidence suggests it was a staged event.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/battle-of-mogadishu-1993.html

Attacks on African peacekeeping forces increased; suicide bombings were used liberally, culminating in the slaughter of October 2017 in Mogadishu leaving almost 600 civilians dead.

The evidence suggests it was a staged event (bombing of an evacuated area)
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/bologna-1980-and-mogadishu-2017.html

I was initially doubtful about Francis Richard Conolly’s claim in his film that woke me up, JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick, “All terror is fake” but more and more I think it’s very, very true.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Dec 10, 2020 11:59 PM

yup, at the end of the 2024 all you anti Trump this and that will be holding your heads between you legs and wondering what the hell were you thinking.

get ready for it because its going to be one big shit storm.

and then all your black lives will really be mattering, not to mention all the white ones, the red ones and the yellow ones…did I forget colour ?

its a shame when human lives act like morons.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 10, 2020 2:18 PM

I know this sounds counter intuitive, because any ideal other than prescribed “ideals” are prohibited from discussion… Do civilians actually wish to stop war? Police States? How about international terrorism? No problem: Issue every mentally competent citizen a state of the art weapon designed for personal defense, and train them well in it’s use. The initial blood bath would rid most populations of the real assholes in the first year. I could only suppose “authorities” would object, but if someone intimidated or assaulted you (not a good idea) you’d be free to just blow the dumb ass away. After the first year, local jurisdictions could issue three “Complete Asshole” tags (kind of like dear tags) with every passing season. The tags would only offer limited open season for a month or so, but they’d give license to blow more dumb assholes away if they happened to piss you off during… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 11, 2020 5:42 AM

Even great men of the best intensions need a few scoundrels around them. There are some things you cannot ask an honest man to do. – Jean de la Bruyere

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Dec 9, 2020 11:45 PM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com MOMENTUM: 17 States In SCOTUS Lawsuit/
“Greatest Threat…Since Civil War”/
You Tube Censors Election Talk

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Dec 9, 2020 11:46 PM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

SCOTUS – Supreme Court of The United States

livingsb
livingsb
Dec 9, 2020 4:59 PM

The old bait n’ switch, three card Monty, over and over and over…Trump has no power. Trump does some things that make sense, but he has been branded as a crazy, racist kook. Meanwhile, the the Dems are now the party of tyrants. The Dems used to hate TV, killing, forced medical procedures. Now it’s all good! Up is down, left is right, scince is fraudulent, but right is right. Stop watching the show.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Dec 9, 2020 11:47 PM
Reply to  livingsb

at least Trump fights.

maxine
maxine
Dec 10, 2020 1:09 AM
Reply to  livingsb

If Trump did anything that made sense, it would be by accident….He is a crazy sadist and a racist, big-time….Perhaps Off-G praises him because they share the same anti-view of COVID19….Agreed, Democrats are no better.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Dec 9, 2020 4:10 PM

Well, although I seldom err when it comes to important issues, this time I am way off. Because I did not know Trump was in Somalia. My bad.

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
Dec 14, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  Nottheonly1

LOL

TFS
TFS
Dec 9, 2020 3:55 PM

Ah the everyday game of PR for the US masses.

Trump pulls ‘Americans’ out of Somalia, all whilst leaving CIA, Mecenaries and other Patriots in situ to fill the void and futher the Empire.

mae
mae
Dec 9, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  TFS

blackwater at 100 times the cost of normal army personal

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Dec 9, 2020 11:48 PM
Reply to  TFS

Guess you’ve been living under a rock? Trump doesn’t have control of the CIA – no President has since Kennedy was assasinated, with the exception of Big Bush former CIA director.

mae
mae
Dec 10, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

you been living under a mind control mountain thinking he is some radical President

Researcher
Researcher
Dec 9, 2020 3:33 PM

If people believe Trump decides troop presence, that’s absurd. The Pentagon decides policy and Trump goes along with whatever has been pre-planned. It doesn’t matter how many troops they have in a given region except to those deployed and their families, because the Pentagon can use contractors and proxies in place of troops, after drawdowns. If the Pentagon has decided to end their forever wars then that has nothing to do with who is president and everything to do with staging the next war. World War III: The war against the people. The idea that a billionaire, reality show actor, who fronted for Rothschild Inc and Resorts International in the 80’s, laundering money for illegal activities that the gangster government guards ferociously, is some kind of peacenik, is inane. Whatever international policy is being decided is merely a front for the movement of capital and resources by the transnational financiers… Read more »

tony0pmoc
tony0pmoc
Dec 9, 2020 3:17 PM

Edward Cutin’s latest is Brilliant. “The Past Lives On: The Elite Strategy To Divide and Conquer”

Chambers
Chambers
Dec 9, 2020 2:55 PM

I see Alex jones has made a shift in his conspiracy stories recently, with more emphasis on the ‘global conspiracy’ in alliance with the Chinese, and he has discovered a love of the muslim minorities in China, and is claiming mass murder by the Chinese.
That is an interesting shift and needs to be taken seriously, as Alex Jone is the political wing of the deep state and his shift in lies, point to a shift in emphasis. expect a lot more china baiting soon, whoever is in power.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Dec 9, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  Chambers

No, the democrats love China, they want a China type society in the USA, they dream of having that much control over peoples lives. China has been assisting the Biden campaign by starting the pandemic at exactly the right time to get Biden elected. China will be instrumental in helping them with their globalist agenda.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 10, 2020 11:01 PM
Reply to  David Meredith

I don’t think that anyone wants a ‘China type society’ in the US because we’re talking about very different cultural and political outlooks. We just have to learn to coexist with them and their world — just as we need to learn how to live with other societies that “aren’t us”. Our biggest weakness is a cultural outlook that is based in a Euro-centric view of culture — we’re the best, the only, and our mission in this world is to conquer, to subjugate and generally show those inferior natives how superior we are. This Imperal dynamic is not only well obsolete but also guaranteed to annoy everyone else on Earth.

China should be viewed as a formidable economic competitor. Instead of wasting our resources trying to compete militarily by maintaining outposts around the globe we should try copying them.

mae
mae
Dec 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  Chambers

alex jones LOL Used to cover false flags but found there was more $ in shilling for neocons & Zionists and selling the Muslims terrify him . Rightwing SJW hipster. now sells china com virus to his clueless fanbase
a establishment whore

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 9, 2020 2:11 PM

The thing is, I doubt most Americans know where Somalia is, or what its economic or political significance could possibly be, and they will therefore regard this ‘exit from Somalia’ as a total non-event.
A total withdrawal of all American military presence from Europe and the Middle East…?
Now that would be news…

David Meredith
David Meredith
Dec 9, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I think Americans think Somalia is a kind of pizza topping.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Dec 9, 2020 11:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

So condescending, yet no mention of Trumps historic efforts at peace deals in the Mideast. Not a good look on you, honestly.

Fox
Fox
Dec 9, 2020 1:30 PM

It has little to do with the frontmen Trump or Biden, absolutely Nothing. The US is an Empire and it has recognised that world Dollar supremacy, which under-pins its empire cannot be preserved forever, through CIA manufactured crisis, intended to cause flights to (dollar) safety. Fed dollar support will not be ended after the manufactured Covid crisis comes to an end, it will need to continue forever, and that is an admission of total economic failure. There is nowhere to go from here for the USA. They are bankrupt. But bankrupt with massive military liabilities all over the world. When the dollar goes down they will have no money to fund any of it, they will become what their should be, without the printing press. They have two choices: they can wait until a run on the dollar arrives, and a bankrupt humiliated America is forced to pull all it’s… Read more »

Dodge
Dodge
Dec 9, 2020 1:28 PM

It has nothing to do with the frontmen Trump or Biden, absolutely Nothing. The US is an Empire and it has recognised that world Dollar supremacy, which underpins its empire cannot be preserved forever, through CIA manufactured crisis, intended to cause flights to (dollar) safety. Fed dollar support cannot be ended after the manufactured Covid crisis comes to an end, it will need to continue forever, and that is an admission of total economic failure. There is nowhere to go from here for the USA. They are bankrupt. But bankrupt with massive military liabilities all over the world. When the dollar goes down they will have no money to fund any of it, they will become what their should be, without the printing press. They have two choices: they can wait until a run on the dollar arrives, and a bankrupt humiliated America is forced to pull all it’s troops… Read more »

Brianborou
Brianborou
Dec 9, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  Dodge

The true rulers of the US, UK and much of the world, the Transnational Financiers couldn’t care less about the US or any other nation on the face of the Earth. Their purpose is a One World Government as Kissinger, Zbigniew Zerbrinski, The Rockefeller’s, Lionel Curtis, Rothschilds and many others have openly stated. For over 50 years they have deliberately set out to impoverish both the US and much of the Western world. Hence why the agreement reached at The Bildeberg meeting in the early seventies in Sweden to orchestrate a oil shock price followed by the introduction of Neo Liberalism, the fabricated financial bubbles, the destruction of the industrial base of the US and much of Western Europe. The continual drain on the US economy by perpetual fabricated wars has accelerated thIs process whilst the Transnational Financiers were pouring finance and technology transfer to the technocracy country called The… Read more »

Tesxton
Tesxton
Dec 9, 2020 4:44 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

That is what the CIA are telling you anyway. The funny thing is they provide no proof at all, yet you still believe them. You are repeating silly children’s stories for babies, not for grown ups. They are laughing at you.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Dec 9, 2020 6:51 PM
Reply to  Tesxton

No, this is what Professors Antony C Sutton, Carol Quigley, Guido Preparata, Garry Allen, Eustace Mullins, Edward Griffin plus all of the people I mentioned in my first post and more.

It appears, you have neither read the books of all the Professors I have cited, the books of the other authors I have mentioned nor read the many many statements from those are either the first tier of the underlings of the Transnational Financiers.

The CIA is one tentacle of their executive arm as they did not exist before WW2 and could not have influenced or had a bearing on the events leading up to the events ranging from the orchestrated WW1, WW2, The Federal Reserve Act, The Wall Street crash which were all precursors to the events I briefly outlined in my first post.

Suggest you read more and write less!!!

richard
richard
Dec 9, 2020 8:30 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

don’t feed the trolls!
your comment – “The true rulers of the US, UK and much of the world,…” etc. – spot on!

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Dec 9, 2020 8:58 PM
Reply to  richard

Yes, well they are not very good at Brigade 77. They have no idea about true history hence why they usual spout so much tosh!!!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 10, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Hello Brianborou: You are quite correct. Nearly all events of the 20th century were orchestrated by the same financial clique’. Here’s more history: > Excerpted from: The Kalergi Plan – ENGLISH NEWS “The first major effort to promote the Pan-European idea to destroy the European races followed after the ‘Pan-Europa’ Congress of Vienna in 1926. By September of 1929 the Honorary President of the Pan-European Congress at the time (Aristide Briand) was giving speeches at the League of Nations openly advocating for the creation of “a federation of European Nations” after lobbying from the allies of Coudenhove-Kalergi, who were termed the ‘Coudenhove-Kalergis’ (PEU History PDF, “Pan-Europa – The parent idea of a united Europe”, PEU publishing, retrieved 31/03/2019, pp.1).” https://englishnews.org/2020/01/31/the-kalergi-plan/ The “New World Order” is simply a repackaging of old world order elitist dreams. The banking and market crashes of 1929 were promoted by the same idealists and money changers… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 12:57 PM

Al Shabab
Al Schawab

Taking bets on whose system is more free. You may be surprised.

richard
richard
Dec 9, 2020 12:28 PM

sorry to be off topic but important article by Jon Rappoport…

Florida Forcing Labs To Report Number of PCR Test Cycles—Game Changer – LewRockwell

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 9, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  richard

But even if labs are forced to report the number of ‘test’-cycles (remember, PCR is NOT a test), the department heads can still resort to good ol’-fashioned outright lying about any of their procedures or results…
We’re not out of the woods until fundamental dishonesty becomes an impossibility, and I’m not likely to see that day in my lifetime…

David Meredith
David Meredith
Dec 9, 2020 11:08 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Correct, PCR was never designed to be a test, it just uses chain reactions to multiply up a genetic code sequence so it becomes measurable or visible. Even the label on the test states: not to be used as diagnostic test.
Fundamental dishonesty will only become impossible on a global scale if enough people of power and influence call out this scam and prosecute the primary actors and those knowingly collaborating. Then clear out CDC, WHO and start again with strict regulations for what would constitute a health crisis and how to manage it with minimal impact. Probably the primary way to eliminate future health crises is to eliminate labs that work with viruses and vaccine development.

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 10:23 AM

A good primer for the rise of Islamic militants, links to Algerian intelligence DRC and how Bush leveraged as part war on terror are the works by Jeremy Keenan

https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/libya-sahel-and-ghosts-algerian-terrorism

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 9:54 AM

How the Steal went down… It looks like Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg provided a full service to the Democratic Party, from fact checkers and a partisan feed of “trending” news stories — to the emotional measurement and calibration of Facebook users — to censorship and spin but that’s not all. Zuckerberg and Chinese-American spouse Priscilla Chan made sure that swing states used the Dominion machines, providing funding if they could not afford them. They also prepared polling stations and counting centres for the dramatic increase in mail-in ballots, including the poll workers who would count them. A selection of headlines from before and after the election: MI Counties Were Forced To Buy Dominion Machines, Paid For By Zuckerberg – CD Media, Dec 5, 2020 “Michigan counties were forced to buy these high-cost machines (approximately $7,500 each) and sign grant agreements restricting county election officials from examining the equipment. A Zuckerberg-funded… Read more »

mae
mae
Dec 9, 2020 11:17 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

like cambridge analytica but the leftest version ? or is this china trying to take away our freedoms and democracy by rigging a rigged elections,.in 2020 election are real now OKEY
Money circus you are suppose to CIPHER the news, read as many reports check there authentication.
But you actually post CIA shill information as real content that aint journalism mate
that shilling for the establishment

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  mae

Not sure of your point. SCL Cambridge Analytica has worked for both main parties in the U.S. – for both Obama and Trump, and with Facebook. However the big story for which Integrity Initiative hack Carole Cadwallader won a Pulitzer was dismissed by the UK Information Commissioner who found “no evidence that it misused data in an attempt to influence the 2016 Brexit referendum or help any Russian intervention in political processes”. The election manipulation story has since moved on, of course. There’s also been evidence linking UK PM Boris Johnson and former adviser Dominic Cummings to SCL. Reportedly, Sophie Schmidt advised SCL head Alexander Nix to check out the work of US data intelligence agency Palantir Technologies. Schmidt, the daughter of Google chairman Eric Schmidt, used to work for SCL Elections (which was later renamed Cambridge Analytica). There is an octopus that connects UK and U.S. politicians to the… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 11:38 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Google played a different role, being the channel for almost all news about the election. It shifted at last 6 million views during the 2020 general election, according to research psychologist Dr. Robert Epstein. He deployed a team including 733 “field agents” located in Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. Their findings included: Google’s search results are “strongly biased in favor of liberals and Democrats,” which was not true of Bing and Yahoo. Conservative readers actually received slightly more liberal-biased news articles than liberals themselves. Vote reminder on Google’s homepage was being sent only to liberals, until Epstein’s group exposed it. Google “could easily have shifted at least 6 million votes in just one direction. The maximum, we haven’t even begun to estimate that yet because we have so much data to look at.” Epstein says many of his research colleagues are funded by Google and also share the company’s… Read more »

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Dec 9, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Don’t be evil! – That is OUR job!”

Oddly, that was my first thought when looking at the google search engine for the first time.

Now I am using the Duck for what it is worth. But what has become apparent, is the fact that those outlets that proclaim to be ‘alternative’ (and if only by a long shot), all link to google. I do have a screencap of an RT article accusing google of censorship – with directly under the article stating: “Find us on google news”.

I am still looking for an apt term for that. ‘Hypocrisy’ does not seem to suffice.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Dec 9, 2020 9:02 PM
Reply to  Nottheonly1

Try yandex

Junis
Junis
Dec 9, 2020 3:48 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Zuckerberg, Bezos, gates and musk are part of a group that is anti-socialist. The US has always been an anti-socialist country. Where is the evidence? The hostile actions of the US against Venezuela and Bolivia. Billionaires and corporate brands can only be left alone in an anti-socialist country. White racism is a huge advantage to the New World Order.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Dec 9, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  Junis

The US has always been an anti-socialist country.

After having lived there a third of my life, I came to the conclusion that:

The U.S. has always been an anti-people country. Anti non-rich people that is.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 4:54 PM
Reply to  Junis

We have to get beyond fretting if they are more socialist or fascist… by definition they are corporatist but they are borrowing from all previous totalitarian systems.

The clue is this: politicians are not creative people. However much they talk about the NEW World Order it will not be new but derivative.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 10, 2020 12:18 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Indeed, many billionaires dropped their morals ,religion and patriotism infavor of personal profits and Power, a dangerous addiction for the billions of others like us. World markets / fund flows are uncontrolled because these people want it so; no WTO authorities can be straight or strong enough.

A solution after US deep state has been reduced to benign size (Biden/Harris will do): on to more balance of power by splitting the world market playground into “equal” regional market blocks.
North America, South America, Africa, China +, India +, EU. Russia? Sunni ME? Shia ME?

Ort
Ort
Dec 9, 2020 9:04 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Rest assured that President-in-Waiting Harris has already ordered Zuckerberg’s Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 9:23 AM

‘The now departed defence secretary Mark Esper was not enthused by the change of heart’

When did offguardian become Fox news, Espner also disagreed with Trump on his deployment 82nd Airborne to DC, and his hand picked successor has recently brought US Special Forces under DoD.

Trump also pushed for more intervention by States in BLM which saw the deployment of military vehicles, albeit the legislation was enacted under Obama, as were the cells for immigrants, and offguardian runs a piece where is Hitler.

Trump may not have started any wars, unlike Clinton, Bush, Obama, but he stayed in Syria in his words for the oil, sold bns in arms to KSA who are illegally killing civilians in Yeman, he paid $10 bn to big pharma, and $2bn to Giliad for remisdevar after hyping hydroxychloroquine.

He is a lame duck Potus, Offguardian aka Foxnews

mae
mae
Dec 9, 2020 11:24 AM
Reply to  Capmint1

heads up Capmint1
that type of information you posted will get down votes
(also effect the donations stream )
play the game…. trump amazing – china evil leftist terrible the right or center or new right is anti Establishment and helping us.

all will be well.
Or you may be diagnosed with a mental disorder TDS

one last thing voting and elections is real.

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  mae

Trump even gets a pass on moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem which is the sacred cow of cifers.

It is what it is 🙂

Thom
Thom
Dec 9, 2020 9:17 AM

And what a year it’s been for Boris Johnson and the far-right here in the UK. It’s so lucky Corbyn wasn’t elected a year ago or we would have had economic collapse, Stalinist house arrests, nanny-state-gone-mad laws, Parliament bypassed and the country run by diktat from abroad. Oh wait…. No wonder the Tory press don’t have much to say about Johnson’s long list of.. ahem… achievements.

mae
mae
Dec 9, 2020 10:14 AM
Reply to  Thom

Thank god the socialist never got in.
imagine what they would have us doing.
Queuing rationing food. and items lining up in streets closing down business’s but leaving the job centers opening. wearing masks limiting travel etc etc etc

What is amazing.. all the so called experts online who endorsed Boris. and they are still experts

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 1:02 PM
Reply to  Thom

Dont worry, Capt Borat will save the day, the Brexit paradise with Rishis magic money tree, paying for jobs till April, and bunging BAE for aircraft less carriers, nukeless Tridents, and a car industry without parts. Reducing the armed forces by jolly, or at least not paying jonny foriegners pensions, it socialism but not as we know it

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 8:59 AM

Anyone who is interested in the history of peacekeeping should look at Shirbrig, a group of countries with a history of good peacekeeping, Irish, scandanivian, who provided logistical support and training to the AU, avoiding neo colonialism by giving a local solution for local problems. The AU peacekeepers would be more aware of cultural issues but lacked certain skills and equipment, funding. It was disbanded due to lack of funding but the US saw it as a threat to Africom. The illegal invasion of Libya under the figleaf of r2p wasnt for some made up reason that Guddaffi was planning a gold backed dinar, he didnt have enough gold, imho, it was, as reported in Guardian, that he offered Putin the the use of Benghazi as a Russian port, that and the threats he made to various bankers after losing billions during the credit crunch. Up to that point, we… Read more »

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Dec 9, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  Capmint1

There is a (hopefully still) great interview with Colonel Qaddafi, in which he lays out his plans for a gold-backed Pan-African currency. An African Dinar – used from Tripolis to Capetown. That alone was reason for the psychopaths to sodomize him with a bayonet. The whole democratic meschpoke must hang for this crime against humanity. Look was has become of the entire Magreb since his brutal murder. Clinton should be tied down over a sprouting bamboo patch for her disgusting laughs about the Nazi-style murder of the man who kept it all together. And gave his population universal healthcare, universal housing, universal education (including stipends to study wherever else in case the Libyian University could not offer the education) and a generous unconditional income.
The murder of Colonel Qaddafi is the crime of the century and has created massive refugee streams towards Europe.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 10, 2020 8:01 AM
Reply to  Nottheonly1

The monsters have applied their absolute prohibition against socialism/”populism” in many other countries, while imposing and supporting depraved despots. Also remember the small players punished because they step out of line (gain too much prominence or set the wrong example), e.g. Sweden (the refugee crisis) and Norway (the mass murder).

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 9, 2020 8:38 AM

There are many MSM euphemisms in the article.

We can trace many of the reports on US drone bombing in Pakistan and Yemen to government officials. According to such reports over November 2002 to August 2014, the “high-value targets” of the bombs died an average of 3 times. At least one person required 7 attempts. The bombs killed about 1,147 other unidentified persons: 28 for each intended one. – reprieve.org 2014

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 9:01 AM
Reply to  mgeo

In Trumps first year in office, he loosened the roe, and there was a significant increase in ‘collateral damage’ or murdering innocent civilians in lay terms. In fairness, it has reduced below Obama since then.

Dean Michael Jackson
Dean Michael Jackson
Dec 9, 2020 6:48 AM

The mainstream media and ‘false opposition’ ‘conservative’ media have conspired to not direct the public’s attention to Trump marrying into a Soviet Bloc Marxist family, whose father-in-law – Viktor Knavs – is a Yugoslav communist party member Quisling, and currently living in the White House under the protection of the Secret Service, otherwise Viktor and wife would be murdered by Yugoslav expatriates, which is why they had to flee Yugoslavia.  https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/792805/Melania-Trump-father-communist Instead of derailing Trump’s presidential bid by inundating the airwaves and cable lines with Trump marrying into a Soviet Bloc Marxist family, the mainstream media naturally supported their man by spiking the shocking news.  The Marxist mainstream media’s darling:  Trump giving the Marxist raised clenched fist salute during inaugural speech… ?w=560 (Why do you think Time magazine chose that particular moment to capture for its Inaugural front page picture?) …and in Poland… https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/in-sweeping-speech-trump-calls-out-russia-for-supporting-hostile-regimes The Marxist salute was invented in… Read more »

DM:
DM:
Dec 9, 2020 9:22 AM

“Dean Michael Jackson” has been posting this shite everywhere. The same shite. Verbatim. That is spamming. It’s not related to the article.

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 9:43 AM
Reply to  DM:

The fact that Melanie hates Trumps guts and in all likelihood will seek a divorce seems to have been missed by this Blogger

Philippe
Philippe
Dec 9, 2020 10:02 AM
Reply to  DM:

Give him a break.

He probably spent hours alone in his mother’s basement putting that together and he is very proud of it. Why wouldn’t he want to show it off? Everywhere. All of the time. Regardless of context. Or accuracy.

Ort
Ort
Dec 9, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  DM:

I know that there’s a distinction between “spamming” and “trolling”, but observation suggests that the vaunted Akismet spam filtering service is better at capturing false positives than removing blatant obnoxious spam.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 10, 2020 8:05 AM
Reply to  Ort

Perhaps that service costs extra. We also keep hearing that “we do not censor”.

Antoniji
Antoniji
Dec 9, 2020 3:55 PM

Yugoslavia wasn’t Soviet bloc.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Dec 9, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  Antoniji

It was a member of the ‘Non-Aligned Movement’, But how would someone fantasizing up stuff like that know?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Dec 9, 2020 6:43 AM

China Enters U.S. And it’s ain’t just Hunter Biden and kickbacks to The Big Guy. A suspected Chinese spy slept with at least 2 mayors and got close to Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell in a years-long intelligence campaign, report says — Axios, Dec 8, 20202. Fang Fang, also known as Christine Fang, embedded herself in Bay Area politics and slept with at least two Midwestern mayors as part of a years-long Chinese intelligence campaign, an Axios investigation found. She also fundraised for Rep. Eric Swalwell and placed an intern in his office. After Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell was the prime mover in the fake Russiagate pee pee hoax and impeachment. “We have people at the top of America’s core inner circle of influence and power… We have our old friends… for the past 30 years, 40 years, we have been utilizing the core power of the United States.” — Professor… Read more »

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Dec 9, 2020 8:51 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

So, what you are saying is… Sing-Sing4Fang-Fang in the jaws of US Justice? (Kathy New-man)
Sense the intonation.

Six times anything is entirely logical, if you can count and think simultaneously, laterally & unilaterally, because one in six people ARE CHINESE: LOGIC.

Are people blinded or mathmateically dumb… or both?
RhetoricMc.

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Dec 9, 2020 11:38 AM
Reply to  Tim Jenkins

Whomsoever disliked my entirely logical rational professional media analysis and humourous observations of mathematical fact, is linked to algorithms and machine learning with IP Alarms buzzing right now… 3-2-1 … good morning Virginia/Milo&co.vid77thBrigSongSingalongChoirDivision.thanx4your attention. The fact is that one in six people are chinese and you expect them not to take an interest in futures brighter than your fuk’dup mess, peacefully? How utterly absurd the constant transference & projection, strawman gaslighting gullibility aboard the Hindenberg. When the IMF SDR BDL CryptoCentralBankCurrency is announced finally, the Chinese and SwissBiS.Vat-i-can banksters will be the first to know. Especially following ALL transactions, inherent KNOWLEDGE, for the same elitist egotesticles of empire that fuk’d us financially and CULTurally in the first place. Ask Fatman Carstens who will regulate. ! In whose interests? WHO d’ Sovereign? You numbskull, Booboo you were warned About the apple and applecart’s worms. Come on Siri/milo. Copy/paste/mislead And avoid any… Read more »

antitermite
antitermite
Dec 9, 2020 5:30 AM

It’s positive news but only really meaningful if ALL the troops go, the bases are repatriated, and most importantly the VFA is cancelled
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visiting_forces_agreement

Visiting Forces Agreements basically being a get-out-of-jail card and license to kill, rape, steal etc.

Also the CIA and its proxies aren’t counted as US troops. Not sure about drones.

magumba
magumba
Dec 9, 2020 5:27 AM

I get the impression of wagons being circled

DM:
DM:
Dec 9, 2020 9:27 AM
Reply to  magumba

Darn Tootin’

Capmint1
Capmint1
Dec 9, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  DM:

Stumpy… Hand me the dynamite

Thom1111
Thom1111
Dec 9, 2020 4:53 AM

You lost me when you said the attacks of 9/11. It was an inside job.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Dec 9, 2020 5:05 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

Well they were still attacks.

My argument with the comment is that it says “on the United States”

Jeff Carmack
Jeff Carmack
Dec 9, 2020 4:51 AM

It is possible to live without war.

But the “peace” we may be offered from top down control is not peace.